The EU - Referendum - 23rd of June 2016 - in or out?

[smudgie]

I'm going to do something I never thought I would do in my life and agree with the conservatives, not entirely but I feel there should be a recruitment drive for the care sector. I think there should be a bigger push in schools towards this area.

Of course it needs shaking up with better pay, flexible working for parents and better regulation for the sector as a whole.

Yes.
No zero hour contracts either, training that ends with a qualification and a decent wage to reflect it.

[arista]

I'm going to do something I never thought I would do in my life and agree with the conservatives, not entirely but I feel there should be a recruitment drive for the care sector. I think there should be a bigger push in schools towards this area.

Of course it needs shaking up with better pay, flexible working for parents and better regulation for the sector as a whole.


Fair Enough Kizzy.

[Kizzy]

Yes.
No zero hour contracts either, training that ends with a qualification and a decent wage to reflect it.

Bingo! :D

[Twosugars]

Good luck with that! Cons providing decent working conditions :laugh:

[Twosugars]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Kizzy]

The latest is we does not need agriculture in England...or a fishing industry.

So all the accusations of the EU 'stealing' our fish and that was one reason given for brexit.... pffft

Lololololol

[arista]

Despite Covid 19

Johnson PM confirmed Brexit is Done
and because of Legislation it goes through

Today at the Covid PM Conference
in Downing Street.

And he said it in PMQ's

[arista]

Brexit is going ahead
its important not to have a Extension
We need our Money

The EU can save Italy

Conservatives are right to not Extend it.

Ref: Ch4HD News Live
Live Debate Ch5HD AM today
Last night BBC2HD Newsnight

[Kizzy]

Doh!!..

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/coronavirus-eu-economy-recovery-lockdown-stimulus-package-a9480996.html

[arista]

Barnier Live in Brussels
stated Johnson PM must end negotiations by the End of June
or another Extension.

End of June it will be
as there will not be any Extension

[Sticks]

A glorious No stinking Deal Hard Brexit, just what we all voted for

Time to fill the channel tunnel with cement!!!

[arista]

A glorious No stinking Deal Hard Brexit, just what we all voted for

Time to fill the channel tunnel with cement!!!


No as Those Trains bring Food into the UK.


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[arista]

Gove MP
Live in Parliament
Confirmed to 10 or more MP's
that there is No Delay to Brexit.
Brexit Goes ahead as planed

31st Jan 2021 Final Completion

[arista]

Good on The Labour Leader, yesterday
No to a Brexit Extension

[arista]

David Frost
working in the EU
Confirmed, again, the UK is leaving at the end of this year.
Despite no agreement reached.

By the end of June
the EU hopes for a deal signed.


Ref : BBCnewsHD

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Kizzy]

Brexit bullies...hmm shouldn't that headline be boris refuses to keep promises on EU? That's what the headline the day before said.

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[Liam-]

You mean, they lied? I am shocked!

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

same paper

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZ3_zb4XsAEKljX?format=jpg&name=large

[arista]

Yes a Silly term "Oven Ready."

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

SNP Pete Wishart.
Cabinet Office Spokesperson
Live in Parliament on a LED Screen
Just thanked Michael Gove MP who is in charge of Brexit
for ensuring Scottish Independence,
he wants a statue made............................................

[Liam-]

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[arista]

Sure Liam
The PM does not want anything in his way.................

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[arista]

Sure Slim
bound to be petty
now he has left his banking job.

[The Slim Reaper]

Sure Slim
bound to be petty
now he has left his banking job.

The data is provided. It's not pettiness. The leave alliance have also come out today and said brexit is a mess.

[Smithy]

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[arista]

The data is provided. It's not pettiness. The leave alliance have also come out today and said Brexit is a mess.


Sure Slim
But Brexit is done
the Trading is to be sorted soon.

[Kizzy]

Coronavirus has seen the UK up shiz creek without a paddle... We've alienated ourselves from the EU, nobody trusts trump with anything. What a godawful mess we're in :/

[The Slim Reaper]

Sure Slim
But Brexit is done
the Trading is to be sorted soon.

Boris called no-deal a "good option" the other day.

[The Slim Reaper]

Leave alliance trying to run away from brexit

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcOc6YPWAAAlijF?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Brother Leon]

The one positive of these disaster election results the last few years is that we can see the Brexit Gang realise that they had no clue what they were really voting for, and scramble to try blame anyone but themselves for the mess they will put us in.

[The Slim Reaper]

The one positive of these disaster election results the last few years is that we can see the Brexit Gang realise that they had no clue what they were really voting for, and scramble to try blame anyone but themselves for the mess they will put us in.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcPq7tEWAAEq2pV?format=jpg&name=medium

They didn't admit they didn't know what they were voting for at the time, they won't admit it now, they'll just look to blame remainers or the eu.

[Cherie]

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They didn't admit they didn't know what they were voting for at the time, they won't admit it now, they'll just look to blame remainers or the eu.

I voted remain but I don't take any pleasure from things looking likely to go pear shaped, I think that's the problem with politics at the moment, its so divisive, ha ha we told you so.... even though everyone gets hurt if it goes pear shaped so having the moral high ground won't mean much!

[The Slim Reaper]

I voted remain but I don't take any pleasure from things looking likely to go pear shaped, I think that's the problem with politics at the moment, its so divisive, ha ha we told you so.... even though everyone gets hurt if it goes pear shaped so having the moral high ground won't mean much!

You ok, Cherie, you seem to have a few issues with me today for some reason.

Yeah, you're right. All the things that were raised throughout the last 5 years and were ignored, or flat out dismissed as project fear are coming true, and the first thought is to say everyone's as bad as each other?

N'ah, the important part of that is no one believing us when it could/should have made a difference. 52% of the UK have been on track to sabotage the place in spite of the mountain of evidence of how things would turn out.

Do you think I haven't been saying that everyone gets hurt if things go wrong?

People have been cheerleading this sh1tshow for half a decade, enjoying taking rights away from future generations to protect the country from immigrants, because they've apparently only just found out that immigrants have been saving their lives during covid.

The arrogance of the "we know what we voted for" crowd, is not on par with a couple of dudes on a forum saying this is fcuking stupid.

[Cherie]

You ok, Cherie, you seem to have a few issues with me today for some reason.

Yeah, you're right. All the things that were raised throughout the last 5 years and were ignored, or flat out dismissed as project fear are coming true, and the first thought is to say everyone's as bad as each other?

N'ah, the important part of that is no one believing us when it could/should have made a difference. 52% of the UK have been on track to sabotage the place in spite of the mountain of evidence of how things would turn out.

Do you think I haven't been saying that everyone gets hurt if things go wrong?

People have been cheerleading this sh1tshow for half a decade, enjoying taking rights away from future generations to protect the country from immigrants, because they've apparently only just found out, that immigrants have been saving their lives during covid.

The arrogance of the "we know what we voted for" crowd, is not on par with a couple of dudes on a forum saying this is fcuking stupid.

No issue, in fact I put smilies on my other posts to denote gentle leg pulling :tongue:

[Cherie]

I actually feel a bit bereaved as we have to tell our EU students who are deferring due to Covid they will be paying overseas rates next year effectively doubling their fees to 30k plus

[bots]

i believe that we have a better chance of getting a deal now than we had before-covid. Yes, we could exit without a deal still, but businesses on both sides of the channel will be applying severe pressure to get a deal done. I'm considerably more hopeful than I was in January, although, admittedly that's not saying a lot

[The Slim Reaper]

i believe that we have a better chance of getting a deal now than we had before-covid. Yes, we could exit without a deal still, but businesses on both sides of the channel will be applying severe pressure to get a deal done. I'm considerably more hopeful than I was in January, although, admittedly that's not saying a lot

The UK have already gone back on stuff that was in the "oven ready deal" Boris said was done. It is in both parties interests, but it's not in the EU's interests to accept what we're demanding. We're after a victory rather than a trade deal, and the EU isn't giving us that.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Judge.]

HMMM Boris has put too much HMMM confidence in the USA filling the void of the EU HMMMM the same USA that bought all the worlds reserves of Remdesivir HMMMM not a very wise HMMMM thought..

[arista]

[The EU's chief negotiator Michel Barnier and the UK's David Frost
met for dinner last night for further Brexit talks.
The meal kicked off a series of more informal meetings
this week designed to break the Brexit stalemate.
They will be the first to take place in London,
with previously planned talks shelved due to coronavirus.]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11979739/brexit-news-latest-today-eu-live/

[The Slim Reaper]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Good move. I'd like to see restaurants/chains come out and say the same.

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Still pretending that a no-deal is more of a threat to the EU than the UK. Congrats brexiteers, you're really about to find out that you didn't know what you were voting for.

[joeysteele]

Still pretending that a no-deal is more of a threat to the EU than the UK. Congrats brexiteers, you're really about to find out that you didn't know what you were voting for.

I totally agree.

I don't think even the government's have much of a clue either.

They were no doubt mandated to get Brexit over with.
They are it seems hell bent on doing so too, with it seems again, bad planning.
Needing to spend more and more again to prepare for whatever it is.

As it seems they, the EU and we the lowly subjects have little to no idea whatt the Brexit situation will end up being.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

More project fear coming true.

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/brexit-uk-travellers-eu-passport-insurance-pets-a9615276.html

UK TRAVELLERS TO EU FACE HIGHER COSTS AND TANGLE OF RED TAPE

British travellers face the worst possible outcome once the Brexit transition period ends, the government has confirmed.

Promises that the European Health Insurance Card (Ehic) scheme would continue have been dashed, meaning travellers to the EU will face sharply increased travel insurance premiums.

UK visitors to the European Union are being urged to check their passport expiry dates.

Motorists are told they “may” require an international driving permit, as well as complying with additional insurance.

Pet owners who intend to take their dog or cat abroad from the start of 2021 must begin preparations by 1 September this year. And free mobile-phone roaming may end.

The government has launched an information campaign that reveals previous assurances have been abandoned.

Since the EU referendum in 2016, the government has said repeatedly that it wished to agree reciprocal health-care terms to replace the Ehic.

But that plan has been abandoned. Instead, British travellers will be expected to meet the full cost of their treatment in EU countries, as well as Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland.

This will increase the cost of travel insurance – especially for older travellers and those with pre-existing medical conditions.

The government says: “It’s particularly important you get travel insurance with the right cover if you have a pre-existing medical condition.

“This is because the Ehic scheme covers pre-existing conditions, while many travel insurance policies do not.”

Many such people currently choose not to insure for visits to Europe, knowing that they will qualify for free or very inexpensive health care.

At present British passports are valid for travel anywhere in the EU up to and including the date of expiry.

But from 1 January 2021, they will need both to have at least six months of validity remaining and to have been issued no more than nine years and six months remaining.

A rush to renew will add to the large backlog of passport applications has build up during the coronavirus crisis.

The government is not clear about motoring rules. It says: “You may need extra documents from 1 January 2021.

“You might need an international driving permit (IDP) to drive in some countries.

“If you’re taking your own vehicle, you might also need a ‘green card’ or valid proof of insurance and a GB sticker.”

Pet owners face rules so complex that the BBC’s assistant political editor, Norman Smith, said: “Speaking as a dog owner it looks to me frankly such a faff, you are just not going to bother.”

On the Today programme, he explained: “You are going to have to take your pet to the vet to get a rabies vaccination. You’ll then have to return a month later to get a blood test, send that blood test to an EU laboratory.

“Their vet will then send back the ‘OK’. You’ll then have to wait another three months before you can go.

“I’m just thinking: pets of Great Britain, you can say farewell to the Dordogne.”

Mobile phone charges may soar because users will no longer be protected by the EU’s “roam like at home” rules.

[Ammi]

Social care workers do not qualify for the government's new health and care visa under the UK's post-Brexit immigration system, Downing Street has confirmed.

Home Secretary Priti Patel has unveiled details of how the UK's new points-based system will operate when it comes into effect on 1 January next year, after EU freedom of movement rules end.

A health and care visa will provide a route for key health professionals to work in the UK.

However, this will not include social care workers, Number 10 revealed.


https://news.sky.com/story/care-workers-do-not-qualify-for-health-visa-in-new-post-brexit-immigration-plans-12027646

[arista]

"However, this will not include social care workers, Number 10 revealed"

Yes that needs correcting.

[Cherie]

"However, this will not include social care workers, Number 10 revealed"

Yes that needs correcting.

How was it overlooked? I actually despair an how badly people do their jobs

[Cherie]

More project fear coming true.

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/brexit-uk-travellers-eu-passport-insurance-pets-a9615276.html

UK TRAVELLERS TO EU FACE HIGHER COSTS AND TANGLE OF RED TAPE

British travellers face the worst possible outcome once the Brexit transition period ends, the government has confirmed.

Promises that the European Health Insurance Card (Ehic) scheme would continue have been dashed, meaning travellers to the EU will face sharply increased travel insurance premiums.

UK visitors to the European Union are being urged to check their passport expiry dates.

Motorists are told they “may” require an international driving permit, as well as complying with additional insurance.

Pet owners who intend to take their dog or cat abroad from the start of 2021 must begin preparations by 1 September this year. And free mobile-phone roaming may end.

The government has launched an information campaign that reveals previous assurances have been abandoned.

Since the EU referendum in 2016, the government has said repeatedly that it wished to agree reciprocal health-care terms to replace the Ehic.

But that plan has been abandoned. Instead, British travellers will be expected to meet the full cost of their treatment in EU countries, as well as Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland.

This will increase the cost of travel insurance – especially for older travellers and those with pre-existing medical conditions.

The government says: “It’s particularly important you get travel insurance with the right cover if you have a pre-existing medical condition.

“This is because the Ehic scheme covers pre-existing conditions, while many travel insurance policies do not.”

Many such people currently choose not to insure for visits to Europe, knowing that they will qualify for free or very inexpensive health care.

At present British passports are valid for travel anywhere in the EU up to and including the date of expiry.

But from 1 January 2021, they will need both to have at least six months of validity remaining and to have been issued no more than nine years and six months remaining.

A rush to renew will add to the large backlog of passport applications has build up during the coronavirus crisis.

The government is not clear about motoring rules. It says: “You may need extra documents from 1 January 2021.

“You might need an international driving permit (IDP) to drive in some countries.

“If you’re taking your own vehicle, you might also need a ‘green card’ or valid proof of insurance and a GB sticker.”

Pet owners face rules so complex that the BBC’s assistant political editor, Norman Smith, said: “Speaking as a dog owner it looks to me frankly such a faff, you are just not going to bother.”

On the Today programme, he explained: “You are going to have to take your pet to the vet to get a rabies vaccination. You’ll then have to return a month later to get a blood test, send that blood test to an EU laboratory.

“Their vet will then send back the ‘OK’. You’ll then have to wait another three months before you can go.

“I’m just thinking: pets of Great Britain, you can say farewell to the Dordogne.”

Mobile phone charges may soar because users will no longer be protected by the EU’s “roam like at home” rules.

When Mr C and I were in Spain in Feb they are already changed the signage at the airport customs to UK/Overseas and EU, we smirked at each other as we can skip off the plane and head through the EU channel and be on our way while the Brits are queuing :smug:

[arista]

How was it overlooked? I actually despair an how badly people do their jobs


They will have to change it
this week I would hope


Gove MP in Parliament taking EU Questions now

[The Slim Reaper]

How was it overlooked? I actually despair an how badly people do their jobs

It wasn't overlooked. It was intentional

When Mr C and I were in Spain in Feb they are already changed the signage at the airport customs to UK/Overseas and EU, we smirked at each other as we can skip off the plane and head through the EU channel and be on our way while the Brits are queuing :smug:

Bloody micks and their EU passports.

[The Slim Reaper]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Boris Johnson's ‘Oven-Ready’ Brexit Deal Was Another Half-Baked Lie – Byline Times <a href="https://t.co/EkABV4zC6R">https://t.co/EkABV4zC6R</a></p>&mdash; Byline Times (@BylineTimes) <a href="https://twitter.com/BylineTimes/status/1282692877450125314?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 13, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Ammi]

...not another tagline...the oven ready deal...

[The Slim Reaper]

...not another tagline...the oven ready deal...

3 word slogans work on those that don't want to think about anything.

[Ammi]

3 word slogans work on those that don't want to think about anything.

...I can think of a 3 word slogan for Boris....actually, I think it might only be two words, that’s how rubbish I am at slogans...

[The Slim Reaper]

Thatcher took milk, Boris taking it out on the poor again.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ending free transport could mean some of the most disadvantaged children in London may not return to school in September, teachers have warned <a href="https://t.co/Slq1zeUGSM">https://t.co/Slq1zeUGSM</a></p>&mdash; SkyNews (@SkyNews) <a href="https://twitter.com/SkyNews/status/1281889892411351040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 11, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Today the UK govt publishes a UK internal market White Paper that extols the virtues of 'frictionless trade' and free movement: boosting wages, productivity, investment, business certainty and lowering prices. <br><br>Irony so bitter it makes your eyes bleed. <a href="https://t.co/u7bS5csKJm">https://t.co/u7bS5csKJm</a> <a href="https://t.co/1yW3JGQi3q">pic.twitter.com/1yW3JGQi3q</a></p>&mdash; Peter Foster (@pmdfoster) <a href="https://twitter.com/pmdfoster/status/1283814116885495810?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 16, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[The Slim Reaper]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">As it stands, there are no such new trade agreements, while few economists believe that whatever replaces single market participation with our largest trading partner will benefit the UK. <a href="https://t.co/AZNCJ5ni2j">https://t.co/AZNCJ5ni2j</a></p>&mdash; Steve Peers (@StevePeers) <a href="https://twitter.com/StevePeers/status/1284175297487806464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 17, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[arista]

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[arista]

Ex-cricketer Sir Ian Botham 'to be made
a lord as reward for Brexit loyalty


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[Ammi]

...Brexit Boys Club, is it...will that be like the Masons, then...is there a special Brexit handshake..?..

[arista]

...Brexit Boys Club, is it...will that be like the Masons, then...is there a special Brexit handshake..?..


No
all types of folks voted for it

[Sticks]

I wonder how the majority of the Bullingdon Club voted, of which Boris was a paid up member...

[The Slim Reaper]

No
all types of stupid folks voted for it

Fixed.

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This is a huge deal.<br><br>At the end of the transition period, the Amazon marketplace will effectively no longer allow you to continue stocking in the UK and selling into Europe (or vice versa) as you do today.<a href="https://t.co/hFAPXxgUYq">https://t.co/hFAPXxgUYq</a></p>&mdash; Dmitry Grozoubinski (@DmitryOpines) <a href="https://twitter.com/DmitryOpines/status/1284806225956409344?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[arista]

They are now saying Sept /Oct
for a Deal.

[arista]

Fixed.

No
all types of folks voted for it

[Sticks]

They are now saying Sept /Oct
for a Deal.

BUT WE DON'T WANT ANY STINKIN DEALS DO WE!!!

OI LOADS OF MONEY.....

To quote an old Harry Hill character from the 1980's might say...

[The Slim Reaper]

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IDS basically saying he didn't know what he was voting for, because the realisation is starting to hit home what exactly they've done to the country.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Sticks]

We're leaving without a deal
We're leaving without a deal
Rejoice oh joy oh joy
We're leaving without a deal

Sunny golden uplands and a new age of prosperity and looking forward to the nice shiny hard border across Ulster

And to quote a secretary of state, "Why wouldn't you want that?"

[Nicky91]

We're leaving without a deal
We're leaving without a deal
Rejoice oh joy oh joy
We're leaving without a deal

Sunny golden uplands and a new age of prosperity and looking forward to the nice shiny hard border across Ulster

And to quote a secretary of state, "Why wouldn't you want that?"

:cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2::cheer2:

EU to make netherlands in loads of debt too


i love the EU :clap1: :clap1:

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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Absolutely shameless.

[arista]

They will get a Deal.

[Ammi]

Dossier reveals worst-case scenario if no-deal Brexit and second Covid wave coincide...


The military may be drafted in to airdrop food to the Channel Islands under emergency plans drawn up by the government to protect the UK if a second coronavirus wave coincides with a no-deal Brexit.

A Cabinet Office “reasonable worst-case scenario” document, leaked to The Sun newspaper, also warns the Navy may be needed to stop British fishermen clashing with illegal European fishing boat incursions.

It says parts of the UK may face power and petrol shortages if thousands of lorries are stranded in Dover while shortages of medicines caused by port blockages could lead to animal diseases spreading through the countryside.

The classified document, dated July 2020, further warns that if trade restrictions triggered by a no-deal Brexit are combined with floods, flu and another coronavirus wave, then hospitals may be overwhelmed.


https://www.itv.com/news/2020-08-23/dossier-reveals-worst-case-scenario-if-no-deal-brexit-and-second-covid-wave-coincide


...there is so much with COVID and schools being back etc, for the government to distract with ever changing measures...from how much scarier it’s going to get with Brexit looming...Some might already be ‘panic buying’ and storing...it’ll be interesting in the coming months...

[Nicky91]

Dossier reveals worst-case scenario if no-deal Brexit and second Covid wave coincide...


The military may be drafted in to airdrop food to the Channel Islands under emergency plans drawn up by the government to protect the UK if a second coronavirus wave coincides with a no-deal Brexit.

A Cabinet Office “reasonable worst-case scenario” document, leaked to The Sun newspaper, also warns the Navy may be needed to stop British fishermen clashing with illegal European fishing boat incursions.

It says parts of the UK may face power and petrol shortages if thousands of lorries are stranded in Dover while shortages of medicines caused by port blockages could lead to animal diseases spreading through the countryside.

The classified document, dated July 2020, further warns that if trade restrictions triggered by a no-deal Brexit are combined with floods, flu and another coronavirus wave, then hospitals may be overwhelmed.


https://www.itv.com/news/2020-08-23/dossier-reveals-worst-case-scenario-if-no-deal-brexit-and-second-covid-wave-coincide


...there is so much with COVID and schools being back etc, for the government to distract with ever changing measures...from how much scarier it’s going to get with Brexit looming...Some might already be ‘panic buying’ and storing...it’ll be interesting in the coming months...

fake news, what no one on here will believe

No Deal Brexit is best for UK

[Ammi]

...I think that the government have confirmed what was in the leaked documents, Nicky...that was the link that I was looking for that I read yesterday...I just can’t find it atm...

[The Slim Reaper]

fake news, what no one on here will believe

No Deal Brexit is best for UK

What?

[The Slim Reaper]

I'm old enough to remember 8 moths ago when Boris said he already agreed his oven ready deal.

And I'm definitely old enough to remember this.

https://i.redd.it/7h8bg8oejx751.jpg

Every single aspect of project fear is project truth, and crazies still trying to convince themselves they knew what they voted for, and that Boris even wants a deal.

[Ammi]

...so long as he gets to further his career...I mean, that’s all that matters...goal achieved, eh...

[arista]

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[Sticks]

Because we want No stinking deals, don't we?

Altogether now...

[joeysteele]

...so long as he gets to further his career...I mean, that’s all that matters...goal achieved, eh...

That's been his only interest really.

He was one who made one of the strongest arguments FOR the EU.
Then he saw a career opportunity from the folly of Cameron and went on the other side.

A side he used to get control of enough in his Party to eventually lead it within a little over 2 years.

Then his deceit and lies on his so called oven ready deal, in the last election.
Which sadly enough although NOT the majority of voters fell for.

He's achieved the titles he coveted in his career, he was London Mayor, Foreign secretary, ( one of the worst ever in my view), then Con leader and Prime Minister, winning an ejection under this now discredited electoral system, of a handsome majority.

Really it's likely downhill for him now.
So the star, a very dark star sadly his was, will more or less just keep fading now.

He's got all he wanted in the last decade.

He thankfully cannot ascend to be the Monarch so if he wants to retire gracefully on a high, I hope he'll do it.
Because to me, he is the worst PM this Nation has had for his endless deceit and blatant lies even.
His uncompromising control attitude he has.

Now, he may yet realise his gift back for winning the leadership of the Con party to the extreme elements of his party re Europe.
As in a no deal brexit or really poor deal.

Leaving the Nation and leading the Nation into even more of a disaster.

However as you say, goal achieved yet all on minority votes in an election result.
Sitting there with a heavy overall majority with 56% of voters not voting for his party.
Mind you the system has stunk for over a decade.
Labour won in 2005 with a 58 overall majority with over 60% of voters voting against it then.

What a total horrendous mess our whole political structure is in.

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/1330D/production/_114150687_express.jpg

[Nicky91]

That's been his only interest really.

He was one who made one of the strongest arguments FOR the EU.
Then he saw a career opportunity from the folly of Cameron and went on the other side.

A side he used to get control of enough in his Party to eventually lead it within a little over 2 years.

Then his deceit and lies on his so called oven ready deal, in the last election.
Which sadly enough although NOT the majority of voters fell for.

He's achieved the titles he coveted in his career, he was London Mayor, Foreign secretary, ( one of the worst ever in my view), then Con leader and Prime Minister, winning an ejection under this now discredited electoral system, of a handsome majority.

Really it's likely downhill for him now.
So the star, a very dark star sadly his was, will more or less just keep fading now.

He's got all he wanted in the last decade.

He thankfully cannot ascend to be the Monarch so if he wants to retire gracefully on a high, I hope he'll do it.
Because to me, he is the worst PM this Nation has had for his endless deceit and blatant lies even.
His uncompromising control attitude he has.

Now, he may yet realise his gift back for winning the leadership of the Con party to the extreme elements of his party re Europe.
As in a no deal brexit or really poor deal.

Leaving the Nation and leading the Nation into even more of a disaster.

However as you say, goal achieved yet all on minority votes in an election result.
Sitting there with a heavy overall majority with 56% of voters not voting for his party.
Mind you the system has stunk for over a decade.
Labour won in 2005 with a 58 overall majority with over 60% of voters voting against it then.

What a total horrendous mess our whole political structure is in.

exactly, and what a timing now too with the coronacrisis, and no economic support for britain from EU either, because each EU nation can count on support from a covid-aidpackage

Britain is on its own, and counting on support from US, no cannot see that one happening either, since US needs to protect its own economy

[The Slim Reaper]

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[arista]

Sure Slim
that was June 2016
before China's Deadly Covid-19 Worldwide Deaths

[The Slim Reaper]

Sure Slim
that was June 2016
before China's Deadly Covid-19 Worldwide Deaths

Coronavirus is responsible for our incompetent government forcing a no-deal and killing our rights? You're not stupid, so don't patronise yourself.

[arista]

Coronavirus is responsible for our incompetent government? You're not stupid, so don't patronise yourself.


China's Covid-19
has changed the World Forever




That why 2016 words are useless.

[Ammi]

...poor Boris, why’s everybody always pickin’ on me...:sad:...because Covid, Covid, Covid...don’t need to take no responsibility no more, it was Covid what did it, sir...

[The Slim Reaper]

China's Covid-19
has changed the World Forever




That why 2016 words are useless.

Covid has nothing to do with these rights being taken away that were promised never would be. This was all project fear. It's project truth, and rather than you accepting it, you've gone all Trumpian on about a china virus that has fcuk all to do with brexit.

[arista]

...poor Boris, why’s everybody always pickin’ on me...:sad:...because Covid, Covid, Covid...don’t need to take no responsibility no more, it was Covid what did it, sir...


Also Ammi
Poor Macron
in France thinking of another national lockdown.

[The Slim Reaper]

Boris' oven ready brexit deal was passed last year, before covid was even known about.

[arista]

Boris' oven ready brexit deal was passed last year, before covid was even known about.


So What
China's Deadly Covid-19
has changed all plans in the world

[The Slim Reaper]

So What
China's Deadly Covid-19
has changed all plans in the world

So it's forced a no deal onto us? You're not making any sense and just looking for anything to blame the failed promises of brexit on. Will you admit that was was promised is the opposite of what we have? Be honest.

[arista]

So it's forced a no deal onto us? You're not making any sense and just looking for anything to blame the failed promises of brexit on. Will you admit that was promised is the opposite of what we have? Be honest.


Of course not
but everything has changed,
because of China's Deadly Covid-19
has changed everything in the world.

[The Slim Reaper]

Of course not
but everything has changed,
because of China's Deadly Covid-19
has changed everything in the world.

So explain how brexit has been affected by covid, in terms of negotiations and results. No more 3 word replies, and will you admit that what was promised is the opposite of where we are?

[arista]

So explain how brexit has been affected by covid, in terms of negotiations and results. No more 3 word replies, and will you admit that what was promised is the opposite of where we are?


Sure
they are yet to reach a deal.

[The Slim Reaper]

Sure
they are yet to reach a deal.

There isn't a deal around that will achieve what was promised. Do you accept that?

Why did you vote for brexit?

[arista]

There isn't a deal around that will achieve what was promised. Do you accept that?

Why did you vote for Brexit?


There is a modified deal they can sign before December.


And of course it will Not be what was promised.

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Project fear.

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[arista]

http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/117BF/production/_114251617_express.jpg

[The Slim Reaper]

More taking back control.

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[arista]

http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/133C1/production/_114258787_page1.jpg

[arista]

http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/10CB1/production/_114258786_ex6.jpg

[arista]

must be done by Thursday 15 October
The prime minister said the UK was
entering the "final phase" of negotiations, which resume on Tuesday.]

https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-boris-johnson-tells-eu-that-free-trade-deal-must-be-done-by-15-october-12065508

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/jIITsbfukduvxiiOqFOnlw/https/media.fyre.co/rWR86fFRYea473D8xeAu_0709%20Express.JPG

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/lcoNwBui3Gp_sKhjoLWWrQ/https/media.fyre.co/3jN0alBiSpmcrMaVDYPr_0709%20Telegraph.JPG

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/iZ_FVEcvMpCJqQj_5SIl0Q/https/media.fyre.co/tphqzJbSRGudqXpRiT9i_0709%20Times.JPG

[bots]

if a good deal can be something that includes restrictive and more expensive trade practices then yes, it can be a good outcome

[arista]

Great Live Debate on Radio5 was on 10AM - 10:28AM
Brexit

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1302700233353117696/HaS6yQ-O?format=jpg&name=900x900

[The Slim Reaper]

Tories talking about going back on the agreement and fcuking over Ireland (again) to force a no deal, despite that agreement being the "oven ready deal" he campaigned on.

About to be the first country in history to put sanctions on itself, and no one even bothers to defend this crap anymore. Brexiteers are terrorists.

[arista]

Tories talking about going back on the agreement and fcuking over Ireland (again) to force a no deal, despite that agreement being the "oven ready deal" he campaigned on.

About to be the first country in history to put sanctions on itself, and no one even bothers to defend this crap anymore. Brexiteers are terrorists.


It's too Early to get so onesided

Slim.

[bots]

It's too Early to get so onesided

Slim.

too early Arista ... are you kidding?

Boris promised that getting a free trade deal would be simple, we now have a deadline in 1 month to get a deal. When would it be appropriate to question it then?

[The Slim Reaper]

It's too Early to get so onesided

Slim.

We leave for good in 3 months, and your racist brexit experiment is about to royally screw over every person on the islands, because if only somebody could have warned us that government policy should never be based on fear of people from different countries.


Taking freedoms away from ourselves to work and live in the EU, so we can make ourselves more insular. A local country for local people.

[The Slim Reaper]

too early Arista ... are you kidding?

Boris promised that getting a free trade deal would be simple, we now have a deadline in 1 month to get a deal. When would it be appropriate to question it then?

Easiest trade deal in history. The day after the referendum the germans will be begging us, the french want to sell us wine and cheese etc. All lies that conned the mouth breathers we could hate foreigners and face no consequences when it comes to global trade.

[arista]

We leave for good in 3 months, and your racist brexit experiment is about to royally screw over every person on the islands, because if only somebody could have warned us that government policy should never be based on fear of people from different countries.


Taking freedoms away from ourselves to work and live in the EU, so we can make ourselves more insular. A local country for local people.


Yes the Former PM
Lady buggered it up.


It is great Johnson PM is going ahead
deal or no deal.
Unlike the Former Pathetic PM.

[arista]

too early Arista ... are you kidding?

Boris promised that getting a free trade deal would be simple, we now have a deadline in 1 month to get a deal. When would it be appropriate to question it then?


PMQ's on my new thread

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=369706

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes the Former PM
Lady buggered it up.


It is great Johnson PM is going ahead
deal or no deal.
Unlike the Former Pathetic PM.

Nothing to do with May. Boris got an oven ready deal backed by the tories and now they're planning legislation the will screw the good friday agreement, and key aspects of the oven ready deal. May was horrendous, but this mess is nothing to do with her.

Will you admit this is a disaster?

[arista]

Nothing to do with May. Boris got an oven ready deal backed by the tories and now they're planning legislation the will screw the good friday agreement, and key aspects of the oven ready deal. May was horrendous, but this mess is nothing to do with her.

Will you admit this is a disaster?



No as the Deal can still be done



The Former PM buggered up Brexit
thats why they Fired her.

[Sticks]

But we don't want any stinkin deals!!!

We want NO DEAL
A nice hard shiny border and an end to the Good Friday surrender to the IRA
"And Why wouldn't you want that" to quote a SoS

[joeysteele]

too early Arista ... are you kidding?

Boris promised that getting a free trade deal would be simple, we now have a deadline in 1 month to get a deal. When would it be appropriate to question it then?

This for me..

People who voted for and trusted Johnson have put in my view a very dangerous individual in power.

Any chaos that now loons if he gets his no deal position to please the most extreme in his party and a minority of voters.
Is down to those who voted this power mad self styled buffoon into leadership in the first place.
Then voters who confirmed him as PM.

His deceit has no boundaries whatsoever in my view.

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

No as the Deal can still be done



The Former PM buggered up Brexit
thats why they Fired her.

May couldn't get a deal trough parliament. Boris got his "oven-ready deal" through, and now they've realised it's crap.

[arista]

May couldn't get a deal trough parliament. Boris got his "oven-ready deal" through, and now they've realised it's crap.



Yes it got Burnt in the Oven.

[arista]

It's all down to Trust
tomorrow we find out
what Johnson PM has sent to the EU.


Ref: Ch4HDnews,All Out Politics SkyNewsHD,
& BBC2HD Politics Live.

[arista]

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[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/G_8n9IcfLcP759qAsZ99Mg/https/media.fyre.co/4sKvALA6QfyJ3fUw0vRA_0809%20Telegraph.JPG

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Ammi]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/BuX9DsvMquFaaSD67bCnxg/https/media.fyre.co/WZ9g2cWLThuI1379hsOH_0809%20Guardian.JPG

...yeah, tell us about it Brussels...you are not kidding us, baby...

[bots]

it's going to be a case of who blinks first, i think it will go right to the wire

[The Slim Reaper]

it's going to be a case of who blinks first, i think it will go right to the wire

Sorry bots, but this is just really ignorant. We agreed to the deal, Boris campaigned on the deal, Boris won a massive majority on the back of the deal, the tories voted the deal through parliament, refusing an extension to give us time to iron out anything we didn't like.

The fact the tories now want to rip this up, screwing over Ireland in the process because they don't like what's in the deal, speaks to the absolute worst of the fraudulent chancers that run the government.

We've always had far more to lose than the EU and so trying to screw them over is no way to get what we want out of any negotiations. This is purely a play to shift the blame of this disastrous brexit onto the EU.

It's disgraceful what Boris is doing; but their mates taking advantage of tax havens is far more important than what happens working people up and down the islands.

[The Slim Reaper]

1303309306167787520

[Ammi]

1303309306167787520

...some of the replying tweets...

Try using that in Court����
I know I was doing 200mph on the M1 but only in one lane, your honour ������

"I did break into the bank you honour but only in a very specific and limited way."

...just so true and so completely sickening...but he’s always the manipulator for his own gain, isn’t he...he never lets us down there...I mean, Britain is almost great again and it’s government doesn’t screw it’s people over, does it...nope...

[The Slim Reaper]

...some of the replying tweets...

Try using that in Court🤣🤣
I know I was doing 200mph on the M1 but only in one lane, your honour 🤣🤣🤣

"I did break into the bank you honour but only in a very specific and limited way."

...just so true and so completely sickening...but he’s always the manipulator for his own gain, isn’t he...he never lets us down there...I mean, Britain is almost great again and it’s government doesn’t screw it people over, does it...nope...

It's crazy to think any negotiator will treat us more seriously because we're willing to break the law to avoid an agreement we made less than a year ago. This is a whole different level of brexiteer rationale and delusion.

How can anyone negotiate in good faith with people like this?

[Ammi]

It's crazy to think any negotiator will treat us more seriously because we're willing to break the law to avoid an agreement we made less than a year ago. This is a whole different level of brexiteer rationale and delusion.

How can anyone negotiate in good faith with people like this?

...yeah, the negotiations are a big thing, aren’t they...they’re of huge importance...it’s a time when it really matters ‘what people think’...as in other countries...?..but it’s also the values that it was meant to represent in being ‘great again’...because being part of Europe, obviously didn’t make us great at all...We as a country want our laws to be stricter in the justice system, it’s often said...but we’re fine with breaking the law../..to overlooking the law being broken and manipulated and not even for our gain but for personal gain...when is this ‘time of greatness’ going to come for us...because Boris is determined to postpone and delay it as long as possible...

[bots]

the UK and Europe have already been negotiating around the deal for years, extending the deadline wouldn't achieve anything. It needs a proper cutoff. The EU are well known for taking things to the wire. It's their typical behaviour. May was a dreadful negotiator ... it needs to be tough and she was anything but. Personally, i still think there will be a deal, but if there isn't well we will just need to get on with it until a deal appears down the line ... which will come. It's up to party's to take a position and fight it at the next election.

[Ammi]

the UK and Europe have already been negotiating around the deal for years, extending the deadline wouldn't achieve anything. It needs a proper cutoff. The EU are well known for taking things to the wire. It's their typical behaviour. May was a dreadful negotiator ... it needs to be tough and she was anything but. Personally, i still think there will be a deal, but if there isn't well we will just need to get on with it until a deal appears down the line ... which will come. It's up to party's to take a position and fight it at the next election.

...but ‘just have to get on with it..’...isn’t the line anyone was sold, though...I’m sure that there will be Brexit voters who feel completely let down by ‘just get on with it...’...when the ‘down the line‘ they were led to believe in was a Britain that was going to be great again...

[Ammi]

...seriously, we care about Rule Britannia being sung at an event but we don’t care if the laws of that ‘Britannia’ are manipulated in our name...

[bots]

...but ‘just have to get on with it..’...isn’t the line anyone was sold, though...I’m sure that there will be Brexit voters who feel completely let down by ‘just get on with it...’...when the ‘down the line‘ they were led to believe in was a Britain that was going to be great again...

i voted for remain, and i didn't vote in the last election, so i am no Boris supporter, but I do know that the EU can be intransigent right to the last moment. It is still perfectly possible we will get a deal. However, i am a realist, so I believe we deal with the issues we face as we experience them, so we will have to get on with it ... to think any other way is pointless

[The Slim Reaper]

the UK and Europe have already been negotiating around the deal for years, extending the deadline wouldn't achieve anything. It needs a proper cutoff. The EU are well known for taking things to the wire. It's their typical behaviour. May was a dreadful negotiator ... it needs to be tough and she was anything but. Personally, i still think there will be a deal, but if there isn't well we will just need to get on with it until a deal appears down the line ... which will come. It's up to party's to take a position and fight it at the next election.

All of this is meaningless when you accept the fact we are happy to break the law to renege on a deal that everyone signed up for. It's ridiculous to treat this as a both sides negotiating standoff. The EU aren't doing anything wrong, they have 27 member states to fight for, we have 1.

[The Slim Reaper]

Perfectly normal

1303271358370058240

[Ammi]

i voted for remain, and i didn't vote in the last election, so i am no Boris supporter, but I do know that the EU can be intransigent right to the last moment. It is still perfectly possible we will get a deal. However, i am a realist, so I believe we deal with the issues we face as we experience them, so we will have to get on with it ... to think any other way is pointless

....hmmmm, I guess that we’re going to have to disagree on many things, bots..because...( ...as difficult as deciding on voting sometimes is with the choices we have..)...‘Realism’ comes in many shapes and sizes also and voting goes a little toward trying to ensure that we don’t have to just get on with it because voting is the only realistic step toward any change being possible ....


...obviously I’m a Remain voter as well, you might have guessed that...:laugh:...but I’m sure that there will be Brexit voters as well who feel completely let down by ‘just get on with it...

[The Slim Reaper]

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhZN1wqXkAANpUw?format=jpg&name=medium

[Liam-]

Not those criminals!

[arista]

Perfectly normal

1303271358370058240


[Senior government lawyer quits over Brexit plans]


Yes Slim
another one bites the dust.


[It is understood Sir Jonathan Jones, permanent
secretary to the Government Legal Department,
was unhappy with a new bill to be unveiled on Wednesday.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54072347

[arista]

Not those criminals!


It's not the end of the world.

[The Slim Reaper]

It's not the end of the world.

Is all law breaking acceptable now? Are you going to delete your illegal migration thread? :smug: Or is it only white criminals doing things you want that isn't the end of the world?

[arista]

Is all law breaking acceptable now? Are you going to delete your illegal migration thread? :smug: Or is it only white criminals doing things you want that isn't the end of the world?

Of course not

[Sticks]

If Boris is doing it, it is perfectly acceptable - Nuff Said.

[arista]

Pound continues fall as Brexit fears rear up again

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54069083

[Sticks]

But once we have a hard no deal brexit we will all be filthy rich and it will be a new golden age of prosperity for all..

Only those traitors spreading project fear on steroids will disagree.

Are you a traitor?


Thus goes the argument . . . :bored:

[joeysteele]

Trust Johnson.
Not a chance from me, the man is an obsessed deceiver.

[arista]

http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/1418F/production/_114291328_ft.jpg

[arista]

Trust Johnson.
Not a chance from me, the man is an obsessed deceiver.


He was Smiling yesterday
as he walked to another building.


http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/1689F/production/_114291329_guardian.jpg

[arista]

http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/8227/production/_114291333_i.jpg

[Ammi]

...I’m sure that BB is tracking TiBB all of the time and using things we’ve said...with the Rule Britannia thing..?...that’s a good pun though, I hadn’t thought of that, I was too busy ranting...when Britannia waives the rules in something so important, not even a blink of the eye...but the thought of lyrics not being sung...(...because of virus restriction...)...the very awful outraged cheek of it all...can we please protect the greatness of Britain and traditions etc...it’s all crazy stuff in a very non funny way...I mean, it really doesn’t matter whether it was voted Brexit or Remain etc, because we’re all as one anyway...surely no one is failing to see that this jigsaw doesn’t fit and the pieces are being manipulated for personal gain for a ‘chosen few’...‘Britannia’ has had shocking leaders in days gone by...but none more shocking than this man Boris of the Johnsons....

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ehd6hmKWsAA7H6F?format=jpg&name=large

[The Slim Reaper]

Do you believe that, arista?

The legal guy left because the government is trying to break the law. His views on remain/leave are irrelevant at this stage because we've left.

In fact, purging any remainers doesn't make any sense. Brexit has been won, and tories have a massive majority. 5 remainers have no power to do anything. If an African or middle east government were doing this, you'd see how dangerous removing anyone who thinks differently is.

[arista]

Beth Rigby,SkyNewsHD(Owned by left wing NBC/Comcast)
twitted that data.

[The Slim Reaper]

I'm asking what you think, not what eleanor's sister "twitted" out.:laugh:

[arista]

I'm asking what you think, not what eleanor's sister "twitted" out.:laugh:


Yes it's good data
Of course only the Lawyer that just left
matters.

[Liam-]

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I can’t quite put my finger on who wanted it forced through parliament in a couple of days :think:

[arista]

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[Ammi]

...so what’s his next move, then...he’s spent so much time and energy trying to keep favour with the USA...but fair is fair and fair is karma, as they say...he turns his back on NI then America will turn their back on him...there are consequences to being so self serving ...sadly it wouldn’t just be Boris who would face those consequences because he’s well prepared, I’m sure ../...as will be his chosen few...he knows that the country that he serves can never be prepared for what it might face and for what he’s chosen for it to face...

...he’s just the most careless and despicable of people...

[Kizzy]

Is it time to say 'I told you so' yet?

[Ammi]

Is it time to say 'I told you so' yet?

....hmmmm, let me think a while...


....ahhh...

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[Ammi]

...it’s not as if anything was going to stop you, Kizzy...:laugh:..

[The Slim Reaper]

Breaking the law and screwing the GFA will have consequences. Or is this just more project fear?

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[arista]

The EU
await to see what Britain does.


Next week it's to be rushed through Parliament.


Many feel a Deal with finally be reached


Ch4HDnews Live

[The Slim Reaper]

The EU
await to see what Britain does.


Next week it's to be rushed through Parliament.


Many feel a Deal with finally be reached


Ch4HDnews Live

No one feels a deal has any chance of being reached if this passes through parliament. The EU will be taking legal action, not giving us a thing. I can't work out whether you don't understand what is happening, or you're so invested in brexit being good, that you're in complete denial.

[bots]

i still think that a deal is quite probable, and i think that the government are playing funny business with the bill to ramp up the pressure to get the deal done. Why else would they do it specifically now rather than toward the end of the year

[arista]

No one feels a deal has any chance of being reached if this passes through parliament. The EU will be taking legal action, not giving us a thing. I can't work out whether you don't understand what is happening, or you're so invested in Brexit being good, that you're in complete denial.


I just reporting the Facts
there is a War on words, at this time.
What is happening
has not fully unfolded yet.........
EU taking legal action - is to be expected.
They have given Johnson PM 21 days to withdraw his new breach.


Brexit is Forever more

[Ammi]

Brexit: Government refuses to drop plans to override parts of Brexit deal
Brussels threatens legal action and hints at halting trade talks as it calls on the UK government to back down...



https://news.sky.com/story/brexit-eu-demands-uk-scraps-plans-to-override-parts-of-withdrawal-agreement-by-end-of-the-month-12068247

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[arista]

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[Ammi]

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[Niamh.]

I watched a bit of UK news last night where they had Nancy Pelosi and Brendan Boyle from the USA on, it's a sad state of affairs when the Americans seem to know more and care more about Ireland (The republic and the North) than Britain does

[bots]

I watched a bit of UK news last night where they had Nancy Pelosi and Brendan Boyle from the USA on, it's a sad state of affairs when the Americans seem to know more and care more about Ireland (The republic and the North) than Britain does

i haven't been able to get any details on what they actually change. all i've heard is that the agreed protocols will all remain in place, so, what exactly are people complaining about, what rights are being removed etc ... i just don't know

[The Slim Reaper]

The legal profession is warning us what this government is in the process of doing. Not a sandal wearing hippy, but real lawyers.

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[arista]

I watched a bit of UK news last night where they had Nancy Pelosi and Brendan Boyle from the USA on, it's a sad state of affairs when the Americans seem to know more and care more about Ireland (The republic and the North) than Britain does

Of Course so many Irish Americans
out there.



Sod Her.
She will soon be changed.

[Ammi]

I watched a bit of UK news last night where they had Nancy Pelosi and Brendan Boyle from the USA on, it's a sad state of affairs when the Americans seem to know more and care more about Ireland (The republic and the North) than Britain does

...honestly, you know that my dad was from NI and my heart breaks for what’s happened atm....

[arista]

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Keep that mask on.

[The Slim Reaper]

Of Course so many Irish Americans
out there.



Sod Her.
She will soon be changed.

You're so wrong on this issue, The UK should not be intentionally breaking the law to get out of agreements it made and passed through parliament. Where does it end? If they wanted to put people in camps?

[Ammi]

You're so wrong on this issue, The UK should not be intentionally breaking the law to get out of agreements it made and passed through parliament. Where does it end? If they wanted to put people in camps?

...It doesn’t end, once the line is crossed, then the values and integrity have stopped recognising ‘end’ and show there was no respect for it at any point of ‘negotiations’....

[arista]

You're so wrong on this issue, The UK should not be intentionally breaking the law to get out of agreements it made and passed through parliament. Where does it end? If they wanted to put people in camps?


Slim
They Have Not Yet.

[The Slim Reaper]

...It doesn’t end, once the line is crossed, then the values and integrity have stopped recognising ‘end’ and show there was no respect for it at any point of ‘negotiations’....

It really is the behaviour of fascists and autocrats. People keep getting upset when they are told what they are supporting and what their opinions and support for this makes them, but not once do they examine themselves and their ideals. Just more stupid lies they tell themselves as to why it's ok for us to do it.

[The Slim Reaper]

Slim
They Have Not Yet.

But will you argue against it if they do? Or will you say

Sure

it's normal

we are sovereign nation

[arista]

But will you argue against it if they do? Or will you say

Sure

it's normal

we are sovereign nation


Let's see what happens in the end

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Let's see what happens in the end

It's too late at that point, the genie is out of the bottle.

If they do it (they say they are and refuse to amend it, so they definitely are), is that acceptable?

[Ammi]

It really is the behaviour of fascists and autocrats. People keep getting upset when they are told what they are supporting and what their opinions and support for this makes them, but not once do they examine themselves and their ideals. Just more stupid lies they tell themselves as to why it's ok for us to do it.

...I guess that so much has been invested in it being ok..hopes and dreams etc and what was sold on the tin’ of Vote Brexit...?...to ‘examine’ then all ‘Visions’ would have to be shattered, and that’s very difficult for some people as well who may have voted more in ‘good faith’...I’m wondering how many COVID ‘slogans’ we’re all going to get as well to distract...how many u-turns and rearrangements etc ...we have the power of 6 or whatever it is now and this catchy slogan stuff and u-turning stuff has to be given so much attention by us in how confusing it is etc...it’s just the most distracting thing, is it not...strangely, no catchy slogans are coming yet for...you’re just a big old liar with no integrity at all, Boris...

[arista]

It's too late at that point, the genie is out of the bottle.

If they do it (they say they are and refuse to amend it, so they definitely are), is that acceptable?

No

[The Slim Reaper]

No

Fair play.

[The Slim Reaper]

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[arista]

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[joeysteele]

It's always someone else to blame, never him.
Johnson is becoming the threat to real democracy.

I'd shudder to think how he'll go down in political history as to his disastrous time in office.

[arista]

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[arista]

It's always someone else to blame, never him.
Johnson is becoming the threat to real democracy.

I'd shudder to think how he'll go down in political history as to his disastrous time in office.

Yes time will tell.
Cummings needs to speak

[arista]

Gina Miller
had a Bloke set up a go fund page
£10,000 for a Hit man and her death/

She said due to Covid-19
he only had to pay her damages of £200.


She was just live on LBC.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Kizzy]

It's all looking a bit undemocratic isn't it? Tsk tsk.

[bots]

it's hardly undemocratic if it is going before parliament

[joeysteele]

It's all looking a bit undemocratic isn't it? Tsk tsk.

Yes it is.

This PM, his Ministers and cowering MPs terrified to oppose him,as they'd lose by threats likely political careers.

Is of course as far away from true democracy you can get.

We heard nothing of altering this oven ready policy from him in the election.
However this PMs deceit has no boundaries.

To use power in parliament to take the UK to a point where the Nation is seen as not respecting treaties.
Is dangerous and totally undemocratic.

Especially when you're in power with less than 44% of EVEN just the votes cast.
However a crazy, ridiculous, out of date electoral system allowing you to be with an 80 overall majority.

I really now, desperately hope Labour will look at supporting PR in elections.

He has the votes of 44% of those who voted.
I wonder how many of them would really want him to create in any small or larger way,don't and distrust that the UK be seen in the future as a Nation that will break its word and even law.

From abusing electoral power given in parliament.

This is beyond party politics, or should be, as Michael Howard said.
He never thought he'd see the day where a Minister, and certainly never a Con one, would be willing to break a law and international treaty.

This is really undemocratic, it is an abuse of power and near dictatorship.

Really however, this is what we get from this now awful electoral system.
Which really has failed since ,2005 at least.

As much as I ended up detesting the coalition, at least those decisions were taken by 2 parties who commanded way over 50% of the votes cast in 2010 between them.

That is how power should be won.
Not the disproportionate distribution of seats now.

[The Slim Reaper]

it's hardly undemocratic if it is going before parliament

:joker:

[Tom4784]

Boris trying to break a treaty that his government came up with, grim.

[The Slim Reaper]

A tory with honour. Unfortunately this just means a gap for another extremist.

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[Nicky91]

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breaking international laws is just completely wrong

and who even wants to go into a trade deal now with UK, after all this mess, where UK shows their loyalty is with themselves and themselves alone

[arista]

Still time
to achieve a Trade Deal.

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

More purging. This is an authoritarian regime.

[Ammi]

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[Kizzy]

Brexit was designed to break alliances with Europe...This is us breaking those alliances as planned.