Israel declares 'state of war' : Hamas fire '5,000' rockets

[user104658]

so now you are sharing blatant antisemitic stuff

I'd like to see you justify in what way what Liam shared is in any way antisemitic, let alone "blatantly" antisemitic. I'll be baffled if you even try. I'm sure you won't; easier to just drop a bomb and walk away than actually try to dig into any sort of nuance. Right? Yes I believe that's the current script isn't it.

[bots]

i don't need to justify my comments to anyone or reply on demand for that matter

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

i don't need to justify my comments to anyone or reply on demand for that matter

No you don't and you'll see that I predicted that you wouldn't - because you can't.

So instead I'll just describe what I saw and you can tell me that I'm wrong (or not, as you say you don't have to do anything).

1) Liam posted a video of someone suggesting/advocating/threatening/perhaps promising(?) genocide of a civilian population as an inevitability.

2) You called him antisemitic, because the person in that video happened to be Jewish.

3) It was suggested that you couldn't justify that remark

4) You incredulously refused to justify the remark, with a silly air of "I could if I wanted to but I don't so there".


Have I missed the mark?

As a note to mods: I would suggest that dropping an accusation of antisemitism (and yes, you could apply this to any other -ism or -phobe) without any attempt whatsoever to justify the reasoning for saying it (I'm not advocating a ban on saying it, just that people show their working, so to speak) should be considered a baseless personal insult and thus a violation of forum rules. Just a thought.

[arista]

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Spoof from USA.


Used to be on the Daily Show
but that show was stopped
after Trevor Noah
left.
And they never got a replacement
just temps


It is all Trevor's fault

[joeysteele]

No you don't and you'll see that I predicted that you wouldn't - because you can't.

So instead I'll just describe what I saw and you can tell me that I'm wrong (or not, as you say you don't have to do anything).

1) Liam posted a video of someone suggesting/advocating/threatening/perhaps promising(?) genocide of a civilian population as an inevitability.

2) You called him antisemitic, because the person in that video happened to be Jewish.

3) It was suggested that you couldn't justify that remark

4) You incredulously refused to justify the remark, with a silly air of "I could if I wanted to but I don't so there".


Have I missed the mark?

As a note to mods: I would suggest that dropping an accusation of antisemitism (and yes, you could apply this to any other -ism or -phobe) without any attempt whatsoever to justify the reasoning for saying it (I'm not advocating a ban on saying it, just that people show their working, so to speak) should be considered a baseless personal insult and thus a violation of forum rules. Just a thought.


After I don't know how many times now and over years too as to myself.

Your last paragraph is one I endorse 100%
Absolutely.

Plus I saw nothing at all to justify terming what Liam posted as of anything remotely antisemitic
It's become an easy accusation to throw out however it is an inflammatory, incitive and dangerous accusation to make

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/02/10/77312337-12701571-image-a-11_1698919550922.jpg


Arrest this Punk
Lock him up for 3 months
Criminal Damage

[Smear red paint over the Foreign Office and weapons firm's HQ]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12701571/Pro-Palestine-protester-smears-weapons-firms-London-HQ-red-paint-Free-Gaza-police-arrest-man-suspicion-criminal-damage.html

[Nicky91]

No you don't and you'll see that I predicted that you wouldn't - because you can't.

So instead I'll just describe what I saw and you can tell me that I'm wrong (or not, as you say you don't have to do anything).

1) Liam posted a video of someone suggesting/advocating/threatening/perhaps promising(?) genocide of a civilian population as an inevitability.

2) You called him antisemitic, because the person in that video happened to be Jewish.

3) It was suggested that you couldn't justify that remark

4) You incredulously refused to justify the remark, with a silly air of "I could if I wanted to but I don't so there".


Have I missed the mark?

As a note to mods: I would suggest that dropping an accusation of antisemitism (and yes, you could apply this to any other -ism or -phobe) without any attempt whatsoever to justify the reasoning for saying it (I'm not advocating a ban on saying it, just that people show their working, so to speak) should be considered a baseless personal insult and thus a violation of forum rules. Just a thought.

Treat other forum members with respect. Posts which insult or direct profanity towards another member, will be deleted, or edited out. This may lead to a forum warnings, infractions and posting bans

is in the rules



also in the rules is this

Racism/homophobia/xenophobia/discrimination of any sort won't be tolerated.


so if Liam broke any rules i think mods would've already acted




but honestly i don't like to mini-mod myself (just saying be nice and keep things professional in here, and we don't have to give our mods too much work to do)

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/02/01/77299185-12700103-image-m-32_1698889949045.jpg



Palestine Burning
in New Xmas Ad.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12700103/M-S-forced-apologise-social-media-users-offence-festive-party-hats-burned-open-fire-pointing-colours-Palestinian-flag.html

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/02/00/77298983-12700103-image-a-11_1698886375481.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/02/10/77313301-12700103-image-a-1_1698920783403.jpg


Arrest this Punk

[Oliver_W]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/02/01/77299185-12700103-image-m-32_1698889949045.jpg



Palestine Burning
in New Xmas Ad.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12700103/M-S-forced-apologise-social-media-users-offence-festive-party-hats-burned-open-fire-pointing-colours-Palestinian-flag.html

Omg :joker: :laugh:

That was OBVIOUSLY unintentional, as those are just traditional Christmassy colours...

But the timing etc just makes it so morbidly funny.

[arista]

Omg :joker: :laugh:

That was OBVIOUSLY unintentional, as those are just traditional Christmassy colours...

But the timing etc just makes it so morbidly funny.


Yes filmed in August

[Oliver_W]

An argument for that video being antisemetic could be:

A random woman who has nothing to do with the Israeli government is being used as propaganda to drive the narrative that all Zionists want Palestine destroyed. She didn't ask to be the face of Zionism, so using a random Jewish woman as a poster girl is antisemitic.

That's not what I actually think, I don't have an opinion on that video in all honesty. But it's not hard to actually come up with a justification for a viewpoint.

[Stu]

Why don't you fu ck off and stop hounding me on every post. I repeat, i will say what i want.
And if you say daft bollocks you can't back up, people will pull you up on it.

This is kind of what sitting at the dinner table with the rest of the adults entails.

You were absolutely murdered and it was fully deserved in this case.

Anyway, onto more anti-semitism...

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It's a bit pointless trying to balance out people's algorithms and the thread's own (largely one-man-on-a-mission) internal algorithm when waiting for my dinner to cook, I know, but trust me people will look back on their absolute hubris of being partisan and privy to this genocide whilst literal human rights scholars were whistleblowing as to the magnitude of what was going on.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Niamh.]

Well If Ben Shapiro says it........

[Cherie]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/02/01/77299185-12700103-image-m-32_1698889949045.jpg



Palestine Burning
in New Xmas Ad.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12700103/M-S-forced-apologise-social-media-users-offence-festive-party-hats-burned-open-fire-pointing-colours-Palestinian-flag.html

dont be so ridiculous.......

[Crimson Dynamo]

dont be so ridiculous.......

The lack of balls in corporates is just that, ridiculous

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Cherie]

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Oh boy

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

Why don't you fu ck off and stop hounding me on every post. I repeat, i will say what i want.

If you can't debate stay out of the debates forum, and if I want to respond to your posts and call them out for what they are I will. As I've had to say to others before -- if you're going to get weepy about being "hounded" then stick to chat & games and the Big Bro section. Or don't. It's your call but if you're posting in a debates forum, expect to be disagreed with, expect to be asked to justify your posts, and expect to be called out for it if you refuse.

[arista]

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https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-e371c745-d2ee-42bd-a2f3-ecce0fff6401.png

[arista]

Boycott M&S
https://twitter.com/izzatdalphia/status/1719867107171774640

This is getting worse

Trending

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23boycottMarksandSpencer&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

[bots]

If you can't debate stay out of the debates forum, and if I want to respond to your posts and call them out for what they are I will. As I've had to say to others before -- if you're going to get weepy about being "hounded" then stick to chat & games and the Big Bro section. Or don't. It's your call but if you're posting in a debates forum, expect to be disagreed with, expect to be asked to justify your posts, and expect to be called out for it if you refuse.

You have hounded me on this forum on nearly every post. You are so up yourself, thinking you are gods gift to debate. You don't make the rules, you cant dictate how i use this forum .... consider yourself ignored

[joeysteele]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-e371c745-d2ee-42bd-a2f3-ecce0fff6401.png

That is a disgraceful inflammatory article and an attempt to deliberately divide further.
Some individuals and some of the media are absolutely shocking.

[bots]

I never thought i would say it in my lifetime, but i think we are on the brink of martial law, if things escalate much further

[Cherie]

Boycott M&S
https://twitter.com/izzatdalphia/status/1719867107171774640

This is getting worse

Trending

https://twitter.com/search?q=%23boycottMarksandSpencer&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

what do these thickos not understand

a red white and green are not exclusive to Palestine

and b these adverts were made months ago

[Oliver_W]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6iS452WoAAIueG?format=jpg&name=small

[Cherie]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F6iS452WoAAIueG?format=jpg&name=small

:laugh: sums up this thread to a tee

[user104658]

You have hounded me on this forum on nearly every post. You are so up yourself, thinking you are gods gift to debate. You don't make the rules, you cant dictate how i use this forum .... consider yourself ignored

I'm sure you can't see the irony in this post, which I have to say is fun for me.

Anyway: OK all good. As always, I'll continue to reply to your posts and pass comment on the content of them, and call out unjustified ad-hominem accusations of antisemitism when I see them, because... *ahem*... "you can't dictate how I use this forum". You don't get to shut people up by throwing around baseless insults. Note that I don't have any particular issue with insults: just you know... back them up... with something. Or don't and get called out for it, but apparently, that makes you quite upset so probably not the best game to be playing.

Consider yourself not ignored, I guess?

[user104658]

:laugh: sums up this thread to a tee

It sums up SD's. Or rather, it sums up the internet. But why else are we here? :flutter:.

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/carl0s_vela/status/1719062377940021692?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

[Oliver_W]

:laugh: sums up this thread to a tee

It sums up SD's. Or rather, it sums up the internet. But why else are we here? :flutter:.

Yeah it wasn't aimed at anyone specific or meant personally, I literally saw it right before posting it and found it funny :laugh:

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1720214205473636437?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Forced displacement by means of threats, intimidation and violence… if only there was a word for that :think:

[Denver]

Hezbollah will today declare war on Isreal, they are one of the most dangerous armies in the world and this is gonna kick off a massive world war

[user104658]

I genuinely think this will end with Gaza as a dust bowl, and the West Bank depopulated/fully annexed as Israel. ANd I don't think Israel will face international consequences.

Seriously troubling times, but meh. We've been in the End Of Days narrative arc for nearly a decade now, this is just another subplot.

[Denver]

I genuinely think this will end with Gaza as a dust bowl, and the West Bank depopulated/fully annexed as Israel. ANd I don't think Israel will face international consequences.

Seriously troubling times, but meh. We've been in the End Of Days narrative arc for nearly a decade now, this is just another subplot.

But unlike other times this is clearly a start of Iran trying to gain control of the World with some dangerous allies in their corner

[user104658]

Hezbollah will today declare war on Isreal, they are one of the most dangerous armies in the world and this is gonna kick off a massive world war

Depends. Only if Russia/China get involved and both have other issues. Hezbollah can't fight modern western military tech and they don't have nuclear weapons to use as a deterrent like Russia... ... ... a 3rd Gulf War is more likely than WW3 and it will be extremely lopsided. Take Israel vs Gaza as a microcosm of what will happen. If it wants to (and in an absence of interference from other world powers) the US military could reduce the entire Middle East to dust around Israel with barely any losses and without using nuclear weapons.

[Cherie]

https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1720214205473636437?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Forced displacement by means of threats, intimidation and violence… if only there was a word for that :think:

This is surely where Hamas should have directed their ire rather than at a peace festival and a Kibbutz?

[user104658]

This is surely where Hamas should have directed their ire rather than at a peace festival and a Kibbutz?

The situations in Gaza and the West Bank are entirely different.

[Nicky91]

I genuinely think this will end with Gaza as a dust bowl, and the West Bank depopulated/fully annexed as Israel. ANd I don't think Israel will face international consequences.

Seriously troubling times, but meh. We've been in the End Of Days narrative arc for nearly a decade now, this is just another subplot.

nope, the hypocrite EU and UN were quickly to hand out sanctions to Russia

but when it comes to Israel, they pretend they don't see them doing a single thing wrong


double standards :bored:



also as if Israel's government doesn't know about all the innocent people in Gaza, but who cares about those innocents, as long as we can take down Hamas whatever means necessary at whatever the cost :idc:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

what do these thickos not understand

a red white and green are not exclusive to Palestine

and b these adverts were made months ago


They can not hear you.


M&S Instagram Xmas Video
had Gaza Burning-- that's all they say

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

Good quote I read about Shapiro recently: It's easy to look clever when you only ever debate 20 year old University students.

It's not impressive that Shapiro at 39 years old has better debating skills and more knowledge than kids barely out of their teens :idc:.

[user104658]

That said, my 14-year-old could out-debate most of TiBB so I'm hurling rocks in a glass house with the above post.

[arista]

Good News

The 2 Women with the Photocopies of Flying Terrorists
on there backs, on the first march.

Both Charged with Terrorism.



SkyNewsHD Live

[arista]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2023/11/03/1852023891680214658/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_1852023891680214658.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12708095/Israeli-PM-Netanyahu-warns-dont-test-pay-dearly-ranting-Hezbollah-terror-group-chief-threatened-escalation-Lebanese-told-fleets-Mediterranean-will.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Liam-]

Now Israel is bombing ambulances full of injured people being evacuated, there is no morality or justification to this, this is not self defence, this is obvious and blatant genocide being watched by the world, it’s utterly shameful

[Crimson Dynamo]

Now Israel is bombing ambulances full of injured people being evacuated, there is no morality or justification to this, this is not self defence, this is obvious and blatant genocide being watched by the world, it’s utterly shameful

have you got a video and evidence that it wasnt Hamas bombing their own people (as they more often than not do)?

Ill put the kettle on..

[Oliver_W]

have you got a video and evidence that it wasnt Hamas bombing their own people (as they more often than not do)?

Ill put the kettle on..

It seems that it was an Israeli bombing, aimed at the Hamas operatives who were using the ambulaces as human shields.

[Stu]

Wow didn't know there was different laws over being allowed protest on a certain day versus others.

Thank god people died for those freedoms.

[Liam-]

Wow didn't know there was different laws over being allowed protest on a certain day versus others.

Thank god people died for those freedoms.

Thankfully they gave their lives up to give this government the freedom to systematically strip us of our freedoms

[Crimson Dynamo]

Wow didn't know there was different laws over being allowed protest on a certain day versus others.

Thank god people died for those freedoms.

try harder

[Crimson Dynamo]

It seems that it was an Israeli bombing, aimed at the Hamas operatives who were using the ambulaces as human shields.

colour

me

shocked

:bored:

[Livia]

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The people who would benefit from listening to this will not bother but continue with their smart-arsed, blinkered diatribes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The people who would benefit from listening to this will not bother but continue with their smart-arsed, blinkered diatribes.

amen

[Crimson Dynamo]

BBC MSM news everyone

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[user104658]

It seems that it was an Israeli bombing, aimed at the Hamas operatives who were using the ambulaces as human shields.

GaazFYTrQ_A

"There was some Hamas in there"

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-cba00111-7494-461e-b81a-ec7483437c5b.png

[Nicky91]

It seems that it was an Israeli bombing, aimed at the Hamas operatives who were using the ambulaces as human shields.

have you got evidence of that?



it was an ambulance with badly injured people



also israel attacking a school killing 20 innocent palestinians :(





hypothetically speaking, there could be hamas terrorists among them but honestly did the IDF have concrete evidence of such, or did they just act and hope they exterminate hamas terrorists

[joeysteele]

Natanyahu now not looking like he is really listening to the USA, will not be a good look for him.

My mind is now being altered considerablly on this.
Which I never thought I'd move to or wanted to.
This is getting way out of control.

It's all very well asking for evidence that it's Israel killing the what must be terrified ordinary Palestinians.
However where's the evidence it's NOT.
The more blinkered hardliners who won't have a word said against the current continuing Israeli action.
While avoiding the senseless killing of innocent Palestinian civilians.
Speaks volumes.

Hamas is evil, even to its own citizens.
However where can it be right for thousands of innocent men, women and children to be slaughtered in the pursuit of Hamas by Israel?
What kind of people other than Hamas should think that right or support such slaughter.

This is desperately heartbreaking.
Plus going on way too long.

[bots]

A lot of people haven't really ever seen the realities of war. It should be a giant wake up call to everyone, whichever side you happen to be on

[Livia]

A lot of people haven't really ever seen the realities of war. It should be a giant wake up call to everyone, whichever side you happen to be on

Indeed.

We're several generations away from WW2 now, people aren't really interested in it, generally. They don't have the connection with it that previous generations had. Wars we've been involved in since have not involved a home front as the war's been fought far away and only families of service personnel are really affected. These days I find particularly younger people are happy to use the hard fought-for freedoms against this country. For instance... to hold a march on Armistice day is legal. I doubt anyone could claim it's moral.

[Stu]

You can't simply equate marching on a certain day for a certain cause as being wholly anti-United Kingdom and immoral unless you're claiming to be the vanguard of some objective semblance of correct national standards and practices.

Evidently hundreds of thousands - if not millions - of people will be able to claim it's moral. Plenty of other people will find it disrespectful. And they're - without question - fully entitled to air that view.

Some of the mental gymnastics this must be giving the wor-it's-all-gone-woke free speech fundamentalists must take quite the amount of cognitive doping. A lot of them know this but will never admit to it, though. Being victim to identity politics invariably leads to a cul-de-sac of rhetorical apoplexy.

[user104658]

Some of the mental gymnastics this must be giving the wor-it's-all-gone-woke free speech fundamentalists must take quite the amount of cognitive doping. A lot of them know this but will never admit to it, though. Being victim to identity politics invariably leads to a cul-de-sac of rhetorical apoplexy.

It doesn't require mental gymnastics, 95% of the time it was a stance of convenience to begin with, not any sort of well-reasoned stance. Whatever happens to fit on the day.

[Oliver_W]

The only way it can justifiably be called a hate march is if they're truly planning on defacing memorial monuments.

[Stu]

The only way it can justifiably be called a hate march is if they're truly planning on defacing memorial monuments.
And doubtless when your sample size is tens if not hundreds of thousands of people - from across all social, political and racial demographics - this is going to happen and get uploaded to the digital banana farm.

[bots]

i'm all for free speech, but i will have a problem if there is violence or they start disrespecting/defacing the cenotaph

[Oliver_W]

And doubtless when your sample size is tens if not hundreds of thousands of people - from across all social, political and racial demographics - this is going to happen and get uploaded to the digital banana farm.

Which is why it it needs police presence - to protect the monuments, and to protect to well-meaning protesters' image.

[Livia]

The only way it can justifiably be called a hate march is if they're truly planning on defacing memorial monuments.

Or if they're chanting anti-Semitic sh1t, of course.

[arista]

Gaza Protestors with Flags
at Euston Station

The Rain is on the Way...............................

Live ITV1HDnews

[Nicky91]

Or if they're chanting anti-Semitic sh1t, of course.

it's okay to be pro-palestine, the palestinians are victims too



peaceful protesting should always be allowed tbf



just don't be Pro-Hamas (i mean sick scum who decapitate babies don't deserve support from anyone)



i support the israeli people, not the complete morons in their government (especially when knowing there are many innocent palestinians near those schools, hospitals, in ambulances and yet they still decide to continue to bomb everything, just because it's considered ''collateral damage'' people aren't numbers, if there are hamas terrorists amongst innocent civilians, act accordingly, with special forces commando's, cleanly taking out the terrorists and saving the civilians but no, the brainless of the IDF don't even think about that option)


sorry for the insults, but it really pisses me off, that they just obsess about ''destroy destroy destroy''

[arista]

Piccadilly Circus

3 new Muslim Protestors Arrests

SkyNewsHD Live

[arista]

They are now in Trafalgar Square

Good the Police are making arrests.

Pathetic BBC News Live
not telling you about arrests

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Oliver_W]

Which is why it it needs police presence - to protect the monuments, and to protect to well-meaning protesters' image.

To this I'm going to add it will avert vigilantism - I'm sure that some -let's call them "overly zealous patriots"- will be there to protect the Cenotaph etc, and they surely won't conduct themselves in an orderly manner either.

[Liam-]

The national front marched passed the cenotaph this morning, people didn’t seem to be so upset about that

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[joeysteele]

Truly terrible Bravernan will do more to create more unrest, suspicion and division than most of the UK put together.

[bots]

The national front marched passed the cenotaph this morning, people didn’t seem to be so upset about that

i wasn't aware of it, but they can **** right off. They are there to stir it up

[Crimson Dynamo]

i wasn't aware of it, but they can **** right off. They are there to stir it up

I think he means these chaps :joker:

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[Oliver_W]

The national front marched passed the cenotaph this morning, people didn’t seem to be so upset about that

What were they chanting?
What were they apparently going to deface?

Therein may lie the answer as to why no-one's upset, if the NF even was there.

[Stu]

What were they chanting?
"3,760 Palestinian children! Won't somebody please think of the statues!"

[Alf]

Now Israel is bombing ambulances full of injured people being evacuated, there is no morality or justification to this, this is not self defence, this is obvious and blatant genocide being watched by the world, it’s utterly shamefulStop watching then and go and fight instead.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Oliver_W]

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But it's okay, because a conflict is going on abroad.

[Alf]

That noisy rabble probably went in for a big Mac meal when the camera's were off.

[Alf]

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[Redway]

it's okay to be pro-palestine, the palestinians are victims too



peaceful protesting should always be allowed tbf



just don't be Pro-Hamas (i mean sick scum who decapitate babies don't deserve support from anyone)



i support the israeli people, not the complete morons in their government (especially when knowing there are many innocent palestinians near those schools, hospitals, in ambulances and yet they still decide to continue to bomb everything, just because it's considered ''collateral damage'' people aren't numbers, if there are hamas terrorists amongst innocent civilians, act accordingly, with special forces commando's, cleanly taking out the terrorists and saving the civilians but no, the brainless of the IDF don't even think about that option)


sorry for the insults, but it really pisses me off, that they just obsess about ''destroy destroy destroy''

A post from Nicky that isn’t inane thoughtless crap. I mustn’t be seeing right.

[Cherie]

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Young adults enjoying being able to freely abuse people going about their daily lives.....well done everyone this is really helping Palestine

Peaceful protest?

[Cherie]

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M5Flr-hQHcY

What is this buffoonery

[Crimson Dynamo]

Young adults enjoying being able to freely abuse people going about their daily lives.....well done everyone this is really helping Palestine

Peaceful protest?

Its not a protest its a "we all despise Jews" hate march

so sad to see so many young brainwashed women in it

[bots]

the irony is that those women wouldn't be able to protest like that in any muslim country, they would all be beaten to death

[Crimson Dynamo]

all thanks to Tony Blair and left-wing idiots..

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[Oliver_W]

I'm just relieved it's not a hate march.

[bots]

This is going to escalate, it's obvious

[joeysteele]

It's not just in London.
It's across the UK.

Why should people keep quiet and allow slaughter to go unchecked.
Just to please the hard-line right wing who would stop anything they don't agree with.

I near choked when I saw left and Tony Blair put together.
Anyone who believes Blair was of the left knows little possibly re politics.
He couldn't even bring himself to call Labour, just Labour.
There had to be a reason the creep Murdoch loved Blair.
Certainly not because he identified him as left.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

trying to kill British Police

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Oliver_W]

Why should people keep quiet and allow slaughter to go unchecked.
Why should violence, antisemitism, and potential desecration of war memorials be tolerated?
Because it's in "response" to conflicts happening thousands of miles away? That make it okay?

[joeysteele]

Why should violence, antisemitism, and potential desecration of war memorials be tolerated?
Because it's in "response" to conflicts happening thousands of miles away? That make it okay?

Where is the desecration??

Where is the antisemitism.
You're surely not expecting pro Palestinians and palestinians to be cheering Israel.

Just as it would make no sense for Israelis to be cheering Palestinian groups

The Cenotaph itself commemorates previous wars fought as much OUT of the UK, not just in it.

The Cenotaph was a memorial and a hope for peace in the world.
Where IS there peace.
You maybe can possibly stomach the hate between the 2 middle East nations.
When you see one senseless slaughter of innocents like Hamas in its evil aims carried out against Israelis.
Then see the now 4 weeks of senseless slaughter of innocents on the other side

People should shut up, say and do nothing
Lives should matter more than memorials which can be repaired or replaced.

Lost innocent lives of senseless slaughter from any sides, cannot be replaced.
They're gone for good.

While the world leaders just travel around and watch and talk.
What a mess, one almighty senseless mess.

[Redway]

trying to kill British Police

Shut up, you.

[Livia]

Where is the desecration??

Where is the antisemitism.
You're surely not expecting pro Palestinians and palestinians to be cheering Israel.

Just as it would make no sense for Israelis to be cheering Palestinian groups

The Cenotaph itself commemorates previous wars fought as much OUT of the UK, not just in it.

The Cenotaph was a memorial and a hope for peace in the world.
Where IS there peace.
You maybe can possibly stomach the hate between the 2 middle East nations.
When you see one senseless slaughter of innocents like Hamas in its evil aims carried out against Israelis.
Then see the now 4 weeks of senseless slaughter of innocents on the other side

People should shut up, say and do nothing
Lives should matter more than memorials which can be repaired or replaced.

Lost innocent lives of senseless slaughter from any sides, cannot be replaced.
They're gone for good.

While the world leaders just travel around and watch and talk.
What a mess, one almighty senseless mess.

Where is the anti-Semitism? Are you serious?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Where is the anti-Semitism? Are you serious?

i mean wtaf

its literally ALL anti- semitic

it could not be more glaringly obvious

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

There is indeed plenty of antisemitism present at these marches, just as there is plenty of Islamophobia amongst those who are staunchly pro-Israel. To say that it's "all that it's about" is reductive to the point of just being nonsensical, though... it's an immensely complex conflict with nearly a century of direct history (and centuries of indirect history). To say it's "just" anything is such a vast over-simplification of the issues present that it's barely worth even attempting a discussion.

[joeysteele]

I don't see people who are pro Palestine as antisemitic.

Hamas certainly and other terrorist groupings plus other surrounding Nations of Israel are beyond doubt

People who want the killing to stop on both sides.
No, that's NOT antisemitism.

It's become a norm of debate that antisemitism accusations get wildly thrown at groups and individuals just to suit an individual agenda.
People have to be careful what they say or how they say it for the point where a dangerous accusation of antisemitism could be thrown at them.

Even myself.
Who would always take a stand against antisemitism.
I was once told on here that when I said I had Jewish friends, ( who I have since I was a child).
I had thrown at me, my saying I had Jewish friends was like a racist saying he had black friends.

Dangerous words.
Wrongful accusations like in that example are USING antisemitism against people, not exposing it.

[Oliver_W]

I don't see people who are pro Palestine as antisemitic

There's a difference between "some of the marches contain antisemitism" and "being pro-Palestine is antisemitic"

[arista]

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[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-9dccceea-fa53-4ecb-83f1-2cf33f0e7fa7.png

[joeysteele]

There's a difference between "some of the marches contain antisemitism" and "being pro-Palestine is antisemitic"

It's actually frightening people think that.
So everyone has to be pro Israel only not to be seen as antisemitic.
Wow.

Being pro HAMAS is antisemitic.
Just supporting the innocent palestinians is NOT antisemetic at all.

[Oliver_W]

It's actually frightening people think that.
So everyone has to be pro Israel only not to be seen as antisemitic.
Being pro HAMAS is however.

Wow.

what you on about, I didn't say that at all :joker: :crazy:

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[The news that a lawyer who chairs an
official advisory body for Scotland Yard
was filmed leading pro-Palestinian protesters
in the controversial "From the river to the sea"
chant in 2021 is the lead story
in The Sunday Telegraph.]


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[arista]

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[joeysteele]

what you on about, I didn't say that at all :joker: :crazy:

You say in your post.
Being pro Palestine was antisemetic.

Perhaps I've misunderstood how you meant it.

If that's the case I apologise.

[Oliver_W]

You say in your post.
Being pro Palestine was antisemetic.

Perhaps I've misunderstood how you meant it.

If that's the case I apologise.

Did you notice there were some words before that? And some airquotes? Including those in your reading of the post might help give you some context.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-CReRXXoAAEay2?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

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[OnTheRight]

Come on IDF do your worst and destroy the terrorists.

[bots]

there is obviously a difference between caring about the plight of innocent civilians in gazza and supporting hamas, and that's why, up until now at least, demonstrations have been allowed to proceed with minimal arrests. Where it becomes problematic is if the demonstrations become aggressive, violent or destructive or if they end up being antisemitic hate mobs.

We all know large demonstrations can be infiltrated by extremist organisations, it's happened plenty times in the past. If speakers at rally's incite racial hatred then they should be arrested, plain and simple

It may seem like a complicated collection of considerations, but it really isn't and is easy enough to identify

[Nicky91]

Come on IDF do your worst and destroy the terrorists.

yes the terrorists must be taken down, but you gotta be smart about this, the most clean and efficient way without too much innocent palestinians getting killed


but don't listen to me Benny, never listen to common sense :idc:

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/05/03/77411643-12711815-Anti_Semitic_graffiti_reading_death_to_Israel_and_ Glory_to_our_m-a-43_1699155969277.jpg

[USA: Anti-Semitic graffiti reading 'death to Israel'
and 'Glory to our martyrs' was sprayed
on buildings in Washington DC ahead
of their march]

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/05/03/77415759-12711815-image-a-48_1699156008910.jpg

I doubt that.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12711815/Antisemitic-vandalism-capital-thousands-protesters-DC.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

Bernie Sanders
(now a independent senator)

Live on CNN HD USA on UK TV

[arista]

https://twitter.com/darrengrimes_/status/1721116321818030323

[joeysteele]

She needs to shut up with her incitive rhetoric

She's absolutely vile

[arista]

Except her last comment, Joey.

[Anyone that touches the Cenotaph must be placed into a jail]

[Livia]

I don't see people who are pro Palestine as antisemitic.

Hamas certainly and other terrorist groupings plus other surrounding Nations of Israel are beyond doubt

People who want the killing to stop on both sides.
No, that's NOT antisemitism.

It's become a norm of debate that antisemitism accusations get wildly thrown at groups and individuals just to suit an individual agenda.
People have to be careful what they say or how they say it for the point where a dangerous accusation of antisemitism could be thrown at them.

Even myself.
Who would always take a stand against antisemitism.
I was once told on here that when I said I had Jewish friends, ( who I have since I was a child).
I had thrown at me, my saying I had Jewish friends was like a racist saying he had black friends.

Dangerous words.
Wrongful accusations like in that example are USING antisemitism against people, not exposing it.

Are you completely blind to the plight of Jews in this country facing a massive increase in anti-Semitic attacks? British Jews, not Israelis.

As you know, it was I who said that about your dragging in your Jewish friends to a conversation as some kind of proof that you could never, ever say anything anti-Semitic. Dangerous words indeed... when people imagine that claiming Jewish friends gives them some kind of pass to express themselves as if they had some inside knowledge. Aren't your Jewish friends scared? I can tell you most of the Jews I know are kind of nervous, at the very least, about how things are going to pan out.

I'm pretty sure you're not anti-Semitic. I'm also pretty sure that you're not 100% clear on what anti-Semitism is.

She needs to shut up with her incitive rhetoric

She's absolutely vile

I will be at the Cenotaph next Sunday as I am every year, with my late first husband's friends. If people touch the cenotaph they'd better hope the police get to them first.

[AnnieK]

Are you completely blind to the plight of Jews in this country facing a massive increase in anti-Semitic attacks? British Jews, not Israelis.

As you know, it was I who said that about your dragging in your Jewish friends to a conversation as some kind of proof that you could never, ever say anything anti-Semitic. Dangerous words indeed... when people imagine that claiming Jewish friends gives them some kind of pass to express themselves as if they had some inside knowledge. Aren't your Jewish friends scared? I can tell you most of the Jews I know are kind of nervous, at the very least, about how things are going to pan out.

I'm pretty sure you're not anti-Semitic. I'm also pretty sure that you're not 100% clear on what anti-Semitism is.



I will be at the Cenotaph next Sunday as I am every year, with my late first husband's friends. If people touch the cenotaph they'd better hope the police get to them first.

I'm sure the majority of squaddies (past and present) think the same.

I would be very surprised if they get anywhere near.

[bots]

does anyone really think this is all going to be contained into a march every weekend? I don't. There is going to be some trigger point that sets it wild

[Ninastar]

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Jesus, you can see how much these ppl are enjoying shouting at kids and scaring them. Horrible

[Cherie]

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Jesus, you can see how much these ppl are enjoying shouting at kids and scaring them. Horrible

yep its nothing to do with Palestine, have the thickos researched if this particular McDonalds is a franchise or not? They just enjoy getting their likes on social media, just like the knobs ' who took Charing Cross Station' they are playing at politics and would run a mile if they had to actually go and fight

[user104658]

That's weird no one seemed bothered by the Bud Light boycott, or the backlash against any of the other brand/product caught up in the trans debate :think:.

Another case of whatever happens to suit on the day I guess. Angry boycotts and brand backlash can be either "quite right" or "hate filled thickos" depending on whether or not one happens to agree with the basis for the backlash. It's fascinating stuff.

Note: I'm not condoning their behaviour I just find it tough to watch people suddenly condemning the sort of mob-rabble behaviour they've been celebrating in another context for years :idc:. It's either moronic and wrong or it isn't.

[Ninastar]

That's weird no one seemed bothered by the Bud Light boycott, or the backlash against any of the other brand/product caught up in the trans debate :think:.

Another case of whatever happens to suit on the day I guess. Angry boycotts and brand backlash can be either "quite right" or "hate filled thickos" depending on whether or not one happens to agree with the basis for the backlash. It's fascinating stuff.

Note: I'm not condoning their behaviour I just find it tough to watch people suddenly condemning the sort of mob-rabble behaviour they've been celebrating in another context for years :idc:. It's either moronic and wrong or it isn't.

I basically hate all mob mentality lol

I wasn’t really around for the bud lite stuff but that was just as equally cringe as what’s going on now

[joeysteele]

Are you completely blind to the plight of Jews in this country facing a massive increase in anti-Semitic attacks? British Jews, not Israelis.

As you know, it was I who said that about your dragging in your Jewish friends to a conversation as some kind of proof that you could never, ever say anything anti-Semitic. Dangerous words indeed... when people imagine that claiming Jewish friends gives them some kind of pass to express themselves as if they had some inside knowledge. Aren't your Jewish friends scared? I can tell you most of the Jews I know are kind of nervous, at the very least, about how things are going to pan out.

I'm pretty sure you're not anti-Semitic. I'm also pretty sure that you're not 100% clear on what anti-Semitism is.



I will be at the Cenotaph next Sunday as I am every year, with my late first husband's friends. If people touch the cenotaph they'd better hope the police get to them first.


Many of my family will be at the Cenotaph and other memorials too across the UK as I will be too.
Uncles of mine were lost in the 2nd world war.
We remember them even though I myself didn't know them.
No one has a monopoly on that.

So I need no lectures on that.

I am fully aware of what real antisemitism is.
I abhor it and always will.
Ever since it was first explained to me by my Grandparents and Parents.
Then all I learned myself about it.

However people using antisemitism wild accusations against those who don't agree with all of the Israeli government's actions.
That's not antisemitism.
Just because people have been appalled at both the Hamas evil act of October 7th and endless many more before that against Israeli citizens.
Then too are appalled at all what is going on now by Israel.

That is not antisemitism.
That is simply not agreeing with the full response from Israel still continuing 4 weeks on.
While still fully against Hamas and their evil acts.
Which are not the ordinary Palestinian people's fault.

I have endlessly defended Israel and still do.
I cannot begin to imagine the fear and insecurity of being in that region for Israel.
Facing so many evil terrorist groups.

I am conflicted however by the slaughter of the ordinary Palestinians.by Israel.
However Israel must be supported in getting rid of Hamas.
I have never altered my view on that.

I actually think the so called allies of Israel,the UK included, have failed to really set out an at least more secure plan for the 2 Nation hope.
Not kept that process going with real determination.
Thereby leaving the insecurities in place and failing both Isrseli citizens and Palestinian citizens who also want a lasting peace.

Incitive and divisive rhetoric plus firing wild accusations of antisemitism to others who in no way are.
None of that will help ease any rising tensions of both sides.

As a footnote Livia, since you asked.
The Jewish families who I know are concerned yes.
Some of the members of those families however, have been since Benjamin Natanyahu was elected again.
They don't trust him.

You may well dismiss that, however I have come across those from both Jewish and Palestinian identity working jointly for and hoping for a coming together and not more division rising.

It really should be a disgrace for the world.
Particularly for me as to the USA, the UK and Europe.
Who like to stick their nose into Middle East conflicts.
That after all this time there is still no lasting settlement of this issue between Israel and Palestine and some peace in place.

Now as to yourself Livia.
I do and have bowed a lot to your knowledge of that area.
As I've never been.
I know you care deeply.
There are many times in past years on here when you have reinforced my own view of Israel.
Plus have guided me on it too many times.
I always have acknowledged that.

I always respect the gaining of knowledge from someone who knows that area of the Middle East like yourself.
Your first lines are strong and I wish it wasn't so that any British Jews should be fearing anything in the UK
I have no doubt you are right.

Other than discussions and learning from you on here in the past.
Plus yes, my own from childhood Jewish friends .
I also engaged a lot with a superb Jewish Doctor as a teen and into my early 20s who had been connected to the board of deputies in the past.
Sadly he died in 2019 aged 92.
A brilliant and wise man.
Who I learned so much from too.

I just think Israel, and Palestine have been failed by the World .
With 2 entrenched hostile feelings between those ,2 Nations
They are unlikely to solve this issue alone
So called allies need to work more tirelessly to help any peace process between Israel and Palestine.
Certainly and no doubt, Hamas has to be got rid of.
Plus other terrorist groups who would still seek to threaten any kind of peace between Israel and Palestine.

My apologies for this being so long.
I read your response to me.
With interest because it's important to you is this issue.
I've tried in my usual long delivery way to put my own feelings and points on this desperately sad situation now raging in that area of the Middle East.
Thank you for your response.

[Cherie]

That's weird no one seemed bothered by the Bud Light boycott, or the backlash against any of the other brand/product caught up in the trans debate :think:.

Another case of whatever happens to suit on the day I guess. Angry boycotts and brand backlash can be either "quite right" or "hate filled thickos" depending on whether or not one happens to agree with the basis for the backlash. It's fascinating stuff.

Note: I'm not condoning their behaviour I just find it tough to watch people suddenly condemning the sort of mob-rabble behaviour they've been celebrating in another context for years :idc:. It's either moronic and wrong or it isn't.

Aw you find it tough do you, bless, I don't believe I commented on the Bud light issue either in a positive or negative way also its a false equivalence as some McDonalds are franchises so are more or less private business owners who just use the McDonalds brand, saying you don't condone this behaviour is the same as starting a sentence with 'no offence but'

[Cherie]

btw SB where are the videos of consumers being abused for drinking bud light at a restaurant, perhaps you can provide them

[Oliver_W]

btw SB where are the videos of consumers being abused for drinking bud light at a restaurant, perhaps you can provide them

That's all you needed to say tbh.

We've got to the point where not all boycotts are equal :laugh:

[Cherie]

That's all you needed to say tbh.

We've got to the point where not all boycotts are equal :laugh:

The thing about the McDonalds boycott is that this can happen in any city or town so any family anywhere can be abused for going for a burger, its not something that will be confined to London and can cause issues anywhere even from high perches in Scotland

[Crimson Dynamo]

Suella is spot on. what a woman

:clap1:

[Ninastar]

:umm2:

What?

[bots]

btw SB where are the videos of consumers being abused for drinking bud light at a restaurant, perhaps you can provide them

make that children

[Crimson Dynamo]

What?

nothing, i mis-posted

:love:

[Ninastar]

nothing, i mis-posted

:love:

I was really trying to figure out what I said that was so bad lol

[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/palbint/status/1721008124146942328?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

[user104658]

btw SB where are the videos of consumers being abused for drinking bud light at a restaurant, perhaps you can provide them

That's all you needed to say tbh.

We've got to the point where not all boycotts are equal :laugh:

That's not even close to the point and at no point did I say they were "equal" - I said that if you encourage and celebrate hive-think and "mob justice" on the one hand it's hard to take it seriously when you turn around and condemn it on the other, when the focus no longer suits. The "go woke go broke" mantra has been tooted all over this forum for years gleefully.

[arista]

https://twitter.com/palbint/status/1721008124146942328?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ


Liam
No one can have any kind of poster
there on that Pavement.


It's like it was all done for a few seconds
for the cops to remove them.


That's not ripping them off a wall.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/58E0/production/_131625722_the-sun-front-page-06.11.23.png-nc.png.webp

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[The i says
the UK's national security council
is "not prepared for heightened terror threat"
due to the Israel-Gaza conflict.
The paper says five serving and
ex-intelligence sources say under-resourcing,
and disruption caused by the repeated
changes of prime minister over
the last year, has left it "reactionary"
to threats it should prepare for.]

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[arista]

BBC News Text:
[A British surgeon who was trapped in Gaza.
"Saving lives in hell" is the headline,
as he praises the
"selfless courage of medics"
trying to help people amid
the horrors of war.]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/DDB0/production/_131625765_mirror0611.png-nc.png.webp

[arista]

Ch4HDnews
Yesterday, started with a New "Hamas military video"
it showed a Israel Armoured Truck.
They added a Love Hart Graphic above it.

Then Fired a Rocket Launcher Missile at it
Hitting the Truck.
Ch4HDnews could not say
what happened to the Israeli troops


This is the Problem
of fighting on the ground

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/F520/production/_131625726_ft0611.png-nc.png.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/58E0/production/_131625722_the-sun-front-page-06.11.23.png-nc.png.webp

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Boris Johnson in Israel
soon to have a new show on GBnewsHD.

Spoke exclusively to Mark White
reporting from Israel.

[Cherie]

That's not even close to the point and at no point did I say they were "equal" - I said that if you encourage and celebrate hive-think and "mob justice" on the one hand it's hard to take it seriously when you turn around and condemn it on the other, when the focus no longer suits. The "go woke go broke" mantra has been tooted all over this forum for years gleefully.

Again seeing as you originally responded to my post I have never said this....but carry on grouping everyone together while moaning about hive think lol

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

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FFS :facepalm: "They'll someday recognise the greater enemy within"...? The irony in this rhetoric is painful :idc:.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

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For those who don't want to watch the video but also don't want to fall victim to some absolutely wild propaganda:

The video does not show anyone being stopped from going anywhere. It shows two middle aged+ white blokes stood observing some chanting protestors, with no one at all in front of them, not being blocked or impeded in any way. One of them then walks down a few steps and assaults a protestor, without any physical provocation whatsoever.

How ON EARTH is this being framed as those men being victims.

Well I say how on earth. I know exactly "how on earth".

[Crimson Dynamo]

People have had enough

[user104658]

People have had enough

Old gammons on the London underground who have been mildly inconvenienced:
"People have had enough and that justifies responding with violence."

Middle Eastern countries that have been exploited and oppressed for decades:
"Nothing justifies responding with violence."


Whatever suits on the day

[Crimson Dynamo]

Old gammons on the London underground who have been mildly inconvenienced:
"People have had enough and that justifies responding with violence."

Middle Eastern countries that have been exploited and oppressed for decades:
"Nothing justifies responding with violence."


Whatever suits on the day

calling people names may make you feel superior but it convinces no one

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Liam-]

https://twitter.com/arifcrafiq/status/1721258414448222677?s=46&t=-V1HH0UJyce-tDsLnymASQ

Israel basically controlling what can and can’t be reported of their atrocities in Gaza, yet people want to say it’s not a fascist state?

[Cherie]

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what has KFC done

[Crimson Dynamo]

what has KFC done

To be fair their chips are rank rotten

[arista]

what has KFC done


Nothing

A Very Easy Target.

[bots]

Do you think it's just the usual corporate protesters carrying Palestinian flags? It's a bit suspicious

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[bots]

Oh come on, those are thugs spoiling for a fight

[Crimson Dynamo]

Oh come on, those are thugs spoiling for a fight

thugs?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Scottish FM quoting hamas propaganda again today

the man is a disgusting human being

[bots]

thugs?

yes, thugs

[Cherie]

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I dont see poppies :suspect:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I dont see poppies :suspect:

taken off for fear of their lives by an aggressive muslim mob

poor guys

[Alf]

1721254733355135286?s=20If they come for the pork pies, then it's on.

[user104658]

calling people names may make you feel superior but it convinces no one

I'm categorically not trying to "convince you" of anything - you haven't made one sincere post in this entire thread.

[arista]

Already
Muslim arrests there

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F-QB1rzX0AA4PCQ?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-fd547527-8287-4780-a37b-0861c0572250.png

[arista]

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[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-9c02d6e5-6cbf-497e-ae0c-3c9f516f54b7.jpeg

[Ninastar]

Elderly Jewish man killed at event in California…

****ing horrific

[Nicky91]

Elderly Jewish man killed at event in California…

****ing horrific

irrelevant to this topic



just post about things happening in Israel or in Gaza


otherwise create a new thread

[Crimson Dynamo]

irrelevant to this topic



just post about things happening in Israel or in Gaza


otherwise create a new thread

it was at a pro Hamas and pro Israel rally that is directly related to this thread and topic

[Nicky91]

it was at a pro Hamas and pro Israel rally that is directly related to this thread and topic

fair enough, and the stupid moronic news media's calling it ''pro-palestine'' protester


putting more oil to the fire, since this suspect clearly isn't pro palestinian people, but more indeed on Hamas their side




you have a difference between those who are pro-hamas (vile thugs) and peaceful pro-palestine protesters



but if those idiot journalists don't know the difference, shows how biased they are up Netanyahu's arse

[Ninastar]

irrelevant to this topic



just post about things happening in Israel or in Gaza


otherwise create a new thread

Wow, you have some super splendid priorities

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

"The dominant voting group has had enough of the whinging of minority elements so just shut up and stop protesting"

Another democracy death-rattle in favor of majority rule, justified because the politically ignorant believe them to be the same thing.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/07/10/77497583-12720035-image-a-14_1699354057998.jpg

[user104658]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/07/10/77497583-12720035-image-a-14_1699354057998.jpg

11/11/.....11?

LT on his way to this National Front call-to-arms

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[Cherie]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/07/10/77497583-12720035-image-a-14_1699354057998.jpg

to do what exactly :suspect:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its just another excuse for the far left socialist workers party to hate on the UK and its people

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/07/11/77498441-12720035-image-a-20_1699355118250.jpg

[Crimson Dynamo]

to do what exactly :suspect:

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[user104658]

to do what exactly :suspect:

If you can't be bothered watching the video explanation posted, the tl;dr answer is (somewhat unsurprisingly):

"EDL race war stuff".

[bots]

the only reason Robinson wants to be there at the weekend is to stoke trouble

I can't believe english nationalists are being promoted on this thread by a scotsman no less

[user104658]

the only reason Robinson wants to be there at the weekend is to stoke trouble

I can't believe english nationalists are being promoted on this thread by a scotsman no less

Since Brexit, Rangers fans wave the Union Flag, not the Saltire. In fact I've seen quite a few of the more openly sectarian Rangers fans with the St George Cross all over their facebook pages in recent months. Strange, strange times indeed.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[user104658]

The fact that Tommo Robbo had to put a "no walking down the streets shouting with a can of beer" disclaimer at the end of his own video because he knows fine well who his tribe are :facepalm:.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the only reason Robinson wants to be there at the weekend is to stoke trouble



and what is this clown doing?

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Livia]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but in Hebrew, Hamas means 'violence'.

[Oliver_W]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but in Hebrew, Hamas means 'violence'.

Well that's pretty much their entire charter, so makes sense.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but in Hebrew, Hamas means 'violence'.

Or if you are on far left - "Bandwagon"

[user104658]

Is it that difficult to understand that being against the actions being taken by Israel and being condoned by Western governments is not in any way, shape or form the same thing as being "pro-Hamas" ... or even "pro-Palestine"?

Of course that's a rhetorical question; I know that it's not hard to understand and that those pretending not to understand are (as usual) playing the entirely disingenuous dumb/incredulous card.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

The Israel Leader
will stop all attacks
if they release all the hostages.

Just Live on SkyNewsHD


That's a good deal.

[Crimson Dynamo]

This terror attack has really shown up the lowest forms of far-left people who walk this earth

shameful :bored:

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[Cherie]

The Israel Leader
will stop all attacks
if they release all the hostages.

Just Live on SkyNewsHD


That's a good deal.

Over to baby roasting Hamas

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

[Rochdale Cenotaph vandalised by pro-Palestine extremists.]

https://twitter.com/TPointUK/status/1721957991409148043

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Alf]

Well we all know that they have the capability to stop them protesting unique occasions if they want to. Just check any Royal event. The last one was the Queens funeral.

So if anything does happen, then you know that it's purposely been allowed to.

[bots]

Well we all know that they have the capability to stop them protesting unique occasions if they want to. Just check any Royal event. The last one was the Queens funeral.

So if anything does happen, then you know that it's purposely been allowed to.

the vast majority of the crowd at royal events are passive onlookers, thats not the same as an aggressive march

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

Yes, LT
look at these Protestors, yesterday
attacking a poppy seller.

There will be Hate Protestors
Among the crowd on Sunday.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Oliver_W]

I don't have speakers on, what's TR saying?


Anyway, people wanting protest marches banned are a bit baffling. Like, of course on no account should they be allowed to desecrate monuments or turn violent, but wanting to stop marches all together?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I don't have speakers on, what's TR saying?


Anyway, people wanting protest marches banned are a bit baffling. Like, of course on no account should they be allowed to desecrate monuments or turn violent, but wanting to stop marches all together?

No one is talking about banning, just not allowing some on certain days

But if this hate march starts with the inevitable anti-semitism then they need to ban this type of hate march organized by terrorism supporting organizers and extreme left agitators

[user104658]

I don't have speakers on, what's TR saying?


Anyway, people wanting protest marches banned are a bit baffling. Like, of course on no account should they be allowed to desecrate monuments or turn violent, but wanting to stop marches all together?


"Real British Men will attend to defend the events and must be respectful unless anyone tries anything in which case they can get violent to defend British People on a Sacred British Day cos that's what REAL MEN do."

That's the gist of it. So the headline is, in a shock to no one, he's stirring up white nationalist violence and doing a half-arsed job of pretending that he isn't by offering a few platitudes.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The pro-Hamas march will be 3 miles away so if any turn up near the Cenotaph at the weekend then they will be the ones looking for bother

no one else

[user104658]

The pro-Hamas march will be 3 miles away so if any turn up near the Cenotaph at the weekend then they will be the ones looking for bother

no one else

Well yes them and the beer-swilling yobs desperately hoping they do turn up so that they have an excuse to start kicking off.

Don't play the naive wee sweetie LT - you know exactly how it works. These lads aren't sat with their fingers and toes crossed that it all goes peacefully. They want a scuffle. That's the sole reason they've rolled out of bed.

[arista]

Ch4HDnews showed around
15,000 public walking South
from Gaza.

All now Displaced.


In Gaza City
the IDF are closing in.


The Ch4 Reporter was then,in Gaza
but had to leave the zone he was in,
as Hamas were Shooting at the IDF.


The Reporter did not have a cameraman
he had to the Camera filming himself.

[Oliver_W]

Well yes them and the beer-swilling yobs desperately hoping they do turn up so that they have an excuse to start kicking off.

Don't play the naive wee sweetie LT - you know exactly how it works. These lads aren't sat with their fingers and toes crossed that it all goes peacefully. They want a scuffle. That's the sole reason they've rolled out of bed.

tbf if any of the protest does go out of their way to go there, their intentions are clear.

Let's just hope Robinson's crowd doesn't have anything to celebrate stop.

[Crimson Dynamo]

tbf if any of the protest does go out of their way to go there, their intentions are clear.

Let's just hope Robinson's crowd doesn't have anything to celebrate stop.

Robinson's crowd?:shrug:

that seems a little "ism"

[Oliver_W]

Robinson's crowd?:shrug:

that seems a little "ism"

I'm sorry you feel that way:)

If they're there with/because of him, they kind of are his crowd?

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm sorry you feel that way:)

If they're there with/because of him, they kind of are his crowd?

that is not true

unless you can back your statement UP?

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

:whistle:

Senior NHS doctor leaves his job days after posting
anti-semitic comments
online in the wake of the Israel-Gaza crisis

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2023/11/08/17/77567103-12726265-image-a-1_1699466086384.jpg

Screenshots widely circulated online show that three days after the disgusting terrorism Hamas
massacre of Israeli civilians, Dr. Sen posted a statement in German that
translated to 'the Jews are our misfortune.'

In a second comment on Facebook, Dr Sen apparently referred to another
account user as 'Jew boy.'


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12726265/Senior-NHS-doctor-leaves-job-anti-semitic-comments-Israel-Gaza.html

[arista]

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[bots]

the events better go off peacefully at the weekend or the poop is really going to hit the fan

[arista]

At the End Owen
tells Sophie, he does not drink in the week.

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1722538045931434305

[user104658]

I'm sorry you feel that way:)

If they're there with/because of him, they kind of are his crowd?

Of course they're his crowd - Tommo knows that himself, he spends the first half of both videos encouraging his footie yob/skinhead followers to come along... and the second half pleading with them not to get drunk and kick off (because he knows fine well that that's what they're inclined to do). Why would he be making pleas for them not to bring beer and go off the designated route to pick fights if he didn't think his followers would do exactly that :joker:

[Liam-]

So the daily mail and the tories spread this story of an elderly poppy seller getting assault by marchers now after an investigation there’s been no evidence found to verify that story at all, I am thoroughly shocked that the government and their pals in the media would lie about something like this

[bots]

Of course they're his crowd - Tommo knows that himself, he spends the first half of both videos encouraging his footie yob/skinhead followers to come along... and the second half pleading with them not to get drunk and kick off (because he knows fine well that that's what they're inclined to do). Why would he be making pleas for them not to bring beer and go off the designated route to pick fights if he didn't think his followers would do exactly that :joker:

it's like Sunak saying he didnt sanction Bravermans article on the police. He appointed her, he knows what she does

[Stu]

Pretend buddhist and noted comedy villain Braverman intentionally stoking culture wars? Say it ain't so.