The EU - Referendum - 23rd of June 2016 - in or out?

[The Slim Reaper]

Hate to be the barer of more bad brexit news

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The plant being closed is owned by Jim Ratcliffe, a Brexit supporter who 'officially changed his tax residence from Hampshire to Monaco, a move that it is estimated will save him £4 billion in tax'...

[Tom4784]

All hail the golden age, where our rights are forfeit and business is moving abroad.

I hope brexit voters are happy.

[The Slim Reaper]

It gets better

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ErKBm60XMAcsqRN?format=jpg&name=large

[Tom4784]

God, I hate people.

[Niamh.]

I thought the Oxford vaccine wasn't effective on the newer strains?

[arista]

I thought the Oxford vaccine wasn't effective on the newer strains?


Thats not confirmed.

[arista]

Hate to be the barer of more bad brexit news

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The plant being closed is owned by Jim Ratcliffe, a Brexit supporter who 'officially changed his tax residence from Hampshire to Monaco, a move that it is estimated will save him £4 billion in tax'...


That could have happened, anyway

[user104658]

I thought the Oxford vaccine wasn't effective on the newer strains?Not many tests have been done although I heard that preliminary testing (on the SA strain which is the one that was causing vaccine worries) is actually quite encouraging.

The issue isn't really whether or not the vaccine will work at this point... It's that the rate in London is so high now that it will have spread like wildfire LONG before a decent proportion of people have been vaccinated... And those strains are now spreading globally.

Honearly there's a very real risk that the vaccines have simply come too late to stop full spread throughout the population.

[Alf]

Hate to be the barer of more bad brexit news

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The plant being closed is owned by Jim Ratcliffe, a Brexit supporter who 'officially changed his tax residence from Hampshire to Monaco, a move that it is estimated will save him £4 billion in tax'...Let it go Slim, stop listening to Femi. It's over.

[The Slim Reaper]

Let it go Slim, stop listening to Femi. It's over.

It's been over for a while, but I struggle to believe that you think one man losing his job in a different country, is more important than 400 losing their jobs over here. Especially when the factory owner is one of the brexiteers.

[arista]

Good on the Labour Leader
on Marr BBC1HD today
has said in 2024 General Election,
he will not change the treaty.

[The Slim Reaper]

Sorry Arista, but tories will try and change it way before 2024 because it's a disaster.

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[arista]

"Sorry Arista, but tories will try and change
it way before 2024 because it's a disaster."

We will see.

[The Slim Reaper]

"sorry arista, but tories will try and change
it way before 2024 because it's a disaster."

we will see.

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[The Slim Reaper]

The fishermen used by leave, have been completely abandoned.

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Brexiteers should be furious.

[Ammi]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Project fear.

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[Crimson Dynamo]

aO6qe4Pyncs

[The Slim Reaper]

That's what happens at borders. Try taking anything into Aus or NZ. we wanted these borders, and it is EU law that meat and dairy can't be taken into the EU. Just because brexiteers don't understand borders... This is what we won :cheer2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Jim is just reminding the Dutch about their recent history...

[The Slim Reaper]

Not a lot of good news around brexit this morning.

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[arista]

Yes major problems
but in time, they will be fixed

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Niamh.]

aO6qe4Pyncs

I don't understand what people think is so awful about The Dutch/EU enforcing border rules though? This is what you voted for, you voted for borders, you didn't have them there when you were in the EU because you were in the EU, you weren't kicked out, you wanted borders back? Idgi

[arista]

Scottish Fisherman
are going to Dump the Rotting Fish in Westminster
next week.
Ch4HDnews.

The Government should send helpers
to their officers to show them how to do the paperwork.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EruXwAZVQAE8cx9?format=jpg&name=small

[Kizzy]

If we were out of the EU more regressive laws will be passed. I say stay in.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-workers-rights-eu-b1787603.html

[Nicky91]

aO6qe4Pyncs

our border is ours, this far right moron has nothing to say about us

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1351442286513696768

https://twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1351441148708061184

https://twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1351439725459070976

https://twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1351438194487783424

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Kizzy]

Meps are not in charge, mps are not in charge... business is in charge. This is the fruition of the long game.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2012/aug/22/britannia-unchained-rise-of-new-tory-right

[arista]

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The Left Wing Presenter (LBC 10AM show) is having a go at Roger

[The Slim Reaper]

Congrats, Brexiteers.

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[arista]

Nissan says Brexit deal is 'positive' - and gives carmaker
a 'competitive advantage'
The company says it is well positioned to capitalise
on the Brexit deal and is set to create more jobs on Wearside.

https://news.sky.com/story/nissan-boss-says-brexit-is-positive-and-claims-new-trade-deal-gives-carmaker-a-competitive-advantage-12194667


A Good Story for a change.

[The Slim Reaper]

Nissan says Brexit deal is 'positive' - and gives carmaker
a 'competitive advantage'
The company says it is well positioned to capitalise
on the Brexit deal and is set to create more jobs on Wearside.

https://news.sky.com/story/nissan-boss-says-brexit-is-positive-and-claims-new-trade-deal-gives-carmaker-a-competitive-advantage-12194667


A Good Story for a change.

It's more about government subsidies there, Arista. But happy for the workers that will get to keep their jobs.

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[The Slim Reaper]

The fishing industry was used, and then abandoned.

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[Vicky.]

Been actively trying to avoid this for a while tbh. It appears as though*, the deal we decided on last minute (as Macron and Boris stared willywaving at each other over the Dover situation, seemingly, and Boris lost?) is way worse than any previous deals spoken about, for us anyway? How surprising and not at all what many said would happen. I was in the 'any deal is better than no deal' camp for a while, but really, if its all concessions and no benefit as it seems to be, is the deal really worth it?! We were grabbed by the balls though really, and I will always be of the opinion that the 'hold ups' were more a show of power, than anything to do with the 'new' strain of covid, that had been known about since September..and the power show, made Boris piss himself. In short.


*primarily from reading ranty statuses, and blog posts and stuff though, in fairness!

[The Slim Reaper]

Been actively trying to avoid this for a while tbh. It appears as though*, the deal we decided on last minute (as Macron and Boris stared willywaving at each other over the Dover situation, seemingly, and Boris lost?) is way worse than any previous deals spoken about, for us anyway? How surprising and not at all what many said would happen. I was in the 'any deal is better than no deal' camp for a while, but really, if its all concessions and no benefit as it seems to be, is the deal really worth it?! We were grabbed by the balls though really, and I will always be of the opinion that the 'hold ups' were more a show of power, than anything to do with the 'new' strain of covid, that had been known about since September..and the power show, made Boris piss himself. In short.


*primarily from reading ranty statuses, and blog posts and stuff though, in fairness!

This deal is terrible, but it's still better than no-deal. This was always the problem with the fools gold of brexit and the claims made. This isn't considerably worse than Mays deal, it's just that that the lies and fake promises have finally met with reality. When people were told they didn't understand what they were actually voting for, it was called elitism and project fear.

The EU just looked after their members interests, they didn't try and bully us or anything like that. Boris screwed the pooch by not negotiating and then making the agreement last minute.

The truth and harsh reality, is that we already had sovereignty and we had the best deal available by being n the EU. Brexit was just the wealthy using nationalism to protect their tax avoidance and to redirect money to them and their friends. Now the government will soon be blaming brexiteers for this deal, the same way they are blaming us for their covid failures.

[arista]

"It's more about government subsidies there, Arista.
But happy for the workers that will get to keep their jobs."


Yes Slim
sure,but still great news for the Nissan UK workers.

[Tom4784]

The denial of May's deals, for the most part, was just pageantry to aid Boris' succession. The deal we got does not look to be an improvement over May's but it's accepted out of necessity and because the Tories got the leader they wanted. May was only there to get the brunt of the blame so Boris could ride in on a gold painted horse and look like the hero we needed to the gullible.

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

I'm so fcuking furious that our futures and rights have been mortgaged for less than nothing.

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British companies told to move to EU. :laugh:

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[bots]

Some of the things coming out as a result of the tariff free trade deal are shocking. I'm not entirely sure what part of it is tariff free, because new charges are appearing everywhere

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/E29E/production/_116741085_observer-nc.jpg

This paper also posted
on Covid thread.

[arista]

Northern Ireland leaders condemn threats against port staff
as Brexit checks suspended

Graffiti in the area references tensions
over the Northern Ireland Protocol
and describes port staff as "targets".

https://news.sky.com/story/belfast-and-larne-port-staff-pulled-over-upsurge-in-sinister-and-menacing-behaviour-12206082

[Niamh.]

Some good news for Cork jobs though as we will be getting extra routes to France to by pass the UK land bridge

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/major-new-cork-france-ferry-19720158

[The Slim Reaper]

Some good news for Cork jobs though as we will be getting extra routes to France to by pass the UK land bridge

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/major-new-cork-france-ferry-19720158

Us superior English folk let you have those, as we're too busy counting our dead, rotting fish.

[Cherie]

Some good news for Cork jobs though as we will be getting extra routes to France to by pass the UK land bridge

https://www.corkbeo.ie/news/local-news/major-new-cork-france-ferry-19720158

good news for Cork boy :hehe:

[Niamh.]

good news for Cork boy :hehe:

:laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[bots]

an item that i ordered from the EU used to take 3 days to be delivered, now its more than 3 weeks since it was dispatched and i'm still waiting, this frictionless trade is something else

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Sticks]

an item that i ordered from the EU used to take 3 days to be delivered, now its more than 3 weeks since it was dispatched and i'm still waiting, this frictionless trade is something else

More from Project Fear on Steroids....

I can't wait for our new shiny hard boarder across the Northern Ireland border :dance:

[/Sarcasm Mode]

[The Slim Reaper]

More from Project Fear on Steroids....

I can't wait for our new shiny hard boarder across the Northern Ireland border :dance:

[/Sarcasm Mode]

We can finally be done with the mad micks across the sea. Britain first :fist:

[The Slim Reaper]

Boris making the case for remain...

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[The Slim Reaper]

Oopsy daisy

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[arista]

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[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/vonderleyen/status/1357359534776401922

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[Sticks]

Yet more Project fear on steroids

[The Slim Reaper]

Brexiteers should be furious, but if anymore evidence was needed that this was a racist and xenophobic endeavour, their silence speaks volumes.

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

And the beat goes on...

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[Sticks]

What we need is a nice shiny hard boarder across Northern Ireland. Razor wire would do at first whilst they build a massive wall and get Mexico to pay for it...

[arista]

UK and EU hold 'frank but constructive' talks on NI trade rules

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-56029067

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/ad_img/1361738333605539842/hzBsVk8P?format=jpg&name=small

[UserSince2005]

The EU is sooooo salty that Brexit is already and internally renowned success.
Get over it.
Move on.

[The Slim Reaper]

Project fear

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[UserSince2005]

If im surprised how much of success Brexit has been to date.

Its a new dawn
Its a new Age
Its a new life

[arista]

[Prices are expected to start from around £22,000
for the entry-level mid-hybrid petrol
while the self-charging hybrid will cost up to £32,000]

Nissan unveils its new Sunderland-built Qashqai & hails the SUV
as a vote of confidence in Britain and its North East workforce
Bosses at the Japanese car brand said it was happy
to celebrate its 'Britishness' with the arrival of the new car
It will be built in Sunderland and is seen as the
model that secured Nissan's stay in post-Brexit Britain
The new SUV has been conceived at the brand's
design centre in Paddington and engineered in Bedfordshire
The third-generation Qashqai will be the first to feature
a hybrid powertrain as Nissan ditches diesel engines
We have all the details on the new Qashqai,
which has been the UK's favourite SUV model
for over a decade]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/cars/article-9270635/Nissan-unveils-new-Sunderland-built-Qashqai-costing-22k.html

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Tom4784]

Brexit was well worth it, we'll have gotten the tax breaks that the rich have been eyeing up and it only cost us the economy and future stability to appease our rich masters!

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Nicky91]

yes still going quite well for the UK, now ur out of the EU nazi regime

[arista]

yes still going quite well for the UK, now ur out of the EU nazi regime


What are you on about?

[Sticks]

What are you on about?

Did you not hear, apparently the EU was part of Hitler's plan B. It was a scheme cooked up by the top Nazis, Hitler, Himmler etc :eek:

I remember just after the result came in for leave, hearing on the PM programme on BBC Radio 4, an interview with a pensioner who was crying, because the leave vote was the final defeat of Adolf Hitler and finally the end of WW2, or something like that. :rolleyes:

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwYR2aPXAAIc0PC?format=jpg&name=small

[The Slim Reaper]

I'm amazed that the brexit lovers have stopped posting in here, when there has been so much recent news.

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[arista]

Yes Spain
no longer caring

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes Spain
no longer caring

We ended freedom of movement, not Spain.

[arista]

We ended freedom of movement, not Spain.


Yes we did.
But these folks spend money in Spain
and they do not like them.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes we did.
But these folks spend money in Spain
and they do not like them.

Brown people and eastern Europeans spent money here, but you and your merry band of racists and xenophobes voted that you didn't like them.

[arista]

Brown people and eastern Europeans spent money here, but you and your merry band of racists and xenophobes voted that you didn't like them.


Migrants
is a world problem.

[The Slim Reaper]

Migrants
is a world problem.

Only for racists and xenophobes.

[arista]

Only for racists and xenophobes.


You are wrong
Spanish Islands
do not have the room.

Thats a Fact.

[The Slim Reaper]

You are wrong
Spanish Islands
do not have the room.

Thats a Fact.

You're making sh1t up again. You've shown you know nothing about brexit and it's ramifications and you're still pushing your racist nonsense so swerve me unless you have some facts. You've ruined this country for the next few generations because of pushing these lies, while you have the nerve to listen to Blues music.

[arista]

You're making sh1t up again. You've shown you know nothing about brexit and it's ramifications and you're still pushing your racist nonsense so swerve me unless you have some facts. You've ruined this country for the next few generations because of pushing these lies, while you have the nerve to listen to Blues music.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-europe-migrants-spain-idUSKBN28027E


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/nov/29/canary-islands-struggle-with-huge-rise-in-migration-arguineguin


You can say sorry

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/336C/production/_115546131_hi064384458.jpg
[Hundreds of migrants have been removed by police
from a crowded dock in Spain's Canary Islands, f
ollowing a sharp rise in the number of people
arriving there from Africa.
A group of 225 people were evicted
from the Arguineguín port in Gran Canaria]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54985581


Slim Spanish Islands
do not have the room.
FACT

[The Slim Reaper]

The issue isn't anything to do with brexit which is what was being discussed initially in relation to Spain.

[arista]

The issue isn't anything to do with brexit which is what was being discussed initially in relation to Spain.


Sure but stop being silly
saying to me " You're making sh1t up again"


Those Legit Links prove it's the Truth I spoke.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Probably the most important thing in our lives the vaccine roll out


UK - brilliant so far, world leading

EU - unmitigated disaster

Over 70s vaccinated UK 98%

Italy 3%

Ireland 17%

:skull:

[Cherie]

I'm amazed that the brexit lovers have stopped posting in here, when there has been so much recent news.

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TBf they will only be deported if they didn’t get their paperwork if resident in before 31/12/2020....if not resident they can stay for 90 days in any 180 day period, if they didn’t get paperwork in I have no pity, even less if they voted Brexit :laugh:

The UK has given EU residents until June 2021 to apply

[Nicky91]

Probably the most important thing in our lives the vaccine roll out


UK - brilliant so far, world leading

EU - unmitigated disaster

Over 70s vaccinated UK 98%

Italy 3%

Ireland 17%

:skull:

vaccinating is difficult though

[Cherie]

vaccinating is difficult though

its literally a small prick, TiBB will have had many :smug:

[bots]

its literally a small prick, TiBB will have had many :smug:

LT being referred to again :hehe:

[Cherie]

LT being referred to again :hehe:

:hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

:oh:

[Nicky91]

its literally a small prick, TiBB will have had many :smug:

i will remain the only one on TiBB without it :smug:

[Tom4784]

People complaining about getting kicked out of EU countries when they voted to leave is my favourite song atm.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Austria threatens to halt EU’s 100M vaccine buy until it gets greater share of jabs

the EU chaos continues

https://www.politico.eu/article/sebastian-kurz-austria-threatens-to-block-eu-option-to-buy-100-million-coronavirus-vaccine-doses-in-fight-over-distribution/

[Nicky91]

Austria threatens to halt EU’s 100M vaccine buy until it gets greater share of jabs

the EU chaos continues

https://www.politico.eu/article/sebastian-kurz-austria-threatens-to-block-eu-option-to-buy-100-million-coronavirus-vaccine-doses-in-fight-over-distribution/

so what, irrelevant as it is not our country lol

[bots]

so what, irrelevant as it is not our country lol

you are a part of the EU, and austria is threatening to veto further vaccine purchase unless they get a better shar, so its very relevant

[Nicky91]

you are a part of the EU, and austria is threatening to veto further vaccine purchase unless they get a better shar, so its very relevant

yes we Netherlands cannot live without the EU



Austria i don't care how much they moan, if they want vaccines, create them yourself, lazy chancellor Kurz :idc:

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

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no thank you

[The Slim Reaper]

All the sh1t being caused by brexit that arista conveniently misses out, but a bit of anti-EU propaganda and he posts it faster than anything. :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

And I thought Germany had all the power, which was a reason we had to leave?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hardly "propaganda"

Even the extreme left in Germany have been warning about more coluntries leaving the corrupt corporate EU - back in Jan

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1390173/brexit-news-german-politician-uk-leave-eu-warning-germany-france-spt

This vaccine fiasco caused by the EU may yet be the catalyst

[Nicky91]

i always will remain loyal towards the EU


there is no vaccine fiasco, vaccinating is not important anyway

[The Slim Reaper]

Germany had a 70% favourability rating towards the EU a few months ago, which has probably dropped a bit recently, but yeah, it's propaganda.

[Nicky91]

also the extreme left have no real power in germany


Merkel will step down this year ok, but her successor they already know more or less, Armin Laschet and he is just similar to Merkel in terms of political views, in terms of views towards the EU, so nothing will change over there


though Laschet has good relations now with my country's PM Rutte, so maybe we are able to share the fieldlab test event idea so they could do that either to safely give public there more freedom back as well :think:

[The Slim Reaper]

also the extreme left have no real power in germany


Merkel will step down this year ok, but her successor they already know more or less, Armin Laschet and he is just similar to Merkel in terms of political views, in terms of views towards the EU, so nothing will change over there


though Laschet has good relations now with my country's PM Rutte, so maybe we are able to share the fieldlab test event idea so they could do that either to safely give public there more freedom back as well :think:

They also don't have far right press barons telling them daily that immigrants are the reason for every problem in the world, over decades.

[Nicky91]

''extreme left'' :conf:

https://www.thelocal.de/20210411/yes-to-dexit-germanys-far-right-afd-firms-up-election-strategy/

far right AfD are those who want the dexit :shrug: and i believe this newspaper more


but AfD has no powers whatsoever at the moment in parliament so this is meaningless propaganda :idc:

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/336C/production/_115546131_hi064384458.jpg
[Hundreds of migrants have been removed by police
from a crowded dock in Spain's Canary Islands, f
ollowing a sharp rise in the number of people
arriving there from Africa.
A group of 225 people were evicted
from the Arguineguín port in Gran Canaria]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54985581


Slim Spanish Islands
do not have the room.
FACT



Slim is Missing In Action
when he returns he can say
Sorry to me
As the Spanish Islands do not have room for Migrantrs

[arista]

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Ref : Possible Tarrif Free Trade with Australia

The SNP Westminster Leader told
NewsightHD bbc2
that the Scottish Farmers can not compete
with big Australia Farms!

[arista]

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[Cherie]

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I do agree with him, no point harping on about it, it is what it is for now

[Nicky91]

correct Cherie


but i myself never intend to vote for a Nexit, since i'm still of opinion we are better off in the EU but that is what i think for my nation

[arista]

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[arista]

Maros Sefcovic
The EU spokesperson
in Central London.

No Solution with UK
The EU is going to take the UK to Court in the Autumn
over going back on their word.


Still Fresh English Sausages
can not reach Sainsburys in Belfast.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

At the G7
Macron has Refused Johnson's
Idea of doing another Deal in Northern Ireland

So we are Stuck with English Trade Lorrys not able to go to
Northern Ireland


Sort all the Forms out
would be best.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/12/08/44131527-9678607-image-a-64_1623483455843.jpg

[arista]

Cocky Johnson
at the G7
was just on SkyNewsHD and BBCNewsHD

Beth on SkyNewsHD challenged him at
when Johnson said "Whatever It Takes."
But Johnson is still fighting as he can solve the Trade
problems of Northern Ireland?


ON BBC it was a brief Edit.

[Ammi]

…this is the deal our divine leader made, this is the deal he made for Northern Ireland and he was fine with it…

[arista]

…this is the deal our divine leader made, this is the deal he made for Northern Ireland and was fine with it…


The Problem is Northern Ireland
is not Fully out of the EU.


All the Johnson plans
10 of them were rejected.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/explainers-53724381

[arista]

[The whole of the UK would leave the EU Customs Union
as a single customs territory with Northern Ireland
included in any future British trade agreements,
but that Northern Ireland would adopt EU Single Market regulations
on goods and thus remain an entry point into the EU Customs Union.]


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/3660/production/_116902931_northern_ireland_protocols_640_2x-nc.png

[The Slim Reaper]

That was called project fear, Arista. We told you what would happen, but Boris had this great oven ready deal that the Tories refused to even read before passing, so....

[arista]

That was called project fear, Arista. We told you what would happen, but Boris had this great oven ready deal that the Tories refused to even read before passing, so....



Yes
they are now up to date



Those Sausages are Not Oven Ready
they are stuck at the UK Depot Cold Storage



Macron does not Trust Johnson



Great Cartoon , again.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3YDs4bXoA8rmzd?format=jpg&name=small



Nice to see you back Slim.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes
they are now up to date



Those Sausages are Not Oven Ready
they are stuck at the UK Depot Cold Storage



Macron does not Trust Johnson



Great Cartoon , again.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3YDs4bXoA8rmzd?format=jpg&name=small



Nice to see you back Slim.

Are you still in favour of Brexit? You can't see everything turn to sh1t like I warned you, and still support this nonsense, surely?

[arista]

Are you still in favour of Brexit? You can't see everything turn to sh1t like I warned you, and still support this nonsense, surely?



Yes I am still Backing Brexit
Covid has bugged up alot.


I can see the Trouble
with Northern Ireland
its a matter of getting Forms that work.

[arista]

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[arista]

Johnson claims it's all a Misunderstanding?

He told his mate Laura of the BBC.

[bots]

just about any disagreement can be called a misunderstanding by one side :laugh:

[arista]

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Large Observer

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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You know they're lying though, don't you? They're laying the groundwork to break another agreement. At what point do you think you may have believed all the lies?

[The Slim Reaper]

Biden pumping up the EU, as we think we have the "special relationship".

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[arista]

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[arista]

[Johnson PM hails 'new dawn' as UK and Australia
agree free trade deal
The prime minister says the agreement
"opens fantastic opportunities for British businesses
and consumers".


Downing Street said the deal will help distillers
by scrapping tariffs of up to 5% on Scotch whisky,
while car manufacturers in the Midlands and the
North of England will see tariffs of up to 5% cut

• Number 10 said more than 450 businesses in Wales exported
to Australia last year and stand to benefit,
while "life science companies and
chemicals manufacturers are set to benefit in particular"
• It said that in Northern Ireland,
90% of all exports to Australia are "machinery
and manufacturing goods used extensively in
Australia's mining, quarrying and
recycling sectors", and under the deal tariffs will
be removed and customs procedures "simplified"]


https://news.sky.com/story/boris-johnson-hails-new-dawn-as-uk-and-australia-agree-free-trade-deal-12332932

[arista]

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3v_CTZX0AMQomz?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

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[Beso]

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They will go down a treat in glasgow at xmas.:hehe:

[The Slim Reaper]

Do you know what deal means, Arista? Basically an end to our farming industry, and the lowering of standards when it comes to the meat we'll be eating. Still levelling up?

Do you also know what the benefits are for each householder in the uk are equal to? Up to £1.30 per year. Not a minimum of, but up to.

I keep telling you all this is absolute nonsense, but you keep believing the liars and crooks, regardless of how many times they keep lying to you.

[Beso]

Do you know what deal means, Arista? Basically an end to our farming industry, and the lowering of standards when it comes to the meat we'll be eating. Still levelling up?

Do you also know what the benefits are for each householder in the uk are equal to? Up to £1.30 per year. Not a minimum of, but up to.

I keep telling you all this is absolute nonsense, but you keep believing the liars and crooks, regardless of how many times they keep lying to you.

Can you explain how the meat we will eat will be of a lower standard?

[The Slim Reaper]

Can you explain how the meat we will eat will be of a lower standard?

Yeah, of course. It comes down to maximum farming levels. So for example, what we currently have over here would be a maximum level of x cows in a heard (I'm not sure of the exact numbers, and can't be arsed to look it up but I think it's under 1k), whereas in Australia, their farms would have around 30k cows.

So it's basically similar to the old battery farming techniques where they pack them in, pump them with drugs, and because they're dealing in such huge numbers, they can produce cheaper meat. Those standards wouldn't have been allowed in the EU.

[Beso]

Yeah, of course. It comes down to maximum farming levels. So for example, what we currently have over here would be a maximum level of x cows in a heard (I'm not sure of the exact numbers, and can't be arsed to look it up but I think it's under 1k), whereas in Australia, their farms would have around 30k cows.

So it's basically similar to the old battery farming techniques where they pack them in, pump them with drugs, and because they're dealing in such huge numbers, they can produce cheaper meat. Those standards wouldn't have been allowed in the EU.

But isnt the deal us exporting to them.

[The Slim Reaper]

But isnt the deal us exporting to them.

Trade agreements are always 2-way. I think our biggest exports are whiskey and cheese.

[Beso]

Trade agreements are always 2-way. I think our biggest exports are whiskey and cheese.

How much meat we taking of them?

[The Slim Reaper]

How much meat we taking of them?

We know a lot, but until it starts, putting a number on it is impossible. What we do know is that British farmers see this as a massive loss, and Ozzy farmers see it as a massive win, so that should tell you something.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/may/20/australia-beef-exports-uk-free-trade-deal-farmers

Australia’s beef exports to UK ‘could rise tenfold’ on free-trade deal

[Beso]

It tells me it's all ifs and buts atm.

[The Slim Reaper]

It tells me it's all ifs and buts atm.

Which is what I said. There are knowns though, and you've seemed to ignore them.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E39D96sXMAAl3T0?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[bots]

UK food and drink exports to the European Union almost halved in the first three months of the year, compared with the same period in 2020.

The Food and Drink Federation (FDF) figures show EU sales dropped by 47%.

The trade body said the decline was largely due to changes in the UK's trading relationships, but said the pandemic was also a factor.

The government said it was "too early to draw any firm conclusions" on the long term impact of Brexit.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57518910

[Ammi]

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…and for some this is their whole life work and livelihoods…its not, oh he’s an ass and dishonest etc…it’s everything to them, its just so saddening…I mean really heartbreaking….

[The Slim Reaper]

…and for some this is their whole life work and livelihoods…its not, oh he’s an ass and dishonest etc…it’s everything to them, its just so saddening…I mean really heartbreaking….

It shows it really was about xenophobia, honestly. Any honest brexiteers would see what it's done to farming and fishing who brexiteers used repeatedly to lie about the EU, and say hold on, this wasn't what was supposed to happen, but no, still supporting this destruction of the country.

[The Slim Reaper]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4LET3EXEAIgnAr?format=jpg&name=medium

[arista]

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4WgvmJWUAU76qb?format=jpg&name=small

[The Slim Reaper]

No self deception is too big for leavers.

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[bots]

the true potential to trade less, yeah, that's just wonderful

[arista]

5 Years ago we Voted.


But it took 4 and a bit years to start.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

noone will be traveling anywhere so irrelevant

also if you are on 02 it serves you right

[Crimson Dynamo]

noone will be traveling anywhere so irrelevant

also if you are on 02 it serves you right

[The Slim Reaper]

It's not just 02. Promised sunlit uplands but have folks defending them after every lie leads to another loss.

[Nicky91]

today a EU summit regarding the new controversial anti-LGBTQ+ laws in Hungary, what sanctions they should receive

[bots]

the agreement on no roaming charges was an EU thing, so it's not surprising that's gone. Most of the providers charge a set amount like £5 for the week, so it's not the biggest crapper. It's when it's added to all the other extra costs across the board that it really bites

I don't believe that anyone that voted leave realised what the real world impact would be on nearly everything, and there have been very, very few plusses to mitigate against it

[Sticks]

But they wanted to give Cameron a good kicking...

[arista]

But they wanted to give Cameron a good kicking...


Thats true
many voted just to punish Prime Minister David Cameron.


He was Great, allowing a public vote
in order to stop Farage taking more of his MP's
at that great time.
Hell of a Gamble.

[arista]

The EU has given another 3 month extension
to allow Chilled meats to Northern Ireland Supermarkets
from the UK.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/A76B/production/_116295824_sausages1.jpg

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1415286012457148418

The EU Green Deal

https://twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1415299457999163397

https://twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1415296211050016768

https://twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1415289818565816321

:clap1: :clap1:

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

This ladies company supplies into supermarkets, and she's saying that food shortages are om the way.

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[bots]

This ladies company supplies into supermarkets, and she's saying that food shortages are om the way.


The pandemic has hidden so much, i predict at least a year of pure brexit pain

[The Slim Reaper]

The express almost getting close to the truth.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E6aBQm6WUAAf5fe?format=png&name=small

[The Slim Reaper]

EU Statement: No renegotiation of the NI protocol. Not sure if jet ever pops in to this thread anymore but interested on his take if he sees this.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E604pbJXEAw3svt?format=jpg&name=medium

[arista]

Yes Lord Frost
has to sort it.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

He's a liar. This was our oven ready deal.

[Ammi]

…this is just heartbreaking…he’s such a deceiver…







Brussels has insisted it will not renegotiate the EU’s Brexit deal with the UK after London inflamed tensions by launching a bold push to overhaul trading rules for Northern Ireland.

The renewed conflict came as it emerged British prime minister Boris Johnson wanted to renegotiate the so-called Northern Ireland protocol agreed with Brussels in 2019, even though it has only been in force since the beginning of the year.

Lord David Frost, Johnson’s Brexit minister, published a paper that proposed dismantling key parts of the protocol, which governs post-Brexit trade with Northern Ireland, including stripping the European Court of Justice of its role in policing it.

Most checks at Irish Sea ports on goods moving from Great Britain to Northern Ireland would be replaced by a new system largely based on the honesty of traders, with spot checks behind the border.

Maros Sefcovic, European Commission vice-president in charge of relations with the UK, said Brussels “will not agree to a renegotiation of the protocol”. Weeks or months of diplomatic wrangling lie ahead.






The issue could also increase tensions between US president Joe Biden, who describes himself as Irish, and Johnson. Brendan Boyle,*a Democratic Congressman and member of the Irish caucus on Capitol Hill, said “the British government has tried to evade its responsibilities under the protocol”.







“Their latest statement and proposed changes just continues this trend and serves only to further destabilise Northern Ireland,” he said.

Frost insisted Britain wanted to make the protocol work more effectively, but left open the possibility of London suspending it if Brussels refuses to accede to the demands. “We cannot go on as we are,” he said.

The post-Brexit status of Northern Ireland was identified by Frost as “the main obstacle” to building a productive, new UK-EU relationship. He wants to settle the issue permanently by rewriting the Johnson Brexit deal.

Frost is looking to “freeze” the current situation regarding Northern Ireland pending a negotiation which he admits would require reopening the treaty signed by the prime minister as part of his Brexit deal.

That would include indefinitely extending “grace periods” — waivers on border checks at Irish Sea ports on items such as chilled meats and parcels — until a new settlement is reached.

The grace periods are due to expire at the end of September, meaning that London and Brussels have only a matter of weeks to settle their fundamental differences over the future of the protocol.

Frost also wants the EU to suspend legal action against the UK over the operation of the protocol so that any negotiations on a new deal could proceed in a less fraught atmosphere.

Under the protocol, all goods shipped from GB to NI must follow the EU’s rules for customs and agrifood products, resulting in checks on the Irish Sea. The Brexit deal sought to avoid a hard border on the island of Ireland.

…full article…

https://www.ft.com/content/13ad8840-a83c-4871-a877-47b7001d839b

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/bakery/warburtons-struggling-to-keep-up-with-local-deliveries-as-driver-shortage-bites/658066.article?fbclid=IwAR1IfXbUFPiAmDS_axXZlIU2yh qlFpgwnNaN73YCUGXkr7ZPNwKJZQ8xll0#.YPnJEGmL618.fac ebook

Warburtons struggling to keep up with local deliveries as driver shortage bites

[Ammi]

…oh, not because of the pingdemic, then….the staff shortages for that company…?…but because European workers have left the U.K…?….

[The Slim Reaper]

…oh, not because of the pingdemic, then….the staff shortages for that company…?…but because European workers have left the U.K…?….

It's never been solely about the pingdemic, which is just exposing the problems of brexit. There's a reason everything is being blamed on the pingdemic...

[bots]

the whole order fulfilment process is fine tuned to be the most cost effective, and when something disrupts that whether it be the pindemic are basic lack of staff/drivers then it soon goes to rat. We are suffering both at the moment making it dodgy at best

[Ammi]

It's never been solely about the pingdemic, which is just exposing the problems of brexit. There's a reason everything is being blamed on the pingdemic...


…I’m just reading atm and it seems quite layered…?…but yeah, around 60,000 distribution drivers short because of a return to Europe …and U.K. drivers haven’t been able to complete training as replacements because of COVID restrictions factoring in…

[Ammi]

https://investmentmonitor.ai/business-activities/agribusiness/no-drivers-no-food-uk-food-shortage

[Withano]

Does anybody still believe this was a good idea (serious question). What’s the best thing about this?

[bots]

i'm fully convinced we will be back in the eurozone within a couple of years, it will just be done under the radar and under a different name

[Cherie]

1418606409810386948

https://www.thegrocer.co.uk/bakery/warburtons-struggling-to-keep-up-with-local-deliveries-as-driver-shortage-bites/658066.article?fbclid=IwAR1IfXbUFPiAmDS_axXZlIU2yh qlFpgwnNaN73YCUGXkr7ZPNwKJZQ8xll0#.YPnJEGmL618.fac ebook

Warburtons struggling to keep up with local deliveries as driver shortage bites

:joker:

the driver shortage is a perfect storm of 25,000 delayed tests, some exam current drivers have to do which costs them 5 days of work as well as 400.00 and Brexit

[Cherie]

anyone who didn't vote at the time and would have voted remain is just as culpable as those who voted out in my view :idc:

[user104658]

anyone who didn't vote at the time and would have voted remain is just as culpable as those who voted out in my view :idc:

Weeell... maybe, you can't make assumptions about what higher voter turnout would have resulted in, plenty of people who didn't bother to go out and vote would have voted Leave if their mates were voting Leave. There will have been many fully drinking the kool-aid from their couch, but not actually fussed enough about it to go and vote on the day.

[The Slim Reaper]

Weeell... maybe, you can't make assumptions about what higher voter turnout would have resulted in, plenty of people who didn't bother to go out and vote would have voted Leave if their mates were voting Leave. There will have been many fully drinking the kool-aid from their couch, but not actually fussed enough about it to go and vote on the day.

The comment is only made in reference to me, as the same comment has been made throughout numerous threads recently. I didn't vote in the referendum and yet I'm an outspoken critic of it.

Anyway...

Back to the thread


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[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_banners/420366322/1570124483/600x200

maybe this clown should update his twitter picture if he wants to be taken seiously

lol

[bots]

Weeell... maybe, you can't make assumptions about what higher voter turnout would have resulted in, plenty of people who didn't bother to go out and vote would have voted Leave if their mates were voting Leave. There will have been many fully drinking the kool-aid from their couch, but not actually fussed enough about it to go and vote on the day.

there were an awful lot of young folk who didnt bother to vote in the ref. The majority of them supported remain, so it's not inconceivable that the result could have been changed by their vote

Anyway, my opinion is that nothing is forever, and we will be back in the customs union under a different name within 10 years

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_banners/420366322/1570124483/600x200

maybe this clown should update his twitter picture if he wants to be taken seiously

lol



Yes he is Sloppy.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

more Brexit good news

:clap1:

Beefeater is horrific

[The Slim Reaper]

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[arista]

1429769337804632066



Thread made on Saturday 21st.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=377385

[bots]

Ian Botham, the former England cricketer known for legendary clashes with Australia, has been appointed UK government trade envoy to the country.

Lord Botham, along with Baroness Hoey and several MPs, have been made trade envoys to boost British business interests around the world.

International trade secretary Liz Truss tweeted the former all-rounder would "bat for UK business down under".

Lord Botham reportedly once said "Aussies are big and empty - just like the country", whereas he was affectionately known in the country as Guy the Gorilla.

He is one of 10 new trade envoys.

Baroness Hoey has been appointed to Ghana, while Stephen Timms MP has been assigned to Switzerland and Lichtenstein, and Sir Jeffrey Donaldson MP to Cameroon, in addition to his role as trade envoy to Egypt.

David Mundell MP has been appointed to New Zealand, Mark Eastwood MP to Pakistan, Marco Longhi MP to Brazil and Conor Burns MP to Canada .

Lord Walney has been assigned to Tanzania, while Felicity Buchan MP has been appointed to Iceland and Norway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3j3z7j2zdeo

How can that possibly fail Slim? :laugh:

[Nicky91]

Ian Botham, the former England cricketer known for legendary clashes with Australia, has been appointed UK government trade envoy to the country.

Lord Botham, along with Baroness Hoey and several MPs, have been made trade envoys to boost British business interests around the world.

International trade secretary Liz Truss tweeted the former all-rounder would "bat for UK business down under".

Lord Botham reportedly once said "Aussies are big and empty - just like the country", whereas he was affectionately known in the country as Guy the Gorilla.

He is one of 10 new trade envoys.

Baroness Hoey has been appointed to Ghana, while Stephen Timms MP has been assigned to Switzerland and Lichtenstein, and Sir Jeffrey Donaldson MP to Cameroon, in addition to his role as trade envoy to Egypt.

David Mundell MP has been appointed to New Zealand, Mark Eastwood MP to Pakistan, Marco Longhi MP to Brazil and Conor Burns MP to Canada .

Lord Walney has been assigned to Tanzania, while Felicity Buchan MP has been appointed to Iceland and Norway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3j3z7j2zdeo

How can that possibly fail Slim? :laugh:

yeah how on earth can that trade with australia go wrong :joker::joker:

[The Slim Reaper]

Ian Botham, the former England cricketer known for legendary clashes with Australia, has been appointed UK government trade envoy to the country.

Lord Botham, along with Baroness Hoey and several MPs, have been made trade envoys to boost British business interests around the world.

International trade secretary Liz Truss tweeted the former all-rounder would "bat for UK business down under".

Lord Botham reportedly once said "Aussies are big and empty - just like the country", whereas he was affectionately known in the country as Guy the Gorilla.

He is one of 10 new trade envoys.

Baroness Hoey has been appointed to Ghana, while Stephen Timms MP has been assigned to Switzerland and Lichtenstein, and Sir Jeffrey Donaldson MP to Cameroon, in addition to his role as trade envoy to Egypt.

David Mundell MP has been appointed to New Zealand, Mark Eastwood MP to Pakistan, Marco Longhi MP to Brazil and Conor Burns MP to Canada .

Lord Walney has been assigned to Tanzania, while Felicity Buchan MP has been appointed to Iceland and Norway.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3j3z7j2zdeo

How can that possibly fail Slim? :laugh:

I'm sure all the weirdo's criticising Rashford for not sticking to sport when he helped feed underprivileged kids, will be up in arms about this move :laugh:

It just reflects so poorly on us as a country, and shows we're not serious about anything and our policies are based on photo ops. We've replaced trade policy for after dinner speeches.

https://c.tenor.com/RPwldhoFncsAAAAC/partridge-this-country.gif

[Cherie]

Thread made on Saturday 21st.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=377385

Nut roast it is :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

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[bots]

botham has always been a prize tit, i find it incredulous that he has been given that appointment

[The Slim Reaper]

Today in sunlit uplands news...

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[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm sure all the weirdo's criticising Rashford for not sticking to sport when he helped feed underprivileged kids, will be up in arms about this move :laugh:

It just reflects so poorly on us as a country, and shows we're not serious about anything and our policies are based on photo ops. We've replaced trade policy for after dinner speeches.



Botham has not played cricket since 1993 so trying to compare him to a current PL player is futile

Botham is a member of the House of Lords

[The Slim Reaper]

Botham has not played cricket since 1993 so trying to compare him to a current PL player is futile

Botham is a member of the House of Lords

Botham Nov 2020: I “will be at Westminster more often when we get back to normal, especially when they are debating something I know about – like sport or the countryside. Not much point if it’s a trade deal with Japan”

He's in the HoL because he's loyal to Boris. Botham himself said he only knows about sports and the countryside so he's debunked your post with his own words :laugh:

Just to be clear for future reference, are you saying that only current sportspeople should stick to sports, but once you've retired you can speak openly and expertly about all manner of things?

That's an interesting take, for sure.

[Cherie]

Today in sunlit uplands news...

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we are all going to die of starvation :laugh: or trim the fat!

[arista]

Slim its not Totally Brexit
it is also Covid-19.
If only you would mention the Full picture?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Slim its not Totally Brexit
it is also Covid-19.
If only you would mention the Full picture?

exactly Arista

lets have facts

[The Slim Reaper]

Slim its not Totally Brexit
it is also Covid-19.
If only you would mention the Full picture?

Poultry farmers say it's brexit
Nando's who said brexit wouldn't affect them, now saying it's supply side caused by brexit
beefeater said it was brexit
farmers are saying they've been lied to about brexit
Fishermen saying they've been lied to about brexit
Exactly what was said would happen is happening.
No EU countries have food shortages
Zero EU maccies forced to cancel milkshakes.

Everything that was project fear is project reality and you're suggesting it's a coincidence?

[The Slim Reaper]

exactly Arista

lets have facts

Go for it, professor :hehe:

[bots]

we werent able to train new hgv drivers during the pandemic, we lost a lot of drivers over brexit. The combined effect has been worse than either on their own, but the drop in drivers happened because of brexit, so it was the main cause, that cannot be denied, no matter how hard people try to deflect

[The Slim Reaper]

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/aug/23/uk-food-firms-beg-ministers-to-let-them-use-prisoners-to-ease-labour-shortages

60 % of poultry factory workers were from the EU.

[The Slim Reaper]

we werent able to train new hgv drivers during the pandemic, we lost a lot of drivers over brexit. The combined effect has been worse than either on their own, but the drop in drivers happened because of brexit, so it was the main cause, that cannot be denied, no matter how hard people try to deflect

The government refuse to allow EU workers to step in because they don't want foreigners here, and have said they'd rather have food shortages :laugh:

The shortage is 100k drivers.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

This is not from the onion.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9dWffXWQAAoiaW?format=jpg&name=small

[Tom4784]

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[Cherie]

Is there no one unemployed in the UK then...maybe they could employ the ones that voted leave :hehe:

[Nicky91]

This is not from the onion.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9dWffXWQAAoiaW?format=jpg&name=small

ah yes, going back to the times of slavery

[Cherie]

I don't understand why they want prisoners when there are 4.7% unemployed, even taking out long term sick and disabled there are still fit and healthy people able to take up work, are the prisons full of meat processors or something :suspect:

oh wait they just want free labour....

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentandlabourmarket/peoplenotinwork/unemployment

[arista]

we werent able to train new hgv drivers during the pandemic, we lost a lot of drivers over brexit. The combined effect has been worse than either on their own, but the drop in drivers happened because of brexit, so it was the main cause, that cannot be denied, no matter how hard people try to deflect


Yes Slim
ignores that Fact.

[joeysteele]

It is Brexit in the main re the hgv drivers.

Without Brexit, all the hgv drivers needed were in place, so no need to have any positions to fill or in fact to train drivers either, that is for who, and if, any wanted to be trained to do it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes Slim
ignores that Fact.

The problem you have, Arista, is that I'm perfectly correct about it all, and you refuse to acknowledge reality.

[The Slim Reaper]

Slim its not Totally Brexit
it is also Covid-19.
If only you would mention the Full picture?

exactly Arista

lets have facts

We're waiting for the facts you promised us? :hehe:

[arista]

The problem you have, Arista, is that I'm perfectly correct about it all, and you refuse to acknowledge reality.


No I accept what you are saying
but it is not Brexit Alone,
If only you could agree?

Bloody China's Covid
halted our HGV drivers