Game of Thrones Thread

[Niamh.]

I hope they do cut them, I hate the Greyjoys

[Smithy]

If they cut it out completely that'd surely mean

That anything euron (? was it him that went after dany?) does isn't that important and he'll die before he does anything to get a dragon, cause something like that would be a massive plot shift?

:conf2:

[Niamh.]

yeah but does anyone really think that he was a proper contender anyway?

[Locke.]

If they cut it out completely that'd surely mean

That anything euron (? was it him that went after dany?) does isn't that important and he'll die before he does anything to get a dragon, cause something like that would be a massive plot shift?

:conf2:

Euron is the King and sent Victarion after Dany to bring her back and marry her to Euron, but Victarion plans on just marrying herself, I think. And has a dragon horn. From what we've seen of them so far I don't think merging them would be so bad, but cutting them altogether would change so much.

[Novo]

true, then again the only serious contenders are Stannis and Shireen

[Smithy]

Euron is the King and sent Victarion after Dany to bring her back and marry her to Euron, but Victarion plans on just marrying herself, I think. And has a dragon horn. From what we've seen of them so far I don't think merging them would be so bad, but cutting them altogether would change so much.
Oh yeah, their names are so similar it's confusing :facepalm:
true, then again the only serious contenders are Stannis and Shireen

do you actually believe that :suspect:

[Novo]

do you actually believe that :suspect:

More then any man living

[Niamh.]

:laugh:

[Smithy]

More then any man living

:worry:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

osha is the one true queen

[Novo]

Queens aren't meant to rule, that is a King's job

[MeMyselfAndI]

Why so sexist? We have a queen

[MeMyselfAndI]

I want Gendry to rule & he can have Arya as hand of the king

[Novo]

Thank God your not writing the books

[MTVN]

Can't wait till Arya tries to kill the Hound with her stupid sewing needle sword and then the Hound just snaps her neck lick a twig

[Stu]

The Sopranos is ****ing boring.

[Shaun]

you're ****ing boring

so there

[Locke.]

http://imgur.com/a/it9NC

I now want to be an extra on the show and attend the wrap parties

[Novo]

2 hours 30 minutes to go

http://cdn.thisisbigbrother.com/customavatars/avatar9597_570.gif

[Novo]

I'm not sure what to say after that

[JTM45]

I loved it!!!!
That's what you call an action from beginning to end episode with barely a breather in between.
It was a bit of a surprise to have an episode like this one following on from last weeks episode.

[Locke.]

Very good episode, they got the battle sequences spot on, I just hope they can get the next part right too.

Ep 9 spoiler

RIP Grenn & Pyp, the original bromance

https://24.media.tumblr.com/15a9bbcf81f8692f93262c8bcddb0926/tumblr_n6vtvrlceZ1qd7uhwo2_1280.jpg

[Smithy]

Brilliant episode, best of the season :worship: next weeks looks amazing

the only thing i didn't like was Ygritte dying in Jons arms, i'd have preferred it if he'd have found her like the book

[Iceman]

Unbelievable episode

[Smithy]

Looks like next week will have *Book Spoiler*
Drogon killing a child, Dany imprisoning Rhaegal & Viseron
Bran meeting the Children
Jon back with wildlings
Varys freeing Tyrion he kills Shae & Tywin before fleeing
Arya leaving the hound
Lady Stoneheart

:amazed:

[Jords]

Amazing battle!



Ygritte :sad:

Why?????? I found her character interesting I enjoyed when we catched up with her every now and then. It was quite good how it was that little Ollie kid though that shot the arrow.

Sad loss of Grenn and Pyp. It was no shock that Grenn died with that beast running towards the group (how the hell they managed to kill it I dont know), but Pyp's scenes with Sam were especially well executed.

ROOTING FOR JON SNOW. And Im pleased how Sam is somehow still alive and so is Gilly and her boy.

[Ramsay]

Wish that annoying bitch Gilly was killed instead of Ygritte :love:

[Shaun]

ygritte was a **** i'm glad she's dead

[MeMyselfAndI]

Best episode ever imo

I hope that boy who killed Ygritte died in the fight ugh, Why did Ygritte have to die, why not Gilly instead :(:(:(:(:(:(

At this rate Gilly & Hodor are gunna sit on the iron throne

[Josy]

http://m.memegen.com/jlshwy.jpg

I knew what was going to happen to Ygritte :smug: :hehe:

[MeMyselfAndI]

I knew what was going to happen to Ygritte :smug: :hehe:

It was so sad :(
I'm actually like depressed right now, I've never been so sad about a TV death, well not since Dawson's creek anyways

[Smithy]

It was so sad :(
I'm actually like depressed right now, I've never been so sad about a TV death, well not since Dawson's creek anyways

And you just know there's more to come :laugh:

[MeMyselfAndI]

As long as Tyrion, Jamie, Arya, Sansa, Cersei, Tywin, Varys, Littlefinger & Bronn don't die for a while I'll be fine

[Smithy]

:worry:

[Ramsay]

:umm2:

[MTVN]

It was pretty good as far as battles go but still don't like that it took up all the episode especially after the dramatic ending in KL last week, now we've gotta wait another week to see the fallout from then. Not that bothered about most of the characters on the wall as well, and they dedicate a whole episode to that battle when it doesn't seem to be that important in the grand scheme of things really, just Mance giving them an early test. The battle all seemed to end pretty quickly as well, one minute Mance's army were all over them, the next they'd pretty much all died and were retreating

[Novo]

The whole episode was perfect and exactly the way i visioned it in the book really especially the whole Giants and Mammoths bit and the Archers on the wall and the scene with the Giant ( looks like the whole meg thing being the last giant alive is finished then ) Tormund was great, much better then Mance in the TV Show, the only thing I didn't like was the end but the scene after that is more then capable of ending the series rather then stoneheart or some stupid dragon killing a kid

[Smithy]

next weeks ep is 15 minutes longer :D

[Locke.]

Anyone else that has read the books...

Think Mance's book storyline after the next episode is going to be given to Tormund instead?

They've ignored Mance so much on the show, and they seem to be getting away from the magical elements as much as they possibly can so it'd give them a way to avoid the whole Melisandre switch between Mance and the Lord of Bones when they kill him. Mance is one of my favourite characters in the books but I really don't like the actor in the role at all... Would be pretty good seeing the Onion Knight give him a killer blow in the finale as well

[Novo]

Davos holding Mance up and Stannis taking swings like a pro boxer left right and centre at his face whilst Jon looks on in bemusement

[BBUKAUSFAN]

:nono: Hannah Murray is amazing she shall never die :nono:
Long live Gilly :lovedup:

[Niamh.]

Looks like next week will have *Book Spoiler*
Drogon killing a child, Dany imprisoning Rhaegal & Viseron
Bran meeting the Children
Jon back with wildlings
Varys freeing Tyrion he kills Shae & Tywin before fleeing
Arya leaving the hound
Lady Stoneheart

:amazed:

wow, that's alot to fit in one episode

[Tom4784]

It was a great episode, I wish they'd do more episodes focused on a single story because Blackwater and Watchers on the Wall have both been fantastic.

[Locke.]

Interesting to see what episode 9 is next year, I'm hoping it's

Either the battle at Winterfell between Stannis and Roose or the battle at Mereen with those lot. Seems like they'll both be in the first few chapters of book 6 and next season will cover all of book 4/5, so hopefully they bring one of them forward a tiny bit. Can't think of what else it would be, there isn't anything else that big really.

[Shaun]

just seen it

:lovedup:

[Shaun]

that awkward moment when

pyp's death is more emotional and upsetting than ygritte's, tho

[Niamh.]

^

Never got the Ygritte love, she was annoying in the book and even more so in the TV series

[Locke.]

I liked her in the books but didn't like her in the show til this season. Tormund is better though.

Pyp and Grenn though >>>

[Shaun]

Can we build a scythe on TiBB to take out that social groups guy, please?

[smeagol]

well ep 9 was great, really enjoyed that, but without sounding like a broken record we need longer episodes. just isnt enough . ep 10 already and just isn't room to fit it all in one episode.

[Josy]

well ep 9 was great, really enjoyed that, but without sounding like a broken record we need longer episodes. just isnt enough . ep 10 already and just isn't room to fit it all in one episode.

15 minutes longer next week.

[smeagol]

15 minutes longer next week.

thats good. i'd prefer 30 thou but i am greedy :dance:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

that episode was dULL

no cersei = no show

[Tom4784]

Shut your ***** mouth Scott. It was wonderful.

I'm so excited for next week's though.

BOOK SPOILERS
Zombie Catelyn slaying bitches left right and centre <3

[Iceman]

Shut your ***** mouth Scott. It was wonderful.

I'm so excited for next week's though.

BOOK SPOILERS
Zombie Catelyn slaying bitches left right and centre <3

I really hope this happens midway trough the episode and not at the end...

[Niamh.]

Shut your ***** mouth Scott. It was wonderful.

I'm so excited for next week's though.

BOOK SPOILERS
Zombie Catelyn slaying bitches left right and centre <3

You see Dezzy, you can't be posting Book Spoilers like that and then blame me when i think you've read the books :hmph:

[Locke.]

Pretty interesting, total amount of screentime characters have had up to the end of the third season

1. Tyrion Lannister – 166:15 (1,2,3; 28)
2. Daenerys Targaryen – 127:35 (1,2,3; 25)
3. Jon Snow - 126:41 (1,2,3; 24)
4. Arya Stark - 100:11 (1,2,3; 27)
5. Eddard Stark – 94:35 (1; 9)
6. Catelyn Stark – 91:14 (1,2,3; 25)
7. Cersei Lannister – 90:02 (1,2,3; 27)
8. Robb Stark - 89:16 (1,2,3; 22)
9. Sansa Stark - 85:42 (1,2,3; 24)
10. Theon Greyjoy – 84:11 (1,2,3; 23)

11. Jorah Mormont – 72:18 (1,2,3; 24)
12. Jaime Lannister – 71:25 (1,2,3; 19)
13. Samwell Tarly - 61:48 (1,2,3; 19)
14. Petyr Baelish - 60:00 (1,2,3; 19)
15. Bran Stark - 57:56 (1,2,3; 21)
16. Varys - 57:17 (1,2,3; 18)
17. Joffrey Baratheon - 54:22 (1,2,3; 23)
18. Tywin Lannister - 49:39 (1,2,3; 19)
19. Davos Seaworth – 44:00 (2,3; 10)
20. Ygritte – 42:55 (2,3; 12)

21. Shae – 40:45 (1,2,3; 16)
22. Brienne of Tarth - 39:38 (2,3; 14)
23. Gendry – 39:14 (1,2,3; 17)
24. Sandor Clegane – 39:03 (1,2,3; 21)
25. Bronn – 36:54 (1,2,3; 16)
26. Stannis Baratheon – 36:45 (2,3; 12)
27. Margaery Tyrell – 32:51 (2,3; 10)
28. Talisa Maegyr – 32:25 (2,3; 12)
29. Melisandre – 32:22 (2,3; 10)
30. Osha –30:53 (1,2,3; 14)

31. Robert Baratheon – 29:38 (1; 7)
32. Grand Maester Pycelle – 28:38 (1,2,3; 15)
33. Khal Drogo – 27:20 (1,2; 10)
34. Barristan Selmy – 25:43 (1,3; 13)
35. Renly Baratheon – 25:26 (1,2; 8)
36. Maester Luwin – 24:22 (1,2; 14)
37. Jeor Mormont – 23:42 (1,2,3; 12)
38. Ros – 22:12 (1,2,3; 15)
39. Loras Tyrell – 21:54 (1,2,3; 11)
40. Viserys Targaryen – 20:15 (1; 5)

41. Gilly – 18:08 (2,3; 9)
42. Rodrik Cassel – 16:46 (1,2; 12)
43. Hot Pie – 15:47 (1,2,3; 10)
44. Thoros of Myr – 15:35 (3; 6)
45. Olenna Tyrell – 14:54 (3; 5)
46. Yoren – 13:48 (1,2; 7)
47. Ramsay Snow – 13:43 (3; 6)
48. Roose Bolton – 13:41 (2,3; 11)
49. Edmure Tully – 13:08 (3; 5)
50. Walder Frey - 12:26 (1,3; 3)

[MTVN]

Sansa, Samwell and Davos all with far too much

[Smithy]

LSH will be the end obviously a massive cliffhanger

[Niamh.]

Yup ^ I'd be very surprised if it wasn't that

[Iceman]

I just want to see a bit if screentime and not jave to wait a year :(

[Smithy]

Also, the emmy nominations have been submitted

Outstanding Drama Series
Outstanding Writing for a Drama Series- “The Children”
Outstanding Directing for a Drama Series: Alex Graves (“The Children”), Alik Sakharov (“The Laws of Gods and Men”), Neil Marshall (“The Watchers on the Wall”).
Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series- Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Charles Dance, Peter Dinklage, Kit Harington
Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series - Emilia Clarke, Natalie Dormer, Lena Headey, Sophie Turner, Maisie Williams
Guest Actor in a Drama Series: Pedro Pascal
Guest Actress in a Drama Series: Diana Rigg
Art Direction: “The Laws of Gods and Men,” “The Mountain and the Viper”
Outstanding Casting for a Drama Series
Oustanding Cinematography for a Single-Camera Series: “Mockingbird,” “Oathkeeper,” “The Lion and the Rose,” “Two Swords”
Sound Editing: “The Watchers on the Wall”
Sound Mixing: “The Watchers on the Wall”
Outstanding Costumes: “The Lion and the Rose”
Outstanding Hairstyling: “The Lion and the Rose”
Outstanding Make-up (Non-prosthetic): “Oathkeeper”
Outstanding Prosthetic Make-up: “The Children”
Stunt Coordination for a Drama Series, Miniseries or Movie
Outstanding Interactive Program – Game of Thrones Premiere: Facebook Live and Instagram

[Tom4784]

You see Dezzy, you can't be posting Book Spoilers like that and then blame me when i think you've read the books :hmph:

But I had the decency to mark it as a book spoiler :hmph: plus I've said loads that I haven't read the books but had that certain element spoiled for me.

You're still a life ruiner :hmph:

[Iceman]

Also, the emmy nominations have been submitted

Outstanding Drama Series
Outstanding Writing for a Drama Series- “The Children”
Outstanding Directing for a Drama Series: Alex Graves (“The Children”), Alik Sakharov (“The Laws of Gods and Men”), Neil Marshall (“The Watchers on the Wall”).
Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series- Nikolaj Coster-Waldau, Charles Dance, Peter Dinklage, Kit Harington
Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series - Emilia Clarke, Natalie Dormer, Lena Headey, Sophie Turner, Maisie Williams
Guest Actor in a Drama Series: Pedro Pascal
Guest Actress in a Drama Series: Diana Rigg
Art Direction: “The Laws of Gods and Men,” “The Mountain and the Viper”
Outstanding Casting for a Drama Series
Oustanding Cinematography for a Single-Camera Series: “Mockingbird,” “Oathkeeper,” “The Lion and the Rose,” “Two Swords”
Sound Editing: “The Watchers on the Wall”
Sound Mixing: “The Watchers on the Wall”
Outstanding Costumes: “The Lion and the Rose”
Outstanding Hairstyling: “The Lion and the Rose”
Outstanding Make-up (Non-prosthetic): “Oathkeeper”
Outstanding Prosthetic Make-up: “The Children”
Stunt Coordination for a Drama Series, Miniseries or Movie
Outstanding Interactive Program – Game of Thrones Premiere: Facebook Live and Instagram

Pretty confident about the children then ha

[Roy Mars III]

Not a very good episode. The fighting was cool enough, but after watching a show like Spartacus (which had GOAT fight scenes) it was tame.

Way too much Sam and Gilly stuff as well. Both are terrible.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

*coven wins more than GoT*

[Iceman]

Not long to go.

[Smithy]

Think i'm gonna stream tonight, if anyone finds/has a HQ link can you post please :worry:

[Iceman]

Think i'm gonna stream tonight, if anyone finds/has a HQ link can you post please :worry:

Yeah this would be appreciated

[Smithy]

omg Eoin you stan Dany too :worship:

[Iceman]

Its her throne...all the others are just watching it for her.

[MeMyselfAndI]

True, I'm not that Kean on Dany, but the other alternates are awful :yuk:

[Glenn.]

Think i'm gonna stream tonight, if anyone finds/has a HQ link can you post please :worry:

I was going to stream but I want to watch it on my 55" :flutter:

[Smithy]

sounds like you're trying to compensate for the size of other things there glenn :hehe:

[Firewire]

Its her throne...all the others are just watching it for her.

Where is the lie?

[Smithy]

http://www.liveonlinetv247.com/hbo.php stream

[Locke.]

http://www.tgo-tv.com/watch/tv-show/game-of-thrones-live-stream.html

Have used that site for the past 2 episodes and it has been fine

[Novo]

:thumbs2:

[Smithy]

Heard a rumor bran was the last scene of the episode :umm2:

[Jords]

oh I missed when it started so I now have to wait :inamood:

[Smithy]

good ****ing bye at no lady stone heart

The episode was great aside from that though
Poor Jojen, didn't expect that

[Locke.]

Brilliant finale, best yet easily

[Novo]

Perfection

[Novo]

478363367359643648

:douf:

[Jords]

Will watch in the morning... pls its not full of boring Stannis is it :worry:

[Smithy]

No he has like 2 minutes thank The Lord

[Jords]

:cheer2:

[Novo]

In those two minutes he achieved more then the dragon abusing slut will ever in her lifetime

Now both of you get on your knees and show some respect to the saviour and the one true king by every law in Westeros

[Locke.]

This episode is the point in the books where Stannis starts to become the 2nd best character in the entire series (after Robb of course). It is time for you all to start showing him and the Onion Knight more respect

[Novo]

My top 5 characters after that series

#1 - Stannis ( a non mover since series 2)
#2. - Davos ( again a non mover since Series 2)
#3. - Jon ( Favourite in Season 1 since Stannis wasn't around then, he went down a bit throughout Season 2 but Season 3 after he ****ed off the wildings and left Ygritte behind and went back to Castle Black he got better again and he was great all the way through this season )
#4 - Salindhor Saan - the greatest pirate that has ever stepped foot into Westeros, one of the best scenes was him in a Braavos Bath with a pair of shores and then Davos just comes wondering in out of nowhere
#5 - Jorah - finally free of that silly little ***** after being used by her for to long

[Smithy]

"Daenerys gets hardly any airtime"

Still got more than stannis

http://i.minus.com/ieHcePFxvNUBM.gif

[MeMyselfAndI]

Stannis is barely on screen each season, the actor must barely get paid.

My top 5 Characters from S1-S4

1) Arya
2) Tyrion
3) Jamie
4) Sansa
5) Ygritte

[MeMyselfAndI]

Lol at your irrational hatred of Dany, '*****'

[Smithy]

I suppose i'd be upset too if my fave was irrelevant and about to have the throne they were working so hard for, taken by the real Azor Azhai http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/cry.gif

[Iceman]

Great finale

[Ramsay]

Dat arya and tyrion

[Jords]

SO good!

[Locke.]

After the Stannis arrival and Brienne vs The Hound, I think my favourite scene was

Varys hearing the bells and thinking "Ah **** it, I'm not cleaning this mess up" and getting on the boat and joining Tyrion. Think that will be a good change from the books, he'll just replace Illyrio in the story now.

[Novo]

Lol at your irrational hatred of Dany, '*****'

http://24.media.tumblr.com/3e8fa65ae7ac006905956690271983f0/tumblr_n79568PPBi1qmfr3fo8_250.gif

[Tom4784]

Great episode although

I'm so disappointed that Lady Stoneheart didn't appear. I'm guessing she'll probably make an appearance early next season if she's going to appear at all.

[Firewire]

Amazing finale

[MTVN]

****s sake at another two great characters dying, and what a bitch Arya is torturing the bloke who has saved her life about 734 times this series. Don't like the way the Lannister's are crumbling, the great Tywin not only killed but made to look like a fool dying on the bog and having been mugged off for years by Cersei

Not here for cripple boy being taught to fly by a tree either :idc:

[Locke.]

Don't think he's actually going to be flapping his arms and flying through the sky, just a theory at this point but I reckon he's gonna be taught to warg a dragon

[Tom4784]

I thought they just meant that he'd learn to control the raven.

[Glenn.]

"Daenerys gets hardly any airtime"

Still got more than stannis

http://i.minus.com/ieHcePFxvNUBM.gif

Where is the lie though?

http://i.imgur.com/FNZbOrh.gif

[Joelle.]

Amazing finale, especially the Kings Landing, Arya/Brienne and Jon/Stannis scenes. Loved Dany in the past but her scenes are getting more and more ****e. Also really enjoyed Brans scene for once, finally making his story more interesting. Not here for him flying or whatever though, and Jojen didn't get enough airtime for anyone to care.
The scenes in the east are going to be amazing next season what with Arya, Tyrion, Varys and Jorah.

[Glenn.]

um spoilers

[Shaun]

oh god that was all kinds of perfect

BRIENNE :worship: although sandor :( i shall miss you you wonderful bastard
TYRION :worship: although tywin :( i shall miss you you even more wonderful bastard

the bran stuff was epic. Love the child with the crazy Jubilee-Xmen powers. Hope we see more of her, although I hope their whole storyline gets fleshed out rather than dabbled with as some kind of weird~supernatural~tease like we've had with Melisandre...

Stannis popping up kinda surprised me. I'm relieved he's stopped moping around with the illiterate guy, though. Jon's funeral was quite nice, but again I never cared about her so oh well...

just all in all a fantastic episode... really liked the scoring and the choir, too.

[Shaun]

and re: stoneheart disappointment... come on... SO much happened in that episode already, and the appearance of the raven dude surely's enough? :laugh:

[Locke.]

That wasn't really a spoiler, it was stated where Arya and Tyrion/Varys are heading and we already know that Jorah is there

[Shaun]

oh i forgot about dany... weird that... :whistle: but yeah chaining up the two irrelevant dragons was quite sad I guess...

i don't know how anyone can watch all of that, all of this season, and still say she's their favourite though. such a cop-out 'favourite'.

[Novo]

In the books Stannis didn't talk to Jon outside like that and I don't think Davos was there, Im pretty sure he spoke to Melisandre first in one of the wilding tents and then talked to Stannis on the wall straight after.. But the Ned dialogue was spot on though... Stannis said to Jon in the books though " i was no friend of Ned Stark's but i know what kind of man he was and you have got the same honest face as your father " in the books you first find out its him when one of the Baratheon troops shouts " STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS " after he destroys the Wildings.

Apart from them little differences everything else was pretty spot on with that scene

[Novo]

Oh yeah and pretty sure Melisandre killed some eagle ( that was being warged ) in the sky with her magic as well

[Joelle.]

Best thing about the Dany scene was probably the music whilst she was chaining the dragons up and walking away, quite sad actually.

Glad Jorah is shot of her now though, really looking forward to his scenes next season now, instead of him standing around kissing her arse and generally trying to pork her.

[Shaun]

#bringbackJaqen

[Smithy]

"Game of Thrones" ended its breakout season with a final smash on Sunday.

HBO's blood-drenched fantasy rounded up 7.1 million total viewers for its Season 4 finale at 9 p.m., according to Nielsen. That was a 32% climb from the third-season ender a year ago and easily the biggest season finale yet for "GoT." The first-season ender back in 2011 delivered barely 3 million.

When two additional plays Sunday night are thrown in, the total audience for the finale rose to 9.3 million.

not an overall high, but great ratings


It's ages away, but what dy'all think the big ep 9 will be for next year?

I think it might be something Bran b/c he'll be book 6 by then, or maybe Dany on dragon :think:

I can't think of anything THAT big in ADWD/FFC left

[Locke.]

Hopefully

Stannis vs Roose

[smeagol]

i only watched it last night i must of lost a few days somehwere. so weird
anyway episode 9 should of been the final not 10 , 10 was weak compared.

didn't like two of the best characters dying. well 1 as the other may live
ayer was out of character it just didnt ring true that whole scene was weird. and not a good end with those 2 which were great together

how the hell did that happen outside the wall? where did they come from lol. makes no sence at all
the ship ending was silly.

the skeletons were great. the imp was great and jamie etc as usual
overall though i think episode 9 should of been the final , i think the fact they have to put so much into one episode each time is harming the story. not enough explianed.or played out enough

[Niamh.]

Great episode although

I'm so disappointed that Lady Stoneheart didn't appear. I'm guessing she'll probably make an appearance early next season if she's going to appear at all.

She surely has to appear at some point, they can't cut her out completely D:

[Smithy]

they said they might do D:

continued: “They [showrunners David Benioff and Dan Weiss] have such a challenge adapting the books into a really focused television experience. It’s very hard, it’s very complicated, it’s much harder then they’ve been given credit for, I think — and they do a brilliant job. But to bring back Michelle Fairley, one of the greatest actresses around, to be a zombie for a little while — and just kill people? It is really sort of, what are we doing with that? How does it play into the whole story in a way that we’re really going to like? It just didn’t end up being a part of what was going to happen this season.

[Niamh.]

awwww :(

[Niamh.]

Oh and another thing

Book spoiler kind of

Jamie and Tyrions parting was much "nicer" on screen than in the book, they must be cutting out the whole thing about Tyrions first wife as well? I thought that might have more significance though because of the sailors wife theory and all that though. Also, it would have given more strength to Tyrions hatred for his father and why he decided to go back for him before escaping

[Niamh.]

Not sure if this has already been posted but :hehe:

SVaD8rouJn0#t=291

[Jords]

Not sure if this has already been posted but :hehe:

SVaD8rouJn0#t=291

:joker:

[Firewire]

Bought first two books today, plan to read them when I'm on holiday

[Niamh.]

Bought first two books today, plan to read them when I'm on holiday

You won't be disappointed :amazed:


except when you finish them all and discover it'll be around 2080 before the next book is out D:

[Firewire]

You won't be disappointed :amazed:


except when you finish them all and discover it'll be around 2080 before the next book is out D:

Can't wait to start them!

And I know, c'mon George, get typing :fist:

[Niamh.]

What GRRM said about the change to the Tyrion story (book spoiler)


http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/06/16/game-of-thrones-finale-martin/?ew_packageID=20470532

[MTVN]

Was watching that Thronecast thing and think one of the super fans they had on there might have accidentally let a spoiler slip so I might as well ask this (probably book spoiler)

Does the Hound survive? I had just presumed he died but then on that show they said the thing to know with GRRM is that never presume someone is dead until you see a body, which sounded like they were just revealing that he survives :think:

[Niamh.]

Was watching that Thronecast thing and think one of the super fans they had on there might have accidentally let a spoiler slip so I might as well ask this (probably book spoiler)

Does the Hound survive? I had just presumed he died but then on that show they said the thing to know with GRRM is that never presume someone is dead until you see a body, which sounded like they were just revealing that he survives :think:

It's a only a theory, it's not confirmed but later on in the books Brienne meets a monk and stays with him, he tells her he found the hound and he stayed with him while he died, then later on in the chapter there's a mysterious grave digger who looks a bit like The Hound living with the monks. That's it really

[Locke.]

Was watching that Thronecast thing and think one of the super fans they had on there might have accidentally let a spoiler slip so I might as well ask this (probably book spoiler)

Does the Hound survive? I had just presumed he died but then on that show they said the thing to know with GRRM is that never presume someone is dead until you see a body, which sounded like they were just revealing that he survives :think:

Still hasn't been revealed in the books but most are pretty sure he is alive, he just isn't "The Hound" anymore, he's gone through a change and is living at a monastery.










Seriously. http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Gravedigger/Theories

[MTVN]

Ah ok thanks, interesting I suppose but that would be a bit weird :think: guess it will be a while before he would ever come back into the show then

[Locke.]

I think Season 5 is going to be both books 4 and 5 because they run simultaneously to one another, so if they do that and The Hound comes back for the specific reason most expect him to, then he'll probably be in Season 6.

[Niamh.]

Ah ok thanks, interesting I suppose but that would be a bit weird :think: guess it will be a while before he would ever come back into the show then

or they may cut it completely as well if it's not that important

[Niamh.]

I think Season 5 is going to be both books 4 and 5 because they run simultaneously to one another, so if they do that and The Hound comes back for the specific reason most expect him to, then he'll probably be in Season 6.

what's the reason most expect?

[Locke.]

what's the reason most expect?

To be the faiths champion against Robert Strong/Gregor in Cersei's trial

[Niamh.]

To be the faiths champion against Robert Strong/Gregor in Cersei's trial

aaaahhhhhhh ok that'd be fitting

[Niamh.]

Hey Locke, what did you think about

them changing the Tyrion/Jamie/Tywin bit last night? About deleting the Tysha part and having Tyrion and Jamie part on good term? Kind of spoiled it a bit for me

[Locke.]

Hey Locke, what did you think about

them changing the Tyrion/Jamie/Tywin bit last night? About deleting the Tysha part and having Tyrion and Jamie part on good term? Kind of spoiled it a bit for me

Had a feeling they'd do it because they haven't mentioned Tysha in the show since season 1. I guess it just means that Tyrion's current dislike of Jaime in the books won't end up meaning much.. Or maybe he'll never meet Tysha again or something.

Earlier in the season I was worried they'd not kill off Shae and have her sort of take the role of Tysha, leaving on that ship across the sea and then her being the one Tyrion was always thinking about/wanting to look for, so at least they didn't end up doing that.

[Smithy]

Show creators said

Graves also suggested that The Hound will not be coming back after Arya left him to die on that hillside. “As far as The Hound, as I told the story … he’s gone. How is he going to survive that? The real point of it was that she walks away, it wasn’t that it’s left open ended.”

so i don't think they'll bring him back :shrug:

[Smithy]

LSH:

Q: You couldn’t have missed the online furor over the lack of Lady Stoneheart in the Thrones finale. Were you surprised by that attention?
A: I actually haven’t seen any of that. I don’t look that stuff up. I avoid it like the plague. I was totally unaware.

Q: There was a lot of online conversation. I heard third-hand that you were basically told that it’s not likely to ever happen. Is that accurate?
Yeah, the character’s dead. She’s dead.

Do you have a preference at all—do you think Catelyn’s arc should end where it ended, or would you be into the resurrection idea?
You respect the writers’ decision. I knew the arc, and that was it. They can’t stick to the books 100 percent. It’s impossible—they only have 10 hours per season. They have got to keep it dramatic and exciting, and extraneous stuff along the way gets lost in order to maintain the quality of brilliant show.


http://www.vh1.com/celebrity/bwe/images/2011/12/RACHEL-CROW-GIF-1323447731.gif

[Locke.]

Is that George saying that?

Don't really take anything they say seriously about future stuff tbh, they can't be like "Oh yeah, that's going to happen", or

"Oh yeah, The Hound will be back in 2 seasons"

Because it would spoil the show

[Tom4784]

LSH:

Q: You couldn’t have missed the online furor over the lack of Lady Stoneheart in the Thrones finale. Were you surprised by that attention?
A: I actually haven’t seen any of that. I don’t look that stuff up. I avoid it like the plague. I was totally unaware.

Q: There was a lot of online conversation. I heard third-hand that you were basically told that it’s not likely to ever happen. Is that accurate?
Yeah, the character’s dead. She’s dead.

Do you have a preference at all—do you think Catelyn’s arc should end where it ended, or would you be into the resurrection idea?
You respect the writers’ decision. I knew the arc, and that was it. They can’t stick to the books 100 percent. It’s impossible—they only have 10 hours per season. They have got to keep it dramatic and exciting, and extraneous stuff along the way gets lost in order to maintain the quality of brilliant show.


http://www.vh1.com/celebrity/bwe/images/2011/12/RACHEL-CROW-GIF-1323447731.gif

No, I do not accept this.

[Smithy]

Is that George saying that?

Don't really take anything they say seriously about future stuff tbh, they can't be like "Oh yeah, that's going to happen", or

"Oh yeah, The Hound will be back in 2 seasons"

Because it would spoil the show

It was

Michelle Farley

I think after what other people have said, they're gonna cut her :sad: its ****ing dumb especially the time constraints excuse, maybe cut out the ****ty useless scenes between missande/grey worm

[Niamh.]

A new contender for the Iron Throne

https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10463017_761028797252286_1727520553105608322_n.jpg

[Joelle.]

A new contender for the Iron Throne

https://scontent-b-lax.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/t1.0-9/10463017_761028797252286_1727520553105608322_n.jpg

She got to go to the actual set and apparently didn't even sit on the throne. What a waste :bored:

[Niamh.]

George R.R. Martin Says ‘***** You’ to People Who Say He Won’t Finish the Books
By Jesse David Fox

You know all the pressure you feel when you have to text a person back? Like, you know they are just looking at their phone, waiting for your text? Now imagine that text had to be 300,000 words long, and that person you're texting was actually a million people. That is George R.R. Martin's life, with people constantly complaining about how long he's taking to finish the A Song of Ice and Fire series. So when the Swiss newspaper Tagesanzeiger asked him about exactly that, he said that he found the question "pretty offensive." Adding, "**** you," and the gesture below.

http://i.imgur.com/bL9FKGM.gif

http://www.vulture.com/2014/07/george-rr-martin-says-fck-you-to-doubters.html?wpsrc=nymag

[Roy Mars III]

the lazy ****.

Steven Erikson wrote ten 1,000 page books in his Malazan Book of the Fallen series in less time and its just as good as Ice and Fire (if not better)

[Locke.]

WH2ri8RhSnw

[King Gizzard]

''Nell Tiger Free''

wat

[Locke.]

GRRM reveals Jeyne Westerling will appear in the prologue of Winds of Winter

Yes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Baby Robb please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Smithy]

still won't be in the show :smug:


has he said anything else? (i'm assuming this is at comic con?)

[Tom4784]

Here for the stabby sisters tbh.

[Locke.]

Good news, GRRM isn't writing an episode of the show and is only taking a little part in the production side of things this year and is giving all his attention to finishing The Winds of Winter. Rumours going around that it will come out in April with Season 5.

He will still **** it up and not finish in time, but at least he isn't putting a million things before it like he usually does anymore.

[Jamesy]

I'm yet to read to books (have bought all the published ones so far) although it's a shame to hear of all the stuff that gets cut out. It's understandable they have time constraints, and we know things in books always get cut out when making it to film. But it sounds like they have cut out some really good stuff, stuff that could fill in some scenes on the show that are pretty boring.

Also, surprised no one has posted this here:

/watch?v=v-7Fs9HJvs0

[Novo]

493792501590159360

Great stuff, the filming is going well by the looks of things

[Shaun]

Yahoo brings news that the next season of Game Of Thrones will be missing two characters, and one magic word. Kristian Nairn revealed that his current “Rave of Thrones” DJ tour of Australia won’t conflict with shooting on the fifth season, because neither his Hodor nor Hodor’s annoying backpack Bran are in it.

:suspect:

[MTVN]

Yes!!!! No Bran!!!!

[Tom4784]

It's commonplace for characters to miss out on whole books so it's not surprising to see them take the same approach for the TV series.

[Smithy]

Not surprising considering where we are in the show with bran is where we are in the books, hopefully that means GRRM will have 6 out some time next year

[Locke.]

Ridiculous really.

Bran's storyline isn't the most entertaining but it's important that it isn't forgotten about because it's one of the most important in the long run. Should have just spaced him out in earlier seasons when action was at a high instead of cutting him out of the season that will probably already be light on action.

Sansa's storyline is pretty much caught up with the books as well, they better not give the best remaining character restricted screentime.

[Locke.]

Good news guys, Bran is appearing afterall http://winteriscoming.net/2014/09/04/isaac-hempstead-wright-confirms-appearance-season-5-game-thrones/

[Jords]

Bran/Hodor's storyline so far hasnt been the most riveting but they were left off at a really interesting point in S4 so kinda uncool to completely disregard them for a whole season.

[Locke.]

Mr Eko!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Hollywood Reporter has announced that Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, best known as Mr. Eko from Lost, Simon Edibisi on Oz, and the Dark Elf Kurse in Thor 2: The Dark World has joined Game Of Thrones. He was a fan favorite on both Oz and Lost, so it’ll be interesting to see what he does in GOT role.

For now, all we have is speculation on that role. It’s been announced only as “Malko,” a new character for the HBO series. Given the increasing number of locations in Westeros and Essos in Season 5, like Dorne, more Braavos than a single room, and Pentos, it’s almost impossible to say–if you have any more information, we’d love to hear it.

http://winteriscoming.net/2014/10/17/two-new-characters-cast-game-thrones-lost-misfits/

I always pictured him as Moqorro in the books so hopefully it is just that character renamed, if not then it better still be a big role

[Locke.]

Big season 5 spoiler

Looks like they're cutting loads of Tyrion's story out then

p/uY3ezYO581

[Smithy]

D:

Dany looking flawless there tho :flutter:

She flies away before he even gets close to her tho, that better not be cut :umm2:

[Josy]

Big season 5 spoiler

Looks like they're cutting loads of Tyrion's story out then

p/uY3ezYO581

:shocked:

[Josy]

86,000 people showed up to claim 600 extra roles in next season of Game of Thrones

.

[Jords]

86,000 :o

[Smithy]

thE S5 TRAILER IS OUT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422503916&x-yt-cl=85027636&v=USeyzNY88Ig#t=102

[Niamh.]

Seriously though, 2016 or maybe 2017 for Winds of Winter :fist:

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/winds.of.winter.update.is.george.r.r.martin.2016.r elease/46846.htm

[Smithy]

It's a shame that the show will spoil the end of the books

[Glenn.]

OMFG

[Firewire]

George better not die

[Niamh.]

It's a shame that the show will spoil the end of the books

I know, I don't know what to do, whether to stop watching the show and wait till after the books or just drive on with the show but then I might not go back to read the books :( I hate GRRM :bawling:

[Smithy]

You could actually be waiting until 2020 if wanted to finish it via the books though :joker:

[Niamh.]

You could actually be waiting until 2020 if wanted to finish it via the books though :joker:

If I'm lucky :laugh: It's so annoying though, it's really unfair of him I think, to all the people that have been reading the books

[Locke.]

George better not die

Funny thing is there is probably more chance of someone he works with taking over and finishing the story if he does die than there is of him doing it himself while alive.

Not that I'm wishing death on him..... I've accepted the end will be shown on the show first

[Ramsay]

I know, I don't know what to do, whether to stop watching the show and wait till after the books or just drive on with the show but then I might not go back to read the books :( I hate GRRM :bawling:

you love him really

[Josy]

Seriously though, 2016 or maybe 2017 for Winds of Winter :fist:

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/winds.of.winter.update.is.george.r.r.martin.2016.r elease/46846.htm

What the actual ****? last I heard it was this year FFS

I'm ****ing pissed right off now

*Sells my book box set*

[Niamh.]

What the actual ****? last I heard it was this year FFS

I'm ****ing pissed right off now

*Sells my book box set*

:laugh:

[Natalie.]

Started season 4 last night and reading ADWD part 1. Finally catching up

[Josy]

Started season 4 last night and reading ADWD part 1. Finally catching up

Well take your time, we will all be pensioners before we get the next book.

[Niamh.]

http://i.imgur.com/zGUU9aH.gif

[Natalie.]

Well take your time, we will all be pensioners before we get the next book.

:laugh:

[Glenn.]

Well take your time, we will all be pensioners before we get the next book.

:joker:

[Smithy]

@GameofThrones on twitter are tweeting a load of promo pics for S5 :flutter:

[Iceman]

After much speculation, Lena Headey has confirmed that she is indeed pregnant!

This will be the second child for the 41-year-old Game of Thrones actress.

“I’m happy to confirm that I’m having my second child this summer,” Lena told People. “I only hope that this announcement can help me to regain some of the privacy I have recently lost to prying photographers and ask that they please respect my privacy and let me enjoy this time.”

Lena stepped out showing off her baby bump earlier in the week – see the photos!

Lena is already mom to son Wylie, almost 5, with musician Peter Loughran, whom she divorced in 2013.

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

kweyn cers >

[Smithy]

If she's due in the summer I wonder how it's gonna effect her filming, they usually start around July :worry:

[Locke.]

Kill her off

[Shaun]

^seems possible: http://www.avclub.com/article/george-rr-martin-warns-game-thrones-will-kill-char-215297

When it comes to HBO’s Game Of Thrones, readers of George R.R. Martin’s A Song Of Ice And Fire series have long had the advantage of knowing what’s coming next, and the pleasure of constantly holding it over the heads of those who don’t. But according to Martin himself, season five is going to prove a rough ride for those readers. Speaking at the Writers Guild West Awards, Martin warned, “People are going to die who don’t die in the books, so even the book readers will be unhappy. So everybody better be on their toes. David [Benioff] and D.B. [Weiss] are even bloodier than I am.” And without knowing exactly who’s going to get poisoned, bludgeoned, stabbed, shot, or catapulted over the Wall in the North, readers are now primed to be dealt the biggest blow since non-readers finally discovered what all their smug references to the “Red Wedding” were about.

It wasn’t all grim tidings for fans, however, as Martin established that he hasn’t totally abandoned his day job. “Whatever happens with the show, I’m going to finish the books,” Martin said. “But each of these books are 1,500 pages long and they each have enough material in them for several seasons.”

Of course, seeing as it’s increasingly free from the constraints of Martin’s narrative, HBO could actually do whatever it wants for a dozen more seasons, killing freely until Ser Pounce finally ascends the Iron Throne as the last creature left alive.

[Mokka]

^seems possible: http://www.avclub.com/article/george-rr-martin-warns-game-thrones-will-kill-char-215297

This just disappoints me :(

Why, as a reader, should I continue to invest in this world if he is going to allow the TV moguls hack away at it however they see fit? How do I avoid spoilers from the show, in an ever present media world, if I want to hold out for the books?

I am sooooo angry!$#*! :fist:

[Locke.]

The killing of characters in the show that are alive in the books has been happening for a while, it's just usually really minor characters that don't make much difference, but George never shuts up about it anyway. It'll probably be more prominent this season though because the show is moving past the books now, which is something he can only blame himself for.

And New Season 5 poster:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B-4WdwNUsAEvTXq.jpg

[Drew.]

It has taken a long time but i'm finally up to date. My god, this show is incredible :worship:

The first season 2 seasons i had to watch twice.. First time round i was still left pretty clueless about what was going on at times, kept forgetting the characters names and couldn't really keep up with everything that was happening but everything made more sense second time round. Seasons 3 & 4 have been brilliant, the red wedding was obviously the highlight.

Robb was a nice enough character but was pretty boring and sat around not doing much, same for Stannis except he went into a war and got destroyed but has made up for it coming to Jons rescue at the end of S4. I'm probably alone but Joffrey was brilliant, i was gutted when he was killed off.. there was something really intriguing about him.

Jon, Daenerys, Hound, Bronn & Tyrion have all been my favourite characters.. Arya, Sam Ramsey, Jaime, Missandei, Theon & Shae (RIP) are all really good/interesting too.

[Mokka]

It has taken a long time but i'm finally up to date. My god, this show is incredible :worship:

The first season 2 seasons i had to watch twice.. First time round i was still left pretty clueless about what was going on at times, kept forgetting the characters names and couldn't really keep up with everything that was happening but everything made more sense second time round. Seasons 3 & 4 have been brilliant, the red wedding was obviously the highlight.

Robb was a nice enough character but was pretty boring and sat around not doing much, same for Stannis except he went into a war and got destroyed but has made up for it coming to Jons rescue at the end of S4. I'm probably alone but Joffrey was brilliant, i was gutted when he was killed off.. there was something really intriguing about him.

Jon, Daenerys, Hound, Bronn & Tyrion have all been my favourite characters.. Arya, Ramsey, Jaime, Missandei & Shae are all really good/interesting too.

Arya's story line is much stronger... and further along in the books, so she is my fav, but a close second is Jon and then Tyrion, Daenerys, and Samwell

I like your avatar btw

[Smithy]

:clap1: drew, who do you want on the iron throne at the end of it all?

[Drew.]

Arya's story line is much stronger... and further along in the books, so she is my fav, but a close second is Jon and then Tyrion, Daenerys, and Samwell

I like your avatar btw

Yeah it took a while but shes grown on me a lot, her character is one of the ones thats developed the most. Her travels with the hound were great too.

:clap1: drew, who do you want on the iron throne at the end of it all?

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/34200000/Jon-and-Daenerys-au-crossover-couples-34230762-470-500.png

[Locke.]

Oh dear

[Smithy]

http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/34200000/Jon-and-Daenerys-au-crossover-couples-34230762-470-500.png

Stan the Dragons :clap2:

[Iceman]

Yeah it took a while but shes grown on me a lot, her character is one of the ones thats developed the most. Her travels with the hound were great too.



http://images6.fanpop.com/image/photos/34200000/Jon-and-Daenerys-au-crossover-couples-34230762-470-500.png

:worship:

[Locke.]

Oberyn's daughters, the Sand Snakes

https://41.media.tumblr.com/2f6572f36a977e06cf9107156c457723/tumblr_nklevjxkPV1qis07wo2_540.jpg

https://40.media.tumblr.com/8f1fbfb58ceb2b45a4e05bf189483e6d/tumblr_nklevjxkPV1qis07wo3_540.jpg

https://36.media.tumblr.com/df89b97cda6b5cdf272a3ce41cfa4d61/tumblr_nklevjxkPV1qis07wo4_540.jpg

[Smithy]

the last one looks like a really bad Cosplay :worry:

[Iceman]

the last one looks like a really bad Cosplay :worry:

:laugh:

[Smithy]

Titles and Synopsis for the first 4 eps

Season 5, episode 1: The Wars to Come - "Cersei and Jaime adjust to a world without Tywin. Varys reveals a conspiracy to Tyrion. Dany faces a new threat to her rule. Jon is caught between two kings."

Season 5, episode 2: The House of Black and White - "Arya arrives in Braavos. Pod and Brienne run into trouble on the road. Cersei fears for her daughter's safety in Dorne as Ellaria Sand seeks revenge for Oberyn's death. Stannis tempts Jon. An adviser tempts Dany."

Season 5, episode 3: High Sparrow - "In Braavos, Arya sees the Many-Faced God. In King's Landing, Queen Margaery enjoys her new husband. Tyrion and Varys walk the Long Bridge of Volantis."

Season 5, episode 4: The Sons Of The Harpy - Synopsis not released yet.

Also been hearing that LSH won't be making an appearance, and that sansa will be taking on her "duties" :worry:

[Iceman]

:lovedup:

[Locke.]

Mainly looking forward to the Jon/Stannis storyline this season and Davos' travels. Where did you hear that about Sansa? I'd have been looking forward to what her storyline is now too but I don't like the sound of that at all

[Smithy]

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Second trailer and iT LOOKS AMAZING

[Glenn.]

Daenerys slaying me in that trailer :love:

[Natalie.]

Caught up now with the show, trailer looks great

[Iceman]

I'm going to break the wheel :love:

[Smithy]

yjQj4BCQSzo

[Iceman]

I'm so excited for this season. So close now

[Glenn.]

Omg Daenerys at the end :worry:

[LukeB]

Just started watching this, my favourites are Rob,Jon Snow and Daenerys

[Glenn.]

Another stan :clap1:

[Iceman]

Another stan :clap1:

[2]

[MTVN]

Just started watching this, my favourites are Rob,Jon Snow and Daenerys

All terrible

[LukeB]

daenerys brother death scene :worship:

I love daenerys!

[LukeB]

All terrible

:shocked:

[Natalie.]

Just started watching this, my favourites are Rob,Jon Snow and Daenerys

Great taste :clap2:
Looking forward to watching it the time it airs :love:

[LukeB]

Jon,Daenerys,Robb and Arya >>>>

my 4 favourites

[Locke.]

Brilliant taste Luke, where are you up to?

[LukeB]

Brilliant taste Luke, where are you up to?

Season 2 Episode 8. I should hopefully be on S3 tomorrow

Arya is planning her escape :flutter:

[Smithy]

It's weird that 4 seasons in we still haven't seen anything of

Book Spoilers
The Kingsmoot and Victarions journey to Dany, it makes me think he's gonna end up dying before he even gets there, which makes his whole arc a bit redundant

[Locke.]

Just read a load of spoilers for the first 4 episodes of the season, and I'm not really looking forward to it all that much now. They have changed too much.

Contains huge show and also book spoilers:

In Keeping with the books:

*Stannis offers Jon legitimacy and Winterfell in episode 2.
*Jon becomes Lord Commander in episode 2.
*Jon beheads Janos Slynt in episode 3 and Stannis nods afterwards, apparently it's a great scene.
*Kevan is back and taking zero sh-t from Cersei.
*Kevan says he will serve as Tommen's Master of War if the king himself calls upon him but he will not be a puppet of Cersei's.

Changes:

*Ellaria is taking over Arianne's material
*Winterfell is introduced in episode 3 (with Sansa and LF going there). Littlefinger is still there in episode 4 but gets called back to KL by Cersei.
*Sansa's marriage plans to Ramsay is revealed in episode 3.
*Roose puts Littlefinger in his place and does a good job hiding Ramsay's dark side from the others.
*Jaime heads to Dorne after episode 1, arrives in episode 4
*Tommen and Margaery have sex, it's off-screen but you can still hear them f-cking like jackrabbits and Tommen post-coital looks like he's in heaven.
*Regarding the Dorne storyline, all in all; "As a die hard book reader I was okay with Jaime's part in the Dorne storyline, it all seems to carry out organically and Ellaria and Doran have nice scenes together. So far it's promising."
*Not a single mention of the ironborn or Balon, or Yara.
*Illyrio never even shows up.
*Brienne meets Sansa but is rejected by her
*Mance dies in Episode 1 (what the ****?)
*Grey Worm dies in Episode 4
*Barristan dies in Episode 4
*No hint of Davos going to White Harbor.
*Theon has zero dialogue in both episodes he appears in.
*Jaime continues to be pussywhipped by Cersei and wants her affection.
*Brienne has some speech about wanting to kill Stannis

Most of this sounds like it will make for an entertaining TV show but it is all just so different from the source material, no wonder GRRM didn't take up the option of writing an episode this season or next.. The

Sansa marrying Ramsay part is the worst.. what a load of nonsense

[Mokka]

I can't look.... I can't look....

[Iceman]

So close now, yet so far.

[Natalie.]

Can't wait to watch this as it airs for the first time

[Iceman]

I think I need to update my sig and avatar.

[Smithy]

-is avoiding all spoilers-

Did anyone else see this? - http://winteriscoming.net/2015/04/03/george-r-r-martin-is-determined-to-finish-the-winds-of-winter-before-season-6/

‘Interestingly, Martin also reveals that he recently came up with a big twist that he had never previously considered involving an important character. The quote, reproduced in full below, is characteristically vague, but plenty intriguing.’

“I’m still weighing whether to go that direction or not. It’s a great twist. It’s easy to do things that are shocking or unexpected, but they have to grow out of characters. They have to grow out of situations. Otherwise, it’s just being shocking for being shocking. But this is something that seems very organic and natural, and I could see how it would happen. And with the various three, four characters involved…it all makes sense. But it’s nothing I’ve ever thought of before. And it’s nothing they can do in the show, because the show has already—on this particular character—made a couple decisions that will preclude it, where in my case I have not made those decisions.”

He must hate the show so much :joker: :joker:

[Locke.]

The first 4 episodes have leaked online... Debating with myself whether to watch them now and wait a month for Ep5 or just watch one a week

[Iceman]

Downloading as we speak.

[Smithy]

What's the quality?

[Locke.]

720HD

[Iceman]

Haven't checked yet. I'm watching the end of f1. Downloading in another room. I'll let you know though.

[Iceman]

Oh nvm

[Smithy]

omfg *runs*

[Iceman]

Oh yes this will do perfectly.

[Glenn.]

I'm going to wait for it.

[Josy]

Just read a load of spoilers for the first 4 episodes of the season, and I'm not really looking forward to it all that much now. They have changed too much.

Contains huge show and also book spoilers:

In Keeping with the books:

*Stannis offers Jon legitimacy and Winterfell in episode 2.
*Jon becomes Lord Commander in episode 2.
*Jon beheads Janos Slynt in episode 3 and Stannis nods afterwards, apparently it's a great scene.
*Kevan is back and taking zero sh-t from Cersei.
*Kevan says he will serve as Tommen's Master of War if the king himself calls upon him but he will not be a puppet of Cersei's.

Changes:

*Ellaria is taking over Arianne's material
*Winterfell is introduced in episode 3 (with Sansa and LF going there). Littlefinger is still there in episode 4 but gets called back to KL by Cersei.
*Sansa's marriage plans to Ramsay is revealed in episode 3.
*Roose puts Littlefinger in his place and does a good job hiding Ramsay's dark side from the others.
*Jaime heads to Dorne after episode 1, arrives in episode 4
*Tommen and Margaery have sex, it's off-screen but you can still hear them f-cking like jackrabbits and Tommen post-coital looks like he's in heaven.
*Regarding the Dorne storyline, all in all; "As a die hard book reader I was okay with Jaime's part in the Dorne storyline, it all seems to carry out organically and Ellaria and Doran have nice scenes together. So far it's promising."
*Not a single mention of the ironborn or Balon, or Yara.
*Illyrio never even shows up.
*Brienne meets Sansa but is rejected by her
*Mance dies in Episode 1 (what the ****?)
*Grey Worm dies in Episode 4
*Barristan dies in Episode 4
*No hint of Davos going to White Harbor.
*Theon has zero dialogue in both episodes he appears in.
*Jaime continues to be pussywhipped by Cersei and wants her affection.
*Brienne has some speech about wanting to kill Stannis

Most of this sounds like it will make for an entertaining TV show but it is all just so different from the source material, no wonder GRRM didn't take up the option of writing an episode this season or next.. The

Sansa marrying Ramsay part is the worst.. what a load of nonsense

Not happy with this.

[Glenn.]

I caved. They're downloading as we speak :amazed:

[Tom4784]

I shall find the strength within to watch them as they air.

[Glenn.]

I shall find the strength within to watch them as they air.

http://i.imgur.com/NfB2ZH7.gif

[Natalie.]

I'm trying not to watch them :worry:

[Tom4784]

Too many of my friends will watch it as their air and I hate not watching it at the same pace as I can't talk to them about it s0b.

[Smithy]

Why is this thread in the Sci Fi forum

[Locke.]

Watched the first 2, the Stannis/Jon scenes are perfect, exactly as I imagined them. This scene making it to the show has made the season for me

https://41.media.tumblr.com/abf47c50a6eebfbf9e33edbec02d03b2/tumblr_nmowifgKeq1qhfadgo1_540.png

[Smithy]

Yeah the wall scenes have been the best so far, everything else is deviating too much :bored:

Ep 3 why are we seeing a 15 year old having sex um

[Iceman]

Apparently episodes 5&6 are out there too. Can anyone find them?