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Why did Iran fire missiles?
because its a terrorist regime determined to wipe out Israel
The Slim Reaper
01-10-2024, 07:26 PM
because its a terrorist regime determined to wipe out Israel
Life is simple when we avoid thinking:laugh: Iran just decided to bomb Israel today for a laugh. Not even you believe that nonsense.
The Slim Reaper
01-10-2024, 07:26 PM
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arista
01-10-2024, 07:41 PM
PM Starmer now Live
arista
01-10-2024, 07:45 PM
PM was taking questions
Life is simple when we avoid thinking:laugh: Iran just decided to bomb Israel today, for a laugh. Not even you believe that nonsense.
not even you can deny that iran and all its proxies that surround Israel have vowed to wipe them out. I've been around for a lot longer than you, i have seen what Israel has had to endure for over 60 years, so dont think you know more on the subject than i do
The Slim Reaper
01-10-2024, 08:43 PM
not even you can deny that iran and all its proxies that surround Israel have vowed to wipe them out. I've been around for a lot longer than you, i have seen what Israel has had to endure for over 60 years, so dont think you know more on the subject than i do
Israel has been the aggressor for 60 years. The basic denial of this fact shows that you really don't know anything. We can look at Iran, too, if you want? Why did they go from a relatively progressive country, where women would wear bikini's, to more of a religiously repressed theocracy? Same with the formerly socialist Afghanistan.
When you say I'm older so I know more, without any evidence to back that up, then it's a bit of a failure, my brother.
Israel has been the aggressor for 60 years. The basic denial of this fact shows that you really don't know anything. We can look at Iran, too, if you want? Why did they go from a relatively progressive country, where women would wear bikini's, to more of a religiously repressed theocracy? Same with the formerly socialist Afghanistan.
When you say I'm older so I know more, without any evidence to back that up, then it's a bit of a failure, my brother.
i find your condescending, know it all attitude insulting. You obviously either don't understand what has really happened to israel over the years or you are fully behind the terrorists ie a terrorist sympathiser. I think you have made it clear through your posting history exactly what you are
user104658
01-10-2024, 09:21 PM
Te assertion that age = wisdom, being stated on this forum of all places, it absolutely WILD :umm2:.
There might be a point there if there were many younger members. I don't believe there are many people here that aren't at least pushing 40 at this point. "I've been around longer than you, sonny" is daft. An extremely lazy strawman.
Youre offering absolutely nothing to back up your statements bots, other than "I'm old so trust me bro". It's not any sort of an argument.
On the thread topic though;
The situation is utterly fkkked. There's little else to say.
The Slim Reaper
01-10-2024, 09:26 PM
i find your condescending, know it all attitude insulting. You obviously either don't understand what has really happened to israel over the years or you are fully behind the terrorists ie a terrorist sympathiser. I think you have made it clear through your posting history exactly what you are
I replied to a post where you said "I'm older, i know more" so spare me the southern belle hand wringing over condescension. Anyone can read my posts through this thread (which you obviously have). I've highlighted massacres throughout the modern history of Israel that go back to 1948, whereas you just repeat the same thing over and over.
See, here we are again.
Someone posts something
I challenge/correct it
Other poster posts about me.
I don't mind you posting about me, by the way, because it's both invariably nonsense, and yet slightly arousing, but at what point might you be willing to think about why you have to do that? You have all the facts on your side, right? I'm a terrorist-sympathising imbecile who knows nothing, right? You're older, right? Surely you have the odds heavily on your side?
Te assertion that age = wisdom, being stated on this forum of all places, it absolutely WILD :umm2:.
There might be a point there if there were many younger members. I don't believe there are many people here that aren't at least pushing 40 at this point. "I've been around longer than you, sonny" is daft. An extremely lazy strawman.
Youre offering absolutely nothing to back up your statements bots, other than "I'm old so trust me bro". It's not any sort of an argument.
On the thread topic though;
The situation is utterly fkkked. There's little else to say.
i've offered plenty, and with age does come experience. If you don't understand that then i'm wasting my time
user104658
01-10-2024, 09:33 PM
i've offered plenty, and with age does come experience. If you don't understand that then i'm wasting my time
With age CAN come experience, and if you tell me you don't know plenty of 40 year olds who have more political knowledge and life experience than some 70 year olds... Well, you're either lying or purposely blinkered. You know fine well there are plenty of utterly ignorant old folks out there and that a 40 year old is not a wet-behind-the-ears Uni student. Let's not be silly.
"You all just love terrorists and there's wars because the terrorists just hate stuff at random" is not an argument. It's in fact entirely useless as a statement.
With age CAN come experience, and if you tell me you don't know plenty of 40 year olds who have more political knowledge and life experience than some 70 year olds... Well, you're either lying or purposely blinkered. You know fine well there are plenty of utterly ignorant old folks out there and that a 40 year old is not a wet-behind-the-ears Uni student. Let's not be silly.
"You all just love terrorists and there's wars because the terrorists just hate stuff at random" is not an argument. It's in fact entirely useless as a statement.
Were you around when the Shah was over thrown? I doubt it. I was. Have you been involved in middle east security during your employment? I was. Do you still want to lecture and insult me?
Listening to Breaking Points while waiting for the debate and putting together dinner and they're talking about how desensitized to war we've become (as observers). They couldn't be more right.
arista
02-10-2024, 02:22 AM
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arista
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arista
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arista
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arista
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arista
02-10-2024, 02:32 AM
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arista
02-10-2024, 02:34 AM
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Gusto Brunt
02-10-2024, 05:46 AM
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And it's acknowledged all of the missiles, failed to hit any targets. Only person killed, a passerby. Sad but one death by 'accident' out of the thousands alreayd killed, a pretty good outcome.
But get this, any sane intelligent person would leave it at that, since Iran said this is concluded. But Israel now say they're going to hit back harder. Just LEAVE it. STOP making matters worse.:fist::fist:
if a country in europe attacked the UK with 200 ballistic missiles, do you think the population would allow the government to let the attack to go unanswered? Of course not
Mass shooting and stabbings in tel Aviv.
https://youtu.be/JOICYFMH7ck?si=Mgfu2FqsX67C6vC6
Crimson Dynamo
02-10-2024, 09:42 AM
BBC at it again as usual
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We are deeply concerned about our national broadcaster allowing such language to be transmitted via the airwaves without clear pushback.
We will be raising this directly with the BBC at the highest levels.
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Astonishing audio clip below from Today Porgramme
https://x.com/BoardofDeputies/status/1841061833035194804
Israel's foreign minister says UN Secretary-General António Guterres is "persona non grata" in Israel, and is barred from entering the country.
Israel Katz says his decision is a response to Guterres' failure to "unequivocally condemn" Iran's missile attack on Israel on Tuesday.
He accuses the UN chief of being "anti-Israel" and giving "support to terrorists, rapists, and murderers. Guterres will be remembered as a stain on the history of the UN for generations to come."
Yesterday, the UN chief condemned "the broadening of the Middle East conflict with escalation after escalation" and called for a ceasefire.
The Slim Reaper
02-10-2024, 11:22 AM
And it's acknowledged all of the missiles, failed to hit any targets. Only person killed, a passerby. Sad but one death by 'accident' out of the thousands alreayd killed, a pretty good outcome.
But get this, any sane intelligent person would leave it at that, since Iran said this is concluded. But Israel now say they're going to hit back harder. Just LEAVE it. STOP making matters worse.:fist::fist:
That's because Iran only fired at legitimate military targets. Israel has desensitised the world to bombing means at civilians, when they are war crimes.
arista
02-10-2024, 12:15 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GY03zfPXgAUkGzi?format=jpg&name=small
Yesterday a School was hit in Tel Aviv
last night - Good no one was there.
It is a Holiday for Schools now at this time
SkyNewsHD went inside the Damaged Building
That's because Iran only fired at legitimate military targets. Israel has desensitised the world to bombing means at civilians, when they are war crimes.
I take it the school was hit to stop any future soldiers?
user104658
02-10-2024, 01:01 PM
Were you around when the Shah was over thrown? I doubt it. I was. Have you been involved in middle east security during your employment? I was. Do you still want to lecture and insult me?
Sure.
The first part I don't find particularly relevant, an understanding of the politics and history of a given example does not rest on "being alive at the time". It can offer context and a point of view, obviously; it's not an ace up the sleeve.
As for being involved in middle-east security on an employment/professional level well I'm sorry BOTS but that outright makes banal statements like "you just love terrorists" even more uninsightful and ludicrous.
user104658
02-10-2024, 01:04 PM
I take it the school was hit to stop any future soldiers?
If reports are to be believed and the Iron Dome held and did its job, then what was struck by debris is irrelevant as it will not have been the target.
If Iran targeted a school and the school was hit, then the Iron Dome failed.
Take your pick both cannot be true. The latter would be a MUCH bigger problem.
If reports are to be believed and the Iron Dome held and did its job, then what was struck by debris is irrelevant as it will not have been the target.
If Iran targeted a school and the school was hit, then the Iron Dome failed.
Take your pick both cannot be true. The latter would be a MUCH bigger problem.
..missiles got through, and a school was hit...not by debris..so it was targeted..
user104658
02-10-2024, 02:15 PM
..missiles got through, and a school was hit...not by debris..so it was targeted..
Then the Iron Dome's limits have been successfully tested by Iran and Israel is in major trouble.
Then the Iron Dome's limits have been successfully tested by Iran and Israel is in major trouble.
Iran doesnt have the intelligence to defeat israel.
It was the obvious intention to test the domes defensive capability by trying to overwhelm it. The thing is, it's configurable. It's not static. Israel will have learnt stuff too
Also, everyone is saying will Israel take out Iran's oil production or nuclear plants. The first thing they will target is their command and control and missile and ammo storage sites meaning iran will be less capable of repeating similar attacks
if a country in europe attacked the UK with 200 ballistic missiles, do you think the population would allow the government to let the attack to go unanswered? Of course not
No, that would probably lead to a WW. Especially if they tried firing this way... Iran and its frens would be toast. Israel is an unfortunate but convenient proxy for all the hatred towards our country and its allies for their own campaigns through the Middle East. Those missiles are like needles being put into a Voo Doo doll... looks superficial, but intended to enact massive karmic damage to its target. "Here's what we want to actually happen to you..."
Sure.
The first part I don't find particularly relevant, an understanding of the politics and history of a given example does not rest on "being alive at the time". It can offer context and a point of view, obviously; it's not an ace up the sleeve.
As for being involved in middle-east security on an employment/professional level well I'm sorry BOTS but that outright makes banal statements like "you just love terrorists" even more uninsightful and ludicrous.
you really are obnoxious in your responses. You cannot conceive that someone would know more about a subject than you. All you do is jump in and throw slurs. I'm putting you on ignore
The Slim Reaper
02-10-2024, 02:51 PM
Israel have been taking out residential buildings in Lebanon. Why haven't you all been crying for the last year, as Israel have been repeatedly and purposefully bombing schools acting as shelters, hospitals, and universities? Only Israel deserves education?
No, that would probably lead to a WW. Especially if they tried firing this way... Iran and its frens would be toast. Israel is an unfortunate but convenient proxy for all the hatred towards our country and its allies for their own campaigns through the Middle East. Those missiles are like needles being put into a Voo Doo doll... looks superficial, but intended to enact massive karmic damage to its target. "Here's what we want to actually happen to you..."
when someone fires 200 ballistic missiles at you, you are at war. It's that simple. These aren't drones, every one of those missiles is capable of doing enormous damage. Israel's allies aren't even pretending otherwise now, it is war and they are involved because they can't let iran win
The Slim Reaper
02-10-2024, 02:58 PM
you really are obnoxious in your responses. You cannot conceive that someone would know more about a subject than you. All you do is jump in and throw slurs. I'm putting you on ignore
What are you classing as a slur? You're the only person who has called anyone any names since Niamh warned against it.
arista
02-10-2024, 03:02 PM
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The Slim Reaper
02-10-2024, 03:07 PM
when someone fires 200 ballistic missiles at you, you are at war. It's that simple. These aren't drones, every one of those missiles is capable of doing enormous damage. Israel's allies aren't even pretending otherwise now, it is war and they are involved because they can't let iran win
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arista
02-10-2024, 03:11 PM
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arista
02-10-2024, 03:12 PM
The UK Left Wing Paper
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arista
02-10-2024, 03:13 PM
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user104658
02-10-2024, 03:13 PM
you really are obnoxious in your responses. You cannot conceive that someone would know more about a subject than you. All you do is jump in and throw slurs. I'm putting you on ignore
I'd conceive that you knew anything at all about any subject you like if you demonstrate and evidence that knowledge instead of just insisting that everyone accepts that you know more about it for arbitrary reasons. I have no interest in anything but at least an attempt at a convincing argument. It's a somewhat doomed quest, I know.
user104658
02-10-2024, 03:22 PM
Iran doesnt have the intelligence to defeat israel.
Do you mean intelligence in terms of military intelligence? Or... Not enough intelligent people? I'm not sure either makes sense really. They don't have the firepower (because Israel's is effectively infinite due to their allies) but that doesnt have anything to do with either variety of intelligence.
Anyway, I didn't mean Israel is in trouble in terms of Iran specifically; their position in the middle East is and always has been precarious, an exposed weakness would be a problem. The press seems to be insistent that no weakness has been exposed but I'll trust you if you're saying differently.
arista
02-10-2024, 03:53 PM
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arista
02-10-2024, 03:56 PM
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arista
02-10-2024, 04:03 PM
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Do you mean intelligence in terms of military intelligence? Or... Not enough intelligent people? I'm not sure either makes sense really. They don't have the firepower (because Israel's is effectively infinite due to their allies) but that doesnt have anything to do with either variety of intelligence.
Anyway, I didn't mean Israel is in trouble in terms of Iran specifically; their position in the middle East is and always has been precarious, an exposed weakness would be a problem. The press seems to be insistent that no weakness has been exposed but I'll trust you if you're saying differently.
All I did was type in to google, did any Iranian missiles hit israel...the guardian says yes..
arista
02-10-2024, 06:26 PM
Sadly 9 Israeli Troops have been killed
in Lebanon.
The Slim Reaper
02-10-2024, 07:40 PM
Israel bombed a school in Gaza, as retaliation for Iran attacking their legitimate military targets. 51 people killed. Lets cry for 9 invaders though.
The Slim Reaper
02-10-2024, 07:44 PM
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thesheriff443
02-10-2024, 07:44 PM
Israel bombed a school in Gaza, as retaliation for Iran attacking their legitimate military targets. 51 people killed. Lets cry for 9 invaders though.
Let’s be real you are not crying for the 51 that got killed
Only deaths that are friends and family cause us to cry
The Slim Reaper
02-10-2024, 07:47 PM
Let’s be real you are not crying for the 51 that got killed
Only deaths that are friends and family cause us to cry
Let's be real, I didn't say I was. I was highlighting that 9 foreign invaders get more sympathy than 51 people who are displaced and sheltering. Weird.
Crimson Dynamo
02-10-2024, 07:48 PM
Sadly 9 Israeli Troops have been killed
in Lebanon.
Yes very sad most in their early 20s
thesheriff443
02-10-2024, 08:02 PM
Let's be real, I didn't say I was. I was highlighting that 9 foreign invaders get more sympathy than 51 people who are displaced and sheltering. Weird.
It’s not weird what is weird is using the death of 51 people to get leverage in a thread.
Soldiers have families just like the other 51 people that died
The Slim Reaper
02-10-2024, 08:15 PM
It’s not weird what is weird is using the death of 51 people to get leverage in a thread.
Soldiers have families just like the other 51 people that died
Get leverage? Surely your issue should be with Arista, who only mentioned the 9 people, and not the 51?
Soldiers know what they sign up for, which is another reason why your point falls flat.
thesheriff443
02-10-2024, 09:48 PM
Get leverage? Surely your issue should be with Arista, who only mentioned the 9 people, and not the 51?
Soldiers know what they sign up for, which is another reason why your point falls flat.
I’m talking about families regardless of them being soldiers or civilians
Cherie
02-10-2024, 09:48 PM
Get leverage? Surely your issue should be with Arista, who only mentioned the 9 people, and not the 51?
Soldiers know what they sign up for, which is another reason why your point falls flat.
Are they not conscripted?
The Slim Reaper
02-10-2024, 10:13 PM
Are they not conscripted?
They have a choice. Lot's of Israelis have taken a prison term to avoid participating in a genocide.
The Slim Reaper
02-10-2024, 10:16 PM
I’m talking about families regardless of them being soldiers or civilians
You would have read Arista's post before mine, yet you somehow didn't feel the need to tell Arista that other people have died. Then you claimed I brought up a massacre in a school, for leverage. I'm not sure what we're doing at this point.
Cherie
02-10-2024, 10:56 PM
They have a choice. Lot's of Israelis have taken a prison term to avoid participating in a genocide.
like a rock and a hard place, but acceptable to you obvs
These wars stop in 34 days. When Trump wins.
Or maybe when he takes office in the back end of January.
arista
03-10-2024, 05:29 AM
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arista
03-10-2024, 05:33 AM
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arista
03-10-2024, 05:41 AM
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arista
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arista
03-10-2024, 05:45 AM
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03-10-2024, 05:45 AM
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arista
03-10-2024, 05:52 AM
The Online Only Front Page
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The Slim Reaper
03-10-2024, 10:50 AM
like a rock and a hard place, but acceptable to you obvs
Absolutely acceptable to me. I would take prison every day over joining a genocidal army. It's not even a question.
Cherie
03-10-2024, 10:52 AM
Absolutely acceptable to me. I would take prison every day over joining a genocidal army. It's not even a question.
Aren't you lucky you don't have to put that to the test, easy to say that when you may never have to make the choice, sitting in our armchairs judging from afar
The Slim Reaper
03-10-2024, 11:19 AM
Aren't you lucky you don't have to put that to the test, easy to say that when you may never have to make the choice, sitting in our armchairs judging from afar
I wouldn't consider the choice in any way to be a test. It's not a test when there is only one option.
arista
03-10-2024, 11:06 PM
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arista
04-10-2024, 05:34 AM
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arista
04-10-2024, 05:35 AM
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The Slim Reaper
04-10-2024, 08:08 PM
Self-titled most moral army in the world.
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arista
05-10-2024, 06:02 AM
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arista
05-10-2024, 09:20 PM
[French President Emmanuel Macron called for a halt
to the delivery of weapons to be used
in the Gaza Strip.
Macron made the comments in an interview
on the French radio show “Etcetera” on
France Inter, which was recorded on Oct. 1
and aired on Saturday.]
arista
06-10-2024, 06:38 AM
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arista
06-10-2024, 10:58 AM
Yesterday in Washington DC in America
a crazy protestor set his arm alight
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Good, they put it out.
His name is Samuel Mena Jr.
['I'm a journalist, and I said it was okay,' he wailed.
Toward the end of the video,
which was recorded by Jessica Costescu,
a bystander rushes over to Mena and pours
some water on his burned arm.
A moment later, a cop shoves him out of the
way and screams 'back it up!']
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13928909/Samuel-Mena-Jr-self-immolates-White-House.html
Crimson Dynamo
06-10-2024, 11:26 AM
what an attention seeking pratt
arista
06-10-2024, 11:46 AM
what an attention seeking pratt
He changed nothing
Now banned from that area
arista
06-10-2024, 05:02 PM
Lebanon
has lost many civilians.
A School was hit
The IDF troops have entered the Lebanon Tunnels
Some are going back to worn-torn Syria,
Syria is letting them in.
Around 1 million are sadly now displaced, in Lebanon
In Gaza, sadly nothing has changed
low amounts of aid are getting in.
Around 430,000 civilians are stuck in Gaza.
Ch4HDnews.
arista
06-10-2024, 10:02 PM
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arista
06-10-2024, 10:03 PM
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arista
06-10-2024, 10:04 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-7c5cd50f-0f14-4d58-acdf-0c20afe3e0c0.png
arista
07-10-2024, 02:40 PM
PM Starmer
now Live in the UK Parliament
talking about the Region War
Crimson Dynamo
07-10-2024, 02:48 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GZS39csWIAAPmb7?format=jpg&name=900x900
joeysteele
07-10-2024, 03:18 PM
My thoughts today are with the Israeli families of those who remain as hostages.
A year on.
I cannot imagine the fear, pain and stress those families must be suffering.
Not knowing if their loved ones are even still alive.
Heartbreaking.
arista
07-10-2024, 03:21 PM
Yesterday in Hove, East Sussex
[This is the moment an 'evil old man'
in Brighton heartlessly destroyed a memorial
to victims of the October 7 massacre.
The man, dressed in beige trousers and
a shirt with a black cap, was filmed tossing flowers,
throwing the plaque, a football
and teddy bears left in Hove, Brighton
as a tribute to those who tragically lost their lives.
The woman filming can be heard gasping
and asking 'what the F...why' quietly]
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/06/19/90526433-13930611-Atrocious_footage_shows_a_man_heartlessly_destroyi ng_a_memorial_-a-46_1728240679203.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/06/20/90526979-13930611-image-a-67_1728242344913.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/06/20/90526989-13930611-image-a-68_1728242348895.jpg
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13930611/evil-old-man-trashes-October-7th-anniversary-memorial-Brighton-calls-arrest.html
arista
08-10-2024, 05:34 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/6bfb/live/a6f29800-8502-11ef-83dd-fbf1b9732cf0.jpg.webp
arista
08-10-2024, 05:47 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/b88c/live/700661f0-8502-11ef-ad45-893aa022fcbc.jpg.webp
arista
12-10-2024, 12:20 AM
Ch4HDnews
had a shocking report from Gaza,
A once middle-class family
Stuck under rubble were rescued
after 6 days with no food or water
taken to a hospital.
A man's two brothers died from the
massive Missile Strike
on their flats.
No Hamas were in that building at all.
arista
15-10-2024, 12:30 PM
Israel has Confirmed to Biden
that they will only attack Irans Military Sites
That way he keeps
his USA Military orders
All Media.
arista
15-10-2024, 02:46 PM
A day back,
a Hezbollah Drone
came in from the sea,
it hit 4 Young Israeli Soldiers
all aged 19, died.
It was an eating hall
One Drone was taken down
but this Bomber Drone
got through.
Ch4HDnews
last night
arista
15-10-2024, 03:45 PM
From Gravitas Live on WION HD
The Hezbollah Drones fly low down
from the sea, that is why one got through to
Israeli Brigade, killing 4,
19 year old troops.
arista
17-10-2024, 05:41 PM
Evil Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar
has been Killed by the IDF
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/17/16/90974869-0-image-a-34_1729179733485.jpg
Good they have got him dead
[Sinwar (above) masterminding
the shocking October 7 attack
on Israel that triggered the war]
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/10/17/16/90544119-0-A_Pro_Palestinian_protester_holds_a_picture_of_Ham as_leader_Yahy-a-36_1729179890609.jpg
In the USA a protestor
holds up the evil Sinwar photo.
https://news.sky.com/story/israeli-military-says-it-is-checking-possibility-it-has-killed-hamas-leader-yahya-sinwar-13235269
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cy94zdd0nxlt
arista
18-10-2024, 05:47 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/db4c/live/32d04d20-8cc6-11ef-81f8-1f28bcc5be15.jpg.webp
arista
18-10-2024, 05:47 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/4348/live/f99ee530-8cc9-11ef-b6b0-c9af5f7f16e4.jpg.webp
arista
18-10-2024, 05:49 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/c6f9/live/e6c51f30-8ccc-11ef-8936-1185f9e7d044.jpg.webp
arista
18-10-2024, 05:50 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/9e4b/live/74024740-8ccf-11ef-8936-1185f9e7d044.jpg.webp
Crimson Dynamo
19-10-2024, 03:27 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GaQ1XJXWIAAavvK?format=jpg&name=small
arista
20-10-2024, 04:17 PM
Today 87 public died
in Gaza.
All Media.
arista
21-10-2024, 09:50 AM
Today the IDF
Hit many Banks in the Lebanon
making the Financial Zone not work.
Using their IDF missiles
On all media
DemRed
21-10-2024, 09:02 PM
I acknowledge the Palestinian people and all that they suffer. I say a special prayer to Shaban Al-Dalu who was 1 day away from his 20th birthday
He still had an IV line to his arm as he burnt to death in a tent outside the hospital, where he was recovering from a war injury.
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DemRed
21-10-2024, 09:59 PM
The best video I've watched about 7th October and the ongoing war, is an Israeli Jewish reporter. I learnt so much from this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt_1k7nSv1M&t=0s
Here we go....
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Israel bombs Iran: Explosions are heard across Tehran as 'IDF forces launch retaliatory strikes' while blasts also hit Syria
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14004161/Multiple-explosions-seen-Irans-capital-Tehran.html
Explosions have been heard across Tehran as IDF forces announce they have launched retaliatory strikes in the region.
The Israeli military has said it is conducting 'precise strikes' on military targets in Iran in response to what it called 'the continuous attacks from the regime in Iran against Israel'.
There have been reports of at least five explosions that have rocked the city of Tehran, as well as loud blasts heard in the Damascus countryside and central region.
The Middle East has been on edge in anticipation of Israeli retaliation for Iran's attack on October 1, in which around 200 ballistic missiles were fired at Israel, Iran's second direct attack on Israel in six months.
An Israeli military statement said that Israel 'has the right and the duty to respond', although it did not elaborate on targets.
Adding: 'The regime in Iran and its proxies in the region have been relentlessly attacking Israel since Oct. 7 - on seven fronts - including direct attacks from Iranian soil.'
Witnesses in Tehran confirmed hearing loud explosions said: 'It was so loud and the sky became red,' said an Iranian resident in Tehran, who asked not to be named...
arista
26-10-2024, 05:29 AM
Yes now Concluded, they have confirmed
[Precise strikes on military targets in Iran]
arista
26-10-2024, 05:41 AM
The regular trouble talker Seyed in
the Iran University
says Iran will fire back
Live on SkyNewsHD
[Professor Seyed Mohammad Marandi
from the University of Tehran]
arista
26-10-2024, 12:07 PM
2 Iranian Soldiers were killed
last night.
The Slim Reaper
28-10-2024, 08:53 PM
Now that Israel has been attacking the Irish peacekeeping force in Lebanon, I wonder if Bots will come out and condemn the Irish.
The Slim Reaper
28-10-2024, 08:54 PM
Today 87 public died
in Gaza.
All Media.
Public just died, did they? Just walking through the streets before just happening to keel over? They were murdered, brother.
arista
30-10-2024, 04:21 PM
[Israel's parliament voted on Monday
evening to ban the UN's Palestinian refugee
agency (Unrwa) from operating within
Israel and occupied East Jerusalem.
Contact between Unrwa employees
and Israeli officials will be banned,
crippling its ability to operate
in Gaza and the Israeli-occupied West Bank.
Almost all of Gaza's population of more than
two million people are dependent on aid
and services from the agency.
The move has faced widespread
condemnation, with Unrwa warning the
new law could see aid supply chains
"fall apart" in the coming weeks.
Israel has defended the move,
repeating its allegation that a number
of the agency's staff were involved in
Hamas's 7 October attacks last year,
which killed 1,200 people.
However, Israel's opposition to
Unrwa also goes back decades.]
Yesterday Ch4HDnews showed a report
of a UNRWA run school for children
full of young children,
sadly it will soon have to close....
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8jy9v43z89o
The Slim Reaper
04-11-2024, 04:58 PM
Remember when folks pretended to be horrified at the suggestion that Israel might have bombed a hospital?
1853011776100561032
Qatar has kicked Hamas out of the country. The Trump effect?
Gazanians condemn Hamas, and declare Israel as their saviours
https://youtu.be/odPJdubKe0c?si=3jcNFL5z2GXfa8zy
Qatar has kicked Hamas out of the country. The Trump effect?
Ceasefire now agreed between Israel and Hezbollah. The Trump effect again?
arista
26-11-2024, 06:52 PM
The Leader of Israel
Has now agreed a Ceasefire
With both Hamas and Lebanon
https://news.sky.com/story/israel-hezbollah-war-lebanon-middle-east-hamas-gaza-latest-live-12978800
Ceasefire now agreed between Israel and Hezbollah. The Trump effect again?
Trump is not allowed to be involved yet, but i'm guessing Hezbollah knows how it will go for them in january
Oliver_W
26-11-2024, 08:43 PM
Trump is not allowed to be involved yet, but i'm guessing Hezbollah knows how it will go for them in january
Yeah it was probably the threat of Trump rather than the man himself.
Sounds more like a scale back for bigger things to come, to me.
Gusto Brunt
27-11-2024, 12:32 AM
The Leader of Israel
Has now agreed a Ceasefire
With both Hamas and Lebanon
https://news.sky.com/story/israel-hezbollah-war-lebanon-middle-east-hamas-gaza-latest-live-12978800
That's welcome news.
arista
01-12-2024, 01:21 AM
Report on Ch4HDnews Saturday.
In Gaza
USA World Kitchen has halted working there.
After 3 of their workers were killed.
Israel stated one was a Terrorist.
He ain't playing games.
1863659567604814231
Livia
02-12-2024, 07:42 PM
I'm glad the hostages have been remembered.
user104658
05-12-2024, 09:54 AM
He ain't playing games.
1863659567604814231
No one but his will see his message though Alf because only right-wing Musk/Trump humpers are still using X.
No one but his will see his message though Alf because only right-wing Musk/Trump humpers are still using X.
https://twitter.com/labour?lang=en
Crimson Dynamo
14-12-2024, 04:40 PM
OH
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gexaf9NXwAAMv2i?format=jpg&name=small
Livia
14-12-2024, 04:42 PM
Well, I'm shocked...................
Crimson Dynamo
14-12-2024, 04:48 PM
Aaaaaaaaannnnnnnnddddddd....
BBC ‘portrayed Palestinian gunmen killed in Gaza as innocent civilians’
Palestinian gunmen killed in Gaza have been repeatedly portrayed as
innocent civilians by the BBC, it has been claimed.
The broadcaster has been accused of failing to inform viewers that many of
the Palestinians killed in clashes with Israeli soldiers were fighters with terror
groups such as Hamas.
Research by the Committee for Accuracy in Middle East Reporting and
Analysis (Camera) has highlighted numerous broadcast reports and online
stories by BBC Arabic, which it claims failed to reveal the full circumstances
surrounding the death of more than 30 Palestinians.
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/news/2024/12/13/TELEMMGLPICT000404845119_17341244000880_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4Bqcb15D5j-aIE0rvtZU-Gw0f4Xpit_DMGvdp2n7FDd82k.jpeg?imwidth=600
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/12/14/bbc-palestinian-hamas-fighters-arabic-innocent/
:rolleyes:
user104658
14-12-2024, 07:38 PM
Aaaaaaaaannnnnnnnddddddd....
:skull:
Livia
15-12-2024, 12:34 PM
Aaaaaaaaannnnnnnnddddddd....
BBC ‘portrayed Palestinian gunmen killed in Gaza as innocent civilians’
Palestinian gunmen killed in Gaza have been repeatedly portrayed as
innocent civilians by the BBC, it has been claimed.
Etc.......
:rolleyes:
I particularly liked the BBC continuing to show the same man over and over playing different roles... First as a civilian surveying bomb damage, then weeping and smacking his own head, then as a stretcher bearer, then as a doctor... So versatile.
I particularly liked the BBC continuing to show the same man over and over playing different roles... First as a civilian surveying bomb damage, then weeping and smacking his own head, then as a stretcher bearer, then as a doctor... So versatile.
and they have the cheek to use the BBC verify stamp of approval everywhere like it is a guarantee their news is faultless
Crimson Dynamo
15-12-2024, 01:41 PM
and they have the cheek to use the BBC verify stamp of approval everywhere like it is a guarantee their news is faultless
Its them marking their own homework
astounding arrogance
The Slim Reaper
16-12-2024, 12:54 PM
https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/1215/1486609-israel-embassy/
Israel to close Dublin embassy over 'anti-Israel policies'
Israel will close its embassy in Dublin in light of "the extreme anti-Israel policies of the Irish government," Israeli Foreign Minister Gideon Saar has said in a statement.
"It should be noted that in the past, Israel's ambassador to Dublin was recalled following Ireland's unilateral decision to recognise a 'Palestinian state'," the statement said.
"Last week, Ireland announced its support for South Africa's legal action against Israel in the International Court of Justice (ICJ), accusing Israel of 'genocide’," it added.
Taoiseach Simon Harris has described the move as a "deeply regrettable decision" from the government of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu.
In a statement on X, Mr Harris said that he utterly rejected the assertion that Ireland is anti-Israel.
"Ireland is pro-peace, pro-human rights and pro-International law," Mr Harris said.
Speaking later, Mr Harris said: "What we're seeing unfolding in Gaza and in the West Bank is absolutely appalling, extraordinarily concerning and Ireland has consistently spoken up in favour of peace and a ceasefire and we’ve always called for the release of hostages and we’ve always supported the work of international courts.
"And while we will continue our diplomatic relations with Israel, we believe diplomatic relations are important, even when you vehemently disagree with the government of the country.
"We will not be in any way distracted by this development from continuing to speak out."
Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs Micheál Martin has said there are "no plans to close Ireland's embassy in Israel" despite the development.
"I believe firmly in the importance of maintaining diplomatic channels of communication and regret that this decision has been taken," he said .
On Wednesday, Mr Martin secured Government approval for Ireland to intervene in South Africa's case against Israel.
The case was initiated following the launch of military operations in Gaza after the 7 October 2023 attack.
It concerns breaches of the Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide in Gaza.
By filing a declaration of intervention, Ireland is not joining either side in the case.
Mr Martin proposed to intervene to promote a consistent interpretation of the Genocide Convention which prioritises the protection of civilian life, and to demonstrate Ireland's strong commitment to the rule of law and international justice.
Last month, Mr Harris said Irish authorities would detain Mr Netanyahu if he travelled to Ireland after the International Criminal Court issued an arrest warrant for him.
Israeli opposition leader Yair Lapid criticised his government's decision to close the embassy in Dublin.
In a statement on X, he said: "The way to deal with criticism is not to run away, but to stay and fight!".
He claimed the decision was "... a victory for anti-semitism and anti-Israeli organisation."
Mr Lapid argued: "Israel needs to maintain embassies precisely in places where there are acute conflicts with the government, and a foreign minister who is only concerned with surrender and escaping conflicts is not doing his job."
Chairperson of the Jewish Representative Council of Ireland Maurice Cohen has said he is "deeply concerned by the deterioration in relations between Ireland and Israel".
"While Ireland has always championed human rights and the rule of law, this intervention risks oversimplifying a highly complex and tragic conflict, unfairly isolating Israel, and undermining the integrity of the term 'genocide'.
"Ireland’s moral voice carries weight globally, and it is crucial that it reflects a fair and balanced approach, fostering dialogue rather than deepening division," Mr Cohen said in a statement.
"The closure of the Israeli Embassy in Ireland is particularly distressing for the Jewish community in Ireland, which has grown and diversified significantly in recent years," he added.
The ICC issued warrants for Mr Netanyahu and his former defence minister Yoav Gallant "for crimes against humanity and war crimes" committed between 8 October 2023, and May 20 this year in Gaza.
Earlier this year, the Israeli ambassador to Ireland, Dana Erlich, was recalled over the decision to recognise the State of Palestine.
The decision, announced in late May, meant the Government recognised Palestine as a sovereign and independent state, and agreed to establish full diplomatic relations between Dublin and Ramallah.
Spain and Norway recognised a Palestinian state on the same day, with Slovenia following a week later.
In March, Mr Martin said that while it was for the ICJ to decide whether genocide is being committed, he wanted to be clear that Hamas' attack on 7 October and what is happening in Gaza now "represents the blatant violation of international humanitarian law on a mass scale."
Mr Saar said Israel would invest its resources in building ties with other countries, and announced the opening of an embassy in Moldova.
Israeli embassy in Ireland
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ge4IripXcAAOiiZ?format=jpg&name=small
The Slim Reaper
16-12-2024, 03:56 PM
Reader notes
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Crimson Dynamo
16-12-2024, 04:12 PM
Reader notes
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sorry what has this to do with the thread?
user104658
16-12-2024, 04:17 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ge4IripXcAAOiiZ?format=jpg&name=small
I can't decide if this is a really bad photoshop, or a really clever projector. If it's the latter I want one.
The Slim Reaper
16-12-2024, 04:41 PM
sorry what has this to do with the thread?
Absolutely everything.
Point out why you don't think this belongs in the thread (I'm not a mind reader), and we can have a discussion about it.
The Slim Reaper
16-12-2024, 04:41 PM
I can't decide if this is a really bad photoshop, or a really clever projector. If it's the latter I want one.
Pretty sure it's a projector. Led by don'keys use the same type of equipment.
Livia
16-12-2024, 05:20 PM
sorry what has this to do with the thread?
He's trying to imply that Jews are making up the anti-Semitism they face. Someone on Twitter said the banknote messages are fake so, in accordance with his usual anti-Jewish stance, it's a fake.
Crimson Dynamo
16-12-2024, 05:22 PM
He's trying to imply that Jews are making up the anti-Semitism they face. Someone on Twitter said the banknote messages are fake so, in accordance with his usual anti-Jewish stance, it's a fake.
its tiresome
Livia
16-12-2024, 05:25 PM
its tiresome
Tell me about it.
The Slim Reaper
16-12-2024, 05:40 PM
He's trying to imply that Jews are making up the anti-Semitism they face. Someone on Twitter said the banknote messages are fake so, in accordance with his usual anti-Jewish stance, it's a fake.
No I'm not, because anti Semitism completely exists and is actually on the rise. I'm not implying anything because it's 100% clear that this Jewish organisation have made up some of the anti Semitism it has faced, and to score political points against a politician they don't like.
The Slim Reaper
17-12-2024, 10:39 PM
https://en.safa.news/post/2865/Norwegian-Football-Association-Refuses-to-Play-Against-Israel-in-World-Cup-Qualifiers
Norwegian Football Association Refuses to Play Against Israel in World Cup Qualifiers
The Norwegian Football Association has announced its refusal to compete against the Israeli national team in the 2026 World Cup qualifiers for Europe, citing the ongoing genocide committed against millions of Palestinians since October 7, 2023.
Liz Klaveness, President of the Norwegian Football Association, has confirmed that the organisation is actively pressuring international football bodies to impose sanctions on Israel.
The French channel E24 News published statements from Klaveness regarding the qualifying draw, which placed Norway alongside Israel, Estonia, Moldova, and the loser of the Germany-Italy quarter-final in the European Nations League.
Klaveness expressed her solidarity with the Palestinian cause, stating: “The Football Association supports the Norwegian government's stance and demands an immediate halt to Israeli attacks on innocent civilians in Gaza.” She added, “None of us can remain indifferent to the ongoing atrocities in Gaza.”
The Norwegian national team is scheduled to play its matches against Israel on 25 March and 11 October. However, the association’s decision to boycott raises uncertainty about whether these fixtures will proceed.
Crimson Dynamo
18-12-2024, 02:10 PM
Israeli embassy in Ireland
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ge4IripXcAAOiiZ?format=jpg&name=small
JOHN MCGUIRK: Ireland finds itself embroiled in what is now effectively a
hybrid war with the Israelis. This has happened entirely by accident, due to a
political class that spends its time play-acting at politics and expecting no
consequences for it:
https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1869373568443666432/00LLFFEJ?format=jpg&name=small
https://gript.ie/ireland-israel-row-continues/
arista
15-01-2025, 04:49 PM
CNN HD And Now all Media
reports Hamas Official Approves the New Ceasefire deal.
Hostage Release
And Israel, to release many of their prisoners
in an Exchange
Could allow 33 Israeli Hostages
to be released in the first phase.
arista
15-01-2025, 04:54 PM
Qatar is to Hold a News Conference
very soon.
Hamas would like to start Tomorrow.
Israel prefers this Sunday.
arista
15-01-2025, 05:06 PM
Hamas has stated Females and under 19's
in the first phase.
Cherie
15-01-2025, 06:26 PM
Hamas has stated Females and under 19's
in the first phase.
Great news
Who will get the credit for this, Biden or the incoming Trump
Cherie
15-01-2025, 06:27 PM
Qatar is to Hold a News Conference
very soon.
Hamas would like to start Tomorrow.
Israel prefers this Sunday.
wtf, these days will be agony for families waiting to see if their family members are alive or dead
arista
15-01-2025, 06:57 PM
Live in Qatari now
arista
15-01-2025, 07:06 PM
President Biden now talking
is it to give Biden a win the day before he leaves office? The timing seems very suspect
arista
16-01-2025, 01:09 AM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-d91d6564-7aa7-4c5b-9cab-4100fd9f3ba2.jpeg
arista
16-01-2025, 01:09 AM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-ba734125-6cae-4509-9016-741c4b0a8537.png
arista
16-01-2025, 01:10 AM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-dde53460-f4ff-46e7-977c-d7557c67d4f9.png
arista
16-01-2025, 01:11 AM
The Online Only Paper
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-46a6e5f7-95b9-438f-bccc-a998b1c2c1b1.png
i think it's beyond dispute that Trump coming in to power imminently is what led to the ceasefire
…however much it’s deliberated as to what led to it, I’m just glad of the ceasefire…:love:…
joeysteele
16-01-2025, 09:14 AM
…however much it’s deliberated as to what led to it, I’m just glad of the ceasefire…:love:…
Absolutely.
I couldn't care who gets more credit for it, Biden, Trump or both.
Or the teams working to get in from Israeli sources and Palestinian ones too.
The fact there's any agreement to halt the conflict and give even a small chance of hope for the future is what is most welcome.
For both Israel and the Palestinians.
That to me is all that matters.
Livia
16-01-2025, 11:35 AM
Biden couldn't find his arse in the dark with both hands. It might have been his administration that helped bring this about but it was probably easier to do if Biden kept out of it. Of course, the threat of Trump wouldn't have hindered it.
user104658
16-01-2025, 11:45 AM
Reading between the lines I think it's actually Israel he's taken a hard line with (behind the scenes) - there's a clip where he talks about hostages and how not releasing them would be bad for Hamas and then adds "For everyone, actually" or something like that. That's not an accident he knows what he's doing. I despise Trump's politics but have had to accept that he is unfortunately not stupid, he's clever and manipulative and picks his words carefully, his "rambling speeches" are a meticulously planned out piece of theatre.
To add to that - I'm not saying he hasn't taken a hard line with Hamas, but I think it'll have changed less from what it already was than the rhetoric with Israel.
Trump is transactional, that's just simply what makes him tick. He will have done deals with israel and palestine to further his own interests. There are a million ways where america did this in the past, like the way they handled iraq. They bomb it into oblivion and then get awarded all the construction contracts to rebuild it. They have repeated that formula around the world and its really not much different to China providing loans to 3rd world countries
arista
16-01-2025, 12:02 PM
Phase 1 is now due to start this Sunday.
arista
16-01-2025, 02:25 PM
Sadly Israel Cabinet
has halted their meeting
until Hamas Fully agrees with the Deal.
So at this time
Israel has not signed this deal
until they vote on it
arista
16-01-2025, 04:40 PM
Live In Washington DC
USA Sec. Blinken
On SkyNewsHD/ BBCnewsHD
now taking questions
he thinks on the Sunday Ceasefire
it will all go through.
But I say
Israel has still got to agree - Blinken
arista
16-01-2025, 06:12 PM
Israel Cabinet
will debate it tomorrow
they have stated
I don't think it ends hostilities. I think it just delays them. The goal ultimately should be effecting peace in the Middle East as a whole. If they can get things into a better pattern, there's room for more consensus and improved relations, which can help keep bad actors at bay.... that could improve things for these countries longterm.
arista
16-01-2025, 11:57 PM
I don't think it ends hostilities. I think it just delays them. The goal ultimately should be effecting peace in the Middle East as a whole. If they can get things into a better pattern, there's room for more consensus and improved relations, which can help keep bad actors at bay.... that could improve things for these countries longterm.
Yes as Hamas stay in power
No change there.
arista
16-01-2025, 11:57 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-22ddf3a6-ae33-4811-ab28-f37047d0bd8c.png
arista
17-01-2025, 01:14 AM
Some of the Israel Cabinet
are going to resign
Once the Deal goes through.
SkyNewsHD report in Israel
arista
19-01-2025, 02:45 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/848c/live/57300f20-d5e1-11ef-9fd6-0be88a764111.jpg.webp
arista
19-01-2025, 10:10 AM
Delay in the Ceasefire
As Hamas would not release
the names of all the hostages to be released
3 names have been given
including one Israel-British lady.
https://news.sky.com/story/british-israeli-woman-among-first-three-hostages-hamas-plans-to-release-today-13292111
arista
19-01-2025, 10:15 AM
Hostage release
is now to be around 2PM UK Time
SkyNewsHD Live
arista
19-01-2025, 10:22 AM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/ckg0znng8x2t
https://news.sky.com/story/middle-east-latest-ceasefire-mediator-to-hold-news-conference-as-hamas-and-israel-on-brink-of-deal-12978800#8955210
https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-hamas-ceasefire-war-palestine-01-19-25/index.html
arista
19-01-2025, 10:24 AM
Israel-Gaza
Ceasefire has now begun.
Israel has stated,
Hamas can not stay in power?
arista
19-01-2025, 01:11 PM
8 killed in Gaza
this morning
as there was a delay in the ceasefire.
Now soon
3 Hostages will be released
Then in 7 Days
more
42 days in all of this
SkyNewsHD Live
arista
19-01-2025, 02:05 PM
Red Cross
on the way to collect the 3 Lady Hostages
SkyNewsHD Live
Livia
19-01-2025, 02:16 PM
I'm waiting to discover the fate of Kfir and Ariel Bibas, two young children taken hostage with their mother Shiri, on 7th October 2023. Kfir, the youngest, was 2 yesterday... if he's still alive.
i have zero confidence that the ceasefire will hold. I just hope they get the hostages back before it breaks down
arista
19-01-2025, 02:23 PM
They are saying the next is in 7 Days.
arista
19-01-2025, 02:47 PM
i have zero confidence that the ceasefire will hold. I just hope they get the hostages back before it breaks down
Yes,
Hamas is the problem.
arista
19-01-2025, 04:03 PM
The 3 Women are now on the Isreal side.
arista
19-01-2025, 04:18 PM
Israel Government
is now not predicted to stay together
As his Coalition can fall.
Before the 42 days, have ended
Crimson Dynamo
19-01-2025, 06:15 PM
The monsters surround Doron Steinbrecher like wolves. Terrorising her to the last
moment.
Evil.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ghqu7WyXkAA51Mo?format=jpg&name=small
I'm waiting to discover the fate of Kfir and Ariel Bibas, two young children taken hostage with their mother Shiri, on 7th October 2023. Kfir, the youngest, was 2 yesterday... if he's still alive.
Unfortunately I think it's quite unlikely he is still alive and that could end the ceasefire
Keeping a one year old alive as a hostage in a war zone seems very difficult
Livia
19-01-2025, 06:27 PM
Unfortunately I think it's quite unlikely he is still alive and that could end the ceasefire
Keeping a one year old alive as a hostage in a war zone seems very difficult
Taking a baby hostage seems difficult to understand.
arista
19-01-2025, 08:21 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/01/19/18/94270147-0-image-m-1_1737312918095.jpg
arista
19-01-2025, 08:22 PM
[Israel-Gaza ceasefire latest updates:
Brit hostage Emily Damari and two other women
reunited with their mothers in heartwarming
scenes in Israel as they are released by
Hamas after 471 days in captivity]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14301605/Israel-Gaza-ceasefire-live-hamas.html
arista
19-01-2025, 11:29 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-6edabc7a-455e-4d09-a00c-1a55faf87b7e.png
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-16d78649-7726-4e55-ad49-a98593b051d7.jpeg
arista
20-01-2025, 01:46 AM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-a737038b-48c0-4fe3-85f9-4306a330df6a.jpeg
arista
20-01-2025, 01:47 AM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-9f0a49d2-e576-4e6e-8afd-6c6709e6435e.jpeg
arista
20-01-2025, 01:47 AM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-55e8a0d6-6275-4ed0-9dcc-4d17d15ed6ff.jpeg
arista
20-01-2025, 02:21 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/db6e/live/1196fa30-d6b0-11ef-9fd6-0be88a764111.jpg.webp
arista
20-01-2025, 02:23 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/b805/live/d456a540-d6a9-11ef-94cb-5f844ceb9e30.jpg.webp
Livia
20-01-2025, 08:50 AM
The BBC is showing The Palestine Show again today. It's like 7th October never happened.
Jessica.
21-01-2025, 01:49 PM
Hopefully the ceasefire persists.
arista
25-01-2025, 02:54 PM
[The Four Female Israeli soldiers who spent 477 days
in Hamas captivity have been reunited
with their families following their
release earlier today.
Daniella Gilboa,
Naama Levy,
Karina Ariev, who are all 20,
and Liri Albag, 19,
were handed over to a team from
the International Committee
of the Red Cross on Saturday after Israel
and Palestinian militants carried out a
second hostage prisoner swap.
The Israeli Defence Forces confirmed
that the four freed women were now
with their loved ones,
sharing images of the
emotional encounter on X.]
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/01/25/09/94501767-14324101-image-a-57_1737797369860.jpg
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/01/25/09/94501761-14324101-image-a-51_1737797178003.jpg
arista
25-01-2025, 03:05 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/01/25/13/94504725-14324411-image-a-7_1737810379846.jpg
Israeli hostage Naama Levy, 20
reunited with her mother
arista
25-01-2025, 03:08 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/01/25/13/94504735-14324411-image-a-2_1737810323104.jpg
[Released Israeli hostage Daniella Gilboa,
a soldier who was seized from her army base
in southern Israel during the deadly
October 7, 2023, attack on Israel
by Hamas, is embraced by her parents
after being released, to an unknown location]
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14324411/Israeli-hostages-reunited-families-Hamas-kidnap-Israel.html
Livia
25-01-2025, 03:20 PM
Four Israelis released in exchange for two hundred Palestinians. Two hundred. Sounds fair.
Where are the rest if the hostages? How much longer must they wait?
arista
27-01-2025, 08:05 PM
8 Hostages due to be Released
are all dead.
Reported on BBCnewsHD
8 Hostages due to be Released
are all dead.
Reported on BBCnewsHD
that's sickening, it's obvious hamas have been negotiating in bad faith
Absolutely devastating for the families who'd finally cashed in on their hope, just as Hamas no doubt wanted.
Crimson Dynamo
27-01-2025, 09:14 PM
And still the left fawn over Hamas marches in the UK
Sickening
arista
27-01-2025, 09:53 PM
that's sickening, it's obvious hamas have been negotiating in bad faith
Sadly True
arista
30-01-2025, 09:21 AM
Today HAMAS released
another Female Soldier
Also 2 others & 5 Thai hostages
https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/01/2025-01-30T080753Z_1814511509_RC28KCAE8502_RTRMADP_3_ISRAE L-PALESTINIANS-GAZA-CEASEFIRE-1738224896.jpg?resize=770%2C513&quality=80
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/30/israeli-captives-released-in-gaza-as-part-of-ceasefire-deal
arista
30-01-2025, 01:16 PM
Israel has Delayed
there 100 or so prisoners
who were to be sent to Gaza.
Because HAMAS put the 7
into a Crowd so they got crushed
is the problem
before going to the Red Cross
arista
30-01-2025, 05:06 PM
Israel has now handed Hamas
the over 100 Prisoners back
BBCnewsHD
arista
31-01-2025, 02:49 AM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-da6fadf0-a1b6-4875-be36-3954e45f5fbb.png
Crimson Dynamo
01-02-2025, 06:58 PM
After 483 days in scum terrorist Hamas captivity, American citizen Keith Siegel shares a warm embrace with his family.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GiuS-W4XsAAx2xx?format=jpg&name=small
arista
01-02-2025, 07:11 PM
Yes Keith,
the Lucky American
among the three.
[Yarden Bibas, 34,
Ofer Kalderon, 53, and
Keith Siegel, 65,
were handed over to the Red Cross - the latest
hostages to be released as part
of a ceasefire deal struck last month.
Palestinian prisoners were taken in buses
to Gaza and the West Bank, many of them
coming from the nearby Ofer prison.
The tone of the exchange sat in stark
contrast to Thursday's chaotic handover,
during which surging crowds pressed
in on hostages, eliciting concern for
their safety and prompting Israel
to delay that day's release of
Palestinian prisoners.
Yarden Bibas, a hostage held in Gaza,
waves from a stage in Khan Younis
while flanked by two armed and
masked Hamas fighters.]
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce85enjjlzro
the haunted expression is heart breaking
Crimson Dynamo
01-02-2025, 07:51 PM
the haunted expression is heart breaking
that was also my reaction
arista
08-02-2025, 10:34 AM
3 New Hostages
were handed over by Hamas
to the Red Cross.
https://news.sky.com/story/gaza-hostage-release-israel-hamas-prisoners-palestinian-latest-sky-news-live-12978800
Livia
08-02-2025, 02:12 PM
The Palestinian prisoners look well fed and quite animated.
I wonder if Eli Shabari is aware that Hamas murdered his wife and two daughters on 7th October? Or maybe his captors have already taunted him with that news. The way the Israelis were paraded by Hamas is utterly sickening.
Oliver_W
09-02-2025, 01:54 PM
it's obvious hamas have been negotiating in bad faith
Surely not?!
arista
10-02-2025, 06:10 PM
Hamas: Hostage release Delayed
"Postponed"
From this next Saturday.
https://news.sky.com/story/hamas-delays-release-of-more-israeli-hostages-13306759
arista
11-02-2025, 02:42 AM
[President Donald Trump says the Gaza ceasefire
should be cancelled if all remaining Israeli hostages
are not returned by noon on Saturday - as he warned
Hamas that "all hell is going to break out".
The US president's intervention came hours
after Hamas has said it will delay the release
of more hostages and accused
Israel of violating their ceasefire deal.]
What will Hamas do?
https://news.sky.com/story/trump-issues-gaza-ceasefire-ultimatum-to-hamas-as-he-warns-all-hell-is-going-to-break-out-if-hostages-not-returned-13306938
Livia
11-02-2025, 12:10 PM
I think maybe the heroes of Hamas have run out of live Israeli hostages.
arista
11-02-2025, 12:10 PM
President Trump sitting at his
office table stated Hamas must hand over all hostages
this Saturday.
Or all Hell Will Break Out!
I can see Hamas ignoring President Trump
Cherie
11-02-2025, 12:14 PM
I think maybe the heroes of Hamas have run out of live Israeli hostages.
The state of the hostages released last week should have caused world wide outrage, somehow is didn't
i'm actually surprised the cease fire has held as long as it has. I actually have some sympathy for the palestinian people who have just gone back to their homes to try and start afresh and now they have had a false dawn too. It shows that hamas doesn't give a crap about their own people
user104658
11-02-2025, 01:54 PM
Trump has already made his intentions for Gaza pretty clear, surely?
arista
11-02-2025, 02:17 PM
Trump has already made his intentions for Gaza pretty clear, surely?
Yes Today
The King of Jordan
meets President Trump.
We can find out if he will house them?
arista
11-02-2025, 05:39 PM
[Israeli PM says Gaza ceasefire 'will be terminated' if
hostages are not returned by Hamas on Saturday]
https://news.sky.com/story/israeli-pm-says-gaza-ceasefire-will-be-terminated-if-hostages-are-not-returned-by-hamas-on-saturday-13307251
Hamas has a choice
Hostages or all-out war AGAIN.
arista
11-02-2025, 06:01 PM
The King is going to
save Two Thousand Children from Gaza.
He stated with Trump Live.
SkyNewsHD
I think maybe the heroes of Hamas have run out of live Israeli hostages.
The state of the hostages released last week should have caused world wide outrage, somehow is didn't
I tend to think most "outrage" now is mainly performative, so it's not shocking really. It's because it's not going to get the desired attention of the right people. We've become on average numb and apathetic towards the suffering of others... which is disconcerting...
Edit: It's like people want to wear other's suffering like a popular brand on a t-shirt... if it makes them more popular, then go for it... it's the new thing...
The state of the hostages released last week should have caused world wide outrage, somehow is didn't
And they would have been the more presentable ones
arista
11-02-2025, 10:17 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/02/11/18/95101927-0-image-a-9_1739297166680.jpg
Clock is ticking
arista
12-02-2025, 02:27 AM
President Trump
stated he did not think Hamas would help
He then said they believe they are tough.
We will will see how tough they are?
King Jordan sitting next to him.
arista
12-02-2025, 02:29 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/9281/live/f278e680-e8bc-11ef-bd1b-d536627785f2.jpg.webp
Crimson Dynamo
12-02-2025, 01:35 PM
Australian nurses let the mask slip on webcam, saying they deliberately kill
Israeli patients who come into the hospital
The health chief in New South Wales has since fired them.
How many more of these deranged people are working in hospitals worldwide?
:umm2:
https://x.com/benleo444/status/1889597489721856342
arista
13-02-2025, 12:37 PM
Hamas has now agreed,
to release the 3 Hostages on Saturday.
Ignoring Trump
who demands all hostages get released
on Saturday
they know they would get the blame for breaking the ceasefire, nothing noble in their action
Cherie
20-02-2025, 10:59 AM
Hamas has handed over the bodies of Israeli hostages for the first time as part of the Gaza ceasefire deal.
The armed group says the four bodies include those of Oded Lifschitz, Shiri Bibas, and her two young sons, who were aged nine months and four years when they were abducted.
Here's a timeline of how their return to Israel unfolded:
Crowds of Palestinians began gathering in a square in Khan Younis, in the south of Gaza, from around 08:30 local time
Four coffins were brought onto a stage that had been set up in the middle of the square. Hamas members, some of them armed, stood watch
Shortly after 09:00, a convoy of Red Cross vehicles arrived in Khan Younis. One aid worker was invited on stage to sign a series of documents, alongside a member of Hamas
White screens were put up around the convoy to shield the coffins from view - one by one, they were carried down from the stage, walked across the square and lifted into the vehicles
The convoy departed Khan Younis at 10:00 - less than an hour later, Israel confirmed the bodies had been transferred to its forces in Gaza. By 12:00, they had entered southern Israel
The bodies of the hostages are now being driven to to the Abu Kabir forensic institute in Jaffa for formal identification - many Israelis line the route, while others gather in Hostages Square in Tel Aviv
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A nation in mourning: Israelis line route in cold and heavy rain
published at 10:20
10:20
Sebastian Usher
Middle East analyst
The handover of the four bodies was again a choreographed event by Hamas - this time in the devastated landscape of the southern city of Khan Younis.
Hamas fighters and other armed factions stood in serried ranks as four coffins were handed over to the Red Cross, which had asked for the process to be done in a private and dignified manner.
When the caskets were given over to Israel, the military chief rabbi recited prayers over them. Israelis have been lining the route in the cold and heavy rain that will take the bodies to Tel Aviv. The whole country is in mourning.
Shiri Bibas and her two young children have long been the most potent symbol in Israel of the horror of 7 October 2023 - and the ordeal of the hostages who were taken into captivity in Gaza.
BBC
Cherie
20-02-2025, 11:08 AM
The BBC neglected to report the Palestinians cheered and played music while the coffins were paraded on stage, but then they had the 13 year old son of a Hamas fighter narrate a recent doumentary about Gaza so we expect the bias at this stage
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bbc-faces-questions-over-gaza-films-hamas-link/ar-AA1zqu9L?ocid=BingNewsSerp
At this point, i want the BBC shut down
arista
20-02-2025, 12:20 PM
The BBC neglected to report the Palestinians cheered and played music while the coffins were paraded on stage, but then they had the 13 year old son of a Hamas fighter narrate a recent doumentary about Gaza so we expect the bias at this stage
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/bbc-faces-questions-over-gaza-films-hamas-link/ar-AA1zqu9L?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Yes Lisa Nandy MP
is going to see the BBC Boss
about this
arista
20-02-2025, 12:21 PM
4 Dead Bodies in Coffins
handed over to Israel today.
[Hamas has handed over the bodies
of Israeli hostages for the first time
as part of the Gaza ceasefire deal
The armed group says the bodies
include those of a mother, Shiri Bibas, and
her two young sons,
who were aged nine months and four years
when they were abducted]
BBC feed
Livia
20-02-2025, 12:29 PM
Yes Lisa Nandy MP
is going to see the BBC Boss
about this
Lisa Nandy. I bet the BBC is quaking in its boots. The BBC is untouchable and we're footing the bill.
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