Israel declares 'state of war' : Hamas fire '5,000' rockets

[user104658]

Embrace your age Parmnion. Every wrinkle tells a story. Don't try and cancel people if they lose it with you because it looks so overly woke.

All of Parmy's tell the same story because by the time it gets to the next wrinkle's turn, it's already forgotten what the last one said.

[Beso]

Why are you going around looking for posts from days ago to make daft passive-aggressive comments about, like a little piggy snuffling around for truffles? :joker: Take the afternoon off Parmy, no one cares least of all the TiBB staff.You asked me to point out where, I was looking where and found that lovely post.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

[Beso]

I've often wondered who you really are.... Now I know :hehe:

You are obviously a former member allowed to make 2 accounts like that other sad idiot posting in this thread

[user104658]

You asked me to point out where, I was looking where and found that lovely post.

Sent from my SM-G950F using Tapatalk

There was a Hamas news reel about the sad old bastards on TiBB?? I didn't know we'd gained global recognition this is great.

[user104658]

You are obviously a former member allowed to make 2 accounts like that other sad idiot posting in this thread

It's a mystery who it could be, a real head-scratcher. :umm2:

[Beso]

It's a mystery who it could be, a real head-scratcher. :umm2:

Is it sad and old bastardly to know new members former identities on a bb forum.:shrug:

[Beso]

I see all the lefty Pussies are hiring right wing jew hating football thugs to pressurise anyone not lefty into stopping taking videos at their totally pointless, virtual signalling protests.

[user104658]

Is it sad and old bastardly to know new members former identities on a bb forum.:shrug:

It's youthful and lithe - the name hasn't changed, I just have a good memory :hee:.

[Livia]

I've often wondered who you really are.... Now I know :hehe:

I'm someone who's sick of your nonsense.

[DemRed]

You are obviously a former member allowed to make 2 accounts like that other sad idiot posting in this thread

Keep up. I've already made no secret about that!
I could no longer access my account as DemolitionRed, so I started an account called DemRed. I think it's pretty obvious I'm the same person, but just to make sure, I made a statement saying who I was. Should I have messaged every individual?

[DemRed]

I'm someone who's sick of your nonsense.

Carry on insulting me and discover it will get you absolutely nowhere.

[DemRed]

It's a mystery who it could be, a real head-scratcher. :umm2:

Thanks SB!

[Redway]

Carry on insulting me and discover it will get you absolutely nowhere.

I haven't seen any genuine insults yet. Not from her side.

[joeysteele]

Keep up. I've already made no secret about that!
I could no longer access my account as DemolitionRed, so I started an account called DemRed. I think it's pretty obvious I'm the same person, but just to make sure, I made a statement saying who I was. Should I have messaged every individual?

You did Dem Red
You made it clear very quickly.

You never needed to tell anyone you didn't wish to once the owner and mods were satisfied with your return and cleared same.
They're the ones that matter.

[Livia]

Carry on insulting me and discover it will get you absolutely nowhere.

Yeah, whatever.

[Livia]

Thanks SB!

He was referring to himself... Not you.

[bots]

well, all the back and forth is very entertaining to some i'm sure, but i would rather the thread didn't degenerate into antisemitic propaganda, but i guess i'm a minority holding that view

[Beso]

Keep up. I've already made no secret about that!
I could no longer access my account as DemolitionRed, so I started an account called DemRed. I think it's pretty obvious I'm the same person, but just to make sure, I made a statement saying who I was. Should I have messaged every individual?

Well the mods need to find a way that automatically updates you onto the ignore list of the users who had your other account on ignore.

[arista]

Israel has stated that over 40 killed
was a mishap, sadly.

[joeysteele]

Israel has stated that over 40 killed
was a mishap, sadly.

A mishap.

Oh well that's alright then.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Israel makes a fatal mistake in a War and apologises.

Hamas/Palestine rapes, murders and kidnaps and doesn't apologise.

Who are the bad guys ?

clear as day

The very next day after Israel lays down weapons Hamas/Palestine will launch deadly rockets into family areas of Israel

[Liam-]

You don’t accidentally drop 2000lb bombs on a refugee camp, they’re not sorry they continue to slaughter children, they’re sorry that their atrocities are being seen by the world, they want to to kill as many Palestinians as possible without facing repercussions

[Crimson Dynamo]

Many politicians rushed to parrot the misinformation and condemn Israel including
@JustinTrudeau
,
@melaniejoly
and a bunch of
@liberal_party
MPs and the entire
@NDP
caucus (not surprised).

The facts that have come to surface paint a different picture:

✅YES there was an #Israeli airstrike

❌NO it was not in the humanitarian zone

✅YES it was targeting high level targets

❌NO it was not an initial strike to killed the 35 people

✅YES it was the shrapnel from the strike that hit a Hamas weapon storage (most likely unknown to #Israel) that triggered the secondary explosion

❌NO #Israel does NOT target civilians

✅YES innocent civilians needlessly died

✅YES Hamas bears the responsibility for hiding amongst civilians and storing weapons in civilian populations

[DemRed]

Well the mods need to find a way that automatically updates you onto the ignore list of the users who had your other account on ignore.

I agree, that would work for me

[DemRed]

Absolutely nobody is being antisemitic here, unless people believe that wanting to stop the attack on Gaza is antisemitism? Rather than have a reasonable debate, some people are looking to be offended before throwing around accusations that are an attempt to shut down a poster.

The amount of Islamophobia I see on here is beyond the pale but that apparently is applauded on this website because, thanks to western propaganda, all Islamists are potential rapists and terrorists.

Left wing Right wing insults . People whose opinions differ to their own should be, all about debate... even heated debate, but instead one liner slurs are thrown around like confetti.

At best, we have seven or eight regular posters in this group. It's the smallest forum group I use and yet the most derisive. I guess that's why its always remained so small.

[Liam-]

Wanting Netenyahu and his army of thugs to stop murdering innocent civilians, including mass amounts of children, is antisemitism didn’t you know?

[DemRed]

Many politicians rushed to parrot the misinformation and condemn Israel including
@JustinTrudeau
,
@melaniejoly
and a bunch of
@liberal_party
MPs and the entire
@NDP
caucus (not surprised).

The facts that have come to surface paint a different picture:

✅YES there was an #Israeli airstrike

❌NO it was not in the humanitarian zone

✅YES it was targeting high level targets

❌NO it was not an initial strike to killed the 35 people

✅YES it was the shrapnel from the strike that hit a Hamas weapon storage (most likely unknown to #Israel) that triggered the secondary explosion

❌NO #Israel does NOT target civilians

✅YES innocent civilians needlessly died

✅YES Hamas bears the responsibility for hiding amongst civilians and storing weapons in civilian populations

Where have they come to the surface? Not from The Times of Israel

[arista]

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[DemRed]

Arista. The Israeli government and the US are behaving like the mafia.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Israel did not cross Biden’s red line with Rafah strikes, White House says

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/SEI_206535916-491f.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=540%2C360

In total, 40 people were arrested during tonight’s operation for offences

including breaching Public Order Act conditions, obstructing the highway and

assaulting emergency workers.3 Police injured one seriously after being
hit by a bottle in the face



https://x.com/MPSWestminster/status/1795619933578998056
https://metro.co.uk/2024/05/29/palestine-march-london-sees-40-arrested-police-officers-hurt-20928565/

[DemRed]

USQeyrfXBew


More and more of Europe are turning against Israel. For the sake of the Israeli people, Netanyahu needs to be overthrown. I understand that's a plan in the Israeli government presently, but it needs to speed things up.

[Livia]

For someone with "every source of news at your fingertips'", here's another Youtube clip with some purple prose attached.

[Crimson Dynamo]

For someone with "every source of news at your fingertips'", here's another Youtube clip with some purple prose attached.

Its a bog standard pro Hamas/ "Palestine" youtube propaganda channel

[DemRed]

I make a point of reading the Israel Haaretz to see what news is coming out in Israel. Gideon Levy often writes a good column, but here he speaks his mind in an interview.
I think this is a message for all those who are for this war and believe anyone who protests or speaks out, is antisemitic or a Hamas supporter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPwc9mC-rqc&t=16s

[DemRed]

Its a bog standard pro Hamas/ "Palestine" youtube propaganda channel

Funny that because the interview I've just seen with Gideon Levy talks about both Israeli and Western propaganda to bring about words like yours.

[DemRed]

Israel did not cross Biden’s red line with Rafah strikes, White House says

Yes they did. Try watching a few earlier interviews about Biden's red line. He just conveniently moved it.

[Livia]

I make a point of reading the Israel Haaretz to see what news is coming out in Israel. Gideon Levy often writes a good column, but here he speaks his mind in an interview.
I think this is a message for all those who are for this war and believe anyone who protests or speaks out, is antisemitic or a Hamas supporter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPwc9mC-rqc&t=16s

That's not true. I believe people who say anti-Semitic things are anti-Semites. People who say anti-Semitic things while denying and/or justifying events in 7th October.

[DemRed]

0juLRi90kRg

This is very humbling.

[bots]

I'm surprised that no-one mentioned Nicky Haley was in Israel yesterday, signing bombs with the phrase "Finish Them" .... She has just endorsed Trump

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm surprised that no-one mentioned Nicky Haley was in Israel yesterday, signing bombs with the phrase "Finish Them" .... She has just endorsed Trump

I think every rational human wants to see every Hamas terrorist dead asap?

[DemRed]

I think every rational human wants to see every Hamas terrorist dead asap?

And some people want to see all the men, women, children and animals too.

[Beso]

I'm surprised that no-one mentioned Nicky Haley was in Israel yesterday, signing bombs with the phrase "Finish Them" .... She has just endorsed Trump

Very ghoulish.

[Crimson Dynamo]

And some people want to see all the men, women, children and animals too.

sorry what?

[user104658]

sorry what?

Some. People. Clearly. Want. To. See. Non. Hamas. Civilians. In. Palestine. Dead. Too.

There's all sorts of implants and whazzumacallits for the hard of hearing these days, feller :hee:.

[DemRed]

I'm surprised that no-one mentioned Nicky Haley was in Israel yesterday, signing bombs with the phrase "Finish Them" .... She has just endorsed Trump

Its understandable. Her daughter Tali, was at the Nova Music Festival on the 7th Oct

[Crimson Dynamo]

Some. People. Clearly. Want. To. See. Non. Hamas. Civilians. In. Palestine. Dead. Too.

There's all sorts of implants and whazzumacallits for the hard of hearing these days, feller :hee:.

then stop hiding with civilians hoping to play the corpses as pawns

why do I have to explain this in 2024?

oh wait, its da culture war

:facepalm:

[user104658]

then stop hiding with civilians hoping to play the corpses as pawns

why do I have to explain this in 2024?

oh wait, its da culture war

:facepalm:

The question isn't why it happens or whether or not it's justified in this case - even if one argues that it is an inevitable reality of this sort of war.

The question is

1) Do [certain people] care/think it's tragic that these civilians are being killed (even if it's unavoidable)

2) Do [certain people] actively feel some ... positive / celebratory ... feelings when they see dead non-Hamas Palestinians, either feeling that it's a justifiable eye-for-an-eye vengeance ("That'll show 'em") or perhaps that all Palestinians are Hamas-by-proxy and in some way responsible for Oct 7th... and thus actively want to see Palestinian civilians killed / enjoy the high numbers.

#1 is a bit of a "meh" people have different empathy levels. If you don't care you don't care.

Sadly though I suspect #2 is the quiet unspoken reality and

*ahem*

Some people want to see [note: not "accept", but "want"] all the non-Hamas Palestinian men, women, children and animals dead too.


Though probably not the animals - people ain't arf sentimental about their doggies. If someone said the IDF was bombing puppies the world would erupt.

[Beso]

Why is TS suddenly typing like windsor Davies talks.?

[user104658]

Why is TS suddenly typing like windsor Davies talks.?

LeathEarTrumpet is having some hearing difficulties, don't draw attention to it he's already feeling self-conscious.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Why is TS suddenly typing like windsor Davies talks.?
When I read what TS/SB types i do so in the voice of Charles Hawtrey

always have

https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w600_and_h900_bestv2/eLW6uIXCYqg642SKcomq6YEkfkG.jpg

[The Slim Reaper]

The tibb hierarchy of trolling.

[Crimson Dynamo]

CNN Defense Analysts have now determined that the Israeli Airstrike on May
26th against a Hamas Compound in Western Rafah, which was believed to
have possibly caused an Explosion and Fire which resulted in the Death of
between 35-45 Palestinian Refugees, could not have been “Completely
Caused” by the Israeli Airstrike due to the Size of the Explosion.

Shrapnel and Parts which were Discovered in the Rubble of the Hamas Compound, which
was roughly 200 Meters from the UNRWA Refugee Camp, suggest that the
Strike was carried out using 2 GBU-39 Small Diameter Bomb with 250lb
Warheads; these Bombs would have not been nearly Powerful enough to
have caused the Explosion at the Camp nor would the have been Large
enough to cause any kind of “Splash Damage” to the Camp, which again was
over a Kilometer from the Strike Location. This Analysis suggests that what
Israeli Defense Officials have so far suggested is likely True, which is that
Hamas Munitions which were Hidden roughly Half-Way between the
Compound and Camp were Detonated by Shrapnel from the Airstrike, causing
the Explosion of multiple Fuel Tanks at the Refugee Camp and the eventual
Fire.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOzCHe-WEAAH7Hd?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOzCHe9W8AAJdVN?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOzCHe-X0AEyXRB?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GOzCHe9WAAAhNWM?format=jpg&name=small

https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1796023788552778155

[DemRed]

It's a bit naughty to claim CNN have now determined what caused the fire in the Israeli Airstrike. As no foreign journalists are allowed into Gaza, it had to be the Israel Defense Forces that did the investigating and then told the senior Washington Correspondent of CNN.

I think it's highly likely that there were explosives in that building, but because Israel has lied again and again and not allowed any foreign investigators on site, one has to question their honesty.

B23hnCTfPPk

[Livia]

Whereas Hamas would never lie to us or people wouldn't be so willing to quote their press releases.

Usually the same people who try to diminish what happened on 7th October.

[arista]

Whereas Hamas would never lie to us or people wouldn't be so willing to quote their press releases.

Usually the same people who try to diminish what happened on 7th October.

Sadly True

[DemRed]

Whereas Hamas would never lie to us or people wouldn't be so willing to quote their press releases.

Usually the same people who try to diminish what happened on 7th October.

We all cried on the 7th Oct but this has gone way beyond the 7th Oct now and so people trying to shut others down with repeated accusations, especially accusations of antisemitism, and not caring about those killed on Oct 7th are starting to sound like an echo chamber.

[Livia]

Echo chamber. Hackneyed term of the day.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Echo chamber. Hackneyed term of the day.

Its dem, TS and Glens way of having a pop at the forum because their worldviews are in the minority

They have all said it today

the irony is hysterical :laugh:

[The Slim Reaper]

Who is dem?

[The Slim Reaper]

6:03 - Echo chamber is hackneyed term of the day
6:05 You're absolutely right. These people that disagree with us (who all have very different world views from each other) are not part of the echo.

You're just proving the point, my dears.

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[Crimson Dynamo]

6:03 - Echo chamber is hackneyed term of the day
6:05 You're absolutely right. These people that disagree with us (who all have very different world views from each other) are not part of the echo.

You're just proving the point, my dears.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/KYIFQIusoEbaE/200w.gif?cid=6c09b952crssgxx4gm3gomy914tdxmz80pptg kzgixwes14z&ep=v1_gifs_search&rid=200w.gif&ct=g

waits for slim and the 4 horsemen of the communist party to now all start saying "my dears"

:joker:

[The Slim Reaper]

waits for slim and the 4 horsemen of the communist party to now all start saying "my dears"

:joker:

Chat and Games.

[user104658]

When I read what TS/SB types i do so in the voice of Charles Hawtrey

always have

https://image.tmdb.org/t/p/w600_and_h900_bestv2/eLW6uIXCYqg642SKcomq6YEkfkG.jpg

It's nice that you have a voice for me :hee: I read yours in the voice of a slightly drunk lonely divorcee who thinks he's a bit of a Billy big bollocks because he has 7 or 8 like-minded people fawning over him on a defunct reality telly forum. Funny that we all have these little voices in mind for each other!

[The Slim Reaper]

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[DemRed]

Its dem, TS and Glens way of having a pop at the forum because their worldviews are in the minority

They have all said it today

the irony is hysterical :laugh:

In the minority on here perhaps, but certainly not in the world minority.
Unlike others on here who have some sort of sick hate for anything Muslim and care not about the tens of thousands being killed in Gaza, the majority of us out there in the bigger space, care about both the Israelis who were killed or maimed and the Palestinians who are being killed and maimed.


I'm glad I have empathy for all these people and believe those that don't have a very unattractive dark side. As for you LT, I believe you live a very sheltered existence. :pat:

[DemRed]

Who is dem?

He deliberately avoids caps to my name. Small man syndrome perhaps!

[The Slim Reaper]

He deliberately avoids caps to my name. Small man syndrome perhaps!

Yeah, sorry dude. I realised afterwards who he was talking about.

[user104658]

In the minority on here perhaps, but certainly not in the world minority.

Why do you think he's here, and why do you think he was so excited that most people who disagreed with him ended up leaving. We all need a safe space sometimes I suppose.

[Livia]

It's nice that you have a voice for me :hee: I read yours in the voice of a slightly drunk lonely divorcee who thinks he's a bit of a Billy big bollocks because he has 7 or 8 like-minded people fawning over him on a defunct reality telly forum. Funny that we all have these little voices in mind for each other!

Seems you hit a nerve LT.

[user104658]

Seems you hit a nerve LT.

That's one so far already LT, the avengers are assembling :joker:.

[Livia]

That's one so far already LT, the avengers are assembling :joker:.

Says the man in here with slim and dem agreeing "my thoughts exactly, how true".

[user104658]

Says the man in here with slim and dem agreeing "my thoughts exactly, how true".

You're late to the party Livia, the irony is wonderful. I reckon LT just logged off and put on a wig :joker:

[Livia]

You're late to the party Livia, the irony is wonderful. I reckon LT just logged off and put on a wig :joker:

You're not nearly as funny as you think you are.

[user104658]

You're not nearly as funny as you think you are.

You're not supposed to find it funny. What possible delusion could you be living, to think that I say things with the intent of you finding them funny.

[DemRed]

You're late to the party Livia, the irony is wonderful. I reckon LT just logged off and put on a wig :joker:

:joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Livia]

You know this is serious debates, right?

[user104658]

You know this is serious debates, right?

That subforum doesn't exist, not enough members want it and Tibb isn't interested in it, that was made clear. I believe your friend LT was especially clear about not wanting that sort of SD forum :shrug:. Weirdly doesn't seem too fond of the alternative either...?

[Livia]

Serious debates and news. Says so right there on the tin.

You say "your friend LT" like an insult. It is not.

[Crimson Dynamo]

That subforum doesn't exist, not enough members want it and Tibb isn't interested in it, that was made clear. I believe your friend LT was especially clear about not wanting that sort of SD forum :shrug:. Weirdly doesn't seem too fond of the alternative either...?

no one wanted your vanity project and 3 weeks on you still have not got over it with day after day of personal comments and snide remarks

have a word with yourself

its embarrassing

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just how deluded the far left kids are

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GO2j58yWEAAn0Gq?format=jpg&name=360x360

[user104658]

no one wanted your vanity project and 3 weeks on you still have not got over it with day after day of personal comments and snide remarks

have a word with yourself

its embarrassing

I said maybe we could have a better quality debates forum.

The response was "LOL no"

And now you seem surprised and upset that other people are not engaging in good quality good faith debate :think:.

So it seems what you want, is to be able to mock/jeer/engage with the forum however you please, whilst keeping everyone else cobbled by some sort of etiquette. And so bloody whiney about it. At least you've got your corner set up over there for emotional support.

[DemRed]

You know this is serious debates, right?

Yep, but then I just can't take you seriously!

[Livia]

Yep, but then I just can't take you seriously!

Right back at ya, and I never have been able to. And I don't have to use a row of emojis to say it.

[MTVN]

Biden's plan to end the war seems pretty good

[Livia]

There's so much hate and resentment I can hardly see either side giving the other an inch, sadly. It sounds good in theory, though.

[Liam-]

It’s pretty much the exact same deal that Israel turned down months ago so they could keep killing children, it’s not going to go anywhere now

[MTVN]

It’s pretty much the exact same deal that Israel turned down months ago so they could keep killing children, it’s not going to go anywhere now

Israel is proposing it this time

[arista]

Sad News
SkyNewsHD


IDF confirmed the dead body of a British-Israeli man
has been found.

[DemRed]

Sad News
SkyNewsHD


IDF confirmed the dead body of a British-Israeli man
has been found.

The claim is, Nadav Popplewell was killed by an Israeli missile.

May his soul rest in peace

[arista]

The claim is, Nadav Popplewell was killed by an Israeli missile.

May his soul rest in peace



https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgrrng3l6jro


[Israel's military says it has established the
deaths of four more people abducted by
Hamas on 7 October.

It says the four were killed while together
during an Israeli operation in Khan Younis
in southern Gaza, adding that their bodies
were still being held by the militants.

The men were named as
British-Israeli Nadav Popplewell, 51,
Chaim Peri, 79,
Yoram Metzger, 80, and
Amiram Cooper, 85.

IDF spokesman Rear Adm Daniel Hagari
said intelligence gathered in recent
weeks had led to the assessment.

"We assess that the four of them were
killed while together in the area of
Khan Younis during our operation there
against Hamas," he said, without giving
further details.

Last month, Hamas claimed that
Nadav Popplewell had died in an
Israeli strike in April.
The UK Foreign Office said it was
investigating, but there was no
confirmation of his death until now.]

[DemRed]

J1GJppllbS0

[user104658]

"We assess that the four of them were killed while together in the area of Khan Younis during our operation there against Hamas."

Well there's some political-speak if ever there was any.

[DemRed]

Yesterday they bombed another school where people were sheltering. Another 40 dead including children and a woman who was in the middle of giving birth.

Meanwhile, hundreds of far Right Israeli settlers gather at Bab al Amad Plaza in occupied Jerusalem and prepare to break into the Muslim quarters of the Old City.

Far Right Itamar Ben-Gvir, Minister of National Security in Israel, explicitly announces the Israel occupation's intention to fully occupy Gaza and displace Palestinians over the borders.

Israeli media report that Israel's Ambassador of the UN Gilad Erdan has informed his US counterparts that the occupation state opposes the Security Council Resolution.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-0336f390-9015-4c2e-8228-3a3cebe0ce21.jpeg

[user104658]

Certain members have gone awfully quiet on this thread recently. Which is not a criticism, by the way - hopefully, people are actually starting to develop a more balanced understanding of what we're actually looking at here.

[user104658]

F sake TS as culture ware point scoring BS goes that is actually pathetic

get a grip you are off the scale right now

:skull:

The world (both population and political) is starting to recognise that we're looking at a genocide right under our noses. I wouldn't call that "culture war point scoring BS" it's genuinely a good thing.

[Liam-]

Did anyone see that Zionist march where they were chanting about wanting to see the villages burn and other grotesque, genocidal stuff? People have spent so long claiming these people are the good guys and don’t want to hurt anyone and then every chance they get they film themselves being monsters and the cycle continues its equally fascinating and distressing, you really do get a real time look at how dictators and genocidal leaders are able to prosper and grip power to do whatever they want and still have people defend the indefensible

[DemRed]

Did anyone see that Zionist march where they were chanting about wanting to see the villages burn and other grotesque, genocidal stuff? People have spent so long claiming these people are the good guys and donÂ’t want to hurt anyone and then every chance they get they film themselves being monsters and the cycle continues its equally fascinating and distressing, you really do get a real time look at how dictators and genocidal leaders are able to prosper and grip power to do whatever they want and still have people defend the indefensible

I saw a video yesterday where a gang of settlers marched through the Old City of Jerusalem, spitting, cursing and chanting genocidal slogans. They were picking up things from an elderly mans shop and smashing them on the ground. When he stepped in to try and stop them, the police arrested the shop keeper. Far Right settlers are under the protection of the occupation.

[DemRed]

The world (both population and political) is starting to recognise that we're looking at a genocide right under our noses. I wouldn't call that "culture war point scoring BS" it's genuinely a good thing.

Certain replies are deliberately provocative.
Your heart is in the right place SB. Stand tall with your compassion.

[user104658]

Did anyone see that Zionist march where they were chanting about wanting to see the villages burn and other grotesque, genocidal stuff? People have spent so long claiming these people are the good guys and don’t want to hurt anyone and then every chance they get they film themselves being monsters and the cycle continues its equally fascinating and distressing, you really do get a real time look at how dictators and genocidal leaders are able to prosper and grip power to do whatever they want and still have people defend the indefensible

On the flip side though for the bit in bold, as I also find that rhetoric quite dangerous and likely to lead to further escalation, just as it's important to remember that Palestine is not Hamas, it's also important to remember that Jewish people =/= Israelis, and in turn, all Israelis =/= Zionists. Further there will be those who conceptually agree with Zionism but wouldn't condone violence or force. As always, the extreme action comes from a small proportion of a small proportion of a greater whole.

And it's everyone else who pays the price.

[Livia]

Certain members have gone awfully quiet on this thread recently. Which is not a criticism, by the way - hopefully, people are actually starting to develop a more balanced understanding of what we're actually looking at here.

If you're referring to me I can assure you I drop in here every time I visit to watch the Hamas cheerleaders wringing their hands. And I'm never disappointed.

You yourself are not awfully quiet on any thread. I certainly wouldn't try to provoke you into posting if you were.

[user104658]

You yourself are not awfully quiet on any thread. I certainly wouldn't try to provoke you into posting if you were.

:joker: touché on that one

[Beso]

I saw a video yesterday where a gang of settlers marched through the Old City of Jerusalem, spitting, cursing and chanting genocidal slogans. They were picking up things from an elderly mans shop and smashing them on the ground. When he stepped in to try and stop them, the police arrested the shop keeper. Far Right settlers are under the protection of the occupation.

If the settlers are far right, what does that make Hamas?

[user104658]

If the settlers are far right, what does that make Hamas?

I don't know what you expect as an answer there, but it's generally accepted that most if not all terrorist-political organisations are far right, including Hamas.

They get a lot of post-modernist modern-western-leftist support (population, there are no leftist govts in the west) but Hamas themselves can't possibly be described as in any way "left"... They're righties.

Of course the political meaning of "left and right" has become completely twisted in general discourse these days. LGBTQ rights are supposedly "left", anti-abortion stances are supposedly "right" etc when in reality none of these issues have anything at all to do with right or left.

[DemRed]

If the settlers are far right, what does that make Hamas?

When I say settlers, I mean those who have moved onto Palestinian territory in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem.

Both support extremist elements. That said, most Jews in Israel don't support these illegal settlements and see these settlers as extremists.

[Beso]

When I say settlers, I mean those who have moved onto Palestinian territory in the occupied West Bank and East Jerusalem.

Both support extremist elements. That said, most Jews in Israel don't support these illegal settlements and see these settlers as extremists.

You mean onto the land the palestinian farmers have sold them?

[bots]

I don't know what you expect as an answer there, but it's generally accepted that most if not all terrorist-political organisations are far right, including Hamas.

They get a lot of post-modernist modern-western-leftist support (population, there are no leftist govts in the west) but Hamas themselves can't possibly be described as in any way "left"... They're righties.

Of course the political meaning of "left and right" has become completely twisted in general discourse these days. LGBTQ rights are supposedly "left", anti-abortion stances are supposedly "right" etc when in reality none of these issues have anything at all to do with right or left.

most of the terrorist supporters in western countries are from the left wing. Thats not doubtful in any way

[user104658]

most of the terrorist supporters in western countries are from the left wing. Thats not doubtful in any way

Only by the extremely dumbed-down modern political idea of what the left and right is. What you surely mean is that they're progressives rather than conservatives, which is entirely different.

However there's also no denying that a organisation like Hamas itself is not only right wing, but also socially conservative.

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't know what you expect as an answer there, but it's generally accepted that most if not all terrorist-political organisations are far right, including Hamas.

They get a lot of post-modernist modern-western-leftist support (population, there are no leftist govts in the west) but Hamas themselves can't possibly be described as in any way "left"... They're righties.

Of course the political meaning of "left and right" has become completely twisted in general discourse these days. LGBTQ rights are supposedly "left", anti-abortion stances are supposedly "right" etc when in reality none of these issues have anything at all to do with right or left.

which makes all the support of Hamas from the woke mind virus marxist kids even more bonkers and laughable

[The Slim Reaper]

most of the terrorist supporters in western countries are from the left wing. Thats not doubtful in any way

Who supports terrorism on the left? What does terrorist supporter actually mean?

[Beso]

which makes all the support of Hamas from the woke mind virus marxist kids even more bonkers and laughable

They are good at it though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Who supports terrorism on the left? What does terrorist supporter actually mean?

what does "the left" mean?

[Beso]

what does "the left" mean?

Go against anything a ruddery faced old man might say. Apart from kiers.

[The Slim Reaper]

what does "the left" mean?

Consider you use "the loony left/communists/marxists" as one of your only 5 (max) post templates, I was hoping you could tell me. :blush:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Israeli Merkava Mark lV Main Battle Tanks with the 162nd “Ha-Plada” Division arrived on
the Southern Coast of the Gaza Strip today, with the Israel Defense Force now having
Total Physical Control of the “Philadelphi Corridor” between the Border of Egypt and the
Gaza Strip.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPfUI7CXcAAgulv?format=jpg&name=small

[DemRed]

You mean onto the land the palestinian farmers have sold them?

Yes, some do sell their homes.
There are also Israeli organisations that work to evict Palestinians from their land using loopholes in the land laws.

Israeli authorities also regularly seize and demolish Palestinian properties citing the lack of Israeli-issued building permits and land documents.

But international rights groups say acquiring an Israeli building permit is nearly impossible.

All settlements and outposts are considered illegal under international laws as they violate the Fourth Geneva Convention, which bans an occupying power from transferring its population to the area it occupies.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/6/who-are-israeli-settlers-and-why-do-they-live-on-palestinian-lands#:~:text=Several%20Israeli%20laws%20enable%20 settlers,as%20roads%2C%20settlements%20and%20parks .

[DemRed]

which makes all the support of Hamas from the woke mind virus marxist kids even more bonkers and laughable

You clearly think that anyone who objects to what is happening to the Palestinians is in some way supporting Hamas.... Why?

I'm sure you're not so ill informed that you just go along with your mates for the hell of it, so seriously, why do you believe this?

[Crimson Dynamo]

You clearly think that anyone who objects to what is happening to the Palestinians is in some way supporting Hamas.... Why?

I'm sure you're not so ill informed that you just go along with your mates for the hell of it, so seriously, why do you believe this?

what mates?

have you posted you want Hamas to release all hostages alive in this thread?

[DemRed]

what mates?

have you posted you want Hamas to release all hostages alive in this thread?

Have you?

I've said that I don't think many will be alive because Israel has dropped over 70,000 tons of bombs on an area quarter the size of London.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure that you couldn't give a siht about the atrocities going on in Gaza. In your warped mind, you likely think they are all Hamas.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Have you?

I've said that I don't think many will be alive because Israel has dropped over 70,000 tons of bombs on an area quarter the size of London.
Anyway, I'm pretty sure that you couldn't give a siht about the atrocities going on in Gaza. In your warped mind, you likely think they are all Hamas.

"In your warped mind"


excuse me

:umm2:

[Beso]

All settlements and outposts are considered illegal under international laws as they violate the Fourth Geneva Convention, which bans an occupying power from transferring its population to the area it occupies


They sold their land to the settlers long before the 4th Geneva convention.

[user104658]

which makes all the support of Hamas from the woke mind virus marxist kids even more bonkers and laughable

If we're being boring and realistic - only a small percentage of the people who are against the bombing campaigns in Palestine will be genuinely "Hamas supporting". Some of them I'm sure do, or at least will say they do, for tribalistic reasons but it'll mostly because they don't actually understand the nuances of the situation. And for the most part they are, indeed, just kids... Which is why I judge their ignorance far less harshly than the comparable ignorance of full-blown adults.

Any vaguely reasonable person with their sensible hat on recognises that the whole situation is a humanitarian catastrophe, and can admit that Israel's tactics have been cavalier when it comes to collateral casualties.

[DemRed]

All settlements and outposts are considered illegal under international laws as they violate the Fourth Geneva Convention, which bans an occupying power from transferring its population to the area it occupies


They sold their land to the settlers long before the 4th Geneva convention.

All of them?!


You carry on with that belief parmion. You can either choose to educate yourself on this matter or you can choose to stick with what you think you know.

[Beso]

All of them?!


You carry on with that belief parmion. You can either choose to educate yourself on this matter or you can choose to stick with what you think you know.

Oh I know what I know, I've read online and read books about it, just like yourself. Your problem is you think what you have read is true, and everyone elses side of things is wrong. Therefore you just try and shut down amy differing opinions based on study to your own. You will see I've never done that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPi5wTGWwAAFrCX?format=jpg&name=small

Those rescued are Noa Argamani, 25, Almog Meir Jan, 21, Andri Kozlov, 27, and
Shlomi Ziv, 40, the Israel Defense Forces said.

They were rescued in a joint “complex” daytime operation, conducted with
Israel Securities Authority and Israel Police, from two separate locations in
Nuseirat, central Gaza, the IDF said.

They are in good medical condition and have been transferred to the 'Sheba'
Tel-HaShomer Medical Center for further medical examinations, the IDF said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cd11z2j34k4o

[arista]

Yes some good news

[Livia]

Good news at last.

[Liam-]

Israel bombed yet another refugee camp killing roughly 150 women and children, is it enough yet or do zionists want even more dead children?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Israel bombed yet another refugee camp killing roughly 150 women and children, is it enough yet or do zionists want even more dead children?

Can you provide a reliable source as otherwise its just more Hamas propaganda.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Noa Argamani (25), Almog Meir Jan (21), Andrey Kozlov (27), and Shlomi Ziv
(40) were rescued in a special operation by the IDF, ISA and Israel Police from
2 separate locations in the heart of Nuseirat after being kidnapped by Hamas
from the Nova music festival.

They are in good medical condition and have been transferred to the 'Sheba'
Tel-HaShomer Medical Center for further medical examinations.

We will continue to make every effort to bring the hostages home say the IDF

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPi58PiWYAAv9xm?format=jpg&name=small

[user104658]

Who would have thought that a complex, intelligence-based operation would be more likely to successfully rescue hostages than carpet bombing the whole area? A true miracle.

[Livia]

If only they had military strategist Toy Soldier/Soldier Boy* leading them....

*No connection to the actual military.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Israeli Police inspector who took part in this mornings special operation to rescue 4 Israeli
hostages in Gaza, has died during the rescue mission.

Chief Inspector Arnon Zamora, a commander and tactical operator was critically wounded
and has succumbed to his wounds.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPjzU8AXEAAUV6V?format=jpg&name=small

[DemRed]

I've just watched the hostage release live and I'm very happy for the families and the hostages.

I'm also really sad, that a child of 8 and her brother of 13 was killed in the crossfire.

[DemRed]

Oh I know what I know, I've read online and read books about it, just like yourself. Your problem is you think what you have read is true, and everyone elses side of things is wrong. Therefore you just try and shut down amy differing opinions based on study to your own. You will see I've never done that.


So you believe that all the Palestinians were paid for their land?

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[DemRed]

The war and the persecution of Palestinians is sickening. For years I have purchased my olive oil from the West Bank but most of the olive groves have now been destroyed.

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[Crimson Dynamo]

I've just watched the hostage release live and I'm very happy for the families and the hostages.

I'm also really sad, that a child of 8 and her brother of 13 was killed in the crossfire.

Hamas do love to use children/schools etc as pawns and shields sadly

Where did you learn of this - from a trusted news source or some Hamas propaganda channel?

[Beso]

If only they had military strategist Toy Soldier/Soldier Boy* leading them....

*No connection to the actual military.

He once thought he was the milky bar kid

[Beso]

The war and the persecution of Palestinians is sickening. For years I have purchased my olive oil from the West Bank but most of the olive groves have now been destroyed.

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In your previous video the woman casually says they ran down to the olive trees.

[DemRed]

Hamas do love to use children/schools etc as pawns and shields sadly

Where did you learn of this - from a trusted news source or some Hamas propaganda channel?

There are plenty of British and UN doctors working in Gaza and they regularly report back on atrocities that they have to deal with.

As for your first comment. Israel always tell us that Hamas use children/people as shields and you believe this propaganda.
The ICC have seen footage of Israeli soldiers using children as human shields when they raid houses and yet they constantly put out that its Hamas that do this, but where is the footage? All you have is the word of far Right nationalists. Nationalists that with the help of the notorious Shin Bet, have lied about events over and over?

[DemRed]

In your previous video the woman casually says they ran down to the olive trees.

FFS are you being deliberately pedantic?.
Those olive farms are where these farmers make their income, but most of the olive farms have been burnt down by the settlers.

[Beso]

FFS are you being deliberately pedantic?.
Those olive farms are where these farmers make their income, but most of the olive farms have been burnt down by the settlers.

Says who? You!

Or the al Jazeera links you keep posting as though its the gospel truth.

Cant be arsed anymore btw..so I wouldnt bother if I were you.

[Crimson Dynamo]

There are plenty of British and UN doctors working in Gaza and they regularly report back on atrocities that they have to deal with.



yet you cant link to any?

[Crimson Dynamo]

"Senior U.S. Officials have revealed that the United States provided Support,
which Primarily involved Intelligence, to the Successful Israeli Operation earlier
today within the Nuseirat Refugee Camp in the Central Gaza Strip, which
resulted in the Rescue of 4 Hostages that had been held by Hamas in the Gaza
Strip for over 8 Months."

Well done Biden

[joeysteele]

It's a relief to hear of some hostages free again.

The relief for their families must be immeasurable.

It's desperately sad the conflict in the area but to think of the relief for those freed hostages and their families, that's one bright hope.

[bots]

well, hamas have had months and months to free hostages, if they wanted to minimise loss of life in the recovery of those hostages, they could have released them. You really cant blame israel for any accidental casualties in their hostage recovery operation at this point

[UserSince2005]

Wow Noa was freed! Amazing news. Any word on her hottie bf?

[Liam-]

Israel have rejected opportunity after opportunity for hostage releases, it’s a little naive to place the blame of lost of innocent life when Israel have been dropping bombs indiscriminately for months and killing anyone and anything in sight, including hostages they were ‘trying to save’

[UserSince2005]

Israel have rejected opportunity after opportunity for hostage releases, it’s a little naive to place the blame of lost of innocent life when Israel have been dropping bombs indiscriminately for months and killing anyone and anything in sight, including hostages they were ‘trying to save’

Shut it. Today is about the amazing savour of 4 survivors who have been through absolute hell. Nothing else.

[Crimson Dynamo]

White House: A man wears a Hamas headband while another protester holds a
“Fags 4 Hamas” sign.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPkxrkbWIAA2cZk?format=jpg&name=small

[bots]

there was a guy wearing a gays for trump tee shirt at the court last week and he was calling a guy an fing f-----t that he disagreed with. It seems to be quite a common thing

[Beso]

White House: A man wears a Hamas headband while another protester holds a
“Fags 4 Hamas” sign.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPkxrkbWIAA2cZk?format=jpg&name=small

Thats rather heartless. You would have thought they'd had enough of smoke by now

[Crimson Dynamo]

there was a guy wearing a gays for trump tee shirt at the court last week and he was calling a guy an fing f-----t that he disagreed with. It seems to be quite a common thing

they all belong to a subset of the far left

look here is a prime example: https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1799547942304383475

:umm2:

[DemRed]

Israel bombed yet another refugee camp killing roughly 150 women and children, is it enough yet or do zionists want even more dead children?

The body count is now 274 killed, 67 of them children.
The United Nations is adding Israel to its so-called “blacklist” of countries that have committed abuses against children in armed conflict.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Former hostage Noa Argamani was held hostage for 8 months in home of AL
JAZEERA JOURNALIST. (Dem often uses Al Jazeera links)

The 26 year old was held in the home of Abdallah Aljamal, a Gaza based
reporter and photojournalist for the Qatar owned network- according to Israeli
newspaper Israel Hayom.

As Israeli special forces raided the home the Al Jazeera journalist and several
members of his family attempted to prevent the Israeli woman’s rescue and
were reportedly killed.

Source: Israel Hayom

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPn2_wDXAAASEZW?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPn2_v0XMAA3JeW?format=jpg&name=360x360

https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1799741108659843074

[arista]

Benny Gantz has now resigned
from the War cabinet.

[DemRed]

Former hostage Noa Argamani was held hostage for 8 months in home of AL
JAZEERA JOURNALIST. (Dem often uses Al Jazeera links)

The 26 year old was held in the home of Abdallah Aljamal, a Gaza based
reporter and photojournalist for the Qatar owned network- according to Israeli
newspaper Israel Hayom.

As Israeli special forces raided the home the Al Jazeera journalist and several
members of his family attempted to prevent the Israeli woman’s rescue and
were reportedly killed.

Source: Israel Hayom

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPn2_wDXAAASEZW?format=jpg&name=smallhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/GPn2_v0XMAA3JeW?format=jpg&name=360x360

https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1799741108659843074

According to the Times of Israel:
“This man is not from Al-Jazeera, and he did not work for Al-Jazeera at all, and he is not listed as working for Al-Jazeera neither now nor in the past,” al-Jazeera Jerusalem bureau chief Omar al-Walid says. “We do not know him, and all the rumors that have been spread are empty of content and not true at all.”

He adds that the network plans to sue anyone spreading rumors claiming a link to Abdallah Aljamal.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/al-jazeera-denies-rumor-that-hostage-was-held-at-employees-home/#:~:text=Qatari%20news%20network%20Al%20Jazeera,ho me%20in%20central%20Gaza's%20Nuseirat.

[Crimson Dynamo]

According to the Times of Israel:
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er no
its according to the vile Qatari news network Al Jazeera is stridently denying any link to Gaza-based journalist Abdallah Aljamal, amid unverified rumors that hostage Noa Argamani had been held at his home in central Gaza’s Nuseirat.

[DemRed]

er no
its according to the vile Qatari news network Al Jazeera is stridently denying any link to Gaza-based journalist Abdallah Aljamal, amid unverified rumors that hostage Noa Argamani had been held at his home in central Gaza’s Nuseirat.

The Israel Hayom isn't exactly reliable according to Media Bias Fact check

Overall, we rate Israel Hayom Right Biased based on editorial positions that strongly favor the right. We also rate them as Mixed for factual reporting due to failed fact checks and the promotion of pro-government propaganda.

[user104658]

The Israel Hayom isn't exactly reliable according to Media Bias Fact check

Overall, we rate Israel Hayom Right Biased based on editorial positions that strongly favor the right. We also rate them as Mixed for factual reporting due to failed fact checks and the promotion of pro-government propaganda.

Loving LT's mainstream media shill era.

[user104658]

er no
its according to the vile Qatari news network Al Jazeera is stridently denying any link to Gaza-based journalist Abdallah Aljamal, amid unverified rumors that hostage Noa Argamani had been held at his home in central Gaza’s Nuseirat.

Its not exactly hard to verify - if he was an Al Jazeera journalist there will be Al Jazeera content he's created. Where is it.

[Beso]

Dont matter what he does or where he works...hes an evil beast.

Or should I say, a dead evil beast..hahaha..hope it was painful.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its not exactly hard to verify - if he was an Al Jazeera journalist there will be Al Jazeera content he's created. Where is it.

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[user104658]

Dont matter what he does or where he works...hes an evil beast.

It does matter when we have members confidently announcing that he worked somewhere that he did not work :umm2:.

[user104658]

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Can you point me to the part that shows that this is Al Jazeera content?

[Beso]

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Lovely clean clothing..must have been done at the dry cleaners.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Can you point me to the part that shows that this is Al Jazeera content?

he is a journo for the Palestine Chronicle and I expect worked freelance and AJ used his content regularly as it fully suited their worldview. They did conform they used him in 2019.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He also has a profile page on the Al Jazeera website, where he is described as reporting
from the 2018–2019 Gaza border riots, called the “Great March of Return” by Palestinians.

[user104658]

So not "an Al Jazeera journalist" then. Thank you for clarifying.

[Crimson Dynamo]

So not "an Al Jazeera journalist" then. Thank you for clarifying.

Sorry if you have used AJ links too, I did not know

thankfully you or Red wont use them again

[user104658]

Sorry if you have used AJ links too, I did not know

thankfully you or Red wont use them again

You know fine well that I don't bother linking sources of any kind, ever.

[DemRed]

Seems to me, you can only take what Israel tells us with a pinch of salt

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Dem

You have posted links to Hamas-related Al Jazeera

now its videos from a shady organization called "The Electronic Intifada"

I mean come off it

we see you

[DemRed]

U.S. Jewish army intel officer quits over Gaza. Says "Impossible Not to See Echoes of Holocaust".

U.S state department official Doctor Annelle Sheline resigns over Americas unconditional support for Israel.

Hamas have expressed “readiness to positively” reach a deal to end the war in Gaza in a statement. They added that they submitted their response to the proposed Gaza ceasefire deal to Qatari and Egyptian mediators.

[DemRed]

Dem

You have posted links to Hamas-related Al Jazeera

now its videos from a shady organization called "The Electronic Intifada"

I mean come off it

we see you

Anything that doesn't follow your nerative is debunked as shady.

You see this Israeli hostage (one of the Israelis captured by Hamas on Oct 7th) as a liar. That shows how low you are prepared to stoop to support your belief.

[user104658]

Anything that doesn't follow your nerative is debunked as shady.

You see this Israeli hostage (one of the Israelis captured by Hamas on Oct 7th) as a liar. That shows how low you are prepared to stoop to support your belief.

If it goes against the narrative they're a liar. If it supports the narrative they must be believed at all costs and it's disgusting to ask for evidence. LT is always right DemRed you must have realised that by now. Always right.

[DemRed]

If it goes against the narrative they're a liar. If it supports the narrative they must be believed at all costs and it's disgusting to ask for evidence. LT is always right DemRed you must have realised that by now. Always right.

I do realise that SD!
I don't know if you are on Telegram If you are, you should join 'Eye on Palestine'. Some of it is pretty hard to see, but seeing these atrocities is being a witness to it.

[DemRed]

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[DemRed]

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[arista]

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Yes Tragic,
glad he can play on the beach.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Just some Muslim mothers walking their children through a Jewish neighborhood in Toronto carrying Swastikas...

https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1800682139526279360

:skull:

[DemRed]

Yes Tragic,
glad he can play on the beach.

So many children have had limbs amputated Arista.
I recently saw some footage, so disturbing, that I can't get it out of my head. Two young brothers were fired on with dumdum bullets. The eldest was killed instantly. The younger one was screaming and trying to get up off the ground. An adult rushed in to pick him up and as he did, he left behind this boys arm and a leg.
I don't want to see things like that but I feel we all have a duty to be a witness of these atrocities.
MSM and your run of the mill channels, can't and wont show such footage.

[Beso]

I do realise that SD!
I don't know if you are on Telegram If you are, you should join 'Eye on Palestine'. Some of it is pretty hard to see, but seeing these atrocities is being a witness to it.

And you must always share with TIBB from the comfort of your own home.

[DemRed]

And you must always share with TIBB from the comfort of your own home.

Or the comfort of work. That said, I am going to Gaza as soon as this war is over.

[Beso]

Or the comfort of work. That said, I am going to Gaza as soon as this war is over.

I hope it's to help people. Infact I imagine it's to help people. If it is I take my hat of to you.

I wasnt digging you out, I was just meaning how easy it is for us all to get sucked in too far with things we cant change. The idea of watching those sort of videos again just for the hell it made me feel as though I should try and stop people who havnt seen things like that from seeing them, especially with its age limit on the site.

Hopefully you are still young and fit by the time it's all over, and good luck in whatever it is you are planning to do.

[DemRed]

I hope it's to help people. Infact I imagine it's to help people. If it is I take my hat of to you.

I wasnt digging you out, I was just meaning how easy it is for us all to get sucked in too far with things we cant change. The idea of watching those sort of videos again just for the hell it made me feel as though I should try and stop people who havnt seen things like that from seeing them, especially with its age limit on the site.

Hopefully you are still young and fit by the time it's all over, and good luck in whatever it is you are planning to do.

Thanks.

I doubt it's going to happen anytime soon. I have Christian friends in Bethlehem who work for 'World Vision' and so I plan to go to Bethlahem first and then on to Gaza with a group.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes Tragic,
glad he can play on the beach.

Tragic that Hamas use children as shields and pawns in their disgusting terrorist ways

[DemRed]

Tragic that Hamas use children as shields and pawns in their disgusting terrorist ways

Whatever the Israeli government tells you, the opposite is usually true.

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[DemRed]

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I have wondered about this for a while.

[Livia]

Wow.... Just... Wow...

[Crimson Dynamo]

James Patrick Anthony Dore (born July 26, 1965) is an American stand-up comedian,
political commentator, conspiracy theorist


:facepalm:

[DemRed]

It wasn't Dore who said this, it was Ben Swann and Ben Swan is a reputable investigative journalist.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Swann

[Livia]

And you pick it up and run with it. It's a disgusting theory.

[arista]

Sad News
8 IDS were killed by Hamas Terrorist
yesterday.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQMMpsOXMAAm7Hs?format=jpg&name=small

[Zizu]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQMMpsOXMAAm7Hs?format=jpg&name=small


Wow

Count me in .. where do I sign up?

LOL


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[Livia]

Us Jews do knock out a nice bird...

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQMuzCAWsAATS1E?format=jpg&name=360x360https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQMuzB8WIAAibZe?format=jpg&name=360x360

[Beso]

Hamas lovers protest descends into chaos as police seek to make an arrest for assault
Manchester uk
https://youtu.be/HxCCbPfjLDU?si=ljprymGDFti09XPb

[arista]

Hamas lovers protest descends into chaos as police seek to make an arrest for assault
Manchester uk
https://youtu.be/HxCCbPfjLDU?si=ljprymGDFti09XPb


What Numbers are the Assault
can not find it?

[Beso]

What Numbers are the Assault
can not find it?

You dont get to see the reported assault.

[arista]

You dont get to see the reported assault.


Bollocks

What the Hell are you Posting.......................

[Beso]

Bollocks

What the Hell are you Posting.......................

Oh you get to see it on another video..guy had his hand bruised by one of the protestors brolly.. went to report it to police, who then were attacked by the crowd whilst trying to arrest the fleeing suspect.

[arista]

Oh you get to see it on another video..guy had his hand bruised by one of the protestors brolly.. went to report it to police, who then were attacked by the crowd whilst trying to arrest the fleeing suspect.


Why did you not post that

[Beso]

Why did you not post that

Cause this is a better view of it...why dont you go away and edit your football hooligans thread into the correct albania v sebians that it was.

[arista]

You are a fraud

[A MUST WATCH VIDEO. hamas supporters get very very violent. Full scale brawl with police.]


Thats what the you tuber poster calls it

UTTER LIES posted By YOU

[Beso]

You are a fraud

[A MUST WATCH VIDEO. hamas supporters get very very violent. Full scale brawl with police.]


Thats what the you tuber poster calls it

UTTER LIES posted By YOU


I dint think Ofcom covers youtube so it could be tough titties for your pathetic angry outburst..

[Beso]

Arista can just eff off, but...

Anyone else who wants to see the umbrella assault, search "the looking glass" on youtube..

[arista]

I dint think Ofcom covers youtube so it could be tough titties for your pathetic angry outburst..


No
you are the Fool that posted it

[Beso]

No
you are the Fool that posted it

I've watched 3 videos on this, first one has the assault, but he edited out reporting it to the police. This one shows him reporting it to the police and the police chasing the fleeing suspect through the crowd.. the guy who was assaulted( the looking glass) can be seen directing the police to the person who assaulted him..looking glass has a hat on and a red rucksack..

You are the fool, why you may ask!!

.simple,its because you never listen to anyone cause your heads to far up your own atsehole.

[arista]

You made an error
adding that time-wasting video
to this thread

[Beso]

You made an error
adding that time-wasting video
to this thread

Would you feel better if I posted newspaper headlines in LTs youtube rabbit hole thread, like yourself?

[arista]

Would you feel better if I posted newspaper headlines in LTs youtube rabbit hole thread, like yourself?

That is a Special agreement I made with LT
to Chuck Silly
Star Front pages


LT is at a better level than you are

[Beso]

That is a Special agreement I made with LT
to Chuck Silly
Star Front pages


LT is at a better level than you are



Luckily for me it's not a compitition to see who's arse arista can lick most on tibb then, isnt it



For more video analysis, the crowd is chanting ' free all prisoners" which will include hamas fighters..

Showing true love for their freedom fighting brothers

[Beso]

The shorter version of the assault, arrests and mini riot, at the hamas lovers protest.

Nobody attacking the police new what the person had done, they just attacked and obstructed the police, the so called legal observers in orange high viz being some of the worst.

https://youtu.be/J97E_JnOkMo?si=9MnaxDA7jSwUYmig

[Beso]

The canary has its say on the days events.

https://www.thecanary.co/trending/2024/06/17/manchester-palestine-protest/

[DemRed]

Meanwhile, whilst MSM and far Right groups call such people Hamas supporters. It would be laughable if it wasn't so ridiculous.

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[DemRed]

And you pick it up and run with it. It's a disgusting theory.

The Israeli government is disgusting. Every time they open their mouth they spout propaganda.
You support the killing of children and the total destruction of Gaza...I DONT

[Livia]

The Israeli government is disgusting. Every time they open their mouth they spout propaganda.
You support the killing of children and the total destruction of Gaza...I DONT

I'm not going to respond to that claim of what I do and don't support. Nothing gives you the right to post dangerous and untrue propaganda because it suits your agenda.

[DemRed]

I'm not going to respond to that claim of what I do and don't support. Nothing gives you the right to post dangerous and untrue propaganda because it suits your agenda.

Cat Kettle Black with bells on.

[Livia]

Cat Kettle Black with bells on.

What? Never mind, I don't expect you to make sense.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Cat Kettle Black with bells on.

do you cook soup in a cat?

I think that is where you are going wrong Dem

[Oliver_W]

Just some Muslim mothers walking their children through a Jewish neighborhood in Toronto carrying Swastikas...

https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1800682139526279360

:skull:

You don't understand, they're only anti-Zionist, not anti-Jew.

[DemRed]

Israel have nukes, they could level Gazza in minutes. It seems Palestine has forgotten that If they nuke Palestine, they will get the shock waves (which could kill millions) in Israel

[user104658]

If they nuke Palestine, they will get the shock waves (which could kill millions) in Israel

They also quite blatantly consider Gaza to be (geographically) part of Israel and I imagine the long-term goal is to annex. They're not going to nuke land that they consider their own. They're also not going to (and probably literally can't) nuke anything at all without US approval.

[bots]

it all depends how threatened israel feel. Everyone is saying putin would never let lose with nukes, but the guy isn't rational, so normal rules don't apply

[user104658]

it all depends how threatened israel feel. Everyone is saying putin would never let lose with nukes, but the guy isn't rational, so normal rules don't apply


It's not really the same at all as Russia/Ukraine are absolutely massive land areas, Russia can use tactical nukes in Ukraine "safely" (in terms of the bombs themselves). As DemRed pointed out though, Israel can't use nuclear weapons in Palestine without Israel itself being affected. Literally affected by the blasts and fallout.

Whether or not they'd use them against, for example, Iran... is another question.

Again though, I don't think there's realistically any chance of Israel dropping a nuke without US and European approval. They cannot continue to exist plonked in the middle of the middle east without Western support in terms of just-about-everything... if they were to take desperate action that led to Western sanction it'd be over for Israel as a state.

There's also the small elephant in the room that, as you say, it's about how threatened Israel feel by Palestine but we all know that Gaza/Palestine are realsitically no threat whatsoever in military terms. It would be like using a double-barrelled shotgun to kill a mouse.

Again, Iran on the other hand... is where it's a different story.

[DemRed]

it all depends how threatened israel feel. Everyone is saying putin would never let lose with nukes, but the guy isn't rational, so normal rules don't apply

Israel's nuclear program has been in violation of international law for decades. Israel isn't recognised as a Nuclear Weapons State by the NPT

[Beso]

Israel's nuclear program has been in violation of international law for decades. Israel isn't recognised as a Nuclear Weapons State by the NPT

That's because they didnt sign up to the NPT. Same as India and Pakistan didnt.

So I dont think they can violate any laws. Russia however, one of the 1st to sign up are surely breaking laws by threatening to use nukes.

[DemRed]

That's because they didnt sign up to the NPT. Same as India and Pakistan didnt.

So I dont think they can violate any laws. Russia however, one of the 1st to sign up are surely breaking laws by threatening to use nukes.

Yep, though I think with Russia, it's a case of 'he said, she said'. MSM have been saying that Russia is threatening nukes and ten minutes later, Putins is putting out statements denying this.

[DemRed]

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Well said Frank Chikane

[Beso]

Yep, though I think with Russia, it's a case of 'he said, she said'. MSM have been saying that Russia is threatening nukes and ten minutes later, Putins is putting out statements denying this.

Israel have neither admitted nor denied it has nukes, so it's a case of he said, she said with that side of it as well as far as the NPT is concerned.

[Beso]

Israel's nuclear program has been in violation of international law for decades. Israel isn't recognised as a Nuclear Weapons State by the NPT

Can these lies be deleted.

[DemRed]

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I'll just leave this here

[Crimson Dynamo]

Terror supporters use CHILDREN to lead a march calling for the genocide of Jews in Cork, Ireland.

Dozens of children led a march chanting ‘There is only one solution’ as they chillingly called for the eradication of Israel.

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https://x.com/OliLondonTV/status/1807067575529996424

[Livia]

That's not wholly unexpected to be honest.

[arista]

Last night CH4HDnews
showed a report from Gaza

A 3 month year old baby girl
was saved from the ruble
her parents had died.

Her Aunt was there crying.

The Medics helped the baby girl
onto a clean table.

[arista]

The Left Winger Live on LBC
is now debating new UK Gaza MP's
and Labour's Problem with them.

[Livia]

Last night CH4HDnews
showed a report from Gaza

A 3 month year old baby girl
was saved from the ruble
her parents had died.

Her Aunt was there crying.

The Medics helped the baby girl
onto a clean table.

Very sad. Meanwhile, Russia bombed a children's hospital. You could see the children, bald from chemo, dragging their drip stands, making their way through the rubble. When can we expect protests against this?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Last night CH4HDnews
showed a report from Gaza

A 3 month year old baby girl
was saved from the ruble
her parents had died.

Her Aunt was there crying.

The Medics helped the baby girl
onto a clean table.

C4 ?

what a surprise...where did they get the footage from?

[arista]

C4 ?

what a surprise...where did they get the footage from?


A Doctor Filmed it for them


At least the Baby was saved.

[Crimson Dynamo]

A Doctor Filmed it for them


At least the Baby was saved.

"A Doctor"

:suspect:

[bots]

So a doctor was just standing around filming injured people rather than providing them with assistance? .... yeah, right

[Crimson Dynamo]

This is wild but sadly not surprising


Campaign Against Antisemitism
@antisemitism

“They use the Holocaust as a sort of cover.”

“It makes me very angry when people talk about the Jewish community because there’s no such thing.”

“Israel is nothing to do with being Jewish.”

Last night, Newham, Tower Hamlets and Redbridge National Education Union
hosted an event “in association with” the Newham, Tower Hamlets and
Redbridge branches of the Palestine Solidarity Campaign.

According to an online flyer for the event, the supposed conference would
include “workshops on antisemitism and anti-Zionism”.

Here is what took place.

Shocking audio here: https://x.com/antisemitism/status/1811792774007783744

And they are trying to get at children too

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GRj9i7NW0AA2oXV?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Sadly over 70 have now died.


[Hamas-run health ministry says
71 killed in Israeli strike in Gaza]




[The Hamas-run health ministry in Gaza says
at least 71 Palestinians have been killed
in an Israeli air strike on a
designated humanitarian area, in an attack
which Israel says targeted
senior Hamas leaders.

More than 289 people were injured,
according to the
health ministry's statement.

The strike reportedly hit the al-Mawasi area
near Khan Younis, which the Israeli military
has designated as a humanitarian zone,
urging Palestinians to seek shelter there.

An Israeli official said the strike targeted the
head of Hamas's military wing, Mohammed Deif,
in an "open area" where there
were "only Hamas terrorists and no civilians".

Rafa Salama, the Hamas commander for Khan Younis,
was also targeted in the strike, the official said,
calling the intelligence that led to the
incident "accurate".

But Hamas said the claim that their
leaders were targets is "false".]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cyx0qdkn45eo

[Crimson Dynamo]

No one apart from the BBC believes anything Hamas says

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hamas’ military chief ELIMINATED by air strike in Gaza.

The IDF has confirmed Mohammed Deif, the commander of Hamas’s military
wing, and Rafa’a Salameh, the commander of Hamas’s Khan Younis Brigade,
were taken out in an airstrike in the southern Gaza Strip this morning.


Deif was one of the masterminds of the Oct 7 attack, which claimed 1,200 lives.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSXM1iYWsAAo34K?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSXlf4sWUAAhRnL?format=jpg&name=small

[Beso]

Quick, hide the dollars and alcohol.


Nooooo, not like that.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hamas/Palestine activists have put out a list of JEWISH owned restaurants in
Montreal to boycott

It's starting to feel a lot like 1930's Germany again here in Canada and the
lunatic WOKE left is cheering this on

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSEc0nFWcAAtCUa?format=jpg&name=360x360https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GSEc0qUXcAAueB3?format=jpg&name=360x360

https://x.com/truckdriverpleb/status/1810760225731006622