Coronavirus Outbreak : England Removed All Restrictions

[arista]

very few people test, so that number is just nonsense


Just means
it is bigger and spreading

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/08/18/16/74478641-12420697-image-a-22_1692374359938.jpg



Pirola Covid (BA 2.86) variant
was 3, last week


Now 34 in the UK

28 at a Care Home
(6 sloppy staff spread it)



BBC1HD Lunch News


Not nice it is increasing

[Zizu]

I’ve been coughing and sneezing plus a sore , wheezy test all week .. tested negative for Covid twice .. unless the new strain doesn’t show on the old tests ?


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[arista]

I’ve been coughing and sneezing plus a sore , wheezy test all week .. tested negative for Covid twice .. unless the new strain doesn’t show on the old tests ?





Do the Test again in a few says
if you can, I would

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[A group of MPs for
the PM and health secretary:
not to restrict Covid vaccines to those aged 65
and those in vulnerable groups.
It comes amid concern that the new
Pirola variant of the disease could
put pressure on the NHS this winter.]

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[arista]

I’ve been coughing and sneezing plus a sore , wheezy test all week .. tested negative for Covid twice .. unless the new strain doesn’t show on the old tests ?





Ruth on LWHD itv
had it, her doctor gave her a course
of Anti-Biotic

She is now better


Not Covid. (she did 3 tests)

[Crimson Dynamo]

if you are still testing for covid then you need your head examined not your secretions

absolute lunacy

[arista]

if you are still testing for covid then you need your head examined not your secretions

absolute lunacy



That Ruth has to
her Husband is up at 3AM
For 6AM Live Start
on GBNewsHD


His job is more important than her one hour

[Crimson Dynamo]

That Ruth has to
her Husband is up at 3AM
For 6AM Live Start
on GBNewsHD


His job is more important than her one hour

why does she have to now test to see if she has a cold?

[arista]

why does she have to now test to see if she has a cold?


Because if it was Covid
her Important husband
can not go to work.


Has has brought Millions
to that channel

[Crimson Dynamo]

Because if it was Covid
her Important husband
can not go to work.


Has has brought Millions
to that channel

so before covid when she got a cold what did she do?

[Nicky91]

i really think that Covid is going to be around mainly in the winters, like we had with regular flu season

and the covid jab repeats for the elderly and vulnerable similar to the flu jabs back then

[arista]

so before covid when she got a cold what did she do?


Nothing.


China's Coved Screwed the Whole World

[bots]

if you are still testing for covid then you need your head examined not your secretions

absolute lunacy

why does it upset you so much when someone else wants to know what infection they have? It doesn't affect you in any way

[Crimson Dynamo]

why does it upset you so much when someone else wants to know what infection they have? It doesn't affect you in any way

mind your own advice and do one

(and stop testing like a big fanny)

[bots]

mind your own advice and do one

(and stop testing like a big fanny)


i obviously hit a nerve :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker:

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1701023674935947608?s=20

[Jordan.]

LT laughing like he didn't get boostered up to the gills

[arista]

:joker:

https://twitter.com/ClayTravis/status/1701023674935947608?s=20



Yes,

LT Lucky Him.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

Of course LT
USA is in a mess on Covid's return

[Crimson Dynamo]

ABSOLUTELY BAFFLING

xXUQqghzPB0

[arista]

LT it is not Baffling

He is slowly giving worldwide data

of course some problems will happen

But the Vaccines are Life Saving.

[Crimson Dynamo]

LT it is not Baffling

He is slowly giving worldwide data

of course some problems will happen

But the Vaccines are Life Saving.

UK advice is covid boosters for 65 and over

USA advice is 6 months and over

for each of the USA age groups they state roughly how many lives saves

like 18-49 group will prevent 75 hospitalizations

however for the same age group and for both vaccines they state there will be 2500 series vaccine reactions??

wtf

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[bots]

all vaccines are risk vs reward. Some people will benefit from them, others won't. The covid vaccines are no different

Drug companies have been exploiting the public for generations. It's allowed to flourish in America by design. Again, this is nothing new and applies to every drug on the market

[Crimson Dynamo]

all vaccines are risk vs reward. Some people will benefit from them, others won't. The covid vaccines are no different

Drug companies have been exploiting the public for generations. It's allowed to flourish in America by design. Again, this is nothing new and applies to every drug on the market

Covid has brought it to the attention of the wider public

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Oliver_W]

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Vaccines are free in Australia.

There's nothing (unusually) sinister about profiteering.

[bots]

The Covid vaccine will be available to anyone in the UK, it's just free to the vulnerable/over 65's

[bots]

i'm booked in for my boosters next week :dance:

[Zizu]

i'm booked in for my boosters next week :dance:


No more for us ..

We both felt dreadful the day after all the jabs and then when I had the Flu jab after refusing it for all those years I was poorly for 3 days with flu !!


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[Mystic Mock]

1702735951422705726?s=20

Australia liked to lock people up China style if they had Covid symptoms.

A classy decision from a classy Government, not scummy and evil at all.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

oh

dear..




A84QJf0cWUk

[arista]

The Covid-19 Inquiry London
starts again today,

Re-starts with Dom Cummings
and former Health Sec Hancock
And Boris Johnson

Talking about its Governance

SkyNewsHD just reported.

[Zizu]

I’m poorly with the flu .. tested negative twice for Covid yet loads of at worn with Covid .. exactly same symptoms


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[thesheriff443]

My dad has covid for the first time

[Zizu]

My dad has covid for the first time


Wow he’s done well to avoid it for so long


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[thesheriff443]

Wow he’s done well to avoid it for so long


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Definitely

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

TiBB scientific skepticism in their heads

https://media0.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNTB4b2sxOXR2M3hqbjk4ZTFxdnBhMnV qOXNnOXFpb3d5NGJxcDQ5MiZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfY nlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/3o6Zt11R527fgtrIJO/giphy.gif

TiBB scientific skepticism in reality

https://c.tenor.com/wfQ_qnZu7woAAAAC/tin-foil-hat-mato%C5%82usz.gif

[Crimson Dynamo]

keep sipping on the MSM lies TS

[user104658]

keep sipping on the MSM lies TS

As always - there's a huge gulf between fully accepting the mainstream narrative and becoming a smoothe-brained Truther :joker:. My comment was more on the delivery than the content. It's a bit "HOW COME THERE'S NO PITCHURES OF ANTARCTICA FROM SPACE???" isn't it. Social Media thicko fodder.

[arista]

https://twitter.com/ScottyGoesAgain/status/1705528606380671140

[arista]

LBC Live has been playing clips
from the Covid Enquiry.

Sunak, then called Dr.Death
as he got the Eat Out going,
at that time, Covid -19 was killing people.


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[arista]

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1719010604428759072

[arista]

Tomorrow AM
it is Dom Cummings
giving his version.

[Zizu]

https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1719010604428759072


I thought everything was Boris’s fault !!

Who knew that something as serious as this wasn’t down to Boris ..as the media claimed at the time


Maybe he should sue for defamation of character


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[arista]

I thought everything was Boris’s fault !!

Who knew that something as serious as this wasn’t down to Boris ..as the media claimed at the time


Maybe he should sue for defamation of character





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[arista]

BBC News Text:
[A "landmark day" in the Covid inquiry.
The paper says that a top civil servant
accused Boris Johnson of being unable
to lead during the pandemic.]

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[bots]

O’Connor shows the inquiry some entries from Sir Patrick Vallance’s diaries from 2020

In the first, Vallance says the PM is “obsessed with older people accepting their fate and letting the young get on with life and the economy going”.

Another entry says: “He says his party ‘thinks the whole thing is pathetic and Covid is just Nature’s way of dealing with old people – and I am not entirely sure I disagree with them’.”

A third entry, from December 2020, reads: "Chief whip says 'I think we should let the old people get it and protect others’. PM says ‘a lot of my backbenchers think that and I must say I agree with them’."

Cain says the PM was concerned about society as a whole, but some of the language is not “what I would have used”.

------------------

see you next tuesday

Makes what happened in care homes a lot more sinister now

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

Yes LBC 10AM show,
is getting too predictable.

He keeps repeating sentences

I said No.


Times Radio DAB
Political talk - 100% better than LBC 10AM show

[arista]

Good on Newsnight BBC2HD
last night gave a warning
before Victoria Derbyshire said F. Pigs
Ref: Cummings potty mouth


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Wednesday's front pages are dominated
by revelations from the Covid inquiry.
The i newspaper focuses on diary entries for
the UK's former chief scientific adviser
Sir Patrick Vallance in which he wrote
that former PM Boris Johnson allegedly
thought that "old people should accept their fate."]


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/13BBC/production/_131582808_i-newspaper_page1_33412167.jpg.webp

[joeysteele]

Scandalous..

All these still former Cabinet ministers of Johnson's have to share some responsibility for the shocking tone and rhetoric on this from Johnson AND the element of his more ignorant backbenchers .

Although how disgraceful too that people like Patrick Vallance didn't highlight this when he stood side by side with the odious creep Johnson on the daily presentations on TV.

[bots]

Scandalous..

All these still former Cabinet ministers of Johnson's have to share some responsibility for the shocking tone and rhetoric on this from Johnson AND the element of his more ignorant backbenchers .

Although how disgraceful too that people like Patrick Vallance didn't highlight this when he stood side by side with the odious creep Johnson on the daily presentations on TV.

Patrick couldn't have done that. It would have made him political where he was supposed to be all about the science

[joeysteele]

Patrick couldn't have done that. It would have made him political where he was supposed to be all about the science

That then is and should be really frightening.

On a vital and serious issue as the pandemic.

[bots]

Cobra provide advice. The government then weigh that up and take action. That is how it must work in a democracy

The fact that we had a nutter in charge that wanted to subject all the elderly to a painful and humiliating end, is up to the people who voted for them in the first place

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-73bdd670-52e0-4055-adea-198bfb85478a.png

[Alf]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-73bdd670-52e0-4055-adea-198bfb85478a.pngHe's mad. He's madder than mad Jack McMad. Winner of last year's madman competition.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-468275cd-5d0d-4d4a-a6c8-43285d181ddc.png

[Alf]

"Quite frankly, I don't care about which expletives certain Government advisers decided to use on certain days.

I care about the millions of children who had large parts of their childhood stripped away from them.

Or the young parents too frightened or unable to get a tumour checked.

Or the thousands forced to die alone.

Or the victims of domestic abuse, locked away with their abuser.

Or the small business owners, forced into bankruptcy.

Or the vast numbers of people suffering, and often dying, in pain at home without sufficient medical help

Or the tens of millions who had their lives cruelly put on hold, entirely unnecessarily.

I could go on and on and on.

This inquiry is asking all the wrong questions, and is failing the countless people failed by lockdowns"

Professor Karol Sikora


Well said that man.

[arista]

Yes Alf
problems China's Covid -19 caused
were massive
all over the world.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F92nPZIWAAAzYUB?format=jpg&name=900x900

[bots]

Former health secretary Matt Hancock wanted to decide "who should live and die" if the NHS was overwhelmed, the Covid inquiry has heard.

The revelation came to light in evidence presented by Sir Simon Stevens, the former NHS England chief.

In his witness statement, he said Mr Hancock thought he, not doctors or the public, should decide who to prioritise if hospitals became overwhelmed.

Sir Simon said: "Fortunately this horrible dilemma never crystallised."


------------------------------------------


Nice chap that Hancock

[Crimson Dynamo]

1720089835678175613?s=20

[arista]

https://twitter.com/GMB/status/1719971918374126028

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-551131ee-4c45-4346-9953-8f8ab877dbb4.png

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-AZhpKWUAA638y?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Crimson Dynamo]

1722314109964738989?s=20

[arista]

BBC News Text :
[A multi-million pound legal action that has
been brought against
pharmaceutical giant AstraZeneca branding
its Covid vaccine "defective" and suggesting
that claims about its efficacy were
"vastly overstated".
The paper says one case is being brought
by a man who suffered a brain injury
as the result of a blood clot after
having the jab,
while another is being brought
by a man who died after receiving it,
adding that the "test cases could pave
the way" for more in the future.
The paper adds that the
World Health Organization has said
the vaccine is "safe and effective"
for everyone over 18 and that side effects
of the sort that have prompted
the action are "very rare".
It also notes that independent studies
have estimated that the vaccine saved
six million lives globally in the first
year of its rollout.]


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[Crimson Dynamo]

:clap1:

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[joeysteele]

On the testimony of Vallance it seems possible more likely that Sunak was/is as callous as Johnson.

Why these prominent people stood alongside Johnson, Hancock and Sunak however and agreed with them rather than speaking out at the time is very concerning.

[bots]

this is why the government didn't want all this to come out. They have been taking the piss since day 1 of the pandemic

[joeysteele]

this is why the government didn't want all this to come out. They have been taking the piss since day 1 of the pandemic

Clearly you are right on that bots.

[arista]

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[arista]

Today, Former PM Johnson gives his 1st day
of Evidence.

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[arista]

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[arista]

Boris Johnson
arrived 3 hours early
with a wad of papers.

SkyNewsHD Live

[arista]

Someone has paid for a Van with a Big Sign on it,
saying "The Bodies are Piled High"


Good on GBnewsHD
showing the van parked near the entrance.

[arista]

As Johnson started
a load of protestors were in the room.

Well done the old Lady in charge
getting those troublemakers removed..............

[arista]

Johnson about to leave
Fast into a Car
away from Angry Protestors.

Day 1 done.


Live : SkyNewsHD

[arista]

Johnson Left Fast

Public Shout boos

He is back tomorrow

[MTVN]

Boris did very well to make clear that they were only humans under enormous pressure making massive decisions on little evidence

What did people expect?

[bots]

hindsight is a wonderful thing

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Day 2

Johnson ran in more early today.

No Protestors, their in the Dark

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[The COVID-19 pandemic widened the social divide,
The Sunday Times says,
with some 13 million people said to be
living lives "blighted" by poverty,
ill-health, poor housing or broken families.]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-1bddde0c-9da2-4dda-ab8a-efb92b1fc03b.png

[Alf]

"If you allow the government to break the law for emergencies, they will create emergencies to break the law"

[arista]

Today
(Dr. Death) Prime Minister Sunak is in the chair
being sussed out,
by the Lawyer

[arista]

Sunak PM
now in there.


He starts around 10:30AM

[joeysteele]

He's coming across as being very insincere and evasive.
Rather arrogant in a negative way too.

[arista]

He's coming across as being very insincere and evasive.
Rather arrogant in a negative way too.



Very True.

[arista]

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[arista]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/picture/2023/dec/11/rishi-sunak-gives-evidence-at-the-covid-19-inquiry-cartoon

Fantastic Cartoon on the above link

Guardian blocks you
taking the Image

[arista]

This Cartoon was in 2020
A guest was looking at it.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkEZUm2WkAAYHW2?format=jpg&name=small

[bots]

I'm surprised nobody is talking about the fact the SNP had a policy of deleting all messages sent during the pandemic so they couldn't be seen in an inquiry and that Sturgeon was telling everyone to email her on her party email rather than government email so the messages would remain private.

The tories can be criticised a lot, but they were never that bad

[arista]

Yes the SNP get away with it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

kd99uVOMWEk

[Crimson Dynamo]

PROPAGANDA-This is Dr Ranj Singh & this is proof of his payment from Astra
Zeneca.

He’s deleted his account, saying people were mean to him, but he really deleted
it so no one would post the evidence!

Too late, I found it! Astra Zeneca paid him £22,500 for services!

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNI6uCCWMAAtG-2?format=jpg&name=large

below is him on GMB with Scofield


https://x.com/Artemisfornow/status/1788556640268017878

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNIjcd5W4AAnSBe?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

[Too late, I found it! Astra Zeneca paid him £22,500 for services!]

Yes LT.
No wonder he smiles so much on TV

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[The i has an interview with Dominic Cummings.
The former chief adviser to Boris Johnson
claims to have saved thousands
of lives during Covid,
but says it's "extremely, extremely unlikely"
him and Mr Johnson will ever speak again.]


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[Zizu]

Mmmmm

https://youtu.be/rnVTj2Uy9yc?si=E-NAQoEB_1Vt6NWL


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Mmmmm

rnVTj2Uy9yc


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.

[Parmy]

Can some txt be added I cant watch that work.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The complaint centred on a social media post on X by Dr Berkeley Phillips, the medical director of Pfizer UK. He shared a post from an employee of Pfizer in the US which said: “Our vaccine candidate is 95 per cent effective in preventing Covid-19, and 94 per cent effective in people over 65 years old. We will file all of our data with health authorities within days. Thank you to every volunteer in our trial, and to all who are tirelessly fighting this pandemic.”

Four other Pfizer employees, including one “senior” colleague, published the same message

The PMCPA ruling noted that this message contained “limited” information about the vaccine’s efficacy, no safety information and no reference to adverse events.

It went on to say that the social media post resulted in an “unlicensed medicine being proactively disseminated on Twitter to health professions and members of the public in the UK”.

A Pfizer UK spokesman said that the company “fully recognises and accepts the issues highlighted by this PMCPA ruling”, adding that it is “deeply sorry”.

[Parmy]

Thanks LT..at least they are very sorry.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Scottish COVID inquiry|23 May 2024

Neil Craig-porter
@NHSGGC


🚨Lockdown

'They thought the workload was going to be higher..we're weren't needed'

'Alot of patients they discharged out'

'We were used to full wards..they were half empty'

'We had lots of free down-time'

https://x.com/biologyphenom/status/1793906047016751554

:skull:

so all the people who said the hospitals were half empty (including myself) were telling the truth

[Alf]

Conspiracy theories from The Telegraph


1797931943411007679

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPFdAktWEAAVG6z?format=jpg&name=small

:whistle:

[arista]

Yes he made errors in USA

[user104658]

They had to make up rules, it takes months (or years) to effectively study the effectiveness of an intervention on an illness and they (at the time) seemed to believe that they didn't have time to do it so they were just "trying things".

My personal stance is that some of them were fair enough because - really, other than people being whingey babies about it, even if they didn't work AT ALL they weren't actually causing huge issues, e.g. basic social distancing and masks. Like srs. Even if they did nothing at all - so what? Worth a try :shrug:.

Lockdowns / curfews / restrictions on travel within the country etc... is where it went too far. And "vaccine passports" (again for within the country, restrictions on international travel are a different thing).

Even if I did personally enjoy the world slowing/quietening down a bit for a few months :flutter:.

It's still the doorstep clapping that bothers me most about the whole thing though. Such a clear illustration of utterly mindless drone behaviour. Creepy as fk. I remember I was once accidentally in Tesco at "clapping time" and they announced it over the speakers and everyone stopped in their tracks and started clapping. And the look on people's faces when I was pointedly not doing it.

https://i.imgur.com/OM9hkhH.png

[Parmy]

The clapping wasnt just for the NHS, it was also a coping mechanism for some people that helped them get through it

[user104658]

The clapping wasnt just for the NHS, it was also a coping mechanism for some people that helped them get through it

It was ostensibly for the NHS and it was frustrating and offensive to the actual NHS workers who were well aware that they'd be blamed/forgotten/still under-paid once it was all over.

Which is exactly what happened.

So I (still) don't really care if whacking a frying pan with an old wooden spoon was seen as an appropriate coping mechanism by Billy and Betty.

[Parmy]

Well I have love and respect for my fellow man, so I'm happy to say that cared about other people getting thought it all.

[user104658]

Well I have love and respect for my fellow man, so I'm happy to say that cared about other people getting thought it all.

You cared about some of them, at the expense of others. We all have our biases I suppose.

[Zizu]

The clapping wasnt just for the NHS, it was also a coping mechanism for some people that helped them get through it


Yes I would agree !!

We live in a lovely quiet cul-de-sac and each Thursday it was the elderly neighbours who were out first and also the noisiest .


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[Zizu]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPFdAktWEAAVG6z?format=jpg&name=small

:whistle:


Was masking kids ( or anyone ) that bad an idea ?


Same with the six foot rule ?

I honestly felt that I was gonna die .. we saw endless footage of all those people dying in Italy ( I think ) and poorly people in corridors and car parks ..

The guidelines actually helped me through things



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[user104658]

Yes I would agree !!

We live in a lovely quiet cul-de-sac and each Thursday it was the elderly neighbours who were out first and also the noisiest .


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Hmm. While they were doing so, my wife was delivering methadone (on her own) to junkies in darkened high-rise flats in areas you can barely imagine, because the rules meant they weren't allowed to pick up their prescriptions in person, while I was sat at home worried about her being attacked because it was completely against all protocol and completely unsafe.

But I'm happy for your wee elderly neighbours. On their lovely quiet cul-de-sac. Their loud pot banging probably helped a lot.

:facepalm: :idc:

[user104658]

Was masking kids ( or anyone ) that bad an idea ?


Same with the six foot rule ?


It wasn't a "bad" idea, there was no harm in it, it just turned out that it probably didn't really do anything at all. It was thought that Covid was spread by droplets/touch so distancing and face coverings would help, but it wasn't, it was airborne so they didn't really do anything at all. N95 respirator masks would help a bit. Cloth masks/disposable surgical masks, realistically, did nothing at all.

But again there's no harm in it and they were going on the evidence that was available at the time.

[arista]

They had to make up rules, it takes months (or years) to effectively study the effectiveness of an intervention on an illness and they (at the time) seemed to believe that they didn't have time to do it so they were just "trying things".

My personal stance is that some of them were fair enough because - really, other than people being whingey babies about it, even if they didn't work AT ALL they weren't actually causing huge issues, e.g. basic social distancing and masks. Like srs. Even if they did nothing at all - so what? Worth a try :shrug:.

Lockdowns / curfews / restrictions on travel within the country etc... is where it went too far. And "vaccine passports" (again for within the country, restrictions on international travel are a different thing).

Even if I did personally enjoy the world slowing/quietening down a bit for a few months :flutter:.

It's still the doorstep clapping that bothers me most about the whole thing though. Such a clear illustration of utterly mindless drone behaviour. Creepy as fk. I remember I was once accidentally in Tesco at "clapping time" and they announced it over the speakers and everyone stopped in their tracks and started clapping. And the look on people's faces when I was pointedly not doing it.

https://i.imgur.com/OM9hkhH.png


Yes Photo from a Great Film

[Parmy]

Yes I would agree !!

We live in a lovely quiet cul-de-sac and each Thursday it was the elderly neighbours who were out first and also the noisiest .


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Yes, the noise gave me a feeling that you wernt alone.

[Parmy]

You cared about some of them, at the expense of others. We all have our biases I suppose.

What on earth does that mean?

[user104658]

What on earth does that mean?

I literally just explained that the tub-banging - supposedly for the NHS - which multiple people on this thread including yourself are freely admitting was not for the NHS at all but for "not feeling alone", was demotivating, depressing and harmful to members of NHS staff who knew it was all performative nonsense and not actually for them at all.

But you don't care about how they felt. You only care about how it helped the people who were doing it.

That's what it means.

You care about some of the people and how it affected them. You do not care about those who found it to be a negative.

If they'd been honest and called it "clap for solidarity" that would be fine, but they did not. They called it "clap for the NHS". And then as soon as Covid was over (actually, before it was over) people switched firmly to "screw the NHS".

Absolute joke. But so long as some old Tories in their comfy cul-de-sac didn't "have to feel alone". Jesus wept.

[Parmy]

I said it wasnt just for the NHS....And anyway, nurses and that should be happy that it helped people with their mental anxiety during those dark days.

[user104658]

I said it wasnt just for the NHS....And anyway, nurses and that should be happy that it helped people with their mental anxiety during those dark days.

Yes because the expectation of NHS staff is that they're martyrs/saints and should be endlessly happy so long as everyone else is happy. It wasn't for the NHS at all. It was for scared/lonely people on their doorsteps.

Like I said Parmy - you care about who you care about, you don't give a stuff about the people who found the clapping condescending and harmful. Everything you say confirms that, and that's fine, but get off the moral high ground when people are criticising it.

It was selfishness masquerading as gratitude and that stinks.

[Parmy]

It was clapping ffs get over yourself

[user104658]

It was clapping ffs get over yourself

Seems like it was important a moment ago :think:. A "coping mechanism" that people needed, you said. Was it just frivolous nonsense after all then? I'm glad we see eye to eye!

[Zizu]

Hmm. While they were doing so, my wife was delivering methadone (on her own) to junkies in darkened high-rise flats in areas you can barely imagine, because the rules meant they weren't allowed to pick up their prescriptions in person, while I was sat at home worried about her being attacked because it was completely against all protocol and completely unsafe.

But I'm happy for your wee elderly neighbours. On their lovely quiet cul-de-sac. Their loud pot banging probably helped a lot.

:facepalm: :idc:


It helped all the neighbours as it raised our spirits


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[Parmy]

I cant be doing with negativity today so I'm afraid I will leave you to get your knickers in a twist over the reasons for clapping, with someone else

[user104658]

It helped all the neighbours as it raised our spirits


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Like I said - then it should have been called "clap to raise everyone's spirits" or "clap for solidarity".

Not "clap for the NHS"

Because it wasn't for the NHS. That's clearer than ever.

[user104658]

I cant be doing with negativity today so I'm afraid I will leave you to get your knickers in a twist over the reasons for clapping, with someone else

Carry on in comfortable ignorance Parmy, that's the theme of the day it appears. Maybe you can rally some of the neighbours and have a wee clap.

[Parmy]

Carry on in comfortable ignorance Parmy, that's the theme of the day it appears. Maybe you can rally some of the neighbours and have a wee clap.

What would you like us to call this clapping?

Because it has to have a name..

[user104658]

What would you like us to call this clapping?

Because it has to have a name..

Clap Loud With The Neebs to Drown Out The Scary Thoughts.

Twice daily, 8am and 8pm. 8am just hands, 8pm tubs and pots optional.

[Parmy]

Oh you're so mentally tough TS. Well done you.

[user104658]

Oh you're so mentally tough TS. Well done you.

I have no problem whatsoever with people doing what they need to do to cope in whatever way works - so long as they're not disregarding and exploiting other people to do so.

NHS staff were used as an idol, a crutch and then swiftly when it was convenient, became a scapegoat. It's disgusting behaviour from the British public and not something to be fondly remembered. Shameful.

[MTVN]

I have no problem whatsoever with people doing what they need to do to cope in whatever way works - so long as they're not disregarding and exploiting other people to do so.

NHS staff were used as an idol, a crutch and then swiftly when it was convenient, became a scapegoat. It's disgusting behaviour from the British public and not something to be fondly remembered. Shameful.

Shameful seems a bit ott :joker:

As far as I can see NHS staff are still held in very high regard by the public

[Parmy]

What is this scapegoat nonsense you keep rabbiting about. Nobody blames the NHS for corona. Yeah people bemoan the years long waiting lists we have now, but they still dont blame the workers for that from what I see and read. They do say the NHS is in a state though, which it is, but that's not the dr and nurses doing, and the public see that. So I'm not sure what the clappers are doing or saying for you to accuse them all of turning on the NHS workers

[user104658]

Shameful seems a bit ott :joker:

As far as I can see NHS staff are still held in very high regard by the public

So long as they can refer to them as "angels" and not increase their pay by a penny. Highly regarded martyrs.

"Shameful" isn't OTT at all as a description of how British politicians and the British public treat healthcare professionals.

I'm not referring to the clapping at the time as shameful - that was just silly hive mind nonsense, I doubt anyone who did it gave it more than an ounce of thought.

The fact that the same people who were stood banging tubs completely turned on those same people they were clapping for as soon as they said "hey maybe pay us fairly" - that is shameful. No other word for it.

But as we've discovered no one was clapping for the NHS after all, they were clapping for themselves and their neighbours. Parmy and Zizu said so.

https://help.hotschedules.com/hc/article_attachments/360047251112/giphy__12_.gif

[Parmy]

And you have an issue with people doing that for themselves and their neighbours during a time when people believed it could be catastrophic..I find that shamefully inhumane.

[MTVN]

So long as they can refer to them as "angels" and not increase their pay by a penny. Highly regarded martyrs.

"Shameful" isn't OTT at all as a description of how British politicians and the British public treat healthcare professionals.

I'm not referring to the clapping at the time as shameful - that was just silly hive mind nonsense, I doubt anyone who did it gave it more than an ounce of thought.

The fact that the same people who were stood banging tubs completely turned on those same people they were clapping for as soon as they said "hey maybe pay us fairly" - that is shameful. No other word for it.

But as we've discovered no one was clapping for the NHS after all, they were clapping for themselves and their neighbours. Parmy and Zizu said so.

https://help.hotschedules.com/hc/article_attachments/360047251112/giphy__12_.gif

The public haven't had much of a say in that tbf. We haven't had an election since 2019 and it looks like the current gov are going to be totally annihilated the first chance the public has had. Support for various strike action has been fairly high across much of the country as well.

I think you're overly harsh on the public, it's not exactly been sunshine and rainbows for most people ever since the pandemic

[user104658]

And you have an issue with people doing that for themselves and their neighbours during a time when people believed it could be catastrophic..I find that shamefully inhumane.

I don't have a problem with them doing that for themselves, I have a problem with them pretending it was for NHS staff when it was for themselves.

This isn't a hard concept to grasp and you're not thick so I'm going to assume you're choosing to not understand.

[Parmy]

I don't have a problem with them doing that for themselves, I have a problem with them pretending it was for NHS staff when it was for themselves.

This isn't a hard concept to grasp and you're not thick so I'm going to assume you're choosing to not understand.



Then there is no need to sarcastically finish a post with a gentle dig at 2 people who openly admit it was for themselves and their neighbours as well as the nhs workers.

[Parmy]

Just to add, I didnt clap I just stuck my head out the window and listened with a smile.

[Zizu]

I have no problem whatsoever with people doing what they need to do to cope in whatever way works - so long as they're not disregarding and exploiting other people to do so.

NHS staff were used as an idol, a crutch and then swiftly when it was convenient, became a scapegoat. It's disgusting behaviour from the British public and not something to be fondly remembered. Shameful.


I think the idea came from a good place!

It was to show that we all recognised what they were doing for the country



We all thought we were gonna die ( the daily updates on the death toll wasn’t helpful)

Plus the NHS folk were seen as being on the front line and so at even more risk . They were risking their lives each day when the vast majority were on a long term , fully paid jolly in the good old British sunshine !!

I worked all through the covid years and each working day I felt nauseous through fear


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[Crimson Dynamo]

risk . They were risking their lives each day

no they were not

they were risking getting a bad cold for 99.9% of them

[Zizu]

no they were not

they were risking getting a bad cold for 99.9% of them


Nobody knew anything at the time plus the death toll topped 7 MILLION !!!

That ain’t no bad cold ..

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[Zizu]

I don't have a problem with them doing that for themselves, I have a problem with them pretending it was for NHS staff when it was for themselves.

This isn't a hard concept to grasp and you're not thick so I'm going to assume you're choosing to not understand.


It was obviously for both

Why are you being so obtuse ?


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Nobody knew anything at the time plus the death toll topped 7 MILLION !!!

That ain’t no bad cold ..

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yes we all know about covid death figures :rolleyes:

and that does not relate to NHS workers

[MTVN]

Think you were fairly sh*tting yourself at the time over covid LT

[Crimson Dynamo]

Think you were fairly sh*tting yourself at the time over covid LT

yes

Government and MSM lies tend to do that to a person


but lies they were

Hope you still don't belive them..

[bots]

to be fair, there was a significant proportion of the population crapping themselves, not just because they were in vulnerable groups, but because they had family members in vulnerable groups.

It was a serious disease in it's original variant

[Mystic Mock]

^ Even now you have to still be on the lookout for any mutations that might be more deadly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPZG-4ybUAA6_wZ?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Covid-19
back on the rise.

This could be due to Free Vaccinations
only going to the few older or disabled.


Of Course Covid-19
now not so deadly
more of a bad throat type cold.



Ch5HDnews had nice Dr. Ellie in.

[bots]

it's increasing across the world, it's likely a new variant that people have less immunity too

[Crimson Dynamo]

Covid-19
back on the rise.

This could be due to Free Vaccinations
only going to the few older or disabled.


Of Course Covid-19
now not so deadly
more of a bad throat type cold.



Ch5HDnews had nice Dr. Ellie in.

it never was deadly to the average human- that was bollocks

[Zizu]

it never was deadly to the average human- that was bollocks


Yet so many young , healthy people .. some athletes fell seriously ill !?!?!


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Yet so many young , healthy people .. some athletes fell seriously ill !?!?!


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yes from the vaccine

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GTiNBB-WgAAOSdn?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

In Tomorrows Paper
back in 2021 a young man died,
from the Vaccine.

But it was the wrong type
as at that time under 30's did not get
the Astra Zannecca.

And the vaccine was due to expire,
so they wanted to inject more fast.


This was a Massive Error
by the NHS at that time


Debated on Headliners
One Hour Newspaper review.
GBnewsHD

Live 11PM
then again 2AM and 5AM

[Mystic Mock]

In Tomorrows Paper
back in 2021 a young man died,
from the Vaccine.

But it was the wrong type
as at that time under 30's did not get
the Astra Zannecca.

And the vaccine was due to expire,
so they wanted to inject more fast.


This was a Massive Error
by the NHS at that time


Debated on Headliners
One Hour Newspaper review.
GBnewsHD

Live 11PM
then again 2AM and 5AM

That's tragic news.

But unfortunately I'm not surprised, the Vaccines were rushed out after all, so there's bound to be some negative side effects to some of them.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GX5knQ6WUAA9eLI?format=jpg&name=small

[Mystic Mock]

Another hypocrite I see.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GX5knQ6WUAA9eLI?format=jpg&name=small


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GYOCFXRXoAAFrT3?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

UK 5 years on the Covid-19

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-99ab2dd6-14a6-416e-a22e-43766cff3329.png

[Crimson Dynamo]

We must never forget what a total con it was

[arista]

We must never forget what a total con it was


Yes, but young folks also died
No Vaccine at the Start LT

[Livia]

How did China escape it being called the Chinese flu?

We must never forget where it started.

[arista]

How did China escape it being called the Chinese flu?

We must never forget where it started.


Of course.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes, but young folks also died
No Vaccine at the Start LT

Young people die of respiratory viruses every year


Also this from the National Library of Medicine:

To conclude, this research letter found that deaths among young people in
England increased significantly (95 % CIs) in numerous weeks after COVID-19
vaccination compared to the first week. Based on the findings, I recommend
cautiousness concerning further COVID-19 vaccination, particularly among
young people, till we know more about underlying causes, e.g., vaccination type
or specific batches.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11382299/

[user104658]

How did China escape it being called the Chinese flu?

We must never forget where it started.

Well... it's not a form of flu, for one...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Well... it's not a form of flu, for one...

Trump knew

E2CYqiJI2pE

[Livia]

Well... it's not a form of flu, for one...

The Chinese virus then? Is that okay?

I was making an attempt to equate it with the Asian flu and the Spanish flu, both of which were pandemics... but I might have known you'd leap in with a correction.

[arista]

Young people die of respiratory viruses every year


Also this from the National Library of Medicine:

To conclude, this research letter found that deaths among young people in
England increased significantly (95 % CIs) in numerous weeks after COVID-19
vaccination compared to the first week. Based on the findings, I recommend
cautiousness concerning further COVID-19 vaccination, particularly among
young people, till we know more about underlying causes, e.g., vaccination type
or specific batches.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11382299/



Yes, but During the Start of Covid -19
fit folks died
I know of a few that sadly died

All because there was no vaccine
at the start.


I am not referring to those that were ill at the time,

[arista]

Trump knew

E2CYqiJI2pE



Yes Trump was Correct
it was the Chinese Virus



100%
Tragic Good Doctors in China died
even before it was worldwide

[user104658]

Young people die of respiratory viruses every year


Also this from the National Library of Medicine:

To conclude, this research letter found that deaths among young people in
England increased significantly (95 % CIs) in numerous weeks after COVID-19
vaccination compared to the first week. Based on the findings, I recommend
cautiousness concerning further COVID-19 vaccination, particularly among
young people, till we know more about underlying causes, e.g., vaccination type
or specific batches.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11382299/

You really did go fully down the flat-earther vaccine denial route at some point eh.

All viable and reputable research shows that while vaccination wasn't as effective as hoped at fully halting the spread of Covid, it did (and still does) reduce the inflammatory immune response upon contracting Covid (meaning less severe illness, hospitalisation and death) and it reduced transmission rates.

[Crimson Dynamo]

You really did go fully down the flat-earther vaccine denial route at some point eh.

All viable and reputable research shows that while vaccination wasn't as effective as hoped at fully halting the spread of Covid, it did (and still does) reduce the inflammatory immune response upon contracting Covid (meaning less severe illness, hospitalisation and death) and it reduced transmission rates.

please stop spouting MSM drivel

Overall, there is no convincing evidence that the COVID-19 vaccination
significantly reduces the risk to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39283431/

[bots]

please stop spouting MSM drivel

Overall, there is no convincing evidence that the COVID-19 vaccination
significantly reduces the risk to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39283431/

QB isn't talking about transmission, he is talking about minimising effects on your own body and please stop spouting MSM on every bloody post it means nothing

[Crimson Dynamo]

QB isn't talking about transmission, he is talking about minimising effects on your own body and please stop spouting MSM on every bloody post it means nothing

maybe you should stop watching the MSM bots as its shows in what you post

:umm2:

although your volte face on Trump is still a mystery

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[ "A former spy chief submitted a secret dossier
to No 10 early in the pandemic reporting
that the virus had originated
with a leak from a Wuhan facility".]



https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/d6c5/live/d96a9680-01f2-11f0-a8b1-950887ddc6e5.jpg.webp

[user104658]

please stop spouting MSM drivel

Overall, there is no convincing evidence that the COVID-19 vaccination
significantly reduces the risk to transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39283431/

The hilarious thing is, because you're spouting drivel with no actual ability to digest and understand a scientific paper, you blatantly don't understand what that abstract says. It notes the benefits of vaccination multiple times - including reasons that virus transmission is lessened in vaccinated populations. The part that you're quoting refers, specifically, to the likelihood of transmission of Covid from one person (vaccinated or otherwise is irrelevant) to another person (unvaccinated) during the infectious period (which is lessened by vaccination; you're just as infectious, but for less time, so fewer opportunities for transmission, though that part is inconclusive).

The abstract SPECIFICALLY talks about these things. On the link that YOU posted and cherry-picked a line from. Clown world.

Levels of infectious SARS-CoV-2 were partly lower in the vaccinated population. Viral loads were mostly lower in re-infections compared to breakthrough infections. Viral clearance including the detection of infectious virus has mostly been described to be faster in the vaccinated population suggesting a shorter duration as a possible source for transmission. The epidemiological relevance of this finding remains uncertain. Approximately half of the transmission studies found lower secondary attack rates from the fully vaccinated population, but the results are probably best explained by the vaccination status of the contact population.

Reading comprehension 3/10 LT, either that or you didn't bother to read the whole abstract.

[Crimson Dynamo]

BBC News Text:
[ "A former spy chief submitted a secret dossier
to No 10 early in the pandemic reporting
that the virus had originated
with a leak from a Wuhan facility".]



https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/d6c5/live/d96a9680-01f2-11f0-a8b1-950887ddc6e5.jpg.webp

Buit wait

The MSM said it didn't

surely they don't lie to us??

[arista]

Buit wait

The MSM said it didn't

surely they don't lie to us??


Its a Viewpoint

[arista]

LT stop posting the
same text.

You are like a poxy robot
doing that

[user104658]

Buit wait

The MSM said it didn't

surely they don't lie to us??

I was one of the first people on this forum saying it came from the Wuhan virology lab and haven't changed my stance on that at any point. Surely this conflicts with your self-imagined "everyone is brainwashed by the MSM except meee" narrative :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I was one of the first people on this forum saying it came from the Wuhan virology lab and haven't changed my stance on that at any point. Surely this conflicts with your self-imagined "everyone is brainwashed by the MSM except meee" narrative :shrug:

That "narrative" lies rent free in your head only

Because you keep mentioning it

let it go

[bots]

the media mentioned the lab loads of times. We will never know for sure, but i don't think anyone doubts that it's the likely cause

[Crimson Dynamo]

the media mentioned the lab loads of times. We will never know for sure, but i don't think anyone doubts that it's the likely cause

well they had to it was in Wuhan :laugh:

It makes it more amazing that they went hard on the bat wet market bullsh1t line they were deliberately fed

[user104658]

That "narrative" lies rent free in your head only

Because you keep mentioning it

let it go

:joker: what are you on about, I keep mentioning you constantly banging on about how everyone else is brainwashed by the MSM? For one that doesn't even make sense, and for two, who are you trying to convince? Everyone can see your posts.

[Crimson Dynamo]

:joker: what are you on about, I keep mentioning you constantly banging on about how everyone else is brainwashed by the MSM? For one that doesn't even make sense, and for two, who are you trying to convince? Everyone can see your posts.

Thank you for the confirmation

Lol

[arista]

Amazing

Over 130 people were dragged to court
On Covid Law Breaking.
The past 6 months.

This was 5 years ago.

All the Police Forces were Confused
at that time.


In Today's Newspaper Review
SkyNewsHD

[arista]

A New Wave of Covid-19 Variant ( JN. 1 variant)
has taken over in China, Singapore, Thailand & Hong Kong

In Thailand, 71,000 infections
19 Deaths

New Report WION HD Gravitas Part 1


https://www.theweek.in/news/health/2025/05/19/covid-19-surge-in-asia-all-about-jn-1-variant-and-existing-vaccines.html


This should be on our UK News

[arista]

https://img.theweek.in/content/dam/week/week/news/health/images/2025/5/19/covid-virus-spike-protein-rep.jpg

Large Image
from that link

[Livia]

I think we must call it the Chinese virus...

[user104658]

I reckon I've had a wee dose of the convids since Saturday night. Headaches, chills and temp. Yuck.

[BBXX]

[B]This should be on our UK News

No, it shouldn't.

Let us not get into the ridiculous overzealous, manipulative reporting of Covid ever again.

[Cherie]

No, it shouldn't.

Let us not get into the ridiculous overzealous, manipulative reporting of Covid ever again.

Absolutely, no need to hear it

[Zizu]

Jesus I still have flashbacks of sitting down each day to see the daily death count on the telly …

I was absolutely petrified … I don’t think my anxieties levels ever went back to normalcy

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-1f71f1f1-3d37-45fa-a68d-cfc5768a06c0.png

[Crimson Dynamo]

Remember the dancing nurses videos? How broken they all were, how exhausted?

MUST STAY INDOORS TO PROTECT THE HOSPITALS

Here’s the Covid enquiry, explaining hospitals were erm… empty.

Actually they were at an all time RECORD LOW!



https://x.com/Artemisfornow/status/1976300869806117070

[Crimson Dynamo]

Remember the dancing nurses videos? How broken they all were, how exhausted?

MUST STAY INDOORS TO PROTECT THE HOSPITALS

Here’s the Covid enquiry, explaining hospitals were erm… empty.

Actually they were at an all time RECORD LOW!



https://x.com/Artemisfornow/status/1976300869806117070

Damning from Professor Mark Woolhouse
As some of us said at the time, lockdown impeded healthcare for sick people,
many of whom died unnecessarily.
Save the NHS was a disgraceful slogan.

[emseateng2014]

5 years later and most right wingers from around the world still say its not real

and my still respond to that is if right wingers around the world still think it is not real then that is like saying every member on this big brother forums has been a cast member on big brother uk australia canada and usa

[Alf]

Naimh banned me from the forum for 6 months during Covid. Right from the start of it in the February or March of 2020.

I had to be stook at home, no contact with the people I see every day, family, friends, colleagues. But I was also stopped from communicating on one of my most active forums.

All I did was call her a "Karen" in one situation.

I don't dislike Neem. She's a fine girl from what I've seen from her. I just think she got it wrong on that occasion.

But she learnt me a lesson that day. Never let anyone have power over you again. Because it's oppressive.

[Niamh.]

That's not why you were banned for 6 months Alf and it was April. If you received a long ban it will be for continuous rule breaking not one (pretty mild) post but that doesn't sell as many books i guess! [emoji23]

[Crimson Dynamo]

5 years later and most right wingers from around the world still say its not real

and my still respond to that is if right wingers around the world still think it is not real then that is like saying every member on this big brother forums has been a cast member on big brother uk australia canada and usa

You are claiming to know what "most right wingers around the world think"?

excuse me?

:laugh:

[bots]

5 years on and covid is considered less of a problem than flu

[Mystic Mock]

5 years on and covid is considered less of a problem than flu

It's crazy when you think about it.

And our leaders at the time have still never apologized for their partying during the lockdowns.

[Nicky91]

yes for flu epidemics, people also can better wear face masks, in our opinion (our = me and my parents)


and also not to forget about that NORO virus (stomach flu virus)



we wear plastic gloves if we have to touch door handles

[Crimson Dynamo]

5 years on and covid is considered less of a problem than flu

I genuinely heard a woman caller on radio yesterday say "excuse my voice Iv got covid at the moment."


:crazy:

[Crimson Dynamo]

yes for flu epidemics, people also can better wear face masks, in our opinion (our = me and my parents)

and also not to forget about that NORO virus (stomach flu virus)

we wear plastic gloves if we have to touch door handles

why not just say in your house and dont go out at all, just to be safe

[Nicky91]

why not just say in your house and dont go out at all, just to be safe

nonsense LT


i'm just saying we don't need to going back to pre-covid times, we need to learn from the covid pandemic, just to be more careful regarding our health, if you're not feeling well, avoiding hugging, handshaking, kissing


but other than that, you can go out

[Jessica.]

5 years on and covid is considered less of a problem than flu

There are a lot of lasting negative affects associated with covid infection, especially after having it multiple times. The flu is awful but covid takes way more of a toll on the body and we don't even know the full scale of it yet.

[Cherie]

yes for flu epidemics, people also can better wear face masks, in our opinion (our = me and my parents)


and also not to forget about that NORO virus (stomach flu virus)



we wear plastic gloves if we have to touch door handles

what...you snap on plastic gloves to open doors :laugh:

[Cherie]

nonsense LT


i'm just saying we don't need to going back to pre-covid times, we need to learn from the covid pandemic, just to be more careful regarding our health, if you're not feeling well, avoiding hugging, handshaking, kissing


but other than that, you can go out

you mean applying common sense which should have not required a pandemic to apply

[Crimson Dynamo]

nonsense LT


i'm just saying we don't need to going back to pre-covid times, we need to learn from the covid pandemic, just to be more careful regarding our health, if you're not feeling well, avoiding hugging, handshaking, kissing


but other than that, you can go out

wise words Nicky

[Crimson Dynamo]

Andrew Bridgen
@ABridgen
·
15h
The Covid pandemic narrative continues to unravel, it’s confirmed that the
hospitals were mostly empty - where was the pandemic we were shown on the
TV every night ? The NHS shut down and people were left to rot on waiting
lists. Nurses and doctors were performing TikTok dances instead of surgery.

We were all played.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1958515168511426560/ih2PWQj9_400x400.jpg

[Vicky.]

Yea my mother in law had to go to hospital for breathing problems (not related to COVID) and was literally straight in to a room, not even a small wait. Her usual average is about 6-8 hours wait..

[Livia]

My local surgery has never returned to pre-covid services. The pharmacy is open 10am-noon and 2pm-4pm. Most working people can't even get there in their lunch hours, and no one sees a doctor, it's all phone appointments. It has suited the NHS, especially GP surgeries very well

[arista]

SkyNews Text:
[The Daily Star's front page features
former education secretary,
Sir Gavin Williamson, and former prime minister,
Boris Johnson. Sir Gavin has acknowledged mistakes
were made in the planning of school closures
during the Covid pandemic.

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-9af37bc5-d2a2-4d6a-9cc4-9a5eb10c10b6.jpeg

[Mystic Mock]

That was definitely a rough time for leadership.:joker:

[arista]

Former PM Boris Johnson

Live on TV news all morning

Says he did not have funding for Schools
after Covid-19

Meaning the Report he asked for costings
but found they would cost too much money.


He says he saved the kids lives
by not sending them to school

[Zizu]

Not sure how they came to a figure of £350 BILLION !!!!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20251021/44e1842b57db9184945be6479856fcfd.jpg

[arista]

Yes Zizu

It was a Crazy mess
Poxy China put the UK on


Thanks for posting that Screen Shot

[arista]

All the Lawyers have notes


But Former PM Boris Johnson
not permitted to have any notes?

[arista]

Boris Johnson has finally Concluded

He got up
and had to sit back down again

As the Lady Judge must get up first..........................

[arista]

It is True
Covid-19 has effected children


The Same in some other nations

[OnTheRight]

It is True
Covid-19 has effected children


The Same in some other nations

:joker::joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

So Chris Whitty now admits it wasn’t a great idea to confine millions of Brits indoors to
fight a respiratory virus it was very hard to catch outdoors.

“It happened almost by accident,” says the Covid scientific genius.

No words.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15211187/Covid-rules-going-outside-strict-England.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/10/21/02/103160539-15211187-Professor_Sir_Chris_Whitty_told_the_UK_Covid_19_Pu blic_Inquiry_t-m-1_1761011615859.jpg

[arista]

Today
The Results of the Covid Inquiry

"too little, too late"

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/11/20/16/104050731-0-image-m-4_1763655497078.jpg



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15310341/COVID-inquiry-report-condemns-little-late-response-claims-23-000-lives-saved-says-lockdowns-left-lasting-scars.html

[arista]

[She also concluded that the repeated lockdowns left
'lasting scars on society and the economy',
brought ordinary childhood to a halt and delayed
the diagnosis and treatment of other health issues.

She condemned failures by key scientists
and senior civil servants, the 'toxic' and
'destabilising' effects of
No.10 adviser Dominic Cummings,
and dithering ministers both in London
and the devolved governments of Scotland,
Wales and Northern Ireland.

They had failed to appreciate the
'serious and immediate threat' posed by
the rampaging coronavirus in the first
three months of 2020.

In her damning second report,
Lady Hallett concludes the first
lockdown which started on March 23, 2020,
'might have been shorter
or not necessary at all' if restrictions
such as self-isolating and social distancing
had been brought in sooner – even by just a week.

She wrote: 'Had a mandatory lockdown been imposed
on or immediately after 16 March 2020, modelling shows
that in England alone there would have been
approximately 23,000 fewer deaths in the first wave'.
The death toll in this period 'would have been reduced
by 48 per cent', she said.

Among her 760-page report's damning findings]



Sadly, we lost so many who died
for this China Covid-19.

Many Blame Boris Johnson.

[Livia]

Hindsight is not an exact science.

[arista]

If the First Lockdown had been done a week before
More lives would have been saved.

From this China Covid-19


Sky News is pointing that out now

[bots]

the problem is that Boris ignored the problem right at the start, that's why he ended up getting covid. We also allowed a football match to go ahead with a crowd from italy that was rife with covid at that point

I'm sure most of the government just buried their heads in the sand and hoped it wouldn't happen. Which to be fair is a pretty normal reaction. No-one wants to shut a country down until the last possible moment