Game of Thrones Thread

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

is anyone else expecting

zombie dragon to see dany and then like protect her/go back to her or some **** as a sort of love can overcome anything type thing bc i totally am bookmark me

[Locke.]

This isn't The Neverending Story, Scott

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

we'll see :hmph:

[Brother Leon]

is anyone else expecting

zombie dragon to see dany and then like protect her/go back to her or some **** as a sort of love can overcome anything type thing bc i totally am bookmark me

No. I think Drogon kills it in the end protecting Dany. It will mirror Drogo killing Viserys.

[Locke.]

Just realized as well

The Hound has gone to King's Landing with Dany and Jon it seems, after Beric said he hopes they'll meet again. A reunion between him and the Mountain at long last!

[Smithy]

Doubt the dragon death was spoiled.. Feel like that would have been impossible to avoid for this long

nvm maybe it was

Everything has been spoiled </3

Luckily for me that and olennas death were the only things I saw for the

[Smithy]

Tormund: I like dick

:evilgrin:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

tormund is gorgeous ugh

[King Gizzard]

Saw the final is 81 minutes. Got damn

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

idk why this season couldn't have been 10 eps and the next one 5 bc it feels sf rushed compared to the rest

[King Gizzard]

It's 5? I thought it was 6

I know they were also thinking about a film afterwards. I will cry if that happens

[Smithy]

It is 6, initially D&D wanted a 13 episode season 7 but HBO said they needed to split it bc $$$

[King Gizzard]

It'd have been good to keep the momentum going, maybe a mid season break for a couple months

[Locke.]

They better not leak scripts and crap next year, would be horrific if the ending was leaked

[King Gizzard]

I still want to know how that bloke knew everything so early, not your average runner gets that much info

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

what i thought this season was 7 eps and next season was 3? :suspect:

[Locke.]

7 & 6 but the 6 next season are all extra long I believe

[Glenn.]

Just watched it in its entirety. Holy ****

[Mystic Mock]

I've not been on here for awhile, it's been good catching back up, although I still don't think that this show is at the peak of seasons 1-4 imo.

Season 7 has been great for the most part, but the only thing that's making it difficult to watch is this forced Jon and Daenarys relationship, it's ashame aswell as I've really enjoyed Daenarys's character throughout the show's run (besides season 5) but this relationship is rushed, and they have nothing in common, and no chemistry imo. It is fan fiction at it's worst and typical of an American TV Show to write some of the most horrible romances.:laugh:

I am really enjoying the Arya, Sansa, and Littlefinger dynamic, and The Hound, The Brotherhood, and Gendri (excuse the spelling) have all been good aswell, and I've enjoyed characters like Tyrion, Jaime, Bronn, and Davos as usual. Cersei seems a bit wornout of storylines at this point, but she has been an iconic villain for the show so one rough year isn't that bad imo.

Oh and in season 6 I loved Battle Of The Bastards and The Door.

[Nicky91]

wow Mock being a true GoT fan :flutter:

[Brother Leon]

A young GRRM next to Kit Harrington :laugh:

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[user104658]

A young GRRM next to Kit Harrington [emoji23]

https://i.redd.it/sipxobd1v8gz.jpgJon Snow 2057 :worry:

https://photos.vanityfair.com/2015/01/21/54c03653eac9a2571a187323_george-rr-martin.jpg

[Niamh.]

Is that really GRRM Leon? :o


Also Re the new episode :

Arya has been my favourite character from the start but she's been really annoying since she got back to Winterfell. That stuff with note, what did she actually expect Sansa to do back then? I was shouting at the TV when she said she was watching Ned get beheaded, what did you do to save him??? hhhmmm? So I was glad Sansa said it. I hope they don't ruin her and she redeems herself by killing Little finger and giving Sansa a break

[Nicky91]

Kit is really good looking :love:

[user104658]

I was wondering how, even with the time and distance discrepancies, it was in any way realistic that...

Daenerys and the dragons could reach the Fellowship of the Zombie before they froze to death

... But then I looked up theories and calculations about the dragons, and the estimate is that they can probably fly at up to 200mph with a passenger :omgno: and even faster without. Now, how realistic it is for Dany to be comfortably riding a dragon at that speed without a windscreen, or at least a helmet / goggles (as apparently some open cockpit propeller planes did go at those sorts of speeds) is another matter. I guess you could assume there's some mystical / magical element that protects the rider from wind and G forces...

[Smithy]

I've not been on here for awhile, it's been good catching back up, although I still don't think that this show is at the peak of seasons 1-4 imo.

Season 7 has been great for the most part, but the only thing that's making it difficult to watch is this forced Jon and Daenarys relationship, it's ashame aswell as I've really enjoyed Daenarys's character throughout the show's run (besides season 5) but this relationship is rushed, and they have nothing in common, and no chemistry imo. It is fan fiction at it's worst and typical of an American TV Show to write some of the most horrible romances.:laugh:

I am really enjoying the Arya, Sansa, and Littlefinger dynamic, and The Hound, The Brotherhood, and Gendri (excuse the spelling) have all been good aswell, and I've enjoyed characters like Tyrion, Jaime, Bronn, and Davos as usual. Cersei seems a bit wornout of storylines at this point, but she has been an iconic villain for the show so one rough year isn't that bad imo.

Oh and in season 6 I loved Battle Of The Bastards and The Door.

I think the relationship is cannon actually

[Locke.]

Is that really GRRM Leon? :o


Also Re the new episode :

Arya has been my favourite character from the start but she's been really annoying since she got back to Winterfell. That stuff with note, what did she actually expect Sansa to do back then? I was shouting at the TV when she said she was watching Ned get beheaded, what did you do to save him??? hhhmmm? So I was glad Sansa said it. I hope they don't ruin her and she redeems herself by killing Little finger and giving Sansa a break

Arya was rushing through the crowd with her hand on Needle to try (and obviously fail) to save Ned though until Yoren grabbed her and forced her not to. So she was at least going to try something. Not that Sansa could do anything either, but yeah. I think

Both Arya and Sansa are playing their own game within Winterfell that will spell the end of Littlefinger next week, but each of them are getting in the others way.

Then again I expect the Night's King to make it past the Wall next week so maybe it's for the best Arya and Sansa make a run for it and just leave Littlefinger behind at Winterfell.

[Locke.]

Ep6

Tokyo 2020

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[Brother Leon]

Is that really GRRM Leon? :o


Also Re the new episode :

Arya has been my favourite character from the start but she's been really annoying since she got back to Winterfell. That stuff with note, what did she actually expect Sansa to do back then? I was shouting at the TV when she said she was watching Ned get beheaded, what did you do to save him??? hhhmmm? So I was glad Sansa said it. I hope they don't ruin her and she redeems herself by killing Little finger and giving Sansa a break

Yeah it's him. Reddit were all saying how Jon Snow is based off Young GRRM and Sam is him currently :laugh:

[Tom4784]

I've had some bits spoiled for me on facebook so now I'm gonna have to ****ing watch it before some twats decide to spoil the rest for me. :hmph:

[user104658]

I've had some bits spoiled for me on facebook so now I'm gonna have to ****ing watch it before some twats decide to spoil the rest for me. :hmph:Tbf I don't think there were any huge moments to spoil?

As soon as they showed the Wight Bear, near the beginning, it was obvious that they were hinting at a Wight Dragon. It was always pretty obvious that the Fellowship was going to run into trouble and Danny was going to ride in to help. It was also always obvious that one of them wasn't going to make it back... And IMO pretty obvious who it would be (because of the implications for Beric).

So while it was another brilliant episode; I personally don't think there were too many surprises? It was also pretty obvious that Jon, Beric and The Hound and (because he's only just come back ffs) Gendry would survive. I was worried for Tormund at one point though :worry:

Highlight of the episode was Tormund and The Hound talking about Brienne. "... You DO know her!" :joker:.

[user104658]

As for the quality... I'm def going to have to rewatch. The resolution is good but the colour is washed out and it has a (quite bad, IMO) frame stutter in fast paced scenes. That was an old problem with early Netflix rips, which has since been solved.

It's a pretty raw rip, not properly refined and encoded by a decent team. It's also running at about 110% speed same as the last one, you can hear that as soon as the theme starts.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

As for the quality... I'm def going to have to rewatch. The resolution is good but the colour is washed out and it has a (quite bad, IMO) frame stutter in fast paced scenes. That was an old problem with early Netflix rips, which has since been solved.

It's a pretty raw rip, not properly refined and encoded by a decent team. It's also running at about 110% speed same as the last one, you can hear that as soon as the theme starts.

i noticed this too :worry:

[Smithy]

Quite an interesting thought for next season

Obv now that Viserion is dead (RIP :'( ) he'll begin to rot, whereas Drogon and Rhaegal will continue to grow, i imagine the night king is only going to use him to bring down the wall and doesn't actually expect him to be much use afterward

[RileyH]

re the leaked episode:
Arya was annoying af reading that note, I knew one of the dragons would die eventually but maybe in a later episode, happy Benjen saved Jon, Thoros dying was tragic, Tormund hilarious as always, Dany made a stupid move taking 2 dragons, we need more Missandei, and probably more but that's all I can think of atm

[RileyH]

Arya was rushing through the crowd with her hand on Needle to try (and obviously fail) to save Ned though until Yoren grabbed her and forced her not to. So she was at least going to try something. Not that Sansa could do anything either, but yeah. I think

tbf Sansa was fighting away the guard and trying to reach her dad

[Tom4784]

After seeing the quality of the leaked episode, I think I'll just wait.

[Denver]

Im going to start season 1 tonight

[Locke.]

Family death count after Episode 6

Named characters only. Including extras the Frey's are far, far, far in the lead.

Females married into another family are categorized into the married family, excluding Cersei.
Cersei & Jaime's children are categorized as Lannisters, as the last official Baratheon (Stannis) considered them such, and they don't have any Baratheon blood.
Jon is categorized as a Stark because he'll always be one in my eyes.

Lannister - 9 (Alton, Martyn, Willem, Joffrey, Tywin, Myrcella, Lancel, Kevan, Tommen)
Stark - 6 (Ned, Robb, Talisa, Cat, Rickon, Benjen)
Baratheon - 5 (Robert, Renly, Shireen, Selyse, Stannis)
Frey - 4 (Black Walder, Walder, Stevron, Lothar)
Tyrell - 4 (Margaery, Loras, Mace, Olenna)
Bolton - 4 (Roose, Walda, Roose & Walda's newborn, Ramsay)
Martell - 3 (Oberyn, Doran, Trystane) (7 inc. Sand Snakes & Ellaria)
Tully - 2 (Hoster, Blackfish)
Arryn - 2 (Jon, Lysa)
Greyjoy - 1 (Balon)
Targaryen - 1 (Viserys)

Characters alive per family:

Stark - 4 (Jon, Sansa, Arya, Bran)
Greyjoy - 4 (Theon, Yara, Euron, Aeron)
Lannister - 3 (Cersei, Jaime, Tyrion)
Tully - 3 (Edmure, Roslin, Edmure & Roslin's baby)
Arryn - 1 (Robin)
Targaryen - 1 (Daenerys)
Baratheon - 0 (1 if you count bastard Gendry)
Tyrell - 0
Bolton - 0
Martell - 0
Frey - 0

Would be really interesting to see a map and see where all of the characters have died. Looking at that list the large majority of them have died within castles and strongholds, hardly any in battle or while travelling.

[Locke.]

After seeing the quality of the leaked episode, I think I'll just wait.

There are 2 versions, depending on where you're looking. The one I watched was HD with perfect sound, but the first one I attempted to watch was pretty average quality with terrible sound.

[Mystic Mock]

I think the relationship is cannon actually

From what I've heard from book fans they don't even meet in the books and it's very telling as it's really bad writing from the show imo as they're rewriting the fact that Daenarys is not really the most open and trusting to someone that she barely knows, yet she's already falling in love with Jon Snow? It's the only storypoint at the moment imo where there's gaping errors in the writing away from the action scenes which imo action scenes are suppose to be unrealistic to make them exciting.

[user104658]

There are 2 versions, depending on where you're looking. The one I watched was HD with perfect sound, but the first one I attempted to watch was pretty average quality with terrible sound.

But the HD one is washed out quite badly (blacks are an obvious mid-grey) and the stutter on action and camera panning is so bad that I actually lost track of who was who in a few battle scenes.

My wife didn't notice either issue though so it might be down to the individual.

The stutter is less on the "tinkered with" SD version, but still present, and the resolution is worse than 480p.

For anyone who can dodge the spoilers I'd say wait for true 720/1080p on Monday. I'm going to try my best to if there are any more leaks :worry:.

[Jamesy]

There's a lot of problems with the writing this season, although I can't imagine it's easy for the writers, now that the show has gone beyond the books and they have no source material to work from. I doubt when they started making Game of Thrones they believed they would be writing everything themselves towards the end. GRRM obviously gives them the plot points, but it must be difficult to fill in the blanks.

I can't help but feel the show could have done with another series or two. After 6 seasons that have moved slowly, to this season which is moving as sonic speed and characters are teleporting across the world between scenes, I'm finding it difficult to be as immersed in the storyline.

It's still one of the best shows on TV and I love the characters and battle scenes. I feel something is missing this season though, compared to previous seasons.

[Smithy]

There's a lot of problems with the writing this season, although I can't imagine it's easy for the writers, now that the show has gone beyond the books and they have no source material to work from. I doubt when they started making Game of Thrones they believed they would be writing everything themselves towards the end. GRRM obviously gives them the plot points, but it must be difficult to fill in the blanks.

I can't help but feel the show could have done with another series or two. After 6 seasons that have moved slowly, to this season which is moving as sonic speed and characters are teleporting across the world between scenes, I'm finding it difficult to be as immersed in the storyline.

It's still one of the best shows on TV and I love the characters and battle scenes. I feel something is missing this season though, compared to previous seasons.

Either that or they should have sped up other parts of the show earlier, towards the end of S5 it felt like they were dragging it out as much as possible in the hopes that by the time S6 started the next book would have been released and it wouldn't have been as much of a spoiler for book readers, now obviously they're past that point so it just feels like they're steaming ahead

[Locke.]

But the HD one is washed out quite badly (blacks are an obvious mid-grey) and the stutter on action and camera panning is so bad that I actually lost track of who was who in a few battle scenes.

My wife didn't notice either issue though so it might be down to the individual.

The stutter is less on the "tinkered with" SD version, but still present, and the resolution is worse than 480p.

For anyone who can dodge the spoilers I'd say wait for true 720/1080p on Monday. I'm going to try my best to if there are any more leaks :worry:.

I didn't notice any of this tbh. But then again I don't have Sky Atlantic in HD so I usually watch episode in worse quality than this leak anyway.

[RileyH]

Tyrell - 0

Margaeary, Lady Olenna & Loras :bawling::bawling::bawling:

[Tom4784]

That was probably the worst episode of GoT ever.

And it was all because of the poor TV-esque forced conflict between Sansa and Arya as well as the continued out of nowhere Dany paranoia at the beginning.

Neither Arya or Sansa are dumb but they are being made purposefully dumb in order to force this storyline along. Arya would have understood Sansa's perspective if this was any other season and Sansa wouldn't have been dumb enough to buy into Littlefinger's obvious plot. It's contrived and it's piss poor writing. The plot should fit around the characters, characters shouldn't be changed to fit the plot.

Dany questioning everyone that has stuck with her thus far for no other reason then to create a bit of conflict is equally annoying especially considering her scenes in the last half of the episode where she felt like a completely different character. The paranoia scenes go against everything they've developed with Dany so far and they stick out like a sore thumb. She's a positively schizophrenic character at this point and it's purely down to these poorly written scenes. It makes no narrative sense for Daenerys to doubt Tyrion after everything, it's just another forced plot contrivance.

The rest of the episode with the Westeros Avengers beyond the wall was really good but the bad writing in the other scenes just completely ruined the episode for me. I liked how it ended although I admit I'm getting quite bored of the White Walkers, there's only so much you can do with a villain that is essentially a force of nature rather than a character especially in a show like this which is very much character focused. Unless the Night King suddenly becomes chatty and interesting, I'm not looking forward to a potential season of him. I'm hoping my theory from last week is correct and they are dealt with quickly as the main narrative pull of the White Walkers is seeing how everyone will work together and the writers have set up that alliance already and it'll probably happen in the next episode. Anything else in the White Walker storyline ultimately feels like padding.

Viserion's death was well done and sad although the first trailer for this season that showed a dragon with blue eyes spoiled the twist and we could have done without. It's nice that the writers remembered for a few moments that Daenerys isn't a random paranoid mess too and I liked the cementing of the alliance between her and Jon.

Poor Thoros gettting such a crappy death.

[user104658]

I do feel like they've set up a potential swift end to the Walkers now, with the realisation that killing a walker kills all of those "under" that walker... And so if someone can kill the Night King, the rest will be dust. Most likely scenario would be Dany et al leading a huge battle as a distraction while Jon gets in close for the kill.

I just sort of wonder where they go after that though? Switch back to the war for the throne? There's not that much of Westeros left to rule at this point... Half the ancient noble houses are extinct and no one really cares anymore :joker:

[Tom4784]

I do feel like they've set up a potential swift end to the Walkers now, with the realisation that killing a walker kills all of those "under" that walker... And so if someone can kill the Night King, the rest will be dust. Most likely scenario would be Dany et al leading a huge battle as a distraction while Jon gets in close for the kill.

I just sort of wonder where they go after that though? Switch back to the war for the throne? There's not that much of Westeros left to rule at this point... Half the ancient noble houses are extinct and no one really cares anymore :joker:

Thankfully, in my opinion. I feel like the only juicy part of the White Walkers storyline if it lasted a season would be how you'd get everyone working together and they've set how that will happen up in the space of two episodes. I say give us a big feature length episode with everyone vs the White Walkers next season and be done with it. The White Walkers are basically a plot device for big spectacles, I don't think there's a need to drag their storyline out any further and risk the spectacle getting boring and overplayed.

The rest of next season will be about Dany vs Jon, a second Dance of Dragons, if you will. Jon's true heritage will be revealed and they'll end up turning on each other. The whole shipping of them this season is setting them up for a tragic storyline next season I think.

[Smithy]

Jon doesn't want the throne, why would he turn on her

[user104658]

I read a theory that

Jon will ride the Wight/Ice Dragon. With the dragons connection to the targaryen bloodline extending beyond death, Jon will manage to take control of it in battle and it will turn on the walkers. Apparently there's been a theory about an ice dragon floating about for ages; some speculating that there might be one frozen inside the wall... But it'll now probably be viseryon. :omgno:.

It does make sense for the "song of ice and fire", with Jon being g "ice".

[Niamh.]

I read a theory that

Jon will ride the Wight/Ice Dragon. With the dragons connection to the targaryen bloodline extending beyond death, Jon will manage to take control of it in battle and it will turn on the walkers. Apparently there's been a theory about an ice dragon floating about for ages; some speculating that there might be one frozen inside the wall... But it'll now probably be viseryon. :omgno:.

It does make sense for the "song of ice and fire", with Jon being g "ice".

Oh I love that theory, I hope it happens

[Niamh.]

That was probably the worst episode of GoT ever.

And it was all because of the poor TV-esque forced conflict between Sansa and Arya as well as the continued out of nowhere Dany paranoia at the beginning.

Neither Arya or Sansa are dumb but they are being made purposefully dumb in order to force this storyline along. Arya would have understood Sansa's perspective if this was any other season and Sansa wouldn't have been dumb enough to buy into Littlefinger's obvious plot. It's contrived and it's piss poor writing. The plot should fit around the characters, characters shouldn't be changed to fit the plot.

Dany questioning everyone that has stuck with her thus far for no other reason then to create a bit of conflict is equally annoying especially considering her scenes in the last half of the episode where she felt like a completely different character. The paranoia scenes go against everything they've developed with Dany so far and they stick out like a sore thumb. She's a positively schizophrenic character at this point and it's purely down to these poorly written scenes. It makes no narrative sense for Daenerys to doubt Tyrion after everything, it's just another forced plot contrivance.

The rest of the episode with the Westeros Avengers beyond the wall was really good but the bad writing in the other scenes just completely ruined the episode for me. I liked how it ended although I admit I'm getting quite bored of the White Walkers, there's only so much you can do with a villain that is essentially a force of nature rather than a character especially in a show like this which is very much character focused. Unless the Night King suddenly becomes chatty and interesting, I'm not looking forward to a potential season of him. I'm hoping my theory from last week is correct and they are dealt with quickly as the main narrative pull of the White Walkers is seeing how everyone will work together and the writers have set up that alliance already and it'll probably happen in the next episode. Anything else in the White Walker storyline ultimately feels like padding.

Viserion's death was well done and sad although the first trailer for this season that showed a dragon with blue eyes spoiled the twist and we could have done without. It's nice that the writers remembered for a few moments that Daenerys isn't a random paranoid mess too and I liked the cementing of the alliance between her and Jon.

Poor Thoros gettting such a crappy death.

I did love the episode but

I agree with you about the Arya/Sansa scenes, I hate that they're making me dislike Arya when she's been my favourite character from the start

[user104658]

I did love the episode but

I agree with you about the Arya/Sansa scenes, I hate that they're making me dislike Arya when she's been my favourite character from the start

My hope is that it'll all turn out to be some sort of ruse against Littlefinger... like they've been onto him from the start and know he's hiding in the shadows watching (not least because it makes ZERO sense that Arya wouldn't know she's being watched) and so, knowing that his plan is to cause division between them, they're "playing along" to let him think that he's winning. Once they figure out what he's actually up to they'll both turn on him.

That's my hope anyway :worry:. Otherwise they've just undone 7 seasons of character development for both of them :think:.

[Niamh.]

My hope is that it'll all turn out to be some sort of ruse against Littlefinger... like they've been onto him from the start and know he's hiding in the shadows watching (not least because it makes ZERO sense that Arya wouldn't know she's being watched) and so, knowing that his plan is to cause division between them, they're "playing along" to let him think that he's winning. Once they figure out what he's actually up to they'll both turn on him.

That's my hope anyway :worry:. Otherwise they've just undone 7 seasons of character development for both of them :think:.

Yeah, that's literally the only scenario that will redeem all this stuff tbh

[user104658]

Yeah, that's literally the only scenario that will redeem all this stuff tbh

It's him standing watching Arya that really gets me! Like there was an entire half season long storyline where she was blind, for several months... it was a huge part of what made her into such a great assassin... it was what allowed her to defeat The Waif in a fight completely in the dark... and yet she doesn't know that Littlefinger is hiding in the shadows 10 feet away when she comes out of Sansa's room? :think:

[Niamh.]

It's him standing watching Arya that really gets me! Like there was an entire half season long storyline where she was blind, for several months... it was a huge part of what made her into such a great assassin... it was what allowed her to defeat The Waif in a fight completely in the dark... and yet she doesn't know that Littlefinger is hiding in the shadows 10 feet away when she comes out of Sansa's room? :think:

Yeah exactly, which is why if they don't do what you said I'll be really disappointed, it's a terrible error on the writers part

I do wonder what GRRM had planned with this storyline because in the books it was never Sansa who married Ramsay so presumably she would be in a completely different head space to TV Sansa

[Novo]

Can someone pm me a link to the episode, before I read any spoilers, cheers.

[Tom4784]

Jon doesn't want the throne, why would he turn on her

Out of necessity.

He's the rightful king if the Targaryen line takes the throne again which is going to lead to conflict with Dany since his existence invalidates her claim. Jon will likely have to go to war as a means of defence as Dany will reluctantly have to fight for her right to rule. I think it's going to be the main conflict in Season 7 which would be interesting since it would be different to the wars in previous seasons since there wouldn't likely be a clear cut villain and hero as it would be a war of circumstance and necessity. Neither side want to hurt the other but only one of them can survive.

[Tom4784]

It's him standing watching Arya that really gets me! Like there was an entire half season long storyline where she was blind, for several months... it was a huge part of what made her into such a great assassin... it was what allowed her to defeat The Waif in a fight completely in the dark... and yet she doesn't know that Littlefinger is hiding in the shadows 10 feet away when she comes out of Sansa's room? :think:

It's painfully bad writing, they are rewriting parts of her journey to try to make this storyline make sense. It's inconsistent and dumb.

[Locke.]

Jon will never fight Daenerys for the throne. He's not an entitled brat like she is. If she dies then he'll give up his title in the North and take it, but wouldn't otherwise.

Ep6

After this episode I think it's time for Jon to just remain out of battles tbh. Him and Robb are polar opposites in this sense. Jon makes the smart choices when it comes to alliances and plotting, Robb won every battle he went into and tactically outclassed every battle commander he came up against, including Tywin, Jaime, and the Mountain. I don't think we've actually seen Jon win a battle of his own accord yet

[user104658]

Jon will never fight Daenerys for the throne. He's not an entitled brat like she is. If she dies then he'll give up his title in the North and take it, but wouldn't otherwise.

Ep6

After this episode I think it's time for Jon to just remain out of battles tbh. Him and Robb are polar opposites in this sense. Jon makes the smart choices when it comes to alliances and plotting, Robb won every battle he went into and tactically outclassed every battle commander he came up against, including Tywin, Jaime, and the Mountain. I don't think we've actually seen Jon win a battle of his own accord yetYeah, Jon is great IN a battle, up there with the best fighters in the show... And he's a good leader/king also - but he's not a tactician. Most leaders aren't, Rob was an exception, most have "Generals" (such as Cersei having Jaime, or Dany having various tactical advisors) and plan the broad strokes, rather than individual battle plans.

[Brother Leon]

I don't think Jon is supposed to be a master tactician though. He's just a badass fighter who will always lead the line with his people, hence why he often finds himself in ****.

His resume is pretty insane considering he's killed White Walkers and fought Wights,Wildlings,Thenns,Nights Watch Traitors and Boltons and is still knocking about.

[Locke.]

Think the only person that has beaten Jon in single combat is the Night's Watch mutineer that killed Lord Commander Mormont isn't it. Jon was down and out and one of Craster's daughters interfered and handed him the win

Here it is, feels so much longer ago than season 4

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[user104658]

Think the only person that has beaten Jon in single combat is the Night's Watch mutineer that killed Lord Commander Mormont isn't it. Jon was down and out and one of Craster's daughters interfered and handed him the win

Here it is, feels so much longer ago than season 4

1KhygzMwmt4I'd also say that even though it's only 3 seasons ago, he was actually still pretty "green" at that point. His main downfall is recklessness... Throwing himself in against unwinnable odds (staring down the Boltons alone, and charging a million Wights on foot...) . Which is, I suppose, why he doesn't make a good tactician either. He has more of a Wilding than Soldier mentality really, which I suppose goes all the way back.

[user104658]

Or I guess you could see it as... He has a fiery Targeryen temper, unlike the other Stark kids, who have all been quite cold and calculating in different ways.

[King Gizzard]

This has no relevance to anything but wish they never killed Mance

Sure I read he gets saved in the books and is replaced by someone else

[Niamh.]

This has no relevance to anything but wish they never killed Mance

Sure I read he gets saved in the books and is replaced by someone else

Yeah in the books

Melisandre does a spell to make another wildling look like Mance and that's who's killed, she gives Mance a ruby that makes him look like the wildling (like the one she wears that makes her look young

[Mystic Mock]

I read a theory that

Jon will ride the Wight/Ice Dragon. With the dragons connection to the targaryen bloodline extending beyond death, Jon will manage to take control of it in battle and it will turn on the walkers. Apparently there's been a theory about an ice dragon floating about for ages; some speculating that there might be one frozen inside the wall... But it'll now probably be viseryon. :omgno:.

It does make sense for the "song of ice and fire", with Jon being g "ice".

If they do that then it's just more bull**** stuff to give Jon Snow all because the TV writers clearly like his character the most.

[Smithy]

Had a dream last night that I was riding Rhaegal chasing Cersei (who was trying to escape on a motorbike) and i just kept screaming dracarys trying to kill her :joker:

[Glenn.]

Omfg I had a dream I was flying on a dragon around work.

[Denver]

Im half way through series 2 and after hating on this for years im now obsessed

[King Gizzard]

Can't wait to find out what happens tonight !!!

[Shaun]

right then let's livepost this

Gendry being roasted
Jorah getting a nice moment, totally not going to die is he
Arya/Sansa beef
Arya being an unreasonable dickhead all along </3 what an unfortunate sudden character flaw
Sansa DESTROYING her :clap1: :clap1: :clap1:

ok @ "dick, i like it"
tormund/the hound are the friendship this show needs, though

it's really hard to like Beric after what he was like in Fortitude. I wonder if he (the actor) gets bored of snow :(

daenerys being a size queen? no wonder smithy stans

this show would drastically improve if tyrion shot daenerys on the toilet too

oh an evil polar bear!

welp bye thoros

LEG IT LADS!!!!

erm when did Gendry split up from the rest of them I am not losing him now

oh this stakeout around the frozen sea is rather scary

erm the lord of light isn't just going to turn out to be Dany is it? not here for that

do none of the wights own a bow & arrow? i mean...

brienne doing her utmost to expose littlefinger :clap1:

oh daenerys has a nice seasonal white "killing wights" outfit, that's nice

skeletor getting bold and making his way across the ice <3

THIS IS A LOT

DRAGONS!!! BOY I HOPE THEY PULL THROUGH TONIGHT'S SHOW!!!

...oh :(

BENJEN!

...oh :(

more unnecessary arya being a bitch stuff :idc: go **** yourselves with this BS @writers

UM PLEASE DON'T SAY THEY CAN MAKE A WIGHT DRAGON? OH THEY CAN OK

[Brother Leon]

Was so much better on TV. Now that the episode has aired, it's safe to openly post about it. It all makes sense now as to why the Night King has been taking his time. He obviously saw this happen with his Greenseeing and was awaiting the opportunity to capture a Dragon. I imagine this is how he breaks the wall now.

Jon bending the knee and suddenly falling in love sucks and is out of character, but tbh the Northern Lords are snakey twats anyway and don't deserve a King like Jon and the Scene was nice. Night King and a Dragon = Game Over. He took Viserion down with ease and would probably to the same to the others. Bran is our last hope and Saviour.

Oh and shouts to Uncle Benjen. What a man. Our true protector until the very end. :clap1:

[King Gizzard]

He could have easily just whisked Jon up onto the horse though, that annoyed me. I know he can't pass the wall but he could have got to safety..or at least say "I can't go beyond the wall" and not "there's no time" when he had time to dismount the horse and walk over to Jon..I know it happened for the drama and story but it was stupid. Jack and Rose on the door part two

Would love to have seen him in the final battle next season

[Niamh.]

He could have easily just whisked Jon up onto the horse though, that annoyed me. I know he can't pass the wall but he could have got to safety..or at least say "I can't go beyond the wall" and not "there's no time" when he had time to dismount the horse and walk over to Jon..I know it happened for the drama and story but it was stupid. Jack and Rose on the door part two

Would love to have seen him in the final battle next season

:laugh2:

He was keeping the walkers busy to give Jon time to escape though, also maybe he was fed up of riding around dead and stuff

[King Gizzard]

Yeah but they take 8337373 years to travel so the writers want us to believe so he could have moonwalked and still got away..

[King Gizzard]

Hope that whole kill a white Walker and the people he's raised die too thing doesn't apply to the Night King or that would be the biggest cop out ever. I assume the other white walkers wouldn't die, and it just applies to whites? He didn't raise the other WW's from the dead so to speak..he turned them when they were still alive as babies..

Would be cool go see white walker children next season..

[Niamh.]

Hope that whole kill a white Walker and the people he's raised die too thing doesn't apply to the Night King or that would be the biggest cop out ever. I assume the other white walkers wouldn't die, and it just applies to whites? He didn't raise the other WW's from the dead so to speak..he turned them when they were still alive as babies..

Would be cool go see white walker children next season..

They'll probably kill the night King last anyway

[Brother Leon]

He could have easily just whisked Jon up onto the horse though, that annoyed me. I know he can't pass the wall but he could have got to safety..or at least say "I can't go beyond the wall" and not "there's no time" when he had time to dismount the horse and walk over to Jon..I know it happened for the drama and story but it was stupid. Jack and Rose on the door part two

Would love to have seen him in the final battle next season

Yeah, that annoyed me too, but I suppose he must be so fed up of being half dead and figured this was the right time to sacrifice himself.

As for the White Walker reveal, I think it was always assumed that if they somehow killed the Night King then the war would be over. Problem is, that isn't going to be easy by any means.

[Babayaro.]

Tormund being dragged underneath the ice was actually horrifying, would have been one of the worst deaths IMO (The Hound :love:). I kind of expected Benjen to save Jon at some point but it felt very random and forced lmao. Overall a brilliant episode. :clap1:

[Scarlett.]

I read a theory that

Jon will ride the Wight/Ice Dragon. With the dragons connection to the targaryen bloodline extending beyond death, Jon will manage to take control of it in battle and it will turn on the walkers. Apparently there's been a theory about an ice dragon floating about for ages; some speculating that there might be one frozen inside the wall... But it'll now probably be viseryon. :omgno:.

It does make sense for the "song of ice and fire", with Jon being g "ice".

Would make more sense if he rode the dragon named after his father, lol

[Novo]

Benjen's whole purpose in the story was obviously set up for that moment, they showed how close Benjen and Jon were in the very first episode of the show when Jon wanted to go with Benjen up north but Benjen said it was to dangerous, the scene fitted their relationship perfectly + it's like one Beric said to Jon They have been brought back for a reason whilst looking at the Nights King, the way I look at it making Benjen survive would have been utterly pointless (what's he going to do? Chill at Castle Black with Edd) well done death and his purpose was served, RIP and night night Vienna.

[Novo]

Yeah in the books

Melisandre does a spell to make another wildling look like Mance and that's who's killed, she gives Mance a ruby that makes him look like the wildling (like the one she wears that makes her look young

Yeah was a good twist that, If I remember right think Mance takes the appearance of Rattleshirt (lord of bones), Jon goes to battle him but gets completely destroyed and beaten in single combat and is bewildered by it, which is when it's start to be revealed it was actually Mance he fought

[Niamh.]

If I remember right think Mance takes the appearance of Rattlesnake, Jon goes to battle him but gets completely destroyed and beaten in single combat and is bewildered by it, which is when it's start to be revealed it was actually Mance he fought

Didn't he go to Winterfell too and help rescue Fake Arya and then get captured by Ramsay?

[Novo]

Didn't he go to Winterfell too and help rescue Fake Arya and then get captured by Ramsay?

think so yeah, their are so many people that have been captured or bring held prisoner by Ramsay, Roose, or Stannis in the last book though, hard to keep up at times :think:

[Niamh.]

think so yeah, their are so many people that have been captured or bring held prisoner by Ramsay, Roose, or Stannis in the last book though, hard to keep up at times :think:

as far as I remember he went posing as a musician with some of the women wildlings to try and rescue Fake Arya with Theons help, Theon escaped with Fake Arya and fled to where Stannis army was camped and Mance got captured along with the women (who were mostly killed I think) That's where his story was at when the book finished I think

[Josy]

I havent watched the latest episode yet so avoiding spoilers

Just wondering if anyones noticed this though..for months Stuart has been saying to me that he thinks Bran is somehow connected to the night king that he looks like him and possibly even is him and at first i couldnt see it but the more i look at them the more i see them to look similar, is anyone else seeing this :think:

[Locke.]

as far as I remember he went posing as a musician with some of the women wildlings to try and rescue Fake Arya with Theons help, Theon escaped with Fake Arya and fled to where Stannis army was camped and Mance got captured along with the women (who were mostly killed I think) That's where his story was at when the book finished I think

The last book finished with Jon receiving a letter from Ramsay saying he had killed Stannis and captured Mance, but we never actually read about any of that happening so most people think it's just bull**** from Ramsay. Obviously Stannis and Mance both dying in the show might mean it was true after all though

[Smithy]

Good point someone brought up was where tf did they get those massive metal chains? The wildlings know nothing about metalworks

[Locke.]

I havent watched the latest episode yet so avoiding spoilers

Just wondering if anyones noticed this though..for months Stuart has been saying to me that he thinks Bran is somehow connected to the night king that he looks like him and possibly even is him and at first i couldnt see it but the more i look at them the more i see them to look similar, is anyone else seeing this :think:

Yeah seen a few people say that now. Can't really see it myself but I do think they have the same abilities

[Brother Leon]

I havent watched the latest episode yet so avoiding spoilers

Just wondering if anyones noticed this though..for months Stuart has been saying to me that he thinks Bran is somehow connected to the night king that he looks like him and possibly even is him and at first i couldnt see it but the more i look at them the more i see them to look similar, is anyone else seeing this :think:

There's a theory out there that Bran went back in time and became the Night King, but I think it's just a theory.

[King Gizzard]

There's theories that he's loads of historical people down the years all at once, Bran the Builder etc etc


The show will never touch on it though. Doubt they'll touch on much Bran stuff before the end of the show

[King Gizzard]

Plus we saw the Night King be turned by the children of the forest last season or the season before, wasn't Bran..

At least I thought it was the Night King

http://tuningintoscifitv.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/GOT605_COF-make-the-Night-King.jpg

[Smithy]

The bran theory makes no sense, how can he live twice at the same time? how can he touch himself in two different forms

[Shaun]

Josy starting a Bran discussion just because she hasn't seen the ****ery that goes down in the most recent episode, smfh

[Josy]

Omfg at that episode

[Brother Leon]

Josy starting a Bran discussion just because she hasn't seen the ****ery that goes down in the most recent episode, smfh

Omfg at that episode

:joker:

[Ross.]

Amazing

[Niamh.]

I havent watched the latest episode yet so avoiding spoilers

Just wondering if anyones noticed this though..for months Stuart has been saying to me that he thinks Bran is somehow connected to the night king that he looks like him and possibly even is him and at first i couldnt see it but the more i look at them the more i see them to look similar, is anyone else seeing this :think:

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/TenseConcernedBluefish-size_restricted.gif

[Locke.]

Ned, Robb, and Jon have worn similar outfits to that as well though, it's just the Northern attire

[Locke.]

Finale is called "The Dragon and the Wolf" so could finally be one of the characters getting confirmation of Rhaegar and Lyanna being Jon's parents, or could just be a generic Jon and Dany title (but Jon technically isn't a Wolf)

[bots]

i think Bran will be pivotal in the final episode. He has the power to take control of the ice? dragon and use it to see off the big dude

[MTVN]

Terrible episode. Ruined Arya's character, dumb plan that was obviously going to end badly does end badly, loads of plot holes, Jon now decides to bend the knee because he fancies Daenerys (him calling her Dany was just embarrassing), they kill off the extras while all the main characters miraculously survive, suddenly the existence of half the characters like Yara doesn't seem to matter any more

Thought there were going to be some major twists and stuff this episode, instead pretty much everything was predictable :idc:

[bots]

Terrible episode. Ruined Arya's character, dumb plan that was obviously going to end badly does end badly, loads of plot holes, Jon now decides to bend the knee because he fancies Daenerys (him calling her Dany was just embarrassing), they kill off the extras while all the main characters miraculously survive, suddenly the existence of half the characters like Yara doesn't seem to matter any more

Thought there were going to be some major twists and stuff this episode, instead pretty much everything was predictable :idc:

i think they are preparing to kill Arya off.

[Locke.]

Great episode for Arya, all building up to her being the one outsmarting Littlefinger and him dying next week.

[Novo]

Imagine if Stannis didnt get butchered and went with Jon's gang past the wall, the Nights King wouldn't have even had chance to throw the Javelin, his head would have been cut clean off

[Locke.]

Couldn't even outsmart Tyrion who has ****ed up every single battle plan of Dany's this season so I don't think he'd stand a chance against the Night King I'm afraid, save it to the pros like the Stark's

[Novo]

Then again I say butchered but pretty sure he is still in that forest soewhere waiting for the stupid starks to butcher each other before invading alone

[Babayaro.]

Imagine if Stannis didnt get butchered and went with Jon's gang past the wall, the Nights King wouldn't have even had chance to throw the Javelin, his head would have been cut clean off

Imagine Robb. Even better.

[Locke.]

Imagine Robb. Even better.

Very true. Then again Robb would have finished the Night King years ago before he managed to raise an army this big

[Novo]

Robb pretty much betrayed Ned didn't he, Ned obviously supported Stannis's claim and it got him killed but then Robb decided to be selfish and not bend the knee to Stannis, absolute fool that guy

[Locke.]

Just realized actually, in the show Robb has a 100% success rate when it comes to battles and Stannis has 0%, amazing isn't it

[Babayaro.]

Just realized actually, in the show Robb has a 100% success rate when it comes to battles and Stannis has 0%, amazing isn't it

And both get **** deaths

[Novo]

Ned had more faith in Stannis then Robb, pretty much got it spot on though since Robb died and Stannis is still out in the forest outside winterfell

[Locke.]

And both get **** deaths

Legendary death for Robb. Red Wedding was the chapter in the books that convinced the showrunners they wanted to make a TV show out of the book series. You could say actually that Robb is the only reason we're all watching the show now, just too good isn't he

[Novo]

Just realized actually, in the show Robb has a 100% success rate when it comes to battles and Stannis has 0%, amazing isn't it

Robb would never have saved Jon the way Stannis did against the Wildings, would have **** himself when he saw the mammoths but Stannis rode head on against them

[Novo]

Robb getting out smarted by a 99 year old man who stinks of gin and piss

[Locke.]

Stannis getting beat by Tywin who Robb had run rings about for months on end beforehand. Robb wearing the old bastard out and sending him insane and Stannis still got beat by him, unbelievable

[Babayaro.]

Legendary death for Robb. Red Wedding was the chapter in the books that convinced the showrunners they wanted to make a TV show out of the book series. You could say actually that Robb is the only reason we're all watching the show now, just too good isn't he

I mean **** in terms of how they both couldn't really do anything about it lol. Robb's is easily one of the most memorable though.

[Novo]

Closest Robb came to taking kings landing was winning pointless battles miles away where as Stannis actually got on the walls, if Robb did his job and actually finished tywin off then the bellend wouldn't have come and ruined the party would he?

[Locke.]

You could almost say that avoiding King's Landing was a smart move by Robb considering Stannis couldn't even defeat a clueless drunk dwarf there

[Novo]

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/gameofthrones/images/c/c3/Robb_Dead.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/2000?cb=20150404003654

Look at the state of this man, never fit to call himself a king after getting embarrassed by a 99 year old

[Locke.]

That look when you realize you burned your daughter and one heir alive just to be butchered by a 7 foot woman

http://i.imgur.com/mcdUJC3.jpg

[Novo]

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4q05uC1Ay1qcpmr4o1_500.gif

When youve survived the Dwarf's wildfire and are heading to the shores of kings landing thinking to yourself " Robb Stark will never get this far "

[Novo]

https://media.giphy.com/media/xT4uQdW85ZA7RogpuU/giphy.gif

When you realise that shag wasnt worth it and you have been outplayed by the caretaker from Harry Potter

[Nicky91]

okay i'm thinking that the white walkers might invade Winterfell, and a few main characters might die there, maybe Littlefinger, i don't know but i can see the producers killing off Sansa, we've now already had a little fight between her and Arya, i might think they lack storylines now for Sansa, maybe Meera but Bran might save her somehow

[MTVN]

I wonder if the scorpion will be what ends up getting used against the ice dragon :think: the other dragons might refuse to attack it or not be able to for some reason. Whack a bit of dragonglass on one of those spears, get Bronn on the case and Qyburn suddenly becomes the hero of the seven kingdoms

[Niamh.]

Great episode for Arya, all building up to her being the one outsmarting Littlefinger and him dying next week.

I hope that's what they're planning for her otherwise they've ruined her character

[Nicky91]

I hope that's what they're planning for her otherwise they've ruined her character

exactly, and her trying to talk some sense into Sansa was also great


despite Arya being very small, she comes over really mature with good common sense, and she's also one of my fave characters :clap1:

[Locke.]

I hope that's what they're planning for her otherwise they've ruined her character

My take on it all was Sansa was the one willing to do Arya damage (sending Brienne away straight after the scene of Littlefinger saying Brienne has to remain loyal to both the Stark girls and would have to intervene in any harm being done to the other) and Arya was just letting Sansa know that despite her having a whole load of men loyal to her, she's still the one with the power. I think we're supposed to believe that Littlefinger is playing them both excellently like he has done throughout the whole show but we'll find out that with everything they've been through it's now the Stark girls playing him and it will (finally) be the end for him.

If it turns out after everything they're both still being played by LF that would be terrible so I'd have to join in on the bashing then.

[Nicky91]

yeah but i must say the actor who played Littlefinger, he played his part really really well :)

[Brother Leon]

Sansa sent out Brianne because she realised Littlefinger is happy to try and use her for his game. Sansa has this under control and I think Arya thinks she does too in her own way. They are both trying to take down Littlefinger in their own way without talking to each other.

[King Gizzard]

I sort of thought that whole Sansa sending Brienne away was because of when he said "Brienne would be forced to intercede if one of his daughters was in danger" meaning Arya would be easier to kill if Brienne wasn't there. And next week they'll find out Littlefinger sent the raven to Sansa saying she was needed in KL..there aren't official invitations to the meet up in KL yet, and if there was, why would people in winterfell need to go? They already know there's White Walkers

Although Sansa could kill Brienne easily so

The whole storyline is sloppy and doesn't make much sense. Can't wait for t to be resolved

[Smithy]

The night king if they bring the wall down next week

http://i.imgur.com/47Rv1Fq.gif

[Nicky91]

I sort of thought that whole Sansa sending Brienne away was because of when he said "Brienne would be forced to intercede if one of his daughters was in danger" meaning Arya would be easier to kill if Brienne wasn't there. And next week they'll find out Littlefinger sent the raven to Sansa saying she was needed in KL..there aren't official invitations to the meet up in KL yet, and if there was, why would people in winterfell need to go? They already know there's White Walkers

Although Sansa could kill Brienne easily so

The whole storyline is sloppy and doesn't make much sense. Can't wait for t to be resolved

cause Sansa said she has hundreds of guards protecting her :hehe:

she simply doesn't need Brienne that much :fan:

[bots]

12 hours till the season finale:worry:

[Nicky91]

is it another long episode like the last episode :amazed:

[bots]

79 nerve jangling minutes

[Nicky91]

79 nerve jangling minutes

wow :D

[user104658]

cause Sansa said she has hundreds of guards protecting her :hehe:

she simply doesn't need Brienne that much :fan:I don't think Arya would have any trouble with bog standard Winter fell guards though :shrug:. Then again, while it would be a tough one on one fight with Brienne... Unless Sansa was glued to Brienne's side 24/7 then Arya would have no trouble getting past her either.

However I don't think there will be an Arya / Sansa confrontation anyway, I think both will confront Littlefinger. My guess would be either both confronting him and him fleeing Winterfell and getting away, OR Sansa confronts him but lets him leave Winterfell, then Arya takes him out before he gets far.

[Brother Leon]

Can't believe it's the Finale already....

Also can't believe there are 7 episodes until it completely ends..

[Nicky91]

I don't think Arya would have any trouble with bog standard Winter fell guards though :shrug:. Then again, while it would be a tough one on one fight with Brienne... Unless Sansa was glued to Brienne's side 24/7 then Arya would have no trouble getting past her either.

However I don't think there will be an Arya / Sansa confrontation anyway, I think both will confront Littlefinger. My guess would be either both confronting him and him fleeing Winterfell and getting away, OR Sansa confronts him but lets him leave Winterfell, then Arya takes him out before he gets far.

yep i agree

[Adamw92]

I'm so nervous and excited for this, I may have been a little naughty and read some spoilers but I'm so hyped for this.

[Brother Leon]

I'm ready..

[Shaun]

bracing myself

[bots]

bracing myself


its a bit good :joker:

[Brother Leon]

Oh Jon...learn to White Lie my dear boy..

[Shaun]

stupid man.

[bots]

the iron isles guy was a bit of an arse

[Shaun]

I know Cersei's a bit unhinged but I struggle to see how she blames Tommen's death on Tyrion

[bots]

jon's going to give Dany one riding bare back on a dragon

[Shaun]

DO NOT BE DUMB, SANSA :fist:

[bots]

DO NOT BE DUMB, SANSA :fist:

he is a real worm tongue

[bots]

i smell an unlikely hero

[Shaun]

have they just seriously used Theon's absence of a dick as a plot point for him supposedly not being a weak piece of ****?

[bots]

have they just seriously used Theon's absence of a dick as a plot point for him supposedly not being a weak piece of ****?

lol yes, a well placed knee has no effect :laugh:

[bots]

woooooooooooooooooo

[Shaun]

:omgno:

I'll miss old Littlefinger. He was a creep but a great creep. (if he dies that is)

[bots]

ive been waiting on this :cheer2:

[bots]

ohhhhhhhjhj **** yes

[Shaun]

D:

Such a weak death for such a major character though

[bots]

oh crap :worry:

i thought jamie was done for there

[bots]

awkward looooooooooooool

[Shaun]

More incest!

[Shaun]

Oh god :worry:

[bots]

now would be a good moment to crap it

[Shaun]

:umm2:

[bots]

well, that sets up the next series nicely

[Shaun]

RIP Tormund and Beric as well then :(

[Brother Leon]

Well. Holy ****. It's a wrap.




I can't believe we have to potentially wait 2 years now :(

[bots]

RIP Tormund and Beric as well then :(

looks a bit like it

[Shaun]

looks a bit like it

And Dolorous Edd? :( :( :(

I can't think who else (named) was at the Wall but there's probably others I'm forgetting

[bots]

And Dolorous Edd? :( :( :(

I can't think who else (named) was at the Wall but there's probably others I'm forgetting

winterfell must be easily within the reach of the dragon

[Brother Leon]

And Dolorous Edd? :( :( :(

I can't think who else (named) was at the Wall but there's probably others I'm forgetting

Yeah. Got to imagine everyone at Eastwatch and The Wall are done for :(

Bran is our last hope against the Dead Army. The boy about to tap into all that power and save Westeros after all the memes and jokes fired his way :clap1:


Also. I hope Bronn catches up with Jaime. I need Jaime and Bronn teaming up with the good guys to fight the Night King. That would be too beautiful.

[bots]

so much has got to resolve in the next series, its going to be action all the way

[Shaun]

Jaime being offed by Cersei (I'll ignore that it's a bit ridiculous since she spared Tyrion) pretty much clears the way for a Jaime/Brienne moment doesn't it :idc: she deserves better.

[bots]

its pretty obvious Dany is going to be pregnant too

[Brother Leon]

Jaime being offed by Cersei (I'll ignore that it's a bit ridiculous since she spared Tyrion) pretty much clears the way for a Jaime/Brienne moment doesn't it :idc: she deserves better.

Consider I've Tormund looks to be dead(:(. I shipped them hard). It has to be Jaime and Brienne now. Meh, I can live with it.

[Locke.]

Solid episode. I'm not sure how I feel about Jon's name really being what it is though. There is a seperate living character in the book with the same name who invades Westeros before Daenerys does, seems a bit crap if they do just bind them both together (even if it is just a name).

Think my favourite scene was probably the Theon and Jon conversation. Theon really needed to hear that, and everything Jon said will also apply to himself next season when he finds out that he isn't a Stark either. Great acting from both too.

Littlefinger... I'm glad he's dead but I'll kinda miss him. Always enjoy that actor in everything he pops up in, and considering he orchestrated pretty much everything we've seen happen (besides the Walkers) it'll be a shame he doesn't see it out until the end. Good death though, outwitted by the girl he taught the game to, and finished off by both her and Arya who he severely underestimated.

Glad that the Wall finally came down and the Walkers crossed. Interested to see how they drag it out for 6 episodes now though, surely they'll arrive at Winterfell in Episode 1 because it's a fairly short journey, and you'd imagine Jon and Dany will already be there. Not sure how they can defeat them really..... I think Tormund and Beric are still alive, we didn't see them die so there is no way they actually are. They'll probably link up with Edd and the remaining Night's Watch members from Castle Black (as the Walkers crossed at Eastwatch which is much further along) and trail the army of dead.

The Cersei and Jaime scene was really good and for a moment I actually thought he was going to die. He had enough of Cersei's crap quite early in the books so it's great to see that FINALLY happen in the show. Like Leon said hopefully Bronn goes with him, no point in him remaining in King's Landing now really. The shot of the snow arriving in KL was a good touch too.

Bran and Sam conversation and then voiceover explaining everything was great.

Only thing missing for me really was a battle between the Hound and Mountain. Been waiting forever for it and really thought we were getting it this week. Hard to see how it will ever happen now.

[Locke.]

Some good theories here from Reddit for next season. The second from bottom one would actually be pretty incredible, I hope something similar to it happens.

The good guys march on to Winterfell and defend it against the Night King.

Cersei sent Euron over to ferry the Golden Company, but Theon gets in his way. Theon saves Yara and dies, at the same time killing Euron. Euron's flagship sinks along with the remaining gold; Golden Company slips back to Essos. -END of THEON, YARA, EURON arc-

Cersei, in a desperate gambit, marches all her forces north to confront Daenerys/Jon while they're weakened. Hound meets Mountain in combat. CLEGANEBOWL GET MOTHER****IN' HYPED! Hound is mortally wounded but says '**** it' and uses fire to kill his brother (because The Mountain is undead, durrrr!) -END OF HOUND/MOUNTAIN/CLEGANEBOWL arc-

Cersei tries to get Qyburn to blast the dead and Daenerys/Jon armies with wildfire but Jaime stops the plan. Qyburn dies and his experiment fails. Cersei surrounded by wildfire. Jaime joins Cersei to die in the flames. -END OF CERSEI/JAIME arc-

Jon tries to fight NK using good ol' Longclaw but finds that it has no effect. It can only kill the WW lieutenants but not the big bad endgame boss himself. NK tosses Jon away and he's knocked unconscious.

Un-Viserion kills Rhaegal who also gets zombified. NK with two un-dragons attacks Dany's forces. Drogon joins the fight and kills both un-Viserion and un-Rhaegal but is also mortally wounded. Drogon dies - the last dragon. -END OF DRAGON arc-

Dany falls of Drogon and NK clutches her by the throat. Dany shouts to Jon who wakes up. She bids Jon to 'finish it' - and Jon plunges Longclaw thru both Dany and NK. Because the Azor Ahai prophecy means that he must kill his 'wife' in the end, Jon fulfills it by killing Dany. Dany bursts into magical flames and so does the sword - turning into pure magical energy. The flames burn thru the Night King and destroy him. -END OF DANY and NIGHT KING-

Jon returns to Winterfell and is told that he is a Targ and not a Stark. Jon and Sansa then get married - a Targaryen on the Iron Throne, and a Stark remaining in Winterfell. Arya and Gendry meet again and decide to go on an adventure, they stop by an inn to meet Hot Pie. Sam becomes Bran's new Hodor.

[bots]

overall, a really great series for me. Definitely one of my favourites

[Nicky91]

overall, a really great series for me. Definitely one of my favourites

mine too :)

[Locke.]

Just rewatched the finale

Found the final scene with the White Walkers attacking much more effective this time around. Think I was too on the edge of my seat to take it in first time round.

Agree though, this was my favourite season since S3.

[bots]

Just rewatched the finale

Found the final scene with the White Walkers attacking much more effective this time around. Think I was too on the edge of my seat to take it in first time round.

Agree though, this was my favourite season since S3.


the wall coming down was outstanding.

This episode had so many good bits. Littlefinger being taken out with a flick from Arya, Jon and Dany getting together while Jon's heritage was revealed :joker:. Having no balls being an advantage at several plot points ... i mean wtf :laugh: .... So many highlights in one episode, i couldn't list them all

[Smithy]

The night king if they bring the wall down next week

http://i.imgur.com/47Rv1Fq.gif

Welp!

[Smithy]

RIP Tormund and Beric as well then :(

Not yet!!

[Smithy]

Overall thoughts

not surprised Cersei double crossed Dany, I expected it to begin with, but not the second time when she agreed to it, genuinely thought Jamie was going to kill her and fulfill the prophecy

Jamie's obv gonna ride north, catch up with Dany and tell them about cerseis double crossing

Can't believe no one has actually asked dan what the **** is going on and they're just letting him sit by a tree on his own and know it all by himself :facepalm:

The ending skfgshfa I can't even, why is Viserion rotted so much already, the cold would surely preserve him more, the wall coming down was amazing, can't believe we have to wait a year and here's only SIX episodes left, gah!

OH also, there is no way Jon will accept the throne, Dany is the one with the dragons and the army she is the one who has come to conquer, she won't just hand it over

[Adamw92]

I am shook. I don't know if I can survive the wait until Season 8 though.

Also

BOAT SEX. :dance:

That is all. :laugh:

[Brother Leon]

Still think S6 was better, but this was a very enjoyable season. I actually enjoyed the fast pace.

[Tom4784]

I thought it was pretty great, one of the better finales.

I still don't think that the Army of the Dead is the end game though, unless the Night King can talk and they develop him into an actual character and not just a force of nature then he won't be the main villain. The White Walkers are the framing device that provides spectacle, not the main attraction.

I'm so disappointed in Cersei </3 Bitch should have helped and then betrayed everyone when they were weakened after fighting.

I'm glad they finally bumped Littlefinger off, it was a weak end but it redeemed Sansa and Arya's terrible arcs this season. He probably should have been given a bigger ending back when he was still relevant tbh.

I loved the bit with The Hound and Brienne and also Brienne telling Jamie to **** honour to get Cersei on side was rather wonderful. I hope Brienne gets more screentime next season.

Bran finally telling someone about Jon :clap1: It only took him a ****ing season to do so. Poor Sam still not knowing what happened to his family though.

The ending was spectacular although it does bother me that Viserion is still able to fly with MASSIVE HOLES IN HIS WINGS! I don't think Tormund is dead though, They would have shown it on screen given that he is a fan favourite character. They only give offscreen deaths to flop characters like Stannis.

Also was that Viserys' actor playing Rhaegar? It looked a lot like him.

[Shaun]

Not yet!!

As much as I like them, even by this show's standard, for them to survive that would be a ridiculous stretch

[user104658]

As much as I like them, even by this show's standard, for them to survive that would be a ridiculous stretch

I dunno, it took the dragon a good few minutes to take down the wall, in theory enough time for them to rappel down the other side and start riding west (along the wall). The AotD head straight south once they're through the wall so, so long as they were off the wall, they could feasibly have survived.

Randomly one of my fav moments of the episode... Sansa and Arya...

Arya: "I believe that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me..."
Sansa: "Well... don't get used to it... you're still very strange and annoying."

:joker: Such a rando genuine "sibling moment" thrown it with all the drama. Plus she IS quite strange...

[Smithy]

As much as I like them, even by this show's standard, for them to survive that would be a ridiculous stretch

i think they'll have just ran along the wall rather than down it, you saw tormund watch as parts started to fall so it wouldn't surprise me

[Nicky91]

I dunno, it took the dragon a good few minutes to take down the wall, in theory enough time for them to rappel down the other side and start riding west (along the wall). The AotD head straight south once they're through the wall so, so long as they were off the wall, they could feasibly have survived.

Randomly one of my fav moments of the episode... Sansa and Arya...

Arya: "I believe that's the nicest thing you've ever said to me..."
Sansa: "Well... don't get used to it... you're still very strange and annoying."

:joker: Such a rando genuine "sibling moment" thrown it with all the drama. Plus she IS quite strange...



i actually like Arya a lot more now than Sansa, i like tough badass girls, while sometimes not all the times i find Sansa a bit whiny, just a bit though

[Brother Leon]

Still a little pissed that we have to wait 2 years or so for a Jon and Arya reunion :(.

[Smithy]

It's not going to be 2019, they start filming in October, so probs it'll be oct/Nov next year when it airs

[RileyH]

Dany's entrance into King's Landing :clap1:

[Brother Leon]

It's not going to be 2019, they start filming in October, so probs it'll be oct/Nov next year when it airs

That would be a lot more reasonable. Not sure where I got 2 years from :laugh:

[Lostie!]

So I spent the whole season saying "yeah I'll catch up this week" and never did, but at least now I have a whole season to binge all at once (even if I've already read everything that happened :laugh:)

[user104658]

That would be a lot more reasonable. Not sure where I got 2 years from [emoji23]I think there was a murmur of "might be 2019" at one point, although I think even that was about early 2019 so more like 18 months from now than two full years. But I think mid September / early October 2018 is probably a realistic guess, with the finale then being late October / early November.

[Shaun]

We may not have to settle for Brienne/Jaime after all!!!!!!!

https://68.media.tumblr.com/44cd3fe52f6908205245113f1c12e589/tumblr_ovdr3ofYOc1r8q56qo1_r1_400.gif

[Smithy]

TV Ratings: 'Game of Thrones' Finale Hits Record High with 16.5 Million Viewers

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/tv-ratings-game-thrones-finale-hits-record-high-165-million-viewers-1032897

Smashed its own records rating again (unsurprisingly)

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

are we all in agreement that cerslay won that episode

[RileyH]

are we all in agreement that cerslay won that episode

Agreed :clap1:

[Locke.]

Yeah, she secured a certain death for next season and lost the only truly loyal person she had left all in one episode, a masterclass.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Yeah, she secured a certain death for next season and lost the only truly loyal person she had left all in one episode, a masterclass.

still the most entertaining character tho!!

[Brother Leon]

Lena Heady needs some awards though. She's been awesome for 7 seasons now.

[_Tom_]

What a masterpiece to end the season :love:

[user104658]

Just had a thought about Jaime... Presumably he's heading to North to join the fight now, as he was adamant that he had pledged to do so and wasn't going to back out even if it was just him on his own, so he'll be headed for Winterfell...

... Are they going to accept him with open arms, given that the last time he was there, he pushed Bran out of a window in an attempted murder that paralysed him from the waist down? :think:

I mean... Yeah... Littlefinger manipulated the war by setting up the Lannisters as having tried to kill Bran by assassin. However... That sort of overlooks the fact that a Lannister did ACTUALLY try to kill Bran, for the same reasons, a short time earlier :joker:.

I guess he'll make a convincing case for himself and Brienne and Tyrion will vouch for him. Plus Bran will probs be all "beep bop boop I can see he is genuine beep boopy boop and I like being paralysed anyway".

[bots]

Just had a thought about Jaime... Presumably he's heading to North to join the fight now, as he was adamant that he had pledged to do so and wasn't going to back out even if it was just him on his own, so he'll be headed for Winterfell...

... Are they going to accept him with open arms, given that the last time he was there, he pushed Bran out of a window in an attempted murder that paralysed him from the waist down? :think:

I mean... Yeah... Littlefinger manipulated the war by setting up the Lannisters as having tried to kill Bran by assassin. However... That sort of overlooks the fact that a Lannister did ACTUALLY try to kill Bran, for the same reasons, a short time earlier :joker:.

I guess he'll make a convincing case for himself and Brienne and Tyrion will vouch for him. Plus Bran will probs be all "beep bop boop I can see he is genuine beep boopy boop and I like being paralysed anyway".

logic would suggest that he suffer the same fate as the other chap recently given that he basically wiped out the Stark household when they were at Kings landing which led to their fathers execution. Also he did kill the mad king, so he isnt going to be a favourite with Dany either :joker: He is going to have to pull something big out the bag to compensate for that ... one would think it would have to involve betrayal of Cersei

[Niamh.]

Great finale, thank god they didn't ruin Arya and Sansa, that was perfect, time for Little finger to die.

I had a thought about the Prince that was promised prophecy, apparently he/she needs to forge a sword from fire and the blood of someone he loves so my guess is either Jon will have to kill Dany to make the sword that defeats the night king or Dany will have to kill Jon. GRRM has said the end will be bitter sweet....

[Smithy]

Yeah, she secured a certain death for next season and lost the only truly loyal person she had left all in one episode, a masterclass.

Literally going to say this :joker: she's the only person that's now 100% going to die next year

[user104658]

logic would suggest that he suffer the same fate as the other chap recently given that he basically wiped out the Stark household when they were at Kings landing which led to their fathers execution. Also he did kill the mad king, so he isnt going to be a favourite with Dany either :joker:

I dunno, he's not really like Littlefinger. For one, he didn't want Ned to be executed, he had a lot of respect for him and although he brought him in, he believed that Ned was going to be forced to "bend the knee" and make some sort of public statement - he was visibly horrified when bloodthirsty little Joffrey was like "LOL off with his head". All of the Lannisters were shocked, actually. I mean, Tyrion was still a full-blood Lannister at the time, too, and they all seem to be OK with him.

As for being Kingslayer, Daenerys is pretty accepting of the fact that her father was insane and brutal and would probably accept that his death was for the good of the kingdom. She also never knew him personally (was just a baby at the time) so there's no real emotional connection.

He also didn't particularly like the Red Wedding iirc and felt it was sort of "cheating" to not face Rob in battle.

In terms of morality (incest aside, heh) he's been pretty much "good" throughout... just on the "wrong side". Except like I said... he did push little Bran out of a window... :umm2:...

[Niamh.]

I dunno, he's not really like Littlefinger. For one, he didn't want Ned to be executed, he had a lot of respect for him and although he brought him in, he believed that Ned was going to be forced to "bend the knee" and make some sort of public statement - he was visibly horrified when bloodthirsty little Joffrey was like "LOL off with his head". All of the Lannisters were shocked, actually. I mean, Tyrion was still a full-blood Lannister at the time, too, and they all seem to be OK with him.

As for being Kingslayer, Daenerys is pretty accepting of the fact that her father was insane and brutal and would probably accept that his death was for the good of the kingdom. She also never knew him personally (was just a baby at the time) so there's no real emotional connection.

He also didn't particularly like the Red Wedding iirc and felt it was sort of "cheating" to not face Rob in battle.

In terms of morality (incest aside, heh) he's been pretty much "good" throughout... just on the "wrong side". Except like I said... he did push little Bran out of a window... :umm2:...

That's kind of a big thing :laugh: Did Bran actually remember that he pushed him in the end? My recollection of all that is fuzzy now. I mean do they all know that he was the one who did that? (Bran probably does now either way with his warging skills)

[Locke.]

I doubt Bran will even care any more. Like what Meera said to him, he's not really Bran anymore. He'll probably just feel the same way about that as he does about any other bad event he witnesses in his visions. Either way, Jaime's there to help and they've been begging for people to help so they're not going to start killing those that turn up to do so

[user104658]

That's kind of a big thing :laugh: Did Bran actually remember that he pushed him in the end? My recollection of all that is fuzzy now. I mean do they all know that he was the one who did that? (Bran probably does now either way with his warging skills)

He didn't remember or tell anyone about it before becoming the three-eyed raven I guess... they mostly thought it was an accident. Though I'm sure I remember Ned guessing that the Lannisters had tried to assassinate Bran to cover up "something he had seen" and inferred that he (Ned) knew about Cersei and Jaime. But I'm sure it was his guesswork rather than Bran having said anything. And of course, the Lannisters weren't even behind the assassination attempt.

But yeah, obviously Bran will know what happened now, as he knows everything apparently. However since he's not "really Bran" any more, he might speak to Jaime in private, tell him that he knows what happened but that it doesn't matter / that Jaime has a role to play, and then he won't tell anyone else?

[Niamh.]

I doubt Bran will even care any more. Like what Meera said to him, he's not really Bran anymore. He'll probably just feel the same way about that as he does about any other bad event he witnesses in his visions. Either way, Jaime's there to help and they've been begging for people to help so they're not going to start killing those that turn up to do so

I suppose if they forgive Theon (ish) then they''ll forgive Jaime too

[user104658]

I doubt Bran will even care any more. Like what Meera said to him, he's not really Bran anymore. He'll probably just feel the same way about that as he does about any other bad event he witnesses in his visions. Either way, Jaime's there to help and they've been begging for people to help so they're not going to start killing those that turn up to do so

True, especially someone who is probably the best military strategist left in Westeros... Tyrion will likely plead that case for him, Dany will insist that he bend the knee and declare her his queen, he'll be all conflicted about that for a few mins but then he'll remember that Cersei is bat**** crazy and do it.

And then as he seems to now take his oaths quite seriously, he'll have to kill Cersei to protect Daenerys, fulfilling the prophesy of the little brother killing her. Hmmm.

Although I just read an interesting theory about how Cersei will die. The prophesy that says "little brother" will kill her also states that she will have three children who will die... but now she's pregnant. So the theory is, she is pregnant with a boy (a "little brother" to her three children who are now dead) and she will die in childbirth, like her mother did giving birth to Tyrion, therefore being "killed by the little brother", and poetic as a huge part of her bitterness is in blaming Tyrion for her own mother's death.

[MTVN]

There was no requirement for the Lannister's to submit to Daenarys when they accepted the offer of help so they can't really demand anything from Jaime or punish him when he's the only Lannister who has actually honoured the agreement

[Niamh.]

Great finale, thank god they didn't ruin Arya and Sansa, that was perfect, time for Little finger to die.

I had a thought about the Prince that was promised prophecy, apparently he/she needs to forge a sword from fire and the blood of someone he loves so my guess is either Jon will have to kill Dany to make the sword that defeats the night king or Dany will have to kill Jon. GRRM has said the end will be bitter sweet....

Seriously though, this is going to be how it ends, isn't it? :bawling:

[Scarlett.]

True, especially someone who is probably the best military strategist left in Westeros... Tyrion will likely plead that case for him, Dany will insist that he bend the knee and declare her his queen, he'll be all conflicted about that for a few mins but then he'll remember that Cersei is bat**** crazy and do it.

And then as he seems to now take his oaths quite seriously, he'll have to kill Cersei to protect Daenerys, fulfilling the prophesy of the little brother killing her. Hmmm.

Although I just read an interesting theory about how Cersei will die. The prophesy that says "little brother" will kill her also states that she will have three children who will die... but now she's pregnant. So the theory is, she is pregnant with a boy (a "little brother" to her three children who are now dead) and she will die in childbirth, like her mother did giving birth to Tyrion, therefore being "killed by the little brother", and poetic as a huge part of her bitterness is in blaming Tyrion for her own mother's death.

It'd be great if that prophecy turned out to be false, and that Cersei's reaction to it had just created a self fulfilling prophecy all along.

[bots]

i have a feeling that it could come full circle with Jamie again being the slayer, killing Cersei and returning Dany and or Jon to the throne

[user104658]

i have a feeling that it could come full circle with Jamie again being the slayer, killing Cersei and returning Dany and or Jon to the throneI was thinking that, but more with him NOT wanting to be king slayer again. I think he will swear an oath to Daenerys (or at this point, once all the Targ stuff comes out, Jon?) and then he'll be faced with a choice towards the end; kill the king/queen he's now sworn to or go with family loyalty. And I think he would choose not to "kingslay" again and off Cersei or, at least, not step in to save her.

[bots]

I was thinking that, but more with him NOT wanting to be king slayer again. I think he will swear an oath to Daenerys (or at this point, once all the Targ stuff comes out, Jon?) and then he'll be faced with a choice towards the end; kill the king/queen he's now sworn to or go with family loyalty. And I think he would choose not to "kingslay" again and off Cersei or, at least, not step in to save her.

i can see Jamie and the hound teaming up with the hound taking out his brother and jamie taking out his sister

[Niamh.]

i can see Jamie and the hound teaming up with the hound taking out his brother and jamie taking out his sister

Or the Hound could kill Cersei and that would fulfill Maggie the Frogs prophecy as well because he's The Mountains "little brother"

[bots]

Or the Hound could kill Cersei and that would fulfill Maggie the Frogs prophecy as well because he's The Mountains "little brother"

there is just too long for us to speculate .... Araya has the hound And Cersei on her list too :laugh:

[Niamh.]

there is just too long for us to speculate .... Araya has the hound And Cersei on her list too :laugh:

She took The Hound off though technically because she had the chance to finish him off when Brienne fought him but she chose not to

[Brother Leon]

All I care about for next season tbh.

https://media.giphy.com/media/eEm9ToiILnPJm/giphy.gif

[Smithy]

Imagine if the Night King gets to winterfell before Jon and Dany and kills them all </3

[user104658]

Imagine if the Night King gets to winterfell before Jon and Dany and kills them all </3Nah I don't think so, the army of the dead basically moves as slowly as it's slowest shuffler to stay together. The ice dragon could get there in a day, but the Night's King doesn't know where Dany is, and for all he knows she's there with two dragons, so he would be risking himself and his one dragon flying on ahead without his army.

Whereas Jon and Dany are going by ship which is basically warp speed according to GoT.

I mean... Jon and Co got all the way from where Viserion died, to Eastmarch by dragon, then on to Dragonstone and finally King's Landing... In the time it took for the army of the dead to walk a distance that Gendry RAN in one go (one would assume no more than maybe 4 or 5 hours running at a push...).

So it'll take them several weeks to get from Eastmarch to Winterfell.

[user104658]

OK so in realistic terms, the shuffly Wights are probably doing at most 1 or 2 miles per hour, whereas the ships will be doing 8 knots or so, roughly 10mph.

They should definitely get there well in advance of the dead.

[reece(:]

I'm so over Cersei, can't wait for ha head on a stick.

[Scarlett.]

OK so in realistic terms, the shuffly Wights are probably doing at most 1 or 2 miles per hour, whereas the ships will be doing 8 knots or so, roughly 10mph.

They should definitely get there well in advance of the dead.

Also, Last Hearth, the home of House Umber is the most northern settlement, they'd reach there long before Winterfell, Winterfell is in the middle of the North.

[Smithy]

Nah I don't think so, the army of the dead basically moves as slowly as it's slowest shuffler to stay together. The ice dragon could get there in a day, but the Night's King doesn't know where Dany is, and for all he knows she's there with two dragons, so he would be risking himself and his one dragon flying on ahead without his army.

Whereas Jon and Dany are going by ship which is basically warp speed according to GoT.

I mean... Jon and Co got all the way from where Viserion died, to Eastmarch by dragon, then on to Dragonstone and finally King's Landing... In the time it took for the army of the dead to walk a distance that Gendry RAN in one go (one would assume no more than maybe 4 or 5 hours running at a push...).

So it'll take them several weeks to get from Eastmarch to Winterfell.

OK so in realistic terms, the shuffly Wights are probably doing at most 1 or 2 miles per hour, whereas the ships will be doing 8 knots or so, roughly 10mph.

They should definitely get there well in advance of the dead.

Oh yeah, ofc i know it'd never happen, just a thought

Although considering Viserion already has holes in his wings after one episode i doubt he'll even make it very far into next season

[Scarlett.]

I'm wondering if the Night King is gonna hit Kings Landing first? They made a big point of the city being home to 1 million people, it would strategically be the best move, they'd be able to hit from the south too then, with a whole new army of the dead.

Let's not forget this too, from Dany's vision.
http://i.imgur.com/4ZIoAsil.jpg

[Brother Leon]

Imagine the Night King went into Winterfell Crypts and revived all those that are there. Undead headless Ned kicking ass :laugh:

[RileyH]

I kinda want the Night King to win the war, but I know it won't happen

[King Gizzard]

He probably is a nicer bloke than most of the others

[Locke.]

I hope we get to see them attacking some of the smaller castles along the way to Winterfell. I know that throughout season 7 the Northerners have all been heading to Winterfell to wait out the winter, which they made a point of with Sansa demanding all of the food so there would be enough to feed everyone, but surely there would still be a small few left to man each castle. Plus Castle Black still has all of the Night's Watch members there, so we should see something happen there.

It's a bit of a weird one really. Realistically the army of the dead should arrive at Winterfell in either ep1 or ep2 of S8, they can't drag it out for longer than that because everyone is in the one place now with nothing to do other than sit and wait, but at the same time there is no way the battle lasts for 4/5 episodes. I think maybe it will be similar to the finale of Lord of the Rings, they have the main battle with the biggest threat and lose some characters, and then march to the final battle with a lesser threat to ensure the aim of everything is completed (in this case, I'd say despite him not wanting it, Jon marches on King's Landing for the throne as Dany worked so hard to return the Targs there and he's the last chance of making it happen, after she died at Winterfell so that Jon could fulfill the Azor Ahai prophecy that Niamh was posting about earlier).

It would be pretty cool if the Night's King somehow made it to King's Landing and made Cersei his Queen though.

[Scarlett.]

It would be pretty cool if the Night's King somehow made it to King's Landing and made Cersei his Queen though.

He has a undead dragon that can fly even faster than Dany's two remaining dragons, he could get there in no time, and decimate the city. Would be funny if Cersei's trump card, the Golden Company were turned into White Walkers - Undead Elephants! :shocked:

[Brother Leon]

I hope we get to see them attacking some of the smaller castles along the way to Winterfell. I know that throughout season 7 the Northerners have all been heading to Winterfell to wait out the winter, which they made a point of with Sansa demanding all of the food so there would be enough to feed everyone, but surely there would still be a small few left to man each castle. Plus Castle Black still has all of the Night's Watch members there, so we should see something happen there.

It's a bit of a weird one really. Realistically the army of the dead should arrive at Winterfell in either ep1 or ep2 of S8, they can't drag it out for longer than that because everyone is in the one place now with nothing to do other than sit and wait, but at the same time there is no way the battle lasts for 4/5 episodes. I think maybe it will be similar to the finale of Lord of the Rings, they have the main battle with the biggest threat and lose some characters, and then march to the final battle with a lesser threat to ensure the aim of everything is completed (in this case, I'd say despite him not wanting it, Jon marches on King's Landing for the throne as Dany worked so hard to return the Targs there and he's the last chance of making it happen, after she died at Winterfell so that Jon could fulfill the Azor Ahai prophecy that Niamh was posting about earlier).

It would be pretty cool if the Night's King somehow made it to King's Landing and made Cersei his Queen though.

This reminds me...how big is Winterfell supposed to be to be having all of the North chilling there for Winter?

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I think Ep 1 would be them wiping out the Nights Watch as Jon arrives with Dany and we have the reunions and Dany having to prove herself. The White walkers probably arrive in episode 2.

[user104658]

Is there going to be a battle at castle black, though? They broke through the wall on the coast to the east - Castle Black is hundreds of miles west directly along the wall. The army looked like it was heading straight through the wall and marching south. Would they take a several hundred mile detour just to deal with the relatively small number left in the night's watch? It seems more likely that at most, they would send a small detachment of one White Walker and a few Wights, and Castle Black might even survive. For example, if Jon has already stocked them up with Dragonglass daggers and arrows (which seems likely), and the walkers don't know they have it so aren't expecting much of a defence...

Also if the theory a couple of pages back, about Tormund and Beric possibly escaping death by running along the top of the wall westwards, theoretically they could travel all the way along the wall to the west much faster than the Wights (even stopping to rest) and warn them / set up defences / or just have everyone leave for Winterfell (no point holding Castle Black if the wall is breached elsewhere)

[Locke.]

Thought this was interesting. Every character ranked in terms of minutes they've spent on screen.

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It's crazy how characters like Lyanna Mormont, Syrio Forel, The Night King, Robin Arryn, Benjen, Olly, and Hot Pie are despite only receiving 15 minutes of screentime or less. Also pretty mad how Ned is still all the way up in 13th despite being dead for 6 years.

[Nicky91]

Sansa above Arya, that's injustice, i really do think Arya is a so much better character, she should've had more screentime i think, i love female warriors/assassins :flutter:

[Brother Leon]

Interesting that Jaime is considered in the big 5 and will be paid that bumper salary for the last season when he's 7th and even Cersei is below Sansa.

[MTVN]

Do Gregor's minutes not include the time since he's been zombified cos surely he's been on screen more than that, he's always hovering around

Thought Hodor would have had more than 30 minutes as well

[Smithy]

Bran having more screentime than Brienne too, despite being absent for a whole season :conf2:

[user104658]

Little Lyanna Mormont on only 5 mins and one of the most popular characters :clap1:.

Also given his huge pop culture status... Only half an hour of Hodor!

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