Coronavirus Outbreak : England Removed All Restrictions

[arista]

Making a new thread as the
other reaches 10K.

the 3rd thread:
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=372612

the 2nd thread:
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=367200

Shaun's Very First thread:
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=364573

[joeysteele]

Labour back Plan B.

Yes Labour has backed plan B for a good while.

Perhaps anything from 750 to 1000 deaths a week MAY have been avoided had face masks, and actually social distancing remained in place.

Obviously from my own political perspective I agree with Vanessa, surely Labour couldn't do worse than this lot have.

That of course can't be known until they've had the chance.
However in my view a robot leading Labour surely couldn't possibly do worse than this inept, politically deceitful, lying PM we have right now.

Cons, well, the hard-line ones and closet hardline ones won't agree obviously.
I just hope the softer vote to the Cons from voters are waking up to how pathetic Johnson really is.

I'll leave it there as if I got really going, I'd be likely banned for what I'd like to say as to my thoughts about Johnson.

[arista]

Three vaccine doses key for tackling Omicron

[Two doses of a Covid vaccine are not enough
to stop you catching the Omicron variant,
UK scientists have warned.
Early analysis of UK Omicron and Delta cases showed
the vaccines were less effective at
stopping the new variant.

However, a third booster prevents around 75% of
people getting any Covid symptom.

The UK Health Security Agency
said vaccines were still likely to
offer good protection against
severe Covid that needed hospital treatment.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59615005

[joeysteele]

Why does that happen.
Just typed a post and then get told it's closed and all the work of the post is gone.
What a waste of my time.

Maybe just as well.

[joeysteele]

Oops, my apologies.
I see it's on the old thread so lost anyway.
Doesn't matter anyhow.

[MTVN]

I've moved your post here Joey as I felt guilty closing the thread just after you'd spent time typing that lol

Also leaves the old one with 9,999 replies which is pretty cool and 10,000 posts exactly

[Crimson Dynamo]

I listen to a lot of news radio and in the last 2 weeks I have not heard a single call from a tory voter who is still supporting the PM

not one

and there have been hundreds of calls that I have heard

100% are against him

[joeysteele]

I've moved your post here Joey as I felt guilty closing the thread just after you'd spent time typing that lol

Also leaves the old one with 9,999 replies which is pretty cool and 10,000 posts exactly

It doesn't matter MTVN.
I wasn't saying anything anyone wouldn't expect me to.:joker:

You may have done the forum a favour sparing it my thoughts.:joker:

[arista]

58,000 Omicron Covid cases

Ch4HDnews

[Crimson Dynamo]

The thread should not be called Coronavirus outbreak

It should be called On-going Covid 19 Pandemic

[Beso]

Or thread 4

[Beso]

Mutating worse than the virus, old tibb and its threads like.

[Zizu]

However in my view a robot leading Labour surely couldn't possibly do worse than this inept, politically deceitful

.

You’ve just about described every politician since the late 1950’s ...


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[Zizu]

58,000 Omicron Covid cases

Ch4HDnews


Really !?!?!?!?

Not all Omicron surely ?


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[Zizu]

Soooo Covid 19 appeared ... then Delta had six mutations.. Omicron has 50+ mutations .. what’s next on the conveyor belt !?!?


Are we doomed ?


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[Zizu]

Also ... suggestions that by New Year’s Eve there could be one MILLION infections ...

Is that one million Covid infections in total ?

How many approximately are there now ??


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[arista]

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[Zizu]

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70 to 75% protection may help but it it won’t stop it


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[arista]

70 to 75% protection may help but it it won’t stop it




Sure.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Zizu]

Do we know what % of uk adults have contracted Covid ??

Just wondering if it’s something low like 20% or more worrying like 80% .


It feels like it’s kinda inevitable now tbh


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[arista]

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[Alf]

Do the people who do the Covid tests have to quarantine whenever they come into contact with someone who tests positive or do they just carry on testing other people?

[joeysteele]

You’ve just about described every politician since the late 1950’s ...


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As I've said to you before.
There are many, in fact the majority of MPs who are dedicated people really wanting to serve their constituents properly and who are hard working..
From every single political party in existence.

The parliamentary system stinks where people are forced rigidly to follow party lines.
Or face consequences to their careers possibly.

To say every politician, may be your view but it's not the case.
I know obviously Labour MPs really dedicated and longing to make lives better for all.
Plus I know Con MPs exactly the same in that too.

One reason I like Labour and therefore joined it, is the fact Labour MPs and members DON'T adhere to the rigidity of party directives, even moreso when they're wrong directives and they'll say so.
It gets called division when in fact it's just making an alternative argument.

The MPs who play the system and who do wrong, are out of all the MPs since the late 50s as you say.
Are a small minority of all such MPs since then.

As for being robotic, that's the party and parliamentary system we've had all through politics.
So I can't agree with you at all, sorry.

The Commons has from every single party the vast majority of more likely decent men and women who try to and want to do their very best for their constituents and constituencies.
As well as for the Nation as well.

[arista]

Do the people who do the Covid tests have to quarantine whenever they come into contact with someone who tests positive or do they just carry on testing other people?


Yes
back to work
as soon as the Tests say they are clear of it.

[Alf]

Yes
back to work
as soon as the Tests say they are clear of it.I don't think I put that question across properly.

I'm talking about the people at Covid testing sites and such places who do the tests on other people. If they test someone and the person they test is positive, then do those doing the testing have to immediately stop testing other people and go and isolate? Or do they carry on testing other people after being in contact with someone who is positive?

[arista]

Really !?!?!?!?

Not all Omicron surely ?



My error


Zizu
450 Omicron cases in the UK
yesterday news

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-omicron-cases-rise-sharply-by-448-and-all-coronavirus-infections-top-58-000-in-latest-daily-figures-12491910

[Alf]

Yes Zizu
58,000 Omicron cases in the UK
yesterday news

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-omicron-cases-rise-sharply-by-448-and-all-coronavirus-infections-top-58-000-in-latest-daily-figures-12491910And of those 58,000 cases how many Omicron deaths? I hear it's zero.

[arista]

And of those 58,000 cases how many Omicron deaths? I hear it's zero.


Yes no deaths, Yet
thats why they are called Cases.

[arista]

I don't think I put that question across properly.

I'm talking about the people at Covid testing sites and such places who do the tests on other people. If they test someone and the person they test is positive, then do those doing the testing have to immediately stop testing other people and go and isolate? Or do they carry on testing other people after being in contact with someone who is positive?



Alf
Of course, they Test daily
If the Test shows they have it - They go home

[Alf]

Yes no deaths, Yet
thats why they are called Cases.Pretty much confirms it's not deadly though, infact the flu (which we just live with every year without liberties being taken away) is far, far more deadly.

[arista]

Pretty much confirms it's not deadly though, infact the flu (which we just live with every year without liberties being taken away) is far, far more deadly.


People are Dying every Day Alf
Delta AND other Covid-19
it is deadly.



[Deaths within 28 days of positive test
Daily
120 — Daily number of deaths within 28 days of first positive test,
reported on Friday, 10 December 2021.]



https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom

Total UK Deaths of Covid-19
146,255

[Alf]

People are Dying every Day Alf
Delta AND other Covid-19
it is deadly.



[Deaths within 28 days of positive test
Daily
120 — Daily number of deaths within 28 days of first positive test,
reported on Friday, 10 December 2021.]



https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom

Total UK Deaths of Covid-19
146,255
The Omicron isn't deadly though, so why have the masks and lockdown mandates come back in due to Omicron coming about when they wasn't happening during Delta?

[arista]

The Omicron isn't deadly though, so why have the masks and lockdown mandates come back in due to Omicron coming about when they wasn't happening during Delta?


We do not know yet
it will take time to find out.

[Alf]

We do not know yet
it will take time to find out.If there's zero deaths in 58,000 cases, I think we've already found out.

[arista]

If there's zero deaths in 58,000 cases, I think we've already found out.


No, we are weeks behind
of knowing,

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/11/01/51616903-0-image-a-48_1639184496613.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10298323/Vast-majority-Britons-NO-PROTECTION-against-Omicron.html

[Alf]

No, we are weeks behind
of knowing,Maybe you are, but I'm not, that's because I'm not waiting around for my masters to tell me what's right and wrong.

[arista]

Maybe you are, but I'm not, that's because I'm not waiting around for my masters to tell me what's right and wrong.


By then, we could be in a Lockdown


Covid: Omicron study suggests major wave in January


[The UK is facing a substantial wave of
Omicron infections in January without
further restrictions, scientists say.
The number of deaths from the variant by the
end of April could range from 25,000 to 75,000 depending
on how well vaccines perform, they said.
But the experts behind the study said there
was still uncertainty around the modelling.
In the worst-case scenario tougher restrictions
may be needed to stop hospitals being
overwhelmed, they said.
The work by the London School of Hygiene
and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM) is not a crystal ball.
It does not say what will happen with
the Omicron variant of coronavirus but gives
a range of possible outcomes.

High uptake of the booster dose is likely to mitigate
the impact of the Omicron wave, the researchers said.
Omicron data prompts fresh call to get booster jab]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59621029

[arista]

From yesterdays
CNN HD Business. I record

Australia has Cases going up
over 500 in Sydney is new high
they are rushing to get all a Booster vaccine jab.


They are still
demanding a Zero Covid Policy, there.

[Zizu]

As I've said to you before.
There are many, in fact the majority of MPs who are dedicated people really wanting to serve their constituents properly and who are hard working..
From every single political party in existence.

The parliamentary system stinks where people are forced rigidly to follow party lines.
Or face consequences to their careers possibly.

To say every politician, may be your view but it's not the case.
I know obviously Labour MPs really dedicated and longing to make lives better for all.
Plus I know Con MPs exactly the same in that too.

One reason I like Labour and therefore joined it, is the fact Labour MPs and members DON'T adhere to the rigidity of party directives, even moreso when they're wrong directives and they'll say so.
It gets called division when in fact it's just making an alternative argument.

The MPs who play the system and who do wrong, are out of all the MPs since the late 50s as you say.
Are a small minority of all such MPs since then.

As for being robotic, that's the party and parliamentary system we've had all through politics.
So I can't agree with you at all, sorry.

The Commons has from every single party the vast majority of more likely decent men and women who try to and want to do their very best for their constituents and constituencies.
As well as for the Nation as well.


The scandalous ‘expenses scandal’ was what . .. about 10 years ago ...

So have they all retired or moved on ( hundreds of corrupt MPs as I recall ) ...

Many were even caught editing their own wiki pages afterwards - trying to delete their embarrassing info .

I have no time for them


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[Zizu]

Yes Zizu
58,000 Omicron cases in the UK
yesterday news

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-omicron-cases-rise-sharply-by-448-and-all-coronavirus-infections-top-58-000-in-latest-daily-figures-12491910


It says another 450 or something Omicron cases the other 58,000 will still be Delta


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[Zizu]

Pretty much confirms it's not deadly though, infact the flu (which we just live with every year without liberties being taken away) is far, far more deadly.


There is the usual two week or so delay though .. contract the virus ... get real poorly , intensive care .. death .


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[arista]

It says another 450 or something Omicron cases the other 58,000 will still be Delta




Yes it is 450 Omicron

Thanks for Correcting my Error Zizu

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/DailyMailUK/status/1469672080572563458

[Cherie]

https://twitter.com/DailyMailUK/status/1469672080572563458

Another fear mongering headline, given most over 60s have had their booster now if they wanted it, and it is open to anyone over 40, anyone under 40 got Pfizer

[Cherie]

There is the usual two week or so delay though .. contract the virus ... get real poorly , intensive care .. death .


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and how many go into hospital and come out ...alive

[Cherie]

As a matter of interest Zizu, how many people do you know who needed hospitalisation and then went onto die?

I know a few who were hospitalised but came out alive and are doing fine and dandy, and even more who didn't need hospital treatment

[arista]

Scotland has made the Covid Rules Harder
If you have Covid confirmed
your whole House must Isolate.


Making many angry

[arista]

Plan C
being lined up, but held back for now

SkyNewsHD Live

[AnnieK]

As a matter of interest Zizu, how many people do you know who needed hospitalisation and then went onto die?

I know a few who were hospitalised but came out alive and are doing fine and dandy, and even more who didn't need hospital treatment

I know of a few who died early days but since the roll out I only know if one person who has died of covid.....and they contracted it when in hospital for something unrelated.

I know of a number of people including my brothers father in law and one of my dads buddies who were admitted (dads friend was in icu) but are ok now.

I liberally know (or know of) hundreds of people who had a rough few days but were fine at home

[Alf]

Plan C
being lined up, but held back for now

SkyNewsHD LiveOver 26,000 votes in this poll so far. Click on it and vote to see the latest result.

95% say no


1469321599748907014

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/11/13/article-10299101-51629383-605_964x543.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10299101/Covid-19-UK-come-contact-Omicron-unless-youre-hermit-expert-warns.html

[arista]

Over 26,000 votes in this poll so far. Click on it and vote to see the latest result.

95% say no


1469321599748907014



Sure its not being put out yet
Held Back


Of Course that Radio Station
loves Anti Vaxxers.

[Alf]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/11/13/article-10299101-51629383-605_964x543.jpgIf they agree to shut supermarkets too then I'll go along with it.

[Alf]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/11/13/article-10299101-51629383-605_964x543.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10299101/Covid-19-UK-come-contact-Omicron-unless-youre-hermit-expert-warns.html

Sure its not being put out yet
Held Back


Of Course that Radio Station
loves Anti Vaxxers.GMB love Pro Vaxxers yet they had to delete a poll they did because it wasn't going the way they wanted.

You're in the minority.

[arista]

GMB love Pro Vaxxers yet they had to delete a poll they did because it wasn't going the way they wanted.

You're in the minority.


I watch
GMBHD itv
SkyNewsHD
bbc1 am
GBnewsHD


All have subtitles except
GBnewsHD



So never just one feed

[Zizu]

Yes it is 450 Omicron

Thanks for Correcting my Error Zizu


I only mentioned it because the thought of 58,000 Omicron cases was scary


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[Zizu]

As a matter of interest Zizu, how many people do you know who needed hospitalisation and then went onto die?

I know a few who were hospitalised but came out alive and are doing fine and dandy, and even more who didn't need hospital treatment


I don’t know many personally but the 5 million + Covid deaths ( worldwide ) all followed that pattern closely


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[arista]

[In the last 24-hours, Scotland
has reported 5,018 new COVID-19
cases - a "sharp rise" on the recent
average of 2,800 a day.

As of 5pm on Thursday, 110 of these
were the new Omicron strain,
up from just nine cases 10 days ago.]


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-what-new-measures-have-been-announced-in-scotland-and-what-was-already-in-place-12491984

[Cherie]

I don’t know many personally but the 5 million + Covid deaths ( worldwide ) all followed that pattern closely


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There were 9.6 million deaths worldwide in 2018 from cancer

I wonder how many more in 2020/21 given people have struggled to be diagnosed

[MTVN]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/11/13/article-10299101-51629383-605_964x543.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10299101/Covid-19-UK-come-contact-Omicron-unless-youre-hermit-expert-warns.html

Don't you bloody dare

[bots]

I only mentioned it because the thought of 58,000 Omicron cases was scary


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Given the infection rate of omicron it’s quite possible that half of th m are omicron but why is omicron scary when it is less lethal by any measure than delta?

[arista]

Don't you bloody dare


Many Doctors think it will have to happen
even if it's just the mild Omicron Covid Variation.

It is Doubling every 2 days

[bots]

Many Doctors think it will have to happen
even if it's just the mild Omicron Covid Variation.

It is Doubling every 2 days

It’s not going to happen because people will not accept another ruined Christmas when the government ignored it last year. No restrictions will be listened to this time

[arista]

Saturday 11/12/21

132 have Died
54,037 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,413

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
900

146,387 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Alf]

Many Doctors think it will have to happen
even if it's just the mild Omicron Covid Variation.

It is Doubling every 2 daysThey just want pubs and small and medium business's gone forever so that the The big business has a monopoly on everything.

In the future you will own nothing, you will be reliant on the billionaire's controlling every aspect of your life.

[arista]

It’s not going to happen because people will not accept another ruined Christmas when the government ignored it last year. No restrictions will be listened to this time


The Doctors are saying in January 2022

So Xmas is the Covid Breeding grounds

[MTVN]

Many Doctors think it will have to happen
even if it's just the mild Omicron Covid Variation.

It is Doubling every 2 days

That's because doctors hate pubs

[Crimson Dynamo]

Has one prediction by the so-called experts actually come true re covid?

Sage get things wrong every time

People have had enough with the Fearmongering bollocks

[Zizu]

There were 9.6 million deaths worldwide in 2018 from cancer

I wonder how many more in 2020/21 given people have struggled to be diagnosed


Cancer is arguably the worst disease out there BUT it isn’t contagious and can’t be reduced by wearing masks etc etc


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[Zizu]

Given the infection rate of omicron it’s quite possible that half of th m are omicron but why is omicron scary when it is less lethal by any measure than delta?


We don’t know that for sure yet ... it’s different from all the others so far due to its 50+ mutations

The theory that it’s less dangerous seems to have originated from a South African hospital study based on 41 ( FORTY ONE ) patients !!!

( all relatively young )



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[arista]

We don’t know that for sure yet ... it’s different from all the others so far due to its 50+ mutations

The theory that it’s less dangerous seems to have originated from a South African hospital study based on 41 ( FORTY ONE ) patients !!!

( all relatively young )





Yes and more Deaths
we need the Full report from Omicron in South Africa

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Live on BBC1HD Marr cut direct to The Labour Leader
downstairs, due on later.

He asked him will Labour back the new Conservative
Covid Restriction Vote on Tuesday.
Keir said he will back them.

[bots]

i saw a report saying that within 2 weeks, everyone will have been exposed to omicron, so that should be an interesting period

[Zizu]

Do we have any idea what plan C restrictions will be and when they may be applied ??


Are we likely to be told no unnecessary journeys .. only travelling to work allowed ??


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[arista]

Do we have any idea what plan C restrictions will be and when they may be applied ??


Are we likely to be told no unnecessary journeys .. only travelling to work allowed ??



Plan C
is on hold.

[MTVN]

i saw a report saying that within 2 weeks, everyone will have been exposed to omicron, so that should be an interesting period

These predictions of a million cases a day are insane

[arista]

These predictions of a million cases a day are insane


Lets have the Facts



[COVID
UK reports 1,239 additional Omicron cases - nearly
doubling previous daily high
Of the 3,137 Omicron cases that have now been
reported in the UK, 2,953 cases have been reported in England,
159 have been reported in Scotland,
15 in Wales and
10 in Northern Ireland.]


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-uk-reports-1-239-additional-omicron-cases-nearly-doubling-previous-daily-high-12494070

[Alf]

If you turn your TV's off like I do, Covid goes away. It's far more effective than a vaccine.

[arista]

Sunday 12/12/21

52 have died
48,854 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,413


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
900


146,439 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

If you turn your TV's off like I do, Covid goes away. It's far more effective than a vaccine.



No I have 4.

I enjoy Top Movies Like Amazon Prime
Wrath Of Man.
Virgin V6 Box has the Amazon Prime Channel Ch205
on My 40" 4K
3-D Panasonic Led TV.

[arista]

Johnson Live 8PM tonight

[Alf]

No I have 4.

I enjoy Top Movies Like Amazon Prime
Wrath Of Man.
Virgin V6 Box has the Amazon Prime Channel.
on My 40" 4K
3-D Panasonic Led TV.Movies are fine, watch them. Just turn off the programmes taking about Covid. Which is most of them.

[bots]

Johnson Live 8PM tonight

thats bound to be further restrictions

[arista]

thats bound to be further restrictions



It is about speeding up the Booster jabs
SkyNews say.

[Alf]

Johnson Live 8PM tonightAny excuse for getting out of nappy changing duty.

[Crimson Dynamo]

wont be watching

the government and the broadcast media are the virus

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lets have the Facts



[COVID
UK reports 1,239 additional Omicron cases - nearly
doubling previous daily high
Of the 3,137 Omicron cases that have now been
reported in the UK, 2,953 cases have been reported in England,
159 have been reported in Scotland,
15 in Wales and
10 in Northern Ireland.]


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-uk-reports-1-239-additional-omicron-cases-nearly-doubling-previous-daily-high-12494070

cases mean nothing

is anyone ill, are they going to hospital is all the facts we need

[Cherie]

What the hell is he going to do now...if he closes businesses there will be outright war ...

[MTVN]

Boris going live every time he's taken a battering in the media and needs to distract from it

[MTVN]

We're panicking more about Omicron than South Africa are

[arista]

Movies are fine, watch them. Just turn off the programmes taking about Covid. Which is most of them.


There is Other News
CNN HD Live in Tornado Twisters


Ch4HDnews had an expert saying that many in December
is wrong
The Warmer air temps longer now.

[bots]

there are now some omicron cases in uk hospitals, as we don't have an easy test to identify omicron. The likelihood is that 1000's currently have it so we have no idea what proportion need hospitalisation and what their vaccination status was

People will just ignore any further restrictions, they cant fine everyone

[arista]

there are now some omicron cases in uk hospitals, as we don't have an easy test to identify omicron. The likelihood is that 1000's currently have it so we have no idea what proportion need hospitalisation and what their vaccination status was

People will just ignore any further restrictions, they cant fine everyone


Yes, the Test has to go to a Lab.

[Alf]

What the hell is he going to do now...if he closes businesses there will be outright war ...Maybe outright war is the intention?

[Crimson Dynamo]

We're panicking more about Omicron than South Africa are

and they are 20% vaccinated

[thesheriff443]

Let’s all be honest boris is an embarrassment at this stage and needs to go

[bots]

These predictions of a million cases a day are insane

if that is accurate then in 2 months we can forget about covid for a while :laugh:

[arista]

Maybe outright war is the intention?


No
this is about boosters


8PM Live SkyNewsHD
LBC

[Crimson Dynamo]

The Government cannot help the fact that the world is now being confronted by the omicron variant, but it has to take responsibility for its failure to do enough to prepare one of the richest, most advanced countries for the oncoming storm.

No wonder so many voters, and, increasingly, back-bench MPs, ministers and Cabinet members, are cynical, angry and exhausted. Two years into this crisis, the authorities appear to have learnt little. The roll-out of third jabs (which appear to be vital in combating the variant) has proceeded far too slowly; bureaucratic errors continue to befuddle every move (with people unnecessarily turned away from vaccination walk-in centres); the Government has ordered far too few antiviral pills; and the process of working on and giving authorisation for new, improved vaccines is scandalously slow.

Just as bad has been the Government’s utter inability to increase the NHS’s capacity. This is extremely hard to do, granted, but why didn’t we spend the past year at least working on a plan for temporary, emergency field hospitals, perhaps staffed with retirees, volunteers and students?

The basic problem is that, while omicron, at present, appears less dangerous than previous variants, it spreads more rapidly, meaning that even if it sends a smaller proportion of the infected to hospital, this could be a very large number in real terms. That, at least, is the hypothesis (still not fully confirmed by data) that senior Government figures are working to. Hence their abject panic at the latest models, and why we are back to the prospect that our lives will be shut down – killing businesses, curtailing liberties and wrecking mental health – to “save” an NHS that, we are told, won’t be able to withstand a looming “tsunami” of hospitalisations.

This was more forgivable in early 2020 because Covid was new and the entire planet had been caught short. Britain had no domestic diagnostic industry, for a start, and the emergency procedures signed off by Jeremy Hunt were for the wrong kind of pandemic.

But why has the Government done so little since then to cope with the inevitability of fresh waves? Why is it falling back on restrictions yet again? Why is nobody sure where the gradual tightening of the rules will end? And does this mean that every new variant will overwhelm us, even when we are on to our fourth or fifth jabs? That would be a strange kind of society. The Government must be held to account for betraying its own earlier success. The world-leading vaccine roll-out was made possible by innovation – taking procurement out of the hands of the NHS, creating a brilliant public/private vaccine taskforce. Then the Government handed the operation back to the sainted NHS. After an initial period of apparent achievement, it lost momentum.

Why doesn’t the booster operation run 24/7? Are there lists of retired medical staff being actively recruited and directed to help?

The worst error of all must be the failure to produce and distribute enough antiviral pills. These can be taken at home, and, as long as Covid is detected quickly and the treatment starts promptly, are hugely effective. This would be the best way to reduce the pressure on the NHS as the pillsscould be delivered to homes or picked up at pharmacies – so why isn’t it happening? We need answers.

For all the vast sums spent, the massively increased NHS budget, and the endless boosterism, we are left playing a giant game of Russian roulette – gambling upon authoritarian measures, the healthcare system not collapsing, and the hope that the variants will eventually fizzle out to something resembling the cold. This is a shocking failure of policy. The Government must get its act together immediately.

[Crimson Dynamo]

and the top comment:

The Government is also being conned by juvenile modelling that is simply wrong. I can only conclude that the ‘scientists’ are now saying the vaccines were a total waste of time and effort. How else could they come up with such stupid numbers, more hospitalisations and 75,000 deaths? I also assume that they have totally discounted natural immunity
Surely these utterly useless modellers and scientists should be properly challenged by people with a proper grasp of numbers, then the truth can be reported to the British public. Why not ask an independent firm of accountants to report back on the models within a 48 hour period, it is not a difficult job for anyone with a good grasp of numbers? The reason is simple, the report would be scathing and the whole scam would collapse

[bots]

again, i saw a model yesterday predicting as many as 450,000 hospitalisations before march, but the model is just complete tosh, anyone with a brain knows they are exaggerating it for effect

[arista]

again, i saw a model yesterday predicting as many as 450,000 hospitalisations before march, but the model is just complete tosh, anyone with a brain knows they are exaggerating it for effect


Ignore the Guessing

[arista]

Any excuse for getting out of nappy changing duty.


No 8PM with his Science/Doctors team


Getting more public onto boosters
must be speeded up.

[arista]

[COVID UK's alert level raised to level 4 - second highest tier
- amid rapid increase in Omicron cases]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-uks-alert-level-raised-to-level-four-second-highest-tier-amid-rapid-increase-in-omicron-cases-12494268

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/12/12/11/51606987-10301259-image-a-36_1639309287667.jpg

[Alf]

Let’s all be honest boris is an embarrassment at this stage and needs to goAt least so far he hasn't gone to the extremes that some other countries leaders have. And for that reason, that's why they're pushing to get rid of him. They (the real masters) want someone in who will go to the extremes.

[MTVN]

[COVID UK's alert level raised to level 4 - second highest tier
- amid rapid increase in Omicron cases]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-uks-alert-level-raised-to-level-four-second-highest-tier-amid-rapid-increase-in-omicron-cases-12494268

Who even knew that the covid alert levels were still a thing

Pathetic

[arista]

Who even knew that the covid alert levels were still a thing

Pathetic


Look Facts are important.

So long as you can go to Pubs
you should be OK.

[arista]

Let’s all be honest boris is an embarrassment at this stage and needs to go

No,
General Election
vote your Starmer in.

[Zizu]

The country's four chief medical officers have recommended to ministers that the UK moves from level 3 to 4.
The CMOs warn
Omicron
is spreading much faster than Delta and there is less vaccine protection against symptomatic disease from the new variant.

They also said that people are already being treated in hospital due to Omicron and the number of patients is "likely to increase rapidly".


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[thesheriff443]

No,
General Election
vote your Starmer in.

No starmer is not the answer we need someone with half a brain in the Conservative party to take over

[MTVN]

Look Facts are important.

So long as you can go to Pubs
you should be OK.

Indeed I should, fingers crossed!

[MTVN]

Last Christmas eve I spent in tier 2 (which was lucky at the time tbf as most the country was tier 3) having to rush through pints over a miserable meal and being kicked out as soon as we'd finished our food at 10pm

Better be different this year

[arista]

No starmer is not the answer we need someone with half a brain in the Conservative party to take over


But they can not Win Elections

[Alf]

Look Facts are important.

So long as you can go to Pubs
you should be OK.The facts are that I don't need the government's permission to go to the pub. If I want to go to the pub, I go.

[Crimson Dynamo]

lol

covid alert level?

when did they make that bollocks up

:joker:

[Beastie]

Lockdown is going to be from January. Boris knows no one will listen at a Christmas lockdown.

[thesheriff443]

The facts are that I don't need the government's permission to go to the pub. If I want to go to the pub, I go.

Well you can’t if they close them

[arista]

The facts are that I don't need the government's permission to go to the pub. If I want to go to the pub, I go.


If things get Worse
you may have to show you have had all 3 Vaccinations
You have a Card
or Mobile Phone.

So all will be fine.

[thesheriff443]

But they can not Win Elections

Against labour anyone can win a they are messed up

[bots]

i think its the fact that Boris is a hypocritical, lying **** that has cost him the support of the general public and as a consequence of that, the party.

I heard Sunak is being lined up as a replacement, which i think would be better

[arista]

Against labour anyone can win a they are messed up


Sounds like a Gamble

[Beastie]

We are all going to die. No one cares anymore.

[arista]

i think its the fact that Boris is a hypocritical, lying **** that has cost him the support of the general public and as a consequence of that, the party.

I heard Sunak is being lined up as a replacement, which i think would be better



Yes a more Serious Politician.

[thesheriff443]

Sounds like a Gamble

Well the way boris is fcuking things up it’s a gamble people will take

[Alf]

Well you can’t if they close themWho closes them?

[arista]

We are all going to die. No one cares anymore.


No people care
if new restrictions are forced onto them.


Scotland has it more Strict,
than us in England

[Alf]

If things get Worse
you may have to show you have had all 3 Vaccinations
You have a Card
or Mobile Phone.

So all will be fine.Then we're fighting.

[thesheriff443]

We are all going to die. No one cares anymore.

You are too good looking to die

[thesheriff443]

Who closes them?

Government and the people that run them

[arista]

Then we're fighting.


Chuck you into a Covid infested Jail

[Alf]

We are all going to die. No one cares anymore.Don't worry, Trump has our backs. Just ride it out a bit longer.

[arista]

BBC1HD has inserted a 10mins BBCnews briefing


Will it only be 10mins?


No Press?

[bots]

no more rules to be announced, its going to be saying something like blah got their booster this week, go get your booster now blah

[arista]

ITV1HD has inserted a 5mins News for the PM

Will it only be 5mins

No Press?

[Alf]

Chuck you into a Covid infested JailAka A Gulag? That's the reason we'll be fighting. We don't want your Gulags in our country.

[arista]

no more rules to be announced, its going to be saying something like blah got their booster this week, go get your booster now blah


Yes booster Expansion
did it need a 8pm Sunday



ITV1HD 5mins

BBC1HD 10mins

Maybe it is prerecorded?

[bots]

lol

covid alert level?

when did they make that bollocks up

:joker:

its all colour coded


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/B3F0/production/_116346064_r_alert_level_v5_640-nc.png

[Alf]

Government and the people that run themI'll go to one where the landlord agrees with me. And what are the government gonna do? Send in the SS to beat us up?

[thesheriff443]

I'll go to one where the landlord agrees with me. And what are the government gonna do? Send in the SS to beat us up?

If people get paid not to go to work you will find it hard to find a place open

[Zizu]

The facts are that I don't need the government's permission to go to the pub. If I want to go to the pub, I go.


Not if they’re all closed down .,


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[Alf]

Not if they’re all closed down .,


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProSounds very totalitarian, is this what you support?

[arista]

Not if they’re all closed down .,




Yes that will
Shock Alf badly

All possible in
the next few months.

[Alf]

Yes that will
Shock Alf badly

All possible in
the next few months."Your name will also go on ze list, what is it?"

"Don't tell em' Alf"

[arista]

He is Seated in Downing St.

Recorded Address


He has brought the Booster programme
a Month ahead.

6mins long

[Vanessa]

Already had my booster

[Mystic Mock]

"Your name will also go on ze list, what is it?"

"Don't tell em' Alf"

:joker:

Tbh it sounds like an overreaction from our Government tbh, it's meant to be a more mild variant so it's making me laugh about all of this talk of a lockdown.

We've had worse variants that have had less of a reaction which just makes absolutely no sense to me, but then the illogical paths are the Human race's favourite paths to take so maybe it should make more sense.:joker:

[arista]

Already had my booster


Yes we are in the Better Club.

[bots]

:joker:

Tbh it sounds like an overreaction from our Government tbh, it's meant to be a more mild variant so it's making me laugh about all of this talk of a lockdown.

We've had worse variants that have had less of a reaction which just makes absolutely no sense to me, but then the illogical paths are the Human race's favourite paths to take so maybe it should make more sense.:joker:

its the rate of infection that is the problem, its doubling every 2-3 days, delta was every 5 days, so its spreads twice as fast, that means there will be an exponential increase and even if its a mild variant, there will still be a massive uptick in hospitalisations. So that's the problem. In a week or 2 there could be thousands more in hospital

[Mystic Mock]

i think its the fact that Boris is a hypocritical, lying **** that has cost him the support of the general public and as a consequence of that, the party.

I heard Sunak is being lined up as a replacement, which i think would be better

I don't like Boris and I find it disgusting that he is meant to be the leader of the UK.

However I think it's interesting how since 2016 the Tory leaders get claimed to be "incompetent" when they are 1. Being selected as a candidate to be the leader by the party itself. And 2. The public endorsing these people by electing them as PM. And I find it hard to believe that Cameron, May and Boris are all so incompetent because if that's the case then that would make me question the Tories more as they don't understand who would be a good leader within their own party, which sounds crazy to me.

I feel like whoever does replace Boris will also look like an idiot because whoever is the real issue within that party is not being removed.

[Mystic Mock]

its the rate of infection that is the problem, its doubling every 2-3 days, delta was every 5 days, so its spreads twice as fast, that means there will be an exponential increase and even if its a mild variant, there will still be a massive uptick in hospitalisations. So that's the problem. In a week or 2 there could be thousands more in hospital

To change the topic a little bit, this Pandemic time and time again keeps advertising the fact that we need to fund the NHS more.

Because if we're being honest if it was properly funded there wouldn't even be that much of a scare about the workers being overwhelmed by how many patients that they could potentially be dealing with.

[Vanessa]

I think everyone should get that booster. Then we will be protected.

[Zizu]

Sounds very totalitarian, is this what you support?


I have no worries either way but they did that last time and they seem to be more worried this time round


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[Crimson Dynamo]

To change the topic a little bit, this Pandemic time and time again keeps advertising the fact that we need to fund the NHS more.

Because if we're being honest if it was properly funded there wouldn't even be that much of a scare about the workers being overwhelmed by how many patients that they could potentially be dealing with.

that only works if it was well run

it isnt

[Alf]

I think everyone should get that booster. Then we will be protected.Some of us remember the time when we just needed the 2 vaccines to be protected. It now turns out that was a big fat lie.

[Beastie]

I'm having no booster. 2 was enough.

[bots]

Some of us remember the time when we just needed the 2 vaccines to be protected. It now turns out that was a big fat lie.

that's nonsense Alf, a booster was always on the table, right from the time the first vaccines were being given

[Zizu]

For those who have had no vaccine jabs at all I wonder what % of protection they will be afforded after just one , their first jab ??


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[Vanessa]

I waited 6 months to have my booster.

[Mystic Mock]

I think everyone should get that booster. Then we will be protected.

Tbh we won't see any real improvements until we get pills out that can treat Covid victims, have stronger Vaccines out on the market rather than the rush job of things like J & J and AstraZeneca. And if a Lockdown is gonna be enforced it needs to be done with the intention of weakening this disease by making the Lockdown last more than a couple of weeks.

[Cherie]

that's nonsense Alf, a booster was always on the table, right from the time the first vaccines were being given

.

[Mystic Mock]

that only works if it was well run

it isnt

Exactly.

In all of this chaos our pathetic Government still refuses to fund the NHS properly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tbh we won't see any real improvements until we get pills out that can treat Covid victims, have stronger Vaccines out on the market rather than the rush job of things like J & J and AstraZeneca. And if a Lockdown is gonna be enforced it needs to be done with the intention of weakening this disease by making the Lockdown last more than a couple of weeks.

lockdowns kick the can down the street they dont weaken anything

[arista]

The South African President now has Omicron Covid.

All media

[Alf]

that's nonsense Alf, a booster was always on the table, right from the time the first vaccines were being givenThe vaccine wasn't gonna be available for 3 years. It was only due to Trumps warp speed that that narrative had to be changed. Boosters didn't come into the narrative until this year

[bots]

For those who have had no vaccine jabs at all I wonder what % of protection they will be afforded after just one , their first jab ??


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nobody is protected unless they get a T cell boost basically, and that means that people will get infected and spread it even with the booster, because it's anti bodies that suppress the spread of the virus, T cells not so much. What we have done with the vaccines is basically move older and vulnerable people to a younger bodied demographic that is more capable of dealing with the virus. It's not the traditional vaccine treatment in that respect

[Mystic Mock]

lockdowns kick the can down the street they dont weaken anything

That's why really our most important breakthrough is if those Pills that Arista spoke about in the past end up being effective.

Hopefully it'd stop all of this Nineteen Eighty-Four-esque stuff that's being enforced right now.

[bots]

kicking the can down the street is something you want to do if its spreads rapidly, because it stops hospitals being swamped. The thing is we really don't know what the scale of the problem is yet or what % end up in hospital. I think Boris will be pressured into a lockdown situation within the next week or so, but people will basically tell him to f off. So what will be will be

[Alf]

When I go into my town centre it's still full of homeless people, the virus doesn't seem to effect those vulnerable people, infact they seem to be increasing in numbers. You can't walk 100 metres these days without someone begging for money.

The protesters are increasing in numbers all the time. You'd presume most of them are unvaxed, which should make them vulnerable, yet the numbers are increasing and not decreasing.

I trust what I see more than what I'm told.

[thesheriff443]

When I go into my town centre it's still full of homeless people, the virus doesn't seem to effect those vulnerable people, infact they seem to be increasing in numbers. You can't walk 100 metres these days without someone begging for money.

The protesters are increasing in numbers all the time. You'd presume most of them are unvaxed, which should make them vulnerable, yet the numbers are increasing and not decreasing.

I trust what I see more than what I'm told.

The vast majority are not homeless but scammers

[thesheriff443]

Anti Vaxers will on listen when a mutant strain comes along and kills virtually every unvaccinated person it infects

[Alf]

The former page 3 girl says more or less what I said earlier.

Just discovered Leilani on twitter, she's singing from the same hymn sheet as me. Smart girl.

1470108137873149954

[arista]

Anti Vaxers will on listen when a mutant strain comes along and kills virtually every unvaccinated person it infects



Yes could happen

[Alf]

Anti Vaxers will on listen when a mutant strain comes along and kills virtually every unvaccinated person it infectsI bet they're quaking in their boots

[thesheriff443]

I bet they're quaking in their boots

Fcuk them, they have a choice

And Alf for all that you say, people ain’t going to do sh1t protest on the street smash a few windows burn some cars but in the end the law will always win.

[Alf]

Fcuk them, they have a choice

And Alf for all that you say, people ain’t going to do sh1t protest on the street smash a few windows burn some cars but in the end the law will always win.In a democracy, the people make the law. We ain't The Chinese Communist party, yet.

[thesheriff443]

In a democracy, the people make the law.

And we have made it,the millions of vaccinated agree with the government so anti vaxers are out numbered

[Alf]

Get em' Steve!

Making his case to become the peoples leader.


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[Zizu]

The vast majority are not homeless but scammers


See I think that’s just another crazy conspiracy theory .. like “ things like motor cycle decapitations are classed as covid deaths “ ..

I’m sure there’s a few cheeky bar stewards taking advantage of our generosity but certainly not the majority

The ones near us look to be in a proper state and I always buy them some food and a bottle of water


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[thesheriff443]

See I think that’s just another crazy conspiracy theory .. like “ things like motor cycle decapitations are classed as covid deaths “ ..

I’m sure there’s a few cheeky bar stewards taking advantage of our generosity but certainly not the majority

The ones near us look to be in a proper state and I always buy them some food and a bottle of water


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Yes proper homeless look in a bad way but in the south east we not only English scammers but a lot of Eastern European.

It’s the scum that give genuine homeless people a bad name.

[Toy Soldier]

The former page 3 girl says more or less what I said earlier.


:skull:

[Alf]

:skull:Page 3 was a noble trade.

[Mystic Mock]

The vast majority are not homeless but scammers

It's a well known fact that homelessness is on the rise in the UK.

https://metro.co.uk/2021/12/09/more-than-274000-people-are-now-homeless-in-england-15740887/

[thesheriff443]

It's a well known fact that homelessness is on the rise in the UK.

https://metro.co.uk/2021/12/09/more-than-274000-people-are-now-homeless-in-england-15740887/

Numbers rise in every aspect of life
Numbers on paper or a computer screen differ from actual people on the streets

You can be made homeless by losing a private rental but then become the responsibility of a your local council

[Mystic Mock]

Numbers rise in every aspect of life
Numbers on paper or a computer screen differ from actual people on the streets

You can be made homeless by losing a private rental but then become the responsibility of a your local council

I suppose, it's just speaking from personal experience I feel like I see more homeless people in my local area nowadays than I did say 5 years ago.

[thesheriff443]

I suppose, it's just speaking from personal experience I feel like I see more homeless people in my local area nowadays than I did say 5 years ago.

Life is mo way fair mock

You have 6 people living in two rooms and you have two people living in mansions

There are thousands of properties that are sitting empty

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer

[arista]

It's a well known fact that homelessness is on the rise in the UK.

https://metro.co.uk/2021/12/09/more-than-274000-people-are-now-homeless-in-england-15740887/



Yes they were put into Hotels
at the start of Covid


Now sadly, not.

[arista]

[Get em' Steve!

Making his case to become the peoples leader.]

No Alf
he is not in the Cabinet
And they can all vote against it
Not a problem
Labour Party are Voting it all through on Tuesday.


I watched Steve
on Trevor Phillips Live. SkyNewsHD.

He is a Not Worthy.

[Mystic Mock]

Life is mo way fair mock

You have 6 people living in two rooms and you have two people living in mansions

There are thousands of properties that are sitting empty

The rich get richer and the poor get poorer

I suppose you're right.

It's just sad to see the UK crumbling like this, I know that we've been a messed up country for a few years now, but simple things like having a roof over your head should be a given right for everybody in this country.

But I understand that the reality is that we'll never achieve that or even try to, and to me that does suck that the world works that way.

[bots]

whichever way you look at it, its going to be an interesting run up to Christmas. The modellers are only looking a week or 2 into the future, so if they are talking complete rubbish they will be caught out very soon. We don't have long to wait

[joeysteele]

Listening to Javid this morning.
Quite frankly he may be just as bad or unbelievably worse than Hancock as Health Secretary.

[bots]

I think this is a good video, someone that knows what they are talking about and no agenda

m2vI4XczqZ8

[Crimson Dynamo]

Excellent video

[Nicky91]

BoJo needs a haircut badly :laugh2:

his hair is one big mess

[arista]

BoJo needs a haircut badly :laugh2:

his hair is one big mess


He does not care

[arista]

The Infrastructure
for one million a day vaccines
is not yet ready.

LBC :Live


Yet last night Johnson said we must
all get 3rd jab..........

[Alf]

I assume these boosters have to be the same as the two vaccines that people have already taken?

I mean, you can't take a Pfizer booster jab if you had the Astra vaccines, right? You have to take Astra boosters, right? Or is that wrong?

[Zizu]

Listening to Javid this morning.
Quite frankly he may be just as bad or unbelievably worse than Hancock as Health Secretary.


Hopefully he’s not giving million pound contracts to his mates


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[Zizu]

I assume these boosters have to be the same as the two vaccines that people have already taken?

I mean, you can't take a Pfizer booster jab if you had the Astra vaccines, right? You have to take Astra boosters, right? Or is that wrong?


Pretty sure the only boosters are Pfizer or Moderna ... regardless of the initial two vaccine jabs


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[arista]

If I was in charge
I would force all people to get the Vaccine
Except any that medically can not


The unvaccinated are filling our Hospitals

[Alf]

Pretty sure the only boosters are Pfizer or Moderna ... regardless of the initial two vaccine jabs


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProSo do they both do the same thing if you had the Astra vaccine, do they boost the Astra vaccine?

[bots]

the pfizer and moderna vaccines both do the same thing and are proven to boost the immunity levels up no matter what people had as their previous vaccine

[bots]

If I was in charge
I would force all people to get the Vaccine
Except any that medically can not


The unvaccinated are filling our Hospitals

but if people catch covid naturally and thats the way they want to do it, its the same as being vaccinated. As long as we have the bed capacity, its not a problem

[Strictly Jake]

Taking all politics out of it. And conspiracies out of it. Isn't it all just so sad. Remember the times when we wouldn't have to hear about vaccines or masks. Or social distancing and all of that. Kids growing up will think this is how life has always been. It's sad. My son is 2 in April and it seems like nothing is changing. Yes there was a step in the right direction with the vaccines initially and everything started opening up again but it's clear this isn't going away. I miss the old ways so much

[Toy Soldier]

but if people catch covid naturally and thats the way they want to do it, it's the same as being vaccinated.

This has been pretty conclusively shown not to be the case.

[Toy Soldier]

So do they both do the same thing if you had the Astra vaccine, do they boost the Astra vaccine?

They boost your immunity level, they don't "boost the vaccine". Vaccines don't stay in your system long term. They stay in your system for a few weeks while your immune system learns about them, and then your immune system destroys them.

I assume these boosters have to be the same as the two vaccines that people have already taken?

I mean, you can't take a Pfizer booster jab if you had the Astra vaccines, right? You have to take Astra boosters, right? Or is that wrong?

99%+ of all boosters are Pfizer (e.g. I had 2x AZ and Pfizer booster). The only reason someone would get an AZ booster is if they're allergic to something in Pfizer/Moderna.

[bots]

Taking all politics out of it. And conspiracies out of it. Isn't it all just so sad. Remember the times when we wouldn't have to hear about vaccines or masks. Or social distancing and all of that. Kids growing up will think this is how life has always been. It's sad. My son is 2 in April and it seems like nothing is changing. Yes there was a step in the right direction with the vaccines initially and everything started opening up again but it's clear this isn't going away. I miss the old ways so much

i think we have just been very fortunate, particularly as international travel has expanded over the last few decades, it's a miracle we didnt get hit with something bad before. At least now we have some decent tech to deal with it.

Kids get used to their environment very quickly, it will be no big deal to them one way or another

[bots]

Boris Johnson says that at least one patient has been confirmed to have died with Omicron in the UK.

Speaking during a visit to a vaccination clinic near Paddington, in west London, the PM says: "Sadly yes Omicron is producing hospitalisations and sadly at least one patient has been confirmed to have died with Omicron.

"So I think the idea that this is somehow a milder version of the virus, I think that's something we need to set on one side and just recognise the sheer pace at which it accelerates through the population. So the best thing we can do is all get our boosters."

[Zizu]

So do they both do the same thing if you had the Astra vaccine, do they boost the Astra vaccine?


Yep ... that’s the theory mate


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[Zizu]

Taking all politics out of it. And conspiracies out of it. Isn't it all just so sad. Remember the times when we wouldn't have to hear about vaccines or masks. Or social distancing and all of that. Kids growing up will think this is how life has always been. It's sad. My son is 2 in April and it seems like nothing is changing. Yes there was a step in the right direction with the vaccines initially and everything started opening up again but it's clear this isn't going away. I miss the old ways so much


That’s just how I feel ... we basically had it good before Covid but never appreciated it .

One of my main disappointments is that the latest data / evidence apparently suggests that the damn Covid-19 virus was indeed created in a Chinese laboratory :(

We had all that coming and going ( initially it was thought to be lab created then they blamed the Chinese markets) then whatever ..

So that’s tragic if true .


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[Cherie]

Boris Johnson says that at least one patient has been confirmed to have died with Omicron in the UK.

Speaking during a visit to a vaccination clinic near Paddington, in west London, the PM says: "Sadly yes Omicron is producing hospitalisations and sadly at least one patient has been confirmed to have died with Omicron.

"So I think the idea that this is somehow a milder version of the virus, I think that's something we need to set on one side and just recognise the sheer pace at which it accelerates through the population. So the best thing we can do is all get our boosters."

bloody amazing isn't it, no reports of anyone dying in SA with 20% vaccination rate but of course the UK has a death...

start giving us the facts about these deaths because too many deaths are being attributed to covid when they haven't died of covid at all

[bots]

bloody amazing isn't it, no reports of anyone dying in SA with 20% vaccination rate but of course the UK has a death...

start giving us the facts about these deaths because too many deaths are being attributed to covid when they haven't died of covid at all

if you watch the video i posted a little earlier - which i think everyone should watch - it says there were 10 deaths in SA up to 5th december

[Beso]

The patient who died could not have been a CONFIRMED case of omicrom.

[bots]

The patient who died could not have been a CONFIRMED case of omicrom.

sure they could, they do a test for it in hospital. We don't know if it was that that killed them of course .... incomplete info is as bad or worse than no info

The language is important. Dying with covid or dying from covid are not the same

[Cherie]

if you watch the video i posted a little earlier - which i think everyone should watch - it says there were 10 deaths in SA up to 5th december

I watched the first 15 minutes will watch the rest soon

[Lewismacfarlane]

I was worried yesterday I thought Christmas was getting cancelled

[Beso]

sure they could, they do a test for it in hospital. We don't know if it was that that killed them of course .... incomplete info is as bad or worse than no info

The language is important. Dying with covid or dying from covid are not the same

They are already backtracking on it.

[Strictly Jake]

I was worried yesterday I thought Christmas was getting cancelled

It could be building up to that though

[Crimson Dynamo]

It could be building up to that though

Lol they have zero credit in the bank to cancel anything

[arista]

Confirmed one Death
from Omicron Covid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59639007


10 in Hospital with it.

[Gusto Brunt]

Very convenient for Boris to make all this fuss about Covid again - just to cover up what he's been doing.

It's so obvious. Shame not many others can see through his ****e.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Confirmed one Death
from Omicron Covid.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59639007


10 in Hospital with it.

has died with the Omicron coronavirus variant

So it could have been a car accident or they fell of a ladder?

they died with virus present in body bit it was NOT the cause of death?

just like they died wearing trousers "Confirmed one Death
from wearing trousers"

[arista]

The Health Secretary
is Live on all 3 News Channels
in Parliament.

The NHS site for a vaccine booking
has crashed.

[arista]

There is a Shortage of Covid Home Tests
Its a matter of Restocking.

[joeysteele]

There is a Shortage of Covid Home Tests
Its a matter of Restocking.

The booking site for the boosters is or was apparently down too.
Due to demand it seems!!!

Why can't they prepare better for goodness sake.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jeremy Kyle is back on Talkradio

He was off with the Covids

He got the virus when he went to get his Booster


:skull:

[arista]

The booking site for the boosters is or was apparently down too.
Due to demand it seems!!!

Why can't they prepare better for goodness sake.


They say it will take a few days
to correct

[arista]

Jeremy Kyle is back on Talkradio

He was off with the Covids

He got the virus when he went to get his Booster


:skull:


I would put him on Ch5HD late night

[arista]

Very convenient for Boris to make all this fuss about Covid again - just to cover up what he's been doing.

It's so obvious. Shame not many others can see through his ****e.


I think the Covid Vaccine,
Booster, is above any Partygate.


It was just a 6mins broadcast
on BBC1HD and ITV1HD on a Sunday
as it was recorded.

[bots]

if 18 million people try and book an appointment in the one day, there wouldnt be many websites that would stand up to that strain. After all, Boris only announced it yesterday, they had no time to prepare

[arista]

Recorded 5Mins from Keir Starmer Labour Response
7PM
ITV1HD/BBC1HD
Saying get your Booster

We better not have LibDem leader tomorrow
He only has 12MP's
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberal_Democrats_(UK)

[Crimson Dynamo]

pDDiQSu9AQ4

[arista]

Tomorrow Scotland bringing in more Restrictions


Ref:STV1HD

[Strictly Jake]

Me and my wife have managed to book a booster for on Thurs

[arista]

Me and my wife have managed to book a booster for on Thurs


Thats Good News

[Crimson Dynamo]

Me and my wife have managed to book a booster for on Thurs

thats when im getting mine :hee:

[bots]

it takes between 1 and 2 weeks for the booster to provide maximum protection. My brother caught covid at the same time or near enough as he got his booster.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Tomorrow Scotland bringing in more Restrictions


Ref:STV1HD

She can try to but im afraid the uptake will be a lot lower than she may think

unless she can back it up with evidence (and guess what she aint got any)

[bots]

by the law of averages, if an infection is spreading massively across the country, then some people are going to die who have it, but it doesn't mean it was the primary cause. When they want to feed an agenda it's easy

[bots]

starmer is going to have to say that boris is a lying wee ****, but we should all trust him blindly in this ..... it's farcical