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[bbfan1991]

Don't treat her like a woman:joker:.

[Novo]

Why not Eve Torres or Maryse or the Bella twins.. Why ****ing chyna :(

[Stu]

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[Stu]

I'd sooner have a Husky Harris sextape.

[michael21]

I watch Raw for free no sound on the 1st bit :bawling:

[Stu]

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I hope that was a heel turn for Christian this week on Smackdown. I'm into his stuff with Orton that's produced a brilliant match on PPV but the guy has no charisma whatsoever. I hate any face that needs to slap the mat to get the fans to clap as a general rule of thumb.

Remember how awesome he was as a heel in 2003-2005 period?

[Stu]

R Truth going insane again.

[King Gizzard]

Havn't watched for 2 weeks now :x

[Stu]

This opening segment is fantastic. Vince gave a shyaaaaat up! to Cole.

[michael21]

Weekly Ratings Wins so far (2011)
TNA iMPACT! – 12
WWE RAW – 2
WWE Smackdown – 2

more information here http://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4295374&postcount=86

[Stu]

That figure is misleading. You'be been told that before. It's based on first showings only. WWE rates much higher but those ratings are split across multiple showings. Who is going to watch Raw at 2 in the morning when you can catch it a million other times during the week?

TNA is on free TV too. You have to pay for Sky.

Tell me this ... if TNA is bigger in the UK why don't they run bigger venues and sell more tickets?

[michael21]

That figure is misleading. You'be been told that before. It's based on first showings only. WWE rates much higher but those ratings are split across multiple showings. Who is going to watch Raw at 2 in the morning when you can catch it a million other times during the week?

TNA is on free TV too. You have to pay for Sky.

Tell me this ... if TNA is bigger in the UK why don't they run bigger venues and sell more tickets?

:nono: you do not need to pay for sky as a forum member gave me a link were i can watch sky sports 1,2,3,4 and espn snd eurosports 1,2 for free TNA have been hoilding a lot of fan party over the last month or 2 and there have all been sold out why dont wwe do this if there so big as for the rating wwe won 2 week so it not what you said to night my TNA night on challanges your not aloud to watch it :nono: :joker:


I no who the mysterious Raw GM is, bang bang

[Stu]

:nono: you do not need to pay for sky as a forum member gave me a link were i can watch sky sports 1,2,3,4 and espn snd eurosports 1,2 for free TNA have been hoilding a lot of fan party over the last month or 2 and there have all been sold out why dont wwe do this if there so big as for the rating wwe won 2 week so it not what you said to night my TNA night on challanges your not aloud to watch it :nono: :joker:


I no who the mysterious Raw GM is, bang bang
Getting a link to watch Sky for free isin't the same as watching it on telly and does not contribute to the ratings you moron.

Who cares if they have sold out fan parties? I'm talking about big arena shows. Why don't TNA run any? Why don't they sell as many tickets as the WWE do? Because they are nowhere near as popular neither on a local scale nor on a global scale.

I'll say it again : WWE draw much larger ratings than TNA as a whole. All your challenged posts do is point out that the Tuesday night, free TV, prime time, first date showing of iMPACT draws more than the two in the morning, pay TV, first date showing of Raw.

It means nothing.

[bbfan1991]

R-Truth is a good heel:shocked::D.

Glad Christian turned on Orton, got a feeling Sheamus will turn face now and it'll be Sheamus/Orton vs Christian and Mark Henry soon?

[Stu]

http://www.drunkard.com/issues/10_06/10_06_andre_giant.html

Sweet article on Andre The Giant's drinking habits. The man was insane.

[Ramsay]

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greatest wrestling theme ever?:joker::joker:
reading his autobiography at the minute..great read if anyone gets the chance you should all check it out

[Ramsay]

Meltzer was texted during the show by a WWE employee stating that the reason Zack was not on the show is because "Vince hates the internet". Backstage, many, many people were upset that the person getting the most chants throughout the night was not brought out for a promo or even a quick appearance in his hometown who clearly wanted him there. Meltzer got some more information today on the thought process.

Evidently, it was indeed a rib/joke being played on Zack. Zack had spent his prior show talking up how he was in his hometown, how excited he was, how this could be his chance to finally shine and move up on the card. Zack was told a few days ago he would have a promo and a match on RAW and would turn face on RAW, even being able to acknowledge his youtube show and Internet Champion gimmick. This is why Zack was so excited the past few days.

The rib went so far as there was even a fake script and timeline alloted for Zack to come out and wrestle, besides Superstars, with his RAW promo and on air face turn. When the time came close for this to happen, Zack was informed plans changed and he would not be on air. This was literally during the broadcast. The entire rib was Vince's idea and was because Vince is not a fan of the "bashing" Zack does about WWE and sees it as "giving in" to someone who is visibly bashing the company with "dropping ball" clips, etc.

Meltzer comments that the real joke is on the fans, as the reaction to him not being on air is not pretty and as the rib is being revealed, even less people are happy. Multiple wrestlers have stated their public displeasure with the rib and John Cena was said to directly confront Vince over the situation and what he felt was a poor joke.

if this is true such bull**** especially since it was in his hometown
heres a video of his match on superstars crowd going crazy for him
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[Stu]

Full match including entrance and promo :

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Amazing. To hell with Vince and his daft little jokes. Give the people what they want.

[Stu]

Full match including entrance and promo :

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Amazing. To hell with Vince and his daft little jokes. Give the people what they want.

[King Gizzard]

I've got 49348438943gb of WWE on my computer cause I havn't watched it for nearly a month now..gonna have to have a WWE day on sunday before Capitol Punishment

[Iceman]

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John Cena (c) vs. R-Truth
Singles match for the WWE Championship

The Miz vs. Alex Riley
Singles match

Randy Orton (c) vs. Christian
Singles match for the World Heavyweight Championship

Wade Barrett (c) vs. Ezekiel Jackson
Singles match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship

Big Show vs. Alberto Del Rio
Singles match

CM Punk vs. Rey Mysterio
Singles Match

Kofi Kingston (c) vs. Dolph Ziggler
Singles Match for the WWE United States Championship

Havent watched that much lately so Im not expecting a great PPV.

Anyone watching it?

[Novo]

My Predictions

Truth Wins
Miz Wins
Orton Wins
Ezekiel Jackson Wins
Big Show Wins
Cm Punk Wins
Dolph Wins

[Novo]

Cena is suppose to be in pretty bad shape at the minute so it would make sense for him to drop the title to Truth

[Iceman]

My Predictions

Truth Wins
Miz Wins
Orton Wins
Ezekiel Jackson Wins
Big Show Wins
Cm Punk Wins
Dolph Wins

I think you're right with most of them, not sure if Miz will win, I think they Riley will by DQ to keep the feud going.

[King Gizzard]

http://twitter.com/Steve_Blackman

[Stu]

The Lethal Weapon invades Twitter!

The lads better twitter him back. I want to see what Rock says to him.

[King Gizzard]

Really liking Jinder Mahal of what I've seen so far

[Iceman]

What a legend!

[Iceman]

Not a chance im gonna be awake for this....

[Ramsay]

trek of that

[Iceman]

ya what?

[King Gizzard]

Can't believe they actually expect people to pay for this ****

Americans have to pay way more then us as well

Plus I still have over 6 hours to watch in catch up

[Iceman]

I really wanna watch just because if I dont I know im gonna be even more out of the loop than I am

[Novo]

It's streams all round for this one

[Stu]

I'm way past the point in my life of forking out cash for a B-Show but the card looks solid as. Forgettable show in storyline terms, but should turn out some decent matches.

And hey if R Truth happened to win. Moment of the century.

[Stu]

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Wow they really hate Chimel.

[Stu]

Are my the only one here?

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Bottom stream is money. Put it in 16:10.

Loving the set and the old school ropes. Makes a change from the usual generic production.

[Stu]

A complete and utter abortion of a PPV. Every match bar Rey/Punk was absoloute pants, a fake Obama was in no less than four segments and was continually passed off as being the real deal to the kids, and then R-Truth jobbed to a cup of water.

Seriously.

A kid throws water on R-Truth, stunning him, and Cena hits the FU.

A ****ing disgrace. Apparently Ryder ****ed off before the show started when he was told he wasn't going to be used.

The writing is on the wall. Honestly I'd rather watch TNA they just need to get out of that bloody soundstage.

I'm angry and confused.

[Iceman]

Glad I didnt watch now

[Novo]

Another PPV that felt like a typical Raw

The ending had Raw written all over it even the Orton and Christian match did actually

[Iceman]

Im tempted to watch RAW tonight its 3 hours isnt it?

[Stu]

Yeah so it will start at one. I'm watching it anyway. Glad I didn't give them any money last night.

There is still no sign of a big summer angle kicking in yet like we had with Nexus last year. It was actually pretty decent last year compared to this year.

[Iceman]

I reckon something to do with The Rock, he's due an appearance soon?

[Stu]

We can hope. Punk also said in an interview last night that he was going to do 'the most honest thing of his career' after the match. Nothing happened so I take it something will happen tonight. I imagine given the fact that he went over Rey clean that he has resigned and is getting pushed again.

[Iceman]

Hopefully, he hadnt won on ppv for a while (I think I read that somewhere? or maybe im mixing him up with someone)

[Novo]

The Sooner Jericho is back the better.. Orton is such a boring character now it's unreal the fans love him though Jericho as Champion on Smackdown is what is needed imagine at the money in the bank PPV someone is climbing up the ladder but then the lights go off and the code appears on the Titontron when the lights come back on Jericho is standing at the top of the ladder with the briefcase in hand.

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[Novo]

Hopefully, he hadnt won on ppv for a while (I think I read that somewhere? or maybe im mixing him up with someone)

Yeah that was punk think it lasted a whole year

[Iceman]

The Sooner Jericho is back the better.. Orton is such a boring character now it's unreal the fans love him though Jericho as Champion on Smackdown is what is needed imagine at the money in the bank PPV someone is climbing up the ladder but then the lights go off and the code appears on the Titontron when the lights come back on Jericho is standing at the top of the ladder with the briefcase in hand.

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That would be awesome, I read that he said he's coming back with a different gimmick though, he said he's sick of seeing people in suits on the mic.

[Novo]

That would be awesome, I read that he said he's coming back with a different gimmick though, he said he's sick of seeing people in suits on the mic.

Knowing the Writers they have him come out in a wheelchair foaming from the mouth with Santino pushing him after the result of Orton's punt last year

[Ramsay]

yeah im sick of orton too hes like supercena from years back

[Stu]

Jericho is way past the point of having to take the writers dick in his mouth. He would give SmackDown a kick up the arse alright but it's such a dead show. I actually prefer it to Raw in terms of wrestling and less Miz and King but he would be wasted there. I imagine he would be face though. They are sorely lacking in people the fans want to care for these days. Has he been growing his hair recently? I would mark like crazy. The suit era was great and he evolved his game but it's time to change again.

Just end the brand split already.

[Iceman]

I want the old Y2J back, the suit was a great reincarnation but the old one was just :lovedup:

[Ramsay]

i read somewhere that he doesnt wanna come back in a suit with long words and talking slowly cus everyone does so itd have to be something different
lionheart chris jericho :worship::lovedup:

[King Gizzard]

Steve_Blackman
Watching Wimbledon. Not my kind of thing but as I'm in London I'm giving it a go. Andy Murray is struggling
2 minutes ago

:joker::joker:

[King Gizzard]

Y2J with long hair and trousers please, looks like a dick with pants with the size of his torso in comparison with his bottom half

[King Gizzard]

Might as well move this into the Wrestling thread lol..

[Ramsay]

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[King Gizzard]

don't get me started on his quiff..what the hell is up with that?

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[bbfan1991]

Ha Ha:D.

Wonder what Punk's announcement will be tonight?

[Ramsay]

hopefully he ditches nexus hes much better on his own

[Novo]

Thought he already ditched the Nexus

[bbfan1991]

Yeah, he should go after the title now:).

[Novo]

Heel Jericho was the only good thing about WWE in 2008

[King Gizzard]

He's probably leaving soon so it's nothing big

[bbfan1991]

He's probably leaving soon so it's nothing big

Someone tweeted me saying he's going on a break?:(

[Ramsay]

hes extremely unhappy there so i wouldnt be surprised if he left
would not want him to go anywhere near TNA tho

[King Gizzard]

Doesn't surprise me they use him ****ing awfully

Should never have touched the nexus it was a load of crap

Should of kept him with the S.E.S but the big dude, Serena and Mercury sucked

[Stu]

Steve_Blackman
Watching Wimbledon. Not my kind of thing but as I'm in London I'm giving it a go. Andy Murray is struggling
2 minutes ago

:joker::joker:
Bless. His like a bloke finding his way around the world for the first time.

[Stu]

Mason Ryan getting more votes than Sin Cara and then squashing Bourne was the moment of the year.

[Stu]

Punk Vs. Cena at Money In The Bank. Punk's leaving either way he said. I'm calling a Punk title win with someone cashing in on him.

Punk to TNA?

What a abortion of a show again.

'20 minute time limit' and 'one fall to a finish' [e.g. a normal ****ing match] are two of the voting options for the main event

[King Gizzard]

it's become an effort to watch wwe live now :(

much prefer downloads or links where the commercials are cut

[Stu]

I feel like I need to watch a load of WCW from back in the day just to cleanse myself.

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They were just getting good again. Russo was fired and Easy E and Johnny Ace were doing good, reliable wrestling booking.

WHY HAVEN'T WWE OR TNA HIRED BUFF YET? They should snap him up based on his mourning in this clip alone. Buff The Stuff was magic. **** the haters.

[King Gizzard]

Match choice thing is a load of bollocks

They obviously know whats going to happen before they even put the vote public

[Stu]

Next week is Raw Roulette.

[King Gizzard]

So just a normal RAW then

[Stu]

Basically. Although I'm hoping for Ryan Dunn and Chris Benoit in a second chance saloon matchup.

[King Gizzard]

Special guest ref

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[Stu]

That's quality booking.

Bring back handcuffed to Slaugher matches.

[King Gizzard]

Save us Tajiri

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[Novo]

A-Ry didn't get a reaction at all on Raw :joker:

[Stu]

I'm not sure anyone did. The crowd was killed about quater of an hour into the thing.

[Novo]

Christian R-Truth and Miz should just form a new stable and take over WWE

[Stu]

Job Squad 2011.

[Stu]

I'm lazy and find myself interesting so I'm just going to do a copy and paste job from another forum :



On Capitol Punishment :

I said it last night in the chat and I will repeat it here : This was the single worst PPV I have ever stayed up for to watch live. Not the worst show ever mind you but certainly one of the dullest. Even the 2004 Bash had a bit of blood and a big glass box of concrete.

It was just an obscenely underwhelming stopgap that served as a complete indictment of WWE's negatives these days. Namely lacklustre crowds, a cast of characters that are not going to set the world alight anytime soon, predictable and/or random booking that isin't going to stir much emotion and just this general, content with mundanity style of sports entertainment. They were the number one company in the world before they rolled into Washington and nothing has changed. And why should it. Keep a dull pace, set up shop in the arena, put on an underwhelming budget show and collect the money.

The future doesn't look bright barring a burst bubble of **** hitting the fan[s] that serves as an impetus for them to get their arse in gear and radically alter something about the position they currently inhabit. The opening match was solid, Rey and Punk pulled out a decent, let's-not-go-crazy-though decent match for no apparent reason and everything else ranged from the forgettable to the abysmal. And that includes the commentary. It's like every headset woe of the last year or two was collected and concentrated into this one night.

I was delighted when I had to switch stream and found myself right in SAP zone. Hugo and Carlos were the life of the party.



On Raw Power To The People :

To the best of my knowledge the arm wrestling epic was the first segment in WWE history to produce a 'this is stupid!' chant from the crowd. I had trouble working it out at first because I suspect the commentators were told to keep running their mouths to try and disguise it. It slaughtered the audience in much the same way as Zeke and Wade did a night before.

I agree with the thread consensus of '**** everyone and everything but CM Punk'. I could watch him stalk the stalls picking on people and doing his David Koresh shtick for the full two hours each week. The WWE is safe and stagnant right now and I'm dissapointed and kind of surprised that as of yet a big summer angle hasn't come into play. Especially surprising on the back of what in hindsight was a bloody decent 2010 [that produced no fruits in 2011 with regards to the new talent but that's another story].

Regardless of the outcome Punk's got me hooked for the Money In The Bank show. Not only is the lead in great and not only will we be getting two packed ladder matches but it's in Chicago - WrestleMania 22's building to be exact. The crowd I imagine will be unglued.

Bring it on.



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[Ramsay]

glad i didnt stay up for the ppv so everywhere i look its getting bad reviews
wont even bother with raw..actually ill check out punks promo but thats it
save us y2j!!

[Stu]

I'm hearing this fantastic recurring idea on the internet about Punk taking the title then leaving leading to a big angle where he would buy tickets to sit in the crowd taunting Cena, show up in indie feds with the WWE title, sending postcards of himself on holidays to the commentators etc.

It will never happen but damn.

[Ramsay]

god that would be the most epic thing ever :laugh:

[King Gizzard]

Have him dancing outside the Impact Zone

[Ramsay]

would like to see him make an appearance at ROH
they love him there

[Stu]

This weeks Impact [well last weeks in America, this weeks on Challenge] is surprisingly excellent. In fact it's the best wrestling TV I've seen all year.

Austin Aries, Jimmy Rave and Kid Kash came back, Jeff and Kurt had a parking lot brawl [the kinds in a circle of cars with jobbers cheering them on], they've already started a competetive points style tournament to see who goes to the Bound For Glory main event, Sting went apeshit and tore up Hogan's office and Steiner went on a rant about how he has nothing to do this week but 'I'm training anyway because I don't play guitar. I don't sugar dounut. I beat people up. That's what I do'.

[Iceman]

Impact can be strong at times then they let themselves down at PPV's, then they can ahve great PPV's and **** TV...... I like rooting for them though, nice to see an underdog and all that jazz

[Stu]

As weak as it can be it seems to be a bit fresher since the rebrand. WWE technically have more people I'm interested in seeing but it's the same old and it doesn't even feel like a wrestling show anymore.

[Iceman]

No I agree with you on WWE merging them, get rid of the Shyte stars to the C shows they have and bring back heat,,,

[Novo]

WWE will get better starting at MITB imo i can see it being the PPV of the year

[Iceman]

ye Im intrigued to watch it now with the PUNK thing, its like Stu (I think) said, Punk will win and then someone will cash in..... my money is on Del Rio.

[michael21]

CM PUNK has announced he is leaving WWE.
Speculation has been rife for weeks that Punk's contract was expiring and that he was planning on taking a break from wrestling.

However, in recent weeks a series of wins and a high-profile push on TV had cast doubt over these claims.

But after winning an excellent triple-threat match on Raw this week to become the No1 contender for the WWE crown, the Straight Edge superstar grabbed the mic and told the world he will be leaving the company.

Punk revealed he will quit after the Money in the Bank PPV on July 17, where he will face John Cena for the WWE championship in Punk's hometown of Chicago.

The angle has echoes of one booked for Punk's departure from Ring of Honor, as did the following tweets he posted on his Twitter page shortly after Raw had aired.

He said: "I knew I was gone at the beginning of the year. I just woke up one day and I knew. That's the way I work a lot of the time.

"I think it's creepy too, but it's really helpful. I knew I'd be history by July.

"Come say goodbye on July 17th. I promise to go out with a bang. Trust me. XxX"

It is thought that Punk is following the line trodden by the likes of Chris Jericho and Big Show, who both stepped away from WWE for a time to recharge their batteries before returning.

There is already speculation that Punk could beat John Cena for the title on the PPV, only for the Money in the Bank winner to cash in immediately and win the belt from Punk before he goes.

Elsewhere on a largely uninspiring three hour "Power to the People" episode of Raw, the booking seemed to point towards a continuation of feuds between Cena and Truth, Miz and Alex Riley, and Randy Orton with Christian.

On a show where fans were allowed to vote for matches and stipulations, a number of surprising results occurred, such as Mason Ryan rather than Sin Cara being selected to face Evan Bourne, which WWE later explained was due to a glitch in the voting.

But the night belonged to Punk, for the news and for his tremendous match with Del Rio and Mysterio.

In contrary to the build up to Capitol Punishment, as good as R-Truth's push was, this revelation by Punk has raised our interest in Money in the Bank no end.



Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/wrestling/3652679/Superstar-CM-Punk-will-rock-WWE.html#ixzz1QBpz9T1m

[Novo]

Really :shocked:

[Stu]

Punk goes = me no watchy.

[Iceman]

If Punk goes then, surely Y2J has to come back ASAP

[bbfan1991]

If Punk goes then, surely Y2J has to come back ASAP

Don't think that will happen:(. Punk is going to be a big miss. That means we'll have everyone jobbing to Cena and Orton for the forseeable future.

[Iceman]

They nee someone to save them its gonna be a terrible summer.

[bbfan1991]

Christian and Orton work well together but we all know Vince and co don't see Captain Charisma as top draw so he'll be losing every match against Orton:sleep:.

[Iceman]

I expect The Rock to do something soon, he hasnt been on since his Birthday

[bbfan1991]

I expect The Rock to do something soon, he hasnt been on since his Birthday

True, he'll probably do something like being a special referee.

Or maybe they should get HBK back in a non wrestling role of course for when Taker and Triple H return.

They should start putting faith in people again like Del Rio and Barret who've slipped to mid card recently:(.

[Stu]

Triple H might have one more run left in him but I doubt him or 'Taker will ever wrestle for the company full time again. They're done.

As sick as I am of Orton too ... seriously can anyone remember any of his title wins bar the last one and the first one? ... Vince is right about Christian. He can't draw a dime and struggles to get much of a reaction.

[michael21]

They nee someone to save them its gonna be a terrible summer.

TNA TNA TNA :hugesmile::hugesmile::hugesmile:

[michael21]

This is what i think about CM Punk departure from WWE and WWE policies

WHEN CM Punk stood in the ring on Monday Raw and confirmed his impending departure from WWE, my heart sank.
Over the previous 24 hours he had demonstrated why many industry experts consider him to be best all-rounder in wrestling today.
A cracking match with Rey Mysterio which was the highlight of an ordinary Capitol Punishment pay per view event was followed on Monday by an excellent Triple Threat involving the same two men, plus Alberto Del Rio.
As well as consistently providing the best in-ring entertainment — his match with Randy Orton is still my favourite match from this year's Wrestlemania — Punk is totally at home on the microphone and frequently supplements his matches and feuds with excellent promos.
The fact that he is leaving is a huge body blow to WWE. Not just because they are losing a major talent, but because it reinforces the image that WWE is no longer a hugely desirable place to work.
Within the last eighteen months, Chris Jericho, Batista and MVP have voluntarily walked away from the world's No1 wrestling organisation.
Add to this Shawn Michaels' and Edge's retirements, as well as Triple H and Undertaker taking a more withdrawn role, and Vince McMahon's company have lost a huge amount of star power and talent.
They have added to their ranks Del Rio, Wade Barrett and Daniel Bryan in that time, while the likes of R-Truth, Christian and The Miz have stepped up, but it is hardly a fair trade.
The top tier of talent in WWE hasn't looked so thin in over a decade.
But the most worrying thing in all this is that so much seems to be WWE's doing.
The punishing schedule surely has to take the vast amount of the blame. Talents are asked to work relentlessly throughout the year.
Yes, they are well paid for doing so, but the mental and physical toll the constant touring and bumping has on the body and mind is huge.
At some point you have to feel that WWE will look at their roster and realise they have to do something to protect their future.
If bright lights like Punk — who is only 32 — have to take a breather, then something must be wrong.
WWE talents do not get mandatory time off — indeed it is often frowned upon should someone want to take some time to rest and recover.
But that is now really proving to be detrimental to the company. Mind you, this isn't a new phenomenon.
In 2004 Brock Lesnar turned his back on a lucrative contract and top position in WWE because he could no longer stand the schedule. He has gone on to a sterling career in MMA, becoming UFC champion and a major drawing card.
Lesnar has even said that he would consider a return to wrestling were it not for the schedule. So why have WWE not learned in the seven years since Lesnar, 33, walked away?

CM Punk will be fine. After a bad experience in TNA it is unlikely he will resurface there. But if he did he could command a decent wage.
There is also a chance that someone like Punk — who values the craft higher than the financial rewards it brings — could turn out occasionally for his old 'home team' of Ring of Honor.
In all likelihood he will take several months away from wrestling and rejoin WWE eventually — but that will not hurt his stock. If anything, WWE may well realise exactly what they have been missing.
A saving grace might be that he is being pushed in a prominent role at the moment.
When the rumours of his contract expiry surfaced, many jumped to the conclusion that he would be jobbed out before leaving.
But the opposite has happened, and Punk has won matches and earned a main event slot on his last show.
So enjoy Punk on WWE while you still can. He deserves your attention and the PPV bonus he will receive after July 17.
As far as WWE go, it remains to be seen when they will take a step back and assess their policies which keep leading to big stars walking.
Of that, I have substantially less faith.

[Iceman]

Michael if you're going to plagiarize someone elses work dont do it from The Sun, take this as an official warning for Plagiarism next time you'll get an infraction.

[Iceman]

Taker has 1 Mania left, to go out on 20 - 0 I reckon Trips has maybe 2 more good matches left.

[bbfan1991]

Taker has 1 Mania left, to go out on 20 - 0 I reckon Trips has maybe 2 more good matches left.

I reckon Takers last match will definetly be against Cena, hope he would bow out undefeated but I wouldn't put it past them going for a Cena win.

[Iceman]

I thought Cena too but now that its PG v Attitude im not so sure.

[bbfan1991]

Maybe Vince will decide to go for HHH;).

That will be funny if Cena vs Rock is a title match, Cena wants it but Rock as we all know isn't sticking around and if he won would need a stipulation to take it off him.

[Iceman]

Not really, I dont think Vine would mind letting The Rock retire with the belt.... would pave the way for the 1 title they've been talking about.

[bbfan1991]

Not really, I dont think Vine would mind letting The Rock retire with the belt.... would pave the way for the 1 title they've been talking about.

What unifying the two belts together?:D

[bbfan1991]

I hope CM Punk does return, could it be a plan by him this thing?;)

[Iceman]

What unifying the two belts together?:D

Not even but just dropping one of the belts (which will then be shockingly brought back 5 years later)

I dont think Punk is planning anything just a break, which he's entitled to, he's worked so hard the past few years

[bbfan1991]

Not even but just dropping one of the belts (which will then be shockingly brought back 5 years later)

I dont think Punk is planning anything just a break, which he's entitled to, he's worked so hard the past few years

Oh..

Indeed, Beth will keep him company though:D.

[bbfan1991]

Just followed Rosa Mendes, she seems lovely:blush:.

[Iceman]

I never see any of the wrestlers tweets, Im always asleep when they're active.

[bbfan1991]

I never see any of the wrestlers tweets, Im always asleep when they're active.

:joker: The in wrestling character ones are hilarious as expected.

[Stu]

It's going to be Triple H Vs. The Undertaker. They as much as confirmed it the Raw after WrestleMania.

There is no way Cena would ever, ever go over the Undertaker. What would it do for him? Taker will never job at WrestleMania anyway but in a freak paralell universe if he did have to it would be used to create a new star.

[bbfan1991]

It's going to be Triple H Vs. The Undertaker. They as much as confirmed it the Raw after WrestleMania.

There is no way Cena would ever, ever go over the Undertaker. What would it do for him? Taker will never job at WrestleMania anyway but in a freak paralell universe if he did have to it would be used to create a new star.

Didn't Kurt Angle once claim that Taker offered to give his streak up to him? Talking crap:joker:.

[Ramsay]

Didn't Kurt Angle once claim that Taker offered to give his streak up to him? Talking crap:joker:.

that was before the streak was important so id say it might of been true

[Stu]

Kurt Angle breaking what streak there was in 2000 or 2001 would have made perfect sense thinking about it.

[bbfan1991]

that was before the streak was important so id say it might of been true

Oh I see before they wrote the streak in as a storyline.

[Iceman]

Kurt Angle breaking what streak there was in 2000 or 2001 would have made perfect sense thinking about it.

They should have got Taz to break the streak :bored:

[bbfan1991]

Don't know if this has been posted but..

From Jim Ross Twitter:

Quote:
Spent 5 hrs 2day interviewing HBK & the Hitman 4 Oct DVD. No holds barred talk. Special day 4 me.

[Stu]

That DVD sounds exciting. It'd be great if we got them to do commentary on the iron man match.

And Taz was such a wasted opportunity. His Royal Rumble debut still gives me goosebumps.

[bbfan1991]

That DVD sounds exciting. It'd be great if we got them to do commentary on the iron man match.

And Taz was such a wasted opportunity. His Royal Rumble debut still gives me goosebumps.

It does doesn't it:).

Tazz should have been used more.

[Stu]

I hope there is a special "Who ****ed Sunny?" chapter.

Shawn : "I never."
Bret : "I never."
Sunny : "(awkward silence)"

[Iceman]

That DVD sounds exciting. It'd be great if we got them to do commentary on the iron man match.

And Taz was such a wasted opportunity. His Royal Rumble debut still gives me goosebumps.

Him and Angles match was brilliant I thought, its a shame he got so many injuries over the years :(

Yeah Reg that sounds good, would like an in depth interview

[Iceman]

Just thinking if WWE get 2 injuries on main eventers there is literally nobody to come along and step in.....

[Ramsay]

chavo guerrero released :(

[Iceman]

Ah no really?

[Ramsay]

yeah
off to TNA he goes lol

[Iceman]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/full/36223567.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1309014702&Signature=%2FBeb6g9eTLrgdPy6FPPCSicTN%2BI%3D

:worship:

[bbfan1991]

chavo guerrero released :(

Had a feeling it was that, he tweeted he had some ''exciting news'' yesterday so he must have been relieved about it after all that jobbing.

[bbfan1991]

As long as they don't get rid of Vickie:nono:, I find her entertaining:D.

[Ramsay]

shes not been doing much lately has she?

[Iceman]

Isn't her Daughter gonna debut soon? I'd imagine they'll do a family feud thing with her and her daughter not speaking then Vicky will help her win the title...

[Iceman]

Think Im gonna watch some WWF tonight from the early 2000's

[bbfan1991]

Isn't her Daughter gonna debut soon? I'd imagine they'll do a family feud thing with her and her daughter not speaking then Vicky will help her win the title...

How old is she?

[bbfan1991]

Chavo tweeted just saying he asked for his release as he was ''tired'' mmm internal matter hint obviously;).

[Iceman]

She's 21 reg

[bbfan1991]

She's 21 reg

Cheers:). Hopefully she's a diva who isn't there just for eye candy and can actually wrestle!

[Iceman]

Well as far as I can tell she's been training for a year so hopefully a few more months and then she can debut.

[bbfan1991]

Ouch a couple of Chavo's tweets just, wish him well though:).

[Iceman]

Yes, it's true. My release is the big news I was talking about. But let's get something straight. I asked for my release. I was just tired..Of not being used correctly. Just cuz u can make other ppl look good, doesn't mean they should just have u lose to them. The same thing...Happened to Eddie. After being champ, they still had him working mid card status. Being a Guerrero, we've been taught since diapers to get..The most out of ppl & matches. It's our gift, but also our curse. WWE has always used us to make other ppl look good. It all comes down to Being happy. I was not happy in WWE anymore. I had a smile on my face last night though when I got my release though! :) now it's time for me to start being a Guerrero again, and start kicking ass again, be able to tell stories in the ring like u know we can. :) win or lose I will never go back to the place WWE put me in. I will never go back to being under utilized and watching ppl who suck get bigger "pushes" Than me! Thank u to all of u who stuck by me & kept reminding me, I was better than that! :) stay tuned.. Big things coming!! Now I will Really be able to entertain u! :) like me or hate me, 1 thing I have always tried to do is entertain u and give u fans your $ worth. Even if My hands were tied most of the time. I love u all and can't wait for the future!! So happy. :)

Fair Play to Chavo.

[Novo]

Did he expect a title push or something.. sounds like it from that

[Iceman]

Yeah I doubt he expected WWE/WHC push, maybe IC title, I wouldnt want him near the main event, he's the definition of Mid card, thats what I always liked about him.

[Stu]

His a charisma vaccum. I wouldn't push him either. Doesn't matter what his second name is.

[Iceman]

Yeah i agree with that actually but he was perfect for a mid carder, he would have been a great European Champ.

[bbfan1991]

Yeah i agree with that actually but he was perfect for a mid carder, he would have been a great European Champ.

I miss that title:(. Remember Regal's epic reign.

[Ramsay]

hardcore and european :lovedup:

[bbfan1991]

hardcore and european :lovedup:

All the Hardcore fights:hugesmile:.

Raven, Steve Blackman, Hardcore Holly, Crash etc.

[michael21]

Isn't her Daughter gonna debut soon? I'd imagine they'll do a family feud thing with her and her daughter not speaking then Vicky will help her win the title...

Do you no what would be better them that anything

[Boothy]

hardcore and european :lovedup:

I remember when I was about 11/12 searching 'hardcore' into YouTube/Google to try and find some hardcore matches. Not all the results were to do with wrestling :joker:

[Iceman]

Do you no what would be better them that anything

do you know what dont me get what saying

[Iceman]

Anyway Raw Roulette makes a return tonight, but its the PG Era so its gonna be cack, looking forward to what Punk does...

[Stu]

Raw Roulette's nothing without The Bisch and his Vegas showgirls.

[Iceman]

HLA :wink:

[Stu]

rg9lgAl0sTA

[Iceman]

We've only got about 800 posts left in this thread :( Im refusing to let it be deleted though.

[Ramsay]

will be a damn shame when its closed :bawling:

[Stu]

CM Punk goes and TiBB's longest running active thread closes it's doors :(.

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[Iceman]

We'll just have to make sure that the next one is better

[Stu]

All the regular posters should be in the first post of the new thread with a picture of a wrestler or something. Mainly just to satisfy my desire to become Kevin Nash.

And it'll need a new name :amazed:.

[Iceman]

I'm hoping I get to Name it, can edit it then on a daily basis with the main news. LOL at the Kevin Nash thing, I'd like to be the Rock.

[bbfan1991]

Y2J!!!:hugesmile:

[Iceman]

Y2J!!!:hugesmile:

:conf:

[bbfan1991]

:conf:

I would post a picture of him when the next thread comes;).

[Stu]

Andy might have your head on a plate.

[bbfan1991]

Andy might have your head on a plate.

I'll just post a picture of Maryse instead then to keep him quiet;).

[Iceman]

haha, wonder when the time'll come for a new one?

[bbfan1991]

Actually i'm thinking Trish Stratus might be a better option:D.

[Stu]

I love this picture sf much.

http://www.percypringle.com/Gallery-Pictures/Room-1/Photos/WWFonTour.gif

Paul Bearer looks like he'd be a great craic langered. Bottle of JD on the table. Henry O. Godwin doing the BSK sign even when holding beer bottles and Taker holding court up the top like the godfather.

[Iceman]

Taker and Nash at the head of the table.... did you see the pic Y2J tweeted yesterday?

[Iceman]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/329205292.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=AKIAJF3XCCKACR3QDMOA&Expires=1309209074&Signature=LUw7iwjqcndsa5royUSBt%2FpyfK0%3D

great picture.

[Stu]

Is that the one he tweeted? Great pic. That was after the 2005 Summerslam against Cena.

[Stu]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v68/RustyBrooks/RAREwwfbar.jpg

Good man Viscera.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v353/baronvonmavis/1235949580938.jpg
And guess who that is.

[Iceman]

yeah it was. The only thing I can Imagine when looking at this is the Goldberg promo 'Who's Next?'

[Ramsay]

Punk!

[Iceman]

:amazed: Geek alert

[Stu]

http://i.imgur.com/kE9Kj.jpg

Gilberg's wrestling academy. Good work if you can find it.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs112.snc3/15943_1276140506938_1332729602_30789745_4039455_n. jpg

What a hero.

http://www.kevinnash.net/images2004/fanclubdinner/images1/pic017.jpg

With some old people.

[Iceman]

the woman behind him looks hungry, someone give her a tub of lard

[Stu]

I believe it is an annual dinner meeting he has with a particularly devoted, middle aged women set of his fan group.

They probably just fancy the arse off big kev. I can't imagine any of them sitting down to watch him job Goldberg out at Starrcade.

[Iceman]

LOL Im about to go look for the beginnings of the nWo on youtube, then watch as much of them as I can

[Iceman]

http://eoinl.tumblr.com/

This is gonna be where my wrestling thoughts in full shall be, first one is up, its kind of all over the place but hopefully will get better as i keep going on.

Also Raw starts at 1 tonight again I think.

[Stu]

I really need to start blogging about wrestling. I reckon I could write columns and stuff about it quite comftorably[/pretentious].

[Stu]

DDP'S on Raw tonight to promote the Nitro DVD!

BANG!

[Stu]

DDP'S at Raw tonight to promote the Nitro DVD!

BANG!

[Ramsay]

DDP'S at Raw tonight to promote the Nitro DVD!

BANG!

then its decided..this will be the raw of the year

[Stu]

He better be on the ****ing show. I can't see why else he would be there.

His uploading pics of the arena on Twitter. Looks like we have a cage match tonight.

[Stu]

Off we go with HBK. Booker T is the wheel spinner.

[Stu]

Crowd struggles to get a HBK chant going. That's always a good sign, isin't it. His plugging his new hunting show. Why does a rich Christian need to hunt and kill animals?

Punk is here :worship:.

[King Gizzard]

My twitters gone mad with people going on about Punk and his promo, apparently dissed WWE to the max..people think it was legit

[BB4LIFE_SD]

I doubt it but still I have to give Punk credit for saying what I'm sure everyone's (myself included) been thinking.

[King Gizzard]

Just seen it...obviously a work or else they would of cut him off much quicker than 6+ minutes

[Stu]

-9wnH66KxNo

The best WWE promo since Paul Heyman's 2001 worked shoot. Absoloutely amazing and a somewhat brave move for them to let him do. That 60,000 Over The Limit buyrating must have really scared the **** out of them.

The bits about John Laurenitis and the McMahons was shocking and I'm astounded they let him go ahead with it. Least of all because knowing Punk he means every word of it.

[Ramsay]

loved the colt cabana shout out hah

[Boothy]

http://www.wwe.com/shows/raw/2011-06-27/mcmahon-suspends-punk

Still think it was scripted. He'll be back next week breaking his 'suspension'.

[Stu]

Of course it was scripted. You would want to be a bit soft in the head to believe otherwise.

The following weeks show was taped straight after Raw went off the air because the talent will be in Australia next week :

Credit: Bill Peterson and Pwinsider.com

Bill Peterson is in Las Vegas at the taping for the July 4th episode of Raw that is being taped tonight.

At the start of the show they had a graphic announcing that Rey Mysterio, Alberto Del Rio, and R Truth will be in a Number One Contender Match for the WWE Title at Money In the Bank. They also announced Alex Riley versus Miz.

John Cena comes out for a promo and he mentions that CM Punk has been stripped of his right to challenge John Cena for the WWE Championship in Chicago. He mentions that is why they are going to do the Triple Threat Match to determine a new number one contender. He also says that they are going to treat things as if CM Punk never existed in WWE.

Cena says that he is not happy with the decision and he believes that Punk was saying what he believes in, but he does not agree with Punk. He does agree with Punk's right to say what he did. Cena says that he wants answers from Vince McMahon and he wants those answers tonight.

John Cena says that he wants to face CM Punk at Money in the Bank

Match Number One: Kelly Kelly and Eve Torres defeat the Bellas when Kelly pinned one of the Bellas.

R Truth is interviewed in the back by Scott Stanford and Truth says that he already beat John Cena so he shouldn't have to win a Triple Threat Match tonight to face Cena at Money in the Bank. Truth talks about how there is a conspiracy.

Truth bumps into Alberto Del Rio and Del Rio tells Truth that it is his destiny.

Match Number Two: WWE Tag Team Champions Michael McGillicutty and David Otunga defeated Vladimir Kozlov and Santino Marella when McGillicutty pinned Santino after a neck breaker.

After the match, while everyone was still in the ring, Zack Ryder came out onto the stage and said ‘Woo woo woo you know it' and left.

Miz was interviewed by Scott Stanford in the back and Miz says that he should be in the number one contender's match tonight. Miz says that he isn't in that match because of Alex Riley. Miz says that he brought Riley on Raw and he is going to take him out tonight.

Match Number Three: Jack Swagger over Sergeant Slaughter with the Swagger Bomb. After the match, Swagger puts Slaughter in the ankle lock until Evan Bourne comes to the ring to make the save.

Slaughter leads the crowd in the Pledge of Allegiance.

Match Number Four: Alberto Del Rio defeats Rey Mysterio and R Truth with a cross arm breaker on Mysterio to become the new number one contender for the WWE Championship.

Vickie Guerrero and Dolph Ziggler are having a Fourth of July party in the ring since he is the United States Champion. Vickie wants everyone to sing Happy Birthday to Dolph but they don't so Vickie sings to Dolph.

Dolph says that he is the best superstar and he is in his prime. Dolph says that as long as he is the United States Champion, it is the only title that matters.

Kofi Kingston comes out to the ring and he says that without Vickie in his corner, Dolph cannot beat him. Dolph tells Kofi that he is at a higher level than Kofi and that Kofi should leave his party. Vickie gets pushed into the birthday cake and then Kofi and Dolph brawl.

Match Number Five: Alex Riley beats Miz with a backslide.

After the match, Miz destroyed Riley, breaking the barricade and then he dropped the ring steps on Riley.

Vince McMahon comes out and he says that CM Punk deserved his suspension and he talks about how Punk wanted too much money for his new contract. Vince says that he is standing by his decision to suspend Punk.

John Cena comes out and he says that Vince loves freedom of speech and he still wants to face CM Punk. Cena says that if Vince doesn't feel like fighting then he should hang it up.

Vince says that he really suspended Punk because he doesn't want Punk to leave with the title. Cena made fun of Vince being afraid to let Punk wrestle. Cena talks about the match and then Vince tells Cena not to piss him off and not to be like Hogan.

Cena tells Vince to give the people what they want. Vince says that he doesn't give a damn what the people want. Cena gives Vince a speech and then gives Vince the WWE Championship and walks out.

Vince tells Cena to wait and he meets him on the ramp. Vince says that CM Punk is reinstated and Cena has his match at Money in the Bank with CM Punk. Vince tells Cena that if Punk walks out of Chicago with the title then John Cena is fired.

This was the end of the taping.

There was no mention about Del Rio's title shot after the closing segment.

And here it is.

[bbfan1991]

Clearly scripted but having catched up on RAW awesome promo and the plan worked as everyone is talking about it. CM Punk is too good to lose:hugesmile:.

Realised that maybe the writing is effecting the WWE more than the PG thing.

[King Gizzard]

Immediatley saying he's suspendedd etc etc just cheapened it I think. They should of made him go AWOL till MITB

[bbfan1991]

Yeah the spoilers made it too obvious. Oh and it's a party So that means Vicki gets her face shoved into the cake again:joker:.

[Iceman]

Just spent the best part of 2 hours explaining to my Nephews what Works, kayfabe, an Marks were oh and why CM Punk is the best in WWE at the minute :laugh:

[King Gizzard]

I wouldn't know if it wasnt for you lot an wrestling forum.. (always knew it was scripted though)

[michael21]

This is good news http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3665789/Hulk-Hogan-ex-in-terror-at-rages.html

:xyxwave: Hogan

[Iceman]

Closing this and merged a few more threads with it. RIP to a legendary thread that has a huge place on TiBB.

9will close ina few if anyone last any last respects to pay.

[King Gizzard]

:worship: It will probably be merged back one day

[Ramsay]

:bawling:

[King Gizzard]

I could of sworn Sunny made this not Farhad lol

[Iceman]

I could of sworn Sunny made this not Farhad lol

I just ****ing did it again. oh well little bit more history :laugh2:

[bbfan1991]

Bye to this thread:p.

[Benjamin]

I just ****ing did it again. oh well little bit more history :laugh2:

LOL, what is with you and merging the wrong threads. :laugh:

[King Gizzard]

Is there anyway to undo it?

But then I just added loads more threads to this..

[Iceman]

LOL, what is with you and merging the wrong threads. :laugh:

I dunno I'm failing so much at it tonight, the Eminem thread is gone :bawling: help me get it back PLEASE :bawling:

[Benjamin]

Right come to towers and let me know what you want doing. :)

[Iceman]

Right come to towers and let me know what you want doing. :)

:evilgrin: