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user104658
23-04-2019, 06:42 AM
Something that confused me .... Bran said the night king had sent many 3 eyed raven to try and kill Bran already. I don't even remember 1 having a good poke at him and isn't he now the 3 eyed raven .... i know he is meant to be an enigma ..... but unless ive somehow blacked it out, i can't make sense of that at allU misheard. He said that the Night King has tried to wipe out the Three Eyed Raven many times before / has killed many previous iterations of the Three Eyed Raven (e.g. The previous one in the "Hooo'do'door! Episode) but has always been too late (with the abilities being passed on to the next host before he killed the previous one). He wants the Three Eyed Raven (Bran) GONE and probably is aware that this time, there's definitely no chance of him having trained up a replacement yet, so if Bran dies the Raven dies forever.

Regarding Little Sam... I think the sacrifice being missed is mostly at the time when the white walkers started moving south is mostly coincidence; it's definitely not their REASON for marching, and I can't see the Night King being all that bothered, although he may want to take the kid "on principle" and send one of his WW "generals" to fetch the kid, in which case yes I can see Sam killing another White Walker... Though I'd guess he'll save Gilly and Little Sam (and the others in the crypt) but will possibly die himself doing so.

Nicky91
23-04-2019, 07:35 AM
great buildup second episode towards the ''battle of winterfell''

Scarlett.
23-04-2019, 12:03 PM
The White Walker threat's definitely ending in the next episode though, I think. There's too much drama in the battle for the throne for the white walkers to kick around all season. We'll get a huge spectacle of a battle in the next episode and then they'll shank the Night King, kill off his hordes and set the stage for a potential three way battle between what's left of the Starks, Dany's forces and Cersei.

I can't see that happening, it'd be too neatly tied up, the first scene of GoT was about the white walkers, they've always been the true threat.

I think we're going to see a sizable portion of the dead attack Winterfell, while the Night King heads for King's Landing, to turn the city. These past few seasons have been littered with hints about it, telling us how more people live in KL than the whole North of Westeros.

Vicky.
23-04-2019, 12:05 PM
If you can predict it, it’s not going to happen

Well yes this is probably true :laugh:

Also I have been reminded elsewhere that the white walkers were causing **** long before Gilly had the baby, as in the first scene they massacred loads of people. So my theory is totally dead, but I would still love it. Or for Sam to be the one to end the war at least :laugh:

Vicky.
23-04-2019, 12:08 PM
Issue is, if they have 'split up' then the North cannot win the war at all as the only way to do that is to kill the night king. If hes buggered off down Kings landing, then the North have no chance at all besides just...running. Then maybe they all do haver to fight together, against Cerseis wishes but she will have no choice, and another huge battle with them all against TNK and his army happens in Kings landing. Mind I reckon Cersei will make people go out and kill the main characters during this. She won't fight fair. Even if it means TNK wins, she will NOT give up the throne.

Tom4784
23-04-2019, 12:14 PM
I can't see that happening, it'd be too neatly tied up, the first scene of GoT was about the white walkers, they've always been the true threat.

I think we're going to see a sizable portion of the dead attack Winterfell, while the Night King heads for King's Landing, to turn the city. These past few seasons have been littered with hints about it, telling us how more people live in KL than the whole North of Westeros.

I dunno, even now, you've got characters more preoccupied with the throne than the Night King and the fact they've made a point of emphasising the fact that they can take out the army in one fell swoop is telling. Weakening the White Walkers at this point tells me they won't be sticking around for the rest of the season.

The White Walkers are all spectacle and no substance, we'll get this big glorious battle with them in the next episode and the last three will be based around the final battles for the throne.

Scarlett.
23-04-2019, 12:14 PM
Issue is, if they have 'split up' then the North cannot win the war at all as the only way to do that is to kill the night king. If hes buggered off down Kings landing, then the North have no chance at all besides just...running. Then maybe they all do haver to fight together, against Cerseis wishes but she will have no choice, and another huge battle with them all against TNK and his army happens in Kings landing. Mind I reckon Cersei will make people go out and kill the main characters during this. She won't fight fair. Even if it means TNK wins, she will NOT give up the throne.

There's still four more episodes to go, I reckon they will win the battle at Winterfell, only to realise there's about a million dead on the march from the South, Cersei and the Golden Company will probably escape via Euron's fleet, but I dunno if I could see her teaming up with Winterfell.

user104658
23-04-2019, 12:16 PM
I can't see that happening, it'd be too neatly tied up, the first scene of GoT was about the white walkers, they've always been the true threat.

I think we're going to see a sizable portion of the dead attack Winterfell, while the Night King heads for King's Landing, to turn the city. These past few seasons have been littered with hints about it, telling us how more people live in KL than the whole North of Westeros.

The issue there is that it's been confirmed that the battle of Winterfell (ep3/4) is the biggest and longest battle of the season / the show / any show which doesn't make sense if the Night King himself and a chunk of his army are headed further south to turn King's Landing into an even larger army. That would suggest an even bigger battle to come in episodes 5/6 and we know that isn't the case.

The only real way it could be true is if that final battle occurs mostly off-screen with a small "fellowship style" group going after the Night King. But that wouldn't really be Game of Thrones style tbh.

Vicky.
23-04-2019, 12:18 PM
There's still four more episodes to go, I reckon they will win the battle at Winterfell, only to realise there's about a million dead on the march from the South, Cersei and the Golden Company will probably escape via Euron's fleet, but I dunno if I could see her teaming up with Winterfell.

How will they win, when everyone who dies will be on the opposing side and the only way to kill them all at once is to stake the night king though? I would love to think they win somehow, but if the night king is on his way elsewhere, I can't see it. I also can't see all the characters currently there dying either though, so all I can think if this is whats going on, is that there is a huge battle, then they realise its impossible, as they cant find TNK so decide to leg it instead (the dead seem to take ages to move). It also kind of makes Bran/the raven even more bloody pointless, as at least it gave him purpose, if the night king would come for him..and he could be bait.

MTVN
23-04-2019, 12:22 PM
Yeah Bran confirmed that he is the main target for the NK so it wouldn't make sense for him to just stroll past Winterfell and head down to Kings Landing instead

Scarlett.
23-04-2019, 12:26 PM
The issue there is that it's been confirmed that the battle of Winterfell (ep3/4) is the biggest and longest battle of the season / the show / any show which doesn't make sense if the Night King himself and a chunk of his army are headed further south to turn King's Landing into an even larger army. That would suggest an even bigger battle to come in episodes 5/6 and we know that isn't the case.

The only real way it could be true is if that final battle occurs mostly off-screen with a small "fellowship style" group going after the Night King. But that wouldn't really be Game of Thrones style tbh.

Well, given the director who usually does the battles
is doing episode 5, there is another battle to come

I think the idea is the second battle would be unwinnable, and they have to think outside the box. I also think there is a lot more to the Night King and the Three Eyed Raven than we are lead to believe. The whole idea of the show is how pointless the Game of Thrones was, that, if people hadn't thrown away so many lives in previous battles over a chair, they could have easily won against the Night King.

Scarlett.
23-04-2019, 12:27 PM
Yeah Bran confirmed that he is the main target for the NK so it wouldn't make sense for him to just stroll past Winterfell and head down to Kings Landing instead

The Night King is also not foolish enough to walk into an obvious trap, lol.

Smithy
23-04-2019, 12:33 PM
My theory
in the original Great War against the walkers there’s no way the first men would have stopped them, so some agreement must have been made, presumably involving sacrifice to them (via Craster or whatever) over time that deal has been forgotten and broken and now they’re marching to kill everyone because the deal was broken. The NK only started collecting an army and marching AFTER Sam and Gilly escaped with the baby, before that the only time the white walkers killed was probably when wildling encroached on their territory

Well tbh, the only reason the walkers are kicking off is coz someone stole the baby sacrifice from them. I half expect a few deaths and a big fight, ending with the night king just going into the crypts, offing gilly and sam and taking what was promised to him, then leaving calmly, stepping over a few dead main characters on the way :laugh: I only just realised last night that they only started going mental when Gilly ran away with the baby :laugh:

OR, he kills Gilly, takes the baby not realising Sams down there, and Sam shoves dragonglass into his back, killing another walker and ending the war when he thought he went down there to run away. That would be mint :D

Wonder what made you realize that :fan:

Vicky.
23-04-2019, 12:41 PM
Wonder what made you realize that :fan:

Oops, I actually didn'r read that I don't think..I don't remember if I did anyway :laugh:

Was just one of those annoying things that pops into your head when you are trying to sleep and won't go away so you end up up at stupid bloody times D: I might have skim read that and my brain processed it late, or something..lol

Smithy
23-04-2019, 12:42 PM
Idg how y’all think the whole undead thing will be over after the next episode when this is what the story has been building too for seven seasons

I think the lose the battle at winterfell but take out a large chunk of the NK’s army, in the trailer for the season you see Jon and Dany at

Dragonstone, so clearly they both survive

I think the castle takes too much damage/burns down so everyone has to flee, but how/if other people make it there with them is a guess.

Maybe the NK will take the south and then ep 5 is another battle against the dead

Smithy
23-04-2019, 12:42 PM
Oops, I actually didn'r read that I don't think..I don't remember if I did anyway :laugh:

Was just one of those annoying things that pops into your head when you are trying to sleep and won't go away so you end up up at stupid bloody times D: I might have skim read that and my brain processed it late, or something..lol

:joker:

Vicky.
23-04-2019, 12:44 PM
The Night King is also not foolish enough to walk into an obvious trap, lol.

Well yes, the idea that he will just randomly be alone in the godswood ripe for the picking and TNK will fall for that is pretty ****ing stupid. BUT, he could send in a load of minions to draw out anyone around. Then strike I guess.

I don't get why he would focus on Bran, unless my earlier theory, that Bran could kind of go back in time and control the night king somehow is true. I wonder if this was meant to be 'taught' to him but the night king killed the other raven too quickly. Could be that its the raven that has kept war away, but they lose control every now and again and thats when they get killed by him or something? IDK, the whole Raven storyline is so weird, and theres so much focus on it that surely it has to be important in some way, but the only thing its done so far is kill bloody Hodor!

Smithy
23-04-2019, 12:44 PM
How will they win, when everyone who dies will be on the opposing side and the only way to kill them all at once is to stake the night king though? I would love to think they win somehow, but if the night king is on his way elsewhere, I can't see it. I also can't see all the characters currently there dying either though, so all I can think if this is whats going on, is that there is a huge battle, then they realise its impossible, as they cant find TNK so decide to leg it instead (the dead seem to take ages to move). It also kind of makes Bran/the raven even more bloody pointless, as at least it gave him purpose, if the night king would come for him..and he could be bait.

It’s not like an automatic death and then resurrection though, in hardhome it was only after Jon and that had fled that the NK resurrected then all. So if people are burning etc they won’t be easily brought back

Smithy
23-04-2019, 12:45 PM
Are we all here for bran warging into Viserion :flutter:

Nicky91
23-04-2019, 12:47 PM
The Night King is also not foolish enough to walk into an obvious trap, lol.

Nope, and btw it is like chess, Night King will definitely use his pawns (some soldiers first) for them to waste most of their dragonglass

and then the stronger army will most likely come (Giants, Night King with his dragon) still soldiers with their generals this time around



and honestly what i've noticed too in ep2, they said crypts is the safest place of winterfell like 5 times and i am thinking that isn't gonna be the safest place by far the dead starks lay there right, maybe they are gonna wake up when night king comes closer and closer to them

Vicky.
23-04-2019, 12:48 PM
It’s not like an automatic death and then resurrection though, in hardhome it was only after Jon and that had fled that the NK resurrected then all. So if people are burning etc they won’t be easily brought back

I would assume it could be..if he just kept doing whatever it is he does to raise them :suspect:

Also as the battle goes on, there will be more fallen people so he could just wait unti;l numbers are about even, then raise all the fallen from Winterfell so they are massively outnumbered again.

Honestly, I have never felt so..into a TV show, ever before. This series has me utterly hooked, even though the first couple of episodes have been a snooze really. Pretty much the only parts I have enjoyed is Brans line 'the things we do for love' when Jaime was trying to pledge allegance, and Brienne being knighted. I feel they could easily have fit the important bits into one episode and cut out the filler. However at the same time, I feel they are rushing some of the storylines a bit. So I guess they can't win with me really :laugh:

Vicky.
23-04-2019, 12:53 PM
I think the castle takes too much damage/burns down so everyone has to flee, but how/if other people make it there with them is a guess.

Maybe the NK will take the south and then ep 5 is another battle against the dead

Thats my working theory at the minute tbh. They realise they cannot win so do the sensible thing and flee, knowing the dead are slow as **** for whatever reason so it will take a while to catch up. I don't think decimating the dead army will matter much in the grand scheme of things as again, the dead from Winterfell will just be raised and fight for the other side.

After fleeing, possibly to dragonstone which would be the LAST place TNK wants to be given its a place made of stuff that can kill him (really, everyone should have just moved there, or across the sea and left this land to the dead :fan: ) so turns his attetion to KL. At which stage Cersei ****s herself a bit as this means the army she is assembling to kill Danys will have to fight the dead first. But the North lot show up during that battle and somehow it is won. Final battle, for the throne.

Just because we have been told episode 3 is the big battle, that doesn't mean theres not a hell of a lot more to come. I look forward so much to this ep because the battle of the bastards was absolutely amazing and seemed so realistic too, and apparently this one has took like twice as long (or more) to film so should be amazing.

Smithy
23-04-2019, 12:53 PM
I would assume it could be..if he just kept doing whatever it is he does to raise them :suspect:

Also as the battle goes on, there will be more fallen people so he could just wait unti;l numbers are about even, then raise all the fallen from Winterfell so they are massively outnumbered again.

Honestly, I have never felt so..into a TV show, ever before. This series has me utterly hooked, even though the first couple of episodes have been a snooze really. Pretty much the only parts I have enjoyed is Brans line 'the things we do for love' when Jaime was trying to pledge allegance, and Brienne being knighted. I feel they could easily have fit the important bits into one episode and cut out the filler. However at the same time, I feel they are rushing some of the storylines a bit. So I guess they can't win with me really :laugh:

Tbf, he’ll be riding a dragon, which takes a lot of concentration, so he might be too busy to raise them :joker:

Vicky.
23-04-2019, 12:56 PM
the dead starks lay there right, maybe they are gonna wake up when night king comes closer and closer to them

BUT can he raise any dead, or just recently deceased?

Mind the fact that they are all making out the crypts are safe as **** makes me think something will happen.

An one of the books, its mentioned that there may be dragon eggs burried under winterfell. As it seems the dragons only came into being because 'magic' grew (this is more clear in the books too IMO) so..I have a slight thought that when winterfell burns (as we know it will) the eggs will hatch, and more dragons..

Smithy
23-04-2019, 12:56 PM
Thats my working theory at the minute tbh. They realise they cannot win so do the sensible thing and flee, knowing the dead are slow as **** for whatever reason so it will take a while to catch up. I don't think decimating the dead army will matter much in the grand scheme of things as again, the dead from Winterfell will just be raised and fight for the other side.

After fleeing, possibly to dragonstone which would be the LAST place TNK wants to be given its a place made of stuff that can kill him (really, everyone should have just moved there, or across the sea and left this land to the dead :fan: ) so turns his attetion to KL. At which stage Cersei ****s herself a bit as this means the army she is assembling to kill Danys will have to fight the dead first. But the North lot show up during that battle and somehow it is won. Final battle, for the throne.

Just because we have been told episode 3 is the big battle, that doesn't mean theres not a hell of a lot more to come. I look forward so much to this ep because the battle of the bastards was absolutely amazing and seemed so realistic too, and apparently this one has took like twice as long (or more) to film so should be amazing.

Yeah, episode 5 is definitely a battle too, I wouldn’t be surprised if it was as big or bigger than battle for winterfell as it will be the *final* battle for everything

Vicky.
23-04-2019, 12:58 PM
Tbf, he’ll be riding a dragon, which takes a lot of concentration, so he might be too busy to raise them :joker:

He might be riding a dragon. He doesn't need to though to control it.

Mind, given he was nowhere to be seen its likely hes chilling somewhere on Drogons back just waiting :D

Smithy
23-04-2019, 12:59 PM
He might be riding a dragon. He doesn't need to though to control it.

Mind, given he was nowhere to be seen its likely hes chilling somewhere on Drogons back just waiting :D

The good sis needs to hold on though! Concentrate on not falling off!

BBDodge
23-04-2019, 01:07 PM
The Night King is also not foolish enough to walk into an obvious trap, lol.

He's dead. Not sure if he reasons anything. Just acts according to his nature,

Niamh.
23-04-2019, 01:08 PM
Are we all here for bran warging into Viserion :flutter:

Ohhhhhh I totally forgot about the warg powers

Smithy
23-04-2019, 01:17 PM
Even Dany, the “unburnt”—the show’s quiet counterpart to the Night King, the fire to his ice, and the character who has become the hardest and most implacable in response to how badly she’s been hurt—even she turns out to have been changed by her vulnerability, letting Jon bring her to Winterfell and letting Sansa disagree with her. She’s trying to understand why Sansa doesn’t like her, so she goes to listen; she’s trying to understand why Jon is avoiding her, so she goes to listen.

She’s aRrOganT maD qUEen mAD qUEeN

https://media1.tenor.com/images/a9e748c8abfd91685d21e2a2c5fba7b2/tenor.gif?itemid=8617355




https://66.media.tumblr.com/dcb5e0d5f2b719e53126ebf755e7c9eb/tumblr_ocfox4b8Pk1v4xmxoo3_250.jpg

Scarlett.
23-04-2019, 01:18 PM
He's dead. Not sure if he reasons anything. Just acts according to his nature,

Unlike the army of Wights, the White Walkers still have intelligence, the Night King knew what he was doing when he trapped Jon Snow and the others on that island, Jon was bait for Dany and her dragons, which the Night King required to break the wall.

Smithy
23-04-2019, 01:21 PM
Unlike the army of Wights, the White Walkers still have intelligence, the Night King knew what he was doing when he trapped Jon Snow and the others on that island, Jon was bait for Dany and her dragons, which the Night King required to break the wall.

Definitely

Don’t think the Night King is dead either, we’ve never seen him die, we saw him being turned from a man, but that doesn’t mean he’s dead

Vicky.
23-04-2019, 01:31 PM
letting Jon bring her to Winterfell and letting Sansa disagree with her

The Wintefell thing, well if shes planning on ruling Westeros, there has to be a Westoros left. So she couldn't really refuse once she knew the dead were going to attack.

The Sansa thing..fairly sure if they weren't interrupted it would have ended up in another 'bend the knee!!!' convo, again she looked mightily pissed off by people not deferring to her.

Smithy
23-04-2019, 01:38 PM
The Wintefell thing, well if shes planning on ruling Westeros, there has to be a Westoros left. So she couldn't really refuse once she knew the dead were going to attack.

The Sansa thing..fairly sure if they weren't interrupted it would have ended up in another 'bend the knee!!!' convo, again she looked mightily pissed off by people not deferring to her.

Ofc she could have, Cersei did :shrug:

Well not really the difference is the Tarlys weren’t even willing to accept her the queen, the north (kind of) are but also want independence

Niamh.
23-04-2019, 01:39 PM
The Wintefell thing, well if shes planning on ruling Westeros, there has to be a Westoros left. So she couldn't really refuse once she knew the dead were going to attack.

The Sansa thing..fairly sure if they weren't interrupted it would have ended up in another 'bend the knee!!!' convo, again she looked mightily pissed off by people not deferring to her.

Yeah 100% It's odd because I really hated Sansa at the start (and for a long way through) and Dany originally was my favourite, Sansa is one of my favorites now and I dislike dany

Vicky.
23-04-2019, 01:45 PM
Yeah 100% It's odd because I really hated Sansa at the start (and for a long way through) and Dany originally was my favourite, Sansa is one of my favorites now and I dislike dany

Same :laugh:

I still cannot believe that I have ended up liking Jamie, after how he started

Niamh.
23-04-2019, 01:47 PM
Same :laugh:

I still cannot believe that I have ended up liking Jamie, after how he started

I had kind of forgot about him pushing Bran out the window though, he was like a different character completely though back then

Vicky.
23-04-2019, 01:47 PM
Ofc she could have, Cersei did :shrug:

Well she could have, but shes got more brains than Cersei and probably realises that if noone fights them, they will take over Westeros AND her beloved throne. So she has to try really. She could go down and just go for the throne, but what goods that when theres an army of dead on their way, gaining more and more fighters all the time?!

Vicky.
23-04-2019, 01:50 PM
I had kind of forgot about him pushing Bran out the window though, he was like a different character completely though back then

Yeah for sure. Losing his hand made him a much better person. Eve a bit before that I was wamring to him though. But losing a hand for stopping Brienne getting raped was..my proper turning point I think.

One part I am so glad they cut from the show was the 'dead Catelyn/Lady Stoneheart'.

Niamh.
23-04-2019, 01:57 PM
Yeah for sure. Losing his hand made him a much better person. Eve a bit before that I was wamring to him though. But losing a hand for stopping Brienne getting raped was..my proper turning point I think.

One part I am so glad they cut from the show was the 'dead Catelyn/Lady Stoneheart'.

I am still interested where GRRM was going to go with that story. Doubt he will ever bother his hole finishing the books now though

Smithy
23-04-2019, 02:06 PM
Well she could have, but shes got more brains than Cersei and probably realises that if noone fights them, they will take over Westeros AND her beloved throne. So she has to try really. She could go down and just go for the throne, but what goods that when theres an army of dead on their way, gaining more and more fighters all the time?!

So you’re saying you don’t like her because she’s trying to save Westeros, so that she can rule it? What’s wrong with that?

bots
23-04-2019, 02:15 PM
the night king wasn't killed during the last battle, so something happened there where he needed to head back north and have a kip for 1000 years. My guess is that it takes energy to animate all the dead, so there is a finite length of time he can do battle for. He will have a vulnerability, and Sam/Bran need to find out what that is. Bran is supposed to know everything, so that part would be pretty crucial i would have thought

Still think that at some point there is going to be a duel between Jon and the NK, it's written in the stars, and that will be where Jon dies.

Vicky.
23-04-2019, 02:17 PM
So you’re saying you don’t like her because she’s trying to save Westeros, so that she can rule it? What’s wrong with that?

Eh, why on earth would that alone make me not like her? I am simply giving my opinion that shes using 'Jons war' as an excuse when basically, if it did not threaten the Iron Throne, she would never have agreed to help.


I don't know why you have such an issue with people disliking her? Seems to be quite common that they started out wanting her on the throne and loving her, and now, with how the show has made her evolve...shes so unlikeable :shrug: Shes much better in the books, but I guess the books kind of go up to the part where I started disliking her, so if the books went down the arorgant and constant 'I am your ruler, don't disagree with me' route, I would have started disliking her in those too!

Smithy
23-04-2019, 02:27 PM
Eh, why on earth would that alone make me not like her? I am simply giving my opinion that shes using 'Jons war' as an excuse when basically, if it did not threaten the Iron Throne, she would never have agreed to help.


I don't know why you have such an issue with people disliking her? Seems to be quite common that they started out wanting her on the throne and loving her, and now, with how the show has made her evolve...shes so unlikeable :shrug: Shes much better in the books, but I guess the books kind of go up to the part where I started disliking her, so if the books went down the arorgant and constant 'I am your ruler, don't disagree with me' route, I would have started disliking her in those too!
Am not having it!!

https://66.media.tumblr.com/dcb5e0d5f2b719e53126ebf755e7c9eb/tumblr_ocfox4b8Pk1v4xmxoo3_250.jpg

Niamh.
23-04-2019, 02:29 PM
:skull:

https://i.imgur.com/3kngd2M.jpg?1

Lostie!
23-04-2019, 02:31 PM
:skull:

https://i.imgur.com/3kngd2M.jpg?1

:laugh2:

Brother Leon
23-04-2019, 02:58 PM
Are we all here for bran warging into Viserion :flutter:

That’s how I think the battle is decided. Here for Bran to win the war :clap1:

Brother Leon
23-04-2019, 03:05 PM
Dany being told she’s basically ****ing her nephew and all she can think about is how her claim to the throne is weaker now.... those damn Targaryens :laugh:

Niamh.
23-04-2019, 03:08 PM
Dany being told she’s basically ****ing her nephew and all she can think about is how her claim to the throne is weaker now.... those damn Targaryens :laugh:

tbf they did used to marry their siblings so nephew is nothing

user104658
23-04-2019, 03:58 PM
Dany being told she’s basically ****ing her nephew and all she can think about is how her claim to the throne is weaker now.... those damn Targaryens :laugh:

I did laugh at that :joker:

"My mother was Lyanna Stark... and my father... was Rhaegar Targaryen... your brother."

":omgno: So... ugh... so you're saying..."

"Yes, Dany... I know..."

"Y.. you..."

"Yes, I know it's repulsive, what will we..."

"You have a claim to the throne??? :fist:"

"Ye... wait, what?"

user104658
23-04-2019, 04:19 PM
http://i67.tinypic.com/5lc953.jpg

Josy
23-04-2019, 05:42 PM
I take Ice and Fire to refer to the Starks and the Targaryens, with Jon being the link.



"Aegon. What better name for a king... He is the prince that was promised, and his is the song of ice and fire"Yeah I see it as Jon being the whole 'ice and fire'

Shaun
23-04-2019, 06:08 PM
I have suddenly remembered the Lady Stoneheart arc and am desperate for ha to rise from the crypt (even if she isn't actually interned there)

Joe.
23-04-2019, 06:12 PM
Melisandre is the character that intrigues me
The most- what role will she have to play?

Josy
23-04-2019, 06:20 PM
I really enjoyed that episode, it set the scene for the battle up perfect imo even though it's sad that for quite a few of them it was most probably their last night alive.

A few of the definite deaths I think will happen during or just after the battle

Theon - I think hes definitely a goner, but it's nice (can you say that about a death? idek LOL) that he will go out fighting for the starks/winterfell and be killed attempting to defend Bran.

Jamie - Jamie's kinda served his purpose now imo, finally turning his back on Cersei leading to him fighting for the north, under Brienne etc and the scene Knighting her just made me think yeah hes done.

Jorah - Couple of scenes in this ep made me think his time is up, talking Dany into seeing sense about Tyrion when she was being a bitch about him, advising her to speak to Sansa, his conversations with both Lyanna and Sam

The Hound - I think he will die trying to save Arya or something :think:

Greyworm - The whole scene with him and Missandei talking about what they would do after Dany was on the throne just gave it away imo

Probably a few more but those are the ones I think are definite.


I think Arya will survive and she will be the one to end Cersei

I also think Tyrion will survive, just a guess but Jamie could possibly die defending him either from the battle or bron or something? :shrug:

Dany just irritates the life out me, her face when Jon told her who he really was :/
I never disliked her in the books but just found her chapters to be quite drawn out and a bit boring, I really liked her in the show in the beginning but cant stand her now, shes just turned into a power hungry bitch :idc:

Glenn.
23-04-2019, 06:31 PM
Yeah I see it as Jon being the whole 'ice and fire'

So do I. That’s why I’m convinced he will rule at the end of it all.

user104658
23-04-2019, 06:46 PM
So do I. That’s why I’m convinced he will rule at the end of it all.

It would make sense if it was GRR Martin's intention all along. He's borrowed bits and pieces from ancient philosophy and a central pillar of Plato's "Republic" (and why politics is so often broken) is that the person who is best suited to lead is usually the candidate who is the most reluctant to engage with the process of becoming the leader. That is to say, there will usually be people (like Jon) who are focussed on solving the real problems (White Walkers) and can't be bothered with the politics of it all (the "Game of Thrones"), whilst others are so busy playing the "Game" to win (Dany, Cersei, et al.) that they fail to be good leaders.

On the other hand, Martin has mostly been a realist in terms of his politics and if we're going by real world example: it IS the "game players" who end up in power whilst the real leaders are too busy solving real problems. Which is what makes me think that Jon and "a player of the game" will both survive but Jon will refuse the throne and give it away to someone else, probably Dany, who once there will realise that even though she's achieved "her life goal", it's all a bit meaningless.

Scarlett.
23-04-2019, 06:51 PM
Like episode 1, there was a homage to an earlier episode, this time the end of season 2

https://i.imgur.com/R06G4m4l.jpg

So, if these homage's were to continue... Ep. 3 will have a homage to everyone's favourite episode... The Red Wedding

Smithy
23-04-2019, 07:11 PM
https://66.media.tumblr.com/d931fd177438c3430e81f3ec65a10ee5/tumblr_pqd4hwsn6W1v7ojyo_540.jpg

Ahh Dany about to burn them ALL on Sunday, come through sis!

Josy
23-04-2019, 07:13 PM
Like episode 1, there was a homage to an earlier episode, this time the end of season 2

https://i.imgur.com/R06G4m4l.jpg

So, if these homage's were to continue... Ep. 3 will have a homage to everyone's favourite episode... The Red Wedding:omgno:

Glenn.
23-04-2019, 07:38 PM
Pregnant Dany to be butchered?

Smithy
23-04-2019, 07:58 PM
Both episodes had numerous references to previous series, it wasn’t just one reference :suspect:

DouglasS
23-04-2019, 08:02 PM
Pretty sure there is going to be a crypt massacre. The amount of foreshadowing was crazy. Will be interesting if the night king makes the dead starks (Ned, Lyanna,, Catelyn, Robb or Rickon come back to life and kill others). Especially since dany has told Tyrion to stay in the crypts make it even more likely that is the least save place to be (and after Gilly told that young girl the crypts are the safest place to be..)

People in the crypt: Tyrion, Sansa, Samwell, Gilly, Missandei, potentially Arya.

Seems something will happen there with so many main characters being there. Wouldn’t be shocked if Gilly (perhaps saving that little girl) and Missandei are butchered (one of her or Grey Worm are a goner after their cute scene). Arya is also possible to be the first massive death? I hope not.

Niamh.
23-04-2019, 08:06 PM
I doubt Arya will be in the Crypt, Gendry just made her a weapon ànd she's a trained assassin

Daniel.
23-04-2019, 08:20 PM
I want most main characters to diehttps://churchofpop.net/uploads/emoticons/evillaugh.gif

Brother Leon
23-04-2019, 08:22 PM
Ned and Robb don’t even have their heads anymore. I don’t see how them coming back from the death makes sense or would have any impact. Pretty sure there are secret tunnels and entrances into the Crypts though if I remember. That’s probably how most them down there die.

user104658
23-04-2019, 08:26 PM
Pretty sure there is going to be a crypt massacre. The amount of foreshadowing was crazy. Will be interesting if the night king makes the dead starks (Ned, Lyanna,, Catelyn, Robb or Rickon come back to life and kill others). Especially since dany has told Tyrion to stay in the crypts make it even more likely that is the least save place to be (and after Gilly told that young girl the crypts are the safest place to be..)

People in the crypt: Tyrion, Sansa, Samwell, Gilly, Missandei, potentially Arya.

Seems something will happen there with so many main characters being there. Wouldn’t be shocked if Gilly (perhaps saving that little girl) and Missandei are butchered (one of her or Grey Worm are a goner after their cute scene). Arya is also possible to be the first massive death? I hope not.

Dead Starks coming back I do think is a possibility but I feel like Ned and Robb are out of the equation, as both were beheaded... it would be a bit daft if they were running around holding their heads. I'm not even sure if Robb's body was recovered?

I doubt Arya will be in the Crypt, Gendry just made her a weapon ànd she's a trained assassin

I mean... a lot of the promo stuff featured her running around what looked like the crypts, and she seemed to be pretty scared, not sure what that's about. It only makes sense if she's being chased by a reanimated version of someone she knows, IMO. She wouldn't be scared of a random Wight or White Walker.

user104658
23-04-2019, 08:27 PM
Maybe Gendry gets killed and reanimated and comes after Arya :omgno:

DouglasS
23-04-2019, 08:30 PM
I feel Missandei dying will have a bigger impact on Dany than Grey worm going, and will make her more ‘mad’, which is why if one of them is going I reckon it’d be Missandei in the crypts. Both could be goners though

Niamh.
23-04-2019, 09:08 PM
Dead Starks coming back I do think is a possibility but I feel like Ned and Robb are out of the equation, as both were beheaded... it would be a bit daft if they were running around holding their heads. I'm not even sure if Robb's body was recovered?







I mean... a lot of the promo stuff featured her running around what looked like the crypts, and she seemed to be pretty scared, not sure what that's about. It only makes sense if she's being chased by a reanimated version of someone she knows, IMO. She wouldn't be scared of a random Wight or White Walker.Oh I don't watch the previews, I like the surprise

Josy
23-04-2019, 09:09 PM
Oh I don't watch the previews, I like the surpriseI dont either lol

I dont see what the point of dead starks would be but I guess it could be interesting to see :think:

armand.kay
23-04-2019, 09:15 PM
Brianne is not just dead she is SUPER dead like I'm literally not ready for this! grey worm is also a goner I'm- :omgno:

armand.kay
23-04-2019, 09:16 PM
Oh I don't watch the previews, I like the surprise

not saying you should but who ever edits them is amazing at getting you hype for the next episode without really revealing anything.

Josy
23-04-2019, 09:17 PM
I always have to watch the show after recording it and never see a preview, where do they air?

armand.kay
23-04-2019, 09:26 PM
I always have to watch the show after recording it and never see a preview, where do they air?

i don't think they air in the uk i normally have to search for it on youtube

Josy
23-04-2019, 09:53 PM
i don't think they air in the uk i normally have to search for it on youtubeAh right thanks

user104658
23-04-2019, 10:31 PM
Brianne is not just dead she is SUPER dead like I'm literally not ready for this! grey worm is also a goner I'm- :omgno:

Yeah I think Brienne is in trouble. She got knighted, and there was a tonne of foreshadowing with Jaime commenting on how far Podrick has come with his fighting and Brienne saying that she still has things to teach him. I suspect Brienne will die and Podrick will survive (and she'll never get to finish his training :bawling: ).

Smithy
23-04-2019, 10:33 PM
Yeah I think Brienne is in trouble. She got knighted, and there was a tonne of foreshadowing with Jaime commenting on how far Podrick has come with his fighting and Brienne saying that she still has things to teach him. I suspect Brienne will die and Podrick will survive (and she'll never get to finish his training :bawling: ).

I think it’ll be the other way round, she’ll survive and he’ll die

BBDodge
24-04-2019, 01:01 AM
I doubt Arya will be in the Crypt, Gendry just made her a weapon ànd she's a trained assassin

And I feel her destiny will involve a return to King's Landing to settle one final score, possibly wearing the mask of the dead Jamie.

Brother Leon
24-04-2019, 01:51 AM
Jaime and Tyrion are safe. We need to have the whole Bronn assassin story play out.

My death predictions for now:

Greyworm
Theon
Podrick
Brianne
Jorah
Davos

bots
24-04-2019, 04:32 AM
Jamie and Bri are going to be fighting side by side, one of them is going to come to the heroic rescue of the other at some point and die in the process. I think i'm going to have to order in some sedatives for Sunday night :laugh:

Shaun
24-04-2019, 04:41 AM
if i see one more bitch typo Brienne

user104658
24-04-2019, 06:38 AM
Jamie and Bri are going to be fighting side by side, one of them is going to come to the heroic rescue of the other at some point and die in the process. I think i'm going to have to order in some sedatives for Sunday night [emoji23]And with GoT being GoT, it's more likely to be Brienne saving Jaime so that he can be crippled with guilt forever :joker:.

Niamh.
24-04-2019, 08:55 AM
And I feel her destiny will involve a return to King's Landing to settle one final score, possibly wearing the mask of the dead Jamie.

Well, she's my favourite character so I'd like her to survive the whole thing but that wouldn't be bad either if she died after killing Cersei

Niamh.
24-04-2019, 08:57 AM
And with GoT being GoT, it's more likely to be Brienne saving Jaime so that he can be crippled with guilt forever :joker:.

I think it will be this way aswell ^ From the first time we saw her and her whole theme throughout the show was her being someones protector so her dying doing that would fit I think, especially since she's now a Knight

Vicky.
24-04-2019, 09:05 AM
Pretty sure there is going to be a crypt massacre. The amount of foreshadowing was crazy. Will be interesting if the night king makes the dead starks (Ned, Lyanna,, Catelyn, Robb or Rickon come back to life and kill others). Especially since dany has told Tyrion to stay in the crypts make it even more likely that is the least save place to be (and after Gilly told that young girl the crypts are the safest place to be..)

People in the crypt: Tyrion, Sansa, Samwell, Gilly, Missandei, potentially Arya.

Seems something will happen there with so many main characters being there. Wouldn’t be shocked if Gilly (perhaps saving that little girl) and Missandei are butchered (one of her or Grey Worm are a goner after their cute scene). Arya is also possible to be the first massive death? I hope not.

Could actually see all of those going in one swoop. Along with a fair few 'main fighters'. I am still quite convinced Arya will be the one to kill Cersei just using Jamies face. Else what on earth was the many faced god nonsense about, surely not just so she could kill a couple of Freys who noone really cares about anyway :idc: So she can't die. She could be running towards the crypts rather than away from something there? Could have clicked onto it not being the brightest of ideas to leave the most vulnerable (including her sister) down there, or something.

Vicky.
24-04-2019, 09:08 AM
Jaime and Tyrion are safe. We need to have the whole Bronn assassin story play out.


Don't really need both of them for that. Would be better with both, but one would do.

Niamh.
24-04-2019, 09:09 AM
Could actually see all of those going in one swoop. Along with a fair few 'main fighters'. I am still quite convinced Arya will be the one to kill Cersei just using Jamies face. Else what on earth was the many faced god nonsense about, surely not just so she could kill a couple of Freys who noone really cares about anyway :idc: So she can't die. She could be running towards the crypts rather than away from something there? Could have clicked onto it not being the brightest of ideas to leave the most vulnerable (including her sister) down there, or something.

I cared about the Freys, that was a great scene :oh:

Vicky.
24-04-2019, 09:12 AM
I cared about the Freys, that was a great scene :oh:

Oh I enjoyed the scene, don't get me wrong. But had forgotten the Freys pretty much entirely after my utter rage at them for the red wedding, forgot them within a few weeks really :laugh:

What I meant was, surely there is more reason for the large chunk of story going on the bravos stuff, than her just killing the Freys. I know they killed her family and all, but thats not enough for such devoted time given to creating a certain storyline, surely.

bots
24-04-2019, 09:13 AM
i think everyone is forgetting that the dead are in tombs in the crypt, their bones arent just lying around :laugh: They aren't going to punch their way through concrete when one couldnt get out of a box all the way from the north to kings landing

Vicky.
24-04-2019, 09:18 AM
i think everyone is forgetting that the dead are in tombs in the crypt, their bones arent just lying around :laugh: They aren't going to punch their way through concrete when one couldnt get out of a box all the way from the north to kings landing

Hmm yes. I still see trouble for those crypts though, just with how they have been built up as safe, if nothing else

Maybe they all just die then, after the castle is set alight and the floors cave in and the crypts are no more then, or something :idc:

Otherwise its basically a list given of a few prominent characters guaranteed to be safe? Which seems, daft.

Niamh.
24-04-2019, 09:21 AM
Oh I enjoyed the scene, don't get me wrong. But had forgotten the Freys pretty much entirely after my utter rage at them for the red wedding, forgot them within a few weeks really :laugh:

What I meant was, surely there is more reason for the large chunk of story going on the bravos stuff, than her just killing the Freys. I know they killed her family and all, but thats not enough for such devoted time given to creating a certain storyline, surely.

I don't know, I mean personally I don't think she's going to die in this battle and she will carry on to Kings Landing but I don't think GRRM would shy away from killing her now either. Look at Ned Stark, Robb etc, they all seemed at their peak. Oh and Margaery she seemed like she had more to come too. The story was spread out so much and building up over such a long period of time, all the main separated characters had to be doing something while they were away

bots
24-04-2019, 09:22 AM
expect the unexpected is the order of the day. Who in their right mind thinks that Theon is the best person to protect Bran out in the open, given they know the NK is after him and his survival is key to the future of mankind :joker:

Niamh.
24-04-2019, 09:24 AM
I know I was thinking that too BOTS :skull:

Vicky.
24-04-2019, 09:42 AM
Someone may have posted this in here, as its potentially important and I haven't read all posts, but given I was refreshing myself with the visions early in the show...

https://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/House_of_the_Undying

The Slim Reaper
24-04-2019, 01:12 PM
Well tbh, the only reason the walkers are kicking off is coz someone stole the baby sacrifice from them. I half expect a few deaths and a big fight, ending with the night king just going into the crypts, offing gilly and sam and taking what was promised to him, then leaving calmly, stepping over a few dead main characters on the way :laugh: I only just realised last night that they only started going mental when Gilly ran away with the baby :laugh:

OR, he kills Gilly, takes the baby not realising Sams down there, and Sam shoves dragonglass into his back, killing another walker and ending the war when he thought he went down there to run away. That would be mint :D

That's not the case though. Mance Rayder was able to bring the wildling clans together because of what the dead were doing and their need to get south of the wall. All of that was way before Sam was born.

Smithy
25-04-2019, 08:30 AM
Not a spoiler, just quite a bit post, someone’s theory on the whole thing and I’m snatched

Anyone becoming the Night King or Queen doesn't make sense to me. This story is suppose to be worth telling because it's leading us towards the end. The prophecy is a prophecy for a reason. It's not history. The previous heroes must have failed, because the long nights still came. I think these character are meant to break the cycle and break the wheel if you will. So they'll restore the Earth to how it was before the WWs creation.

Azor Ahai.

I think technically we already know who it is and its staring us in the face. It's Daenerys and Lightbringer are her Dragons. She had to sacrifice her love [Nissa Nissa] to hatch her Dragons from stone. That's why they put her Dragons on the astrolobe in the credits, right underneath the red/bleeding comet. She's depicted as a Mother of Dragons, literally reborn from smoke. It all fits perfectly.

All those signs of "Snow" in Melisandre and Stannis' visions are literal IMO. Jon's real name is not Snow, it's Targaryen. He was brought back with fire magic. Melisandre's fire is light, unlike the ice magic used by the NK. Its the WWs that bring snow and darkness. That's what they're seeing in their visions; Winter snow blanketing the world. It's gonna get freezing cold before it get warm. Jon Snow is represented as a blue flower growing from a wall of ice in Dany's vision, not as snow.

Jon Snow was reborn as well, quite literally. But so was Beric Dondarrion, so i'm not sure that means anything. It wasn't his own miracle, like Daenerys' rebirth. Daenerys used her own instinctive magic. That is what GRRM said, that she used magic. She did something that was never done before. So I think Jon Snow serves to be simply a POV character in the north and as the voice of reason in the plot. His heritage is important because it's important to Daenerys' story arc. She will be faced with a choice.

In the House of the undying she's called "Slayer of Lies" (fAegon in the books) and "Bride of Fire" (because she's marrying another Targaryen? Jon? Or because she's literally married to the element). They tell her she'll light three fires (Funeral Pyre, Vaes Dothrak, ?), ride three mounts (Drogo? to Bed, Hizdar? to Dread, Jon? to Love) and know three treasons (Viserys for gold?, Mirri Maz Duur for blood?, Jorah for love?). I'm not sure about the treasons, they can be interpreted in many ways. I think these three makes sense because they had the biggest impact on her story so far. I'm not sure about the third fire either. Maybe we'll see it this season.

In the House of the undying they also tell her she'll live through "winter, summer, then winter again". It could mean she manages to save the world and witness the changing of seasons.

The tragedy may be that she will not sit the Iron Throne despite her efforts. She might have to burn down as much as she can in order to rid the world of those ice demons. Fire purifies. She will probably resolve to content herself with what's left. A ravaged Westeros and dead friends. It would be bittersweet considering all she'd have lost, but at least the world would be saved.

https://media.tenor.com/images/65ebfd37029c417e30225de891fd9aa0/tenor.gif

Niamh.
25-04-2019, 08:54 AM
An Interesting theory and quite possible but I still think Jon is the important one :think: or maybe they both are or maybe their baby will be? hhmm

Smithy
25-04-2019, 08:57 AM
She’s barren and he’s (technically) dead, I’d be annoyed if they ended up having a kid bc they made such a big deal about Dany NEVER having children

Niamh.
25-04-2019, 09:02 AM
I thought the conversation that her and Jon had about her not being able to have kids and Jon saying maybe the person who told her that wasn't a reliable source was a bit of foreshadowing that she might be able to

Smithy
25-04-2019, 09:51 AM
If she was I bet they’d give her **** ending and kill her off during child birth and I am not here for it

Niamh.
25-04-2019, 09:53 AM
If she was I bet they’d give her **** ending and kill her off during child birth and I am not here for it

The Dragon has 3 heads.....three Targaryens, Dany, Jon and their child :o

BBDodge
25-04-2019, 09:59 AM
The Dragon has 3 heads.....three Targaryens, Dany, Jon and their child :o

Gendry's of Targaryen descent too.

Smithy
25-04-2019, 10:02 AM
The Dragon has 3 heads.....three Targaryens, Dany, Jon and their child :o
I think people look into that one too much :suspect:
Gendry's of Targaryen descent too.

How? :o

Niamh.
25-04-2019, 10:05 AM
Gendry's of Targaryen descent too.

He's of Bartheon decent

bots
25-04-2019, 10:07 AM
The red witch said that she would be back one last time where she would die too, so that has all to play out yet. So much has got to be resolved that i just dont see the NK being a viable threat after the next episode.

Also everyone seems to be assuming there will be an almighty cull of the main characters, i'm not so sure now. The story maintains its interest with the majority of the main players still alive. So, we may get one or two that we love falling, but in terms of key players, i think most will make it to the end

BBDodge
25-04-2019, 10:19 AM
I think people look into that one too much :suspect:


How? :o

Descended from Rhaella Targaryen, the daughter of King Aegon V.

Jon & Dany are descended from Rhaella's older brother (and older sister - there was plenty of incest around then too).

Niamh.
25-04-2019, 10:22 AM
Descended from Rhaella Targaryen, the daughter of King Aegon V.

Jon & Dany are descended from Rhaella's older brother (and older sister - there was plenty of incest around then too).

Have they even mentioned that in the show though? If not then it's probably not important to the story

BBDodge
25-04-2019, 10:42 AM
Have they even mentioned that in the show though? If not then it's probably not important to the story

Well it's through the female line so Robert, Stannis and Renly (and their father) were always of House Baratheon, not Targaryen.

Gendry isn't of any House unless legitimised. I think only Arya knows of his parentage anyway. And Mr Knowall Bran, of course.

Niamh.
25-04-2019, 10:43 AM
Well it's through the female line so Robert, Stannis and Renly (and their father) were always of House Baratheon, not Targaryen.

Gendry isn't of any House unless legitimised. I think only Arya knows of his parentage anyway. And Mr Knowall Bran, of course.

Would be kind of funny if Gendry was the one who ended up on the throne tbf though :laugh:

Josy
25-04-2019, 10:47 AM
Would be kind of funny if Gendry was the one who ended up on the throne tbf though [emoji23]King Gendry and Queen Arya to rule?

Niamh.
25-04-2019, 10:48 AM
King Gendry and Queen Arya to rule?

:worship:

Smithy
25-04-2019, 10:54 AM
Descended from Rhaella Targaryen, the daughter of King Aegon V.

Jon & Dany are descended from Rhaella's older brother (and older sister - there was plenty of incest around then too).

Oh, that’s just fan speculation though, they’re not going to put another Targaryen in there that late in the game I don’t think. It would be a bit cheap to repeat the same sort of thing with Bran just popping up “oh yeah, you’re a Targaryen too btw”

user104658
26-04-2019, 06:41 AM
Oh, that’s just fan speculation though, they’re not going to put another Targaryen in there that late in the game I don’t think. It would be a bit cheap to repeat the same sort of thing with Bran just popping up “oh yeah, you’re a Targaryen too btw”https://media.giphy.com/media/gFQ4cR0vRqjuJd55mJ/giphy.gif

BBDodge
26-04-2019, 08:44 AM
Oh, that’s just fan speculation though, they’re not going to put another Targaryen in there that late in the game I don’t think. It would be a bit cheap to repeat the same sort of thing with Bran just popping up “oh yeah, you’re a Targaryen too btw”

There's also fan speculation that Tyrion is the Mad King's bastard.

As in the real world the royal houses like to interbreed, not always officially.

Niamh.
26-04-2019, 09:03 AM
There's also fan speculation that Tyrion is the Mad King's bastard.

As in the real world the royal houses like to interbreed, not always officially.

That was very much hinted in the books but they've not let any kind of clues leading towards that in the TV Show so I think even if it was going to be a plot twist in the book I doubt they're going to bring it into the TV Show

The Slim Reaper
26-04-2019, 09:15 AM
If you need any more evidence that Jon will end up the winner, then look at this

https://i.redd.it/tl5lxjgdagu21.jpg

Niamh.
26-04-2019, 09:19 AM
:laugh2:

Scarlett.
26-04-2019, 02:35 PM
I can't see where this would fit in the show, lol
eTkxsPBTrnk

user104658
26-04-2019, 02:40 PM
I can't see where this would fit in the show, lol
eTkxsPBTrnk

Is that T Pain? :think:

Should just have gone with this :joker:;

HIltA55GbRA

Scarlett.
26-04-2019, 02:42 PM
Just found out its from an album of Various Artists who have done GoT style songs
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QBDP5ZB?tag=smarturl-pivot-20

user104658
26-04-2019, 02:49 PM
Just found out its from an album of Various Artists who have done GoT style songs
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07QBDP5ZB?tag=smarturl-pivot-20

This sounds so awful that I'm just going to flat out pretend that it doesn't exist. Like the 2014 Band Aid single.

Scarlett.
26-04-2019, 02:52 PM
This sounds so awful that I'm just going to flat out pretend that it doesn't exist. Like the 2014 Band Aid single.

It could have been good if they were less like modern music and more like Florence's version of Jenny of Oldstones.

user104658
26-04-2019, 03:00 PM
It could have been good if they were less like modern music and more like Florence's version of Jenny of Oldstones.

This is false GoT should get like... a symphonic metal soundtrack or summat. Nightwish or summink :joker:.

iXhdzuyMmoo

Scarlett.
26-04-2019, 03:04 PM
This is false GoT should get like... a symphonic metal soundtrack or summat. Nightwish or summink :joker:.

iXhdzuyMmoo

That just reminded me of the most out of place song in the show
bhwTG6RsY8k

user104658
26-04-2019, 03:10 PM
That just reminded me of the most out of place song in the show
bhwTG6RsY8k

:joker: I actually thought the comic timing of that in the end credits was genius.

BUT wait! The final episode could close with...

EB32uwVNBLs

Dragonforce :omgno:. And it would have like... Jon Snow riding along on a dragon, standing up, melting everyone's faces clean off with a guitar solo, Tyrion on drums just going ****ing nuts. I'm so here for it.

Scarlett.
26-04-2019, 03:15 PM
:joker: I actually thought the comic timing of that in the end credits was genius.

BUT wait! The final episode could close with...

EB32uwVNBLs

Dragonforce :omgno:. And it would have like... Jon Snow riding along on a dragon, standing up, melting everyone's faces clean off with a guitar solo, Tyrion on drums just going ****ing nuts. I'm so here for it.

I agree, when that song played I actually laughed lol

I do have to wonder what song they actually will end on. Tyrion on the drums sounds amazing, the Night King will just be playing icicles like a piano

user104658
26-04-2019, 03:19 PM
Tyrion on the drums sounds amazing, the Night King will just be playing icicles like a piano

Cercei doing some vocals. Dany can play bass.

That's how it ends. They decide not to have a war after all, and form an epic gothic metal band, and unite the seven kingdoms with a huge festival.

The twist no one saw coming.

Scarlett.
26-04-2019, 03:22 PM
Cercei doing some vocals. Dany can play bass.

That's how it ends. They decide not to have a war after all, and form an epic gothic metal band, and unite the seven kingdoms with a huge festival.

The twist no one saw coming.

But, Bronn was having a crafty cig beneath Kings Landing, and accidentally ignites the wildfire killing everyone

user104658
26-04-2019, 03:24 PM
But, Bronn was having a crafty cig beneath Kings Landing, and accidentally ignites the wildfire killing everyone

b9434BoGkNQ

THE END

BBDodge
26-04-2019, 05:11 PM
Cercei doing some vocals. Dany can play bass.

That's how it ends. They decide not to have a war after all, and form an epic gothic metal band, and unite the seven kingdoms with a huge festival.

The twist no one saw coming.

Bring Ser Ilyn Payne back to play guitar.

Shaun
26-04-2019, 05:19 PM
I assume we all riot if Lady Lyanna Mormont dies

bots
26-04-2019, 06:28 PM
I assume we all riot if Lady Lyanna Mormont dies

She will grab the sword off her uncle when he dies and lop the NK's head off

reece(:
26-04-2019, 06:32 PM
This is amazing :nono:

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bots
26-04-2019, 06:35 PM
This is amazing :nono:



yeah it just evokes so much from GoT

Scarlett.
26-04-2019, 06:51 PM
I assume we all riot if Lady Lyanna Mormont dies

If she lives, I think Ser Jorah will die :(

BBDodge
26-04-2019, 07:09 PM
She will grab the sword off her uncle when he dies and lop the NK's head off

Her uncle died a few seasons ago. Ser Jorah is her cousin.

Hope she survives. And him.

Niamh.
26-04-2019, 07:36 PM
If she lives, I think Ser Jorah will die :(I think Jorah will die next episode

Amy Jade
26-04-2019, 07:39 PM
I assume we all riot if Lady Lyanna Mormont dies

Praying for her :worry:

user104658
26-04-2019, 09:59 PM
If she lives, I think Ser Jorah will die :(i think jorah is a definite death to be honest, he got his final scene with Dany telling her she should trust Tyrion etc... So I get the impression he's not going to be around much longer :umm2:

Niamh.
26-04-2019, 10:02 PM
Also the scene with Sam

user104658
26-04-2019, 11:34 PM
He got bonus time anyway he was on the brink of dying like 3 seasons ago :joker:

Epic.
26-04-2019, 11:37 PM
I've been so busy this week I didn't even notice this big battle's coming in only two more nights :worry:

BBDodge
26-04-2019, 11:47 PM
He got bonus time anyway he was on the brink of dying like 3 seasons ago :joker:

Jon actually did die but he will survive this week.

I hope The Hound survives too, despite being left for dead years ago.

reece(:
27-04-2019, 12:03 AM
#Pray4Brienne
#Pray4Davos
#Pray4Jorah

Niamh.
27-04-2019, 12:49 AM
Jon actually did die but he will survive this week.



I hope The Hound survives too, despite being left for dead years ago.He was talking about Jorah not Jon

Niamh.
27-04-2019, 12:50 AM
#Pray4Brienne
#Pray4Davos
#Pray4JorahAll dead I think, only maybe survivor is Davos

Epic.
27-04-2019, 12:58 AM
#Pray4Brienne
#Pray4Davos
#Pray4Jorah

#Pray4Tormund
#Pray4Podrick

bots
27-04-2019, 07:09 AM
would be funny if the producers thought lets make episode 3 another build up episode :laugh:

BBDodge
27-04-2019, 08:05 AM
He was talking about Jorah not Jon

I know. I was talking about other supposedly dead characters that got extra time.

user104658
27-04-2019, 09:49 AM
#Pray4Tormund

#Pray4PodrickI'm convinced that only one of Brienne or Podrick will die and also I'm like 9/10 that it will be Brienne :worry:.

The two have been together for so long, it's far more of an "emotional payoff" if one survives and we get to see their reaction to the other dying. Reason I think it'll almost certainly be Brienne is that they tied up her story arc in ep 2 and she made the comment about Podrick still having plenty to learn, so it'll be like, actually she has trained him well and he can stand on his own feet as a warrior now and "carry her torch" once she's gone.

Smithy
27-04-2019, 10:04 AM
Can y’all imagine Cersei’s face if the night king rocked up at King’s landing with mammoths :skull:

Smithy
27-04-2019, 10:54 AM
Episode is in circulation but hasn’t leaked yet there’s a screenshot floating around of...

(Minor spoiler)

where...one character has turned to a wight and is eating/attacking another character.

Fetch The Bolt Cutters
27-04-2019, 11:00 AM
Can y’all imagine Cersei’s face if the night king rocked up at King’s landing with mammoths :skull:

Gjkhgh

Shaun
27-04-2019, 01:43 PM
I really want to find that leak Smithy :worry: someone take my laptop off of me

The Slim Reaper
27-04-2019, 01:53 PM
If anyone finds it can I get a pm? I'll do the same if my searches turn anything up.

user104658
27-04-2019, 01:54 PM
I really want to find that leak Smithy :worry: someone take my laptop off of me

I was doing the same! I actually googled it and then was like "NO! What are you doing??"

I don't want to see! :omgno:

Glenn.
27-04-2019, 01:56 PM
Omg I can’t find it

Smithy
27-04-2019, 01:57 PM
You messy fags if you end up spoiling it for yourself it’s not on me :nono:

The episode hasn’t leaked just the screenshot, I’ll post if the ep leaks tho :eyes:

Shaun
27-04-2019, 02:08 PM
I just looked on Twitter and couldn't find it, I'm not looking elsewhere :oh: only one more day to wait anyway.

bots
27-04-2019, 02:15 PM
Spoiler alert


Jon Snow hurt his right testicle riding the dragon in the first episode

user104658
27-04-2019, 05:31 PM
You messy fags if you end up spoiling it for yourself it’s not on me :nono:

The episode hasn’t leaked just the screenshot, I’ll post if the ep leaks tho :eyes:If it shows a definite death then it might as well be the whole ep and yes it will be your fault :bawling:

Smithy
27-04-2019, 07:49 PM
Im not ready for so many characters to die

https://media3.giphy.com/media/YCRs26xHMOSwo/giphy.gif

bots
28-04-2019, 09:23 AM
i'm ready, we will know the answer before first light tomorrow

Nicky91
28-04-2019, 09:25 AM
i'm ready, we will know the answer before first light tomorrow

me tomorrow evening, so have to avoid spoilers the best i can until tomorrow evening

Glenn.
28-04-2019, 11:01 AM
Where is the ****ing leak!!!!!

Nicky91
28-04-2019, 11:44 AM
The Night King's powers of resurrecting people from the dead is what we already had seen

ozkHwFG91AIhe can bring back the dead very easily, raising his arms as shown here at battle of hardhome

Smithy
28-04-2019, 11:47 AM
Nicky stop putting **** in spoilers when it’s not a spoiler, it just makes it confusing af and people click real spoilers accidentally

Glenn.
28-04-2019, 11:47 AM
We know Nicky

Smithy
28-04-2019, 11:47 AM
Where is the ****ing leak!!!!!

Last time it was about 4pm

Glenn.
28-04-2019, 11:47 AM
And oh my god I’ve just seen the screenshot of the character who dies.

Smithy
28-04-2019, 11:49 AM
Silly boy

Daniel.
28-04-2019, 11:49 AM
And oh my god I’ve just seen the screenshot of the character who dies.

PM me sis i cant wait

Glenn.
28-04-2019, 11:49 AM
Have you seen it?

Smithy
28-04-2019, 11:57 AM
Have you seen it?

If this was @ me no I haven’t

bots
28-04-2019, 12:45 PM
just over 12 hours :worry:

Jessica.
28-04-2019, 12:53 PM
I'm so excited

reece(:
28-04-2019, 12:54 PM
I have my countdown app on :hehe:

Nicky91
28-04-2019, 01:34 PM
I have my countdown app on :hehe:

TcJ-wNmazHQ

Babayaro.
28-04-2019, 06:57 PM
This has the feel of a season finale :worry:

Babayaro.
28-04-2019, 06:58 PM
I'll be getting up earlier for work tomorrow at 6 purely to watch this. There's no way I'd make it through the day spoiler-free :laugh:

Babayaro.
28-04-2019, 07:01 PM
Episode is in circulation but hasn’t leaked yet there’s a screenshot floating around of...

(Minor spoiler)

where...one character has turned to a wight and is eating/attacking another character.

Bye :skull:

user104658
28-04-2019, 07:05 PM
This has the feel of a season finale :worry:It will be the series finale for some characters :worry:

Shaun
28-04-2019, 07:21 PM
I just found what some are saying is a "leaked shot of [character] as a wight" and it's fake lol, it's literally taken from another movie.

Jorah Mormont's actor - Iain Glen - was in Resident Evil: The Final Chapter, and the screenshot is of him (or his clone) being eaten by vampire / zombies, one of whom has Missandei's hairstyle :laugh:

If this is a completely different "leak" then ignore me and don't explain the real one to me lol :skull:

Epic.
28-04-2019, 07:30 PM
I'll be getting up earlier for work tomorrow at 6 purely to watch this. There's no way I'd make it through the day spoiler-free :laugh:

Wow this is exactly what I decided on doing after much deliberation too!

reece(:
28-04-2019, 07:36 PM
I'm so excited for tonight's ep I have a bottle of wine ready

ima be distraught if my faves are killed :worry:

Jordan.
28-04-2019, 07:40 PM
I'm so excited for tonight's ep I have a bottle of wine ready

ima be distraught if my faves are killed :worry:

That bottle about to turn into a barrel?

Babayaro.
28-04-2019, 07:40 PM
Wow this is exactly what I decided on doing after much deliberation too!

Lol it has to be done! Im just glad that I'm not starting any earlier than 10 bc there would be no way I'd get up at 4/5 to watch it


vv excited now

Mokka
28-04-2019, 07:40 PM
I'm so excited for tonight's ep I have a bottle of wine ready

ima be distraught if my faves are killed :worry:

I have a bottle or two in the cupboard... i may just join you

Babayaro.
28-04-2019, 08:05 PM
Bronn's going to stroll into Winterfell just as the battle begins, isn't he :(

Marsh.
28-04-2019, 08:08 PM
I just found what some are saying is a "leaked shot of [character] as a wight" and it's fake lol, it's literally taken from another movie.

Jorah Mormont's actor - Iain Glen - was in Resident Evil: The Final Chapter, and the screenshot is of him (or his clone) being eaten by vampire / zombies, one of whom has Missandei's hairstyle :laugh:

If this is a completely different "leak" then ignore me and don't explain the real one to me lol :skull:

Smithy spreading fakes again. :bored:

reece(:
28-04-2019, 08:21 PM
That bottle about to turn into a barrel?
Let's just say Brienne better live!

I have a bottle or two in the cupboard... i may just join you

They are treating it as a feature film, as am I :hehe:

Smithy
29-04-2019, 12:59 AM
Oh girls I’m shaking!

Smithy
29-04-2019, 01:21 AM
This is too ducking TENSE

reece(:
29-04-2019, 01:31 AM
It's so dark </3

Smithy
29-04-2019, 01:48 AM
Lyanna

https://media1.tenor.com/images/fa8f77f822cc0789268e9a25b3d8cea4/tenor.gif?itemid=5053575

Daniel.
29-04-2019, 01:48 AM
Soooo good so far but im anxious

reece(:
29-04-2019, 01:52 AM
Little Lyanna RIP sweeti

Smithy
29-04-2019, 02:07 AM
****ing screaming at the tv for her to fly away

Ninastar
29-04-2019, 02:29 AM
Is greyworm dead or alive? My friend and I want to know

Ninastar
29-04-2019, 02:30 AM
Are you guys done yet?

Ninastar
29-04-2019, 02:30 AM
Uk peeps I mean

Smithy
29-04-2019, 02:31 AM
Nearly

Ninastar
29-04-2019, 02:31 AM
**** okay I’m glad I didn’t spoil anything

Smithy
29-04-2019, 02:32 AM
Ok it fonished

Ninastar
29-04-2019, 02:32 AM
Ndjjekrndkefie dizuen thoughts??

Smithy
29-04-2019, 02:34 AM
I’m SCALPED I was literally screaming for most of the episode

I can’t believe it just ended like that though, it felt a bit flat imo more people should have died too

Smithy
29-04-2019, 02:34 AM
I hope Rhaegal is ok :bawling:

Ninastar
29-04-2019, 02:35 AM
How many dragons are left? One or two

Ninastar
29-04-2019, 02:36 AM
I was ****ing screaming too like omg

Smithy
29-04-2019, 02:36 AM
How many dragons are left? One or two

Drogon definitely, don’t know about Rhaegal :bawling:

Glenn.
29-04-2019, 02:37 AM
He’s fine he’s in the next time trailer

Glenn.
29-04-2019, 02:38 AM
I think I don’t know my brain is ****ing mush

Smithy
29-04-2019, 02:38 AM
He’s fine he’s in the next time trailer

Oh thank ****

Glenn.
29-04-2019, 02:39 AM
How are they going to top that episode? Like seriously

Smithy
29-04-2019, 02:41 AM
Ep 5 to be an even bigger battle?

Glenn.
29-04-2019, 02:43 AM
I can’t handle another episode like that

Smithy
29-04-2019, 02:43 AM
ksTqLXLUvQ4

Rip her out root and stem dany, root and STEM!

Smithy
29-04-2019, 02:59 AM
The fact that Cersei is the final boss

I have to laugh.gif

Glenn.
29-04-2019, 03:02 AM
It’s unrealistic that so many survived

reece(:
29-04-2019, 03:49 AM
ZJ1yC3yESLQ

reece(:
29-04-2019, 04:03 AM
1122695482776547328

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5SmZZYUUAITi_D?format=jpg&name=small

Shaun
29-04-2019, 04:21 AM
I was gonna post everything in spoilers but there's no need now :laugh:

I am honestly floored, like for a good hour after that ended I was literally numb and made a cup of tea, shaking a bit, it was that tense and good. Perhaps the greatest episode of television ever, perhaps the greatest visual experience ever.

So I have to start with the moments that most had my chest pounding, or fist pumping, because these moments were epic.

1) I think it is well-documented on here that I am not a Daenerys stan. HOWEVER: Her falling off the dragon, wielding a ****ing sword that she takes off a dead Dothraki, and holding her own... as much as she could, and then my absolute HERO Jorah coming and saving her at the last second :worship: I assumed it'd be Jon saving her, I am so relieved Jorah got a final heroic moment :bawling: and was almost in bits at Daenerys/Drogon mourning him </333333

2) Arya ****ing Stark :worship: I have sat uncomfortably for the past year or two seeing all of you bitches (or most) turn on her, say she's unlikeable now, her story arc is boring, who cares about the faceless god, who cares about her assassin training: look what that bitch did :clap1: This was 100% Arya's episode for other scenes than that finale, though; her stealth in the library was the tensest moment I think I've endured on this show, and that CRUNCH against the wall that gave her the injury we saw in the trailer, was sickening (I mean in the ew not the Yas Bitch Werq sense). I know Melisandre/her was a lot of foreshadowing, but I didn't see it coming that Arya would be The One.

3) LYANNA :bawling: I actually screamed at the TV at this point. That bitch though. What a girl. (Although why was there only ONE giant? Surely there are others. Weird.)

4) Theon holding his bloody own against the whole army with a crossbow only to go and run straight at the NK after a hilariously-awkward "YOU ARE A GOOD :) MAN :) THEON :)" speech from Bran (WHO DID **** ALL, THAT LITTLE CRIPPLE). I was so sure that finale was culminating with Bran warging into the Night King himself, because why else would there be so much high-tension music with Bran and the NK locking eyes (I mean, there's no chemistry there they're not gonna ****). But no. The 3ER does nothing again.

5) I know everyone foresaw the Crypt thing happening but I really didn't think it'd be that obvious :/ and I was sure the moment Sansa unsheathed her blade, that she and Tyrion were going to kill themselves on their own terms. ALSO: Sansa/Tyrion? Where did that bloody come from?

I was so convinced early on that Brienne would be the first casualty; that scream as she was surrounded was horrifying. I know it's very "please all the fans, keep them alive" the fact that they all survived (Bri/Tormund/Jaime/Gendry/Greyworm/Hound) but still :clap1:


Off the top of my head, the casualties are:
- Melisandre
- Theon
- Dolorous Edd
- Beric Dondarrion
- Lyanna Mormont
- Jorah Mormont

Questionable (I can't remember seeing them at the end)
- Missandei
- Sam
- Gilly/baby

Surprising Survivals:
- Greyworm!!!!!
- Gendry
- Varys
- Tormund

Mokka
29-04-2019, 04:40 AM
I screamed at the TV the entire episode ... but it might have been the wine doing that (thanks reece for that idea).

I feel like all I want to say right now is I KNEW ARYA WOULD SAVE THEM ALL FROM BOOK ONE.
I never had any doubt. And ... and... and... I think that for all if you thinking her and Gentry's sex scene wasn't necessary... consider who the procreation of the future King/Queen... cause I still think her story ain't over.

Babayaro.
29-04-2019, 06:44 AM
Brilliant episode, BUT

Imo, nowhere near enough main characters died

bots
29-04-2019, 06:59 AM
Arya :cheer2::dance::cheer2::dance:

What an episode

bots
29-04-2019, 07:07 AM
Also everyone seems to be assuming there will be an almighty cull of the main characters, i'm not so sure now. The story maintains its interest with the majority of the main players still alive. So, we may get one or two that we love falling, but in terms of key players, i think most will make it to the end

:hee:

Babayaro.
29-04-2019, 08:16 AM
I didn't like what they did with Sam that episode, although I guess how scared he was, was realistic.

And wtf @ Jon quite clearly seeing him on the ground struggling to fight off wights, but just keeps on walking past :joker:

bots
29-04-2019, 08:19 AM
I didn't like what they did with Sam that episode, although I guess how scared he was, was realistic.

And wtf @ Jon quite clearly seeing him on the ground struggling to fight off wights, but just keeps on walking past :joker:

greyworm was ****ting a brick too, i wouldn't blame any of them for pooping their pants :laugh:

BBDodge
29-04-2019, 08:23 AM
It’s unrealistic that so many survived

Yes, the defenders died in their tens of thousands but those characters on the highest wages all survived.

Ammi
29-04-2019, 09:29 AM
...oh my ...and breathe ...Arya...:lovedup:....

The Slim Reaper
29-04-2019, 09:35 AM
Yes, the defenders died in their tens of thousands but those characters on the highest wages all survived.

Capitalism the movie.

Ammi
29-04-2019, 09:42 AM
...I guess they paid them until the end of the season so good to get the most out of those pennies..?...

Ammi
29-04-2019, 09:43 AM
...minimum wage defenders though....pfffft with their zero hour contracts...coming over here...etc etc...

Smithy
29-04-2019, 09:44 AM
...I guess they paid them until the end of the season so good to get the most out of those pennies..?...

They get paid by episode :laugh:

Ammi
29-04-2019, 09:47 AM
They get paid by episode :laugh:

...I hope Arya got a little bonus for that episode..:flutter:...

bots
29-04-2019, 10:01 AM
The women completely stole the show, they were the true heroes I think

The Slim Reaper
29-04-2019, 10:09 AM
I think Sansa might want to have a little chat about the north again, in the next episode.

The Slim Reaper
29-04-2019, 10:13 AM
NK's last words

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5T400PW0AASg7H.jpg

Ammi
29-04-2019, 10:18 AM
...and there ended her lesson to Sansa...yep, it’s the pointy end..just pop that end in...

bots
29-04-2019, 10:41 AM
Did anyone notice that the circle of dead that Theon killed all around him created the symbol that the NK kept drawing

The Slim Reaper
29-04-2019, 10:45 AM
One serious point about strategy; everyone knew how big the NK's army was, so why did they send out a couple of thousand dothraki to face them? Would have made more sense to stick together.

The Slim Reaper
29-04-2019, 10:46 AM
...and there ended her lesson to Sansa...yep, it’s the pointy end..just pop that end in...

I think Ramsay had already given her that lesson.

reece(:
29-04-2019, 11:02 AM
I screamed at the TV the entire episode ... but it might have been the wine doing that (thanks reece for that idea).

I feel like all I want to say right now is I KNEW ARYA WOULD SAVE THEM ALL FROM BOOK ONE.
I never had any doubt. And ... and... and... I think that for all if you thinking her and Gentry's sex scene wasn't necessary... consider who the procreation of the future King/Queen... cause I still think her story ain't over.

A true feature film experience :clap1:

reece(:
29-04-2019, 11:02 AM
They get paid by episode :laugh:

miss Melisandre must be costly

Ramsay
29-04-2019, 11:21 AM
So good I'm emotionally wrecked after that

Daniel.
29-04-2019, 11:29 AM
I still can't stop thinking about it

user104658
29-04-2019, 11:34 AM
By about half an hour into the episode I was saying "Well they're ****ed - either someone assassinates the Night King or they're ALL dead".

Arya with the touchdown :clap1:

I liked the little touch with it being the same sort of "bait n switch" dagger move she demonstrated in the sparring match with Brienne. I legit thought he had killed her :omgno:.

user104658
29-04-2019, 11:40 AM
Bran (WHO DID **** ALL, THAT LITTLE CRIPPLE). I was so sure that finale was culminating with Bran warging into the Night King himself



The theory I've seen is that the NK was only vulnerable when next to the three eyed raven tree / Bran himself (something about being tied to a magic tree when he was created?) and so Bran actually knew all along that the NK had to be lured to the tree at just that moment, and knew that Arya would kill him, so he actually was "doing his thing" just by making sure that the timing was perfect and everyone was where they were meant to be, when they were meant to be there. Sort of like the Lord Of Light repeatedly resurrecting Beric because he was destined to save Arya, who was in turn destined to kill the Night King...

user104658
29-04-2019, 11:43 AM
Also no one believed me when I said that this battle would be the end of the White Walkers :hmph:.