Israel declares 'state of war' : Hamas fire '5,000' rockets

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Ninastar]

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[arista]

Yes
Hamas do not care.

[Oliver_W]

Hamas care less about their citizens than Israel do.

[Nicky91]

Hamas care less about their citizens than Israel do.

don't know that was even possible :joker:

[Ninastar]

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[Cherie]

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Great point

[The Slim Reaper]

Tibb till defending/ignoring 70 years of massacres and oppression, to play make believe with the phrase "from the river to the sea Palestine will be free."

This is everyone's new favourite thought leader, writing in the Jewish Chronicle a couple of days ago.

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Freedom for Palestine = bad

Those poor Nazis had tough jobs = What an intellectual colossus.


I posted on here years ago about the close relationship between zionism/Israel and the far right, but let's not acknowledge reality and instead fall in love and accept this nonsense at face value because he doesn't have a regional accent.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Imagine not posting in here for 3 days, but then have to because I' have. Bless you, LT. You can get away with that in SD, just don't pee off any of the BB crowd - that's how you get banned :hehe:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Imagine not posting in here for 3 days, but then have to because I' have. Bless you, LT. You can get away with that in SD, just don't pee off any of the BB crowd - that's how you get banned :hehe:

i wasnt banned son

great to see you back after another month away..

[user104658]

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LOL that poor lady is crying because she's mortified about her ruddy-faced hubby kicking off! Give him a year, he'll be cuddled up with a half bottle of scotch reposting Tommy Robinson tweets.

[user104658]

i wasnt banned son

great to see you back after another month away..

You was on a 2 day ban a couple of weeks back, I distinctly remember seeing the name on "recent bans" and thinking "lol LT got banned" so...

[Crimson Dynamo]

You was on a 2 day ban a couple of weeks back, I distinctly remember seeing the name on "recent bans" and thinking "lol LT got banned" so...

im always here

i dont hide

as i said, welcome back

[The Slim Reaper]

i wasnt banned son

great to see you back after another month away..

It's good to have a TIBB manager who always keeps track of my timekeeping :laugh: Good to see you too sweetheart.

You was on a 2 day ban a couple of weeks back, I distinctly remember seeing the name on "recent bans" and thinking "lol LT got banned" so...


That's what i thought.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's good to have a TIBB manager who always keeps track of my timekeeping :laugh: Good to see you too sweetheart.




That's what i thought.

actually slim, all sh1t aside

i am pleased you are back tbh

:love:

we need all sides

[user104658]

im always here

i dont hide



:joker: come on man, ffs.

[Crimson Dynamo]

sb aside

[The Slim Reaper]

actually slim, all sh1t aside

i am pleased you are back tbh

:love:

we need all sides

You flew too close to the sun when you tried to branch out to Ben who the forum likes. You have to stick to the other forum pariahs

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FA4UmDBVEAc-nKD.jpg

Glad you're doing well, compadre.

[arista]

This Paper also posted
on the Sunak thread.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/11346/production/_131707407_guardian-nc.png.webp

Showing newly born babies in Gaza,
all together, staying in one warm bed area.
As power is going, alot.

[Nicky91]

are there for real Hamas command posts in hospitals, schools, do we have actual proof of such

or is this another silly excuse of Netanyahu to justify his attacks on hospitals, schools?


and confidence in Benny by the israeli public is already at freezing point anyway



still even if there are command posts of Hamas in hospitals and schools, don't think bombing them is the right way to go, because bombing always causes a lot of collateral damage as well, those hamas forces (if it is true) should've been dealt with via ground commando's, snipers too maybe

[arista]

No Nicky
they are under the Hospitals
in Tunnels

[user104658]

No Nicky
they are under the Hospitals
in Tunnels

Yes and to get into the tunnel you of course have to get that pesky hospital on top out of the way. The logic is entirely sound!

[user104658]

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Oh come on everything about the chap on the right screams Villain... someone should be signing him up for the next Bond film. Twisting and weasling away. And I'm obviously no Pier fan.

Also the irony of that final comment after the EDL beer-swillers were out in force at the weekend.

[Liam-]

Isn’t that fella the one that wrote a column recently about how the Nazi soldiers weren’t that bad and had very hard jobs so shouldn’t be looked at as the bad guys?

[user104658]

Isn’t that fella the one that wrote a column recently about how the Nazi soldiers weren’t that bad and had very hard jobs so shouldn’t be looked at as the bad guys?

I've seen him around but hadn't looked into him much, I just thought he looked a bit fascism-coded, but a quick google has revealed that one of the opinions he's most infamous for is, in a nutshell;

"There's nothing inherently wrong with being a Nazi it's just that the naughty Germans were doing it wrong in the first half of the 20th century so now it unfairly gets a bad rap".

So... ... :umm2:... turns out first impressions can be quite accurate I guess...

[arista]

This was 6:48AM Early today.

https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1723963487616188553

[Oliver_W]

I've seen him around but hadn't looked into him much, I just thought he looked a bit fascism-coded, but a quick google has revealed that one of the opinions he's most infamous for is, in a nutshell;

"There's nothing inherently wrong with being a Nazi it's just that the naughty Germans were doing it wrong in the first half of the 20th century so now it unfairly gets a bad rap".


Jeez, that's more stupid than when people say the same thing about Communism.

But I never thought I'd hear a straight-face "it ain't so bad" about Nazism.

[Oliver_W]

This was 6:48AM Early today.

https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1723963487616188553

The host should have a bit of grace and decorum tbh, whatever they think of their guests.

[bots]

The host should have a bit of grace and decorum tbh, whatever they think of their guests.

Like Piers? :laugh:

[Nicky91]

Yes and to get into the tunnel you of course have to get that pesky hospital on top out of the way. The logic is entirely sound!

yup, in order to exterminate Hamas entirely one way or another at whatever cost


but they did deliver fuel for the hospitals their generators, well so Benny said but honestly that video evidence of them ''delivering'' fuel to the hospital is kinda inconclusive as it doesn't really show them going into the hospital

[The Slim Reaper]

Isn’t that fella the one that wrote a column recently about how the Nazi soldiers weren’t that bad and had very hard jobs so shouldn’t be looked at as the bad guys?

Tibb till defending/ignoring 70 years of massacres and oppression, to play make believe with the phrase "from the river to the sea Palestine will be free."

This is everyone's new favourite thought leader, writing in the Jewish Chronicle a couple of days ago.

1722921035148693813

Freedom for Palestine = bad

Those poor Nazis had tough jobs = What an intellectual colossus.


I posted on here years ago about the close relationship between zionism/Israel and the far right, but let's not acknowledge reality and instead fall in love and accept this nonsense at face value because he doesn't have a regional accent.

.

[Liam-]

Thought so :joker:

The right really will cling onto anybody in the their mission to pretend to care about Jews

[arista]

The host should have a bit of grace and decorum tbh, whatever they think of their guests.

Yes Ed Balls Presenter pushing his Podcast

Bollocks to Ed Balls

[Livia]

The far Left pretending it's not they who are the problem when it comes to anti-Semitism. It would be funny if it wasn't insulting.

[bots]

We should clarify the situation a bit. Hamas have basically taken their own people hostage and are using them as human shields. Would any country just say, ok, we will just leave them to it. They can come back and slaughter our people, but thats just something we have to accept

Of course they wouldn't. Every country in the world would want to take out the terrorists. It's very sad if there are civilian casualties but the aim will always be to kill the terrorists

[Nicky91]

We should clarify the situation a bit. Hamas have basically taken their own people hostage and are using them as human shields. Would any country just say, ok, we will just leave them to it. They can come back and slaughter our people, but thats just something we have to accept

Of course they wouldn't. Every country in the world would want to take out the terrorists. It's very sad if there are civilian casualties but the aim will always be to kill the terrorists

defending genocide ain't a good look though


commando ground troops could be more effective in areas where they are many civilians, to prevent civilian casualties but still taking out the hamas terrorists


Netanyahu really made the silliest excuse ever now

[Oliver_W]

We should clarify the situation a bit. Hamas have basically taken their own people hostage and are using them as human shields. Would any country just say, ok, we will just leave them to it. They can come back and slaughter our people, but thats just something we have to accept
Yes but we need a two state solution!!!

[user104658]

Of course they wouldn't. Every country in the world would want to take out the terrorists. It's very sad if there are civilian casualties but the aim will always be to kill the terrorists

Yes every country would want to but to say it's the aim simply can't be true, unless the decision makers have practically zero knowledge of the mechanisms of terrorism and recent history. They know for an almost concrete fact that indiscriminate wide-scale bombing campaigns with large numbers of civilian casualties increase terrorist recruitment in the short terms and thus increase terrorist activity in the longer term. It is, put quite simple, pretty much the WORST plan if the aim is reducing terrorism.

And like I said there's no way they don't know that, so the only reasonable explanation is that it isn't the reason/aim. The aim is clearly to annex Gaza entirely (or to make it effectively uninhabitable, which is more or less the same thing).

Like I've said before I don't think the aim is to "kill the Muslims" per se. I don't think they particularly care if the population is dead or simply goes elsewhere. They just want them removed.

[The Slim Reaper]

We should clarify the situation a bit. Hamas have basically taken their own people hostage and are using them as human shields. Would any country just say, ok, we will just leave them to it. They can come back and slaughter our people, but thats just something we have to accept

Of course they wouldn't. Every country in the world would want to take out the terrorists. It's very sad if there are civilian casualties but the aim will always be to kill the terrorists

This is 100% what is happening there because Netanyahu the hospital bombing maniac, told us so. It's not like declaring it is just to relax the levels of violence permitted in that area.

Oh, and Iraq has WMD's.

[user104658]

This is 100% what is happening there because Netanyahu, the hospital bombing maniac told us so. It's not like declaring it is just to relax the levels of violence permitted in that area.

Oh, and Iraq has WMD's.

Indeed - I posted a South Park clip a few pages back, proper OG South Park, Stan's uncle taking him hunting and his "it's coming right for us!" shout that allows him to legally shoot any animal.

It's literally all I can hear whenever someone says "There was Hamas in the building".

There was Hamas in the bus,
There was Hamas in the ambulances,
There was a Hamas tunnel network right under the playschool!

We literally HAD to bomb them.

[The Slim Reaper]

Indeed - I posted a South Park clip a few pages back, proper OG South Park, Stan's uncle taking him hunting and his "it's coming right for us!" shout that allows him to legally shoot any animal.

It's literally all I can hear whenever someone says "There was Hamas in the building".

There was Hamas in the bus,
There was Hamas in the ambulances,
There was a Hamas tunnel network right under the playschool!

We literally HAD to bomb them.

Not sure if you've ever seen Brass Eye, but it reminds me of the paedophile episode, where a paedophile disguises himself as a whole school.

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[bots]

there is hard evidence of hamas using their own people as human shields so i don't honestly know what the pair of you are babbling on about

[The Slim Reaper]

There was hard evidence of WMD's too.


Source: trust me, bro.

[Stu]

I love this fever dream that one of the most robust, well backed, intelligence based militaries in the world simply don't have the tactical nous to go in and take out strategic targets of a ramshackle, guerilla operation nowhere on their level without blowing thousands of kids heads off.

I mean based on the playbook so far I wouldn't go paintballing with the IDF.

[user104658]

there is hard evidence of hamas using their own people as human shields so i don't honestly know what the pair of you are babbling on about

Yes there is, and I'm not saying that Hamas don't/wouldn't use their people as human shields... I'm saying that the fact that they are known for doing this makes it very easy/convenient to be able to justify ANY and ALL strikes. Hit a civilian convoy? There was Hamas in it. Bomb a block of flats and kill 50 children? One of the flats had Hamas in it.

It's a catch-all excuse that makes a mockery of the international laws designed to protect against targetting civilian targets with "a loophole". Like yeah sure have laws saying that targetting civilians is a war crime. But all you have to do to get around that is say you had intel that there was "baddies in there too" and all of a sudden, it's a legitimate target? :idc:

And even if they are - since when did we start saying "Ahh well, they were being used as a human shield" to morally justify the killing of innocent people? Imagine if the police turned up to an armed situation with a gunman holding a kid in front of them and just riddled the pair of them full of bullet holes then swaggered off saying "Ahh well, poor kid was a human shield, but we had to kill that crim!"

[user104658]

I love this fever dream that one of the most robust, well backed, intelligence based militaries in the world simply don't have the tactical nous to go in and take out strategic targets of a ramshackle, guerilla operation nowhere on their level without blowing thousands of kids heads off.

I mean based on the playbook so far I wouldn't go paintballing with the IDF.

The most ludicrous claim I've seen yet was on TikTok where someone was claiming that no one should support Palestine because once Hamas "conquers Israel" they'd be coming for us in the West next(!). They said it with a straight face!! The "Army of Hamas" would invade the UK and US. :umm2:.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes there is, and I'm not saying that Hamas don't/wouldn't use their people as human shields... I'm saying that the fact that they are known for doing this makes it very easy/convenient to be able to justify ANY and ALL strikes. Hit a civilian convoy? There was Hamas in it. Bomb a block of flats and kill 50 children? One of the flats had Hamas in it.

It's a catch-all excuse that makes a mockery of the international laws designed to protect against targetting civilian targets with "a loophole". Like yeah sure have laws saying that targetting civilians is a war crime. But all you have to do to get around that is say you had intel that there was "baddies in there too" and all of a sudden, it's a legitimate target? :idc:

And even if they are - since when did we start saying "Ahh well, they were being used as a human shield" to morally justify the killing of innocent people? Imagine if the police turned up to an armed situation with a gunman holding a kid in front of them and just riddled the pair of them full of bullet holes then swaggered off saying "Ahh well, poor kid was a human shield, but we had to kill that crim!"

What are we classing as hard evidence?

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Like you, I'm not saying they 100% haven't or wouldn't, I just haven't seen anything beyond propaganda suggesting or showing it.

Everything else, I 100% agree with.

[arista]

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[user104658]

What are we classing as hard evidence?

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Like you, I'm not saying they 100% haven't or wouldn't, I just haven't seen anything beyond propaganda suggesting or showing it.

Everything else, I 100% agree with.

To be fair I haven't seen any verified evidence - I am inclined to believe that it happens at times. Just not in anywhere near even half the cases where it's claimed as justification. It's a very convenient get-out-of-jail-free card when it comes to mindless collateral damage.

[UserSince2005]

Isreal are bossing this war haha

[Oliver_W]

Isreal are bossing this war haha

Of course they are, they could obliterate Palestine if they wanted.

[Nicky91]

Isreal are bossing this war haha

making the wrong choices, you mean


you cannot bomb a hospital, IDF should've worked more closer with the US, with the latter sending navy seals commando's or something, alongside mossad commandos for a much cleaner approach in taking out the Hamas terrorists below the hospital

[bots]

if they are taking out terrorists and their tunnels, they are obviously making the right choices

[Liam-]

There is no justification to just bombing hospitals or residential buildings and killing however many innocent civilians they want to

[Oliver_W]

There is no justification to just bombing hospitals or residential buildings and killing however many innocent civilians they want to

True.

But there's also no justification to using such buildings as a base for terrorist actions, and using innocent people as human shields.

(two wrongs don't make a right though, obviously)

[Nicky91]

True.

But there's also no justification to using such buildings as a base for terrorist actions, and using innocent people as human shields.

(two wrongs don't make a right though, obviously)

yeah well Hamas know that Netanyahu is literally so stupid he would still bomb them no matter what


so Netanyahu does exactly what Hamas wants, like the good lapdog that he is


that is why he really should've approached the US for more help, from navy seals, combined with the superstealth qualities of their own mossad

[Oliver_W]

yeah well Hamas know that Netanyahu is literally so stupid he would still bomb them no matter what


so Netanyahu does exactly what Hamas wants, like the good lapdog that he is


And he still cares more about them than Hamas.

[Nicky91]

And he still cares more about them than Hamas.

this conflict has been going on longer than Hamas exists



75 years of hatred from Israel towards Palestine



and not just towards Palestine but to more asian countries, which is why that football federation expelled them and they came on hands and knees to the UEFA


i know my history facts/stats about Israel

[joeysteele]

I'm left wrestling with the correct fact that I do believe that the evil Hamas do set out to use Palestinian civilians as shields.
They are evil to purposely put those civilians lives at great risk.

I wrestle too however that those Palestinian civilians lives in great risk are then while put in danger by Hamas, those lives are then taken by Isrseli action.

Yes it's war, one that hasn't just been going on for just over 4 weeks now but for a very long time.

I don't think it right that Israeli lives are taken but then I don't think it acceptable either that Palestinian civilian lives are wiped out too.

I am dismayed at our governnent and the opposition plus the USA and EU Nations who are not calling for more and actively doing more to get this killing halted.
Both from what happened on October 7th by Hamas and now since then by the Israeli government.

If most of the World isn't on the side of protecting civilian lives everywhere, then we really are in a very dark and dangerous place.
Allowing it to begin and go on and on.and ON.

[Nicky91]

yes what Hamas do is very evil too

am not denying that


just think IDF needed to use their common sense a lot more, also having in mind that the US Navy Seals special forces are one of the world's best in taking out terrorists, whom also eliminated Bin Laden for example

[user104658]

if they are taking out terrorists and their tunnels, they are obviously making the right choices

There's nothing obvious about it. Again to use the same allegory I've used before - no one would see a school shooting in place, watch the police set fire to the school killing everyone inside, and then claim they "obviously" made the right choice because they got the shooter.

[Oliver_W]

There's nothing obvious about it. Again to use the same allegory I've used before - no one would see a school shooting in place, watch the police set fire to the school killing everyone inside, and then claim they "obviously" made the right choice because they got the shooter.

Not only that, but bombing schools and hospitals only encourages Hamas to keep using them as bases, as Israel attacks always garners sympathy for their side.

[arista]

Another Large
Pro Palestine Protest Outside Westminster.

Just Live on Ch5HDNews Live
the reporter said it was meant to be
Small protest


SNP have brought a vote
on Ceasefire

Many Labour are backing it.

[arista]

SkyNewsHD
outside at Westminster
thinks it is around 500 protestors

[arista]

Many are now Climbing on the Security Barriers
at Westminster

Live on GBnewsHD

[Oliver_W]

Many are now Climbing on the Security Barriers
at Westminster

Live on GBnewsHD

How does anyone get that invested in one of many foreign wars?

I think there should be ceasefires all over the place, but I'm not gonna go to that London because of it. (and then go climbing up things)

[arista]

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1724897355827421657

[arista]

https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1724911650375901303


Last Night

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1724897355827421657

Owen spilling so many truths here



double standards much from the west



if you sanction Russia, then also hand out those sanctions to Israel

[arista]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2023/11/16/4357929737641833254/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_4357929737641833254.jpg


Still no law enforced
to stop these

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/16/09/77871143-12756085-image-a-70_1700128198564.jpg

Yesterday

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/16/09/77870951-12756085-image-a-63_1700127991018.jpg




https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/16/10/77872903-12756085-The_pro_Palestine_march_on_Parliament_was_advertis ed_as_long_ago-a-211_1700131897486.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/16/11/77875653-0-image-m-12_1700135934093.jpg

[user104658]

There does seem to be a growing inclination for people to insist "ARREST THEM!!" when people are doing things they don't like ... ... ... but there is no actual law against. I'm not sure people understand how arrests work, and that it's not just done on a whim. The country would go bankrupt over night with all the wrongful arrest claims if they started carrying out all of the arrests people insist they should.

[Oliver_W]

There does seem to be a growing inclination for people to insist "ARREST THEM!!" when people are doing things they don't like ... ... ... but there is no actual law against. I'm not sure people understand how arrests work, and that it's not just done on a whim. The country would go bankrupt over night with all the wrongful arrest claims if they started carrying out all of the arrests people insist they should.

Yeah. I don't like people climbing on such monuments, but as long as they don't damage or deface them, I don't see it as something to get angry about.

I wouldn't object to law enforcement officers (safely) removing the protesters, but it's not something I actively want, if that makes sense.

[The Slim Reaper]

The most obvious part of all this, is that the people screaming for arrests now, were the very same people pretending that cancel culture was only part of the "other side", because they were all about free speech.

It was a myth then, and it's proven to be a myth now. Unfortunately, they see zero hypocrisy in all of this.

[Stu]

Cancel culture's always largely just sought to protect conservative Western ideals and values. A lot of engaged proponents of it who take it at face value have no problem at all seeing a bunch of gay, brown, foreign stuff silenced or brushed under the carpet. It's essentially social nausea at acceleration of change.

[arista]

Sad news for a Israeli Family

[IDF claims body of hostage recovered from building
near al Shifa hospital - as all telecoms go down]

https://news.sky.com/story/israel-gaza-latest-hamas-al-shifa-hospital-sky-news-blog-live-updates-12978800

[arista]

BBC was taken into Gaza.

But so was all the other Press

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7386/production/_131747592_9740b40d-5cf2-4555-9fe9-222659151d6a.jpg.webp

[arista]

Now a 2nd, Hostage,
has sadly been found dead
near the hospital in Gaza.

https://cdnph.upi.com/svc/sv/i/8571700196735/2023/1/17002154443666/Body-of-second-Israeli-hostage-found-near-main-Gaza-hospital.jpg


[Nov. 16 (UPI) -- The body of a second female
Israeli hostage abducted by Hamas during its
Oct. 7 attack on Israel has been found near
to Gaza's besieged Al-Shifa Hospital.

The body of Israel Defense Forces soldier,
Corporal Noa Marciano, was recovered by troops
from a building near the strip's largest hospital
in Gaza City and returned to Israel on Thursday,
the Israeli military said in a news release.]

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2023/11/17/Hamas-hostage-found-dead-near-Gaza-hospital/8571700196735/


Evil Hamas took her

[bots]

but hamas have been nowhere near the hospital, or thats what the media would have us believe

[arista]

but hamas have been nowhere near the hospital, or thats what the media would have us believe


Of course, they left
as IDF Machine-gun Troops went in

[Oliver_W]

but hamas have been nowhere near the hospital, or thats what the media would have us believe

Haven't you heard of the WMDs??!! Of course Hamas leaves the hospitals alone.

[arista]

Welsh Labour Jo Stevens
Office was covered in Red Paint
as she refused to back Cease Fire Vote.

Was on ITV1HDnews.

[The Slim Reaper]

but hamas have been nowhere near the hospital, or thats what the media would have us believe

All the media is peddling the heavily edited IDF videos of Hamas hiding under hospitals, and practically zero media is saying what you're suggesting.

[arista]

[The Israeli army claims it has found the entrance to
a Hamas tunnel shaft in its
latest video posted on Friday.
It's filmed in the eastern edge of the hospital - as the
side of the surgery building is seen
in the background of the video.
The hole highlighted in the footage appears
to be a few metres deep, littered with and
surrounded by concrete, wood, rubble and sand.
Twisted metal can be seen around the opening
of the hole. In part of the footage,
a bulldozer can be seen in the background.

The lower part of the alleged tunnel appears
to have a smooth surface, but it offers only
a limited view, so it is difficult to be certain
what purpose it might serve.

From the position and length of the shadow,
Sky News estimates the footage above
was taken between 12pm and 2pm local time
on Thursday.
But beyond that, it is not possible to gauge how
deep it goes.
The army has not released further footage
at al Shifa relating to alleged tunnels.]


https://news.sky.com/story/what-the-latest-idf-footage-from-al-shifa-hospital-tells-us-about-hamas-alleged-presence-there-13010440

[Nicky91]

[The Israeli army claims it has found the entrance to
a Hamas tunnel shaft in its
latest video posted on Friday.
It's filmed in the eastern edge of the hospital - as the
side of the surgery building is seen
in the background of the video.
The hole highlighted in the footage appears
to be a few metres deep, littered with and
surrounded by concrete, wood, rubble and sand.
Twisted metal can be seen around the opening
of the hole. In part of the footage,
a bulldozer can be seen in the background.

The lower part of the alleged tunnel appears
to have a smooth surface, but it offers only
a limited view, so it is difficult to be certain
what purpose it might serve.

From the position and length of the shadow,
Sky News estimates the footage above
was taken between 12pm and 2pm local time
on Thursday.
But beyond that, it is not possible to gauge how
deep it goes.
The army has not released further footage
at al Shifa relating to alleged tunnels.]


https://news.sky.com/story/what-the-latest-idf-footage-from-al-shifa-hospital-tells-us-about-hamas-alleged-presence-there-13010440

as if we trust anything what the corrupt IDF have to say

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

LT SB wants his weather ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

LT SB wants his weather ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

That's OK I'll make do with the racist propaganda :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Mystic Mock]

Of course they are, they could obliterate Palestine if they wanted.

That's true tbf.

Hopefully they don't though, because while I don't like Hamas and their borderline Nazi beliefs that they're spreading (not just to the Palestinians but to the rest of the world as well) I don't like the fact that Israel are blitzing innocent people en masse.

I seriously hope that some kind of compromise can be reached between both countries, but I don't think it'll be in our lifetime.

[Mystic Mock]

I'm left wrestling with the correct fact that I do believe that the evil Hamas do set out to use Palestinian civilians as shields.
They are evil to purposely put those civilians lives at great risk.

I wrestle too however that those Palestinian civilians lives in great risk are then while put in danger by Hamas, those lives are then taken by Isrseli action.

Yes it's war, one that hasn't just been going on for just over 4 weeks now but for a very long time.

I don't think it right that Israeli lives are taken but then I don't think it acceptable either that Palestinian civilian lives are wiped out too.

I am dismayed at our governnent and the opposition plus the USA and EU Nations who are not calling for more and actively doing more to get this killing halted.
Both from what happened on October 7th by Hamas and now since then by the Israeli government.

If most of the World isn't on the side of protecting civilian lives everywhere, then we really are in a very dark and dangerous place.
Allowing it to begin and go on and on.and ON.

I 100% agree Joey.

I think what's also really disturbing to me throughout all of this is how some people are treating it like it's a Football match or a Big Brother eviction on Social Media.

Instead of who do you want to win the match or be evicted, instead it's "which group do you want to die?" And what's even more sick about it is how these same people go on self-righteous tirades, and this sort of behaviour happens on both sides of this fight and I'm personally ****ing sick of it.

[Mystic Mock]

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1724897355827421657

One difference that Owen Jones fails to mention (probably because it kills his argument) is that Ukraine never started attacking innocent Russians during what was meant to be a ceasefire, Russia started that conflict on every single level that you can think of.

Mind you that doesn't excuse Israel's own atrocities during this conflict, but Owen Jones is being slightly disingenuous imo.

[Mystic Mock]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2023/11/16/4357929737641833254/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_4357929737641833254.jpg


Still no law enforced
to stop these

Because protesting for Palestine is perfectly legal.

[Mystic Mock]

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Well hopefully send the guys to the Israeli Government might be a suitable punishment for such disgusting treatment towards a Puppy.

[Oliver_W]

Owen Jones is being slightly disingenuous imo.
Surely not??!!

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2023/11/16/4357929737641833254/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_4357929737641833254.jpg


Still no law enforced
to stop these
If they're just standing there, why should they be stopped?

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Oliver_W]

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"But what are they SUPPOSED to do?!"

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[The Slim Reaper]

One difference that Owen Jones fails to mention (probably because it kills his argument) is that Ukraine never started attacking innocent Russians during what was meant to be a ceasefire, Russia started that conflict on every single level that you can think of.

Mind you that doesn't excuse Israel's own atrocities during this conflict, but Owen Jones is being slightly disingenuous imo.

Let's accept that you are 100% correct for a second. How or why do you think the Palestinians have gone from being the majority land owners by a massive margin in 1948, to now only being reduced to walled in open air prison camps?

Do you think Palestinians voluntarily moved out of their homes so that Israelis could move in?

Do you realise that a Jewish person who has been born anywhere in the world (other than Israel), will be given the house of a Palestinian family that has held that house for generations? Settlers and the IDF will evict families at gun point to make them homeless.

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Do you think that no attacks happened prior to Oct 7th?

Would you accept the police turning up at your house and kicking you out, so a Roman wo has never even been to England before, can just move in completely free of charge? Would you enjoy sitting on your lawn watching them move in?

Attacks on Palestinians have been on-going for generations, and the world didn't start on October 7th.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Oliver_W]

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Technically it was all British territory until 1948.

And either way, it doesn't excuse Palestine targeting those they did.

[The Slim Reaper]

Technically it was all British territory until 1948.

And either way, it doesn't excuse Palestine targeting those they did.

So take it from 1948 then. Do you think Palestinians have put themselves in concentration camps and given up their homes to Dave in Brooklyn who's never even spoken to anyone from Israel before getting a free Palestinian house there? You're not that stupid, Oliver.

No it doesn't excuse it, but it has been a repeated pattern happening the other way for a long, long time. Children are regularly taken off the streets and put in Israeli prisons to be tortured, and yet the world (minus the global south) has been excusing all of this Israeli oppression for decades. You won't even acknowledge that reality.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

Good News

[Thirty-one premature Palestinian babies
have been evacuated from Gaza City's
al-Shifa hospital,
which the World Health Organization (WHO) has
described as a "death zone".
The babies have been taken to an Emirati hospital
in the southern city of Rafah,
close to the Egyptian border.]

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_TwhvFXcAANpmv?format=jpg&name=900x900

[The Slim Reaper]

Perfectly normal relationship between countries.

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[Crimson Dynamo]

:facepalm:

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[Cherie]

Makes a change from the Ukraine flag I suppose

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Mystic Mock]

Surely not??!!


If they're just standing there, why should they be stopped?

I know, expecting anyone in the public eye to not be completely blinkered in this particular conflict was always asking for a miracle.:joker:

And I agree with you about the protesters, I don't like how the UK (civilians included) are becoming a-okay with stopping legal protests, it's like we're edging closer and closer to becoming China with the growing popularity of such a disturbing opinion.

[user104658]

:facepalm:

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:joker:

[Mystic Mock]

Let's accept that you are 100% correct for a second. How or why do you think the Palestinians have gone from being the majority land owners by a massive margin in 1948, to now only being reduced to walled in open air prison camps?

Do you think Palestinians voluntarily moved out of their homes so that Israelis could move in?

Do you realise that a Jewish person who has been born anywhere in the world (other than Israel), will be given the house of a Palestinian family that has held that house for generations? Settlers and the IDF will evict families at gun point to make them homeless.

7V-zSC-fHBY

https://imgsrv2.voi.id/zVMWsjr_uDG2xMg23gkQG1NLsKVFR-x9WCi3XNPgCHc/auto/1200/675/sm/1/bG9jYWw6Ly8vcHVibGlzaGVycy8yMTMzMS8yMDIwMTEyOTE4NT YtbWFpbi5jcm9wcGVkXzE2MDY2NTEwNzMuanBn.jpg

Do you think that no attacks happened prior to Oct 7th?

Would you accept the police turning up at your house and kicking you out, so a Roman wo has never even been to England before, can just move in completely free of charge? Would you enjoy sitting on your lawn watching them move in?

Attacks on Palestinians have been on-going for generations, and the world didn't start on October 7th.

I've already said on this thread that Israel have done a lot wrong during this conflict (which like you've pointed out has been going on for a long time) but for Owen Jones to compare Ukraine (who didn't really do anything to Russia until Russia started blitzing them) to Palestine who have a Government that supports it's soldiers (or whatever you want to call them) attacking and raping innocent civilians during a borderline ceasefire period, and then when the nation (obviously Israel) decides to retaliate (because let's face it Netanyahu didn't need an excuse) Hamas doesn't even bother to protect their own civilians and let at least the women and children hide down in the tunnels.

I understand that this conflict has been going on for around 7 decades, and Israel have definitely done horrible things to Palestinians over those years, I just personally don't agree with Owen Jones comparing it with the Ukraine who have not instigated really much of that particular conflict with Russia at any point during it's admittedly short history.

[Mystic Mock]

So take it from 1948 then. Do you think Palestinians have put themselves in concentration camps and given up their homes to Dave in Brooklyn who's never even spoken to anyone from Israel before getting a free Palestinian house there? You're not that stupid, Oliver.

No it doesn't excuse it, but it has been a repeated pattern happening the other way for a long, long time. Children are regularly taken off the streets and put in Israeli prisons to be tortured, and yet the world (minus the global south) has been excusing all of this Israeli oppression for decades. You won't even acknowledge that reality.

Personally I agree with you that Israel definitely have a lot of issues to put it mildly, especially if we're talking currently because Netanyahu is someone that appears to want this conflict with Palestine, and my own conspiracy theory is that I believe he wanted Hamas to attack Israel on October 7th so that he could justify attacking Gaza.

Hence the low security on the day in question that Hamas attacked.

[Mystic Mock]

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Isn't Tommy Robinson an EDL member?

So he is also selling his own propaganda against the "bad Muslims" I'm going to guess?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Isn't Tommy Robinson an EDL member?

So he is also selling his own propaganda against the "bad Muslims" I'm going to guess?

"English Defence League leader and founder Tommy Robinson has left the group, saying he has concerns over the "dangers of far-right extremism"."

8 October 2013


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24442953

[Oliver_W]

"English Defence League leader and founder Tommy Robinson has left the group, saying he has concerns over the "dangers of far-right extremism"."

8 October 2013


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-24442953

Has he shown far right extremist tendencies or sympathies since then.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Has he shown far right extremist tendencies or sympathies since then.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relevance_(law))

[user104658]

Has he shown far right extremist tendencies or sympathies since then.

He's EDL-lite like most footie hooligans. Or at least, he pretends to be these days because he's got a more mainstream-ish audience. He's still basically the darling of the skinhead football yobs though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

He's EDL-lite like most footie hooligans. Or at least, he pretends to be these days because he's got a more mainstream-ish audience. He's still basically the darling of the skinhead football yobs though.

:joker:

[Alf]

:joker:It's so fine to stero-type when it's a straight White male.

I agree that it's fine and would fight for their right to stereotype anyone they liked. But these are the same people that would show their facism against you and demand you to be shut down if you dared to stereotype a person that wasn't a straight White male.

[Crimson Dynamo]

CCTV footage showing bloodied victims of Hamas' October 7 attacks being
hauled into al-Shifa hospital hours after troops allegedly discovered a 55-
metre-long tunnel under the complex



https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/19/19/77994857-12768215-image-a-13_1700423688380.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12768215/Hamas-hostages-CCTV-al-Shifa-hospital-IDF.html#comments

[The Slim Reaper]

Isn't Tommy Robinson an EDL member?

So he is also selling his own propaganda against the "bad Muslims" I'm going to guess?

From the times of Israel

Why are US ‘pro-Israel’ groups boosting a far-right, anti-Muslim UK extremist?

https://www.timesofisrael.com/why-are-us-pro-israel-groups-boosting-a-far-right-anti-muslim-uk-extremist/

He gets nice funding from Israeli propaganda groups.

[The Slim Reaper]

It's so fine to stero-type when it's a straight White male.

I agree that it's fine and would fight for their right to stereotype anyone they liked. But these are the same people that would show their facism against you and demand you to be shut down if you dared to stereotype a person that wasn't a straight White male.

What do you think fascism is, brother?

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Alf]

What do you think fascism is, brother?A bundle of sticks

[The Slim Reaper]

CCTV footage showing bloodied victims of Hamas' October 7 attacks being
hauled into al-Shifa hospital hours after troops allegedly discovered a 55-
metre-long tunnel under the complex



https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/19/19/77994857-12768215-image-a-13_1700423688380.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12768215/Hamas-hostages-CCTV-al-Shifa-hospital-IDF.html#comments

Even the US is now backing away from claiming this is a hamas control post. This is desperate. Time stamp doesn't even match the clock.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[The Slim Reaper]

First you warned me about Jeremy Corbyn, and I did not care because I'm not Jeremy Corbyn.

prayers up for Mr Collier and the dude above who is 1/8th of the writing team for the 2nd Borat movie :laugh:

[arista]

[Cargo ship with 22 crew onboard and part-owned by
an Israeli tycoon with ties to the former boss of
Mossad is 'hijacked by Yemen's Houthi rebels' in
the Red Sea - after the Iran-backed militia vowed
to target Israeli-linked vessels

The Galaxy Leader was boarded by
gunmen as it travelled through the Red Sea]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/19/18/77988277-12767701-Israeli_Defence_Forces_said_the_hijacking_of_the_s hip_was_a_very-a-5_1700418465779.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12767701/Cargo-ship-hijacked-Yemens-Houthi-rebels-Red-Sea-22-crew-members-board-none-Israeli-citizens-IDF-says.html


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/19/18/77990611-12767701-image-a-2_1700418465777.jpg

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/84B8/production/_131767933_telegraph20-nc.png.webp

[Oliver_W]

He's EDL-lite like most footie hooligans. Or at least, he pretends to be these days because he's got a more mainstream-ish audience. He's still basically the darling of the skinhead football yobs though.

Talking about islamification (for want of a better term) is a fair discussion. Maybe he's not the one to do it for a mainstream audience. But would anyone who tries be dismissed in a similar way?

[Cherie]

So let me get this straight, the Al Shifa hospital has been used by Hamas as a base, and they shot a female Israeli soldier in the hospital itself, but nothing to see here at all, as I have said many times the Palestinian people are not being served by their own government at all, they are caught between a rock and a hard place..

[Oliver_W]

So let me get this straight, the Al Shifa hospital has been used by Hamas as a base, and they shot a female Israeli soldier in the hospital itself, but nothing to see here at all, as I have said many times the Palestinian people are not being served by their own government at all, they are caught between a rock and a hard place..

No it's all fake because their clock is wrong.

[user104658]

Talking about islamification (for want of a better term) is a fair discussion. Maybe he's not the one to do it for a mainstream audience. But would anyone who tries be dismissed in a similar way?

If they were an academic with a good track record and were providing robust, evidence-based sociology and statistics? They might be treated the same way by some (uneducated 20 year olds) but they'd get a lot more traction with people who actually want to see real evidence behind any claims made, not anecdotes and propaganda.

"My mate Ted right he were down high street and yeah sure it were after a few pints but he wasn't blind drunk or nuffink and he went to get his chips, cheese and gravy and they were stomping on a Jewish kitten they were!"

[Oliver_W]

If they were an academic with a good track record and were providing robust, evidence-based sociology and statistics? They might be treated the same way by some (uneducated 20 year olds) but they'd get a lot more traction with people who actually want to see real evidence behind any claims made, not anecdotes and propaganda.

"My mate Ted right he were down high street and yeah sure it were after a few pints but he wasn't blind drunk or nuffink and he went to get his chips, cheese and gravy and they were stomping on a Jewish kitten they were!"

I guess "wordless pointing to any islamified country" might pass muster when it comes to the standard of debates on an internet forum, but mainstream arguments do need some substance :laugh:

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[Nicky91]

those ''tunnels'' looked more like a sewer :suspect:


also that video footage of inside the hospital looked more like an evacuation rather than a hostage situation :umm2: they were all told to go to a location behind those doors what you see


and if those are hamas terrorists, my name is earl :umm2: they weren't even dressed in typical hamas militant soldier outfits with all honesty


IDF are spreading more lies to try and defend their bombings of hospitals, schools in Gaza

:umm2:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F_XypU2WoAEnZnQ?format=jpg&name=medium

[arista]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2023/11/19/1766315746063203095/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_1766315746063203095.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

Can we rename this thread yet?

[arista]

Can we rename this thread yet?


What is Your Problem?

[user104658]

What is Your Problem?

The thread title does not reflect the thread content, poster.

[Cherie]

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Well then

[user104658]

Well then

Well then what?

[arista]

The thread title does not reflect the thread content, poster.



What do you want it as?

[arista]

Latest
Some Hostages may be released
on Thursday
or before.

CNN HD USA Live Feed/ Ch5HDnews Live/SkyNewsHD

Israel has released prisoners
as a deal.

[The Slim Reaper]

How about renaming it "The LT thread for posting tweets that claim everything in the world is anti-Semitism"

I have another example

Octopi are anti-Semitic

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[Cherie]

Latest
Some Hostages may be released
on Thursday
or before.

CNN HD USA Live Feed/ Ch5HDnews Live/SkyNewsHD

Israel has released prisoners
as a deal.

Hope so, I wonder how many survived

[arista]

Hope so, I wonder how many survived


Yes, a bit less than the total,
some sadly killed by Israel Missiles

[Crimson Dynamo]

How about renaming it "The LT thread for posting tweets that claim everything in the world is anti-Semitism"

I have another example

Octopi are anti-Semitic

1726706215856562671

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/images/large/400b5cd0-62f3-4136-974c-f540f1146e4f.jpg

Beginning in the 1920s, Nazi propagandists promoted the antisemitic myth that Jews were engaged in a massive conspiracy to take over the world. This false notion alleged that “international Jewry” used various people and groups as part of a plan for global conquest. At the time, an octopus extending its tentacles over the globe was a common visual metaphor for this myth.

https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/photo/anti-jewish-propaganda

[The Slim Reaper]

That's why I posted it. As obvious and brazen display of AS as you will ever find. Not surprising that it's on the AS BBC though.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F85bOzRXwAAZd_L.jpg

Climate eejit Greta Thunberg has removed a social media post expressing support for Palestine (straight after the Hamas Terror attack on innocent Jewish people) after facing criticism over a stuffed blue octopus visible in the photo, which some claimed could be seen as an 'anti-Semitic' symbol.


https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/uk/greta-thunbergs-pro-palestine-post-sparks-controversy-over-alleged-anti-semitic-symbol/articleshow/104643642.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst

[The Slim Reaper]

The fact she faced criticism for the Octopus, shows how bonkers the world has gone, and how impressive the Israeli propaganda war has been over the years.

[arista]

I hope she is not Supporting
Evil Hamas.

[The Slim Reaper]

How about renaming it "The LT thread for posting tweets and pictures that claim everything in the world is anti-Semitism"

I have another example

Octopi are anti-Semitic


Just updating the thread title

[The Slim Reaper]

I hope she is not Supporting
Evil Hamas.

Everyone against the Zionist genocide supports Hamas. Got my membership card through the other day. I'm due to fly out to Lebanon in a couple of weeks for a friendly meet and greet. Hope they have canapes.

[arista]

Slim take your fight with LT
to Chat and Games


Please,

[The Slim Reaper]

Slim take your fight to Chat and Games


Please,

What fight? There is no fight. I'm just looking at the thread and saying what I see.

[arista]

Everyone against the Zionist genocide supports Hamas. Got my membership card through the other day. I'm due to fly out to Lebanon in a couple of weeks for a friendly meet and greet. Hope they have canapes.


Its not that,

[Crimson Dynamo]

I hope she is not Supporting
Evil Hamas.

"An Israeli army spokesperson said: ‘Whoever identifies with Greta in any way in the future, in my view, is a terror supporter.’"

Thunberg also shared on her Instagram account a post by a German-based pro-
Palestinian account which says a “genocide” is happening in Gaza.


The group, Palestine Speaks — which celebrated Hamas' lethal assault on Israel
— talked of its "indignation against genocide in Gaza and the
repressive state terror of many Western states against anyone who shows and
acts in solidarity with the Palestinians.”

https://www.politico.eu/article/greta-thunberg-calls-global-pro-palestinian-strike-gaza-genocide-israel-slam/

[The Slim Reaper]

I identify with Greta

https://qph.cf2.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-6c0ea9647842842693157f213db24e19

[The Slim Reaper]

Its not that,

What is it then?

[Liam-]

What is it then?

Israel are being forced to slaughter thousands of innocent children and wipe out whole generations of families, they have no choice :bawling:

[The Slim Reaper]

Israel are being forced to slaughter thousands of innocent children and wipe out whole generations of families, they have no choice :bawling:

Self defence, bro. An eye for a whole people wiped off the map. Tommy Robinson supports Israel, so that's good enough for me and my stone island clad, Galahad friends

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hamas doesn’t care about the Palestinians.

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[arista]

What is it then?

They want to kill the Terrorists

[arista]

Ch4HDnews Live in Israel

Got a message from Hamas

"Hostage Releases are NOT Finalised"

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/lowkey0nline/status/1727038515375214792?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

[arista]

Hamas admits 10 children hostages are missing

Possible 4 day pause


Around 50, women and children may be released


On this deal 150 Prisoners
are to be released from Israel.

[arista]

Of the 50 Hostages (women and children)
that may be released
3 are said to be Americans.

Expecting over next 4 days or so.



Ref:CNN HD USA on UK TV/ FoxNewsHD (online)

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/lowkey0nline/status/1727074178254373223?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

[Cherie]

https://twitter.com/lowkey0nline/status/1727074178254373223?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

The guy is clearly insane

[arista]

The guy is clearly insane

Typical NYC

[user104658]

How about renaming it "The LT thread for posting tweets that claim everything in the world is anti-Semitism"


My vote was going to be for "LT's Twitter and Youtube Shitpost Copy-paste Repository"

[arista]

My vote was going to be for "LT's Twitter and Youtube Shitpost Copy-paste Repository"


Do not reply to a Dead Tweet

(Not Found)

[Liam-]

Typical NYC

No, he’s a racist that believe slaughtering children is the right thing to do

[user104658]

Do not reply to a Dead Tweet

(Not Found)

That's not the part I was replying to you silly goose. I've edited anyway for your viewing pleasure.

[arista]

That's not the part I was replying to you silly goose. I've edited anyway for your viewing pleasure.

Yes, I knew that

[Liam-]

Can we not gloss over the fact that Israel are releasing 150 hostages in return and the media is barely talking about the vast number of civilians that they’ve got locked away, we already know the mainstream bias against Palestine, but calling hamas hostages ‘hostages’ and Israeli hostages ‘prisoners’ is so beyond

[arista]

No, he’s a racist that believe slaughtering children is the right thing to do


Yes Evil Speaking Jewish NYC old git


I have been in NYC twice
so when I say it is typical
I mean, it is a mix of so many folks,
that can boil over.

A Cop could arrest him.

[arista]

Can we not gloss over the fact that Israel are releasing 150 hostages in return and the media is barely talking about the vast number of civilians that they’ve got locked away, we already know the mainstream bias against Palestine, but calling hamas hostages ‘hostages’ and Israeli hostages ‘prisoners’ is so beyond


Yes, some are just young Arab lads,
who chucked stones.

CNN HD USA on UK TV told us.


Good they are doing a Deal


Yes, Israel Army have
Hostages for a many years

[user104658]

Can we not gloss over the fact that Israel are releasing 150 hostages in return and the media is barely talking about the vast number of civilians that they’ve got locked away, we already know the mainstream bias against Palestine, but calling hamas hostages ‘hostages’ and Israeli hostages ‘prisoners’ is so beyond

The justification they have for this is obvious and they're not even shy about stating it: to be prisoners rather than hostages in a war, they have to be enemy combatants. Israel's propaganda is that ANY Palestinian who didn't immediately somehow leave Gaza as soon as they were told to is an enemy combatant. Thus, when captured, a prisoner of war.

Even if they're a 6 year old kid.

[Liam-]

The justification they have for this is obvious and they're not even shy about stating it: to be prisoners rather than hostages in a war, they have to be enemy combatants. Israel's propaganda is that ANY Palestinian who didn't immediately somehow leave Gaza as soon as they were told to is an enemy combatant. Thus, when captured, a prisoner of war.

Even if they're a 6 year old kid.

It’s the rank hypocrisy to (rightly) condemn Hamas for taking innocent hostages, while expecting people to not do the same to Israel for taking even more hostages themselves, it’s going to show how much power and sway Israel has over western countries and media sources, their crimes are constantly sanitised

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

Schrodinger's Hospital Bombing: Where the same bombing of a hospital in Gaza was somehow both a false flag attack by Hamas themselves with a Hamas rocket, and also a legitimate attack by the IDF because there was Hamas under the hospital.

[Liam-]

Schrodinger's Hospital Bombing: Where the same bombing of a hospital in Gaza was somehow both a false flag attack by Hamas themselves with a Hamas rocket, and also a legitimate attack by the IDF because there was Hamas under the hospital.

‘Our rockets killed the Hamas member we were looking for!… but Hamas’ rocket they fired at the exact same time killed all the civilians around the person we killed with phenomenal precision, we swear, trust us!’

[user104658]

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So he's saying that Hamas attacks (as all terrorist attacks) were designed to promote a swift and brutal counterattack with large numbers of civilian casualties, because that is what bolsters and furthers the cause of terrorist organisations, and is the well understood and documented mechanism of how terrorism works (when it works). This isn't some new revelation ... ... this is literally the purpose of terrorism.

The recent Israeli response: Bombs awaaay!

And now we're supposed to play-pretend that anyone with the slightest modicum of political knowledge (including the IDF and Israeli government, who have VAST experience of these politics) weren't 100% aware of everything that was said in this video before opting to respond by launching a scorched earth "human shields be damned" push into Gaza instead of preparing a more intelligent and surgical counter-offensive.

Only the truly, truly gullible would believe it. Or only those so committedly disingenuous that they're prepared to look that gullible would pretend to.

It couldn't be me. How do you do it?

[user104658]

‘Our rockets killed the Hamas member we were looking for!… but Hamas’ rocket they fired at the exact same time killed all the civilians around the person we killed with phenomenal precision, we swear, trust us!’

You forgot to mention that an evil Palestinian toddler tied a puppy to the rocket just for giggles :(

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-96db6d6b-700e-424b-b07f-089d0d6e0924.png

[Crimson Dynamo]

Terror murder group hamas are still firing rockets into Israel

still

still

it beggars belief how little they care for the people of "Palestine"

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/ytirawi/status/1727262445033386230?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

[Cherie]

Mosab Hassan Yousef, the son of Hamas co-founder Sheikh Hassan Yousef, spoke out at the UN on Monday about the horrors perpetrated by Hamas.

Yousef spoke about Hamas terror attacks, such as suicide bombings carried out against Israeli civilians, and the indoctrination of the population in Gaza – especially children – by the genocidal terrorist group that he was once intimately connected with.

Today I can speak on the authority of [myself, having once been] a Palestinian child, someone who grew up in that culture," Youssef said.

“We’re talking about a religious group that does not believe in political borders and wants to annihilate an entire race in order to build an Islamic state. I don't know what else can be said about this – and I don't know why it is not obvious to everybody.”
Yousef, who wrote a book titled Son of Hamas in 2010, has rallied against the terror group since defecting in the 1990s. Yousef worked with Israeli counter-intelligence and helped the Mossad in various operations – including incarcerating his own father, Hamas co-founder Sheikh Hassan Yousef.

Mosab Hassan Yousef (credit: REUTERS/Ronen Zvulun)
"Hamas' first crime against children in the Palestinian societies is not arming them or encouraging them to carry suicide bombing attacks – it's the religious ideological indoctrination that I had to go through with one intention in mind: to annihilate the State of Israel. This is Hamas's primary goal," Yousef said.

As "a 10-year-old child when I disobeyed Hamas, I was tied up to a post and I was whipped by a Hamas top leader. My father was in prison at that time and this leader thought that he was my mentor. This is Hamas discipline. This is how they wanted me to be... to become a violent savage like them," the defecting son said

Son of Hamas"
Youssef has long spoken publicly about his experiences growing up in the West Bank city of Ramallah as the son of Hassan Yousef, a co-founder of Hamas, being imprisoned, and becoming an informant and later advocate for Israel.

He’s also spoken on behalf of media groups, such as his address at the 2019 Jerusalem Post Annual Conference, and for NGOs such as in his 2017 speech at a UN Human Rights Council debate for UN Watch.

Youssef was also the subject of the 2014 documentary The Green Prince.

"I am not a part of propaganda. I don't work for anybody. I only represent myself and on this authority I speak, so don't be mistaken and [instead] take my words very carefully,” Youssef said in his remarks.

“Hamas is committing a crime against this generation and the next generations to come, so blaming Israel is not going to solve the problem."


https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/son-of-hamas-co-founder-speaks-out-against-hamas-violence-indoctrination-at-un/ar-AA1koh8Q?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=cb9d645816ca45b1a131d4189d44d0f1&ei=24

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/cnn/status/1727456217482617113?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

So Israel broke the ceasefire almost immediately, I am shocked!

[arista]

The 4-day pause is to start on Friday

Slick Liam


Technical Note: When I wrote that, there was no Tweet
it sometimes takes too long to load on tibb
something that can not be fixed, sadly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Sly news are the worst

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Widespread racism and hate speech at Mosques in the UK - chilling

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[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/lowkey0nline/status/1727655968652075117?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Just the mainstream media trying to sanitise Israel holding Palestinian children hostage

[arista]

The Qatar Official dealing with
HAMAS and Israel
spoke on all media.

He hopes tomorrow
some Hamas held hostages
of women and children
the first 13 to be
released after 4PM

Ref:CNN HD USA/SkyNewsHD/FoxNewsHD (online only)

[Cherie]

Widespread racism and hate speech at Mosques in the UK - chilling

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ffs they should all be arrested for hate speech? funny how the police can hone in on someone at a football match more or less immediately who is spouting something hateful but they cant arrest Imans?

[Cherie]

https://twitter.com/lowkey0nline/status/1727655968652075117?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Just the mainstream media trying to sanitise Israel holding Palestinian children hostage

Teens are very capable of violence? not so sure about 9 month old babies though :think:

Its like saying Jamie Bulgers killers should never have been incarcerated

[Oliver_W]

https://twitter.com/lowkey0nline/status/1727655968652075117?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Just the mainstream media trying to sanitise Israel holding Palestinian children hostage

Teens are very capable of violence? not so sure about 9 month old babies though :think:

Its like saying Jamie Bulgers killers should never have been incarcerated

Is it known how old they are?

In what circumstances were they taken hostage?

[Livia]

Is it known how old they are?

In what circumstances were they taken hostage?

None of the prisoners to be released for the Israeli hostages are "hostages" themselves. They are all guilty of crimes including arson, setting bombs and booby traps, stabbing and a whole host of other crimes. No murderers will be released but some are guilty of attempted murder. The youngest among them is 14, incarcerated for attacking police officers.

[Oliver_W]

None of the prisoners to be released for the Israeli hostages are "hostages" themselves. They are all guilty of crimes including arson, setting bombs and booby traps, stabbing and a whole host of other crimes. No murderers will be released but some are guilty of attempted murder. The youngest among them is 14, incarcerated for attacking police officers.

So it's more a case of Hamas demanding the release of legitimate prisoners, in exchange for actual hostages?

[user104658]

None of the prisoners to be released for the Israeli hostages are "hostages" themselves. They are all guilty of crimes including arson, setting bombs and booby traps, stabbing and a whole host of other crimes. No murderers will be released but some are guilty of attempted murder. The youngest among them is 14, incarcerated for attacking police officers.

Source?

[arista]

Foreign Secretary Lord Cameron
is in Israel.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Source?

DT

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/what-are-the-details-of-the-israel-hamas-hostage-deal/ar-AA1kquyO

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[The Slim Reaper]

So it's more a case of Hamas demanding the release of legitimate prisoners, in exchange for actual hostages?

Bless your little cotton socks.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Bless your little cotton socks.

women being raped and babies being murdered in cold blood is not a place to take the piss to score "forum points" ffs

:facepalm:

[The Slim Reaper]

women being raped and babies being murdered in cold blood is not a place to take the piss to score "forum points" ffs

:facepalm:

You've been posting like a puppy on the Peruvian marching powder for the last hour or two.

https://media.tenor.com/1xXqFKBna2cAAAAC/beaker-muppets.gif



I think I'm ok with whatever it is you're accusing me of :laugh:

[arista]

7AM there now


The Truce is to start this hour

CNN HD Live

[Cherie]

https://twitter.com/lowkey0nline/status/1727074178254373223?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

This guy has been arrested, he is a former advisor to Obama

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/nyc-halal-food-truck-vendor-terrified-by-former-obama-adviser-s-racial-abuse/ar-AA1kmWzf?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=695cbaa0064d48ec8309d33eb3ccb38c&ei=38

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sly News at it again

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[Livia]

Sky News and the BBC pretty much report what Hamas press releases tell them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Sky News and the BBC pretty much report what Hamas press releases tell them.

yep...

oh and

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[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/nuryvittachi/status/1727851651900620813?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1727917798939095079?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Always burying the lead to protect Israel

[arista]

The First 13
Children & Women Hostages
are due to be released 2PM



All media.

[Livia]

I wonder if the 10 month old baby held hostage has been released, or if the child is dead. And the nine year old girl... I don't want to imagine what's happened to her even if she is alive.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

The First 13 Hostages
to be released
in a few mins.


Live All media

[arista]

It is 12 Thai Hostages being released
to Egypt via the Red Cross


Also
13 Israeli Hostages also getting released to the Red Cross
in Gaza. Also to Egypt


First Part of the Hamas Deal

CNN HD USA live on UK TV,

[arista]

Now Dark There.

24 Hostages travelling with Red Cross

[Zizu]

I wonder who chooses the ones handed back ??


Are they requested or just random

I’m intrigued as to how they work the details of the trades out


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[arista]

I wonder who chooses the ones handed back ??


Are they requested or just random

I’m intrigued as to how they work the details of the trades out




The Hamas sub leader

[arista]

Israel is releasing around 39 of their Prisoners
back to Gaza

[Zizu]

The Hamas sub leader


But does he choose who he gets back ?

Ie just random soldiers or officers or what


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[arista]

But does he choose who he gets back ?

Ie just random soldiers or officers or what



Yes

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/24/17/78207317-12787625-image-a-9_1700847974682.jpg

The 12 Israelis realised

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12787625/First-hostages-released-Israel-Hamas-exchange-truce-deal.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

the SLy News agenda against Israel is actually chilling

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Oliver_W]

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Prisoners arrested for crimes, versus hostages taken for hostage.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/FEED/production/_131816256_tim.001.1gm.25nov_frontpage_page-0001.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/17BED/production/_131816279_i-newspaper_page1_34325929.jpg.webp