Game of Thrones Thread

[Novo]

I don't really know a logical way how Varys would know though since it was a promise to Ned at the Tower of Joy and Ned obviously wouldn't a let it slip, think the only other person that knows about it is Howland (which is why I said before about the history of the Starks and Reeds being underestimated) but Howland has not appeared in the books or the show, (apart from the TOJ episode where they focused on him surviving) we are led to believe he is still alive (think this is why Meera is still alive and hasn't been killed off maybe an encounter is coming soon)

[Locke.]

I think the whole point of Bran and Sansa's reunion was to show how much Bran is now detached from the 'real' world and how he is becoming more and more like the Three Eyed Raven. It wasn't supposed to be emotional/touching like when Jon and Sansa met.

Bran's not the best character to watch but he is important, he'll probably end up warging one of the dragons. And he is boring a lot of the time but last season we got that brilliant episode when the Night's King attacked the cave and Hodor and Summer died, and then finally got the answer on Benjen Stark's whereabouts, and then also found out Jon is a Targaryen. There's a lot of things coming from his storyline.

Plus there is no reason for Jon to believe Varys or Littlefinger about who his parents are. He definitely wouldn't trust either of those, whereas he'll trust his brother.

[storybrooke]

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This youtuber is really good at explaining things about the show that you might have missed at first glance.

Can't wait for episode 4!

[Brother Leon]

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I love Jon and Davos :laugh:

[Natalie.]

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I love Jon and Davos :laugh:

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[Nicky91]

Dany is so annoying, each episode i find her more and more annoying :hehe:

[Brother Leon]

Great episode :clap1:

Why is Bran so ****ing creepy now tho?

Trailer for next week, Dany on Drogon yaaaaaaas

He's the Three Eyed Raven and wasn't really ready for it. He's now seen some ****ed up stuff not just in person, but in his visions too. I was a little disappointed at how he was in the reunion, but it does make sense. He's going to be huge in the war with The Night King so it will all
Be worth it.

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All in all, I enjoyed the episode. The dialogue was the best it's been for a while aside from the cringe "I thought you said you liked this man" ans "He's refusing to call me Queen" part, but I suppose the scene was showing us the difference in their entitlement so it makes sense.

[Tom4784]

It was a great episode, I loved the exchange between Jaime and Olenna and the writers basically rebooting Euron as a character between Seasons 6 and 7 continues to work really well.

[Nicky91]

i expect one of the dragons to die, cause of Qyburn's weapon, which we saw it can do major damage to dragons

[DouglasS]

Ep 3;
It's been confirmed by producers that this is the last of Ellaria Sand we'll see and she dies offscreen

[King Gizzard]

Yeah I see that weapon doing **** all lol

Something's bound to go right for Dany for once after the last 3 eps

[storybrooke]

Ep 3;
It's been confirmed by producers that this is the last of Ellaria Sand we'll see and she dies offscreen

:wavey:

good.

[King Gizzard]

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I love Jon and Davos :laugh:

That and trying to flirt with Missandei >>>

[Niamh.]

Another amazing episode :worship: Dany is getting kind of annoying alright but I feel like her speech about all the stuff she had to live through was an explanation for that in a way. I don't think she's going to go mad like her dad

[DouglasS]

It's so rushed now I reckon Melisandre will be gone for good bar an episode now, where she might bring Dany back just like she bought Jon back [Ice and Fire] - Maybe Dany will die in the season finale much alike Snow

[King Gizzard]

I just think she'll take Olenna's words about being a dragon on board and go ape **** with them on her own. Especially after she hears Olenna has died

[Nicky91]

Yeah I see that weapon doing **** all lol

Something's bound to go right for Dany for once after the last 3 eps

Qyburn is so badass, almost like a GoT version of james bond's Q :flutter: with all these weapons

[Brother Leon]

Also, Meera for MVP. Feels like She's carried Bran's big arse Around all of Westeros for the sake of the War to Come :laugh:.

I'm here for her to have a powerful marriage and alliance with someone to stay around or coming back with her father to confirm the Jon parentage.

[Niamh.]

Also, Meera for MVP. Feels like She's carried Bran's big arse Around all of Westeros for he sake of the War to Come :laugh:.

I'm here for her to have a powerful marriage and alliance with someone to stay around or coming back with her father to confirm the Jon parentage.

Has to be her propose in it imo

[Novo]

Also, Meera for MVP. Feels like She's carried Bran's big arse Around all of Westeros for the sake of the War to Come :laugh:.

I'm here for her to have a powerful marriage and alliance with someone to stay around or coming back with her father to confirm the Jon parentage.

Either that or her last purpose on the show was to carry Bran back to Winterfell and her death is imminent, I'm hoping for for Howland returning and confirming Jon's parentage though and Meera surviving, she doesn't deserve to die after saving a cripples ass since S2

[Niamh.]

He's the Three Eyed Raven and wasn't really ready for it. He's now seen some ****ed up stuff not just in person, but in his visions too. I was a little disappointed at how he was in the reunion, but it does make sense. He's going to be huge in the war with The Night King so it will all
Be worth it.

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All in all, I enjoyed the episode. The dialogue was the best it's been for a while aside from the cringe "I thought you said you liked this man" ans "He's refusing to call me Queen" part, but I suppose the scene was showing us the difference in their entitlement so it makes sense.I wonder if Bran is so emotionless with Sansa because of something he's seen her do in the future like betray Jon with little finger or something?

[Brother Leon]

I wonder if Bran is so emotionless with Sansa because of something he's seen her do in the future like betray Jon with little finger or something?

Interesting possibility. I do think he's just become cold and strange in general though. It's part of the bittersweet process of having the Starks together, but none of them are really the same..especially Bran. I guess we will know better once we see his interactions with Arya once she arrives(hopefully this season).

[Locke.]

He only mentioned seeing the past and the present in the most recent episode so I'm not sure if he will ever reach a point of seeing the future

"It means I can see everything. Everything that's ever happened to everyone. Everything that's happening right now. It's all pieces now, fragments. I need to learn to see better."

[Shaun]

It's just hard - and this is probably more of a TV viewer problem than a book reader one - to really connect with Bran's storyline now because the 58 combined seconds we got of the mythology of the Three Eyed Raven, the tree people, etc, just wasn't enough to really invest me in the story. He doesn't interest me at all.

[Jamesy]

I find it really hard to understand or feel for Bran as a character. He's had so little time in each series he doesn't feel like a character that needs any attention at all. His cold detachment towards Sansa also felt like it came out the blue, which it didn't, although because of the little airtime it's hard to understand what he's been through.

At the moment the only way I can see him being of value is helping Jon & Co with the imminent WW battle, and perhaps help with understanding the battle for the throne. Other than that, he could die in the next episode and I don't feel like it would be any major loss to the current plots.

[Adamw92]

So has anyone been unable to resist having a peak at the leaks of episode 4's script and/or episode summary?

[bots]

i'm enjoying this season a lot so far. Everything about it is just class

[Niamh.]

So has anyone been unable to resist having a peak at the leaks of episode 4's script and/or episode summary? I'm staying well away

[user104658]

I thought what they were basically getting at with Bran is that he isn't Bran Stark at all any more... He's the current incarnation of the Three Eyed Raven. He would have Bran's memories, sort of, but then, he has EVERYONE'S memories... So he isn't really that person at all. Or any person. More of an abstract (and somewhat emotionless) entity.

I think that's been written well enough for what it is... But he's not a particularly good actor, so it could be played better probably.

[Brother Leon]

So, Sky had a very interesting promo that essentially gave away a huge spoiler for next episode....

Arya returns home. They showed her sparring with Breanne

[Nicky91]

So, Sky had a very interesting promo that essentially gave away a huge spoiler for next episode....

Arya returns home.

seriously the Sansa-Arya reunion, that would already make a nice episode

[Babayaro.]

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[Smithy]

E4 has leaked online but it's LQ, just gonna wait tbh

[Locke.]

I wanted to wait but saw a few people on social media saying how great it was and knew it was just a matter of time until I saw a spoiler somewhere, so I just watched it. The quality is decent enough, it's far from HD and not quite as good as your standard tv channel, but it's pretty much just the same as the DVD screeners that come out for films during awards season.

Anyway, the episode is pretty incredible, definitely top 10 of the entire show. I'll wait until after it airs on sunday before writing anything else about it

[Glenn.]

I watched the ending of the leaked ep. Pretty amazing.

Gonna watch it in full tomorrow night in HD.

[Nicky91]

I watched the ending of the leaked ep. Pretty amazing.

Gonna watch it in full tomorrow night in HD.

why did it leak in the first place :fist:

[Glenn.]

why did it leak in the first place :fist:

Who cares?

[Nicky91]

Who cares?

me cares :smug:

[user104658]

why did it leak in the first place :fist:Probably a pelvic floor issue.

[Smithy]

It leaked bc of a HBO hack

[DouglasS]

Idk whether to watch it

[Glenn.]

Tbf I wished I had have watched it in HD. Too epic for SD

[Glenn.]

Well wasn't even standard definition, it was worse.

[user104658]

Ew why would anyone assault themselves by watching GoT in less than 720p?

Which reminds me actually. Why are 1080p copies so hard to find this season? They've always been available in the past. Hmph.

[Jamesy]

I remember many years ago when all shows I watched would be in 480p :omgno:

For what sounds like a great episode, it's best to wait an extra 24 hours and get it in HD glory. I've never seen the appeal in watching leaked episodes unless they've been leaked weeks/months in advance.

[user104658]

I remember many years ago when all shows I watched would be in 480p :omgno:

For what sounds like a great episode, it's best to wait an extra 24 hours and get it in HD glory. I've never seen the appeal in watching leaked episodes unless they've been leaked weeks/months in advance.I remember getting Season 1 of Lost in 240p and thinking that was amazing :joker:. Then it was the 480p avi files that were always exactly 350mb so that you could fit two of them on one burned CD for technologically challenged friends, haha. Ahh retro piracy.

I'm suspicious that any file under 1gig will be poor quality these days :suspect:.

[Brother Leon]

Will wait to watch it. Heard very good things about the episode though.

[user104658]

I caved and watched it :laugh:... what a hypocrite...

Amazing episode, will definitely be rewatching on Monday.

Arya sparring with Brienne and at least matching her was pretty awesome, also her new "sword and dagger" fighting style with the Valerian Steel dagger, surely pretty much confirming that Arya will be taking on some White Walkers.

Also Bran confirming what I said in the thread last week; that he's not Bran any more. He remembers being Bran, but it's mixed in with all the memories of everything that's ever happened, so is meaningless.

And obviously the final battle scenes were great. Daenerys being straight up brutal and Tyrion clearly starting to question his choices. I sort of suspect he might leave with Jon?

[Smithy]

HBO have said that the leaked version differs from the final version :think:

Toy Soldier…. you're weak!!

[user104658]

HBO have said that the leaked version differs from the final version :think:

Toy Soldier…. you're weak!!Hmmm, well I'm going to watch the final version too, will report back on if it's different. I can't see why or how it would be, there are no incomplete effects or anything, all the post production is complete.

Also yes I am, but not in the way you think... It wasn't my willpower that was the problem - my wife insisted on watching it. So I'm actually just whipped :joker:

[Locke.]

HBO have said that the leaked version differs from the final version :think:

Toy Soldier…. you're weak!!

The leaked version is 45 mins and the reported time for the episode a few weeks ago was 50 mins, so maybe an extra scene in there or something.

[user104658]

The leaked version is 45 mins and the reported time for the episode a few weeks ago was 50 mins, so maybe an extra scene in there or something.If I was going to guess...

There's a scene after finding out about Highgarden where Daenerys decides that Tyrion's tactics have been crap, and asks Jon Snow what he would do next. Jon says something about how she shouldn't go burning civilians and cities with her dragons as the people will hate her for it, and not much else... Then a few scenes later, when Theon arrives back at Dragonstone, we learn that Daenerys has now suddenly left to go into battle against Jaime's Highgarden army while they are in the open in transit back to King's Landing. Presumably on Jon's advice? There's no scene that shows her leaving or even coming to the decision to do so... Which seemed a bit odd.

[Brother Leon]

Looks like either the hackers received their bribe or they were threatened with a crazy lawsuit as hey have stated they won't leak the episode after as they were meant to today.

[Shaun]

As usual this post is written as I watch the episode so excuse the trains of thought derailing

Meera :( :( :( :( :( Bran needs killing off immediately.

Fat bloke telling Arya to **** off looks really familiar. These Stark reunions are very cold aren't they? Sansa believing Arya could make it all the way back alone, but not be capable of murder, is a little bit...confusing, but sweet to see some of the old Stark relationships being thrown into new light. Hadn't even realised she wouldn't have known Rickon died :(

I really need Bran dead. Did I mention? That Bran should die? Because Bran should die.

Brienne showing up for one line <3 get that paycheck Gwendoline <3

Dragonglass cave looks lovely. Nice to hear about the Children of the Forest again since we saw **** all of 'em :idc:

holy hell, TWO brienne scenes? and one being arya/brienne? with both being badasses?!?!! i am blessed.

is Aidan Gillen being paid per "stare broodily" scene? because he's rather farcical now

*rolls eyes @ davos' "staring at her good heart" line* this isn't american pie

saw a leaked photo of Jon/Theon and they speculated that Jon kills him lol, so yay I wasn't spoiled? but boo @ still no death. I WANT DEATH. BRING ME DEATH.

:( @ them replacing the hottie who played Dickon last season

Swords and shields!!! Damn this is scary.

Hmm well I thought the point of Jon's speech to Dany was her being a bloodthirsty tyrant was stupid but ok guess not

Damn dracarys has some pipes

Bronn being the only one to think "hmm yes use that ****-off massive crossbow" :think: damn that sequence of him stumbling through the fire was good.

WHAT THE **** JUST HAPPENED?????????

[King Gizzard]

Wow

[Ninastar]

I didn't notice anything different between the leak and the ep released p

[Locke.]

Rooting for Grey Worm to die at Casterly Rock so Davos can get some action with Missandei before the Nights King arrives. This was a great throwback moment too

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[Scarlett.]

Chaos is a ladder :D

[Nicky91]

aw, so sad Jaime's plan failed to kill Dany :sad:

[Babayaro.]

Bronn :clap1:

[user104658]

Was it Bronn that saved Jaime? I want it to have been Tyrion. He was so far away. I want a scene of his little legs blurring across the battlefield like a Tom and Jerry cartoon.

[Locke.]

It's Bronn. Who thankfully doesn't wear heavy armour so won't sink like Jaime was.

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[Babayaro.]

I was hoping Bronn killed that beast

[user104658]

I was hoping Bronn killed that beastI don't think the dragon will die... I think all three need to be in play in S8. However it looked like it was hit through the "shoulder" area next to the wing so my guess would be that it's unable to fly / out of commission for a while until it heals, I.e probably the rest of this season, and she doesn't have the same level of control over the other two.

[Nicky91]

i want the dragons to live, but not Dany she's expendable for me :laugh:

[King Gizzard]

CGI with the dragons has improved so much. And just the filming overall. Better than most films I've seen (granted it's just because the budget has improved over the last couple seasons)

But that, compared to CGI horror show that was Dany first riding the dragon out of the pit..Jesus

[Tom4784]

Easily a top 3 episode, It was just flawless throughout.

ngl, I'm kind of loving Bran's deadpan savaging of everyone he meets. I'm getting tired of waiting for him to tell SOMEONE about John's heritage, the advancement of the White Walkers, the fact that Littlefinger is behind everything etc.

I LIVED for Brienne and Arya, we need more Brienne tbh!

The hinting at a Daenerys/Jon romance is gross but Davos is continuing to be an MVP in that story thread :clap1:

I honestly thought that Bronn would be the side character of the week to be bumped off so I'm glad he survived although his schtick is getting a bit played out. The whole battle sequence was stunning though and it's quite bizarre to see something we've waited years for play out before our eyes.

I'm intrigued to see how they balance the scales between Cersei and Daenerys once more, they spent three weeks building Cersei as a valid threat to Daenerys and got rid of all that build up in ten minutes. I'd assume that the mentions of the Golden Company will lead to something.

[King Gizzard]

Hmm..I don't think he fully knows yet as it was whispered from Lyanna to Ned last season, obviously knows he's not Ned's though

At least he's not completely sure who the father is/doesn't know if he's a bastard or legit

[Smithy]

Oh god I'm SHOOK

That ENDING, gah, my poor scalp!

[Shaun]

I assumed it was Dickon that saved Jaime since Bronn had literally just leapt away (v realistically) from the giant crossbow that'd just been torched. Find it a tad of a reach that he could just find a horse, mount it, and manage to see what was about to happen to Jaime.

But oh well, here's hoping Jaime drowns. Very little point to the character anyway.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i PRAY jamie is dead

[Scarlett.]

My guess is he will be found and taken to Dragonstone

[MTVN]

Jaime can't die, he is one of the only ones that make it possible to root for the Lannisters

[user104658]

Hmm..I don't think he fully knows yet as it was whispered from Lyanna to Ned last season, obviously knows he's not Ned's though

At least he's not completely sure who the father is/doesn't know if he's a bastard or legit

It seems like Bran essentially knows pretty much everything at this point in my opinion... I'd say he definitely knows about Jon's parentage, however, I don't think he would say anything to anyone about it other than Jon himself. Jon being of Targaryen descent is actually hugely problematic for his status as King in The North... Bran will know that and has no reason to want to destabilize The North. He will leave the decision about what to do with the information in Jon's hands.

[King Gizzard]

The way I saw it is he sees loads of things he doesn't fully understand and they come out jumbled in his head like the montages we've seen, so while he can see some things in the past they don't make much coherent sense as yet and he's having to piece them together and it's made him a bit weird

[Amy Jade]

I felt so sorry for all the horse deaths :worry:

I hope Jamie is dead but he definately isn't.

[Babayaro.]

If Jamie is dead then it would be up there with Stannis' as the worst death on the show, in terms of how they died.

Pretty certain he's still alive though.

[Shaun]

It makes no logical sense that someone can rescue him from a pool of water that is currently right next to Daenerys, her winning army, and a ****ing dragon :laugh:

[King Gizzard]

I'm surprised they're keeping Bronn alive tbh I didn't think he'd have much importance and immediately thought he'd be gone when this all started

Then again, it sort of looked like the fire caught him as they went in the pool

[DouglasS]

It makes no logical sense that someone can rescue him from a pool of water that is currently right next to Daenerys, her winning army, and a ****ing dragon :laugh:

Bronn is in the water also so he could rescue him. I wouldn't be suprised if Bronn is injured from saving him

[King Gizzard]

I don't see anything happening other than Tyrion first convincing Bronn and then Jaime to switch allegiance..Cersei probably doing something really evil even Jaime has enough

[bots]

that battle was just amazing!

[MTVN]

Tyrion didn't seem too happy with how Daenarys went about attacking the Lannisters though. If he also starts to get sidelined a bit because she doesn't trust his judgement anymore then I can see him getting frustrated and going north with Jon

[Brother Leon]

Great episode.

Don't know who was more stupid. Jaime charging or Dany burning all the food wagons in Winter.

All hail Lord Bronn, Wounder of Dragons.

[Brother Leon]

Oh and I can't wait for the Arya and Jon reunion. The Stark reunion we all need. Jon needs to leave Miss Bend The Knee already and meet his little sister(yeah, I'm not calling them cousins. **** that lol).

[user104658]

The way I saw it is he sees loads of things he doesn't fully understand and they come out jumbled in his head like the montages we've seen, so while he can see some things in the past they don't make much coherent sense as yet and he's having to piece them together and it's made him a bit weirdThe "chaos is a ladder" comment suggests otherwise though, it's a very specific reference to something Littlefinger said years ago, and basically Bran telling him that he knows everything.

[Brother Leon]

Jaime can't die, he is one of the only ones that make it possible to root for the Lannisters

Yeah. No chance Jaime or Bronn die and nor should they really. They are both arguably more likeable than anyone on Team Dany bar Tyrion, so they balance out the Cersei hate.

[DouglasS]

Cersei is really reminding me of Tywin. Just the way they do things, all the sneaky plans/double bluffing.

[Brother Leon]

I'm surprised they're keeping Bronn alive tbh I didn't think he'd have much importance and immediately thought he'd be gone when this all started

Then again, it sort of looked like the fire caught him as they went in the pool

I think the fact he lost his money and yet ran to the scorpion to wound the dragon anyway and then risked his life to save Jaime is trying to show us that he's starting to become more than just a Mercenary and his loyalties may not simply just be to Money.

[Locke.]

No way Jaime is dead. Why bother having him saved from an awesome dragon death if he's just going to drown in the next scene? Would be incredibly pointless, he still has lots to do.

I think he probably will be captured, which will lead to Tyrion having to make an important choice. After Jaime freed Tyrion from the King's Landing dungeon which lead to him killing Tywin, you've got to imagine Tyrion would return the favour.

[Nicky91]

^ i agree

[user104658]

Could the "she would give me a ship and wish me well" bit with Missandei be foreshadowing? I think Tyrion might ask to leave Dragonstone with Jon and head for Winterfell, and if so, he might request that they take Jaime with them...

I strongly suspect that anyone who holds a Valerian Steel weapon is destined to fight White Walkers, and Jaime has one.

Or..... As he gifted his original one to Brienne..... Might he gift Widow's Wail to Bronn for saving his life?

I mean there's also the Tarly sword that Sam has, someone else will surely be using that at some point. I can't see Sam himself flailing around with it... He can barely lift it :think:.

[Smithy]

No way Jaime is dead. Why bother having him saved from an awesome dragon death if he's just going to drown in the next scene? Would be incredibly pointless, he still has lots to do.

I think he probably will be captured, which will lead to Tyrion having to make an important choice. After Jaime freed Tyrion from the King's Landing dungeon which lead to him killing Tywin, you've got to imagine Tyrion would return the favour.

Tyrion wasn't guilty of what he was imprisoned for, Jamie just tried to kill the queen that tyrion has declared for, if he frees Jamie, he'll either have to go with him or he's ready to be a dragon snack

[Nicky91]

Tyrion wasn't guilty of what he was imprisoned for, Jamie just tried to kill the queen that tyrion has declared for, if he frees Jamie, he'll either have to go with him or he's ready to be a dragon snack

i can think of Tyrion going to winterfell and the wall with Jaime for the upcoming white walker war


Dany already nearly lost her mind, walking the same path her father did, also burning lots of people to the ground with the dragons, so i can see her downfall also coming very soon or near the end of season 8 ;)

[Smithy]

How is killing soilders of an opposing army with dragons any different to killing them with men

[user104658]

How is killing soilders of an opposing army with dragons any different to killing them with menIt isn't really. Whether you get burned by a dragon or chopped to bits with a sword... It's not really any different at all. She did take Jon's advice - she wanted to fly her dragons right into King's Landing and burn Cersei right there and then - he told her not to go burning towns and castles, so she changed the plan and targeted the soldiers in the open.

The real change with Daenerys is that before, she has been raising armies to free slaves and make people's lives better. While Cersei isn't "good", as a ruler she is basically just letting the "common people" get on with their lives, she isn't doing anything particularly awful to them, their day to day lives would be no different under Dany. So she isn't doing to to liberate like she was before, or to defend people like Jon... She just "wants the throne". She's a conqueror not really all that different to Cersei.

[Nicky91]

How is killing soilders of an opposing army with dragons any different to killing them with men

with dragons it's a bloodbath and a massacre ;)


but with men to men fights, at least everyone has a fair chance, and the strongest will survive that

[MTVN]

Pretty terrible PR for her to deliberately burn all the food which was needed to keep the most important city in Westeros from starving

[Nicky91]

Pretty terrible PR for her to deliberately burn all the food which was needed to keep the most important city in Westeros from starving

she doesn't care about that, all she cares about is her iron throne, cause it's her birthright as the one last targaryen :laugh:

[Locke.]

Tyrion wasn't guilty of what he was imprisoned for, Jamie just tried to kill the queen that tyrion has declared for, if he frees Jamie, he'll either have to go with him or he's ready to be a dragon snack

I felt that a lot of the focus on Tyrion during that battle was very much a "he doesn't agree with what she is doing here" kind of thing. The small clip of Varys and Tyrion in next weeks promo enforces that as well. I think his love for Jaime will be more important to him than winning Dany the throne, especially as his relationship with her seems to be starting to strain, on both his and her parts.

[Brother Leon]

Could the "she would give me a ship and wish me well" bit with Missandei be foreshadowing? I think Tyrion might ask to leave Dragonstone with Jon and head for Winterfell, and if so, he might request that they take Jaime with them...

I strongly suspect that anyone who holds a Valerian Steel weapon is destined to fight White Walkers, and Jaime has one.

Or..... As he gifted his original one to Brienne..... Might he gift Widow's Wail to Bronn for saving his life?

I mean there's also the Tarly sword that Sam has, someone else will surely be using that at some point. I can't see Sam himself flailing around with it... He can barely lift it :think:.

I enjoyed Jon's "Do you really believe that?". Sorry, but if her Unsullied Army suddenly woke up and decided they wanted to leave then I doubt she will be all smiles and "enjoy your freedom" :laugh:. I think that's all it was though, for so long we have been fed the Saviour of Slaves line so we had an outsider's view of it for once.

[user104658]

I enjoyed Jon's "Do you really believe that?". Sorry, but if her Unsullied Army suddenly woke up and decided they wanted to leave then I doubt she will be all smiles and "enjoy your freedom" [emoji23]. I think that's all it was though, for so long we have been fed the Saviour of Slaves line so we had an outsider's view of it for once.True. To be fair I think she would let her go if she wanted to, but she's just one person who she considers a friend. Probably any one person, or small group, she would wish we'll and allow to leave. But if it was a whole army that suddenly decided to go home, she would likely declare them all deserters and threaten to burn their ships if they left. She wouldn't allow anything that would disadvantage her war efforts.

She seems sort of "done" with Tyrion though and would probably let him head north.

[Locke.]

I expect next weeks episode to be even better than this weeks one.

Spoilers from the promo

We have confirmation from Bran that the army of the dead are heading to Eastwatch By the Sea, the Hound also saw this in his vision and this is where him and the Brotherhood have been heading for a couple of episodes, and is also were Jon sent Tormund and the Wildlings. The episode is also called Eastwatch, meaning that we're very likely to get our first battle of the season with the white walkers. Really don't expect any of the characters present to make it out of that alive tbh.

[Brother Leon]

Bran was a prick to Meera, but he seemed abit more himself when he gave the dagger to Arya and let her wheel him back inside. I think people are sleeping on how ****ed anyone's mind can be in his position at times.

[Tom4784]

There is one thing that's starting to bother me now I think about it, Daenerys momentarily turning on Varys and then Tyrion in the last two episodes felt quite off and unnatural like it was done for the convenience of the plot rather than being authentic to the character.

Not here for them randomly kickstarting a Mad Queen storyline for Daenerys in this season when they've largely dealt with the whole 'Is she as mad as her dad?' question in the last two seasons quite extensively and put it to bed.

[Babayaro.]

I expect next weeks episode to be even better than this weeks one.

Spoilers from the promo

We have confirmation from Bran that the army of the dead are heading to Eastwatch By the Sea, the Hound also saw this in his vision and this is where him and the Brotherhood have been heading for a couple of episodes, and is also were Jon sent Tormund and the Wildlings. The episode is also called Eastwatch, meaning that we're very likely to get our first battle of the season with the white walkers. Really don't expect any of the characters present to make it out of that alive tbh.

TBH I'd love it if the walkers just killed literally everyone in a battle (obviously not the main one with all the key characters) but in this one you have mentioned.

[Smithy]

with dragons it's a bloodbath and a massacre ;)


but with men to men fights, at least everyone has a fair chance, and the strongest will survive that

This is literally the dumbest thing I've ever read

[Babayaro.]

He has a point

[King Gizzard]

Yeah she's a coward imo tbh

[DouglasS]

Yeah she's a coward imo tbh
I'd agree if she wasn't riding on the dragon herself putting herself in danger.

Otherwise everyone could be called a coward for massacaring people. The Lannisters have all done it, including Jamie

[Locke.]

The Stark's, Lannister's, and Baratheon's are the only non cowards really. Robb, Jon and Ned are all military men and always in the thick of the battles they were/are involved in. Stannis and Robert always involved. Jaime had the chance to desert in the recent episode but wouldn't abandon his men, and Tyrion stepped up and commanded the men in King's Landing when nobody else would during the Battle of Blackwater.

Some of the Greyjoy's as well I suppose but then they also have the biggest coward in the entire series so it balances itself out

[King Gizzard]

:worry: I wasn't being serious

[Brother Leon]

I just want two of the Dragons to die already. It's getting boring really. Keep Drogon and the other two can die in Battle soon please. One Dragon is still a huge thing, but it's not just a ridiculously overpowered team then. It's also ridiculous that we couldn't have one scene of Ghost before Jon set off due to how much of the budget the Dragons eat up too.


As for the Dany debate. If she has Dragons then it's stupid not to use them, but I do find it weird that some people online were actually mad at Bronn for shooting the thing like it's a harmless puppy. That said, it would be cool if we have a scene where Dany gets knocked off her Dragon and we see something like this.

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Although she would obviously be a dead woman without being saved, it would be nice for Jon to see if she truly is The Queen worth bending the knee for.:hee:

[Nicky91]

i don't think Dany is physically that strong to fight herself :hehe:

[King Gizzard]

About 60% of the characters don't actually fight themselves so who cares

[Marsh.]

So Nicky's bitching about women isn't limited to reality shows then. :think:

[user104658]

i don't think Dany is physically that strong to fight herself :hehe:

:nono: Arya is smaller and it seems could beat most of the other characters one-on-one (possibly all?? Excluding Jaqen who would take her back to school...)

Dany is just lazy, she needs to get herself some assassin training. What's she been doing all these years? Sitting on her arse and riding about on dragons, that's what.

[Oliver_W]

What is Tommen's favourite band?

Fall Out Boy!

[Shaun]

What is Tommen's favourite band?

Fall Out Boy!

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[storybrooke]

What is Tommen's favourite band?

Fall Out Boy!

:bawling:

I thought he was so sweet

[Smithy]

At what point was Daenerys meant to train to actually be in battle? When she was sold as a slave bride? When she was wondering around in the red waste? When her dragons were kidnapped in quarth? When she was freeing slaves in slavers bay? When people in her city were being murdered by the son of the harpies? :nono: of course she's going to use the dragons as her weapons

[Jamesy]

Surprised at the Dany hate, in a show full of characters that have done far, far worse things, and characters that have been far, far lazier. :laugh:

I don't see the problem with using dragons either. She has dragons, she's not going to pet them and keep them in her living room now is she.

When it comes to Jamie and Bronn. I don't mind Jamie being kept alive for now, as there's interesting things that could be explored. Bronn though... the amount of times he survived death in those scenes was laughable. Very nice of the Dothraki to give him time to load, aim and reshoot some big ass device to try and kill a dragon twice also. I like Bronn, but the way he lived through all those scenes just came across as bad writing to me.

[Brother Leon]

Surprised at the Dany hate, in a show full of characters that have done far, far worse things, and characters that have been far, far lazier. :laugh:

I don't see the problem with using dragons either. She has dragons, she's not going to pet them and keep them in her living room now is she.

When it comes to Jamie and Bronn. I don't mind Jamie being kept alive for now, as there's interesting things that could be explored. Bronn though... the amount of times he survived death in those scenes was laughable. Very nice of the Dothraki to give him time to load, aim and reshoot some big ass device to try and kill a dragon twice also. I like Bronn, but the way he lived through all those scenes just came across as bad writing to me.

Same can be said about how Dany was able to come on ground and try and fight that arrow out of Drogon without catching a single hit from any of the many survivors that were shown in the preview of next episode. Or why Jaime didn't just throw the Spear at her Chest as soon as she turned around instead of wanting to stab her with it and giving Drogon vital seconds to perk up.

Even Game of Thrones has plot armour to an extent. Bronn is the most likely person to try and create a meeting between Jaime and Tyrion or Dany's people as he has no reason to be in this war other than an easy payday and then the fact that he's been beyond the wall "for work" means there is a strong chance he can believe Jon if he asked Jaime for help in the Winter War.

[Smithy]

Same can be said about how Dany was able to come on ground and try and fight that arrow out of Drogon without catching a single hit from any of the many survivors that were shown in the preview of next episode. Or why Jaime didn't just throw the Spear at her Chest as soon as she turned around instead of wanting to stab her with it and giving Drogon vital seconds to perk up.

Even Game of Thrones has plot armour to an extent. Bronn is the most likely person to try and create a meeting between Jaime and Tyrion or Dany's people as he has no reason to be in this war other than an easy payday and then the fact that he's been beyond the wall "for work" means there is a strong chance he can believe Jon if he asked Jaime for help in the Winter War.

Jamie is right handed, he couldn't have thrown with his left hand which is why he was charging with it, tbf I wouldn't want to attack someone who is next to and being protected by a dragon either so I could give the lanister soilders a break there :joker:

[user104658]

By the time the dragon hit the ground, the Lannister army was basically fleeing / in disarray (as seen when Jaime was looking around the battlefield). The battle was already over, no normal soldier was going to suddenly decide to kamikaze Daenerys and Drogon. Except Jaime who felt he had nothing to lose and just saw red at his defeat.

But yes, none of the many thousands of Dothraki bothering to stop Bronn and the ballista was a bit of a plot hole. As soon as it was fired for the first time they'd have been all over him too. Easy fix too; they could just have made it that Dany spotted him from the air and started heading for him, and his first (and only) shot hit. It would be much more believable that he wasn't noticed setting it up... Rather than after actually firing the thing.

[user104658]

At what point was Daenerys meant to train to actually be in battle? When she was sold as a slave bride? When she was wondering around in the red waste? When her dragons were kidnapped in quarth? When she was freeing slaves in slavers bay? When people in her city were being murdered by the son of the harpies? :nono: of course she's going to use the dragons as her weaponsShe should have been training with Khal Drogo - the strongest Dothraki warrior, and Daario Naharis - a highly skilled mercenary, instead of jumping their bones :nono:. Did Arya try to mount Jaqen? No she did not!

[Locke.]

Same can be said about how Dany was able to come on ground and try and fight that arrow out of Drogon without catching a single hit from any of the many survivors that were shown in the preview of next episode. Or why Jaime didn't just throw the Spear at her Chest as soon as she turned around instead of wanting to stab her with it and giving Drogon vital seconds to perk up.

Even Game of Thrones has plot armour to an extent. Bronn is the most likely person to try and create a meeting between Jaime and Tyrion or Dany's people as he has no reason to be in this war other than an easy payday and then the fact that he's been beyond the wall "for work" means there is a strong chance he can believe Jon if he asked Jaime for help in the Winter War.

I forgot about this, that's a good call. Would be great seeing Bronn in a battle against the walkers

[reece(:]

The sudden online hate for Dany because she went to battle is a MESS. She's dragged when she doesn't fight then again when she does. The reddit woman haters are doing the most too.

Isn't the vision not for one to take sides but to see every side's morals in a struggling situation?

[Smithy]

People coming for Dany for killing people IN BATTLE, when everyone seems to have forgotten CersiSIS blew up dozens of innocent people and it resulted in her son killing himself smh!!

[user104658]

The sudden online hate for Dany because she went to battle is a MESS. She's dragged when she doesn't fight then again when she does. The reddit woman haters are doing the most too.

Isn't the vision not for one to take sides but to see every side's morals in a struggling situation?There have been very few really twisted / evil characters. Pretty much just Joffrey and Ramsay Snow actually.

Cersei has always been power hungry and now is a bit broken due to the deaths of her children (which she doesn't realise / can't accept her part in).

Someone like Euron is also power hungry and a bit manic.

Dany has had good intentions but is now what I would call "power drunk" rather than power hungry... She thoroughly buys into her own legend.


So yeah I think basically the only evil (or rather, emotionless) enemy is the White Walkers... That is sort of the point. And what Jon is so frustrated by now. All of the petty / meaningless power struggles "for a throne" when he knows that the only hope they have is for every last human to stand together against the true evil.

[Brother Leon]

I forgot about this, that's a good call. Would be great seeing Bronn in a battle against the walkers

Jon,Davos,Jaime,Bronn ,The Hound, Arya and Breanne all fighting the Winted War. What a dream team that would be.

[Brother Leon]

The sudden online hate for Dany because she went to battle is a MESS. She's dragged when she doesn't fight then again when she does. The reddit woman haters are doing the most too.

Isn't the vision not for one to take sides but to see every side's morals in a struggling situation?

People coming for Dany for killing people IN BATTLE, when everyone seems to have forgotten CersiSIS blew up dozens of innocent people and it resulted in her son killing himself smh!!

I don't think that is the main reason as There is more online hate for the Lannisters and Bronn if anything. A lot of people can't believe someone would shoot a creature trying to burn them alive :laugh:.

I think the Dany hate has started more due to the scenes with Jon and further highlighting how entitled and power thirsty she is in comparison to him. She may be those things, but it's not really her fault as anyone would look that way next to Jon tbf.

[Locke.]

There have been very few really twisted / evil characters. Pretty much just Joffrey and Ramsay Snow actually.

Cersei has always been power hungry and now is a bit broken due to the deaths of her children (which she doesn't realise / can't accept her part in).

Someone like Euron is also power hungry and a bit manic.

Dany has had good intentions but is now what I would call "power drunk" rather than power hungry... She thoroughly buys into her own legend.


So yeah I think basically the only evil (or rather, emotionless) enemy is the White Walkers... That is sort of the point. And what Jon is so frustrated by now. All of the petty / meaningless power struggles "for a throne" when he knows that the only hope they have is for every last human to stand together against the true evil.

I think we'll be finding out otherwise quite soon

[Brother Leon]

When Dany finds out Jon's true parentage.

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[Scarlett.]

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[Nicky91]

When Dany finds out Jon's true parentage.

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Dany will have to kill Jon then :hehe:

[Smithy]

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That editing though :flutter:

[user104658]

Dany will have to kill Jon then :hehe:Yeah I can't figure out what her reaction will be... She's been all about the "true heir" being on the throne (thinking that was her) but Jon actually has a stronger claim because;

1. He is the son of the Mad King's first son so in the direct hereditary line.

2. Both of his parents are of noble house blood (Targ and Stark) so he wouldn't be "impure".

3. He has a penis and it's un-PC ye olde times.


So... Would Daenerys still crave the throne and therefore want rid of him... Or is she being honest when she talks about wanting the "true" Targaryen descendant to be on the throne and therefore back Jon?

[Strictly Jake]

Just caught up as I have been busy

That battle was amazingly filmed it was so tense I was obviously rooting for my queen to survive but I was a bit irritated by her Power mad attitude and I think it's alluding to the fact she may turn crazy like the mad king, still didn't want her to die though but I'm hoping Jamie isn't dead either not yet anyway

Good series so far I love that Sansa and arya are back together

[Brother Leon]

Yeah I can't figure out what her reaction will be... She's been all about the "true heir" being on the throne (thinking that was her) but Jon actually has a stronger claim because;

1. He is the son of the Mad King's first son so in the direct hereditary line.

2. Both of his parents are of noble house blood (Targ and Stark) so he wouldn't be "impure".

3. He has a penis and it's un-PC ye olde times.


So... Would Daenerys still crave the throne and therefore want rid of him... Or is she being honest when she talks about wanting the "true" Targaryen descendant to be on the throne and therefore back Jon?

She's a little lucky that Jon doesn't really give a damn about the throne and would let her have it anyway. Would be nice to see her entitlement knocked down a peg or two though.

[user104658]

She's a little lucky that Jon doesn't really give a damn about the throne and would let her have it anyway. Would be nice to see her entitlement knocked down a peg or two though.I reckon that's probably what will happen tbh. She will respect the hereditary rule and say it's his for the taking, but he'll be like "Not interested luv, it's yours so long as The North is free".

Also, did everyone else think that the lannisters had lost all of the Tyrell gold in the attack?? I've spent all week believing this to be the case, but then I was watching a YouTube br a down of the episode and the guy said that we had learned that all of the gold made it successfully to King's Landing. So I rewatched that part of the episode and sure enough, Sam's dad tells Jaime that the "last of the gold is through the gates at King's Landing" when he first rides up :think:. So the lannister army (along with all of the food...) has burned but Cersei has the gold and will presumably now take the Iron Bank up on the offer of a new loan to hire mercenaries...

I had already watched the episode twice (leaked blurry crap and then full 1080p) and had totally missed this pretty important detail both times :joker:.

The episode breakdown guy was also claiming that it was Dickon who saved Jaime from the dragon when it was quite clearly Bronn...

[Brother Leon]

Yeah. The gold made it back. It was the food that was destroyed and whatever else they may have took from High Garden.

Off work tomorrow for once, which means I can watch it live at 2am for once. Great stuff.

[Smithy]

E6 will be this years "E9" saw some people saying they saved most of the budget for this episode, which after E4's battle has got me SHOOK

[Nicky91]

She's a little lucky that Jon doesn't really give a damn about the throne and would let her have it anyway. Would be nice to see her entitlement knocked down a peg or two though.

that would be like

Jon: i'm a targaryen so i can be king of the seven kingdoms

Dany: no this is my birthright i want that throne, i want it now

Jon: ur not the only targaryen

Dany cries :laugh: :laugh:

[Locke.]

Get her Jaime!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Also kinda scared for this episode tbh, horrible feeling it's the end of our Sandor for good this time

[Locke.]

Good episode, finally confirmation that Jon is an official Targaryen and has a better claim to the Throne that Daenerys does. Gilly of all the characters being the one to confirm it.

The group of characters that have gotten together to march beyond the Wall is great, I like all of them and it's a shame we'll probably lose at least half of them next week. Gendry using a war hammer like Robert used to is a really nice touch as well.

Next weeks promo is twice as long as usual and is like a movie trailer. Looks absolutely incredible

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[Brother Leon]

Nice set up episode. Next week is going to be absolutely insane. Dreading who we might lose. I think Tormund is a definite goner. Jon(obvious reasons) and The Hound(Clegane Bowl) are prObably the only safe ones.

Also. Lol at "Prince Ragga" :laugh:

[Shaun]

*prepares headstones for Jorah and Thoros of Myr*

[Brother Leon]

Good ol' Jon now has Dany in total awe now too. Didn't take our One True King long.. :clap1:

[Nicky91]

kill off Dany next time please :fc:

[Smithy]

Good ep, next weeks looks like it's gonna be amazing, Dany is obviously going to swoop in and save the day though, all the Jon stans better be ready to bow down and thank her :idc:

Was thinking just before Dickon and Randyll died, we haven't had many big deaths this season, must all be in the last 2 eps :omgno:

[Smithy]

Also did anyone catch what the note arya read said?

All I could see was "has taken many wounds" (or something along those lines) and then it was signed by "your sister Sansa" :suspect:

[Shaun]

^ was written 'home' when she was with Joffrey, about how the Starks needed to bend the knee to the Lannisters before Ned was executed

[Smithy]

ohhh

[Brother Leon]

Good ep, next weeks looks like it's gonna be amazing, Dany is obviously going to swoop in and save the day though, all the Jon stans better be ready to bow down and thank her :idc:

Was thinking just before Dickon and Randyll died, we haven't had many big deaths this season, must all be in the last 2 eps :omgno:

Starting to think the deaths will be saved for S8. I can only see a couple of the team that went past the wall, a Dragon and maybe Littlefinger dying now.

[Shaun]

Still think Yara's on thin ice and there's always room for a curveball. Maybe Sam gets mobbed on the way north. Maybe Varys defects and gets burnt. Maybe Hot Pie has a bakery fire.

[DouglasS]

Would have been nice for Arya to see The Hound, Gendry and the brotherhood before they went to the wall. She has connections to so many people north

[DouglasS]

Olenna was a big death. Also in terms of storyline so was Ellaria Sand.

Can't think of any other 'big deaths' this season. Also expecting Littlefinger to in the final episode this season.

A massive shock that could happen would be Sansa that would have the Ned / Red wedding effect. She'll either make it to the end and potentially rule or bow out in this season finale imo.

[Tom4784]

Well that's my theory blown out of the water.

The White Walker storyline will probably be concluded by the end of this season. There's too much for the writers to cover when it comes to the War of Queens to finish it off in the next two episodes especially if they bring in the Golden Company (and a certain someone with them). I predict that a temporary alliance of Cersei, Dany and John will destroy the army of the Dead by the end of the season but Cersei's forces will turn on John and Dany at the end of the battle which will draw up the battle lines for Season 8 and put Dany back on the backfoot. I think Cersei will just use the White Walkers as an excuse to take a time out and gather some armies capable of taking her on.

I thought the episode was pretty good, the inclusion of the Tarlys in this series was made a bit pointless by it though, their storyline should have ended last season with Sam leaving with the Valyrian steel sword. I like Gendry's return and I generally thought Davos was on form with the one liners.

I'm living for Cersei being a cold tactical bitch and not flying off the handle when it came to Tyrion. Plot that platinum blonde bitch's downfall :clap1:

Still not here for them rehashing the mad queen storyline for Dany either, it feels like a very...TV-esque thing to do. She's trying to take over the Seven Kingdoms, she's not going to do it by making daisy chains and singing Kumbaya.

I don't think Littlefinger's long for the show, next episode or the finale. He's pretty much dead in one of them. Arya will kill him which will have the knock on effect of losing the support of the Vale in Season 8. I think Arya will end up leaving Winterfell to go back after Cersei, I think what I said a few weeks back about Arya realising that she can no longer play the role of the noble will cause her to leave.

Bran is also going to die very soon, I think given that his role is based entirely around the White Walkers and they probably won't be a threat for much longer. I can see him falling victim to Littlefinger's plotting.

[Babayaro.]

At least 2 of those 7 won't return from outside the wall, I reckon.

[Locke.]

It would be a pretty good death for Jorah, going out fighting the army of the dead. He'd probably see that as him redeeming himself to his father. Think Thoros will definitely die, he's not as important as Melisandre and if he dies then it means Beric won't be getting brought back this time if he dies as well. Although their god has obviously sent them down there for a reason, not sure what that could be.. Maybe they'll be responsible for securing Jon's safe passage back across the Wall, going out in a blaze of glory

[Smithy]

Well that's my theory blown out of the water.

The White Walker storyline will probably be concluded by the end of this season. There's too much for the writers to cover when it comes to the War of Queens to finish it off in the next two episodes especially if they bring in the Golden Company (and a certain someone with them). I predict that a temporary alliance of Cersei, Dany and John will destroy the army of the Dead by the end of the season but Cersei's forces will turn on John and Dany at the end of the battle which will draw up the battle lines for Season 8 and put Dany back on the backfoot. I think Cersei will just use the White Walkers as an excuse to take a time out and gather some armies capable of taking her on.

I thought the episode was pretty good, the inclusion of the Tarlys in this series was made a bit pointless by it though, their storyline should have ended last season with Sam leaving with the Valyrian steel sword. I like Gendry's return and I generally thought Davos was on form with the one liners.

I'm living for Cersei being a cold tactical bitch and not flying off the handle when it came to Tyrion. Plot that platinum blonde bitch's downfall :clap1:

Still not here for them rehashing the mad queen storyline for Dany either, it feels like a very...TV-esque thing to do. She's trying to take over the Seven Kingdoms, she's not going to do it by making daisy chains and singing Kumbaya.

I don't think Littlefinger's long for the show, next episode or the finale. He's pretty much dead in one of them. Arya will kill him which will have the knock on effect of losing the support of the Vale in Season 8. I think Arya will end up leaving Winterfell to go back after Cersei, I think what I said a few weeks back about Arya realising that she can no longer play the role of the noble will cause her to leave.

Bran is also going to die very soon, I think given that his role is based entirely around the White Walkers and they probably won't be a threat for much longer. I can see him falling victim to Littlefinger's plotting.

There's no way they're going to build up the army of the dead for 7 seasons just to have it over within 2 episodes, what's I'm guessing will happen is that they'll manage to capture a walker and take it to Cersei, convincing her of the army of the dead, she'll play a long and the season will end with the wall coming down. Next season is going to be 6x90+ min eps, that's 9 hours minimum, they wouldn't be able to drag Dany vs Cersei out for that long

IA re: the mad queen thing, people who see it from that perspective are just plain stupid, even the writer of the episode said as much

“At least Dany offers them a choice. Every conqueror offers the choice of ‘bend the knee or die.’ These lords disobeyed her and disrespected her in rebellion against the rightful queen. Then she gives them a way out and they don’t take it. Her deal wasn’t even ‘I’ll let you live.’ They could have kept all their titles and land. So, yes, in one way, it’s a horrible death. On the other hand, they kind of asked for it. It’s a win-win situation and they somehow managed to find the ‘lose’ in that.”

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[Locke.]

The army of the dead storyline >>>>>> the fight for the throne. Much more important

[Tom4784]

But then can they really get nine hours out of the White Walkers as well? It makes more sense to me if they are the focus of the next two episodes and those episodes go big and conclude their storyline. I can see the wall coming down in the next episode and the last episode will just be like a film with everyone against the White Walkers.

There's more story to be told in regards to the war for the Throne than the White Walkers especially how they've set it up now with the potential aftermath of the destruction of the White Walkers changing the board.

[Locke.]

Probably see Benjen again next week as well, a reunion with Jon at long last

[Nicky91]

BOO at Dany not helping fight the white walkers, makes it even more Obvious she's only interested in that boring throne of hers :nono:

[Smithy]

But then can they really get nine hours out of the White Walkers as well? It makes more sense to me if they are the focus of the next two episodes and those episodes go big and conclude their storyline. I can see the wall coming down in the next episode and the last episode will just be like a film with everyone against the White Walkers.

There's more story to be told in regards to the war for the Throne than the White Walkers especially how they've set it up now with the potential aftermath of the destruction of the White Walkers changing the board.

No, but I'm not saying they will, the next two eps will be the start of the war with the walkers, S8 will be the climax of everything, the walkers and the war for the crown. If the wall came down next ep, there's no way the southern armies would be able to get north in time before the dead made it to winter fell or even further south (even with the new S7 teleportation power everyone has gained this season :fan:) whereas if they prove to Cersei they're real and begin to march before it comes down, it'd make more sense

[Babayaro.]

The army of the dead storyline >>>>>> the fight for the throne. Much more important

This.

Would be stupid and rather annoying if it's all wrapped up by the end of this season.

[bots]

At least one of the big players will fall to the white walkers, i think that's a given, Winterfell has got to be a prime candidate for being overrun, and it would be hilarious if littlefinger with all his scheming fell at the hands of the big white boss :hehe:

[Nicky91]

At least one of the big players will fall to the white walkers, i think that's a given, Winterfell has got to be a prime candidate for being overrun, and it would be hilarious if littlefinger with all his scheming fell at the hands of the big white boss :hehe:

Sansa to be killed by the night king :worry: i really fear for this

[Brother Leon]

The army of the dead storyline >>>>>> the fight for the throne. Much more important

Agreed. The fight for the throne is dumb anyway and delaying the inevitable Cersei death.

[Tom4784]

The War for the Throne will eventually lead to Dany vs Jon anyway since this episode all but confirmed he is the rightful heir to the throne so it's not all going to be Dany vs Cersei.

The White Walkers won't be around for much longer simply because they aren't an entity that can be shown and used repeatedly for both budgetary and creative reasons so they won't be able to hold an entire season as the central villains because they aren't characters that can be developed or interacted with outside of battle, the whole point of them from a narrative perspective will likely be to cause the team up against them which will eventually lead to the endgame war for the Throne.

[Smithy]

But next year if the focus is predominantly on the walkers they're going to save on budgets massively for shooting locations and sets :shrug:

[Brother Leon]

The War for the Throne will eventually lead to Dany vs Jon anyway since this episode all but confirmed he is the rightful heir to the throne so it's not all going to be Dany vs Cersei.

The White Walkers won't be around for much longer simply because they aren't an entity that can be shown and used repeatedly for both budgetary and creative reasons so they won't be able to hold an entire season as the central villains because they aren't characters that can be developed or interacted with outside of battle, the whole point of them from a narrative perspective will likely be to cause the team up against them which will eventually lead to the endgame war for the Throne.

I would love that as it is much better than the potential romance between them that is being teased. I don't think Jon cares much for the Iron throne though.

[Shaun]

if the last shot of the finale is them two sat on the throne together with a bunch of half-human-half-dragon babies I'm going to kick off

[Scarlett.]

The army of the dead storyline >>>>>> the fight for the throne. Much more important

Indeed, lets not forget the first ever scene of Game of Thrones was about White Walkers.

[reece(:]

I feel like the White Walkers will be wrapped up on the first ep of S7, after the end of S6 is a cliffhanger with them (?)

[King Gizzard]

Don't think Martin set out for the thrones to be even that important, let's not forget that was only the title of one book

think both storylines will continue in tandem til the very end, maybe the throne being sorted out before hand with Cersei inevitably dying then probably some sort of tussle between Dany and Jon, the emergence of Azor Ahai. But ultimately the Whitewalker battle is more important here

[Shaun]

can't wait for the two bastards to bond so well over their similar upbringings that they end up experimenting with their weaponry x

[Niamh.]

can't wait for the two bastards to bond so well over their similar upbringings that they end up experimenting with their weaponry x

Jon is no longer a bastard I'm afraid

[Shaun]

niamh i am trying to get Kit Harington and Chris from Skins to ****, can you stop pointing out facts

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

can the white walkers not be wiped out with magic or somn? like (and this my take on events, i'm not an obsessive viewer so correct me if i'm wrong) they only exist bc of magic/some sort of spell used by the green girl with the cabbage head so like surely a spell or w/e can just destroy them all?

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

also the guy that got roasted to death with his dad was GORGEOUS i miss him

[Shaun]

good old Dickon <3

he used to be played by someone hotter though (freddie stroma)

[King Gizzard]

Although I'm really liking this season, and they've formed a troupe out of all of my favourite characters...I've gotta say the plot holes with regards to logistics is starting to annoy me a bit, how davos can get from dragonstone to kingslanding to dragonstone and then up to the wall whilst the walkers just stay at eastwatch for what seems an eternity. I saw a scale map when it had Westeros being as one big as north and South America which makes it even more bizarre. it's moving so fast now it does seem all rushed to me. Also how Dany didn't seem to really take whitewalkers seriously but now out of the blue she's happy to try and have some sort of truce with Cersei and is paying more attention to Jon. And whilst we're at it out Jaime and Bronn can just turn up the other side of the lake swimming all that way underwater with no search parties in sight..then 5 minutes later Jaime's in the Red Keep even though he didn't have a horse..


Arya's face when she does that fake grin is really annoying too...

But yeah... the white walkers stalkers :lovedup:

Wish theyd brought Gendry back sooner. Glad they didn't just have him making valerian steel

[Niamh.]

niamh i am trying to get Kit Harington and Chris from Skins to ****, can you stop pointing out facts

terribly sorry, as you were

[Niamh.]

Although I'm really liking this season, and they've formed a troupe out of all of my favourite characters...I've gotta say the plot holes with regards to logistics is starting to annoy me a bit, how davos can get from dragonstone to kingslanding to dragonstone and then up to the wall whilst the walkers just stay at eastwatch for what seems an eternity. I saw a scale map when it had Westeros being as one big as north and South America which makes it even more bizarre. it's moving so fast now it does seem all rushed to me. Also how Dany didn't seem to really take whitewalkers seriously but now out of the blue she's happy to try and have some sort of truce with Cersei and is paying more attention to Jon. And whilst we're at it out Jaime and Bronn can just turn up the other side of the lake swimming all that way underwater with no search parties in sight..then 5 minutes later Jaime's in the Red Keep even though he didn't have a horse..


Arya's face when she does that fake grin is really annoying too...

But yeah... the white walkers stalkers :lovedup:

Wish theyd brought Gendry back sooner. Glad they didn't just have him making valerian steel

Yeah was just saying after watching the last episode, how come they can get to the wall, steal a walker and bring it to show Cersei before the walker army even get to the wall

[King Gizzard]

And Gillys kid being a toddler when this series directly followed last seasons when he was a baby

[user104658]

And Gillys kid being a toddler when this series directly followed last seasons when he was a babyWell that's the thing... I reckon they're saying that it IS taking time for these journeys to happen, weeks+ at a time, and so Sam and Gilly have been there for a year or so...

But yeah, the part of that that doesn't really make sense, is why it's taking so long for the army of the dead to get anywhere. I mean I know they're slow, but....

[user104658]

Unless, maybe, they still can't get past the wall and it's ironically something that John and Co do while north of the wall next episode, that brings down or let's them pass the wall?

[reece(:]

Can't they go on boats and sail up? or is that not possible lmao.

[bots]

Yeah was just saying after watching the last episode, how come they can get to the wall, steal a walker and bring it to show Cersei before the walker army even get to the wall

the walkers are changing the weather to winter, it takes a bit of time and slows them up a bit :laugh:

I'm loving this series so far, its my favourite since the first 2 seasons. Its been captivating the whole time and the cinematography is really something special.

[BBUKAUSFAN]

Can't they go on boats and sail up? or is that not possible lmao.

they did that last season and then sailed back out after the battle at hardhome right?

[Niamh.]

the walkers are changing the weather to winter, it takes a bit of time and slows them up a bit :laugh:

I'm loving this series so far, its my favourite since the first 2 seasons. Its been captivating the whole time and the cinematography is really something special.

Yeah, the logistics are the only small thing I can pick at really, it's been a fantastic season

[Brother Leon]

The teleportation has become a little crazy, but I don't even mind tbh. I would prefer this to wasting a couple episodes on travel when there aren't enough episodes left for that. The Books(if they ever come out) will have the slow build ending as an alternative I suppose. )

[Niamh.]

Yeah that's true Leon

[Locke.]

The White Walkers are probably looking for some kind of magical weapon/device that will enable them to be able to get through the wall/knock it down, which is why they are taking so long to go there. There is magical properties in the wall that keep them out so they know better than to just stroll up to it. There is something in the books about a magical horn that would knock the wall down if it was blown, the wildlings were looking for it in book 2.

[Tom4784]

I think each episode takes place over multiple days/weeks. They aren't making out that Davos managed to get to King's Landing, back to Dragonstone and then to Eastwatch in a day.

It would make sense given that Sam said that he met Bran years ago although it only seemed like Bran was beyond the wall for a few months at most to us.

[Niamh.]

I think each episode takes place over multiple days/weeks. They aren't making out that Davos managed to get to King's Landing, back to Dragonstone and then to Eastwatch in a day.

It would make sense given that Sam said that he met Bran years ago although it only seemed like Bran was beyond the wall for a few months at most to us.

It wasn't those things for me, it was the fact that Jon and co have planned to travel to the wall, capture a walker and bring it to Cersei all before the Walkers can even get as far as the wall

[Locke.]

Anyone else think the wight they end up bringing back is going to be one of themselves who die on this mission?

[Tom4784]

It wasn't those things for me, it was the fact that Jon and co have planned to travel to the wall, capture a walker and bring it to Cersei all before the Walkers can even get as far as the wall

I think it's only been implied that they're going to the wall isn't it? They still can't get past it. It'd make sense if they are marching towards something to bypass the wall rather than the wall itself.

[Niamh.]

I think it's only been implied that they're going to the wall isn't it? They still can't get past it. It'd make sense if they are marching towards something to bypass the wall rather than the wall itself.

mmm maybe, I just assumed that was the only way way in

[Brother Leon]

Anyone else think the wight they end up bringing back is going to be one of themselves who die on this mission?

I think it might be Jorah. That's the one that would hurt Dany and motivate her to fight them.

[Niamh.]

I think it might be Jorah. That's the one that would hurt Dany and motivate her to fight them.

I think (but hope I'm wrong) that it will be The Hound and he'll be brought back to Cersei to see his equally zombified brother

[bots]

the walkers may get to winterfell before they get to the wall, if thats the case then my money is on littlefinger ... he has to get what's coming soon

[Niamh.]

the walkers may get to winterfell before they get to the wall, if thats the case then my money is on littlefinger ... he has to get what's coming soon

It'll be either Arya does him in I reckon or maybe even Sansa

[Brother Leon]

I think (but hope I'm wrong) that it will be The Hound and he'll be brought back to Cersei to see his equally zombified brother

Maybe, but I don't think The Hound will die before he meets his brother again. I also think that him seeing things in the flames means that it is Beric and Thoros' destiny to sacrifice themselves for him.

[Brother Leon]

:laugh: I love this..

GLSx_ckJeXI

[Jordan.]

Episode 6 got leaked so there's spoilers all over twitter right now... and I hate myself for watching them

https://media.giphy.com/media/R086e9cznXaBG/giphy.gif

[King Gizzard]

Apparently aired by HBO Spain? What the ****?

A lot of people saying it's the best show there's been, even better than ep 4

[Brother Leon]

HBO leaking their own **** now ffs :joker:


Going to be a challenge avoiding Spoilers for this long now..

[Josy]

****sake hbo.

Already saw a spoiler :fist:

[Nicky91]

how awkward for HBO again :facepalm: :joker:

[Niamh.]

Maybe, but I don't think The Hound will die before he meets his brother again. I also think that him seeing things in the flames means that it is Beric and Thoros' destiny to sacrifice themselves for him.

I hope you're right, I can't bear to lose him yet :worry:

[Smithy]

Omfg is it in good quality? I need to watch tonight

[Smithy]

Ahhh it's 1080

[Niamh.]

Ahhh it's 1080

Watching this later :amazed:

[reece(:]

Cannot cope with the spoiler I've seen, **** sake.

[King Gizzard]

Yeah I've seen a gif of what I presume is the ending and...yeah. Knew it was happening anyway though

[Jordan.]

I'm downloading the ep now, dunno if it's legit or not but **** waiting till monday after seeing the major part.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

aaAAAAH//

[Babayaro.]

Hmm to watch it now or not? :think:

I saw the ep come up on FB but was pretty poor quality so I didn't bother watching it. Where's everyone getting it/downloading it from??

[Daniel.]

Its going to be hard to avoid

[Glenn.]

It's too long to wait between now and Monday so I'm watching it later. I've seen spoilers for it now anyway.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i'm FURIOUS

is the white walker dragon gonna breathe fire or ice btw

[Glenn.]

Hmm to watch it now or not? :think:

I saw the ep come up on FB but was pretty poor quality so I didn't bother watching it. Where's everyone getting it/downloading it from??

Got mine from kick arse 1080p

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

kick arse aghfdggffgf

[Tom4784]

Impatient sluts.

[Brother Leon]

**** sake. My friend posted a couple gifs of huge spoilers in our WhatsApp group chat. Fuming.


If anyone wants to know....


The Night King kills a dragon and reserects him.

Jon Snow tells Dany she's his Queen and bends the knee(not literally as he's too hurt).

[Smithy]

Literally knew it was going to happen and I still could have cried

RIP Viserion :bawling:

[Shaun]

I take forever to watch something if I've downloaded it, have had about 20 different series on a memory stick for months. I'll wait til it airs :laugh:

[MTVN]

Spend the first part of the week avoiding this thread because I hadn't seen ep5, now I've actually seen that I've got to spend the rest of this week avoiding this thread because most people have seen ep6 :fist:

[Shaun]

yeah idk why i just clicked leon's spoiler lol, only saw the first line of it thank god

i mean that's a pretty major spoiler in itself but still

[Smithy]

yeah idk why i just clicked leon's spoiler lol, only saw the first line of it thank god

i mean that's a pretty major spoiler in itself but still

The second line is nothing compared to the first too :laugh2:

[Niamh.]

anyone know what site I can stream it on?

[Smithy]

cartoonHD niamh, although the audio is slightly tinny

[Niamh.]

aw you need to register and give credit card details for that one

[Smithy]

no you dont :suspect:

just log in with Facebook

[Brother Leon]

Still can't believe Jon Snow and Dany died. I'm in shock :(

[Smithy]

can we just @ sansa for a second

I need to keep brianne here to protect me

brianne go to kings landing

[Niamh.]

no you dont :suspect:

just log in with Facebook

oh got it, thanks

[Jordan.]

umm watching now not really a spoiler but

that tormund/hound exchange <3

[Locke.]

Holy **** that was good. I need some time to decide whether that tops the Rains of Castamere as my favourite episode of the show or not...

As soon as we saw the 3 dragons riding away instead of just Drogon I knew that one was going to go down. Knew that when it did it'd get raised too, but that was still an amazing scene.

First episode since season 1 that Dany has actually been likeable in. A bit gutted Jon has bent the knee but I suppose they'll need to have each others backs next week as I imagine Cersei will be plotting to have them all killed there. Especially as she invited Sansa too, it would be taking out every single enemy all at once. Jaime will have to kill her now to save Brienne.

Loads of great comedic moments in the first half as well and it was great seeing all those characters that went beyond the Wall interacting for a bit, and glad that we got a scene of Jon offering the sword back to Jorah.

Agree with what Scott said earlier.. Be interesting to see if the dragon breathes fire or ice. If it breathes fire then maybe it can just burn part of the Wall down.....

[Brother Leon]

Ergh. I might just watch this after work tomorrow tbh. It's already effectively been spoiled. I'm excited to see if it can top Battle Of The Bastards and Winds Of Winter.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

how did y'all know about the dragon?

was it spoiled already or were you just guessing :suspect:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

ALSO why are there still only 3 dragons? like are there no more eggs left or somn? and why don't the current dragons make babies idgi

[Niamh.]

That part was a total shock for me

[King Gizzard]

how did y'all know about the dragon?

was it spoiled already or were you just guessing :suspect:

was in the spoilers that came out last year on reddit

everything word for word has happened

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

oh i'm glad i never saw them hee

[Locke.]

how did y'all know about the dragon?

was it spoiled already or were you just guessing :suspect:

Doubt the dragon death was spoiled.. Feel like that would have been impossible to avoid for this long

nvm maybe it was