The EU - Referendum - 23rd of June 2016 - in or out?

[Cherie]

The original paperwork for the referendum referred to leaving the EU with a deal, leaving without a deal was not on the ballot

[Vanessa]

Its all such a mess!

[arista]

The original paperwork for the referendum referred to leaving the EU with a deal, leaving without a deal was not on the ballot


Of Course it would not be
as it was Leave
or Remain.

The Ballot can not be Complex



Many Lawyers say we leave without of deal
until the Law is changed

[Vanessa]

Its all such a mess! :facepalm:

[arista]

Its all such a mess!



Yes the PM
changed the deal
She alone Fecked it all UP


Meaningful Vote 3
her next plan

[Cherie]

Of Course it would not be
as it was Leave
or Remain.

The Ballot can not be Complex



Many Lawyers say we leave without of deal
until the Law is changed

Yes we can leave with no deal even if MPs vote against it, I wonder if the is what the ERG are banking on

[arista]

Yes we can leave with no deal even if MPs vote against it, I wonder if the is what the ERG are banking on



Yes it appears so.

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/03/brexit-solution-must-come-from-london-dutch-prime-minister-tells-british/

Brexit solution must come from London, our dutch PM has said


he is overall disappointed the british parliament again hasn't accepted the deal from PM May with EU

[arista]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2019/03/brexit-solution-must-come-from-london-dutch-prime-minister-tells-british/

Brexit solution must come from London, our dutch PM has said


he is overall disappointed the british parliament again hasn't accepted the deal from PM May with EU


Yes Gina Miller the Rich Business Bitch
set up all these UK Parliament votes.


Today is a Free Vote


Not just the Dutch , Nicky
all the EU leaders went on our TV News
saying we must sort it out first.
Nigel Farage spoke in Your EU Parliament
that clip has gone global, but he is a MEP
not part of the Conservative power.

Phillip Hammond (Spring Statement)
claims the country is doing fine?
Hints he will release more money
only if all back the PM's deal?
Market reviews are just a guess.........................

[arista]

John McDonnell MP Labour
the Shadow Chancellor of the Exchequer:


[13:35
History will hold you responsible for deaths, Hammond told
Nine years of austerity have created hardship for our constituents,
McDonnell says, calling the Conservatives' austerity policy a "political choice".
As the ex-shadow chief secretary who sat under George Osborne,
McDonnell says Hammond is culpable for that decision
"History will hold him responsible," he explains for every death because of people
waiting on a hospital appointment or lack of access to social care.]

[Twosugars]

Yes Gina Miller the Rich Business Bitch
set up all these UK Parliament votes.



not nice Arista :nono:

wasn't it about taking back control? that means power to parliament so what's the problem with parliament having a say?
not keen on democracy when it's not going your way?

[arista]

not nice Arista :nono:

wasn't it about taking back control? that means power to parliament so what's the problem with parliament having a say?
not keen on democracy when it's not going your way?


Folks like you want the 2nd Vote
but there is not enough MP's to push it.

Its not about going my way
The PM is at fault
she will be gone soon.

[arista]

Michael Gove MP
is taking the PM 's place
this afternoon

Due to her Loss of Voice

[Kazanne]

WE DON'T NEED TO FIGHT FOR BREXIT WE WON THAT FIGHT ,WE NEED TO FIGHT THE MPs WHO WONT DELIVER IT

[Twosugars]

you won based on lies leave politicians told, that doesn't count

[arista]

you won based on lies leave politicians told, that doesn't count


ON Both Sides
Lies

[arista]

Michael Gove MP is Live
The PM sitting next to him
her voice not good enough

[Twosugars]

ON Both Sides
Lies
if you say so
then we need to rerun the referendum

[arista]

if you say so
then we need to rerun the referendum

No it takes to long
Not Enough MP's want it

[Twosugars]

No it takes to long
Not Enough MP's want it

they'll come round to the idea
that's why we need a long extension
a period of reflection to come to our senses, rerun the ref and save the country

[Alf]

you won based on lies leave politicians told, that doesn't count
And George Osborne was one big truth teller, I suppose?

Oh no! The apocalypse will be upon us.

[arista]

they'll come round to the idea
that's why we need a long extension
a period of reflection to come to our senses, rerun the ref and save the country


Long - I doubt it


Keeping Brexit Going
will Damage the UK even more
so best to leave soon
and start a fresh.

[Twosugars]

Long - I doubt it


Keeping Brexit Going
will Damage the UK even more
so best to leave soon
and start a fresh.

no, best to stay in with our friends on the continent, together we are stronger
US, China, India etc will drive a hard bargain with the lonely UK, humiliating and damaging
They don't do that with EU bc it's too strong

[arista]

no, best to stay in with our friends on the continent, together we are stronger
US, China, India etc will drive a hard bargain with the lonely UK, humiliating and damaging
They don't do that with EU bc it's too strong


China is Going way down (Empty Buildings all over the place)
Nothing to do with Brexit.

They will trade with us in the UK.

[arista]

And George Osborne was one big truth teller, I suppose?

Oh no! The apocalypse will be upon us.



Yes loads of Lies

[Twosugars]

No lies, World Bank and OECD say the same, government projections say the same, Brexit for UK is damaging.
It's an ideological project. Boris famously summed it up saying "fook business"

[arista]

No lies, World Bank and OECD say the same, government projections say the same, Brexit for UK is damaging.
It's an ideological project. Boris famously summed it up saying "fook business"



Yes Boris is no longer a Minister
so he can feck off, himself

[Twosugars]

Yes Boris is no longer a Minister
so he can feck off, himself
If only, Arista
Tories want him as Prime Minister :eek:

[arista]

If only, Arista
Tories want him as Prime Minister :eek:


Not enough want him , now

[arista]

Tonight more votes
Ch4HD News 7PM Live from Westminster
BBC2HD 7PM News Special Vote Andrew Neil
SkyNewsHD 7PM Live from Westminster
LBC Radio 7PM Ian Dale Live in Westminster
CNN HD 7PM Live from Westminster.

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[Twosugars]

Not enough want him , now

not enough MPs, but grassroots love him

he even cut his hair to look less like a clown
but he's still a clown

[Sticks]

No lies, World Bank and OECD say the same, government projections say the same, Brexit for UK is damaging.
It's an ideological project. Boris famously summed it up saying "fook business"

PROJECT FEAR ON STEROIDS :nono:

[arista]

not enough MPs, but grassroots love him

he even cut his hair to look less like a clown
but he's still a clown



It does not change anything
that he has a Haircut.
He his not wanted
Many MP's would resign.

[Sticks]

Anyway our new leader will be Ree-Smog, so learn to tug your forelocks...

[arista]

Anyway our new leader will be Ree-Smog, so learn to tug your forelocks...


No he does not want that job.

[Twosugars]

Anyway our new leader will be Ree-Smog, so learn to tug your forelocks...
:hehe: that'd be hilarious: Smog as pm and Boris as a deputy
add Leadsom, Fox, Davies, Grayling, Priti Patel and we'll have the government of all the talents
:joker:

[Matthew.]

Anyway our new leader will be Ree-Smog

Yuck that’s a disgusting idea :umm2:

[Nicky91]

No Deal must get majority

[Twosugars]

Excellent commentary in the Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/13/theresa-may-deal-europe-eu-mps

[arista]

No Deal must get majority

Yes it could happen tonight

[arista]

Excellent commentary in the Guardian

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/13/theresa-may-deal-europe-eu-mps


Yes it is
Twosugars

[Nicky91]

Yes it could happen tonight

it could, but i do also agree with others they could just vote it off and going into the delay and possible new referendum

[arista]

Good on Jess Phillips Labour MP
who lives in a north area, who voted Leave
she voted remain , ignoring them.
She just said in Parliament "they can vote me out"
At least she is honest

[TomC]

Is the vote at 7pm?

[arista]

Is the vote at 7pm?


Yes


Tonight more votes
Ch4HD News 7PM Live from Westminster
BBC2HD 7PM News Special Vote Andrew Neil
SkyNewsHD 7PM Live from Westminster
LBC Radio 7PM Ian Dale Live in Westminster
CNN HD 7PM Live from Westminster.

[Twosugars]

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/mar/13/cake-unicorns-brexit-zealots

Hypnotised by cake and unicorns, the Brexit perfectionists have blown it
Oliver Norgrove
Two clear chances to leave the EU have been squandered in dogged pursuit of an immaculate Brexit
• Oliver Norgrove worked on the Vote Leave campaign
Wed 13 Mar 2019 MT


The result of yesterday’s meaningful vote in the House of Commons, much like the first in January, was emblematic of a very striking Brexit reality: that the principle barrier to leaving the EU comes from the very people most desperate to see it happen.

The Tory right have had two clear chances to push Brexit over the line, two clear chances that were squandered in dogged pursuit of a “perfect” vision of Brexit. What makes their intransigence all the more useless is their collective inability to produce any worthwhile negotiating alternative. What we have witnessed is an exercise in prioritising ideology over what is best for the country.

The hardliners, persistent in their belief that the UK would in the end be afforded special treatment by the EU, have served only to undermine the very mandate they seek to protect. They have spent months shifting the negotiating goalposts and conjuring up unsatisfactory plans not worth the paper they were written on.

The failure of the UK’s political system should also not be ignored. We fought a referendum as if it were a general election, with a campaign acting like a potential government. We triggered article 50 without even the faintest semblance of a plan. And we failed to properly understand the nature of EU third country operations and why the Brexit talks were never going to be standard negotiations.

The Northern Ireland issue in particular stands as strong evidence of this. Had we thought more about how we could plan our EU departure around the Good Friday agreement and cross-border relations, we might not have found ourselves so stuck. But the cavalier way the Irish border was dismissed is a symptom of a problem much wider than Brexit.

For years, Britain simply hasn’t paid enough attention to Northern Ireland. It has at times been treated like an unwanted son, with its appalling levels of poverty – some of the worst in the country – not even registering a blip on Britain’s political radar. Brexit’s collapse is in part a manifestation of this very serious problem.

And so the end result of the current parliamentary logjam is that Brexit is pretty much unworkable. There exists no majority for any particular outcome, and neither another referendum nor another general election can claim to be silver bullet solutions to this constitutional crisis.

What happens now is a matter of speculation. It is perhaps possible to imagine a scenario in which the Brexit deadline of 29 March is extended to 22 May, just shy of the date on which the next round of European parliamentary elections will be held. The prime minister may try to bring her deal back, but it is unlikely she will escape the claws of the Commons. Her deal cannot and will never meet with the approval of a majority of parliamentary interests.

All this should be seen as domestic incompetence. The EU has, from day one, been reasonably accommodating and consistent in its vision for where negotiations would lead. Both sides agreed to the sequencing, both sides agreed to the inclusion of a backstop within the withdrawal agreement. Both sides tried their hardest to obey referendum-induced red lines, which in the end proved impossible to square.

The cold, hard fact of Brexit is that the hardliners poked and pushed so hard that they eventually rendered their dream unrealisable. Any and all leave voters ought to feel let down and disappointed by their actions. When opportunities for leaving presented themselves, hardliner MPs blocked them off.

In the end, the hard Brexiteer perfectionists bedazzled by cake and unicorns proved to be the obstacle that Brexit itself could not hurdle.

• Oliver Norgrove is a former Vote Leave staffer, and student in elections, campaigns and democracy

[Twosugars]

Leading Eurosceptics are lobbying right-of-centre governments in Europe to see if they would veto a British extension of article 50 and so ensure the UK drops out of the EU at the end of the month without a deal.

In theory, only one country is required to wield its veto for any British request to be rejected.

Farage and co trying to cause a no deal brexit, fook the country
unbelieveable

[reece(:]

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[arista]

[19:01
First up, they are voting on amendment A

This calls for MPs to reject leaving without a deal in any circumstance.

There was confusion earlier, as Caroline Spelman,
one of the MPs who moved it, said she
wanted to withdraw it.
But Yvette Cooper, one of the signatories,
said she wanted it to be put to a vote.]

[arista]

Yes: 312
No:308


It won by 4 votes

[reece(:]

Amendment passed of No deal at all rejected :clap1:

[bots]

there will be some resignations as some tories have gone against the government

[reece(:]

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[arista]

Vote F Malthouse

Yes :164
No:374


Defeated by 210

[reece(:]

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[arista]

Yes : 321
No : 278

On a Deal.

[reece(:]

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[bots]

May wont sack anyone given that the vote is not legally binding

[reece(:]

May trying to get her deal to pass a THIRD time?

What happened to the backlash about voting again on something after getting the result you didn't desire? :fan:

[bots]

May trying to get her deal to pass a THIRD time?

What happened to the backlash about voting again on something after getting the result you didn't desire? :fan:

parliament will have to accept may's deal now or kill article 50. That's what tonights vote really means. I don't fancy being an MP if they kill article 50

[arista]

The Vote Tomorrow is at 5PM


Ref: Adam Boulton
SkyNewsHD

[reece(:]

parliament will have to accept may's deal now or kill article 50. That's what tonights vote really means. I don't fancy being an MP if they kill article 50
So hard border via no deal or Northern Ireland being stuck in the backstop via May's deal?

[bots]

So hard border via no deal or Northern Ireland being stuck in the backstop via May's deal?

parliament .... and that means all of them, can't in good faith allow a no deal scenario, which means they either vote for a deal or revoke article 50. The EU have said they wont renegotiate, but reality is they may move a little, but it will still be May's deal 99.99%

Just to be clear, revoking article 50 means we don't leave

[Glenn.]

Just to be clear, revoking article 50 means we don't leave

We were always heading for this regardless of the result of the referendum anyway lbr

[MTVN]

Meaningful vote 3 let's go!

[bots]

Meaningful vote 3 let's go!

Meaningful vote 3 is next week, so there is a possibility of a meaningful vote 4 :laugh:

[Twosugars]

parliament .... and that means all of them, can't in good faith allow a no deal scenario, which means they either vote for a deal or revoke article 50. The EU have said they wont renegotiate, but reality is they may move a little, but it will still be May's deal 99.99%

Just to be clear, revoking article 50 means we don't leave
there's also the option to extend, for 2 months or 2 years
and either get May's deal passed within 2 months or ask for 2 years and either start from scratch and negotiate soft brexit with labour or go for 2nd ref

[Twosugars]

but the trick she pulled today following the spellman amendment was nasty
only last night she said she'd be voting for scrapping no deal
the bitch didn't specify she'd only vote for it without the spellman amendment
so when it got passed she made a u turn and voted for no deal to be kept and whipped others
this is all a game for them

[reece(:]

Miss Soubry said it perfectly earlier on the BBC, May is a robot running out of battery with tin ears, stubbornly focused on forcing her dead deal through.. pandering to the ERG when she should be reaching across the house

[Scarlett.]

It's all ****ed
We're ****ed
****

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Rob!]

Omg as if she's making them do a third vote on the same deal :laugh2:

[reece(:]

An old rule means Bercow could take drastic action on Brexit

John Bercow is an unusual speaker in that we know what he thinks. As someone uncharitably once said: "We've never had a speaker who has spoken quite so much."

But on Wednesday, in yet another typically mellifluous performance, something stood out.

In response to a question from senior Labour backbencher Angela Eagle, about whether it is in order within the rules of the House of Commons for a motion to be brought back repeatedly even when it has been rejected, Mr Bercow had something interesting to say.

He told her: "No answer is required now but a ruling will be made about that matter at the appropriate time. I'm grateful to the right honourable lady for reminding me a ruling might be required."

The speaker sounded as if he relished the prospect, and some MPs relish it even more. Because theoretically, John Bercow might be able to prevent yet another vote on the PM's deal, given it has been decisively rejected by the House already.

On paper, the principle is actually quite clear. According to the Commons' rule book "Erskine May", there is a clear precedent that a matter, once decided upon by MPs, cannot be considered again in the same session of parliament (which usually lasts a year - this current session has gone on for longer and will expire in the summer).

Buried deep within on page 397, there lies: "A motion or an amendment which is the same, in substance, as a question which has been decided during a session may not be brought forward again during that same session."

It continues: "Whether the second motion is substantively the same as the first is a matter for the chair."

In principle then, it would be in John Bercow's gift to say that parliament has voted on a matter already and whether a second, third or fourth iteration is sufficiently different to merit further consideration.

As Catherine Haddon of the Institute for Government said: "In the end, it's the speaker's discretion. Though he should follow the will of the House."

There's clearly a scenario where Mr Bercow says the will of the House is not to consider this again.

He could say that he permitted the second vote because, as a result of the renegotiation the government had made on the Irish backstop, the motion was sufficiently different.

If the government has made no further changes (given the EU has said negotiations are completely over, that seems likely) then that would provide the circumstances where Mr Bercow might legitimately refuse.

More: https://news.sky.com/story/amp/an-ancient-rule-means-bercow-could-take-drastic-action-on-brexit-11664555

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[Sticks]

No deal hard brexit it is by default

rejoice!!!!!

[bots]

there's also the option to extend, for 2 months or 2 years
and either get May's deal passed within 2 months or ask for 2 years and either start from scratch and negotiate soft brexit with labour or go for 2nd ref

they can't start from scratch as the EU will not renegotiate the deal, bare in mind this is all a large distraction for them, they want it over.

They could get an extension, but only if it is to achieve something, like another referendum or such.

It's quite possible that the MP's wont want to take the decision to kill article 50 on their own ... and make it the choice of the people, but I think the ref will be accept May's deal or revoke article 50 .... if it gets to that .... so its basically the same choice, made either by the public or by MP's

[Northern Monkey]

It seems that while the majority in Parliament is to remain.We will never leave.Parliament vs the people.Parliament will win.
Unless no extension is granted by the EU and we go to WTO by default.
Can’t see that happening though.The EU however much they play hardball,don’t want no deal.
I do think those MP’s who are going against their own constituents ought to be ashamed of themselves tbh and i’d hope that it’s reflected in the next GE.

[bots]

It seems that while the majority in Parliament is to remain.We will never leave.Parliament vs the people.Parliament will win.
Unless no extension is granted by the EU and we go to WTO by default.
Can’t see that happening though.The EU however much they play hardball,don’t want no deal.
I do think those MP’s who are going against their own constituents ought to be ashamed of themselves tbh and i’d hope that it’s reflected in the next GE.

labour stood up and said it opposed May's deal because of the backstop, because it could allow the UK to be drawn in to a customs union indefinitely. What they want, is labours deal that, guess what, includes membership of the customs union. If that's not playing politics, I don't know what is.

[arista]

The vote today 5PM

SkyNewsHD Live 5pm
Ch5HD 5PM News
BBC2HD 4:45PM Hugh Edwards Live at Westminster
LBC Eddie Mair Live 4PM
Radio 5 Live at Westminster 4PM

[Northern Monkey]

labour stood up and said it opposed May's deal because of the backstop, because it could allow the UK to be drawn in to a customs union indefinitely. What they want, is labours deal that, guess what, includes membership of the customs union. If that's not playing politics, I don't know what is.

I don’t think Labour have had it’s own position on Brexit.They just seem to be taking whichever position is against the government at the time.
Customs union,general election,second referendum they’ve basically said they want anything other than whatever the government offer.

[Cherie]

I don’t think Labour have had it’s own position on Brexit.They just seem to be taking whichever position is against the government at the time.
Customs union,general election,second referendum they’ve basically said they want anything other than whatever the government offer.

I heard a very good summation of Labour the other day

Corbyn is leave in the North and remain in the South :joker:

[Smithy]

Omg as if she's making them do a third vote on the same deal :laugh2:

So she gets 3 votes and the public only get one :eyes:

[bots]

The amendments for todays vote ... note item h, which is on a new ref

Amendment (h) – Cross-party Remainers

This amendment requests an extension of Article 50 in order to have another referendum.

Amendment (i) – Benn/Cooper

This amendment, which has lots of cross party support, would allow MPs to take control of parliamentary business next Wednesday (20 March).

They would use the time to debate a Brexit motion that could lead to Parliament holding a series of indicative votes on different Brexit options, possibly the following week.

He adds that there has been a 'manuscript' amendment tabled to this, which will be published shortly.

Amendment (e) – Labour frontbench

This amendment rejects the PM’s deal and the idea of leaving without a deal.

It also calls for an extension to Brexit talks to “provide parliamentary time for this House to find a majority for a different approach”.

Amendment (j) – Bryant/Brake

This amendment orders the government not to put its Brexit deal to another vote, citing parliamentary rules.

[Niamh.]

So she gets 3 votes and the public only get one :eyes:

:hehe:

[reece(:]

Hope they all pass

[Northern Monkey]

Is Bercow being biased again?

12:18

Bercow challenged over blocking vote on ruling out another referendum

Tory Brexiteer Mark Francois had just stood up to complain about which amendments Bercow has picked - and which he hasn't.

He wants Amendment B - which would block a Brexit delay being sought so another referendum could be held - to be voted on later too.

Francois says it has "far more signatories" than most of the others and is cross-party

[Cherie]

So she gets 3 votes and the public only get one :eyes:

what a joke

[arista]

So she gets 3 votes and the public only get one :eyes:


You Forget Smithy
we were Told over and over again
that it was a once in a lifetime vote in 2016
Once only.


Fecking Cameron
even dragged in the USA then President
telling him what to say



FACT

[bots]

Is Bercow being biased again?

12:18

Bercow challenged over blocking vote on ruling out another referendum

Tory Brexiteer Mark Francois had just stood up to complain about which amendments Bercow has picked - and which he hasn't.

He wants Amendment B - which would block a Brexit delay being sought so another referendum could be held - to be voted on later too.

Francois says it has "far more signatories" than most of the others and is cross-party

it had more signatures associated with it than all the other amendments combined.

However, the governments default is to not have another ref so it is actually the status quo at the present time (14th March 13:26 :laugh:)

[Twosugars]

they can't start from scratch as the EU will not renegotiate the deal, bare in mind this is all a large distraction for them, they want it over.

They could get an extension, but only if it is to achieve something, like another referendum or such.

It's quite possible that the MP's wont want to take the decision to kill article 50 on their own ... and make it the choice of the people, but I think the ref will be accept May's deal or revoke article 50 .... if it gets to that .... so its basically the same choice, made either by the public or by MP's

oh yes they can start from scratch if they requested a soft brexit (in agreement with corbyn); that's a completely different proposition and would be favoured by the eu too
all the economic issues including Irish border would not apply as we'd remain in the single market and the customs union

[bots]

oh yes they can start from scratch if they requested a soft brexit (in agreement with corbyn); that's a completely different proposition and would be favoured by the eu too

it wouldn't get support in parliament, because it ties us to the EU in so many areas. We would be better not leaving.

There is no consensus in this, that's the problem, and there never will be

[Twosugars]

it wouldn't get support in parliament, because it ties us to the EU in so many areas. We would be better not leaving.

There is no consensus in this, that's the problem, and there never will be

it would: a good chunk of tories and most of labour and snp would vote for it

that's been the problem from the start for May: she chose to appease hard brexiteers rather than seek consensus with the opposition which would give her the numbers
the downside of that for her is that tories would probably split as a party bc of that
so again she chose the party over the country
that's why she deserves no sympathy

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[Scarlett.]

No deal hard brexit it is by default

rejoice!!!!!

Bring on them medicine and food shortages :dance::dance::dance::dance: Can't wait for that social unrest :dance::dance::dance::dance:

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neither labour or the tories can enforce their sides to do anything, so while it may seem like a non starter ... who knows :laugh:

[Cherie]

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[Alf]

Is Bercow being biased again?

12:18

Bercow challenged over blocking vote on ruling out another referendum

Tory Brexiteer Mark Francois had just stood up to complain about which amendments Bercow has picked - and which he hasn't.

He wants Amendment B - which would block a Brexit delay being sought so another referendum could be held - to be voted on later too.

Francois says it has "far more signatories" than most of the others and is cross-partyIs he still cucking his wife out to Paddy Doherty?

[Twosugars]

I do hope Bercow scuppers this third vote :laugh:

[Cherie]

Donald Trump has said a second Brexit referendum would be "unfair" before launching an extraordinary attack on Theresa May's handing of negotiations.

It came just hours after her tweeted his administration was looking forward to "negotiating a large scale Trade Deal with the UK" - after reportedly being lobbied to do so by Nigel Farage.

The former Ukip leader is said to have asked the American president to support the UK leaving the EU without a deal during a meeting in Washington this month.


Mind you own business :idc: No one else to offload you sub standard food to?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-brexit-theresa-may-second-referendum-us-trade-deal-negotiation-a8823026.html

[bots]

Donald Trump has said a second Brexit referendum would be "unfair" before launching an extraordinary attack on Theresa May's handing of negotiations.

It came just hours after her tweeted his administration was looking forward to "negotiating a large scale Trade Deal with the UK" - after reportedly being lobbied to do so by Nigel Farage.

The former Ukip leader is said to have asked the American president to support the UK leaving the EU without a deal during a meeting in Washington this month.


Mind you own business :idc: No one else to offload you sub standard food to?

He also said that he predicted the result of the ref the day before, but it was in fact the day after :joker:

[Wizard.]

Crazy how Labour came out as having a second referendum as a policy then when an amendment comes out for a second referendum they vote against it. Absolute madness.

[Northern Monkey]

Is he still cucking his wife out to Paddy Doherty?

Order! Order! Please begin proceedings:joker:

[MTVN]

Whether Labour had supported the amendment or not is irrelevant as that vote shows there is a majority against a second referendum

[arista]

2 Votes Lost


Wollaston
Yes 85
No 334


And

Hilary Benn's amendment,
Yes 311
No 314

[17:34
25 Labour MPs rebel to back second referendum]

[reece(:]

Crazy how Labour came out as having a second referendum as a policy then when an amendment comes out for a second referendum they vote against it. Absolute madness.

It was abstain not vote against

They tabled the ref amendment far too early imo.

[Wizard.]

It was abstain not vote against

They tabled the ref amendment far too early imo.

But they have even came out and said that they aren't supporting a second referendum :skull: we thought May's U-Turn's were hilarious :joker:

[reece(:]

But they have even came out and said that they aren't supporting a second referendum :skull: we thought May's U-Turn's were hilarious :joker:
I agree it's ridiculous but they actually said it's one of their later down the road options

they're all over the place just like most of parliament which is why I want this cross party agreement

[James]

There seems to be a lot of votes against things at the moment, and not much in favour of anything at the moment.

[arista]

Benn Vote.


Yes:312
No:314

[reece(:]

Ugh Benn amendment was so close :/

[arista]

Corbyn vote lost.


Yes:302
No: 318

[arista]

Yes: 412
No: 202

The one win Gov. Motion to Extend the date article 50


New Date Sunday 30 June 11PM

[bots]

Thought it was funny Corbyn calling for a peoples vote when he had just ordered his party to abstain from the vote for it :laugh:

Labour are in just as big a mess as the tories.

[arista]

Of Course some UK Local Elections in May


And Eu Elections also in May Month

[Twosugars]

Yes: 412
No: 202

The one win Gov. Motion to Extend the date article 50


New Date Sunday 30 June 11PM

if her deal gets through
if not, longer

[Underscore]

Corbyn should be absolutely disgusted. Pictures can speak a thousand words.

https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/53681360_10109709532211460_571796486539444224_o.jp g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=dcace185597e0775fccb4ce798d89c8c&oe=5D134600

[Scarlett.]

The whole government is no longer fit for use. Party politics ahead of the wellbeing of millions of people. Makes me sick. **** Labour and **** the Tories, useless bunch, Brexit has done one good thing, it's highlighted how ****ing terrible both parties are. Two years of wasted bull****.

[bots]

Corbyn should be absolutely disgusted. Pictures can speak a thousand words.

https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/53681360_10109709532211460_571796486539444224_o.jp g?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&oh=dcace185597e0775fccb4ce798d89c8c&oe=5D134600

How do you work that out? Corbyn demanded his MP's not vote on the referendum amendment. Thats what that picture shows

[Underscore]

How do you work that out? Corbyn demanded his MP's not vote on the referendum amendment. Thats what that picture shows

I'm saying he should be disgusted he whipped to abstain.

[Sticks]

Just because May has permission to ask, does not mean she will get it.

It will take just on of the 27 to veto it, and already our hero Farage is hard at work lobbying those countries to ensure there will be no extension

HARD NO DEAL BREXIT HERE WE COME :spin2: :colour: :dance:

[Vicky.]

The whole government is no longer fit for use. Party politics ahead of the wellbeing of millions of people. Makes me sick. **** Labour and **** the Tories, useless bunch, Brexit has done one good thing, it's highlighted how ****ing terrible both parties are. Two years of wasted bull****.

Quite. What a **** show.

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/GTWBOXU8-e7HqOrX4pvkdA/https/d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/b3GFJLJoTR2Tw3ZNfWoZ_ft%20fri.JPG

[Nicky91]

Just because May has permission to ask, does not mean she will get it.

It will take just on of the 27 to veto it, and already our hero Farage is hard at work lobbying those countries to ensure there will be no extension

HARD NO DEAL BREXIT HERE WE COME :spin2: :colour: :dance:

:clap1: :clap1:

hope EU kicks out britain without a deal or delay

[arista]

:clap1: :clap1:

hope EU kicks out britain without a deal or delay


But that effects their markets

[Nicky91]

But that effects their markets

we already are preparing ourselves for that ''no deal brexit'' and our dutch PM is frustrated a lot, how british parliament confuses them by first rejecting may's deal, then rejecting no deal and now rejecting delay

[arista]

we already are preparing ourselves for that ''no deal brexit'' and our dutch PM is frustrated a lot, how british parliament confuses them by first rejecting may's deal, then rejecting no deal and now rejecting delay

Yes so is Germany.

Nothing wrong with a back up plan.


Of Course loads of MP's
are trying to stop No Deal.

[Vicky.]

Nothing wrong with a back up plan.



Every large decision should have a backup plan really.

I still cannot get over Cameron doing the referendum then leaving as the result was not what he had expected, AND there being no ****ing plan if leave won. Thats actually shocking. And not learning from their mistakes, May then triggered article 50 without a bloody plan.

[arista]

Every large decision should have a backup plan really.

I still cannot get over Cameron doing the referendum then leaving as the result was not what he had expected, AND there being no ****ing plan if leave won. Thats actually shocking. And not learning from their mistakes, May then triggered article 50 without a bloody plan.


Yes before the Vote Result Cameron
was asked in Parliament loads of times
by UKIP MP's and Other MP's
"Will he implement the result of
a Win to leave the EU"

He said one word "YES"


Also Corbyn demanded Article 50 to be triggered

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1pg7LRXQAECDl2.jpg

[Northern Monkey]

Every large decision should have a backup plan really.

I still cannot get over Cameron doing the referendum then leaving as the result was not what he had expected, AND there being no ****ing plan if leave won. Thats actually shocking. And not learning from their mistakes, May then triggered article 50 without a bloody plan.

Can’t argue with that.

I actually think Cameron was very short sighted.
I think a big part of the leave vote winning was after Cameron went on his ‘European tour’ to try and improve our relationship with them and the EU gave him next to nothing.It showed that they are hard headed and care more about the EU brand than it’s member states as individuals.
It’s one size fits all approach doesn’t suit every country.The public saw this and it contributed to the UK’s negative image of the organisation.
Even most remainers start their sentences with “well the EU isn’t perfect but...”
This put remain at a disadvantage and a more astute prime minister could have forseen this.

[Twosugars]

It's not one size fits all. UK has got many exemptions from EU, so don't tell tales, NM.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D1ygG3CXgAAKPLR.jpg

[Twosugars]

bet it's mostly old farts

[Cherie]

bet it's mostly old farts

doesn't look like that from the photo?

[Cherie]

The Marchers are being followed by the Led by Donkeys campaign :fan:



https://airoutdoor.co.uk/blog/led-by-donkeys-brexit-billboard-campaign/

:clap1:

[Twosugars]

doesn't look like that from the photo?

stuck them up front for the photo :idc:

[Cherie]

stuck them up front for the photo :idc:

Maybe, I read there were only 200 at it

[Wizard.]

Maybe, I read there were only 200 at it

The limit was 200 for the march. An actual protest is happening on the 29th of March.

[arista]

Corbyn The Labour Leader
is Live on Ridge SkyNewsHD
now

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/Dsf7SuQgn-nB9ByFWvGsBg/https/d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/V57HdDocQIm7XJMdS7jA_sundaytimes.JPG

Sticks looks like we are not to going to leave
If this Paper has it Correct.....................................

[Nicky91]

ffs UK, if you guys aren't leaving then thanks for wasting the EU's time

:notimpressed:

[arista]

Also that 3rd time vote
on Tuesday may not go ahead.

Hammond on Marr BBC1HD
said it will only go ahead if they think
they have enough votes.

[arista]

ffs UK, if you guys aren't leaving then thanks for wasting the EU's time

:notimpressed:



It was the Current Prime Minister
and Ollie Robbins (Civil Servant)
that wasted everyone's time,
the Backstop was their idea.


So 2 People
are at Fault

[Nicky91]

29th March UK leaves on a no deal brexit :dance2:

[arista]

John Bercow has now blocked The PM from voting again
on her same deal....................
Live In Parliament.


https://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-warned-she-cannot-hold-another-vote-on-same-brexit-deal-11669533



The PM is due to go the EU Council on Thursday

[Smithy]

Ahahahahaha SUFFER BITCH!

[Scarlett.]

Good, it was ridiculous to even bring up the idea of a third 'meaningful' vote

[Sticks]

It has now been confirmed officially

WE ARE LEAVING THE EU WITH A NO DEAL HARD BREXIT :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2: :cheer2::cheer2: :cheer2::dance::dance::dance::dance::dance: :colour: :colour: :colour: :colour: :colour: :colour: :colour: :hello::hello::hello::hello::hello::hello: :thumbs: :thumbs: :thumbs:

Just think of this new golden age of prosperity with £350m a week for the NHS at the very least.

[Scarlett.]

Where is this officially confirmed?

[Sticks]

Where is this officially confirmed?

See Arista's last post

[Scarlett.]

There's no official confirmation of a no deal Brexit next week in that article.

[Twosugars]

John Bercow has now blocked The PM from voting again
on her same deal....................
Live In Parliament.


https://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-warned-she-cannot-hold-another-vote-on-same-brexit-deal-11669533



The PM is due to go the EU Council on Thursday

:D

[Smithy]

Where is this officially confirmed?

He’s taking the piss :joker:

[Sticks]

There's no official confirmation of a no deal Brexit next week in that article.

May can not bring her deal back for a third vote

It is the only Deal the EU are offering and they have run out of patience so no extensions are being granted.

By law we leap victoriously next Friday, unfettered by any scuzzy deals

rejoice :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

There will be a new age of prosperity and plenty of jobs building that new hard border wall across Northern Ireland.

We can also scrap that unconditional surrender to the IRA, called the Good Friday (We the UK Government surrender to the IRA and all men of Blood and promise to give in to terrorist blackmail at the first opportunity) Agreement

[Scarlett.]

He’s taking the piss :joker:

I hope so, but you can never tell with people these days :laugh:

[smudgie]

It’s all a ruddy mess.
No voting on her deal, can’t see EU rolling over for her, so no deal could be the answer.
Unless we just go on and on with it all indefinitely :shrug:

[Sticks]

We can't

By law and default we leave next Friday

And it is a NO DEAL HARD BREXIT

Rejoice

:dance: :cheer2: :thumbs: :banana: :cheer:

[user104658]

We can't



By law and default we leave next Friday



And it is a NO DEAL HARD BREXIT



Rejoice



:dance: :cheer2: :thumbs: :banana: :cheer:This is incorrect sticks, if the UK parliament votes to revoke the triggering of article 50 then we can do so at any time up until withdrawal. This was confirmed in the EU courts in December.

[Sticks]

Wrong

That requires primary legislation to do that, for which there is now no time left

Hard Brexit here we come- Enjoy those sunny golden uplands and a new golden age of prosperity. Looking forward to all those jobs created as Brits fill jobs once done by EU nationals and as we build a new physical hard border wall across Northern Ireland. (I heard that Trump is offering to help us get Mexico to pay for it as well :thumbs: )

[Alf]

You have fifteen minutes to help old Alf to get through in the Tibb on Ice.

Go get voting

[Twosugars]

Wrong

That requires primary legislation to do that, for which there is now no time left

Hard Brexit here we come- Enjoy those sunny golden uplands and a new golden age of prosperity. Looking forward to all those jobs created as Brits fill jobs once done by EU nationals and as we build a new physical hard border wall across Northern Ireland. (I heard that Trump is offering to help us get Mexico to pay for it as well :thumbs: )
:laugh: poor Mexico

[Vanessa]

This is all such a big mess. I can't even :facepalm:

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/NlMDcldr6ZgKWhqLUoq8WQ/https/d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/4GkrJxljQSG9YWGTIPOf_dailyexpress.JPG

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[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/jo3HI6fB6mY47hQJXT68Fw/https/d2kmm3vx031a1h.cloudfront.net/tKIO6CyeSCyJBFQLG1gD_bercow.JPG

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[Sticks]

He has not wrecked Brexit

He has once and for all ensured that we leave with No Deal next Friday as the law states :hello: :dance:

[bots]

What it more than likely means is that May will have to request a long extension rather than a short one. the government can still challenge the speaker too, I would imagine their legal team are working on it

[Northern Monkey]

Bercow has not been unbiased through this process.

More than likely a long extension until people are more apathetic about leaving and then either a second ref or A50 being revoked.That imo has been the will of many in Parliament for a long time.

[Nicky91]

He has not wrecked Brexit

He has once and for all ensured that we leave with No Deal next Friday as the law states :hello: :dance:

:clap1: :clap1:

good for the rich people in the UK


remoaners should be deported into EU countries, as they can stay with us then rather than causing trouble in Brexit-UK

[bots]

Bercow has not been unbiased through this process.

More than likely a long extension until people are more apathetic about leaving and then either a second ref or A50 being revoked.That imo has been the will of many in Parliament for a long time.

i don't think Bercow has been inbiased either, but May is basically running down the clock and forcing people into accepting it. Even with all the pressure, as a matter of principle now MP's would vote against it, purely because she thinks she can force people into accepting it.

I want there to be a deal, but her own words since the beginning have been no deal is better than a bad deal and the commons clearly believe it is a bad deal. Under those circumstances, if a long extension is needed, then it is the right choice, and if we end up not leaving because people are more aware of the issues, then it is a win for the UK and a win for democracy.

[arista]

The Pathetic PM goes to Brussels
on Thursday
to get a another treaty deal adjustment
ask for longer time

[arista]

https://e3.365dm.com/19/03/768x432/skynews-theresa-may-pm_4613296.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20190319084057

[arista]

https://2mbg6fgb1kl380gtk22pbxgw-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/deal-or-no-deal-1250x664.png

For Sticks

[Twosugars]

Arista lusting after Theresa and posting her pics for no reason?

[bots]

May needs a majority in parliament to get her deal through, and if she has that majority, that majority will be used to ensure that the deal gets voted on, so really, the speakers thoughts on it are redundant.

[arista]

Arista lusting after Theresa and posting her pics for no reason?


The PM Spokesman
just confirmed The Prime Minister
is not prepared to revoke Article 50

[Smithy]

May needs a majority in parliament to get her deal through, and if she has that majority, that majority will be used to ensure that the deal gets voted on, so really, the speakers thoughts on it are redundant.

But she doesn’t have the majority, it’s been put through twice and she lost BOTH times, why put it through a third time when it’s the exact same deal, it’s already been rejected

[bots]

But she doesn’t have the majority, it’s been put through twice and she lost BOTH times, why put it through a third time when it’s the exact same deal, it’s already been rejected

i don't think she is even close to getting a majority, all im saying is if she were to get a majority, that majority would makes sure the deal got voted on.

[Twosugars]

The PM Spokesman
just confirmed The Prime Minister
is not prepared to revoke Article 50

flimsy excuse ;)

[Cherie]

I think he was right, given it was the same deal that had been roundly rejected twice, to produce it a third time and hope it would go through because of the deadline approaching would be just farce, if someone didn't think it was a good deal the first time, why would it be at third time of looking at it :unsure:

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2BfqckX0AAVPLe.jpg

[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2BfqckX0AAVPLe.jpg

What's your point? Brexiteers think everyone is conspiring against them because they refuse to say rainbows and ponies are waiting for everyone.

[arista]

What's your point? Brexiteers think everyone is conspiring against them because they refuse to say rainbows and ponies are waiting for everyone.


Rainbows No

LBC 10AM show is anti brexit
but nothing like the BBC

[The Slim Reaper]

Rainbows No

LBC 10AM show is anti brexit
but nothing like the BBC

Why are they biased against it? Give me some examples.

Is 10am James O'Brien's show?

[arista]

[QUOTE=The Slim Reaper;10481740]Why are they biased against it? Give me some examples.

Is 10am James O'Brien's show?[QUOTE]


Yes he says Brexit is Wrong

[The Slim Reaper]

[QUOTE=The Slim Reaper;10481740]Why are they biased against it? Give me some examples.

Is 10am James O'Brien's show?[QUOTE]


Yes he says Brexit is Wrong

I have no idea how you can listen to James and still think Brexit is the right thing. He's done a great job of breaking everything down and has the public on his show to discuss it. So how are the bbc biased against brexit? I need examples.

[arista]

[QUOTE=arista;10481749][QUOTE=The Slim Reaper;10481740]Why are they biased against it? Give me some examples.

Is 10am James O'Brien's show?

I have no idea how you can listen to James and still think Brexit is the right thing. He's done a great job of breaking everything down and has the public on his show to discuss it. So how are the bbc biased against brexit? I need examples.


He is Honest
not held back by BBC worry's

Lots of BBC examples
but none handy at this time , sorry

[The Slim Reaper]

[QUOTE=The Slim Reaper;10481756][QUOTE=arista;10481749]


He is Honest
not held back by BBC worry's

Lots of BBC examples
but none handy at this time , sorry

Post-brexit Britain in a nutshell.

[Twosugars]

Rainbows No

LBC 10AM show is anti brexit
but nothing like the BBC
what about ponies?

[Twosugars]

Funny, bc I have an impression BBC is pro-brexit :shrug:
to the point that I've started watching ITV news a lot of the time.

[arista]

[QUOTE=arista;10481760][QUOTE=The Slim Reaper;10481756]

Post-brexit Britain in a nutshell.


Found One For You TSR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=CihhxYvjc4c

[The Slim Reaper]

Found One For You TSR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=13&v=CihhxYvjc4c

You might want to pick another example my friend.

This is that guys text under his YT video:

From 'public' audiences filled with Tory activists to not even attempting to have political balance on panels - and even getting the most basic of facts wrong, Aaron Bastani thinks the jury is clearly out. The BBC has totally lost it when it comes to news and current affairs.

I listened to the first clip, and the BBC questioner actually gets her premise completely incorrect, but in support of pushing Brexit through.

[Smithy]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2BfqckX0AAVPLe.jpg

60% of who?

[arista]

60% of who?


UK People that watch it

[Nicky91]

Funny, bc I have an impression BBC is pro-brexit :shrug:
to the point that I've started watching ITV news a lot of the time.

same, i had seen quite a few Farage interviews from BBC in a very friendly manner towards Nigel

[bots]

The government can always get the deal back in front of the house after May meets with the EU. By that point circumstances will have changed with us having been granted an extension or not.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2Ap74MWsAAvUw4.jpg

Times Have Changed

[arista]

Ch4HD News
just reported the next vote in
Parliament will be on Thursday the 28th

[Sticks]

No point because, according to the BBC "EU Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier said the EU would not grant a delay without a "concrete plan" from the UK about what they would do with it." so that settles that

All together now...

We're Leaving without a deal
We're Leaving without a deal
Ee I Adio
We're Leaving without a deal :hello:

[reece(:]

Vote Leave fined over thousands of unsolicited texts


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/D8AF/production/_102717455_voteleavead.jpg

The Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) has fined Brexit Campaign group Vote Leave £40,000 ($53,000) for sending out nearly 200,000 unsolicited text messages.

The text messages contained a link to the campaign website alongside information about its ambitions.

They were sent in the run-up to the EU referendum in 2016.

The ICO said the group had been unable to prove that everyone who received the message had consented to the contact.

Vote Leave said it had gathered numbers from people who had contacted it.

It said the numbers came from website enquiries, texts it had received in response to other promotions and from running its own football competition.

Pro-Brexit Labour group fined by watchdog
Early on in the campaign, Vote Leave launched a competition with a prize of £50m for correctly guessing the result of all 51 games in the 2016 European football championship.

The odds of winning the contest - which Vote Leave funded through an insurance policy - were calculated at one in 5,000,000,000,000,000,000,000.

According to the ICO, Vote Leave said that since the referendum it had deleted records of the consent, the phone numbers the messages were sent to and the volume of messages sent and received.

The ICO put the figure at 194,154 messages.

The email address provided on the Vote Leave website no longer works.

"Spam texts are a real nuisance for millions of people and we will take action against organisations who disregard the law," said Steve Eckersley, ICO Director of Investigations.

"Direct marketing is not just about selling products and services. It's also about promoting an organisation's aims and ideals.

"Political campaigns and parties, like any other organisations, have to comply with the law."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-47623413

[arista]

[PM May to request only 'short delay'
to Brexit in letter to EU
An extension until 30 June is expected
as that is the last day Britain could remain
in the EU without taking part in EU elections.]

https://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-to-request-only-short-delay-to-brexit-in-letter-to-eu-11670616

[Northern Monkey]

[PM May to request only 'short delay'
to Brexit in letter to EU
An extension until 30 June is expected
as that is the last day Britain could remain
in the EU without taking part in EU elections.]

https://news.sky.com/story/theresa-may-to-request-only-short-delay-to-brexit-in-letter-to-eu-11670616

There is absolutely no point in the EU giving us an extension unless they’re willing to open up the withdrawal agreement.
Otherwise in three months we’ll be in exactly the same position.

[arista]

There is absolutely no point in the EU giving us an extension unless they’re willing to open up the withdrawal agreement.
Otherwise in three months we’ll be in exactly the same position.


Yes
nothing has changed


Pathetic PM

[Northern Monkey]

Yes
nothing has changed


Pathetic PM

Pathetic UK Parliament.

[arista]

Pathetic UK Parliament.



Yes not able to agree on anything

[arista]

PMQ's Live
The PM just confirmed she will ask the EU for a short extension
30th of June

[Benjamin]

I literally don’t care anymore, just leave or don’t. Make a decision and do it, stop dragging it out.

[Twosugars]

A short extension? Doesn't make sense at this point.

[arista]

I literally don’t care anymore, just leave or don’t. Make a decision and do it, stop dragging it out.


Yes she wants to Extend
to the 30th of June.
So far she EU is not happy to do that.


She wants to Drag it on

[arista]

A short extension? Doesn't make sense at this point.



It because of the UK having to do the EU Elections
which the PM does not.

[Twosugars]

It because of the UK having to do the EU Elections
which the PM does not.

couldn't they allow the uk to simply extend the mandates of the current MEPs?

[Nicky91]

Yes she wants to Extend
to the 30th of June.
So far she EU is not happy to do that.


She wants to Drag it on

of course EU isn't happy about this, it would mean this brexit chaos to go on and on for even longer and they don't want that

[Twosugars]

They may have to force her out of office, she's too inflexible with that bloody deal of hers.

[arista]

couldn't they allow the uk to simply extend the mandates of the current MEPs?



Its all pre-set
to end, next week
I believe

[arista]

of course EU isn't happy about this, it would mean this brexit chaos to go on and on for even longer and they don't want that




She will be in your Nation
tomorrow.

And the Labour Leader is also going
for his own talks. (he told us in PMQ's)

[arista]

They may have to force her out of office, she's too inflexible with that bloody deal of hers.



A General Election
could be the only solution
but the Conservatives must Elect a new leader
fast/

[Twosugars]

A General Election
could be the only solution
but the Conservatives must Elect a new leader
fast/
yes, it may come to that

[The Slim Reaper]

MGwz-u5otzk

[bots]

They may have to force her out of office, she's too inflexible with that bloody deal of hers.

they can't force her out, she would have to resign. Wouldn't blame her if she did resign. She will go down in history as one of the worst prime ministers ever, and that's not going to change now, but, I don't believe anyone could have got a deal together that would have been accepted in parliament, because the majority of MP's don't want to leave, even if thats what the country voted for.

[arista]

Yes we had all that on Ch4HD news
who broke it.

[arista]

The EU Donald Tusk has now replied to the PM's request
saying the UK must leave by May the 23rd
or must enter EU Elections......................


and
14:09
[French magazine reports Emmanuel Macron will veto Theresa May's request to extend Article 50]

[arista]

The Speaker
has granted a Emergency Brexit Debate for Today.

Labour want a Long Extension

[arista]

Live now

[bots]

I can see us leaving with a no deal next week and May disappearing into the sunset. I think the EU is going to put conditions on any extension that just wont be acceptable and will cement the reasons why people want to leave

[Cherie]

I can see us leaving with a no deal next week and May disappearing into the sunset. I think the EU is going to put conditions on any extension that just wont be acceptable and will cement the reasons why people want to leave

If that happens then it is the EU who are forcing a hard border on Ireland no one else

[bots]

If that happens then it is the EU who are forcing a hard border on Ireland no one else

i believe France have already stated their demands, and they wont be accepted, because it insists that the deal is ratified as is

[Cherie]

i believe France have already stated their demands, and they wont be accepted, because it insists that the deal is ratified as is

so much for the EU protecting their own eh?

I have come to the conclusion that no deal with what the UK deserves anyway, 52% of people wanted out, let them have it

[bots]

so much for the EU protecting their own eh?

I have come to the conclusion that no deal with what the UK deserves anyway, 52% of people wanted out, let them have it

it's good in a way, because we have been focused on internal crap, where the reason people wanted to leave is because they just didn't agree with the EU, and the EU are showing their true colours at the critical moment

[The Slim Reaper]

If that happens then it is the EU who are forcing a hard border on Ireland no one else

Not really, this was a known issue before the referendum even happened but was made out to be project fear, and we've had 2 years to sort it out since then.

At some point we have to realise we've done this to ourselves. The problem now, is that we're too pigheaded, proud, or fearful to admit we've made a huge ****ing mistake based on lies and misinformation.

[bots]

EU leaders could agree a short delay to #Brexit, says @eucopresident Donald Tusk, but only on condition that MPs pass Theresa May's deal in the House of Commons

that's not going to get house approval ... the EU telling us how to vote ... no chance

[arista]

Reports the PM is to give a Statement at 8PM
outside 10 Downing St.

[arista]

i believe France have already stated their demands, and they wont be accepted, because it insists that the deal is ratified as is


France has now said they will not Veto the extension

[arista]

Not really, this was a known issue before the referendum even happened but was made out to be project fear, and we've had 2 years to sort it out since then.

At some point we have to realise we've done this to ourselves. The problem now, is that we're too pigheaded, proud, or fearful to admit we've made a huge ****ing mistake based on lies and misinformation.


Thats your 10AM LBC viewpoint

[bots]

France has now said they will not Veto the extension

yeah, but Tusk has just echoed their demand, that MP's pass May's deal, that wont bring acceptance of it, it will piss more MP's off

[Scarlett.]

What a ****show Brexit is

[The Slim Reaper]

Thats your 10AM LBC viewpoint

It's what the evidence points to, my brother.

[arista]

It's what the evidence points to, my brother.


that's never ending

[arista]

What a ****show Brexit is



Yes it's like a Alternate GTA5 1080P
you are stuck in the Sewer Route
Armed police at both ends.


There are Workers in your Way.....................................

[Cherie]

Not really, this was a known issue before the referendum even happened but was made out to be project fear, and we've had 2 years to sort it out since then.

At some point we have to realise we've done this to ourselves. The problem now, is that we're too pigheaded, proud, or fearful to admit we've made a huge ****ing mistake based on lies and misinformation.

The border with the Republic was never mentioned anywhere until the backstop was brought up!

I am a remainer but am pretty pissed at the EU's disregard for the border by laying down an ultimatum to pass a vote that has not passed twice, even you must see that the EU are being intransient at the moment? Yes the UK had 2 years to sort it out with EU help but given they can see how difficult it is to reach agreement they could extend some hand to try and resolve it rather than saying suck this up this terrible deal or else!

[Northern Monkey]

The ERG and the Labour party need to pull their heads out their arses and vote for this crappy deal.

[Northern Monkey]

The border with the Republic was never mentioned anywhere until the backstop was brought up!

I am a remainer but am pretty pissed at the EU's disregard for the border by laying down an ultimatum to pass a vote that has not passed twice, even you must see that the EU are being intransient at the moment? Yes the UK had 2 years to sort it out with EU help but given they can see how difficult it is to reach agreement they could extend some hand to try and resolve it rather than saying suck this up this terrible deal or else!

True :clap1:

[Cherie]

The ERG and the Labour party need to pull their heads out their arses and vote for this crappy deal.

Cant see the ERG agreeing to this with the EU forcing their hand, I can see a no deal scenario, oh well! Best get to Lidl and stock up on some stuff :hee:

[Northern Monkey]

Cant see the ERG agreeing to this with the EU forcing their hand, I can see a no deal scenario, oh well! Best get to Lidl and stock up on some stuff :hee:

German beer and Liebfraumilch

[The Slim Reaper]

The border with the Republic was never mentioned anywhere until the backstop was brought up!

I am a remainer but am pretty pissed at the EU's disregard for the border by laying down an ultimatum to pass a vote that has not passed twice, even you must see that the EU are being intransient at the moment? Yes the UK had 2 years to sort it out with EU help but given they can see how difficult it is to reach agreement they could extend some hand to try and resolve it rather than saying suck this up this terrible deal or else!

If you get chance, watch the video I posted a couple of pages ago with Oliver Norgrove - a leading leave campaigner. The issue was known.

[Cherie]

If you get chance, watch the video I posted a couple of pages ago with Oliver Norgrove - a leading leave campaigner. The issue was known.

I will, but what I am saying is the issue didn't appear anywhere on any literature for the public so they could make an informed decision , I have heard leavers on phone in complaining that they were not aware of the issue when they voted

[The Slim Reaper]

I will, but what I am saying is the issue didn't appear anywhere on any literature for the public so they could make an informed decision , I have heard leavers on phone in complaining that they were not aware of the issue when they voted

It was avoided by the leave campaign, and let's be honest the whole referendum was not one that dealt with the minutiae of policy.

[Twosugars]

The EU has had enough of UK's moaning.
The only way is to get rid of May and ask for a long extension and start from scratch trying for second ref or soft brexit.

[Cherie]

I have just read that the other option is a long extension ....linked to a new event

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-michel-barnier-says-long-14159215

[bots]

I have just read that the other option is a long extension ....linked to a new event

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/brexit-michel-barnier-says-long-14159215

that won't play out though because our mp's will vote to reject their short extension, and then its no deal brexit or revoke article 50