Game of Thrones Thread

[Daniel.]

Ed Sheeran being in it is a mess

[Shaun]

yeah that was ****ing vile as well

Who was the Hound burying btw?

[Smithy]

The people that he stole food from in S4 iirc

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i'm annoyed that i didn't get to see ed sheeran have his eyes gouged out

[Shaun]

wait until I finally get Glastonbury tickets and he's then announced as the Saturday headliner hun, he won't know what's hit him x

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

aghffhfgg :skull:

[Niamh.]

That was so good :flutter: except Ed Sheerans part.

Gav just asked me if Dany was a Targaryen :facepalm:

[Natalie.]

So good, glad it's back
Those Samwell scenes, not needed :omgno:

[Smithy]

That was so good :flutter: except Ed Sheerans part.

Gav just asked me if Dany was a Targaryen :facepalm:

:joker::joker::joker:

[Niamh.]

Everything that comes before but is bull****, so true Ned, so true :flutter:

[Smithy]

Ed sheeran deleted his twitter bc of the backlash :joker:

[Niamh.]

Ed sheeran deleted his twitter bc of the backlash :joker:

Oh no really? :laugh: It was really awful though, kind of killed the mood of the show for a few minutes I thought

[Niamh.]

:joker::joker::joker:

Seriously like, when she landed at Dragonstone I was explaining how Dragonstone used to be the Targaryens home and he said "and is she a Targaryen?" I was like, are you actually serious?

[user104658]

The people that he stole food from in S4 iirc
Not food I don't think, he stole their life savings of silver, under the logic that they would starve anyway when winter came so wouldn't be needing it and he might as well have it. I think he possibly even told them that they couldn't survive there and suggested they should leave but the dad insisted they would stay there.

I don't think it's that it was his fault they died, that's not what he's feeling bad / guilty about... It's more just that he now feels bad that he was right. He didn't really care before that they were likely to die. But now feels like it's all wrong.

When they first stayed there he was sort of mid-way through his redemption arc, at this point he's more or less a "full good" character.

[arista]

Ed sheeran deleted his twitter bc of the backlash :joker:


Sure he is young
Alot to learn

[Smithy]

Oh no really? :laugh: It was really awful though, kind of killed the mood of the show for a few minutes I thought
Good riddance too him :hee:
Seriously like, when she landed at Dragonstone I was explaining how Dragonstone used to be the Targaryens home and he said "and is she a Targaryen?" I was like, are you actually serious?

:laugh2:

Cersei literally said in the episode Daenerys Targaryen has sailed... how did he miss it for 6 seasons? :joker:

I read quite an interesting theory the other day about Cersei's valonqar...

what if arya kills Jamie, steals his face and that's how she gets close to/kills her :o

[Niamh.]

Good riddance too him :hee:


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Cersei literally said in the episode Daenerys Targaryen has sailed... how did he miss it for 6 seasons? :joker:

He's really bad with names :laugh: I'm really bad with faces though so we make a good team :hee:



I read quite an interesting theory the other day about Cersei's valonqar...

what if arya kills Jamie, steals his face and that's how she gets close to/kills her :o

ohhhhhhhh that's a really great theory especially because of what she said in the Ed scene hhmmmm

I'd rather the real Jamie killed her though, complete his redemption

[Locke.]

The Jaime/Cersei relationship is incredibly annoying in the show. He's been sick to death of her in the books since about the third one yet he's still simping about in Season 7, terrible.

[Shaun]

Ed sheeran deleted his twitter bc of the backlash :joker:

I'm sure I read somewhere that he deleted that 1-2 weeks ago because of something else, tbf

[Brother Leon]

Ed with greatest performance in TV history. The Emmy and Golden Globe is on the way.

[Niamh.]

Who were the other guys in that scene, were they to do with Ed as well or what?

[King Gizzard]

Lannister soldiers that were at the Freys wasn't it

[Niamh.]

Oh right, they were actual cast members then

[King Gizzard]

One of them was Thomas Turgoose who was the main guy in this is england

[Smithy]

I'm sure I read somewhere that he deleted that 1-2 weeks ago because of something else, tbf

no cause he was posting about being on GoT before it aired

[DouglasS]

After looking at Episode 2 trailer I have a theory of what could happen in the episode
It looks like Elliara Sand and Yara Greyjoy kiss. The last time Elliera sand kissed someone was Marcella who she poisoned through the kiss, perhaps she is going to kill Yara Greyjoy also through the same way. The Sands seem to kill through poision.

[Smithy]

After looking at Episode 2 trailer I have a theory of what could happen in the episode
It looks like Elliara Sand and Yara Greyjoy kiss. The last time Elliera sand kissed someone was Marcella who she poisoned through the kiss, perhaps she is going to kill Yara Greyjoy also through the same way. The Sands seem to kill through poision.

But if they're all allies of dany why would she do that

[DouglasS]

But if they're all allies of dany why would she do that

Idk. Theres so many twists and turns they might be working for someone else secretly

[Nicky91]

Dany one liner shall we begin wow :D

[Brother Leon]

After looking at Episode 2 trailer I have a theory of what could happen in the episode
It looks like Elliara Sand and Yara Greyjoy kiss. The last time Elliera sand kissed someone was Marcella who she poisoned through the kiss, perhaps she is going to kill Yara Greyjoy also through the same way. The Sands seem to kill through poision.

I think Euron will probably capture the Sand girls and Theon/Yara. That will probably be his "gift" to our beloved Queen.

[King Gizzard]

The four things I've read, two of which are confirmed and two I'm hoping aren't true are

jon meeting dany
Jon meeting Cersei
Olenna killing herself after being confronted by Jamie
The walkers killing viserion and him being resurrected by the night king

i just remembered where these were from they also said Arya would take Walder's face/poison everyone so I'm guessing they're true

[Smithy]

i just remembered where these were from they also said Arya would take Walder's face/poison everyone so I'm guessing they're true

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[King Gizzard]

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[Niamh.]

Lyanna to end up on the Iron throne

[user104658]

Lyanna to end up on the Iron throneShe doesn't want it she's loyal to The North :fist:

[King Gizzard]

Always amazed at how stupid and way off the theories from the guests are on Thronecast as if they're told to purposely throw viewers off the scent

[Brother Leon]

Here for good ol' Samwell Tarly single handedly saving Westeros from the White Walkers.

[King Gizzard]

"Easter egg"? about what Gilly was reading..

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Was only on screen for a split second as well Lol

[Shaun]

I can't even begin to attempt to read that

[King Gizzard]

Basically it cures grayscale and would make sense with Shireen living there

[Shaun]

doesn't even say 'grayscale' fam :nono:

[King Gizzard]

Illnesses

And with Sam and Jorah in the same place you aren't telling me it's not going to be about Grayscale Lol

[DouglasS]

Especially with Stannis living in the one place that is on top of dragonglass [which he knew also], with Shireen being the only survivor in history to survive grey scale. I think the book is on to something.

[Brother Leon]

Good ol' Samwell about to save everyone's favourite Simp too. The man is on a tear.

[Shaun]

I'm afraid it's all a double bluff and dragonglass just cures herpes, lads

[King Gizzard]

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[Locke.]

I can't remember if the valonqar thing was mentioned in the show as part of Cersei's prophecy so I'll spoiler this just in case, but it's more speculation than a spoiler

Cersei is standing on an area of the map called The Neck and Jaime is standing on an area called The Fingers. Hopefully this happens this season

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[Brother Leon]

I hope Arya isn't the one that eventually kills Cersei. I think it may be pushing it if one person single handedly wipes out their whole kill list, faceless God or no faceless God. It's Game of Thrones after all. It can only be Jaime after Cersei does something crazy and drastic.

[Niamh.]

Yeah I agree Leon. It would be more powerful to have the only person left to care about Cersei turn on her

[Nicky91]

yeah but i can also see Jaime having a little romance with Brienne, or at least i hope so

[Locke.]

Only 12 episodes left until it's all over I doubt Jaime and Brienne will ever see each other again

[Niamh.]

Brienne & Tormund ftw tbh

[Nicky91]

a bit OT perhaps, but i still love the telltale game of thrones, i'd wish they make another season of that :)

[Locke.]

Just saw the promo pics they released for episode 2

Jon and Davos travelling somewhere :think: Castle Black to see Bran maybe?

[King Gizzard]

I think he'll get tired of Cersei and head up and help fight the walkers and give Brianne the D, as much as I like Tormund she's not interested

[Natalie.]

Yeah I think Jaime and Brienne with have something

[Brother Leon]

a bit OT perhaps, but i still love the telltale game of thrones, i'd wish they make another season of that :)

They kinda have to due to the ending really. It's underwhelming otherwise.

[Brother Leon]

Just saw the promo pics they released for episode 2

Jon and Davos travelling somewhere :think: Castle Black to see Bran maybe?

They probably get Sam's Raven and go to Dragonstone. Will provide the Jon/Dany meeting cliffhanger all the shippers want too I suppose.

[user104658]

I hope Arya isn't the one that eventually kills Cersei. I think it may be pushing it if one person single handedly wipes out their whole kill list, faceless God or no faceless God. It's Game of Thrones after all. It can only be Jaime after Cersei does something crazy and drastic.

There is of course the third option of it being both (if they want to have Arya complete her list);

Jaime knows that Arya is going to kill Cersei and has an opportunity to stop her, perhaps even catches her... but then realises that Cersei has to die, so he then lets Arya kill her. Maybe even gets Arya close enough to do it.

[Locke.]

They probably get Sam's Raven and go to Dragonstone. Will provide the Jon/Dany meeting cliffhanger all the shippers want too I suppose.

Hopefully not, don't want Jon getting wrapped up in Dany trying to win the throne. Really far away as well, if we were back in season 1 it would have taken about 4 episodes to make that journey but Littlefinger gets from one end of the map to the other in the space of 1 episode these days.

[Novo]

Victarian actually mentions The Dragonhorn being " a Gift " in Dance with Dragons but If it is the Dragonbinder that is the gift that Euron gives Cersai then its a double edged sword really since it is said that whoever uses it dies - says in Valaryian on it " no mortal man should sound me and live, blood for fire, fire for blood

Victarion is looking pretty likely to use it in TWOW though and since he's not a part of the show I can't see who else would use it and sacrifice themselves other then Jaimie in a heroic attempt to keep Cersei on the thrown because he is blindly in love with her beyond reasoning


On another note absolutely heartbreaking stuff seeing Daenerys take over Dragonstone (not like Stannis wanted it anyway it was pretty much an insult after the siege of storms end) but she had to rip the fiery heart flag down didn't she, terrible woman

[Novo]

I think Jaime will survive for a while yet and be the main bad guy. Think Tywin, Cersei, and hopefully Josh will die though.

I watched some interview show on Sky Atlantic the other week which had most of the cast members on, and the actor that played Jaime said him and Ned were the two most feared swordsmen in the seven kingdoms, so it'll be interesting if they're both gone by season 2.

Josh :joker:

[DouglasS]

Victarian actually mentions The Dragonhorn being " a Gift " in Dance with Dragons but If it is the Dragonbinder that is the gift that Euron gives Cersai then its a double edged sword really since it is said that whoever uses it dies - says in Valaryian on it " no mortal man should sound me and live, blood for fire, fire for blood

Victarion is looking pretty likely to use it in TWOW though and since he's not a part of the show I can't see who else would use it and sacrifice themselves other then Jaimie in a heroic attempt to keep Cersei on the thrown because he is blindly in love with her beyond reasoning


On another note absolutely heartbreaking stuff seeing Daenerys take over Dragonstone (not like Stannis wanted it anyway it was pretty much an insult after the siege of storms end) but she had to rip the fiery heart flag down didn't she, terrible woman


I think the Mountain will end up using the horn for Cersei. I feel like it was foreshadowed in the episode also, as soon as Euron walked up to Cersei the Mountain immeditely stepped in her place like a lapdog. The mountain is also undead and so may not be affected by it.

I do however think Jamie will kill Cersei, whether it be end of this season or in the next season.

[Novo]

Wonder if we will be seeing Salladhor anytime soon, probably still in Braavos in that hot tub waiting for Davos to pay of the rest of His debts from the blackwater disaster

[Natalie.]

Really loved The Hound in this ep, such a great character

[Novo]

I think the Mountain will end up using the horn for Cersei. I feel like it was foreshadowed in the episode also, as soon as Euron walked up to Cersei the Mountain immeditely stepped in her place like a lapdog. The mountain is also undead and so may not be affected by it.

I do however think Jamie will kill Cersei, whether it be end of this season or in the next season.



don't think the mountain can even speak or open his mouth anymore never mind blow a dragon horn

[Novo]

Really loved The Hound in this ep, such a great character

Been good seeing him with Beric and Thoros, its a pretty great background story really since in Season 2 and 3 the Hound was really sceptical of all the religious ideology the BWB followed and the Hound killing Beric and being resurected was pretty much the start of when The Hound believed their was more to it + the flames visions this season, now its looking like he can't deny they aren't Charlatans anymore

[DouglasS]

The Hound and Arya were so great together and bought out the best in each others character. I think both learnt from one another in different ways. I hope they reunite at some point.

[Locke.]

Davos and Tormund are the new #1 duo

[Shaun]

What was Euron in (TV/filmwise) before, because he looks very familiar :think:

[Novo]

What was Euron in (TV/filmwise) before, because he looks very familiar :think:

Been In a few episode of the Borgas and The Killing I think, read some article before that loads of people have been thinking it is Bam Margera from Jackass ffs

[Shaun]

Hmm I know I'm a (Danish) Killing fanatic but he was only in one episode of that so idk why I'd remember that so strongly.

Oh he was in Lucy with Scarlett Johansson.

[Shaun]

:joker: he co-hosted Eurovision. That's why I ****ing know his face. Wtf.

[King Gizzard]

Slightly disturbed that all I find when I search The Hound on Tumblr is fanfic with Sansa

[Novo]

I'm just reading Dance with Dragons again, refreshing my memory and Tyrion's story is so much more better written then it has been in the show, the Aegon/Griff thing was brilliant imo I kind of understand why they left it out though it would be opening up a while new plotline which would have stretched the show

[Scarlett.]

Glad Euron seems to have more character to him this series, he seemed a bit crap at first lol

[Locke.]

Slightly disturbed that all I find when I search The Hound on Tumblr is fanfic with Sansa

There was a lot of sexual tension between them in the books

[user104658]

Glad Euron seems to have more character to him this series, he seemed a bit crap at first lolI thought that too. There was a lot of Criticism after his initial appearance least season and I think they've clearly taken it on board and focused on the character. I actually buy him as a villain now... Last season he fell totally flat.

[Smithy]

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gah preview of eps 2&3

[storybrooke]

I want to know what Euron is bringing for Cersei

[Niamh.]

I want to know what Euron is bringing for CerseiYou would know if you read the books [emoji14]

[King Gizzard]

I don't think it's that tbh Niamh, might be another Lady Stoneheart situation, makes more sense and bigger for the show if it's another character

[Niamh.]

I don't think it's that tbh Niamh, might be another Lady Stoneheart situation, makes more sense and bigger for the show if it's another characterI think it is because

that's the only way they"'ll have some chance against the dragons

[Novo]

Since Giant Krakens are confirmed to exist in the books I hope they somehow bring them into the show, Daenerys fleet is huge and a lot of the fleet be needless once she departs Dragonstone, blow the whole CGI budget on a Kraken sinking the fleet and drowning a Dragon I say

[Niamh.]

Oh actually that could be it too Andy, damn I wish I hadn't read that now though

[Smithy]

I don't think they'd bring one into it, how would they even control it :think:

[King Gizzard]

I don't think there's enough time to bother with it/for Euron to become a massive character

Mannn I hope these last two series don't feel rushed

[Novo]

Thing is from now on only the Events in Westeros matter in the show at least, Essos seems done and finished so although 7 episodes feel shorter that's a big chunk of the story wiped out adding into the fact the Baratheons, Boltons, Freys, Beyond the Wall/One Eyed Raven and Dorne storyline is all but done right now on the show the focus is more on the major characters from here on and building towards the end game so don't think they will rush it

[Smithy]

Yeah ^ Emilia said this is the first time she actually felt like she had to learn lines, in guessing a lot of the cast feel like that because there's so few of them now :joker:

Ep 2 spoiler pic (a little spoiler)

ok well for whatever reason the picture won't post on this ****ty forum but it was arya standing infront of nymeria[/img]

The reunion we've all been waiting for :amazed:

[user104658]

Yeah, I read that a lot of the cast were saying that although there are fewer episodes, they actually have more screen-time than in previous seasons. A lot of major storylines and character arcs have ended now, and a lot of the big characters are now in the same scenes whereas they previously had separate storylines.

[King Gizzard]

Wonder if every ep will be finale length in series 8

[Smithy]

I remember reading an interview where they said that would be the minimum length for an ep for S8

[Shaun]

lots of Varys being Varys :love:

[Novo]

Good old Hot pie returning

[Shaun]

Missandei/Greyworm :flutter: :flutter: :flutter:

Save my Jorah Sam! Save him now!

Lovely segue into the innards of a pie :worry: Nice to catch up with Hotpie :love:

Sansa being used this season to pretty much just disagree with everyone, bit of a useless character at the moment :(

Nymeria!!!!!!! :( :( :(

I do not care for any of the Sands even if they are lesbians, sorry Caitlin

Oh they're about to be killed by Euron??????? Go Euron??????

THEON YOU ABSOLUTE PRICK.

[Novo]

so much pandering and ass licking in Dragonstone all episode and then Euron absolutely destroys Tyrion's master plan and takes care of 2 sand snakes and has the last one, Elleria and Yara hostage whilst Theon dives overboard, had a feeling he would destroy a lot of the fleet since there was so much if it left, absolutely superb scene that showed just how mental and twisted Euron really is, incredible stuff.

[Shaun]

Was half expecting a kraken to turn up after your posts the other day in here

[Novo]

Can see Littlefinger really turning the screw with Sansa now and trying to manipulate her into thinking she has a greater claim to the north then Jon does and a lot of the northern houses despise the Targs anyway after Aerys reign and how he killed Ned's father, they can be easily swayed to get behind Sansa with him in Dragonstone not to mention Jon has pissed him off even more this episode, he can also just say that Jon would have lost the war against Ramsay in the battle of the bastards if he didn't turn up with the Knights of the vale which is true anyway

[Locke.]

That episode was so perfect, even without that scene at the end the pacing was just right.

Didn't see Euron's attack coming at all... Was a brilliant scene though. Didn't care for the Sand Snakes at all so I can accept the hot one living and the other 2 dying. Glad that Theon survived, even if it was another cowardly way to do so. Can't have him going through all that character development just to die because of Daenerys.

Glad that we'll finally get to see Casterly Rock. Haven't even been there in the books yet so should be pretty interesting. Not sure what Jorah has left to offer that makes it worthwhile saving him either, I mean I'm glad he is being saved but it better be for more than to just go and hang around Dany trying to simp her again.

[Locke.]

Also looks like next week we'll have reunions for:

Arya and Sansa, and possibly Bran.
Davos and Melisandre.
Jon and Tyrion.
Bronn and the fit sand snake.

Also would not be surprising to see Arya encounter the Brotherhood & Hound before she actually makes it to Winterfell. They're in a similar area and heading in the same direction.

[DouglasS]

Ep 2


Arya/Nymeria scene was perfect and one of my favorite scenes ever in the show. It was absoloute perfect and i loved how poetic it was, and how they paid tribute to Arya as a character. 'Thats not you', just like Arya said 'thats not me' to Ned about becoming a lady and marrying a nobel and living as a princess, Nymeria is the same as her in direwolf version and cannot be domesticated.

[King Gizzard]

Second time the spoilers have been right so they must be all right. Why did I do his to myself :sad:

[King Gizzard]

The Sand snake now she's got long hair: hottest girl there's ever been on the show, pls confirm

[Locke.]

Pretty sure Cersei will be getting some Myrcella revenge on her next week so I'd make the most of her now before she's split in 2 by the Mountain if I were you

[King Gizzard]

Jaime will spare her for Bronn surely, or maybe he'll revolt and leave

[Novo]

Jaimie sparing someone who murdered his daughter for someone he doesnt give two ****s about in the biggest plot twist yet

[Novo]

We didn't even get to see the Throne Room when Stannis was at Dragonstone, think he was in a few promo pics sitting on but cant actually remember a scene, should have known they were keeping it tucked away for the Targ Wench

[King Gizzard]

Last time I checked Tyene didn't kill Myrcella :idc:

[Novo]

She conspired with her bastard mother and was in on it so the mountain can give her a good pounding for your satisfaction before taking off her head

[Smithy]

Brilliant episode, the last twenty minutes had me sat open mouthed, I had no idea which way it was gonna go, can't ****ing believe theon, utter prick

[Locke.]

Brilliant episode, the last twenty minutes had me sat open mouthed, I had no idea which way it was gonna go, can't ****ing believe theon, utter prick

Euron would have killed her (and then him) anyway if he charged at him, give him a break :nono: At least now she has a tiny chance

[Novo]

The cockless coward was scared ****less

[Shaun]

Great episode for the other two dickless wonders though :clap1:

[Smithy]

Euron would have killed her (and then him) anyway if he charged at him, give him a break :nono: At least now she has a tiny chance

There is no way Cersei is going to let any of them live, they'll all die next week, no doubt about it :idc:

[Novo]

When will our Varys turn on the false pretender then

[storybrooke]

Loved this episode as much as the first. I know some people have criticised them for being too slow paced, but I enjoy watching the story developing regardless.

Daenerys doubting Varys - She is right to doubt him after all he has served several Kings. However I think she could end up being too distrustful and going crazy in the end.

HOTPIE RETURNS - I nearly screamed. He always makes me smile and after all, he taught Arya how to bake traitor Freys so well. :fan:

Sansa - She's been my favourite character for years but this season she is turning annoying. I think she could be more supportive of Jon and if she has concerns about his decisions, should talk about it in private. I think she will ultimately turn against Littlefinger upon the return of Bran and Arya to Winterfell - resulting in Arya killing him off to protect / in revenge of House Stark.

Sam trying to save Jorah - I was cringing at the puss of the wound. Also why could Sam only find rum as a pain relief? Surely there was something better to use in the bloody Citadel. :shrug:

Euron killing the sandsnakes has made me a fan of his. Never enjoyed the Dorne plot and found the bastard women to be so annoying. 2 down, 2 to go. Queen Cersei shall deal with them. It always annoyed me how Dorne stated they don't harm little girls there, but their nowruler proceeded to poison Princess Myrcella :bawling:

Theon jumping from the ship was ultimately a smart move. He couldn't win in this situation. If he stepped towards Euron/Yara, Yara would have been killed instantly. It will be interesting to see if Yara makes it out alive.

I'm also going to legitimately die when I see more Starks reuniting. :worship:

[King Gizzard]

Loved this episode as much as the first. I know some people have criticised them for being too slow paced, but I enjoy watching the story developing regardless.

Daenerys doubting Varys - She is right to doubt him after all he has served several Kings. However I think she could end up being too distrustful and going crazy in the end.

HOTPIE RETURNS - I nearly screamed. He always makes me smile and after all, he taught Arya how to bake traitor Freys so well. :fan:

Sansa - She's been my favourite character for years but this season she is turning annoying. I think she could be more supportive of Jon and if she has concerns about his decisions, should talk about it in private. I think she will ultimately turn against Littlefinger upon the return of Bran and Arya to Winterfell - resulting in Arya killing him off to protect / in revenge of House Stark.

Sam trying to save Jorah - I was cringing at the puss of the wound. Also why could Sam only find rum as a pain relief? Surely there was something better to use in the bloody Citadel. :shrug:

Euron killing the sandsnakes has made me a fan of his. Never enjoyed the Dorne plot and found the bastard women to be so annoying. 2 down, 2 to go. Queen Cersei shall deal with them. It always annoyed me how Dorne stated they don't harm little girls there, but their nowruler proceeded to poison Princess Myrcella :bawling:

Theon jumping from the ship was ultimately a smart move. He couldn't win in this situation. If he stepped towards Euron/Yara, Yara would have been killed instantly. It will be interesting to see if Yara makes it out alive.

I'm also going to legitimately die when I see more Starks reuniting. :worship:



This reminds me, the editing was incredible and you can tell they've got full creative freedom and are just having fun now there's not long left. The bit with Jorah where it went from peeling the wounds to the pie at the tavern, and when Greyworn and Missendei's sex scene led into that Maester grabbing that book..the transitions were so good

[Brother Leon]

Jon Snow better tell her to do one when she demands him to bend the knee. That's all :idc:

[user104658]

Anyone else wondering if Theon was "faking" his little breakdown and actually has some other plan? :think:

Acting like he was "still broken" was just about the only way they were going to get out of that situation alive and have a chance. I reckon Theon might have been acting and will (somehow) manage to save his sister...

[Niamh.]

It's so satisfying after all this time to see the reunifications happen, pity Arya will probably miss Jon this time though. Brilliant episode, wasn't too upset about the sandsnakes dying, they're annoying anyway and I don't care much about Yara either

[user104658]

It's so satisfying after all this time to see the reunifications happen, pity Arya will probably miss Jon this time though. Brilliant episode, wasn't too upset about the sandsnakes dying, they're annoying anyway and I don't care much about Yara eitherEveryone from Dorne except Oberyn has irritated me :joker:. However, it doesn't seem like the mother or the third sandsnake is dead, nor Yara. Looks like they'll be the "gifts" for Cercei. I reckon the last sand snake might escape (with help) but the mother's goose is cooked :joker:.

I'm also still convinced that Theon will manage to save Yara.

[Niamh.]

Everyone from Dorne except Oberyn has irritated me :joker:. However, it doesn't seem like the mother or the third sandsnake is dead, nor Yara. Looks like they'll be the "gifts" for Cercei. I reckon the last sand snake might escape (with help) but the mother's goose is cooked :joker:.

I'm also still convinced that Theon will manage to save Yara.

Yeah probably, I think Cersei will kill both the mother and daughter though. Shame about the whole Dorne fail, it was much better in the books, did you read them?

[user104658]

Yeah probably, I think Cersei will kill both the mother and daughter though. Shame about the whole Dorne fail, it was much better in the books, did you read them?I haven't read any of them, thinking about it once the show is actually finished to keep them sort of "separate" in my head as there are apparent differences. I usually end up reading a lot of other sites / wikis / YouTube videos for the extra information not covered, though.

I also have a huge amount of knowledge about Marvel and DC lore for someone who has never read a comic book :think:.

[Niamh.]

I haven't read any of them, thinking about it once the show is actually finished to keep them sort of "separate" in my head as there are apparent differences. I usually end up reading a lot of other sites / wikis / YouTube videos for the extra information not covered, though.

I also have a huge amount of knowledge about Marvel and DC lore for someone who has never read a comic book :think:.

Yeah the books are a bit different, there's slight variations and they've left out some good stuff too. I'm not sure he's ever going to actually finish them though :bawling:

[user104658]

Yeah the books are a bit different, there's slight variations and they've left out some good stuff too. I'm not sure he's ever going to actually finish them though :bawling:Well yes there's also that - I'd sort of like to know that they get finished before I commit to them!

I get the impression he's just going to allow the show ending to be the canon ending... Or perhaps wait until it's done and then finish the books but based on the way the show ends, which I suspect may not have been his original intention for the ending (if he ever had one).

[Niamh.]

Well yes there's also that - I'd sort of like to know that they get finished before I commit to them!

I get the impression he's just going to allow the show ending to be the canon ending... Or perhaps wait until it's done and then finish the books but based on the way the show ends, which I suspect may not have been his original intention for the ending (if he ever had one).

Well I do hope that if the show ends it differently that he sticks to his own ending. They seems to have stuck with most of the major things anyway though. I think for a story so complex like that with so many connections and links etc he would have had to have had the ending already thought out by now

[user104658]

Well I do hope that if the show ends it differently that he sticks to his own ending. They seems to have stuck with most of the major things anyway though. I think for a story so complex like that with so many connections and links etc he would have had to have had the ending already thought out by nowTrue, but maybe not specifics such as who lives / dies outside of whoever ends up in positions of power at the end... Just the broader strokes such as what happens with the white walkers, who (if anyone) ends up on the iron throne, if the North is free, etc.

I'm interested to see where they go with the spin-offs / prequels too. I have a horrible feeling they might be a bit of a cash-in though... The network panicking about one of their biggest shows ending, etc.

I'd personally rather they just gave other great original stories the GoT treatment :shrug:. They could do a good job with something else. "Rome" was excellent, it just didn't gain the following that GoT has and so became too expensive to make, but now that they have the whole "From the makers of Game of Thrones" thing to fall back on they could easily go for a new show entirely.

Maybe go for a sci fi setting... Game of Thrones IN SPACE :omgno:

[Niamh.]

Yeah totally agree with that TS, however sad it is when a show as good as GOTs or Breaking Bad ends, the last thing you want is them ruining the shows by dragging them on too long or milking them dry with spin offs etc (although Better Call Saul is pretty decent)

Are you watching 12 Monkeys btw TS?

[Brother Leon]

When will our Varys turn on the false pretender then

When Dany finds out Jon is in fact the True King and not her. She will go all "mad queen" as everything she believes in isn't true anymore I would imagine.

[Niamh.]

When Dany finds out Jon is in fact the True King and not her. She will go all "mad queen" as everything she believes in isn't true anymore I would imagine.

Nope the dragon has 3 heads

[Locke.]

Don't think she has any leverage to make Jon bend the knee now really. Her entire Westerosi army has just been annihilated. She only has the dragons (where are they by the way? Just chilling out on the roof of Dragonstone causing no destruction to Westeros at all?) and her foreign army. Jon won't be willing to march any of his men South to help her cause for the throne either. Him and Davos will tell her to do one and she'll come crawling back later in the story when the White Walkers are due to arrive.

[Niamh.]

I think Jon will convince her to put the Iron Throne plans on hold for a bit while they tackle the White walkers

[King Gizzard]

Do the White Walkers talk? They must do if they had a pact with Craster

And I didn't really think their intention would ever be the throne

[King Gizzard]

Cersei marrying the Night King next season

[Niamh.]

Do the White Walkers talk? They must do if they had a pact with Craster

And I didn't really think their intention would ever be the throne

No it would be to kill everyone

[King Gizzard]

Nice bunch

[Niamh.]

Cersei marrying the Night King next season

Finally she meets someone as cold as she is

[Locke.]

They are smart though, there is some kind of reason for their actions. They're not just brainless villains killing everyone for no reason. No idea what there actual aim is though

[King Gizzard]

I would have thought it was revenge against the children of the forest for creating them but that's already happened so

[Niamh.]

Maybe they're the good guys

[Brother Leon]

Nope the dragon has 3 heads

I read about the 3 dragon riders etc, but I think that may be abit too fairytale to pull off on TV. Could happen though.

[Locke.]

Maybe there is something on the other side of the Wall that can turn them back into their regular human selves or something. Kind of similar to how there was that horn of Winter in the books that could bring the Wall down.

[Niamh.]

I read about the 3 dragon riders etc, but I think that may be abit too fairytale to pull off on TV. Could happen though.

Did you read any theories who the third one could be and why? I don't want to say unless you have read that one as it could be a big spoiler if it comes true.

[King Gizzard]

Could just be aware of the Azor Ahai prophecy and knows they have to destroy them I guess, has to be one of the remaining cast

[King Gizzard]

Lol imagine if it was Theon

[Niamh.]

Lol imagine if it was Theon

Theon as Azor Ahai? that would be a twist no one would expect anyway :laugh:

[King Gizzard]

He's all about survival, how many times has he nearly died now

[Niamh.]

He's such a weasel though

[Locke.]

This is a good article on it all, I think it is 100% Jon though, just not sure who the loved one would be that he has to kill http://www.thisisinsider.com/game-of-thrones-azor-ahai-prophecy-theory-jon-daenerys-melisandre-2017-7

[King Gizzard]

I hope it's the hound and that could make Cleganebowl but I'm definitely gonna be wrong and sad

[Niamh.]

This is a good article on it all, I think it is 100% Jon though, just not sure who the loved one would be that he has to kill http://www.thisisinsider.com/game-of-thrones-azor-ahai-prophecy-theory-jon-daenerys-melisandre-2017-7

maybe Ghost?

[Locke.]

maybe Ghost?

How could you even suggest such a thing

[Locke.]

I'd rather Ghost live and everybody else be killed by white walkers than have a scene of Jon having to kill Ghost to save them all

[Niamh.]

How could you even suggest such a thing

:hehe:

[Niamh.]

I'd rather Ghost live and everybody else be killed by white walkers than have a scene of Jon having to kill Ghost to save them all

I just couldn't imagine him actually killing one of his family or someone

[Brother Leon]

Did you read any theories who the third one could be and why? I don't want to say unless you have read that one as it could be a big spoiler if it comes true.

Tyrion?

Something about the mad king being his dad or something?

But yeah. I definitely feel it is abit too fairytale in contrast to the rest of what we have had. I think one of the three at least needs to turn darker and Dany seems the most likely of them.

[Niamh.]

Tyrion?

Something about the mad king being his dead or something?

But yeah. I definitely feel it is abit too fairytale in contrast to the rest of what we have had. I think one of the three at least needs to turn darker and Dany seems the most likely of them.



Yeah that's the one, they drop some hints in the book that suggest that might be true

The hate between Tywin and the mad king and implying that the Mad King fancied Tywins wife and made suggestions that he should get "first go" on Tywins wedding night etc

[Tom4784]

It's so satisfying after all this time to see the reunifications happen, pity Arya will probably miss Jon this time though. Brilliant episode, wasn't too upset about the sandsnakes dying, they're annoying anyway and I don't care much about Yara either

I don't think Arya's heading back to Winterfell anymore.

The whole scene with Nymeria, to me, felt like Arya accepting the fact that, like the Direwolf, she had changed and could no longer go back to living as a Noble, she's become an assassin and crossing out names on her death list is her life now.

[Niamh.]

I don't think Arya's heading back to Winterfell anymore.

The whole scene with Nymeria, to me, felt like Arya accepting the fact that, like the Direwolf, she had changed and could no longer go back to living as a Noble, she's become an assassin and crossing out names on her death list is her life now.

Noooooooooooooooooooooo

[King Gizzard]

But didn't she go the opposite way (Winterfell) to Kings landing though? She was watching those blokes ride off who were going there, thought about it, and went the other way

[Niamh.]

But didn't she go the opposite way (Winterfell) to Kings landing though? She was watching those blokes ride off who were going there, thought about it, and went the other way

Yeah but then the encounter with Nymeria was after that so i think Dezzy means that she'll change her mind again and head back to Kings landing

[King Gizzard]

She'll go back to Hotpie and live out her days making bread

[Tom4784]

Yeah but then the encounter with Nymeria was after that so i think Dezzy means that she'll change her mind again and head back to Kings landing

Yup, I don't think Arya will go back this season. The only Stark reunion that's going to happen this year is Bran's I think.

[user104658]

But didn't she go the opposite way (Winterfell) to Kings landing though? She was watching those blokes ride off who were going there, thought about it, and went the other wayThat was before the "that's not you" scene though. She invited Nymeria to come with her back to Winterfell but the wolf wouldn't come because that's not her any more; she's wild and has her own pack. So it's possible that this made Arya realise that she's not just Arya Stark from Winterfell anymore either, and has her own path separate to the rest of the Starks.

I also think it might be a bit early for Arya to reunite with Jon... She would only have to leave again as her mission is only half finished.

Then again, someone is going to have to kill off Littlefinger soon...

[Niamh.]

That was before the "that's not you" scene though. She invited Nymeria to come with her back to Winterfell but the wolf wouldn't come because that's not her any more; she's wild and has her own pack. So it's possible that this made Arya realise that she's not just Arya Stark from Winterfell anymore either, and has her own path separate to the rest of the Starks.

I also think it might be a bit early for Arya to reunite with Jon... She would only have to leave again as her mission is only half finished.

Then again, someone is going to have to kill off Littlefinger soon...

mmmm while all that makes sense, she'd also only just rediscovered heraself and became proud of "Arya Stark"

[Amy Jade]

Grey Worm is so hot!

[King Gizzard]

And also, they can get ravens from the citadel and dragonstone yet no ones told Jon about Bran yet :think:

[Locke.]

Dolorous Edd spending the past 2 weeks trying to figure out how to attach the letter to the raven

[storybrooke]

I hope we get to see Casterley Rock and all of its gold next episode

[Niamh.]

Dolorous Edd spending the past 2 weeks trying to figure out how to attach the letter to the raven

:laugh:

[King Gizzard]

Thinking about it he could have just sent a raven himself

[Niamh.]

Thinking about it he could have just sent a raven himself

He could have sent himself as a raven

[King Gizzard]

That's what I was getting at :fist:

[Niamh.]

Well you should have been clearer then :idc:

[user104658]

mmmm while all that makes sense, she'd also only just rediscovered heraself and became proud of "Arya Stark"Yeah but that was more in the sense of "Arya Stark of the north who has a family and grudges and the north remembers and is also a badass assassin with a list", rather than Arya Stark who wants to go home...

Like, I think she WILL go home, but only if and when her list is complete.

[Niamh.]

Yeah but that was more in the sense of "Arya Stark of the north who has a family and grudges and the north remembers and is also a badass assassin with a list", rather than Arya Stark who wants to go home...

Like, I think she WILL go home, but only if and when her list is complete.

aww i really want to see her back home again but maybe that would make her boring too and she's my fav

[Novo]

Just when we think the Dorne lot have all been slaughtered they will introduce Quentyn to the show and will go to Dragonstone to try and simp Daenerys

[user104658]

Are the Dornish and Tyrell armies actually slaughtered btw? I'm sure the fleets were on their way to COLLECT the armies and bring them back (having unloaded the Dothraki and Unsullied at dragonstone), so the ships were basically empty / operating on a skeleton crew which is what made them an easy target for Euron to destroy. So surely the actual armies are still in Dorne / Highgarden waiting to be collected... Though of course, they now have no ships nor sailing crew.

[Tom4784]

Are the Dornish and Tyrell armies actually slaughtered btw? I'm sure the fleets were on their way to COLLECT the armies and bring them back (having unloaded the Dothraki and Unsullied at dragonstone), so the ships were basically empty / operating on a skeleton crew which is what made them an easy target for Euron to destroy. So surely the actual armies are still in Dorne / Highgarden waiting to be collected... Though of course, they now have no ships nor sailing crew.

The Dornish army are still alive but out of reach, I think. The Tyrell army is still kicking about but I assume the fallout from Daenerys losing the Dornish army will be that she'll be forced to take the throne in a way she didn't want. She'll have to use her own army which will create a situation where she's feared and not loved like she was in Slaver's Bay which Cersei will turn to her advantage.

It'll lead to an ironic situation where Daenerys has the power but not the hearts of the people which will cause them to rally with Cersei.

[Novo]

The Dornish army are still alive but out of reach, I think. The Tyrell army is still kicking about but I assume the fallout from Daenerys losing the Dornish army will be that she'll be forced to take the throne in a way she didn't want. She'll have to use her own army which will create a situation where she's feared and not loved like she was in Slaver's Bay which Cersei will turn to her advantage.

It'll lead to an ironic situation where Daenerys has the power but not the hearts of the people which will cause them to rally with Cersei.

Daenerys will possibly have house Taryl onside (the talk with Jamie and Randyll about house tarly having honor and not wanting to fight against the Tyrells because of the oath they made was certainly a placed there for a reason) and she was only really loved by the slaves and low borns in Essos anyway she never fully united the people and the noble lords and even in a lot of cases the slaves disliked her rule because they were of the opinion she took away their purpose in life and doing things like closing the fighting pits didn't exactly make her be loved either, she pretty much left places like Astapor in ruin after she " liberated " the people and much worse of the when she arrived

[user104658]

The Dornish army are still alive but out of reach, I think. The Tyrell army is still kicking about but I assume the fallout from Daenerys losing the Dornish army will be that she'll be forced to take the throne in a way she didn't want. She'll have to use her own army which will create a situation where she's feared and not loved like she was in Slaver's Bay which Cersei will turn to her advantage.

It'll lead to an ironic situation where Daenerys has the power but not the hearts of the people which will cause them to rally with Cersei.I'd imagine that the very same situation is what will prompt her (probably under advisement from Tyrion and Viserys, as set up by her promising to listen) to agree to the alliance with The North whilst nit forcing them to "bend the knee" / agreeing that The North can remain free.

[King Gizzard]

Just watched it again, don't blame Theon tbh. Suffering from PTSD from his time with Ramsay and Euron is cutting people's tongues out left right centre and I think he knew it would trigger Theon

Difference is, Theon didn't bite like Jon Snow did with Ramsay and Rickon, and got away probably saving the life of Yara who might have died in the struggle/had her throats cut if Theon had attacked

[Novo]

Theon is a pretty ****ty person in general really even before he was Reek he was like that so have never really seen him as a so called good guy

In S2 he was sent to the iron islands to get Balon to join an alliance with Robb but just totally turned his back on the family who raised him and who treated him well for years then when him and Yara sailed to take deepwood motte he wasn't content with that and instead ****ed Robb over even more and took over Winterfell, kills innocent people, beheads Rodrik and responsible for Luwin's death.

Not really a fan of Yara but at least she tried to get him to leave Winterfell after he took it and she went to the dreadfort to try and save him after he was tortured by Ramsay, Theon would never have done anything like that for Yara because their is nothing to suggest he had ever been like that

Euron is exactly right about him he is a cockless coward

[user104658]

True, it's hard to sympathise with Theon when you remember that he had two innocent kids killed and burned so that he could pretend it was Bran and Rickon

[King Gizzard]

It's hard to find a character who hasn't been a complete **** though (the Hound killing Arya's friend for example)

I don't really like Theon/prefer Euron really I just didn't see it as that cowardly. Think he might try get back to her

[Locke.]

I hated Theon after he betrayed Robb but think having his dick cut off and all those years of torture and flaying that he paid his price for it.. He redeemed himself a lot by saving Sansa as well. If he hadn't of done that then she'd have probably had a kid before Jon even arrived to fight, and Sansa and the baby would have been slaughtered as well as Rickon.

There should be more loyalty to Yara from him after everything she has done to help him, but can't blame him for jumping overboard really. Would like to say he'll redeem himself further and try to rescue her but I don't think it's possible really.. He's in the middle of the ocean between Dragonstone and Dorne, incredibly far from any other character, with no weapons, no boat, no horse when he gets to land, etc. Not to mention he has never been to King's Landing, knows nobody there to help him, and pretty much every person in Westeros hates him. Long term I think he's Brotherhood bound, not sure for the next few episodes though unless they're bringing Salladhor Saan and the pirates back.

[MTVN]

Maybe if Yara was organising her fleet better rather than getting pissed and having it on with the Dornish woman then they might have noticed fifty of Eurons ship were just about to attack them

[King Gizzard]

Yeah not quite sure how no one raised the alarm sooner, then again Euron's ship Silence would have blended in with the nights sky and none of Euron's crew members have tongues

[MTVN]

This is quite an interesting observation as well

(He beat the Sand Snakes, it turns out, because one of the three stayed back to protect her mother: if all three Sand Snakes had been up on the deck to fight Euron, all the finishing blows we see the surviving Sand Snake deliver to various unnamed pirates, below deck, would have been delivered to Euron. Watch it again: we see SS #1 bump, we see SS #2 set, and then we see SS #3 spike the ball… except then the camera pulls back and we realize that it wasn’t Euron she castrated. The implication is clear: if all three sisters had been up there, they’d have won; but Yara told her to stay below and protect her mother, and she does, apparently dooming them all.)

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/game-thrones-stormborn/

[Shaun]

A rubbish combat technique if they're useless without each other :inamood:

[Tom4784]

Flop bitches tbh!

Theon will end up redeeming himself by rescuing Yara, I expect. I don't see the narrative point in keeping her alive since Euron doesn't need to keep her around if Theon doesn't mount a rescue. The common link between both episodes is that the writers are clearing the board of unnecessary players, The Freys were killed off last week, Half of the Dorne characters were killed this week and Cersei will undoubtedly kill the other two next week. Yara would have been killed off this week if they didn't plan on doing something more with her.

[user104658]

Flop bitches tbh!

Theon will end up redeeming himself by rescuing Yara, I expect. I don't see the narrative point in keeping her alive since Euron doesn't need to keep her around if Theon doesn't mount a rescue. The common link between both episodes is that the writers are clearing the board of unnecessary players, The Freys were killed off last week, Half of the Dorne characters were killed this week and Cersei will undoubtedly kill the other two next week. Yara would have been killed off this week if they didn't plan on doing something more with her.Yeah, especially as Euron was planning to kill them back on the Islands in the first place. He has no use for them, he doesn't want them around, they're a threat to his claim to rule, he specifically wants rid of them and that's why he was tracking them down in the first place... Him not killing Yara is a bit of a plot hole actually... Unless they explain some reason for it next week. She's in the Dany inner circle now so maybe he wants to "gift" her to Cercei along with the others for that reason.

[Novo]

It's hard to find a character who hasn't been a complete **** though (the Hound killing Arya's friend for example)

I don't really like Theon/prefer Euron really I just didn't see it as that cowardly. Think he might try get back to her

When the Hound killed Ayra's friend though he was doing the crowns work really he was making ends meet before he decided enough was enough and ****ed off the King, Theon just outright betrayed the house that brought him up for no other reason then Riches and Glory

the Hound has reasons to be the way he is his after his own brother burnt half his face so you can excuse him for being a bit mental where as Theon was brought up better then most people can ever dream off in Westeros and still betrayed them before he was tortured

[Novo]

This is quite an interesting observation as well

(He beat the Sand Snakes, it turns out, because one of the three stayed back to protect her mother: if all three Sand Snakes had been up on the deck to fight Euron, all the finishing blows we see the surviving Sand Snake deliver to various unnamed pirates, below deck, would have been delivered to Euron. Watch it again: we see SS #1 bump, we see SS #2 set, and then we see SS #3 spike the ball… except then the camera pulls back and we realize that it wasn’t Euron she castrated. The implication is clear: if all three sisters had been up there, they’d have won; but Yara told her to stay below and protect her mother, and she does, apparently dooming them all.)

https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/game-thrones-stormborn/

One of the mutes wouldn't have come up on deck with a knife to Elleria's throat if them 3 were fighting Euron anyway, then they soon would have dropped their weapons and begged for mercy for their bastard mother

[Locke.]

Maybe the White Walkers will be able to walk across the iced over sea now instead of passing through the Wall :think:

https://68.media.tumblr.com/834f8ff2111772cf56a869f29458f457/tumblr_inline_otkklz15TH1s4bowb_540.jpg

[Novo]

Jon sent the wildings to eastwatch anyway didn't he

[Novo]

That big dopey giant stepping on the ice and breaking it and all the white walker army falling into the sea and Tormund taking all the credit for it

[Locke.]

The Hound mentioned something in his fire vision as well about the dead marching past the castle where the Wall meets the sea

[Smithy]

People that have read the spoilers say eps 4,6 & 7 will be BOTB/WoW level good

SHOOK

[King Gizzard]

To be fair, that last ep was up there

[King Gizzard]

Noticed all the eps are 66 mins running time when the average is normally 58-59, small but significant I guess, an extra scene/no corners cut

[Nicky91]

Theon what a coward, couldn't save his sister from Euron in that last episode :joker:



but Euron wow he's so badass, and i think he will go to Cersei with his prisoners to express his love for her again or something like that

[Smithy]

To be fair, that last ep was up there

Nowhere near 6x9, 6x10 tho

[Brother Leon]

Noticed all the eps are 66 mins running time when the average is normally 58-59, small but significant I guess, an extra scene/no corners cut

Yet they still cut a scene of Jon and Ghost last episode :(

[storybrooke]

Yet they still cut a scene of Jon and Ghost last episode :(

:fist::fist::fist:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

is ser pounce still in the show or

[Novo]

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Think that's the 3rd major GOT character to appear in X-Men films now

[Shaun]

10/10 Davos moment there

[Shaun]

I really do not care for any of this Daenerys/Jon stuff they're building, idc about their 'tension', idc idc idc idc IDC!!!

Cersei/Euron is a far more compelling pairing :clap1:

Welp bye Sand Snake #3 </3 that was cold af.

An openly incestuous queen sounds like it'll end...well...

I was about to be happy for the Sansa/Bran reunion but Bran has turned into a ****ing creep so **** THAT guy.

Poor Jim Broadbent being outdoctored by Sam after a week or so. That handshake strikes me as a bit worrying though.

Tyrion narrating his secret sewer system :love:

Olenna :( :( :( overrated af but will be missed. Glad she had her final barb though.

[King Gizzard]

yeah that Tyrion scene was the best part..shame it stands for nothing now

[King Gizzard]

Oh wait no, the best bit was every Davos bit

[Locke.]

Another brilliant episode

I'm half annoyed and half glad at how quickly characters are travelling all over the map. In some instances it's good to save time, and in others it just makes no sense. Jon travelled all the way from Winterfell to White Harbour and then to Dragonstone, spent a considerable amount of time there, all in the time it took the Unsullied to get from Dragonstone to Casterly Rock (about half the distance Jon travelled).

Cersei and Ellaria/Tyene was nowhere near as brutal as I expected tbh. Expected much worse.

The Jon and Dany scenes were great. So relieved that he stood his ground and has let her know that he won't be caving on her demands of bending the knee or fighting against Cersei. He just needs to get out of there now with the Dragonglass and not get caught up in this war.

Jaime learning from Robb and stealing his tactics :worship: Learned from the best. Robb embarrassed a season battle commander in Tywin time and time again, he has been the best commander on the field in all 7 seasons. If only he'd have handled the political side of things as well :(

Bran and Sansa reunion is great. He probably should have used a better example to show he was telling the truth though.

Casterly Rock was a bit underwhelming. Been waiting to see it for years and in the end it was just a ploy. The Highgarden battle was glossed over incredibly fast as well. Didn't care much for Olenna or the Tyrells so no problem with them now being extinct.

Great episode overall.

Oh, and Tyrion has been outmaneuvered in every instance since his return to Westeros and is really costing Dany so far (hopefully he keeps it up). Makes it even funnier that he managed to beat Stannis

[King Gizzard]

so there was a battle between the Tyrell's and Lannisters that we didn't see or the Tyrell's are elsewhere fighting for Dany? I expect they'll fight for house Tarly now there's no more Tyrell's so will switch allegiance to House Lannister? It's much more even between the Cersei vs Dany and Jon

[Locke.]

so there was a battle between the Tyrell's and Lannisters that we didn't see or the Tyrell's are elsewhere fighting for Dany? I expect they'll fight for house Tarly now there's no more Tyrell's so will switch allegiance to House Lannister? It's much more even between the Cersei vs Dany and Jon

Yeah they showed Jaime walking past a few dead bodies with the Tyrell flags burning on the ground just before he went in to see Olenna, so there was a battle there at Highgarden that we didn't see. So Dany has lost all of her Westerosi allies at this point.

[Novo]

Euron capturing Elleria and Tyene one week and getting them both a brutal long suffering death as justice for Mrycella is finally completed and then justice for Joffrey (no one really cared for him but still) good seeing Bronn back as well fighting alongside Jamie.

Great stuff that Jon didn't bend the knee and make himself look weak, pretty much landed there went against her wishes and took the dragonglass and soldiers (if he took her up on that offer as well) and left, agree with Shaun the Euron/Cersei situation is really interesting to watch and a Westeros political masterclass.

Casterly Rock battle was shorter then I expected really thought they'd at least have a good full 15/20 minutes instead but love how they built up the battle with Tyrion making it seem like the unsullied were pretty much guaranteed to take the Rock but obviously didn't expect Euron showing up and destroying the fleet which really kept up his momentum as being a serious threat.

Not really sure how Daenerys having suspitions about Jon being brought back from the dead will effect the whole arc really, maybe the same will happen to her and that's why Mellisandre has been saying she needs to come back to die (like Beric did with Stoneheart) maybe use the last of her powers, would be pretty ****ty now though since we have seen it all before

Jorah and Sam scene was okay but they have surely done all they can with Jorah now, the only thing that can await him is a hero's death

[King Gizzard]

weird to completely leave the two biggest armies in Westeros fighting out completely but then again I suppose there isn't a budget for it when it's not a massive plot point and it shows how effective Jamie's planning was that it was over without much fuss.

[Novo]

i pretty much agree with how quick the way they did the Tyrell battle, they have never been a great fighting force anyway and don't really have much glory in the past, they have been had hook line and sinker by the Lannisters for years after their part in Roberts Rebellion and siding with the Targs

[Novo]

let's not forget Stannis destroying Mace Tryell at the siege of storms end when most of his soldiers were dying of starvation and living on Onions sent by Davos, bit of a joke house really

[Shaun]

Given this show's love of a bit of camp and bitchy putdowns with Cersei/Olenna, I wouldn't be surprised if Jon/Daenerys did get it on a bit so Cersei could die with a parting gift about not being the only incestuous queen or something

(I know there's not really much logistic sense for Dany/Jon to waste any more time shagging but...just get the feeling they're building to that eventually, and Cersei can escape Kings Landing when that falls somehow)

[King Gizzard]

"Easter egg"? about what Gilly was reading..

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Was only on screen for a split second as well Lol

Just goes to show the show isn't actually that deep and people overthink things, unless Jorah isn't actually healed yet

[Shaun]

Definitely an unnecessary handshake, Samwell's inevitable greyscale brushing off on his V.I.Sword now

[Locke.]

Also within the last season the following houses have now become extinct:

Bolton
Frey (with the exception of Roslin, although she will now technically be a Tully)
Tyrell
Martell

Following on from the Baratheon's the season before.

[King Gizzard]

Given this show's love of a bit of camp and bitchy putdowns with Cersei/Olenna, I wouldn't be surprised if Jon/Daenerys did get it on a bit so Cersei could die with a parting gift about not being the only incestuous queen or something

(I know there's not really much logistic sense for Dany/Jon to waste any more time shagging but...just get the feeling they're building to that eventually, and Cersei can escape Kings Landing when that falls somehow)

As mentioned by Locke looks like they're really scrapping any sense of logistics, Jon is going to be up and down Westeros trying to convince people Walkers exist in the next 4 eps I'm guessing

[Novo]

Also within the last season the following houses have now become extinct:

Bolton
Frey (with the exception of Roslin, although she will now technically be a Tully)
Tyrell
Martell

Following on from the Baratheon's the season before.

Don't be silly, The Quenster is still around somewhere, just waiting for the perfect time to introduce him

[Locke.]

Think Doran said Trystane was his heir in the show so Quentyn doesn't exist thankfully, he was the most pointless character ever

[Novo]

mentioned in the other thread but Daario is definitely coming back now isn't he,

1) he has sellsword links and a great fighter who can persuade people to fight for Daenerys

2) who else has Dany got? Daario is pretty much her last hope, find it pretty weird actually I she doesn't / hasn't mentioned him at all in the show this season when she is in love with the guy in the books, very much obsessed in some chapters in ADWD, got to trying to make us forget he exists for his grand return

[King Gizzard]

bank of Braavos to send Jaquen to help Cersei, although think he probably respects Arya too much

[Novo]

Our Stannis's fault all this Iron Bank stuff happening in Kings Landing, him and Davos turning up a few seasons ago raiding them dry when they convinced them that Stannis would sit the Iron Throne now they have to get the debt back from the Lannisters even more now they have wasted loads, meanwhile Robb helps the Lannisters by inspiring Jamie to use his battle plans, unreal stuff

[Shaun]

Oh and something I forgot since it happened at the start

Who picked up Theon?

[King Gizzard]

Oh and something I forgot since it happened at the start

Who picked up Theon?

They mentioned a few of Yara's boats surviving, so I suppose one of them

[Nicky91]

omg Daenerys what an entitled brat how she acted towards poor Jon

[storybrooke]

Too much Daenerys/Jon screentime.

I wanted to see a little more of the North and exploring the new relationship between Sansa/Bran. It all seems a bit weird now he is the new 3 eyed raven – he didn’t get emotional about being reunited with a member of his family at all. I also felt sooo bad for Sansa when Bran was recalling what had happened to her. Couldn't he have picked a happier memory?:bawling: HEARTLESS!!

Euron asking Jaime about Cersei’s favoured sexual activities was pretty funny. I lowkey ship Euron/Cersei and hope they get married in the end (lol)

I’m glad that the sandsnakes are being punished for killing Myrcella. She was an innocent girl and I would have loved to see her as Queen. I think she’d be much more involved in ruling things with her mother than Tommen was. I wonder who Cersei would have picked as a potential suitor for her only daughter.

Loved Olenna admitting to killing Joffrey, her last moment of savagery before dying.

We better have a reunion involving Arya in the next episode too!!!

[Nicky91]

Too much Daenerys/Jon screentime.

I wanted to see a little more of the North and exploring the new relationship between Sansa/Bran. It all seems a bit weird now he is the new 3 eyed raven – he didn’t get emotional about being reunited with a member of his family at all. I also felt sooo bad for Sansa when Bran was recalling what had happened to her. Couldn't he have picked a happier memory?:bawling: HEARTLESS!!

Euron asking Jaime about Cersei’s favoured sexual activities was pretty funny. I lowkey ship Euron/Cersei and hope they get married in the end (lol)

I’m glad that the sandsnakes are being punished for killing Myrcella. She was an innocent girl and I would have loved to see her as Queen. I think she’d be much more involved in ruling things with her mother than Tommen was. I wonder who Cersei would have picked as a potential suitor for her only daughter.

Loved Olenna admitting to killing Joffrey, her last moment of savagery before dying.

We better have a reunion involving Arya in the next episode too!!!


i find Daenerys more and more annoying, and many people find the same as me i read on YouTube, i liked Sansa and Bran's reunion, Olenna no she was my fave character :bawling:

[DouglasS]

Bran is such a **** character, the worst in the books an the show. The reunion felt nothing like Jon/Sansa, it just didn't have the same feel. I doubt it'll have the same feel of Sansa/Arya if that happens also. It's clear the writers also don't like Bran's character as hes lacked screentime any season he is in, and hes even been missing from a season. He literally has about 30 seconds screentime in each episode to remind viewers he exists.

[storybrooke]

Bran is such a **** character, the worst in the books an the show. The reunion felt nothing like Jon/Sansa, it just didn't have the same feel. I doubt it'll have the same feel of Sansa/Arya if that happens also. It's clear the writers also don't like Bran's character as hes lacked screentime any season he is in, and hes even been missing from a season. He literally has about 30 seconds screentime in each episode to remind viewers he exists.

Yeah tbh I wouldn't really care if his character dies before the end, I just don't have a connection with his character as a viewer. I think he will probably die for the greater good or to help his family in Season 8 perhaps

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

amazing ep :worship:

[King Gizzard]

i can't remember if it's common knowledge to viewers that Olenna killed Joffrey or if that was a shock?

[Glenn.]

i can't remember if it's common knowledge to viewers that Olenna killed Joffrey or if that was a shock?

Yes it was common knowledge. Olenna told Margaery.

[King Gizzard]

Thank you Glen
I mean I knew she did I just couldn't remember if it would have been a surprise for people who don't read the books and stuff

[Locke.]

Too much Daenerys/Jon screentime.

I wanted to see a little more of the North and exploring the new relationship between Sansa/Bran. It all seems a bit weird now he is the new 3 eyed raven – he didn’t get emotional about being reunited with a member of his family at all. I also felt sooo bad for Sansa when Bran was recalling what had happened to her. Couldn't he have picked a happier memory?:bawling: HEARTLESS!!

Euron asking Jaime about Cersei’s favoured sexual activities was pretty funny. I lowkey ship Euron/Cersei and hope they get married in the end (lol)

I’m glad that the sandsnakes are being punished for killing Myrcella. She was an innocent girl and I would have loved to see her as Queen. I think she’d be much more involved in ruling things with her mother than Tommen was. I wonder who Cersei would have picked as a potential suitor for her only daughter.

Loved Olenna admitting to killing Joffrey, her last moment of savagery before dying.

We better have a reunion involving Arya in the next episode too!!!


There was talk early in the first book of betrothing Myrcella and Robb to one another at the same time as Sansa and Joffrey. Thankfully that didn't happen.

Also, I have a theory on how Cersei is going to lose this war...

We've had 2 scenes now of her being warned about Euron only being on her side "for now". One warning by Jaime, and one warning by the Iron Bank. She's also rejected his marriage proposal once, and postponed it this second time until after the war. Now remember, Daenerys was Euron's first choice last season. He was going to go to her first and the only reason he didn't was because Theon and Yara got there first.

Daenerys also left Daario behind last season because she knew she would have to marry in Westeros to form an alliance. Obviously everybody assumes this will be to Jon, but I just don't see that happening. She got very lucky originally by running into 3 armies being lead by women - half of the Greyjoy's, Dorne, and Tyrell's. She also just lost her entire fleet and all of her Westerosi allies because of Euron, and he now has the biggest fleet in the seven kingdoms. She could really do with inheriting one... She no longer needs to have any allegiance to Yara and Theon because they have nothing left to offer her.

There is also a prophecy for Daenerys in the books that I'd forgotten about when I first thought of this last night.

"Three mounts you must ride - One to bed, one to dread, and one to love."

Love - Drogo. Bed - Daario. Dread - Euron.

Would also be a pretty interesting twist to see the fan favourite marry the seasons main villain.

[Nicky91]

There was talk early in the first book of betrothing Myrcella and Robb to one another at the same time as Sansa and Joffrey. Thankfully that didn't happen.

Also, I have a theory on how Cersei is going to lose this war...

We've had 2 scenes now of her being warned about Euron only being on her side "for now". One warning by Jaime, and one warning by the Iron Bank. She's also rejected his marriage proposal once, and postponed it this second time until after the war. Now remember, Daenerys was Euron's first choice last season. He was going to go to her first and the only reason he didn't was because Theon and Yara got there first.

Daenerys also left Daario behind last season because she knew she would have to marry in Westeros to form an alliance. Obviously everybody assumes this will be to Jon, but I just don't see that happening. She got very lucky originally by running into 3 armies being lead by women - half of the Greyjoy's, Dorne, and Tyrell's. She also just lost her entire fleet and all of her Westerosi allies because of Euron, and he now has the biggest fleet in the seven kingdoms. She could really do with inheriting one... She no longer needs to have any allegiance to Yara and Theon because they have nothing left to offer her.

There is also a prophecy for Daenerys in the books that I'd forgotten about when I first thought of this last night.

"Three mounts you must ride - One to bed, one to dread, and one to love."

Love - Drogo. Bed - Daario. Dread - Euron.

Would also be a pretty interesting twist to see the fan favourite marry the seasons main villain.

Daenerys is not a fan favourite :fist:

[Novo]

Bran is such a **** character, the worst in the books an the show. The reunion felt nothing like Jon/Sansa, it just didn't have the same feel. I doubt it'll have the same feel of Sansa/Arya if that happens also. It's clear the writers also don't like Bran's character as hes lacked screentime any season he is in, and hes even been missing from a season. He literally has about 30 seconds screentime in each episode to remind viewers he exists.

Didn't actually mind his chapters in the books for the fact I was interested in Meera and Jojen's part in all of it, far to much focusing on him changing into Summer/Hodor at times as far as he was concerned but after last season on the show and the reveal of his greenseer potential I appreciate his character a lot more, I admire the fact his whole story is that he lost something that would have made him a great warrior but gained a power that hardly anyone has ever had, which could be a sacrifice for the greater good of Westeros in the end

[Smithy]

Great episode :clap1:

Why is Bran so ****ing creepy now tho?

Trailer for next week, Dany on Drogon yaaaaaaas

[storybrooke]

There was talk early in the first book of betrothing Myrcella and Robb to one another at the same time as Sansa and Joffrey. Thankfully that didn't happen.

Also, I have a theory on how Cersei is going to lose this war...

We've had 2 scenes now of her being warned about Euron only being on her side "for now". One warning by Jaime, and one warning by the Iron Bank. She's also rejected his marriage proposal once, and postponed it this second time until after the war. Now remember, Daenerys was Euron's first choice last season. He was going to go to her first and the only reason he didn't was because Theon and Yara got there first.

Daenerys also left Daario behind last season because she knew she would have to marry in Westeros to form an alliance. Obviously everybody assumes this will be to Jon, but I just don't see that happening. She got very lucky originally by running into 3 armies being lead by women - half of the Greyjoy's, Dorne, and Tyrell's. She also just lost her entire fleet and all of her Westerosi allies because of Euron, and he now has the biggest fleet in the seven kingdoms. She could really do with inheriting one... She no longer needs to have any allegiance to Yara and Theon because they have nothing left to offer her.

There is also a prophecy for Daenerys in the books that I'd forgotten about when I first thought of this last night.

"Three mounts you must ride - One to bed, one to dread, and one to love."

Love - Drogo. Bed - Daario. Dread - Euron.

Would also be a pretty interesting twist to see the fan favourite marry the seasons main villain.

Good thinking about that prophecy, you could have something good there. I really want Cersei/Euron married though :bawling:

[Shaun]

yeah bran needs to go

dunno if it's the actor or just the character but they're basically coming across as the Ghost of Christmas Past when it's just far too silly and boring. Plot device characters like that serve no purpose other than to titillate the hardcore fans into thinking X Y or Z might happen

[Smithy]

Thing is in S4(?) GRRM wrote the episode and said he was the most important part of everything :conf2:

[Novo]

Was their really any other way of knowing about Jon's true identity though without Bran and his story? (No one else knew about it that is alive right now) He's not the best character personality wise but his story and the background and stark history with the Reeds is very underestimated at times

[DouglasS]

Yeah I understand Bran is needed for the story, but the actor isn't great, and the way the character has been delivered comes off more creepy/awkward. You'd not have known Bran/Sansa were sibilings that hadn't seen each other in years from the scene. Also its hard to kinda like Bran as he gets almost no screentime and just appears for seconds randomly in episodes rather than get a big chunk in an episode.

[Smithy]

Was their really any other way of knowing about Jon's true identity though without Bran and his story? (No one else knew about it that is alive right now) He's not the best character personality wise but his story and the background and stark history with the Reeds is very underestimated at times

Potentially littlefinger or Varys

[DouglasS]

Yeah I was thinking Varys could find out in some way actually, as he has spiders everywhere for ages. I think because of the popularity of Bran, hes getting much less airtime/plot devices from the production team [Much alike Dorne/Sand snakes did in S5 after the backlash] and its actually effecting the storylines occuring now its ahead of the books.