Coronavirus Outbreak : England Removed All Restrictions

[Cherie]

Friday 14/1/22

270 have Died
99,625 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
19,539

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
777


151,612 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Friday 21/1/22

288 have Died
95,787 Have Caught Covid-19


Patients in hospital
Latest available
17,976


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
664


153,490 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
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[user104658]

they need to get the masks of children

its abuseThey don't give a **** :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

They don't give a **** :shrug:

you are speaking for all children now?

wow

[Zizu]

you are speaking for all children now?

wow


I’d say only about 20 % of our teenage pupils abided by mask wearing rule in OUR school ..


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[user104658]

you are speaking for all children now?

wow"wow"

[glib]

"wow"

Top 20 hit for Kate Bush in 1979

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[Crimson Dynamo]

I’d say only about 20 % of our teenage pupils abided by mask wearing rule in OUR school ..


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Hopefully they will all take them off

[user104658]

Hopefully they will all take them offWhat are you basing this on?

[Crimson Dynamo]

What are you basing this on?

The latest data on mask wearing efficiency

[Vanessa]

Cant wait to take the masks off at work.
They just get in the way

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm sure you are in across it in children?

:skull:

[user104658]

The latest data on mask wearing efficiency

Where's that?

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Where's that?

Yes, where indeed....

[Crimson Dynamo]

Banner at Ibrox last night:

https://www.thenational.scot/resources/images/13401513.png?display=1&htype=0&type=responsive-gallery

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

46.219 new cases

1.083 total hospitalisations, 124 new patients

287 total on ICU's/ventilators, no data known on how many new ICU patients due to technical malfunction

11 new deaths

[arista]

Saturday 22/1/22


297 have Died
76,807 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital : Not Updated, Fridays numbers (17,976)

Patients in ventilation beds: Not Updated, Fridays numbers (664)

153,787 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

We will have less cases then the Netherlands soon :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

We will have less cases then the Netherlands soon :hehe:

and they locked down on fake data:hee:

[user104658]

Banner at Ibrox last night:

https://www.thenational.scot/resources/images/13401513.png?display=1&htype=0&type=responsive-gallery

And if there's any group that's an authority on science, it's a bunch of sectarian football yobs who left school at 16.

[glib]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/rcs_rayner05JPG-JS706803748-1.jpg?strip=all&w=710

The Sun managed to make an entire article on this picture of Angela Rayner

Commenting on the man, her lover’s, untied shoelaces, suggesting they had ‘been in a hurry’. :fan:

Although I’d have made an entire article on why she chose leopard print boots with a long blue dress

I can’t tell whether she’s wearing skin coloured leggings either ?

[bots]

New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has cancelled her wedding after announcing new Covid restrictions.

The entire country is set to be placed under the highest level of Covid restrictions after an outbreak of the Omicron variant.

The restrictions include a cap of 100 vaccinated people at events and mask wearing in shops and on public transport.

New Zealand has recorded 15,104 Covid cases and 52 deaths.

Ms Ardern confirmed to reporters on Sunday that her wedding to television host Clarke Gayford would not be going ahead.

"I am no different to, dare I say it, thousands of other New Zealanders who have had much more devastating impacts felt by the pandemic, the most gutting of which is the inability to be with a loved one sometimes when they are gravely ill," she said.

"That will far, far outstrip any sadness I experience," she added.
The new restrictions come into force at midnight on Sunday local time (11:00 GMT).

It comes after a cluster of nine Omicron cases were confirmed.

A family who had attended a wedding in Auckland tested positive after returning home to the South Island. A flight attendant also contracted the virus. Officials say the level of community transmission from the group is expected to be high.

Indoor hospitality venues and events will have their capacity capped to 100 vaccinated people or 25 if vaccine passes are not being used. This also includes gyms and weddings, the New Zealand Herald reports.

Students including year four and above will be required to wear masks in school.

New Zealand has operated under strict Covid rules since the start of the pandemic, allowing it to keep deaths to a minimum. It was one of the first countries in the world to close its borders and quashed earlier outbreaks with lockdowns.

But since the emergence of the Delta variant, Ms Ardern has switched from a total Covid elimination strategy to pushing for higher vaccination rates and treating the virus as endemic.

It's thought that about 94% of the country's population over the age of 12 is fully vaccinated and 56% of those have had their boosters.

Last year, the country announced plans to reopen borders as part of a staged reopening. Foreign travellers will be the last group to be granted entry into the country, from 30 April.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60100369

[Crimson Dynamo]

And if there's any group that's an authority on science, it's a bunch of sectarian football yobs who left school at 16.

such a snobbish attitude

:umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

New Zealand's Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has cancelled her wedding after announcing new Covid restrictions.

The entire country is set to be placed under the highest level of Covid restrictions after an outbreak of the Omicron variant.

The restrictions include a cap of 100 vaccinated people at events and mask wearing in shops and on public transport.

New Zealand has recorded 15,104 Covid cases and 52 deaths.

Ms Ardern confirmed to reporters on Sunday that her wedding to television host Clarke Gayford would not be going ahead.

"I am no different to, dare I say it, thousands of other New Zealanders who have had much more devastating impacts felt by the pandemic, the most gutting of which is the inability to be with a loved one sometimes when they are gravely ill," she said.

"That will far, far outstrip any sadness I experience," she added.
The new restrictions come into force at midnight on Sunday local time (11:00 GMT).

It comes after a cluster of nine Omicron cases were confirmed.

A family who had attended a wedding in Auckland tested positive after returning home to the South Island. A flight attendant also contracted the virus. Officials say the level of community transmission from the group is expected to be high.

Indoor hospitality venues and events will have their capacity capped to 100 vaccinated people or 25 if vaccine passes are not being used. This also includes gyms and weddings, the New Zealand Herald reports.

Students including year four and above will be required to wear masks in school.

New Zealand has operated under strict Covid rules since the start of the pandemic, allowing it to keep deaths to a minimum. It was one of the first countries in the world to close its borders and quashed earlier outbreaks with lockdowns.

But since the emergence of the Delta variant, Ms Ardern has switched from a total Covid elimination strategy to pushing for higher vaccination rates and treating the virus as endemic.

It's thought that about 94% of the country's population over the age of 12 is fully vaccinated and 56% of those have had their boosters.

Last year, the country announced plans to reopen borders as part of a staged reopening. Foreign travellers will be the last group to be granted entry into the country, from 30 April.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-60100369

she was hailed at the start of the pandemic now she just looks like a total clown

[Nicky91]

We will have less cases then the Netherlands soon :hehe:

and they locked down on fake data:hee:

and now no longer any measures, so we will keep rising in daily new cases, towards 100k daily new cases

[user104658]

such a snobbish attitude



:umm2:If it's "snobbish" to say that a football crowd holding daft banners is highly unlikely to have any understanding of the science at all, then sure I'll accept being called snobbish. Because whilst accepting their scientific views may be less snobbish, less offensive, more "woke", it's also plainly ****ing stupid.

[bots]

the trouble that NZ and China have is that if they lock down the moment they get an infection they will just go into an infinite cycle of lockdowns. I cant see that doing the economies or mental health any favours for the foreseeable future.

We dont know what will happen with variants in the future, but governments have the tools now to be a lot smarter than just locking everything down

[user104658]

the trouble that NZ and China have is that if they lock down the moment they get an infection they will just go into an infinite cycle of lockdowns. I cant see that doing the economies or mental health any favours for the foreseeable future.



We dont know what will happen with variants in the future, but governments have the tools now to be a lot smarter than just locking everything downNZ yes, China is so huge that (assuming they genuinely can contain it) they could feasibly lock down large areas/regions at a time in an endless cycle without ever locking down the whole country.

Of course with Omicron their chances of actually containing it are quite slim.

[Alf]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/rcs_rayner05JPG-JS706803748-1.jpg?strip=all&w=710

The Sun managed to make an entire article on this picture of Angela Rayner

Commenting on the man, her lover’s, untied shoelaces, suggesting they had ‘been in a hurry’. :fan:

Although I’d have made an entire article on why she chose leopard print boots with a long blue dress

I can’t tell whether she’s wearing skin coloured leggings either ?Not leggings, they're her pale, milk bottle legs.

Looking like a dirty stop out who has been at it like a rabbit.

[arista]

Sunday 23/1/22

75 have Died
74,799 have caught Covid-19



Patients in hospital : Not Updated, Fridays numbers (17,976)
Patients in ventilation beds : Not Updated, Fridays numbers (664)


153,862 Total UK Deaths of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Alf]

What the Belgian public think of restrictions put on them.


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[Alf]

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[Alf]

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[arista]

Yes Alf they hate the Anti Vaxxers
in Belgium.

[arista]

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The Best way to stop these Punk Anti Vaxxers

[Alf]

"I don't want no scrubs"


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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2022/01/ministers-meet-to-discuss-relaxing-coronavirus-rules-amid-soaring-cases/

Netherlands: Ministers and health experts are meeting at the prime minister’s official residence on Monday morning to decide what the next steps in dealing with the pandemic should be, ahead of Tuesday’s press conference.

On Saturday the NRC said the government’s coronavirus advisory group, the Outbreak Management Team, is recommending opening cafes, bars, restaurants and the cultural sector again, albeit with limited opening hours.

While the OMT suggests closing cafes and theatres at 8pm, cabinet sources told broadcaster NOS that ministers are looking at allowing the cultural sector to open longer, because of the difficulties of staging shows with an early closing time.

The further relaxation of the rules, if confirmed, would come at a time when the number of new infections is soaring and the regional health boards are struggling to cope with processing the numbers.

On Sunday, 65,393 new infections were reported to the public health institute RIVM in the 24 hours to 10am, but thousands of other cases have not been processed.

The backlog of cases, the RIVM said, had gone up to 48,000 over six days.

Protests

Both the hospitality industry and the cultural sector staged protests about being closed last week, and a number of local mayors have called on the government to ‘fundamentally rethink’ its coronavirus strategy.

Junior culture minister Gunay Uslu said before the Friday cabinet meeting that cultural institutions should open as quickly as possible. ‘They have been closed for too long and that has to change,’ she said.

In parliament on Thursday, prime minister Mark Rutte said the government ‘is hoping for a relaxation in the rules but can’t give any guarantees’ until it has data on the effects of opening shops, contact professions and gyms on Saturday 15 January.

[bots]

they are removing testing requirement for double jabbed incoming passengers here

[Cherie]

they are removing testing requirement for double jabbed incoming passengers here

good news it was a total farce and money spinner at any rate

[arista]

From 4AM on the 11th Feb
Fully-Vaccinated people travelling
into the UK will No Long have to take a Post-Travel
Covid Test.

Transport Secretary - Parliament

[arista]

24/1/21

56 have Died
88,447 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
17,523

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
640


153,916 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Monday 17/1/21

85 have Died.
84,429 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
19,345


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
746


152,075 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

24/1/21

56 have Died
88,447 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
17,523

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
640


153,916 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[Alf]

Was Omicron the cure for Covid?

[Alf]

Dr Shillary


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[Zizu]

Was Omicron the cure for Covid?


It hasn’t helped me much .. I’m still poorly after day 7


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Dr Shillary


l06D1-IAAsU

time that charlatan was exposed: https://www.ofcom.org.uk/news-centre/2022/decision-complaints-hilary-jones-itv-lorraine

[AnnieK]

It hasn’t helped me much .. I’m still poorly after day 7


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Sorry to hear that Zizu. I have only had a bit of a head cold that I would normally have not bothered about. I tested due to my son having it but can't say I've been poorly.

Hope you feel better soon

[Zizu]

Sorry to hear that Zizu. I have only had a bit of a head cold that I would normally have not bothered about. I tested due to my son having it but can't say I've been poorly.

Hope you feel better soon


Amongst everything else I’m completely exhausted even though I’m just sleeping or resting, still having hot / cold sweats and yesterday I lost my sense of smell ..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

It hasn’t helped me much .. I’m still poorly after day 7


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could be due to other factors tbh..

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/25/events-cultural-sectors-disappointed-expected-lockdown-relaxations

Netherlands: Events organizer ID&T is "deeply disappointed" about the leaked lockdown relaxations after "repeated calls to the Cabinet to come up with a fully-fledged and realistic plan," director Ritty van Straalen said. "With only one-third capacity, it is not a reopening. Staying closed for any longer, with no clear perspective, feels like a deep insult to our entire industry."

According to insiders, the Cabinet will allow a maximum of 1,250 attendees for indoor events with mandatory seating. Outside, events can fill the capacity to a maximum of one-third. The relaxations will be announced during a press conference on Tuesday evening.


"Despite the fact that these 'relaxations' make it seem like the event sector can open again, this is not the case," said Van Straalen. "The situation is untenable and, combined with the lack of perspective, has a very demotivating effect on our entire sector."

Van Straalen said that the company would continue to call on the Cabinet "to come up with a fully-fledged and realistic plan" for the industry. "Without social distancing and without capacity restrictions, to save the once-thriving event industry, and so that we can get out of this crisis together."

The cultural sector is also not happy with the leaked relaxations. A closing time of 10:00 p.m. "is impossible or very difficult to work with for many theaters and companies." So said Sanne Wallis de Vries, comedian and co-initiator of the protest action Hair Salon Theater.

"I find it incomprehensible that no exception is made for the theater sector," said Wallis de Vries. "If we can stay open until 11:00 p.m., then it makes all the difference to the sector and nothing to the virus and policymakers."

Opening is also not profitable if visitors have to keep 1.5 meters apart, she said. "In short: if the conditions are closing at 10:00 p.m and social distancing, that means many theaters will remain closed. And many players will not play. So it's a sham. And nobody understands why."

The other initiator of Hair Salon Theater, Diederik Ebbinge, agrees with Wallis de Vries, he said on Twitter. "We are very curious why the extra hour is not allowed for those who can play. That helps enormously. Bruls' argument of 'at the same time as the catering industry, that's easier to enforce' does not count," he said.

With Hair Salon Theater, several theaters in the Netherlands were converted into hair salons, massage studious, or beauty salons last Wednesday. Visitors could get a haircut or a facial while watching a performance. The theaters wanted to show that they could open as safely as contact professions, which the Cabinet reopened in the previous set of relaxations.

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https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/25/mayors-urge-closing-time-everyone-covid-press-conferences-approaches

Prime Minister Mark Rutte and coronavirus Minister Ernst Kuipers will announce the relaxation of some coronavirus measures in a press conference on Tuesday evening. The cultural sector can reopen under certain conditions, as can restaurants and bars. Events will be possible again under strict conditions. The mayors on the Security Council urged the Cabinet to set the same closing time for all sectors. "Use one time. That makes communication clear and easier," said chairman Hubert Bruls, mayor of Nijmegen.

The Cabinet will make the final decision on relaxing measures on Tuesday, but Rutte already said last week that he was optimistic about the room to loosen restrictions.


For the first time, the Cabinet also published the advice of the Outbreak Management Team (OMT). The OMT only wanted businesses to remain open until 8:00 p.m., but it looks like the Cabinet opted for a closing time of 10:00 p.m. The OMT also advised allowing spectators at sports matches.

The mayors in the Security Council advised the government to stick to one closing time. Because one time is easiest to enforce, the mayors concluded. Bruls did not say what closing time the mayors would suggest. The longer you stay open, the greater the chance of infection, he said after the Security Council meeting with Justice Minister Dilan Yeşilgöz in Utrecht on Monday evening. "We have to accept that more people are going to get sick."

That is also happening in neighboring countries where most restrictions have been scrapped. There is also greater pressure on the healthcare sector. Nevertheless, according to Minister Yeşilgöz, the Netherlands cannot be compared one-on-one with other countries because other regulations like the 2G coronavirus access policy apply there. That is why the 25 security regions recommend coordinating the policy with the surrounding countries. "It is good to align the measures with neighboring countries," said Bruls.

The OMT also said that children up to the age of 12 no longer have to quarantine if they don't have Covid-19 symptoms. They are advised to do a daily self-test if they had contact with someone who had the virus. If that is not possible, the GGD or doctor may still recommend quarantine.

The rules around quarantine are in the spotlight because the number of Covid-19 infections is rising so rapidly. If too many people have to stay at home due to an infection or close contact with someone infected, sectors risk getting into trouble. Employers' organizations VNO-NCW and MKB-Nederland asked the Cabinet to relax the rules for workers, warning that "half of the Netherlands will soon be sitting don't he couch without complaints."

The high number of infections is also causing problems in the test line. The GGDs have reached the limit of their testing capacity, the umbrella organization said on Monday.

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/25/validity-covid-vaccination-recovery-certificates-shortened-match-eu-countries

Netherlands: From February 1, Covid-19 vaccination certificates in the Netherlands will be valid for 270 days from the date of vaccination. Recovery certificates will be valid for 180 days. This is equal to other European countries.

That means that if you want to get a coronavirus access pass in the Netherlands, you must show that you were vaccinated or got a booster shot less than nine months ago, recovered from the coronavirus less than six months ago, or tested negative for the coronavirus in the past 24 hours.

The coronavirus access pass is usually in the form of a QR code on the CoronaCheck app. The expectation is that these access passes will be widely used again once the Cabinet reopens the catering, cultural, and events industry. Prime Minister Mark Rutte and Health Minister Ernst Kuipers will give a press conference tonight.

Former Health Minister Hugo de Jonge announced in December that the validity of the vaccination certificate would be limited as per the EU standard. "The protection decreased the longer the full vaccination has been completed," he said at the time.

All paper certificates for Covid-19 vaccinations and recovery will expire on April 1, according to RTL Nieuws

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Cherie]

Have we heard from Zizu :worry:

[AnnieK]

Have we heard from Zizu :worry:

He was posting yesterday. He was still quite poorly Monday....hopefully over the worst :fc:

[Vanessa]

He'll be ok. He was posting yesterday

[Zizu]

He'll be ok. He was posting yesterday


Hi
After 6 days in bed I’ve had a couple of better days .. still sleeping an awful lot then spending the rest of the day shattered on the couch though .. still having intermittent hot / cold sweats as well .

I can’t concentrate on anything for long at all - just too tiring - sounds weird I know .

I lost my sense of smell an day 6 , not returned as yet .


I’ve pencilled in a to return to work next Monday but I’ve got to make a lot of progress over the next days - a can’t risk going back then having a relapse .

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[bots]

keep getting lots of rest zizu. There is no timetable that everyone follows. My brother was still getting tired easily after a couple of weeks so, go with the flow.

Have you done another lateral flow test yet, is that negative or still positive?

[AnnieK]

I got off lightly with it, had worse colds before and tested negative on day 5 so back in work and son back in school. Take care Zizu - lots of rest and fluids

[Zizu]

keep getting lots of rest zizu. There is no timetable that everyone follows. My brother was still getting tired easily after a couple of weeks so, go with the flow.

Have you done another lateral flow test yet, is that negative or still positive?


I did a postal PCR test which came back as positive ( Sunday ) . I’ll test myself on Sat / Sun if it looks like I’ll be going back in work on Monday

Seems like a waste of LF tests , otherwise tbh


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[user104658]

Hi
After 6 days in bed I’ve had a couple of better days .. still sleeping an awful lot then spending the rest of the day shattered on the couch though .. still having intermittent hot / cold sweats as well .

I can’t concentrate on anything for long at all - just too tiring - sounds weird I know .

I lost my sense of smell an day 6 , not returned as yet .


I’ve pencilled in a to return to work next Monday but I’ve got to make a lot of progress over the next days - a can’t risk going back then having a relapse .

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Are you testing negative? It'd be slightly odd if you still have active Covid so you may well have some sort of post-viral syndrome going on. Worth getting out for a PCR and then seeing your doctor if it comes back negative. If it's positive you're just still fighting the virus so it's normal immune response taking a bit longer than usual. Get a PCR though as a LF negative is far from conclusive.

The fatigue and temperature spikes could easily be postviral (immune system doing weird stuff even though there's no live Covid in your system any more).

A few years back I had some weird virus and then in the aftermath, after being fine all through the day every day, I was getting a temp spike (big one, like 39.5 degrees+) every single night at around 1am - 4am. My skin was actually boiling hot to the touch and I couldn't sleep through it. It went on for well over a month, ****ing horrible.

A friend of mine at Uni also got increased fatigue after glandular fever that lasted nearly 8 months :umm2:.

As for the sense of smell/taste thing, unfortunately I've known a few people who got that with Covid and it didn't fully return for about 3 or 4 months ... so you might just have a bit of a wait with that.

[arista]

[Unvaccinated NHS worker who was hesitant
about jab dies from Covid-19 just days after changing mind]

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/unvaccinated-nhs-worker-who-hesitant-26049518

[Zizu]

Are you testing negative? It'd be slightly odd if you still have active Covid so you may well have some sort of post-viral syndrome going on. Worth getting out for a PCR and then seeing your doctor if it comes back negative. If it's positive you're just still fighting the virus so it's normal immune response taking a bit longer than usual. Get a PCR though as a LF negative is far from conclusive.

The fatigue and temperature spikes could easily be postviral (immune system doing weird stuff even though there's no live Covid in your system any more).

A few years back I had some weird virus and then in the aftermath, after being fine all through the day every day, I was getting a temp spike (big one, like 39.5 degrees+) every single night at around 1am - 4am. My skin was actually boiling hot to the touch and I couldn't sleep through it. It went on for well over a month, ****ing horrible.

A friend of mine at Uni also got increased fatigue after glandular fever that lasted nearly 8 months :umm2:.

As for the sense of smell/taste thing, unfortunately I've known a few people who got that with Covid and it didn't fully return for about 3 or 4 months ... so you might just have a bit of a wait with that.

My intrigue got the better of me after reading this post .. and I did a LF test ...

I just tested negative so that’s hopeful .

I think it follows that it is just the immune system .. the sweats have been getting less frequent each day and nothing so far today .


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[bots]

My intrigue got the better of me after reading this post .. and I did a LF test ...

I just tested negative so that’s hopeful .

I think it follows that it is just the immune system .. the sweats have been getting less frequent each day and nothing so far today .


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if you tested negative and test negative again tomorrow, you are on the mend. That's the most important thing. You may need to slow down because you get tired easily for a while, but you will be over the worst of it

[Zizu]

if you tested negative and test negative again tomorrow, you are on the mend. That's the most important thing. You may need to slow down because you get tired easily for a while, but you will be over the worst of it

Ooops ..

On closer inspection a very , very faint line is still there .. still looks hopeful and I am feeling brighter this morning - just get very breathless after any moving around . I guess that’s to be expected though

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[Cherie]

How is your wife Zizu?

[AnnieK]

Ooops ..

On closer inspection a very , very faint line is still there .. still looks hopeful and I am feeling brighter this morning - just get very breathless after any moving around . I guess that’s to be expected though

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I had a very faint line on Day 4 Zizu and was then negative day 5 and 6. You're at the end now and hopefully will regain your strength daily

[Vanessa]

Hi
After 6 days in bed I’ve had a couple of better days .. still sleeping an awful lot then spending the rest of the day shattered on the couch though .. still having intermittent hot / cold sweats as well .

I can’t concentrate on anything for long at all - just too tiring - sounds weird I know .

I lost my sense of smell an day 6 , not returned as yet .


I’ve pencilled in a to return to work next Monday but I’ve got to make a lot of progress over the next days - a can’t risk going back then having a relapse .

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Take your time, don't go back too soon.
I made that mistake and went back to work when I wasn't ready. It was hell

[Vanessa]

Are you testing negative? It'd be slightly odd if you still have active Covid so you may well have some sort of post-viral syndrome going on. Worth getting out for a PCR and then seeing your doctor if it comes back negative. If it's positive you're just still fighting the virus so it's normal immune response taking a bit longer than usual. Get a PCR though as a LF negative is far from conclusive.

The fatigue and temperature spikes could easily be postviral (immune system doing weird stuff even though there's no live Covid in your system any more).

A few years back I had some weird virus and then in the aftermath, after being fine all through the day every day, I was getting a temp spike (big one, like 39.5 degrees+) every single night at around 1am - 4am. My skin was actually boiling hot to the touch and I couldn't sleep through it. It went on for well over a month, ****ing horrible.

A friend of mine at Uni also got increased fatigue after glandular fever that lasted nearly 8 months :umm2:.

As for the sense of smell/taste thing, unfortunately I've known a few people who got that with Covid and it didn't fully return for about 3 or 4 months ... so you might just have a bit of a wait with that.
I've had something like that a while back. Horrible

[Zizu]

Take your time, don't go back too soon.
I made that mistake and went back to work when I wasn't ready. It was hell


Thank you ..


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[Zizu]

I had a very faint line on Day 4 Zizu and was then negative day 5 and 6. You're at the end now and hopefully will regain your strength daily


My wife had a very mild dose thankfully -she did test everyday-she had 7 positives then two negatives on day 8 and 9 .

This is my day nine so it does seem to be about right given I’ve had a much harder time of things


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[Zizu]

How is your wife Zizu?


Fine ... back at work and no ill effects at all


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Jeremy Vine an example of left wing media types now back-peddling re the pandemic

"Oh i was always against lockdowns and restrictions and fearmongering"

expect many more to follow

zyVLKTts56Q

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/26/restaurants-museums-reopen-lockdown-measures-relax

Netherlands: Restaurants, museums reopen as lockdown measures relax
Today everything in the Netherlands is allowed to open again, under certain conditions. Restaurants and bars are permitted to receive guests again, as can theaters, museums, casinos, zoos, and amusement parks. Prime Minister Mark Rutte and Health Minister Ernst Kuipers announced the relaxation of the coronavirus restrictions in a press conference on Tuesday.

Opening times of 5:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. apply for all non-essential businesses. Coronavirus access passes are mandatory for everyone aged 13 and older in the catering industry, theaters and concert halls, museums, indoor sports locations, cinemas, zoos, amusement parks, saunas, and casinos. People must also wear a face mask on public transport and in public indoor spaces like shops and museums. For cinemas, restaurants, and theaters, visitors can remove their masks once seated.


The announcement that movie cinemas would reopen again sparked a run on tickets on Tuesday evening. In some cases, people were in a digital queue for over 40 minutes, with thousands of people trying to buy a movie ticket. The major cinema chains' sites were easily accessible again on Wednesday morning. People could buy tickets at large operators like Pathe and Vue without waiting in a digital queue.

People especially scrambled to buy tickets for big blockbusters like Spider-Man: No Way Home and The Matix Resurrections. The umbrella organization for cinemas said that it was happy that the public was finding their way back to the theaters again after the lockdown.

World of Dinos - the largest traveling dinosaur expo in Europe - will open again in De Kromhouthal in Amsterdam due to the relaxed coronavirus measures. The expo will be open from February 5 to 27. "There was an immediate rush for tickets after last night's press conference. Reservations are made en masse. The public is clearly looking forward to it again," said spokesperson Mike Leegwater.

For schools, only pupils who have symptoms or have tested positive for Covid-19 have to stay home. The rest of the class can go to school. Pupils are advised to do a Covid-19 test at home twice a week.

Kuipers also relaxed the quarantine rules for essential workers, he said in a letter to parliament. Essential workers, like waste collectors and healthcare workers, don't have to quarantine after contact with an infected person if they don't have symptoms and if their employer approved them coming into work.

The Cabinet assumes that the relaxations will lead to a spike in the number of coronavirus infections. Rutte and Kuipers, therefore, stressed that people should keep adhering to the basic rules - maintain social distancing, wash their hands regularly, keep rooms well ventilated, and get tested if they have symptoms.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

58.666 new cases (although due to technical malfunction over 78.000 positive covid tests from the last 9 days need to be added up to the system)

1.154 total hospitalisations

249 total on ICU's/ventilators, 15 new patients on ICU's

133 new patients on nursing wards

[Cherie]

Fine ... back at work and no ill effects at all


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Good to hear, you seem to have been unlucky but on the mend now

[Cherie]

Jeremy Vine an example of left wing media types now back-peddling re the pandemic

"Oh i was always against lockdowns and restrictions and fearmongering"

expect many more to follow

zyVLKTts56Q

Christmas is cancellllllllllled

[Zizu]

Good to hear, you seem to have been unlucky but on the mend now


Thank you !


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[arista]

Wednesday 26/1/22

364 have Died
102,292 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
16,594

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
575


154,702 Total UK Deaths of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

Wednesday 19/1/21

359 have Died
108,069 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
18,979

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
703



152,872 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


For comparison

Although we’ve stopped doing PCRs so I don’t know how that affects the figures


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[bots]

the numbers on vent are dropping consistently, thats great news

[Cherie]

For comparison

Although we’ve stopped doing PCRs so I don’t know how that affects the figures


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We stopped doing PCRs at least 2 weeks ago so the figures will be comparable

[Zizu]

We stopped doing PCRs at least 2 weeks ago so the figures will be comparable


Yes but how do we compare with before the PCR cut off point ?


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[Cherie]

Yes but how do we compare with before the PCR cut off point ?


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You can’t but it’s hospital numbers that matter not infections :shrug:

[Zizu]

You can’t but it’s hospital numbers that matter not infections :shrug:


True


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[arista]

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[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/27/cabinet-discussing-covid-testing-everyone-vaccinated-enter-nightclubs

Netherlands: Cabinet discussing Covid testing everyone, vaccinated or not, to enter nightclubs
The Cabinet will talk with the nightlife industry to see whether they could be opened with the 1G coronavirus access policy, Minister Ernst Kuipers of Public Health promised during a parliamentary debate on the coronavirus. PvdA MP Attje Kuiken asked whether the sector might reopen if all visitors, vaccinated or not, are tested for Covid-19 before entering. Though she added that this solution is "not ideal."

Currently, people who visit a catering establishment have to show a coronavirus access pass based on the 3G system. They must show they have been vaccinated against, recovered from, or tested negative for Covid-19. Parliament also discusses the 2G policy, which only allows access to vaccinated or recovered people. In 1G, everyone must test negative.

Earlier in the coronavirus debate, parliamentarians also discussed the possibility of testing people in many more places to reopen society further. The Cabinet believes that extensive use of coronavirus tests is not possible because there is insufficient testing capacity for this in a "period when things are already going wrong in all kinds of places," said Kuipers. But he promised to talk with the nightlife sector after Kuiken pointed out that the sector has been unable to operate for two years.

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/27/travelers-covid-boosters-can-soon-skip-dutch-quarantine-may-need-extra-jab-visit-germany

Netherlands: Travelers with Covid boosters can soon skip Dutch quarantine; Some may need extra jab to visit Germany
Travelers from very high-risk areas who have had a booster shot will no longer have to quarantine upon arrival in the Netherlands from next week Wednesday, the Cabinet informed parliament. Netherlands residents who got the Jannsen vaccine against Covid-19 may have to get an extra booster shot if they want to go to Germany, Health Minister Ernst Kuipers said.

Travelers from very high-risk countries currently have to quarantine for 10 days after arriving in the Netherlands. Almost two weeks ago, the Cabinet announced that people in the Netherlands who had a booster shot at least a week ago no longer have to quarantine after contact with an infected person, provided they have no symptoms. The same rules will apply to travelers from very high-risk countries from February 2.

Over 30 countries are territories are considered very high-risk due to the coronavirus situation there. These include the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, Israel, and countries in southern Africa.

Minister Kuipers will ask the Health Council whether people who received the Janssen vaccine can get an extra booster so that they are welcome in Germany. The Janssen vaccine requires only one dose to be fully vaccinated. But in Germany, one Janssen shot and a booster is not enough for a coronavirus access pass. Germany requires a third vaccination for this.

Kuipers called it a shame that Germany made a different assessment than the rest of the EU member states on this matter. "Unfortunately, we can't change that."

CDA parliamentarian Joba van den Berg expected there had already been "high-level" consultations between Germany and the Netherlands. She hopes that the extra booster shot will offer a solution "if it can be done responsibly," because a solution is badly needed. Five Dutch provinces border the country. "We are so dependent on Germany."

Prime Minister Mark Rutte, who got the Janssen vaccine, seemed to only realize during the coronavirus debate that he can no longer go to Germany. "But we're going to talk about that," he told Kuipers.

[arista]

[Travelers with Covid boosters can soon skip Dutch quarantine]

Good Move by your Leader
Nicky.

[bots]

A man has been jailed for eight weeks after he accosted Prof Sir Chris Whitty in a central London park.

Jonathan Chew, 24, and Lewis Hughes, 24, approached England's chief medical officer in St James's Park in June 2021.

Appearing at Westminster Magistrates' Court, Chew, from Chelmsford, Essex, pleaded guilty to a charge of intending to cause harassment, alarm or distress.

Hughes was previously sentenced for assault by beating.

In addition to the jail sentence, Chew, who also admitted obstructing a police officer, was ordered to pay £1,058 in costs and compensation.

Prosecution barrister Iestyn Morgan told the court Chew started filming Sir Chris on his phone while Hughes grabbed him in a headlock.

The footage, lasting about 20 seconds, was widely shared on social media and showed the pair jeering as Sir Chris attempted to break free.

England's chief medical officer was uninjured in the attack which happened on 27 June 2021.

[Zizu]

A man has been jailed for eight weeks after he accosted Prof Sir Chris Whitty in a central London park.

Jonathan Chew, 24, and Lewis Hughes, 24, approached England's chief medical officer in St James's Park in June 2021.

Appearing at Westminster Magistrates' Court, Chew, from Chelmsford, Essex, pleaded guilty to a charge of intending to cause harassment, alarm or distress.

Hughes was previously sentenced for assault by beating.

In addition to the jail sentence, Chew, who also admitted obstructing a police officer, was ordered to pay £1,058 in costs and compensation.

Prosecution barrister Iestyn Morgan told the court Chew started filming Sir Chris on his phone while Hughes grabbed him in a headlock.

The footage, lasting about 20 seconds, was widely shared on social media and showed the pair jeering as Sir Chris attempted to break free.

England's chief medical officer was uninjured in the attack which happened on 27 June 2021.


Eight weeks isn’t long enough by any means ... the guy assaulted and scared the prof and also wrestled with a policeman!


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Eight weeks isn’t long enough by any means ... the guy assaulted and scared the prof and also wrestled with a policeman!


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and he scared a nation with inaccurate data forecasts time and time again

when is he going to jail?

[Zizu]

and he scared a nation with inaccurate data forecasts time and time again

when is he going to jail?


It wasn’t his data to be fair .. his team just analysed it


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[Crimson Dynamo]

It wasn’t his data to be fair .. his team just analysed it


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The buck stopped with him

[Nicky91]

https://www.euronews.com/next/2022/01/27/new-covid-pill-ema-gives-pfizer-s-antiviral-drug-paxlovid-the-green-light-to-be-used-in-th

EMA approves Pfizer/BioNTech anti-covid pill to be used in the EU

The European Medicines Agency (EMA) said on Thursday it had approved Pfizer's anti-COVID-19 pill Paxlovid, becoming the first orally administered antiviral drug authorised for use in the European Union.

"The EMA's Committee for Medicinal Products for Human Use (CHMP) has recommended the granting of a conditional marketing authorisation for the oral antiviral drug Paxlovid," the EU regulator said in a statement.

The EMA recommended "authorising Paxlovid for the treatment of COVID-19 in adults who do not require supplementary oxygen and who are at increased risk of the disease becoming severe".

Antivirals work by reducing the ability of a virus to replicate itself, thereby curbing the disease.

They are eagerly awaited because they are easy to administer, and can simply be taken at home with a glass of water.

Pfizer said in December that Paxlovid reduced hospital admissions and deaths in at-risk people by up to 90 per cent when taken in the first few days after symptoms appear.

Reduced hospitalisations and COVID deaths
The EMA assessed data from a study involving COVID-19 patients showing that "treatment with Paxlovid significantly reduced hospitalisations or deaths in patients who had at least one underlying condition putting them at risk of severe COVID-19".

The majority of patients in the study were infected with the Delta variant, the EMA said, while noting that laboratory tests indicate that Paxlovid should remain effective against Omicron.

The Pfizer pill is a combination of a new molecule, PF-07321332, and the HIV antiviral Ritonavir, which are taken as separate tablets.

"The EMA's Committee for Medicinal Products for Human Use has concluded that the benefits of the medicine outweigh its risks for the approved use," and will now "send its recommendations to the European Commission for a rapid decision applicable in all EU Member States," the regulator said.

The approval process by the Commission usually takes a few hours or days.

"With the approval of Paxlovid this week, six anti-COVID drugs have been authorised as part of the EU's therapeutic strategy," European Commissioner for Health and Food Safety Stella Kyriakides said in a statement.

The US, Canada, and Israel are among a handful of countries that have already given the new Pfizer treatment the green light.

[arista]

Thursday 27/1/22

338 have Died
96,871 have caught Covid -19


Patients in hospital
Latest available
16,510

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
561

155,040 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKH7IhpXoAEEsoH?format=jpg&name=medium

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes it was good to go to the football last night and not bother about a mask

[arista]

Scotland

[Despite the worst of the Omicron wave seemingly behind us,
the SNP are planning to enshrine
temporary Covid powers in law – giving the Scottish
government the ability to reintroduce restrictions
without the need for parliamentary
approval at any point.
The only caveat being the measures would
have to be “proportionate”, whatever that means…]

https://order-order.com/2022/01/27/snp-planning-to-make-emergency-covid-powers-permanent/


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[Crimson Dynamo]

she is toast next elections. many will never vote for her again including myself

vile

[arista]

she is toast next elections. many will never vote for her again including myself

vile


Good Point

[Crimson Dynamo]

and that oaf in wales too

[arista]

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[Cherie]

Scotland

[Despite the worst of the Omicron wave seemingly behind us,
the SNP are planning to enshrine
temporary Covid powers in law – giving the Scottish
government the ability to reintroduce restrictions
without the need for parliamentary
approval at any point.
The only caveat being the measures would
have to be “proportionate”, whatever that means…]

https://order-order.com/2022/01/27/snp-planning-to-make-emergency-covid-powers-permanent/


1486781065368850435

Proportionate? , locking down hospitality at the busiest time of year when the data from SA was giving positive news is definately not proportionate

[bots]

the next elections are going to be interesting across the board.

I might put a sneaky fiver on the lib dems winning the next election :laugh:

[Zizu]

the next elections are going to be interesting across the board.

I might put a sneaky fiver on the lib dems winning the next election :laugh:


What would happen if the majority simply didn’t bother voting for ANYONE !?

Could we somehow get rid of politicians forever ?


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[arista]

902,196 Covid-19 USA Death Total

LBC reports Biden does not want to Discuss it.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

74.085 new cases

1.141 total hospitalisations

238 total on ICU's/ventilators

143 new patients on nursing wards

[arista]

28/1/22 Friday

277 have Died
89,176 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
16,149

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
549


155,317 Total UK Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/28/municipalities-give-low-income-households-free-face-masks-covid-self-tests

Netherlands: Municipalities to give low income households free face masks, Covid self-tests
Municipalities will receive Covid-19 self-tests and face masks from the government next month to hand out to people with low incomes. About six tests and six masks will be available per person until May 1, the Ministry of Public Health, Welfare and, Sports reported. Thirty municipalities with a low vaccination rate and a high number of infections will receive extra masks and tests.

The Ministry will provide 10 million face masks and 10 million self-tests for people with a low income until May 1. The municipalities with many infections and low vaccination coverage will get 5.5 million of each during that period. These can be used for a "neighborhood-oriented approach," aimed at neighborhoods where the situation is deemed most worrying. This includes neighborhoods in cities like Amsterdam, Rotterdam, and The Hague, but it mainly concerns less urban municipalities outside the Randstad, including Urk, Tholen, and Vaals.


The Outbreak Management Team recommended making self-tests free for everyone. Its most recent advice to the government recommended doing so on "behavioral" grounds. The idea is that this removes a barrier to getting tested for Covid-19 more often. Despite this, Health Minster Ernst Kuipers said on Wednesday that the Cabinet is not prepared to make free face masks and tests available to everyone. "We do not consider this a public facility."

[Crimson Dynamo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Over the last two years, Labour have just tried to exploit the pandemic for their own political gain &amp; carp from the sidelines. They’ve offered nothing, sat on the fence a lot, flip flopped from one side to the next &amp; been on the wrong side of all correct decisions by the Govt.</p>&mdash; Kevin Edger (@KEdge23) <a href="https://twitter.com/KEdge23/status/1487049368645554180?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 28, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/29/outbreak-team-members-experts-call-long-term-plan-tackle-covid

Netherlands: Outbreak Team members and other experts call for long-term plan to tackle Covid
A group of members of the Outbreak Management Team (OMT), scientists and administrators, wrote a joint advice on tackling the Covid-19 pandemic. In the article, the experts pushed for a long-term plan.

"From fighting a pandemic to living in an endemism" was the outcome of a discussion last week between virologist Marion Koopmans, ICU doctor Diederik Gommers and microbiologist Jan Kluytmans. They are all members of the OMT, which provides the government with advice on acute management of the pandemic. However, experts from other fields also took part in the meeting, such as sociology professor Tanja van der Lippe, Breda Mayor Paul Depla and director of the social and cultural planning office Kim Putters.

The experts proposed to set up a scientific transition team to look into a "structural approach" to the pandemic. Unlike in the OMT, ethicists, economists and communication scientists would also participate in the transition team. The experts would create four future scenarios. In the mildest scenario, the coronavirus has become comparable to a cold. In the worst-case scenario, a new and more harmful variant of the virus appears.

According to Koopmans in an online explanation, it will take time before the coronavirus will be part of the common winter viruses, such as the flu virus. "With structural adjustments that the entire society participates in, you can ensure that the virus spreads less before the need is greatest. This prevents the need for additional drastic measures."

[Nicky91]

netherlands todays numbers

backlog of 122.000 new cases, still need to be added up

today:

39.536 confirmed new cases

8 new deaths


nothing known yet on hospitalisation and icu numbers also a technical malfunction there

[Crimson Dynamo]

THE BLOATED BBC LYING AND SMEARING AGAIN TO SUIT THEIR VILE FEARMONGERING AGENDA

EXPOSED

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[glib]

THE BLOATED BBC LYING AND SMEARING AGAIN TO SUIT THEIR VILE FEARMONGERING
[B]

Please delete this now. It is offensive to horizontally challenged people.

[arista]

Saturday 29/2/22

296 have Died
72,727 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital:Not Updated: Fridays numbers :16,149
Patients in ventilation beds:Not Updated: Fridays numbers :549

155,163 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/30/new-covid-record-set-75000-infections-hospital-total-6-week

Netherlands: New Covid record set with over 75,000 infections; Hospital total up 6% in a week
Some 75,199 people tested positive for Covid-19 between Saturday and Sunday morning, the RIVM said. That topped the previous single-day record, set on January 28, by about a thousand. With over half of people tested by the GGD receiving a positive diagnosis, the IT systems of the health services have remained overwhelmed, and a large amount of infections have not been tabulated.

A record-setting 52.2 percent of those tested by the GGD from January 22-28 were infected with the coronavirus, including 58.1 percent tested on Friday. The GGD tested a record high 1.02 million samples during that time, meaning the GGD alone diagnosed about 534 thousand new infections those days. A total of 1.2 million infections were revealed since January 1.

Roughly 131,000 infections diagnosed over the past 13 days have not yet been counted as a result of issues with the computer infrastructure, the RIVM said. That was 9,000 higher than on Saturday. It remains unclear how effective the organizations’ efforts have been. All that is known is that the problem has worsened every day for since the technical issue was first reported.

The seven day moving average increased to set another new record on Sunday. Using only the official raw data, the average reached 61,581. That was a third higher compared to a week earlier. If all of the missing data were added to the latest data, the average would be 80,300, about 75 percent higher than last Sunday.

It also is not clear which regions have been most affected by the missing data, and thus municipal reporting fluctuated greatly the past two weeks. The three cities with the most new infections in Sunday’s data were Utrecht (4,297), Amsterdam (3,078), and The Hague (2,904). Utrecht’s daily total has varied wildly between 500 and 4,300 during the past two weeks.

With hospitalizations linked to Covid-19 firmly on the rise, the Dutch hospital system was treating 1,154 people with the disease on Sunday afternoon. That increased by six percent in a week. A similar increase would put the total back at 1,220.

There were 945 people with the disease in regular care wards, the most since January 14. That figure rose by 29 in a day after accounting for new admissions, discharges and deaths.

At the same time, the number of intensive care patients continued to fall. There were 209 people in ICU beds with the disease, a net decrease of four. It was the lowest total in the acute care wards since October 28, over three months ago.

Hospitals admitted 150 patients with Covid-19 in the past 24 hours, ten of whom were sent directly to intensive care units. That pushed the seven-day moving average up five percent to 155 new patient admissions per day. The figure rose by a third since last Sunday, and was at its highest point since January 4.

The past week, 1,008 Covid-19 patients were admitted into regular care units, up from 756 the week prior. Eighty others were sent to an intensive care unit, up from 68.

[arista]

Sunday 30/1/22

85 have Died
62,399 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital - No Update :Friday numbers
Patients in ventilation beds - No Update : Friday numbers


155,698 Total UK Deaths of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/117A1/production/_123058517_croppedtele31jan.jpg

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/01/31/mayors-meeting-discuss-carnival-covid

Netherlands: Mayors meeting to discuss Carnival during Covid
The Security Council will discuss possible special coronavirus arrangements for the carnival period when meeting in Utrecht on Monday evening. After that, the mayors that head the 25 security regions will talk about a long-term vision for the coronavirus policy. Justice Minister Dilan Yesilgöz and Health Minister Ernst Kuipers will attend the meeting.

The mayors fear that social distancing, group formation on the streets, and closing times in the catering industry will be hard to enforce during the carnival days. Carnival celebrators celebrate arm in arm and in groups on the street. The parades have already been canceled almost everywhere, but carnival will definitely be celebrated in bars, the mayors think. Yesilgöz will discuss the situation with mayors Annemarie Penn-te Strake (Maastricht), Jack Mikkers (Den Bosch), and Hubert Bruls (Nijmegen).

According to the mayors, the Cabinet must make clear as soon as possible what is and is not allowed during the carnival days at the end of February. They also want to draw a line so that carnival celebrators do not flock to the municipality with the most freedom. Penn-te Strake represents Limburg, Mikkers is at the meeting on behalf of Noord-Brabant, and Bruls represents Gelderland-Zuid, the achterhoek, and other places where carnival is celebrated.

After the discussion about carnival, the other 22 mayors on the Security Council and Kuipers will join the meeting. The mayors have been pushing the Cabinet for a long-term vision on the coronavirus measures for some time. They want society to run as normally as possible despite coronavirus infections. They argue that society must learn to live with the coronavirus without being locked down every time. The Security Council favors the wide use of coronavirus access passes.

[Nicky91]

netherlands todays numbers

total hospitalisations increased with93 to 1.247

total on ICU's/ventilators increased with 3 to 212

138 new patients on the nursing wards

[arista]

Monday 31 /1/22

There is a delay to the Data.

[arista]

The Health Secretary
is Live in Parliament. Vaccine Update.
On SkyNewsHD.

[Alf]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/117A1/production/_123058517_croppedtele31jan.jpgWhat a pathetic article about the tennis.

One thing is for absolute certain, Djokovic will go down in history as a greater tennis player than Nadal and Nadal only won this grand slam event because Djokovic was stopped by the Communists from taking part, or else Djokovic would have won it, again.

[Alf]

1488168168996675589

[Zizu]

What a pathetic article about the tennis.

One thing is for absolute certain, Djokovic will go down in history as a greater tennis player than Nadal and Nadal only won this grand slam event because Djokovic was stopped by the Communists from taking part, or else Djokovic would have won it, again.


There’s a bigger story about Djokovic.. probably when he’s retired imho


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[Alf]

1488239169885421576

[Crimson Dynamo]

are the BBC reporting on this?

[Zizu]

1488239169885421576


The news channel has a banner starting .. WTF !!

Says it all ..

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[arista]

Monday 31/1/22

51 Have Died
92,368 Have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
15,938

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
535

155,754 Total UK deaths of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/02/01/carnival-cant-banned-mayors-say-decision-two-weeks

Netherlands: Carnival can't be banned, mayors say; Decision in two weeks
Carnival cannot be banned. Especially because the catering industry is open, said mayor Hubert Bruls of Nijmegen before meeting with Justice Minister Dilan Yesilgöz about it. "Carnival has many faces. People gather at home or on the street, and you don't need a permit for that," he said. The mayors and Minister will meet again in two weeks to decide how carnival will be celebrated. "It is too early to make a decision now," Yesilgöz said after the meeting.

The mayors worry that enforcing the coronavirus rules will be difficult during carnival, especially social distancing. "It is a complicated situation," said Antoin Scholten of Venlo. "In an indoor location full of music, people with a beer in hand do not stay 1.5 meters apart in their place," said Bruls. The mayors are still looking at the possibilities and impossibilities. They at least want to regulate the flow into cafes and bars. "We must try to discourage the large influx," said Bruls, also the head of the Security Council.

Annemarie Penn te Stake of Maastricht said that she would "do her best," but she "cannot live up to the coronavirus measures. "We'll walk around, speak to and give warnings, but I will not send riot police to the Vrijthof if it is full of people." She mainly hopes that the number of infections will have decreased drastically by February 15 so that more will be possible.

We have to be creative," said Jack Mikkers of Den Bosch. His colleague John Jorritsma holds his breath. "I'm afraid this year will be a disappointment for everyone who has a carnival heart.

The mayors and Yesilgöz will meet again in two weeks to discuss what Carnival will look like. "Carnival is here, I understand. Now we have to see how that can be celebrated under the applicable coronavirus measures. One thing is clear: it will not be as they are used to. Unfortunately, people also have to make sacrifices," the Minister said.

The mayors will get together various scenarios in consultation with the carnival associations and local entrepreneurs in the coming weeks. "The burning issue is the 1.5 meters. How should you deal with this?" Bruls wondered aloud. "Will there be an exemption? Will the mayors tolerate it? Or will it become stricter because the infection figures are rising?" Carnival cannot be a staged event, he said. "That will not work."

The mayors are also looking at regulating excessive traffic to squares and bars and discouraging carnival tourism. The intention is not that people flock to the south because they feel like a party. The folk festival attracts a large crowd from its own region alone.

They will make joint agreements with minor differences. "There are many variations of carnival in the country," explained Bruls. Limburg, Noord-Brabant, and the east of the country all have their own customs.

According to Mikkers, one thing is certain: the country is still in a crisis. "We have to celebrate carnival this year with reflection."

[Nicky91]

Netherlands tuesdays weekly recap of numbers

last 7 days 1.105 new hospitalisations which is more than the week before of 852 new covid patients in hospitals

on the ICU's it were 93 new patients in total, increase of 39%


RIVM reported last 7 days around 500.000 positive covid tests, increase from the week before of 45%

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/02/01/half-million-covid-access-passes-invalid-friday

Netherlands: Half a million Covid access passes invalid from Friday
About 500,000 Netherlands residents will no longer have a green tick on their coronavirus access pass from Friday, Health Minister Ernst Kuipers said. They haven't had a booster shot yet, and the validity period of their Covid-19 vaccination certificate is coming to an end.

From this month, vaccination certificates are only valid for 270 days - in line with the European travel passes. The Ministry of Public Health calculated that "up to 540,000" people's access passes will expire on Friday based on how many people had their vaccinations over 270 days ago, the number of booster shots administered, and the number of people who tested positive for Covid-19, Kuipers wrote on Monday in response to parliamentary questions.

Kuipers expects that the shorter validity period of access passes will encourage more people to get the booster shot. "The GGDs have sufficient capacity to give everyone in the Netherlands a booster shot," he said.

The Tweede Kamer, the lower house of the Dutch parliament, will debate the extension of the temporary coronavirus law on Tuesday. This is the fourth time the law has been extended. Parliamentarians will also discuss the validity period of vaccination certificates and recovery certificates (180 days).

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https://nltimes.nl/2022/02/01/health-min-postpones-stricter-covid-access-policy-pending-research

Health Min. postpones stricter Covid access policy pending further research
Health Minister Ernst Kuipers asked parliament not to vote on the bill for a stricter coronavirus access policy that refuses unvaccinated people. He first wants to do further research to see in which circumstances the 2G access policy is a "proportional measure" to use. Kuipers made this appeal on the same day that coalition party ChristenUnie and opposition party GroenLinks pledged support for a proposal to scrap the 2G bill, NOS and Het Parool report.

The Netherlands currently works on a 3G access policy. It allows access to the catering sector, among other things, to people who have been vaccinated against, recently recovered from, or tested negative for Covid-19. The 2G policy only allows people vaccinated against or recently recovered from Covid-19. This means that unvaccinated people who didn't recently have Covid-19 won't be able to access the catering sector and the like.

The Cabinet considers the 2G policy a better way to prevent the spread of the coronavirus. But the plan has been facing major opposition for months. A recent study on behalf of the Ministry of Public Health also found that the 2G policy won't be very effective against the high number of infections caused by the currently dominant Omicron variant of the coronavirus.

On Tuesday, parliament was set to vote on a motion filed by the SGP and parliamentarian Pieter Omtzigt to scrap the 2G bill. With ChristenUnie and GroenLinks' support, the motion would likely have had majority support. The other left-wing opposition party PvdA and GroenLinks often vote together. But even if the PvdA continued to support the 2G plan, there is currently no majority for it in the Senate. All other opposition parties are against it.

The ChristenUnie's attitude is a setback for the Cabinet, but not a surprise. CU parliamentarian Mirjam Bikker often spoke out against the 2G policy, suggesting a 1G policy instead, in which everyone - vaccinated or not - must test negative for Covid-19 to get an access pass.

In his weekly press conference on Friday, Prime Minister Mark Rutte acknowledged that the 2G policy would be less effective with the currently very high number of infections than lower infection rates. But he added that it would still have a dampening effect on the infection figures. And the Netherlands will need every method possible to lower the number of infections, especially because more measures have been relaxed, he said.

"We think that is an acceptable risk, but it does mean that you have to use the entire set of instruments," he said. Many of the Netherlands' neighbors are using the 2G policy and have fewer restrictions in place, he pointed out. In the Netherlands, people want to be as open as other countries and not use the 2G access policy, he said. "It cannot be and, and."

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Tuesday 1/2/22



219 have Died
112,458 have caught Covid-19


Patients in hospital
Latest available
15,669

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
511





156,875 UK total of Covid-19 Deaths



https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

Tuesday 1/2/22



219 have Died
112,458 have caught Covid-19


Patients in hospital
Latest available
15,669

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
511





156,875 UK total of Covid-19 Deaths



https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


15,000+ hospitalisations !?


I haven’t been paying attention for a while but that seems rather high , surely ??!?!


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15,000+ hospitalisations !?


I haven’t been paying attention for a while but that seems rather high , surely ??!?!


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It’s 1000 down on last week and given a third have gone in with something else and have tested positive it looks fine


My 90 plus neighbour went in last Thursday with covid she is fine according to her daughter but they haven’t let her out yet

When they wheeled her into the ambulance she had a bad cough but didn’t need oxygen

[Alf]

Has the pandemic finished yet?

You will let us know when it has, won't you?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Has the pandemic finished yet?

You will let us know when it has, won't you?

I'd be interested too. Maybe the useless WHo can tell us, remember them?

[arista]

Has the pandemic finished yet?

You will let us know when it has, won't you?


No China's Covid-19 is still spreading.

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So you don’t need to worry any more Zizu :dance:

[Zizu]

So you don’t need to worry any more Zizu :dance:


True !!

Unless it’s more ‘fake news’

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[Zizu]

So you don’t need to worry any more Zizu :dance:


Mmmm what about all those who are getting poorly a THIRD time ?


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[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

67.045 new cases (another technical malfunction so can be much higher)

1.372 total hospitalisations increase of 29

215 total on ICU's/ventilators increase of 9


Booster percentage at 58.8%

[arista]

2/2/22 Wednesday

534 have Died
88,085 have caught Covid-19




Patients in hospital
Latest available
15,233

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
502


157,409 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Mmmm what about all those who are getting poorly a THIRD time ?


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were you more poorly than a normal flu reaction?

I think you love being a victim, be grateful you had a minor illness and stop stressing

[GoldHeart]

We're all going to have to live with COVID being around , take precautions still and use common sense but still go out and get on with our lives.

[Cherie]

We're all going to have to live with COVID being around , take precautions still and use common sense but still go out and get on with our lives.

quite right Goldie

[Zizu]

were you more poorly than a normal flu reaction?

I think you love being a victim, be grateful you had a minor illness and stop stressing


To be fair I was in bed for 6 days and I’ve spent the last 9 days asleep/or flat out on the sofa .. 16 days of pain in all parts of my body ..

If that’s flu then so be it ..


It’s easiest the worst thing I’ve had to endure including the times I had food poisoning and the two periods I spent in hospital after allergic reactions to antibiotics

I return to work tomorrow .. probably a lot sooner than I should but it is what it is


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[AnnieK]

To be fair I was in bed for 6 days and I’ve spent the last 9 days asleep/or flat out on the sofa .. 16 days of pain in all parts of my body ..

If that’s flu then so be it ..


It’s easiest the worst thing I’ve had to endure including the times I had food poisoning and the two periods I spent in hospital after allergic reactions to antibiotics

I return to work tomorrow .. probably a lot sooner than I should but it is what it is


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I think you were very unlucky Zizu. I personally have had worse colds and everyone I know has been the same. If you don't feel ready to go back work are yiu not best off waiting until Monday?

[Zizu]

I think you were very unlucky Zizu. I personally have had worse colds and everyone I know has been the same. If you don't feel ready to go back work are yiu not best off waiting until Monday?


I told them I’d go in Monday just gone but asked for a few more days ..

I can’t put things off forever .

I decided to bite the bullet ...if I feel dreadful I’ll just just home


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:facepalm:

[Zizu]

:facepalm:


???


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https://nltimes.nl/2022/02/02/nightclubs-fed-covid-rules-plan-open-feb-12

Netherlands: Nightclubs fed up with Covid rules plan to open on Feb. 12
Nightclubs and discotheques plan to open their doors next Saturday. Two organizations representing the businesses, Nachtbelang and the Overleg Amsterdamse Clubs (OAC), say they are fed up that the Cabinet's plans to reopen society still have not given any consideration to nightlife companies. They want clubs across the country to open their doors on February 12.

"And not for one night, but just every night," said activist group De Nacht Staat Op, which translates as The Night Rises Up. "Everyone deserves the night to get to know themselves and to be themselves. If you don't see that, you're sleeping. That's why the night rises up: to shake the government and wake everyone up again," the group said in a video on the Instagram page.

According to a spokesperson for the campaign, the aim is to generate attention for the clubs again. "We notice that that is not happening at all, and that just hurts after being closed for two years."

The spokesperson said, "With this action we want to show ourselves how we can open safely again. It is certain that the target group of nightclubs is now visiting each other at various locations and parties, he stated. "We can do that much more safely with security guards, bar staff and a good ventilation system." The intention is that during the night of the February 12 promotion, the coronavirus access pass will be checked.

The sector will continue to consult with the Ministry of Economic Affairs on Monday. According to the ministry, this is about "collecting input to take with to the Cabinet's deliberation moment." According to a spokesperson, no decision will be made about the use of the 1G coronavirus pass policy in the nightlife sector, where all visitors are required to get a coronavirus test regardless of vaccination or recovery status.

Health Minister Ernst Kuipers said in the Tweede Kamer last week that he wanted to investigate whether the nightlife industry could open with the 1G policy. Currently, the 3G policy is in place, where the access pass is provided to anyone considered fully vaccinated against Covid-19, anyone who recently recovered from the coronavirus infection, or anyone who tests negative within 24 hours of entry.

According to the current rules, the entire hospitality industry must close its doors at 10 p.m. nightly. Assigned seating is also required

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

82.961 new cases

1.386 total hospitalisations

218 total on ICU's/ventilators, 16 new patients on ICU's

11 new deaths

201 new patients on the nursing wards

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/02/03/covid-access-pass-little-effect-pandemic-experts-say

Netherlands: Covid access pass having very little effect on pandemic, experts say
The effect of the 3G coronavirus access pass policy on the pandemic is currently so limited that it may as well be abolished, three experts said to NU.nl. Though they added that if the access policy is scrapped, other measures will have to take its place.

There are three levels of Covid-19 access policy commonly used in the world. The Netherlands works on the 3G policy, which allows access to things like restaurants to people who have been vaccinated against, recovered from, or tested negative for Covid-19. The term 3G comes from the three G's in Dutch words gevaccineerd (vaccinated), genezen (recovered), and getest (tested). 2G allows access to vaccinated and recovered people. With 1G everyone must test negative, vaccinated or not.

A recent study by TU Delft showed that the 2G and 3G access policies aren't very effective against the current high number of Covid-19 infections caused by the extra contagious Omicron variant. The 1G policy would be more effective, though there are practical problems with testing so many people every day. 2G and 3G are also more effective if the group not protected against Covid through vaccination or recovery is larger. In the past weeks, infections skyrocketed, resulting in more people building up natural protection.

Niek Mouter, the author of the TU Delft study, therefore believes that a discussion can be held on whether the access policy is still a proportionate measure. He doesn't want to comment on which measures should go and stay. "But the effect has become a lot smaller. I am happy that the discussion can now be held," he said to NU.nl.

Epidemiologists Patricia Bruijning and Frist Roosendaal told NU.nl that the 3G access policy is still dampening the spread of the coronavirus, but the effect is minimal. And that effect will become smaller in the coming weeks, Bruijning said. The Netherlands is still moving towards the peak of the current coronavirus wave, which means that even more people will become infected and build up protection. "Once you're at this stage, it doesn't add a whole lot more."

Roosendaal adds that 3G is aimed at slowing down the pandemic. "That doesn't work now because you can get the virus everywhere. It's a matter of mopping with the tap open. Vaccines also don't prevent all Omicron infections. So the mop you're using is also broken."

As the access policy is still having some effect, scrapping it would mean taking other measures to fill the gap it leaves, the epidemiologists said. For example, the catering establishments would have to close early for a longer period of time. And then, the question is whether it is fair to move away from the access policy. "You actually keep things away from people who were properly vaccinated. I find that a bit storage," Roosendaal said.

"You have to do it in steps and prioritize things," Bruijning said to the newspaper. "You have a toolbox to prevent the spread of the virus. Each measure individually does not do much, but together it does. At the next moment of consideration, the question is, what is your priority? Abandoning 3G? Or, for example, keeping bars open for longer?

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: reduced audiences are welcome again at football matches as of February 12th, but everyone still has to wear a face mask and 1.5 metre distance from each other

[Crimson Dynamo]

Netherlands: reduced audiences are welcome again at football matches as of February 12th, but everyone still has to wear a face mask and 1.5 metre distance from each other

Is your country not embarrassed by how Denmark are handling this?

they have far higher cases but have ended all restrictions?

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/02/04/covid-passes-expiring-today-brief-grace-period-granted

Netherlands: No Covid passes expiring today; Brief grace period granted
The first green check marks on the CoronaCheck app will not expire on Friday but from Tuesday next week. The Ministry of Public Health announced that the first expiration dates are moved from February 4 to February 8.

It concerns over half a million people who received two vaccinations but no booster. They'll lose their coronavirus access pass, usually shown as a QR code on the government's CoronaCheck app. They can get tested if they still want to access locations where an access pass is required.

The Cabinet set the validity period for the Covid-19 vaccination certificate to align with the European travel passes, the Digital Corona Certificate (DCC). The vaccination certificate is valid for nine months, after which it expires if the person hasn't had a booster shot. The booster shot certificate does not have an expiry date yet. The recovery certificate is valid for six months.

Earlier this week, parliament was critical about the expiry of the vaccination certificates. But a motion to stop it did not receive majority support.

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https://nltimes.nl/2022/02/04/dutch-football-campaign-full-stadiums-weekend

Dutch football to campaign for full stadiums this weekend
Dutch professional football will be campaigning for full stadiums this weekend using #stadionsvol. According to a joint statement by the football clubs, supporters, and other parties in professional football, allowing more spectators at matches can absolutely be done safely and responsibly, AD reports. The current coronavirus measures state that stadiums can only be filled to one-third capacity.

"Paid football is about playing in front of an audience. Playing football in front of empty or mostly empty stands is lacking in atmosphere, unnecessary, and costs a lot of money. 1/3 stadium occupancy is not a long-term solution," the statement read. "We don't want to go into a process that could take weeks or months. The Hague must issue a clear end date, after which we can build up to full(er) stadiums. We would at least like to receive everyone who has bought a season ticket as soon as possible."

According to Dutch football, previous field lab experiments showed that stadiums are not Covid-19 hotspots. "This is apparent from information from the GGD and is also logical: no one enters without their coronavirus access pass checked, and all spectators are in the open air. Research shows that there are hardly any infections outside."

They also launched a petition, which they plan to present to the government next Thursday. At 10:00 a.m. on Friday, it already had nearly 32,700 signatures.

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/02/04/booster-shots-necessary-teens-health-council

Netherlands: Booster shots not necessary for teens: Health Council
The Health Council considers it unnecessary to offer all teenagers aged 12 to 17 a booster shot against Covid-19. A booster vaccination provides only "minimal health benefits" for this age group, according to the Health Council.

The Council also believes that an additional vaccination for adolescents will have "no significant effect" on the spread of the coronavirus among the population. While, in rare cases, the vaccination can lead to inflammation of the heart muscle or the pericardium. Also, the European Medicines Agency (EMA) has not yet said anything about the benefits and risks of a booster shot for people under the age of 18.

The Council's advice also applies to teenagers with an increased risk of severe illness after a coronavirus infection. For example, people who are usually also invited for the flu shot and people with Down's syndrome.

The Health Council recommended "customization" for teenagers with a severe immune disorder. People age 12 and older with such a disorder, for whom two vaccine doses may not offer sufficient protection, were already able to get a third shot. "The re-eligibility of these adolescents and their relatives for additional vaccine doses will have to be assessed by their pediatricians," the Council said. Young people who want a booster shot to protect a vulnerable family member should also be able to receive an extra vaccination.

Some teenagers also want a booster shot because it is a requirement to travel without regular Covid-19 testing. It is not up to the Council to decide whether an extra would be available to this group, it said.

Former Health Minister Hugo de Jonge asked the Health Council for advice on booster shots for teenagers at the end of December. The vaccines the EMA so far approved for booster shots have only been approved for adults. De Jonge, therefore, also asked the Health Council whether the booster campaign for teens should start without approval.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

1.366 total hospitalisations, decrease of 20 compared to yesterday

1.152 total on nursing wards, decrease of 16 compared to yesterday

214 total on ICU's/ventilators, decrease of 4 compared to yesterday

72.162 new cases


booster percentage now at 59.4%

[arista]

Friday 4/2/22

254 Have died
84,053 Have caught Covid-19



Patients in hospital
Latest available
14,634


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
478



157,984 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

28/1/22 Friday

277 have Died
89,176 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
16,149

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
549


155,317 Total UK Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Friday 4/2/22

254 Have died
84,053 Have caught Covid-19



Patients in hospital
Latest available
14,634


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
478



157,984 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[arista]

Omicron can be caught loads of times,
that's the problem.


The Hotspots are spreading it cross the UK.


Dr Chris Smith and Professor Linda Bauld
just on BBC1AM

[Alf]

Shaq knows

I bet they don't have him on as a guest again.


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Omicron can be caught loads of times,
that's the problem.


The Hotspots are spreading it cross the UK.


Dr Chris Smith and Professor Linda Bauld
just on BBC1AM

yes most folk catch a few colds every year

[bots]

in 3 months there will be an updated vaccine that includes omicron and it will be updated for any new variants too, just like the flu jab

[Vicky.]

in 3 months there will be an updated vaccine that includes omicron and it will be updated for any new variants too, just like the flu jab

And it should be given to those high risk and those who want it, rather than everyone getting pressured.

The amount of ads I hear pressuring for 'get your 12-15 year olds vaccinated' is insane.

I have had 4 texts in the past 10 days about getting my second jab. I only got the first one as I was ****ing sectioned at the time and they made me (so much for informed consent) :laugh: Am not antivax but I kinda feel its unnecessary. Plus my brother who is a fit young man got really really ill off his vaccinations. Probably more ill than he would ever have been with actual covid. If not, then it was on par so he might aswell have just caught it and gained natural immunity instead.

[arista]

in 3 months there will be an updated vaccine that includes omicron and it will be updated for any new variants too, just like the flu jab


Yes makes sense.

[Zizu]

in 3 months there will be an updated vaccine that includes omicron and it will be updated for any new variants too, just like the flu jab


Mmmmm I think I saw a clip from ‘that’ online Doctor Campbell is convinced that there won’t be any more vaccines and we will let the herd immunity kick in now


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[Zizu]

Just wondering about Covid 19 ..

Do they know why 33% test positive but show ZERO symptoms yet ??

Are there any other diseases that do that ?


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Saturday 5/2/22

259 have Died
60,578 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital - Not Updated, yesterdays
Patients in ventilation beds - Not Updated, yesterdays


158,243 Total UK deaths of Covid-19


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[user104658]

Just wondering about Covid 19 ..

Do they know why 33% test positive but show ZERO symptoms yet ??

Are there any other diseases that do that ?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProYes a large number of asymptomatic carriers is normal for any virus - we just wouldn't normally know about them because there isn't periodic testing like there is with Covid.

[Zizu]

Yes a large number of asymptomatic carriers is normal for any virus - we just wouldn't normally know about them because there isn't periodic testing like there is with Covid.


Thanks

Any ideas why some get poorly and others feel nothing ??


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Any ideas why some get poorly and others feel nothing ??


The short answer is differences in immune response. The reasons for that could be either genetic or environmental - there's some anecdotal evidence for both with Covid. That doesn't necessarily mean those people have overall "better" immune systems per se, just that they have immune systems that are, for whatever reason, better geared towards Covid.

The answers to these things are still semi-mysteries in immunology I believe, when they're solved it'll probably lead to a huge leap forward in medical science.

[Zizu]

The short answer is differences in immune response. The reasons for that could be either genetic or environmental - there's some anecdotal evidence for both with Covid. That doesn't necessarily mean those people have overall "better" immune systems per se, just that they have immune systems that are, for whatever reason, better geared towards Covid.

The answers to these things are still semi-mysteries in immunology I believe, when they're solved it'll probably lead to a huge leap forward in medical science.


Thank you !


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[Cherie]

I missed what paper it was in but the number of patients going into ICU with covid is now down to a handful


My 90 plus neighbour is still in hospital, fully recovered from covid but waiting on an OT assessment, over a week now, how many more in the hospital numbers are in this situation

[bots]

i think they continue to feed us pessimistic information, although they are struggling more and more to find any

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

80.946 new cases

1.344 total hospitalisations decrease of 19

211 total on ICU's/ventilators decrease of 18

booster percentage 59.4%

[arista]

Sunday 6/2/22

75 have Died
54,095 have caught Covid-19



Patients in hospital
Latest available
14,634


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
478


158,318 UK Total Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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It is absolutely tragic that so many people are waiting for treatments but given we are going through a once every hundred year pandemic - how is this Boris’s fault ?

Do we have similar stats for all the other countries ?

Presumably every country has similarly massive delays ?


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[arista]

It is absolutely tragic that so many people are waiting for treatments but given we are going through a once every hundred year pandemic - how is this Boris’s fault ?

Do we have similar stats for all the other countries ?

Presumably every country has similarly massive delays ?




It was due yesterday
but the PM delayed the plan without a valid reason.

Of course Worldwide
the Pandemic has caused delays in everything
as money is not there.

[Nicky91]

netherlands last 7 days numbers

total of 824.304 positive tests

[Crimson Dynamo]

Been to see 2 care homes with me old mum this week and both times we have
just arrived at an arranged time and had a look around the place and not had
to provide a LFT. Then when you sit down and ask a few questions and ask
about visiting they both said in solemn tones "oh yes visitors must provide a
LFT on arrival that has been done in last hour on in the waiting room. "


:think:

[arista]

Tuesday 8/2/22


314 Have Died.
66,183 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
13,793


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
443


158,677 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Beso]

High deaths still.

[Crimson Dynamo]

High deaths still.

arrive into hospital with un covid issue and die from it but meanwhile also test positive

[user104658]

arrive into hospital with un covid issue and die from it but meanwhile also test positive

I'd say that only accounts for maybe 1/4 of it.

[Beso]

This vaccine thing on bbc one is interesting.

[MTVN]

I'd say that only accounts for maybe 1/4 of it.

The number of people in hospital 'with covid' as opposed to 'from covid' has been steadily growing for some time, think a couple of weeks ago about half of hospital admissions were with covid rather than from and that is probably true of deaths as well

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[bots]

All remaining Covid restrictions in England - including the legal rule to self-isolate - could end later this month, Boris Johnson has said.

Under the current rules, anyone who tests positive must self-isolate for at least five days.

The current restrictions are due to expire on 24 March.

But Mr Johnson told MPs he expected the last domestic rules would end early provided the positive trends in the data continue.

He said he intended to return after parliamentary recess - which is from 21 February - to outline the government's strategy for living with Covid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60319947

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I think its a certainty in a couple of weeks

[arista]

Yes Many Doctors
are not sure.

Alf will be Happy




I will still have a Mask on
in shops



We are Going like Denmark.

[arista]

Canada Blockade against any Restrictions of Covid

Now has
France doing the same.

A protestor live on SkyNewsHD
said it's not about Vaccines
it is about Freedom, no lockdowns.

He used the word Ball****
the presenter apologised

[arista]

Wednesday 9/2/22

276 have Died
68,214 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
13,545


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
430


158,953 Total Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

All remaining Covid restrictions in England - including the legal rule to self-isolate - could end later this month, Boris Johnson has said.

Under the current rules, anyone who tests positive must self-isolate for at least five days.

The current restrictions are due to expire on 24 March.

But Mr Johnson told MPs he expected the last domestic rules would end early provided the positive trends in the data continue.

He said he intended to return after parliamentary recess - which is from 21 February - to outline the government's strategy for living with Covid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-60319947

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I think its a certainty in a couple of weeks

Two years in I think it’s time

[arista]

Two years in I think it’s time



We really need a Live Reporter
in Denmark
they have done this, weeks ahead of us.



It is still a threat on those that
can not handle any Covid.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[bots]

prince Charles has covid again

[user104658]

Anyone getting deja vu?

[arista]

prince Charles has covid again


He will be Alright.

The problem is the poor workers that do not get sick pay
and go to work spreading it..............................

[arista]

Anyone getting deja vu?




Yes
but you are in Scotland
so No 21st Feb for you lot

[user104658]

But that just means we also won't have to spin on our heels in 4 months when they decide that "no going back" is actually not true and we are, indeed, going back.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/02/10/12/54015371-0-image-m-9_1644496165787.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10498195/Prince-Charles-tests-positive-Covid-forced-self-isolation.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/02/10/12/54015371-0-image-m-9_1644496165787.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10498195/Prince-Charles-tests-positive-Covid-forced-self-isolation.html

has tested positive for Omicron but has no symptoms

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/02/10/10/54011095-0-image-a-22_1644488271864.jpg



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10497445/Unions-scientists-claim-Boris-moving-far-soon-rules-set-gone-fortnight.html


[Unions and scientists claim Boris is
moving 'too far, too soon' as he
reveals ALL Covid rules will be gone in a fortnight]

[Crimson Dynamo]

Christina McAnea, general secretary of the public sector union UNISON, said: 'Everybody
wants to get back to normal, but Covid risks haven't disappeared. ​This is going too far, ​
way too soon. Infections are still rife in schools​. Large numbers of pupils ​and staff are off​ (sat at home not ill doing F All)
Allowing ​a ​premature return could lead to a further jump in infections and disrupt learning
for thousands more ​children and young people.'

then stop testing you stupid woman

[bots]

no-one will test if it's not a legal requirement to stay home, why would they. That will also be the point where they stop providing tests for free.

The whole point about living with it is .... that we live with it :laugh:

[Cherie]

There is an insane situation going on at the school I used to work at, if a student tests positive in class they are sent home and any non vaccinated staff (who test negative) are sent home to isolate on full pay, while those vaccinated and test negative have to remain at work...you can imagine how well that is going down

[arista]

Thursday 10/2/22

206 have Died
66,638 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
13,126

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
432


159,158 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/02/10/16/54024173-0-image-m-14_1644509331454.jpg


Charles met her on Tuesday.
Ch5HDnews Live said she is not displaying any symptoms, today.

[user104658]

The Queen dying of Covid on the year of her diamond jubilee would really be classic 2020's. What would the union-flag-humping antimaskers say though?

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Queen dying of Covid on the year of her diamond jubilee would really be classic 2020's. What would the union-flag-humping antimaskers say though?

anti-maskers?


Id think most rational people know that wearing a piece of cloth across your face is just for show and has zero effect on the most virile transmissible respiratory disease known to science

Its about as good as a posy of flowers that people used against the black plague


:skull:

[bots]

with Charles having it, this could be william's chance at the top job

[user104658]

anti-maskers?


Id think most rational people know that wearing a piece of cloth across your face is just for show and has zero effect on the most virile transmissible respiratory disease known to science

Its about as good as a posy of flowers that people used against the black plague


:skull:

The umbrella term "anti-maskers" obviously covers a lot more thank mask skepticism. I was just being polite and not saying "undereducated flag-thumping trogs".

[bots]

reading what the palace have said, i think the queen has covid

"The Prince of Wales, who is self-isolating after testing positive for Covid-19, met the Queen two days ago in Windsor, a royal source says.

They say the monarch is not showing any symptoms of coronavirus."

and then

"Buckingham Palace has not confirmed whether the Queen has tested positive or negative, citing medical privacy"

[Zizu]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/02/10/16/54024173-0-image-m-14_1644509331454.jpg


Charles met her on Tuesday.
Ch5HDnews Live said she is not displaying any symptoms, today.


Give it another couple of days


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[Beso]

Surely his massive nose got close enough to her maj...Not 2 in one go...imagine!!

[user104658]

Surely his massive nose got close enough to her maj...Not 2 in one go...imagine!!

Getting William on the throne fairly young is the only thing that'll save the British Monarchy in the long run so... ... ... :umm2:

[Beso]

Getting William on the throne fairly young is the only thing that'll save the British Monarchy in the long run so... ... ... :umm2:

Sprinkle the fairy dust.

[Cherie]

If Charles kills Liz before we get a two day bank holiday no one will ever forgive him

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

New York City
has now ended Mask or Vaccine Mandate for Businesses
due to lesser covid rates


Ref: CNN HD USA

[arista]

Spain will now allow 12 year olds to travel
so long as 72 hours from travel
a Negative PCR test is taken.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60335735

[People aged 18 and over must still be vaccinated to get into the country.]

[Alf]

1492087366114234369

[Zizu]

1492087366114234369


Well those who didn’t have it before will probably have it after that ...

:)


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[arista]

Friday 11/2/22

193 Have Died
58,899 Have caught Covid-19


Patients in hospital
Latest available
12,753

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
430


159,351 Total UK Covid-19


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[user104658]

1492087366114234369

Not this being used to suggest kids actually care all that much about ... anything at all ... they'd react like this to "Tomorrow we're going to have an ORANGE AT LUNCH instead of an apple!!"

Also half of them aren't wearing masks at the start of this video! :joker:

[bots]

it's a very staged video in my opinion