Coronavirus Outbreak : England Removed All Restrictions

[arista]

88,376 New Covid Cases
today

[bots]

i thought it might go over 100k today

[arista]

Thursday 16/12/21

146 have Died
88,376 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,579


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
886


146,937 UK Total of Covid -19 deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Alf]

[/B]


He Should have had the Vaccines
Fighting chance.He had something better, he had free will.

[bots]

He had something better, he had free will.

given that it is just some bloke phoning in, there is every chance he was talking bollocks. Anyway, yes, he had freewill, and now he is dead and a particularly unpleasant way to go - vaccinated or otherwise

[user104658]

He had something better, he had free will.


You really have swallowed the koolaid on this eh Alf. He’s DEAD but at least he died of his own free will :umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

According to this article - the first Omicron victim was an unvaccinated pensioner:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10316615/Stepson-UKs-Omicron-victim-unvaccinated-conspiracy-theorist.html

"his stepson claimed today."

sure

[Alf]

Panic over, back to normality


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[Alf]

You really have swallowed the koolaid on this eh Alf. He’s DEAD but at least he died of his own free will :umm2:I swallowed it and you injected it.

[MTVN]

i thought it might go over 100k today

Yep slowing down now for sure

[Zizu]

Yep slowing down now for sure


It’s 10,000 up on yesterday


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[MTVN]

It’s 10,000 up on yesterday


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A big slow down from yesterday's increase

[Zizu]

Thursday 16/12/21

146 have Died
88,376 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,579


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
886


146,937 UK Total of Covid -19 deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


That must be 30,000 higher than last Thursday !!


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[Zizu]

They’ve just quoted the vaccine status of the premier league players !!

75% of them claim to have had at least one jab or INTEND to get one .. 25% are refusing to have ANY vaccine jabs !


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[AnnieK]

He had something better, he had free will.

Most people who get the jab does so of their own free will though too :shrug:

[Alf]

Most people who get the jab does so of their own free will though too :shrug:I didn't say they didn't, infact I agree that they do. My point was to Arista pretty much demanding he should have.

[arista]

I didn't say they didn't, infact I agree that they do. My point was to Arista pretty much demanding he should have.


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[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

the news media love this as it makes them money

they dont care about health or consequences

number porn

disgusting

[bots]

the media are disgusting, but i think the government are being alarmist too. Also, someone in government is saying that half the uk population will catch it, which is complete and utter nonsense

[Zizu]

the media are disgusting, but i think the government are being alarmist too. Also, someone in government is saying that half the uk population will catch it, which is complete and utter nonsense


Guess nobody knows for sure though .

It will get all the unvaxed , single vaxed and double vaxed plus loads of triple vaxed .

It can also infect those who have already had it who thought they were safe for a while


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[Crimson Dynamo]

the fear of blame and no consequence for scaremongering for camera facing mps and scientists is making things x100 worse

[Alf]

What's all this about?


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[user104658]

What's all this about?


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Government accepts liability in the event of a lawsuit related to vaccine side effects, i.e. the legal complaint is against the government and not the manufacturer. Refugees are not covered by any such agreement and thus could, hypothetically, sue the manufacturer directly.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Ian Dale
was on GMBHD itv
he thinks another Covid Downing Street update before Xmas.
With More Restrictions

[Zizu]

Ian Dale
was on GMBHD itv
he thinks another Covid Downing Street update before Xmas.
With More Restrictions


No sprouts at Christmas !!

:)


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[bots]

i think when everyone quits with all the panic talk in the media etc it will all settle down again very quickly

Most of the vulnerable have already been boostered, there is just no reason for all the panic we are seeing in the media

[Cherie]

It is beyond a joke now

[Cherie]

According to this article - the first Omicron victim was an unvaccinated pensioner:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10316615/Stepson-UKs-Omicron-victim-unvaccinated-conspiracy-theorist.html

His step son was on LBC yesterday morning, apparently he was really careful, had his shopping delivered and rarely went out, so how on earth he caught covid is anyones guess

[Cherie]

Nightclubs in Wales must close the day after Boxing Day :facepalm:

why is it okay to go to a nightclub tonight but not in 10 days time..:umm2:

[bots]

also, they have covid passes and tests before entry, so what was the point in them? We all know its a completely useless test is the answer, yet its still been brought into law in england

I also wonder why a club is more vulnerable than a train or tube station, a pub or a restaurant ..... its making rules with no valid reason for them

[Cherie]

also, they have covid passes and tests before entry, so what was the point in them? We all know its a completely useless test is the answer, yet its still been brought into law in england

I also wonder why a club is more vulnerable than a train or tube station, a pub or a restaurant ..... its making rules with no valid reason for them


Makes no sense, much like mask wearing really which carried on in Wales and Scotland and has made very little difference it appears

[Beso]

His step son was on LBC yesterday morning, apparently he was really careful, had his shopping delivered and rarely went out, so how on earth he caught covid is anyones guess

Rarely went out..

Maybe popped to the bookies now and again.:shrug:

[arista]

Nightclubs in Wales must close the day after Boxing Day :facepalm:

why is it okay to go to a nightclub tonight but not in 10 days time..:umm2:


Yes Labour Wales
getting it wrong

[arista]

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[arista]

BBC Text: [And "Mother of Plod" is how the
Daily Star headlines its imagining of how Line Duty's Supt
Ted Hastings would respond to reports
of Tory Christmas parties during lockdown]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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unless they publish the exact time and date these 2 pics were taken its a meaningless, irresponsible, scaremongering front page

[arista]

unless they publish the exact time and date these 2 pics were taken its a meaningless, irresponsible, scaremongering front page

Early Morning
I would say



Scottish Daily Mail
for you............

[arista]

Johnson PM
was just on SkyNewsHD
and BBCnewsHD.

He accepts he made an error on trying to change the rules
but then goes off onto Omicron.

[Cherie]

Rarely went out..

Maybe popped to the bookies now and again.:shrug:

The stepson said he only went to the postbox..., the moral of the story dont go to the postbox

[Niamh.]

NPHET have recommended 5pm Pub Closing times here, our Government haven't made a decision yet on whether to enforce that advice though

[Beso]

Anyone had this new sniffles variant yet?

[arista]

Anyone had this new sniffles variant yet?


No
Is that what you feel Omicron is?

[Beso]

No
Is that what you feel Omicron is?

I know at least 6 people who have had, or have, covid in the past 3 weeks.

They all said you spend 2 days with the sniffles and a bit of a headache, but then the true horror comes.

You still have to spend 8 days in your bedroom.:shrug:

[Nicky91]

for now no jabs for me


i'll wait it out until half january at least if it becomes lesser busy then what it now is with all those people coming in for their boosters

[bots]

I know at least 6 people who have had, or have, covid in the past 3 weeks.

They all said you spend 2 days with the sniffles and a bit of a headache, but then the true horror comes.

You still have to spend 8 days in your bedroom.:shrug:

right from the very beginning we know some people hardly notice covid and others get seriously ill or die

I believe with our current level of vaccination that people are panicking way too much, but the number of infections will mean hospital numbers will go up. We just don't know by how much yet

[Nicky91]

very nice of Anthony Fauci to say such wonderful words towards our virologist Marion Koopmans

:flutter:

https://www.metronieuws.nl/in-het-nieuws/binnenland/2021/12/steun-bedreigde-marion-koopmans-ikstaachterkoopmans/

dutch article

but Dr Fauci wants our government to support her and he wants her not to give up on her work, how she is one of the best virologists from Netherlands and Globally

[arista]

Friday 17/12/21

111 Have Died
93,045 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,611

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
875

147,048 Total UK Deaths of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

It’s still increasing each day but does kinda look to be slowing down ??


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[AnnieK]

Got my booster tomorrow now

[bots]

i certainly dont think there is anything for anyone to be in a wild panic about yet

[arista]

The PM is to hold Cobra Meetings
over the weekend with Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland


Ref:Times Radio Live

[user104658]

i certainly dont think there is anything for anyone to be in a wild panic about yet

The NHS has no excess capacity ... like ... none. That is the panic. It's not a matter of "it wont be as bad as people think" - it can't be any amount of bad. Forget "a million cases a day" ... if hospital requirements increase 20% people are going to die in the corridors. If ambulance requirements increase 20% people are going to die in their homes (of non-covid things). :shrug:

[bots]

The NHS has no excess capacity ... like ... none. That is the panic. It's not a matter of "it wont be as bad as people think" - it can't be any amount of bad. Forget "a million cases a day" ... if hospital requirements increase 20% people are going to die in the corridors. If ambulance requirements increase 20% people are going to die in their homes (of non-covid things). :shrug:

i think that is another example of vast exaggeration and stirring panic. There is plenty capacity in the nhs at the moment. Many beds lying empty etc etc etc. It's true that some things may suffer in order to deal with a more pressing need, but that has always been the case

[Cherie]

Just ordered our day 2 PCR tests, I could wait no longer, hope we can still get away think it will go to the wire tbh

[Cherie]

NPHET have recommended 5pm Pub Closing times here, our Government haven't made a decision yet on whether to enforce that advice though

confirmed as 8pm now, how are these businesses supposed to survive, a terrible blow at this time of year

[arista]

England now has 65 Omicron Covid Patients in Hospitals.


SkyNewsHD/BBCnewsHD

[arista]

Irish PM live on SkyNewsHD

8PM Curfew On bars and the like To Prevent Omicron.


Also Large Venues
must now be no more than 50% in Ireland

[user104658]

i think that is another example of vast exaggeration and stirring panic. There is plenty capacity in the nhs at the moment. Many beds lying empty etc etc etc. It's true that some things may suffer in order to deal with a more pressing need, but that has always been the case

It isn't unfortunately - my work involves working closely with various people within the NHS, my wife works in the NHS and also has a vast network of people she works with all across healthcare in both Scotland and England. Yes there are beds lying empty. There are entire wards lying empty.

There's no staff, and there are no resources.

People imagine patients spilling out the windows when they hear "no capacity" - that's not what it means. The NHS isn't buildings, it's staff and consumable resources, and it's teetering on the brink of collapse. I'm afraid that's just the reality of it. It's not because of Covid... it's because it was sabotaged to bait-and-switch with a semi privatised system ... deliberately, by the government. High-profile ministers wrote books about that intention. No one was paying attention.

They just failed to consider that there might be an actual healthcare emergency - which there now is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[bots]

England now has 65 Omicron Covid Patients in Hospitals.


SkyNewsHD/BBCnewsHD

yes, but is covid the reason for being there? Being infected at this point means nothing

[bots]

More stringent restrictions need to be brought in "very soon" in England if ministers want to stop hospital admissions reaching 3,000 a day, the government's scientific advisers say.

The BBC has seen leaked minutes of a meeting of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies held on Thursday.

The document says there are "many uncertainties" about the future path of hospitalisations linked to Omicron.

It comes as Omicron is now dominant in England, new analysis suggests.

The number of people requiring treatment in hospital has been rising, with admissions being between 800 and 900 every day in the past week.

According to the leaked minutes, the Sage advisers say that without intervention measures beyond the Plan B rules currently in place, modelling indicates that hospital admissions could peak at "at least" 3,000 a day in England.

The current Plan B rules for England include Covid passes for certain events, face masks in more places and people being urged to work from home if they can.

The other nations of the UK had already brought in similar rules - and Scotland has gone further by asking people to limit social contact to three households at a time in the run-up to Christmas. Wales has also ordered nightclubs to close from 27 December.

The Sage minutes say: "If the aim is to reduce the levels of infection in the population and prevent hospitalisations reaching these levels, more stringent measures would need to be implemented very soon."

The record of the meeting goes on to say that measures equivalent to those in place after Step Two or Step One of the roadmap in England, if enacted early enough, "could substantially reduce the peak in hospital admissions and infections compared with Plan B alone".

Step One and Two of the roadmap for easing lockdown - which was in place in England in the Spring - banned indoor social contact and indoor hospitality. Step Three allowed six people, or two households, to meet indoors and indoor hospitality could reopen.

"The timing of such measures is crucial," say the Sage minutes. "Delaying until 2022 would greatly reduce the effectiveness of such interventions and make it less likely that these would prevent considerable pressure on health and care settings."

Sage meetings are designed to advise officials and ministers about the possible path of the pandemic in certain circumstances rather than offer up concrete predictions.

The Department of Health has been contacted for comment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59707252

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or, lockdown by the backdoor as it is more commonly known

[Cherie]

More stringent restrictions need to be brought in "very soon" in England if ministers want to stop hospital admissions reaching 3,000 a day, the government's scientific advisers say.

The BBC has seen leaked minutes of a meeting of the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies held on Thursday.

The document says there are "many uncertainties" about the future path of hospitalisations linked to Omicron.

It comes as Omicron is now dominant in England, new analysis suggests.

The number of people requiring treatment in hospital has been rising, with admissions being between 800 and 900 every day in the past week.

According to the leaked minutes, the Sage advisers say that without intervention measures beyond the Plan B rules currently in place, modelling indicates that hospital admissions could peak at "at least" 3,000 a day in England.

The current Plan B rules for England include Covid passes for certain events, face masks in more places and people being urged to work from home if they can.

The other nations of the UK had already brought in similar rules - and Scotland has gone further by asking people to limit social contact to three households at a time in the run-up to Christmas. Wales has also ordered nightclubs to close from 27 December.

The Sage minutes say: "If the aim is to reduce the levels of infection in the population and prevent hospitalisations reaching these levels, more stringent measures would need to be implemented very soon."

The record of the meeting goes on to say that measures equivalent to those in place after Step Two or Step One of the roadmap in England, if enacted early enough, "could substantially reduce the peak in hospital admissions and infections compared with Plan B alone".

Step One and Two of the roadmap for easing lockdown - which was in place in England in the Spring - banned indoor social contact and indoor hospitality. Step Three allowed six people, or two households, to meet indoors and indoor hospitality could reopen.

"The timing of such measures is crucial," say the Sage minutes. "Delaying until 2022 would greatly reduce the effectiveness of such interventions and make it less likely that these would prevent considerable pressure on health and care settings."

Sage meetings are designed to advise officials and ministers about the possible path of the pandemic in certain circumstances rather than offer up concrete predictions.

The Department of Health has been contacted for comment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59707252

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or, lockdown by the backdoor as it is more commonly known
If admission are going up 900 a day that is 6000 a week but not reflected in the daily figures which are pretty steady ....what is going on

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/17/19/51934417-10322411-Chancellor_Rishi_Sunak_has_been_pictured_arriving_ back_in_the_UK-m-17_1639770575994.jpg
Rishi Sunak is back

But no signs of Money help.

[arista]

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Touchy Scottish Leader

[arista]

CNN HD
reports from a Scottish Lab
Omicron can reinfect five times faster

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/omicron-five-times-more-likely-reinfect-than-delta-study-says-2021-12-17/

[Cherie]

If admission are going up 900 a day that is 6000 a week but not reflected in the daily figures which are pretty steady ....what is going on

Anyone

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/18/07/51949947-0-image-m-3_1639813195193.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/18/07/51944313-10323143-NEWCASTLE_A_group_of_girls_celebrating_their_frien d_s_21st_birth-a-10_1639812055592.jpg
[NEWCASTLE: A group of girls celebrating
their friend's 21st birthday hit the clubs
on the final Friday before Christmas]

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/18/07/51834267-10323143-image-a-31_1639812056060.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10323143/Covid-Covid-Little-sign-Omicron-fears-Brits-enjoy-night-Christmas.html

[arista]

Anyone

Live Debate on LBC
now

A Prof. wants us to act today.


But Parliament is not Opening on Monday.

[Cherie]

Live Debate on LBC
now

A Prof. wants us to act today.


But Parliament is not Opening on Monday.

The figures dont stack up, you post them every day are they going up by 900 per day?

[Cherie]

Also someone said we shouldnt be looking at SA as they got their immunity in a different way...i.e herd immunity...

[Cherie]

Thursday 16/12/21

146 have Died
88,376 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,579


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
886


146,937 UK Total of Covid -19 deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Friday 17/12/21

111 Have Died
93,045 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,611

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
875

147,048 Total UK Deaths of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

.

that doesnt look like an extra 900 people to me?

[bots]

the only thing it could be is that more people left hospital than were admitted ..... the number is a current snapshot, not the number of admissions/leavers

[Cherie]

the only thing it could be is that more people left hospital than were admitted ..... the number is a current snapshot, not the number of admissions/leavers

what it the point of daily numbers then if they are not reasonably accurate?

may as well do weekly ones

[bots]

they show the current bed occupancy, but even then, it could be someone in hospital with an itchy foot that also happens to have covid, so i think it all needs to be taken with a pinch of salt

[Cherie]

From the BBC article posted on the previous page

The number of people requiring treatment in hospital has been rising, with admissions being between 800 and 900 every day in the past week.


This is what we are being told yet it seems journalists dont want to do due diligence on the numbers just churn it out unsubstansiated ...

something is not right

[Cherie]

I suppose the only thing you can say about the above is they said 'requiring treatment' ...they didn't necessarily say covid treatment :laugh:

[bots]

i just have no faith in the media at all it this point. They want a lockdown this christmas so they can then moan about the government having a lockdown, and they are doing everything in their power at the moment to try and force a lockdown whether its actually needed or not

[arista]

i just have no faith in the media at all it this point. They want a lockdown this christmas so they can then moan about the government having a lockdown, and they are doing everything in their power at the moment to try and force a lockdown whether its actually needed or not


Recall Parliament on Monday

[Zizu]

Also someone said we shouldnt be looking at SA as they got their immunity in a different way...i.e herd immunity...


Didn’t one of the top guys say that herd immunity isn’t gonna be an option for us with Covid19 (for some reason I forget )

The SA are apparently much younger nation ( average) compared to us which is an important factor apparently


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[Zizu]

i just have no faith in the media at all it this point. They want a lockdown this christmas so they can then moan about the government having a lockdown, and they are doing everything in their power at the moment to try and force a lockdown whether its actually needed or not


The media are parasites though aren’t they ... they just want stories even it means them driving or even ‘guiding’ the storylines.

I get vexed with people like that Beth woman who loves jumping on any gossip or someone who’s done something against the rules yet wasn’t she herself suspended from Sky for 3 months for braking the Covid 19 rules ?


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[Alf]

Live from Parliament square


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[Beso]

I suppose the only thing you can say about the above is they said 'requiring treatment' ...they didn't necessarily say covid treatment :laugh:

They wont be allowed to stay overnight if they are prescribed a dose of paracetamol for their covid.

[Beso]

Live from Parliament square


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Its supposed to be a massive one today, I was invited along by someone last week, but I'm working.

[Zizu]

We have agreed as a family to not mention the dirty Covid word again until early January :)

Have a lovely Christmas everyone


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[Nicky91]

Netherlands: another covid press conference tonight

and very likely we will get a hard lockdown again


so all non-essential stores, barbers, pubs, restaurants must close

[Alf]

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[arista]

Its supposed to be a massive one today, I was invited along by someone last week, but I'm working.


Good you are Working.
These Anti Vaxxees are not good.

[Alf]

Good you are Working.
These Anti Vaxxees are not good.They're not in hospital or ill from Covid either

[bots]

The mayor of London has warned he is "incredibly concerned" by Covid cases in the city - after a record rise was reported on Friday.

Sadiq Khan said the 26,000 new cases were having an impact on staff absences in the city's emergency services.

Latest government data has shown there are 1,534 Covid patients in London hospitals - up 28.6% on last week.

It comes after ministers were warned England's hospital admissions could reach 3,000 a day without new measures.

Mr Khan said: "The big issue we have is the number of Londoners who have this virus and this is leading to big issues in relation to staff absences and the ability of our public services to run at the optimal levels.

"I'm incredibly concerned about the number of Londoners with this variant but also the impact on our hospitals.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59711474

[arista]

They're not in hospital or ill from Covid either

No but after, some could be in Hospital
with Covid-19.

[Alf]

No but after, some could be in Hospital
with Covid-19.If's, but's and maybe's. The story of Covid.

[arista]

10,059 Confirmed Omicron Covid Cases
24,968 Total Omicron cases.

7 Deaths Confirmed from Omicron


Also :

London Mayor declares ‘major incident’ following rapid spread of Covid-19

Which means
Fireman can drive Ambulances etc
because of staff shortage.


Re:SkyNewsHD Live

[Livia]

So many people who are hospitalised are unvaccinated, it must be very frustrating for the medical profession. If people don't believe in the vaccine, fine. It would be nice if they would sign something to say that when they come down with covid they refuse medical intervention.

[arista]

So many people who are hospitalised are unvaccinated, it must be very frustrating for the medical profession. If people don't believe in the vaccine, fine. It would be nice if they would sign something to say that when they come down with covid they refuse medical intervention.


Yes it's a real problem.

[Alf]

So many people who are hospitalised are unvaccinated, it must be very frustrating for the medical profession. If people don't believe in the vaccine, fine. It would be nice if they would sign something to say that when they come down with covid they refuse medical intervention.Even the people who are vaccinated don't think the vaccine is fine. Look at Arista for example, he's fully junked up to the eyeballs on vaccines and he's still living in fear because he doesn't trust that the vaccines do what they're supposed to do.

[Alf]

Yes it a real problem.It's bullish!t until you prove it. I want to see all people who are in hospital and ask them all if they're vaxed or not? That would be more proof than taking the word of the vaccine sales department.

[Alf]

So many people who are hospitalised are unvaccinated, it must be very frustrating for the medical profession. If people don't believe in the vaccine, fine. It would be nice if they would sign something to say that when they come down with covid they refuse medical intervention.The medical profession are tossing it off doing tiktok dances and spending their time in test centres testing healthy people whilst sick people are going without care.

[arista]

Saturday 18/12/21

125 Have Died
90,418 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,611

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
875


147,173 Total Covid-19 Deaths in thew UK

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bots]

So the infection rate is settling down again .... panic over

[arista]

Even the people who are vaccinated don't think the vaccine is fine. Look at Arista for example, he's fully junked up to the eyeballs on vaccines and he's still living in fear because he doesn't trust that the vaccines do what they're supposed to do.


You are funny.


Most of us now have 3 vaccines.
What they can do is reduce Covid Hitting Hard,
Sure Both Vaccinated and Unvaccinated can Die
of this China Covid-19 Virus.

It could have come from that Lab
in China.
But Evil Leaders in China
have destroyed all records.



China now has Omicron
and they lock down the Port it is in.

[arista]

So the infection rate is settling down again .... panic over


Numbers go down at weekends


Let see on Tuesday.

[bots]

Numbers go down at weekends


Let see on Tuesday.

the infection numbers dont go down at weekends, and these come from friday anyway

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: hard lockdown at least until January 14th

everything non-essential must close, all schools must close, theatres and cinema's must close


takeaways remain possible but still not to make it a daytrip just get the foods or drinks you want and leave the store as soon as possible again



outdoors maximum of 2 people together, indoors also maximum of 2 visitors received

only at christmas exception of maximum of 4 people indoors

[Cherie]

Netherlands: hard lockdown at least until January 14th

everything non-essential must close, all schools must close, theatres and cinema's must close


takeaways remain possible but still not to make it a daytrip just get the foods or drinks you want and leave the store as soon as possible again



outdoors maximum of 2 people together, indoors also maximum of 2 visitors received

only at christmas exception of maximum of 4 people indoors


Ouch

[arista]

[Everything non-essential must close, all schools must close,
theatres and cinema's must close]

Yes Nicky
Good move in the Netherlands
Covid is Trouble.

[Nicky91]

we here see that it is urgent when RIVM's boss Jaap van Dissel will also be there in tonight's press conference (he hasn't done this all the way since early 2020)

[MTVN]

Some anti-vaxxers in Bristol today holding signs saying 'leave our kids alone' and had what looked like an 8 or 9 year old speaking into a megaphone about 'putting poison into our bodies' which is so messed up :skull:

I'm out having a pint now and last Saturday before Christmas it should be heaving but empty tables all around, kitchen closed because everyone kept cancelling their bookings

[Cherie]

Some anti-vaxxers in Bristol today holding signs saying 'leave our kids alone' and had what looked like an 8 or 9 year old speaking into a megaphone about 'putting poison into our bodies' which is so messed up :skull:

I'm out having a pint now and last Saturday before Christmas it should be heaving but empty tables all around, kitchen closed because everyone kept cancelling their bookings

A stealth lockdown with zero support

[user104658]

So the infection rate is settling down again .... panic over


Declaring “panics over” after 3 days of record numbers is one take on it I guess.

[MTVN]

Infection rates have peaked! :dance:

[bots]

Declaring “panics over” after 3 days of record numbers is one take on it I guess.

we had 1 day with a big jump in infections, i was expecting it to rise by even more each subsequent day and it hasn't, its settling, its not showing any signs of exponential growth. Why can't people be happy when things appear like they aren't as bad as people were predicting. I think people want a ****ing disaster scenario, i really do

[Crimson Dynamo]

4 lads in my row at footy all sharing a vape

#weenic#profwhitty#nhsoverwhelmed

[user104658]

we had 1 day with a big jump in infections, i was expecting it to rise by even more each subsequent day and it hasn't, its settling, its not showing any signs of exponential growth. Why can't people be happy when things appear like they aren't as bad as people were predicting. I think people want a ****ing disaster scenario, i really do


It’s not about “wanting” a disaster scenario, but it is sensible to be prepared for bad scenarios rather than trying to get by on raw optimism.

Maybe it is settling, I’m not saying that I hope you’re wrong, I’m saying that drawing that conclusion from a couple of days worth of data is dumb. We don’t know anything from these numbers, no conclusions can be drawn from them at all, until we have at least a week+ (10 days would probably be a decent measure) to go on.

Believing that a couple of days showing less increase is conclusive of anything tends to just result in people getting an unpleasant shock when there’s a sudden jump later and it turns out that there’s been a flaw in reporting mechanisms or somewhere else.

For example…

We’ve been told repeatedly that some areas have run out of PCR tests. If people (with mild symptoms) aren’t being tested and recover fine after a few days, then they were never added to the numbers.

The important figures - as ever - are hospitalisations and deaths. We’re not going to have an accurate picture on those for at least another week or two.

[Zizu]

the infection numbers dont go down at weekends, and these come from friday anyway


To be fair the numbers DO drop substantially each Sat / Sun/ Mon then Tuesday catches up

It’s a technical hitch not the infections slowing down each weekend


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[Zizu]

So the infection rate is settling down again .... panic over


90,000 on Saturday suggests that Tuesday’s will be well over 100,000 !!


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[Zizu]

Infection rates have peaked! :dance:


Not even close to peaking imho


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[user104658]

For my two cents, I think ever hitting 1 million cases a day is extremely unlikely but over 250k/day certainly possible.

[Zizu]

For my two cents, I think ever hitting 1 million cases a day is extremely unlikely but over 250k/day certainly possible.


Sadly I agree ..


Just have to hope it is indeed milder and the vast majority don’t need hospital treatment or we are completely fecked


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[bots]

if we remember back to when we first re-opened the government at the time said don't be surprised if we hit 100k infections, so they were quite happy to deal with that number of infections per day and have restrictions completely removed. Yes, infections may still rise but its not exponential growth, that means hospitals have more time to deal with things.

I accept the point that the pcr testing could be way out, but that is true all the time surely

[user104658]

Oh I think it could be fairly safely assumed that actual daily positive cases are (always) at least 2x the number of positive tests. Maybe more like 3x. That’s really always been the case, many mild cases and the majority of asymptomatic cases aren’t in the figures.

[Zizu]

Pity Omicron didn’t come in Jan rather than bladdy December :(


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

[Johnson and his ministers
ignore Scientists' Pleas for even tougher
Covid restrictions before Christmas
as yesterday's cases
top 90,000 - but 'could impose crackdown as soon as Boxing Day']

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10325299/Boris-Johnson-ignores-scientists-pleas-Covid-restrictions-Christmas.html


This does not sound right
Can not start this on a Holiday day.

[arista]

[Javid refuses to deny plans for more restrictions
as he accuses anti-vaxxers of having 'damaging impact']


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-javid-refuses-to-deny-plans-for-more-restrictions-as-he-accuses-anti-vaxxers-of-having-damaging-impact-12499691

[Zizu]

So another country has banned uk visitors ( Germany ) so are we the only country where omicron is running absolutely crazy ?

If so why would that be ?


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[arista]

So another country has banned uk visitors ( Germany ) so are we the only country where omicron is running absolutely crazy ?

If so why would that be ?



Not the Same as what France has done:



[COVID-19: Germany announces quarantine
for UK travellers to slow Omicron spread

It comes after France banned travel to and from
the UK without a "compelling" reason
as concern grows in Europe over Britain's Omicron situation.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-germany-announces-quarantine-for-travellers-from-uk-12499609

[Zizu]

Also someone just said on the radio that little children ( say under 7) aren’t a concern as they RARELY pass on the COVID-19 infection as they only carry a very small viral load ?!??


Is this true or another piece of misinformation?


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[arista]

[COVID news live: Sajid Javid says actual coronavirus infections
'significantly higher' than official figures show

Coronavirus latest as SAGE warns more
restrictions are needed "within days", tougher
measures 'could be imposed after Boxing Day'; Omicron cases
in the UK increase by more than 10,000;
Netherlands goes into lockdown.]


The Live Link
https://news.sky.com/story/covid-news-live-omicron-forcing-difficult-decisions-on-christmas-restrictions-as-boris-johnson-faces-fresh-lockdown-party-claims-12469075

[Zizu]

Not the Same as what France has done:



[COVID-19: Germany announces quarantine
for UK travellers to slow Omicron spread

It comes after France banned travel to and from
the UK without a "compelling" reason
as concern grows in Europe over Britain's Omicron situation.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-germany-announces-quarantine-for-travellers-from-uk-12499609


Ok but it still suggests that they regard the UK as a concern .. why though


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[arista]

Also someone just said on the radio that little children ( say under 7) aren’t a concern as they RARELY pass on the COVID-19 infection as they only carry a very small viral load ?!??


Is this true or another piece of misinformation?




I think they do pass it on.

[arista]

Ok but it still suggests that they regard the UK as a concern .. why though



Because we have High numbers catching Omicron,


Nickys Nation (Netherlands)
has had the sense to Lockdown Proper

[Zizu]

Surely if it’s so virulent the whole world would be shutting down to all other countries rather than just the uk

Just wondered why we seem to be doing worse than everyone else ?


Is it simply due to us being a tiny island with a dense ( both meanings ) population ??


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[Crimson Dynamo]

"Still, it is worth pointing out that, at every stage, the models used by public health
agencies exaggerated the numbers of infections and of deaths. Indeed, it may well be
that, once again, the lockdown will come into effect only after the peak in new infections
has passed. Why do our leaders keep falling for it?

Because, I’m afraid, all the incentives are stacked one way. No politician ever gets into
trouble for erring on the side of caution. Nor does any public health adviser. No one has
ever been hounded from office for spending too much on test and trace, or for imposing
restrictions that had little effect, or for making predictions that were excessively
alarmist. Make the slightest slip the other way, though, and you’re finished."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/18/know-lockdown-social-economic-disaster-please-boris-dont-do/

[MTVN]

We always fare badly because we're densely populated and see a lot of international travel. Plus a lot of European countries basically never gave up restrictions whereas we've thankfully had none

Holland going back into lockdown will tell you that plenty of other countries are seeing massive cases as well though

[arista]

Surely if it’s so virulent the whole world would be shutting down to all other countries rather than just the uk

Just wondered why we seem to be doing worse than everyone else ?


Is it simply due to us being a tiny island with a dense ( both meanings ) population ??




Yes New York
has Omicron as bad as the UK.


But China gets Omicron in a Port
they Close that Port
Test EVERYONE
Put's it into fast Lockdown.
No one can leave that zone

[Cherie]

"Still, it is worth pointing out that, at every stage, the models used by public health
agencies exaggerated the numbers of infections and of deaths. Indeed, it may well be
that, once again, the lockdown will come into effect only after the peak in new infections
has passed. Why do our leaders keep falling for it?

Because, I’m afraid, all the incentives are stacked one way. No politician ever gets into
trouble for erring on the side of caution. Nor does any public health adviser. No one has
ever been hounded from office for spending too much on test and trace, or for imposing
restrictions that had little effect, or for making predictions that were excessively
alarmist. Make the slightest slip the other way, though, and you’re finished."

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/18/know-lockdown-social-economic-disaster-please-boris-dont-do/


Precisely


Wales had a circuit breaker last year that made no difference at all ...

[arista]

Precisely


Wales had a circuit breaker last year that made no difference at all ...


They did it too late.

[Livia]

The medical profession are tossing it off doing tiktok dances and spending their time in test centres testing healthy people whilst sick people are going without care.

I'm sorry Alfie, that is just not true. If people don't want to get jabbed, that's up to them, but then to expect to receive medical treatment when it all goes the shape of the pear.... No.

You must be the only person in the country who think that the medical profession are "tossing it off doing tiktok dances...." and as much as I adore you, that's a really awful and misguided thing to say.

[user104658]

I think part of the issue is that people see nurses on a break when a ward is busy and think “hmph they shouldn’t get a break when it’s so busy”. But it’s always that busy… and they don’t get paid for that break… so essentially it’s saying that hospital staff shouldn’t get breaks, ever, and should also work an extra half hour a day for no pay.

I don’t know about anyone else, but if I’m in hospital, I don’t want to be being watched over by a member of medical staff who is burnt out and hasn’t eaten all day? Just asking for critical errors to happen.

[Alf]

I'm sorry Alfie, that is just not true. If people don't want to get jabbed, that's up to them, but then to expect to receive medical treatment when it all goes the shape of the pear.... No.

You must be the only person in the country who think that the medical profession are "tossing it off doing tiktok dances...." and as much as I adore you, that's a really awful and misguided thing to say.The hospitals are full of people who can't be put into care homes because 60,000 care home workers have just been fired, yet you claim they're full of unvaccinated people. As far as I can see the unvaccinated people are not in hospital, they're out on the streets protesting.

[Crimson Dynamo]

y1nqQOn6Rbc

[arista]

Sunday 19/12/21

45 have Died
82,886 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,611

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
875


147,218 Total UK Deaths of Covid-19


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Alf]

1472600350679089158

[Crimson Dynamo]

Covid hotspot figures show NHS may avoid being overwhelmed by omicron - here’s why

Sharp rise in cases in South Northamptonshire has not been followed by
comparable growth in hospital admissions, data show

Analysis by The Telegraph of Britain’s outbreak hotspot of the new variant
reveals that the spike in cases is not being followed by a comparable rise in
hospital admissions.


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/12/18/covid-hotspot-figures-show-nhs-may-avoid-overwhelmed-omicron/

[MTVN]

Another fall in cases, Omicron is over

[arista]

Another fall in cases, Omicron is over


Sadly it is not
still growing
Spreading much faster

[bots]

Another fall in cases, Omicron is over

its certainly not rising exponentially that's for sure. No doubt the doom mongers will continue with their narrative regardless

[Crimson Dynamo]

Aristacron

[Alf]

What?

Also, notice when mentioning the one death she uses the word "with" and not "from"


1472339796496240640

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/19/18/51989455-0-image-m-20_1639937243348.jpg

[Number of cases has risen by 32,473 (64.4%) in
seven days but is lower than yesterday's figure of 90,418]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10326463/UK-daily-Covid-infections-rise-64-82-886-deaths-fall-111-45.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Footballers who refuse to be jabbed should be refused treatment for injuries. After all, why should they trust doctors about treatment for broken legs &amp; torn ligaments if they don’t trust them about a life-saving vaccine?</p>&mdash; Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) <a href="https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1472506449494433794?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">December 19, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/19/18/51989455-0-image-m-20_1639937243348.jpg

[Number of cases has risen by 32,473 (64.4%) in
seven days but is lower than yesterday's figure of 90,418]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10326463/UK-daily-Covid-infections-rise-64-82-886-deaths-fall-111-45.html

they were showing empty streets in Scotland

why are they now showing crowded streets

their trolling for likes/money is a national disgrace

[user104658]

I’ll just reiterate what I said before. A few days worth of data is nowhere near enough to be drawing conclusions from, and the attempts to do so are at best wishful thinking, and at worst dangerously dumb.

It might be fine. It might be a disaster. We simply don’t know yet, there hasn’t been enough data to make any sort of projection. Why do people keep trying? Why are people still declaring it a “false alarm” or “over” based on less than a week’s data that includes the notoriously unreliable weekend numbers?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I’ll just reiterate what I said before. A few days worth of data is nowhere near enough to be drawing conclusions from, and the attempts to do so are at best wishful thinking, and at worst dangerously dumb.

It might be fine. It might be a disaster. We simply don’t know yet, there hasn’t been enough data to make any sort of projection. Why do people keep trying? Why are people still declaring it a “false alarm” or “over” based on less than a week’s data that includes the notoriously unreliable weekend numbers?

history tells us that Sage get it wrong 100% of the time

[Alf]

Nobody found out the flu figures yet? Do they match up to years of the past figures?

[arista]

Ch4HDnews reports
12 deaths from Omicron Covid-19 now

[Beso]

I'm still negative, with my booster due on Thursday..covid 0 parmy 1

[Alf]

Ch4HDnews reports
12 deaths from Omicron Covid-19 nowWhere's this report?

[arista]

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-reports-leap-10000-confirmed-omicron-coronavirus-cases-2021-12-18/

A day ago, it was 7 Deaths of Omicron.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ch4HDnews reports
12 deaths from Omicron Covid-19 now

1753 people died today in the UK

163,898 worldwide

every day

regardless of covid

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tescos ill-advised

"This Christmas nothing is stopping us" adverts need to be pulled and pulled now

[bots]

there were 1.5 million more tests performed in the last week compared to the week before. That alone would increase the number of positive tests found

[Alf]

there were 1.5 million more tests performed in the last week compared to the week before. That alone would increase the number of positive tests foundEspecially when the tests have a history of producing false positives

[Zizu]

1753 people died today in the UK

163,898 worldwide

every day

regardless of covid


Bloody hell I thought for a moment that that was our daily Covid deaths !!


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[arista]

Labour Leader Starmer
says on SkyNewsHD/ BBCnewsHD
he is ready to back a new plan from the Conservatives
on Covid.

[Nicky91]

good job from France :)


also this was yesterday in Paris, perfect organisation by France TV, all of the audience at the JESC 2021 final had face masks

https://static.junioreurovision.tv/hb-cgi/images/9526ac91-0ec5-4975-a8fe-79f64cdfd46d/gallery-1024.jpg

https://static.junioreurovision.tv/hb-cgi/images/9526ac1d-47ce-4ad2-bd99-d8601e958274/gallery-1024.jpg

https://static.junioreurovision.tv/hb-cgi/images/9526abbd-9d96-458d-bb98-8d0ea34f078c/gallery-1024.jpg


EBU's Executive Supervisor Martin Osterdahl was full of praise for France TV's hard work making this possible amid the current situation of the covid pandemic

[arista]

Johnson having a Cabinet meeting now
but no new money announced, yet.

Meanwhile, Nickys Nation
is in Full Lockdown


Omicron in is 40 states
in the USA
Sport Events getting cancelled.
Biden is set to announce more help
tomorrow.
Many in Biden's Cabinet now have Covid.




SkyNewsHD/BBCnewsHD/Wion HD/TRTworld HD/Times Radio/FoxNewsHD
CNN HD

[Zizu]

good job from France :)


also this was yesterday in Paris, perfect organisation by France TV, all of the audience at the JESC 2021 final had face masks

https://static.junioreurovision.tv/hb-cgi/images/9526ac91-0ec5-4975-a8fe-79f64cdfd46d/gallery-1024.jpg

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EBU's Executive Supervisor Martin Osterdahl was full of praise for France TV's hard work making this possible amid the current situation of the covid pandemic


Still looks like a Covid-ridden nightmare !!

Hope they don’t all think they’re safe wearing those cheapo masks .. maybe just a tad safer


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[arista]

28 Dec in Germany
Strict Lockdown takes over

[Nicky91]

Still looks like a Covid-ridden nightmare !!

Hope they don’t all think they’re safe wearing those cheapo masks .. maybe just a tad safer


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likely that they are also all tested upon entering, but good they have had to wear face masks as an extra precaution too

[arista]

Still looks like a Covid-ridden nightmare !!

Hope they don’t all think they’re safe wearing those cheapo masks .. maybe just a tad safer



Yes some spreading there

[arista]

Most of the Covid-19 cases
in New York City are the bloody Unvaccinated, again.

CNN HD Business Live in NYC.

[Zizu]

Most of the Covid-19 cases
in New York City are the bloody Unvaccinated, again.

CNN HD Business Live in NYC.


Won’t they all have to pay for their own medical care ??


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[arista]

Won’t they all have to pay for their own medical care ??



No
they give Free Vaccines in USA.

[arista]

Monday 20/12/21

44 have Died
91,743 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,482


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
879

147,261 Total UK Deaths of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Alf]

Most of the Covid-19 cases
in New York City are the bloody Unvaccinated, again.

CNN HD Business Live in NYC.Does that mean most of the cases are gonna end in death? Or will the immune system win the battle?

I remember right at the start when they were saying New York is the hot-spot of the US, so Trump sent a medical ship out to New York and opened temporary hospitals in Central Park. Neither was used.

How's Florida?

[arista]

Does that mean most of the cases are gonna end in death? Or will the immune system win the battle?

I remember right at the start when they were saying New York is the hot-spot of the US, so Trump sent a medical ship out to New York and opened temporary hospitals in Central Park. Neither was used.

How's Florida?


Alf there is New Life Saving Medicine
that keeps them alive
while these bloody UnVaccinated take up beds.


Florida has more deaths

[arista]

Another Recorded Statement
from Johnson Prime Minister

on now SkyNewsHD.

It is to an ITV1HDnews deputy political reporter Anushka Asthana



He is so far sticking with Plan B.
But may take further action to protect
everyone.

[arista]

BBCnewsHD now playing it

[arista]

The reporter asked
for Money help.

But he (Johnson) goes on about existing packages.

[bots]

its pretty obvious that they don't want another lockdown christmas at any cost. Im not convinced its necessary myself but the pressure will be on in a week

[arista]

its pretty obvious that they don't want another lockdown christmas at any cost. Im not convinced its necessary myself but the pressure will be on in a week



Yes.
I think a Lockdown could be soon

[arista]

It is around 9 to 10mins long


Still Playing on BBCnewsHD

[arista]

SkyNewsHD "predicts" Parliament
could reopen on Weds 29th of Dec.


Possible new measures.

[arista]

8,044
Omicron Covid cases reported in last 24hours.


From UK Health Security Agency.

Omicron Covid Total Cases in the UK : 41,145

SkyNewsHD

[Denver]

They can't keep putting the country into lockdown constantly, they either trust the vaccines or they don't but if they don't trust them why are they asking people to get them? We were told vaccines would gives us our freedom back not take it away again in 6 months

[arista]

They can't keep putting the country into lockdown constantly, they either trust the vaccines or they don't but if they don't trust them why are they asking people to get them? We were told vaccines would gives us our freedom back not take it away again in 6 months


Netherlands has
Germany will on the 28 Dec.


Labour want it.

Prime Minister Johnson can bring it in
when cases get so high.

[bots]

8,044
Omicron Covid cases reported in last 24hours.


From UK Health Security Agency.

Omicron Covid Total Cases in the UK : 41,145

SkyNewsHD

wasn't it 10,000 yesterday, not my definition of an exponential rise

[arista]

wasn't it 10,000 yesterday, not my definition of an exponential rise

Yes

[arista]

The Queen is going to spend Xmas at Windsor
this year.

[Alf]

The Queen is going to spend Xmas at Windsor
this year.Is she cooking her own turkey and sprouts?

[Alf]

Would you like me to be the cat?


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[arista]

[PM Johnson delays decision on imposing
further Covid curbs after emergency Cabinet
meeting but says he can ‘rule nothing out’
on new rules before Christmas and data
on Omicron will be kept under ‘hour by hour’ review
Boris Johnson today convened emergency
meeting of his Cabinet as ministers
discussed spread of Omicron
No final decision was made on imposing
extra restrictions but PM said the
Government can 'rule nothing out'
Lack of firm decision on curbs before
Christmas sparked angry Tory backlash
as MPs said people need clarity
Mr Johnson said the 'situations
is extremely difficult' and the
'arguments either way are very
finely balanced']


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/19/16/51834267-10326463-image-a-105_1639932843668.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10328267/D-day-Christmas-Boris-Johnson-considers-new-Covid-curbs.html

[arista]

Is she cooking her own turkey and sprouts?


No, her staff will do that.

[Alf]

If you're told that you need a chip put in your body to make living with Covid easier, would that be going too far for you or would you happily go along with it because you've been told it's for the common good?You all think I'm crazy. I'm not crazy, I'm just ahead of the news.


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[bots]

Is she cooking her own turkey and sprouts?

andrew will get some pizzas in

[Crimson Dynamo]

[PM Johnson delays decision on imposing
further Covid curbs after emergency Cabinet
meeting but says he can ‘rule nothing out’
on new rules before Christmas and data
on Omicron will be kept under ‘hour by hour’ review
Boris Johnson today convened emergency
meeting of his Cabinet as ministers
discussed spread of Omicron
No final decision was made on imposing
extra restrictions but PM said the
Government can 'rule nothing out'
Lack of firm decision on curbs before
Christmas sparked angry Tory backlash
as MPs said people need clarity
Mr Johnson said the 'situations
is extremely difficult' and the
'arguments either way are very
finely balanced']


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/19/16/51834267-10326463-image-a-105_1639932843668.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10328267/D-day-Christmas-Boris-Johnson-considers-new-Covid-curbs.html

is there a scientific link and not one who makes money from clickbait?

[bots]

yesterday omicron was over 70% in london now its 60%. Yesterday there were 10k omicron infections, today there are 8k. Do the press understand what they are reporting - a decrease in the omicron problem

[Crimson Dynamo]

andrew will get some pizzas in

made with the best P-dough?

[Alf]

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[Beso]

A quick explanation of omicrom compared to the past variants.

The past variants made their way into the lower part of the lung, causing the patient to basically drown.(lung conaolidation)

Omicrom remains in the tubes going into the lung( the bronchial passages), causing bronchial problems.


So what this means is we spew out the omicrom easier by coughing more, and sneezing. But the benefit off it is, the fact that it remains sticky in the passageways, to stop the big covid getting down to the bottom of the lung.

Your first 2 jabs made your body do this itself, so be brave, get another jab.


(In short, our bodies are causing omicrom as a defence against the covid. The injections gave it the clue)



Dr parmy.

[Alf]

A quick explanation of omicrom compared to the past variants.

The past variants made their way into the lower part of the lung, causing the patient to basically drown.(lung conaolidation)

Omicrom remains in the tubes going into the lung( the bronchial passages), causing bronchial problems.


So what this means is we spew out the omicrom easier by coughing more, and sneezing. But the benefit off it is, the fact that it remains sticky in the passageways, to stop the big covid getting down to the bottom of the lung.

Your first 2 jabs made your body do this itself, so be brave, get another jab.


(In short, our bodies are causing omicrom as a defence against the covid. The injections gave it the clue)



Dr parmy.It won't dare come near my smoke filled lungs.

[Beso]

It won't dare come near my smoke filled lungs.

It wont, smoking is a plus against covid believe it or not.

[Zizu]

Monday 20/12/21

44 have Died
91,743 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,482


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
879

147,261 Total UK Deaths of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Sadly that suppressed Monday infections figure suggests to me that we will be close to 100,000 infections tomorrow or Wednesday at the latest


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[Zizu]

No
they give Free Vaccines in USA.


No I mean the medical care the sick Covid people will now need will have to be paid for ...


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[Beso]

It won't dare come near my smoke filled lungs.

I'm not sure about omicrom though, your lungs might need the air getting a clearer passage to your failing tar riddled organ.:shrug:

[Zizu]

wasn't it 10,000 yesterday, not my definition of an exponential rise


Sat / Sunday / Monday figures are ALWAYS lower than the actual ones and as such they can’t be taken that seriously imho


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[bots]

Sat / Sunday / Monday figures are ALWAYS lower than the actual ones and as such they can’t be taken that seriously imho


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an exponential infection doesnt drop on the weekend. % infected doesnt drop in the most infected area unless its peaked there

[Beso]

I'm going to dodge my booster, for now.

I think if we have to much our bronchial passageways will block up to much from our own defences, causing us to die en mass, just as intended.

I remember not being able to get my 2nd jab a day before it's due date..then all of a sudden they have halved the waiting time for the booster..seems a bit off to me..

So I will wait about until march, as it seems like the month that matters most years

[Denver]

The only reason they had high wait times between each jab was because they wanted to get as many people jabbed as possible

[Beso]

The only reason they had high wait times between each jab was because they wanted to get as many people jabbed as possible

They should have scared the **** out of us way back then, then. Cause the uptake of the booster in the past few days has been astronomical.

[Zizu]

an exponential infection doesnt drop on the weekend. % infected doesnt drop in the most infected area unless its peaked there


It’s not the actual infections that drop on Sat / Sun / Monday ... it’s the recording of the stats that is effected . They’ve been noticeably lower on those three days since the damn infection appeared


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[thesheriff443]

I'm going to dodge my booster, for now.

I think if we have to much our bronchial passageways will block up to much from our own defences, causing us to die en mass, just as intended.

I remember not being able to get my 2nd jab a day before it's due date..then all of a sudden they have halved the waiting time for the booster..seems a bit off to me..

So I will wait about until march, as it seems like the month that matters most years

That’s a bad way to think, you already had two doses and put your faith in the vaccine, get your booster mate

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

BBC Text:
The paper says the PM faced a
"wave of cabinet opposition"
to new restrictions which have forced
him to shelve decisions including
a potential post-Christmas "circuit breaker"
until ministers have seen new data.]

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[Zizu]

That’s a bad way to think, you already had two doses and put your faith in the vaccine, get your booster mate


Yes I totally agree .

I have a few workmates who could have had the booster last week but chose to wait until after Christmas so they weren’t poorly over the festive break !!
So they’re drastically under covered over this crucial next two weeks !!

Unbelievable

[arista]

I'm going to dodge my booster, for now.

I think if we have to much our bronchial passageways will block up to much from our own defences, causing us to die en mass, just as intended.

I remember not being able to get my 2nd jab a day before it's due date..then all of a sudden they have halved the waiting time for the booster..seems a bit off to me..

So I will wait about until march, as it seems like the month that matters most years


Look Parmy
Just go Very Early
Get in the Front of the Line

[Zizu]

Heard one of those friend of a friend rumours last night..

Apparently loads and loads of young people (under 35) are having strokes and / or blood clots after having a vaccine jab BUT as soon as it’s reported on social media the authorities take it down ...


One of our friends is seriously scared now despite all our reasoning and reassurances .

It sounds like a load of complete bollox to me plus the idea of the government having a system in place to delete any damaging rumours also seems preposterous


Thoughts please .. or any arguments we can use to try and calm her down

Thanks


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Heard one of those friend of a friend rumours last night..

Apparently loads and loads of young people (under 35) are having strokes and / or blood clots after having a vaccine jab BUT as soon as it’s reported on social media the authorities take it down ...


One of our friends is seriously scared now despite all our reasoning and reassurances .

It sounds like a load of complete bollox to me plus the idea of the government having a system in place to delete any damaging rumours also seems preposterous

"BUT as soon as it’s reported on social media the authorities take it down "



Thoughts please .. or any arguments we can use to try and calm her down

Thanks


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Google translate: But as soon as unsubstantiated bollocks is posted on social media it is rightly removed.