Russian Invasion of the Ukraine - The Official WW3 Thread

[arista]

Yesterday
Power was cut,
as Russian Missiles hit their main Power Station area.

Ref: ITV1HDnews

[Sticks]

All because Zelensky refuses to surrender to the actual president of Ukraine, Putin

He should listen to the Pope who says they should surrender.

[arista]

All because Zelensky refuses to surrender to the actual president of Ukraine, Putin

He should listen to the Pope who says they should surrender.


Of course, he will not
other nations are supplying him with weapons.

If the Supply stops
then he will be in trouble

[Beso]

Something big has kicked off in Russia. Many gunmen on the loose.

[arista]

Something big has kicked off in Russia. Many gunmen on the loose.


Yes Internal
not to do with Ukraine

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJWTLbxWkAA9OQJ?format=jpg&name=small

Putin has changed how he speaks of Ukraine
he has now called this the War.

Pointed out on Trevor Phillips
Panel, SkyNewsHD today.

[Zizu]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GJWTLbxWkAA9OQJ?format=jpg&name=small

Putin has changed how he speaks of Ukraine
he has now called this the War.

Pointed out on Trevor Phillips
Panel, SkyNewsHD today.


So do the Russian people know the truth now .. that Putin attacked the Ukraine without provocation ??

I seem to recall him telling his country that they were defending their country from Ukraine attacks


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[arista]

So do the Russian people know the truth now .. that Putin attacked the Ukraine without provocation ??

I seem to recall him telling his country that they were defending their country from Ukraine attacks





No.
The public must obey Putin
or else..............

He Lies all the time
but it is for his massive Russian Nation.


He is happy to tell the public the 4 Terrorists
are connected to Ukraine,

But the Utter Truth is Russia Bombed Syria
killing thousands of Muslims
in a deal with Bashar al-Assad corrupt leader

Those 4 Terrorists got revenge for Syria.

[Zizu]

No.
The public must obey Putin
or else..............

He Lies all the time
but it is for his massive Russian Nation.


He is happy to tell the public the 4 Terrorists
are connected to Ukraine,

But the Utter Truth is Russia Bombed Syria
killing thousands of Muslims
in a deal with their corrupt leader

Those 4 Terrorists got revenge for Syria.


Yes we know he’s a compulsive liar but what do the Russian people think nowadays ?

Do they know the truth ?


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[arista]

Yes we know he’s a compulsive liar but what do the Russian people think nowadays ?

Do they know the truth ?





No, it has been reported many old Russians
do not know the truth.

But some young Russians use Social Media
so they do.

[arista]

Another 57 Russian Missiles
hit the Ukraine City.

Some locals stayed in the train underground
overnight

Ref: France24HD news Live

[Sticks]

Yes Internal
not to do with Ukraine


Oh yes it is, the four Ukrainian mercenaries were apprehended near the Ukrainian boarder.

Claims that it was Islamic state are not credible, because the US said it was IS, and we know the US are liars.

This atrocity was the work of that war criminal and terrorist Zelensky

And if anyone disagrees, prepare to be Novochucked, and you know he will do it as he has done it before.

[Sticks]

Another 57 Russian Missiles
hit the Ukraine City.

Some locals stayed in the train underground
overnight

Ref: France24HD news Live

Justified response for Zelensky's terrorist atrocity in Moscow. IS my foot, it was Ukrainian mercs working for Zelensky.Has to be.

And if anyone disagrees, prepare to be Novochucked, and you know he will do it as he has done it before.

[arista]

Justified response for Zelensky's terrorist atrocity in Moscow. IS my foot, it was Ukrainian mercs working for Zelensky.Has to be.

And if anyone disagrees, prepare to be Novochucked, and you know he will do it as he has done it before.

Do not be silly.

Russia Attacked from the air and Killed
1000's of Muslims in Syria

Those 4 Terrorists are part of ISIS-K
who travel all over Europe and our UK.

That attack in the Moscow Concert Hall
was Part 1
of their Evil Revenge

ISIS-K are based in Asia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_State_%E2%80%93_Khorasan_Province

[Sticks]

So why were they caught on the border with Ukraine?

[arista]

So why were they caught on the border with Ukraine?


Easy to hide in
if they made it.

[bots]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/3847/production/_132370441_dragonfirenightshot_image01.jpg.webp

A UK high-power laser weapon could be sent to Ukraine to take down Russian drones, the defence secretary says.

According to Grant Shapps, the weapon could have "huge ramifications" for the conflict in Europe.

The DragonFire weapon is expected to be rolled out by 2027, but Mr Shapps said he wanted to "speed up" production and make it available sooner.

It follows a successful trial of the laser, carried out against an aerial target for the first time in January.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68795603

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now that looks really cool!

[arista]

Be good if takes down Russian Drones.

But Russia will send loads at the same time.
Can One Lazer take down more than one
at the same time?

[bots]

Be good if takes down Russian Drones.

But Russia will send loads at the same time.
Can One Lazer take down more than one
at the same time?

they will have multiples of them

[arista]

In the next couple of hours
in the USA, the Republicans are expected to give Ukraine
$ 60 billion worth of arms.

The house speaker
may soon be removed, as a result of this.

[arista]

On Ch4HDnews Live

Lft, Colonel Daniel L. Davis in USA
said the $60 Billion
will not be enough to save Ukraine
due to their lack of manpower..........

He also stated Putin
will not invade the rest of Europe.

[bots]

bill passed in congress

[arista]

Yes
the $61 Billion Ukraine Aid Bill
has been passed.

[Sticks]

It would be cheaper if that Russian Province surrendered to the true ruler, Putin and Zelensky handled over to Moscow to stand trial for High Treason

[UserSince2005]

61 billion! Oh those Russian troops are going to be even more obliterated. I heard over 50k had died so far. Gonna be 100 thousand soon Poor sods

[arista]

Not Good News
Russia is winning.

[arista]

PM Sunak
in Poland has announced £500Million
Military Aid for Ukraine.

A lot of our cash.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GL1_COGWEAAnFG2?format=jpg&name=small


PM Sunak taking questions
from an over large press group
as he flew early today to Poland

[bots]

it's an extra 500m, that puts us at 3 billion to them this year

[arista]

PM Sunak now Live in Poland

All media


He starts today with Defence Spending to 2.5%.

British jobs in Bolton & Northern Ireland
to get a massive increase

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/04/23/14/83987519-13340313-image-a-5_1713880179514.jpg

[Sticks]

Not Good News
Russia is winning.

Why is that bad news

As Canada found out, Ukraine is the last bastion of the Nazi party, when the Canadian parliament inadvertently honoured a former Nazi Ukrainian soldier

It is a rebellious province of Mother Russia

Zelensky is a war criminal who would not allow people to surrender to their true leader Putin, because he valued his ego more.

If this Russian province had been allowed to surrender, then all this death could have been avoided.

Remember don't upset Putin or you may be Novochuked, and you know he will do it, as he has done it before with impunity. Or how about some nice Polonium 2-10 tea?

[arista]

"Why is that bad news"

For the Ukrainian puplic
it is bad news that
Russia is winning

[arista]

[Remember don't upset Putin or you may be Novochuked]

No Sticks
Russian Putin is Evil.

He must be Killed

[Sticks]

And who's to say that someone worse could arise if Putin was killed?

[arista]

And who's to say that someone worse could arise if Putin was killed?


No,
that are no worse than soon-to-be-dead Putin

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/04/23/12/83981133-0-image-a-16_1713870478936.jpg


The three arrived in Poland
early this morning


All for the Ukraine boost.

[arista]

£75Billion Investing in UK Defence over the next 6 years.

But there is a General Election
by Jan 2025.

So will Labour halt this mega cash?

[bots]

£75Billion Investing in UK Defence over the next 6 years.

But there is a General Election
by Jan 2025.

So will Labour halt this mega cash?

no, they have said they may even put more into it, these are very dangerous times.

There is even talk about installing an iron dome across the whole of the uk

[arista]

Biden now Live

All Media

He is Proud to say Ukraine is getting American-made
missiles.


He did not have any time to talk to press.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8695fc3b-7cb1-4205-a461-5bccd07a41b6.png

[arista]

Russia has taken many towns
in Ukraine.

Russian troops are 10 to 1

So Ukraine has to pull back,
or die.


Miltary Expert
talking on SkyNewsHD

[arista]

[Ukraine's commander-in-chief has said
the situation on the frontline has worsened
in the face of multiple Russian attacks.

Oleksandr Syrskyi said Ukrainian forces
had withdrawn from positions in the
eastern Donetsk region.

Russia is trying to take advantage of
its superiority in manpower and
artillery before Ukrainian forces get
much-needed supplies of new US weapons.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-68916317

[Nicky91]

no, they have said they may even put more into it, these are very dangerous times.

There is even talk about installing an iron dome across the whole of the uk

UK is never in danger of getting attacked though, stop being a bunch of dramaqueens jeez :rolleyes: :joker:

[bots]

The Duchess of Edinburgh has become the first member of the Royal Family to visit Ukraine since the Russian invasion.

On Monday she went on a one-day visit, on behalf of the Foreign Office, to "demonstrate solidarity with the women, men and children impacted by the war".

The duchess paid her respects to those who had lost their lives in the town of Bucha during the Russian occupation.

There was also a meeting with Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky.

The Royal Family has been unusually outspoken in its support of Ukraine, with King Charles marking the second anniversary of the invasion in February by warning of the "indescribable aggression" and the "unprovoked attack" by Russia.

On his state visits to France and Germany the King had spoken of the importance of supporting Ukraine - and the sympathies of his late mother, Queen Elizabeth II, had been suggested when she appeared beside a big bowl of flowers in Ukrainian national colours.

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Brave lady. Respect

[arista]

On Friday Russia sent in more missiles
their troops have taken over 5 Villages.

SkyNewsHD has a good reporter Deborah Haynes Live in Ukraine

[Moscow's forces captured five villages in a
renewed ground assault in northeastern Ukraine,
the Russian Ministry of Defence has said,
as journalists in the city of Vovchansk described
multiple buildings destroyed after the Russian
air raids.]

15 hours ago

[arista]

Ch4HDnews
shows Russia is now advancing forward
with 9 villages now taken over by Russian troops.

[DemRed]

No.
The public must obey Putin
or else..............

He Lies all the time
but it is for his massive Russian Nation.


He is happy to tell the public the 4 Terrorists
are connected to Ukraine,

But the Utter Truth is Russia Bombed Syria
killing thousands of Muslims
in a deal with Bashar al-Assad corrupt leader

Those 4 Terrorists got revenge for Syria.

I can tell you get your news from MSM

Prior to Russia entering Syria, America killed thousands of Muslim civilians

[arista]

I can tell you get your news from MSM

Prior to Russia entering Syria, America killed thousands of Muslim civilians


Not me
I use many news on TV including
SkyNewsHD
CNN HD
Sad BBC
Ch4HDnews
Al Jareeza HD
France 24HD
Newsnight BBC2HD


Also FoxNewsHD Online only


Also

"America killed thousands of Muslim civilians"

what year are you talking about?

[DemRed]

On reading this thread, it appears that quite a few contributors are thinking about Russia how it was in the 90s.
Non of us are really privy to what's going on in Russia and you can't rely on British or US media because its heavily infiltrated by counter-intelligence and the Israeli Lobby.

Whilst England and France exercise their tactical nuclear forces, the Russians have made it clear (Putin went public) that it won't only take out threats in the Ukraine, but will seek out threats from sources to the Ukraine up to and including the territories of those countries involved. In other words, Biden, Macron and Sunak are leading us towards a 3rd w.orld war

Russia sees much of Europe and the US as corrupt imperialist agitators and Trump won't be funding the Ukraine if he gets in at the next election. If I was American, I'd be voting for Trump.

[DemRed]

Not me
I use many news on TV including
SkyNewsHD
CNN HD
Sad BBC
Ch4HDnews
Al Jareeza HD
France 24HD
Newsnight BBC2HD


Also FoxNewsHD Online only


Also

"America killed thousands of Muslim civilians"

what year are you talking about?

Your news reading... all but one are main stream media. A media that is controlled to be one sided.

[Beso]

That's like blaming the kids, a bully hit, for the bully hitting them.

[arista]

Your news reading... all but one are main stream media. A media that is controlled to be one sided.

What year are you speaking about?


"America killed thousands of Muslim civilians"

[DemRed]

What year are you speaking about?


"America killed thousands of Muslim civilians"

If I was to go through the list it would take me all evening. I was though, talking about the Americans going into Syria. They went in as peace keepers but really it was about retaining geopolitical influence.
The airstrikes that took place by the U.S caused a lot of civilian death.
The USA does not and never has had direct authorization from either the United Nations or the government of Syria to be on that land

[arista]

If I was to go through the list it would take me all evening. I was though, talking about the Americans going into Syria. They went in as peace keepers but really it was about retaining geopolitical influence.
The airstrikes that took place by the U.S caused a lot of civilian death.
The USA does not and never has had direct authorization from either the United Nations or the government of Syria to be on that land


Is it hard for you to add the Year
this went down?

[arista]

LBC Live Debate:
what if Russia wins?

Some Zones in Ukraine,
have run out of effective weapons?

[bots]

i've been saying for months that we need to be more involved in the war. Putin will always use nukes as a threat whether we are involved or not

[arista]

Russian Jets are shooting glide bombs
that are now getting through
any Ukraine defenses

Ref: Times Reporter speaking on times radio DAB

[bots]

Russian Jets are shooting glide bombs
that are now getting through
any Ukraine defenses

Ref: Times Reporter speaking on times radio DAB

that's not strictly true. They are having to use those bombs now because their aircraft are being shot down with the newly arrived patriot missiles

[arista]

i've been saying for months that we need to be more involved in the war. Putin will always use nukes as a threat whether we are involved or not

Yes but the USA Republicans
did not care what anyone said

[arista]

that's not strictly true. They are having to use those bombs now because their aircraft are being shot down with the newly arrived patriot missiles


Yes Ukraine is lucky to have them


But that Reporter had been in Ukraine
he is saying they are fired from Russia
avoiding being hit

[bots]

Russia have been repelled from Kharkiv and are now saying they never intended to take it :laugh:

[Sticks]

Ukraine should listen to the Pope and have the courage to surrender to the real leader of Ukraine, Putin, as it is part of Mother Russia

[arista]

Ukraine should listen to the Pope and have the courage to surrender to the real leader of Ukraine, Putin, as it is part of Mother Russia


No Ukraine is fighting to its death.


This War keeps going

[Sticks]

No Ukraine is fighting to its death.


This War keeps going

Only because that third rate failed comedian war criminal with a huge ego, Zelensky refused to allow his people to surrender.

[bots]

Russia took an absolute whipping yesterday. Apart from their pasting in Kharkiv, ukraine sent 100 drones into russia and knocked out key infrastructure

[arista]

Ch4HDnews
yesterday showed many locals are still being removed

Also, Zelensky is now letting Prisoners out to Serve
due the lack of new troops

[arista]

Putin also stated he does not want Kharkiv,
while he is in China

[bots]

Putin also stated he does not want Kharkiv,
while he is in China


he had to say that after he got his ass whipped

[Alf]

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[arista]

A Horrid old Russian Glide Bomb
was shown on the damage it does Live in Ukraine

Fired from Russia,
Ukraine can not stop them.


BBC1 AM

[Sticks]

Of course they can. All they have to do is surrender to their true ruler, Putin and hand that war criminal Zelensky to Russia for trial on the charge of High Treason.

[arista]

[Russian Strike On Ukrainian Store Kills At least 14,
Dozens Injured The death toll from a
Russian strike on a crowded hardware store in Kharkiv
has gone up, Ukrainian officials
said on May 26.]

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2024/05/31/netherlands-working-plan-prevent-russian-sabotage-north-sea


The outgoing Cabinet is working on a strategy to prevent Russian sabotage in the North Sea. The involved Ministers are speeding up that work at parliamentarians’ request. During a debate in the Tweede Kamer on Thursday, several parties raised their concerns about Russia’s potential to paralyze the Dutch economy and society with sabotage, NOS reports.

A few weeks ago, European intelligence services warned their governments that Russia was planning violent sabotage actions in Europe. Journalists in Denmark, Norway, Sweden, and Finland investigated and found indications that Russia was planning to attack Western gas pipelines, electricity, and internet cables on the seabed. Russian ships have been spotted near such Dutch infrastructure in the North Sea.

VVD parliamentarian Silvio Erkens wanted to know how Russian boats are able to “moor in our ports” and “sail laps at their leisure on our vulnerable North Sea and inspect our infrastructure.” D66 parliamentarian Jan Paternotte also wanted an explanation for how Russian ships could get so close to pipes and cables that are essential to the Dutch economy.

Outgoing Defense Minister Kajsa Ollongren assured the MPs that the security services were “closely monitoring” the ships. Outgoing Security and Justice Minister Dilan Yeşilgöz added that the security services are “very broadly” mapping out the risks.

The Ministers planned to have their strategy against Russian sabotage on the North Sea ready after the summer, but they have now accelerated the process at the request of MP Erkens and others. The government will share some of the plans publicly, but implementation details will remain confidential for security reasons.

With the upcoming Cabinet change, the new Cabinet, consisting of PVV, VVD, NSC, and BBB, will be responsible for elaborating the strategy. The PVV has been known for its pro-Russian stances in the past.

.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/11e4/live/532a6020-1f9c-11ef-baa7-25d483663b8e.jpg.webp

[Sticks]

Just surrender and stop the bloodshed

[arista]

Just surrender and stop the bloodshed

They Won't

[arista]

Zelensky is now in Singapore

[arista]

From CNN HD USA on UK TV

Zelensky in Singapore
wanted to meet Chinese Officials
but none of them would meet him.


They showed a clip of him talking
he gets Angry at any nation
that tells him what to do.


He thanked Biden for the weapons

[arista]

Trump just stated
he would get Putin & Zelensky
in a room.


I doubt that

[Sticks]

So Trump can tell Zelensky that Putin is the real leader of the Russian Province of Ukraine?

[arista]

So Trump can tell Zelensky that Putin is the real leader of the Russian Province of Ukraine?


That's if he becomes
The new USA President Nov 5th 2024


He did not say what they would talk about.

[arista]

Last night
Putin's Russian Missiles killed 9 people.
And hit Zelenskys town, hitting
a tower block.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cv22kzp0m0zo

[DemRed]

Times are getting worrying

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[bots]

that video is absolute nonsense, it's also very old in its content

[DemRed]

that video is absolute nonsense, it's also very old in its content

I have a huge amount of respect for Douglas Macgregor, you obviously don't.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GQqHgSqWcAAWja8?format=jpg&name=small

[Crimson Dynamo]

this is pretty scary

video here: https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1805638107896730076

CCTV Footage from June 23rd has been released showing the Interception, by
Russian Air Defenses near Sevastopol in Western Crimea, of a Ukrainian MGM-
140 ATACMS Tactical-Ballistic Missile equipped with a Cluster-Munition Warhead
that was likely attempting to Strike at Belbek Military Airfield to the North of the
City. The Interception of the Missile appears to have released a Majority of
Bomblets inside of the ATACMS Warhead over the Water and a nearby Beach,
resulting in the Death of 4 Civilians and Injury of over 150.

[bots]

this is pretty scary

video here: https://x.com/sentdefender/status/1805638107896730076

CCTV Footage from June 23rd has been released showing the Interception, by
Russian Air Defenses near Sevastopol in Western Crimea, of a Ukrainian MGM-
140 ATACMS Tactical-Ballistic Missile equipped with a Cluster-Munition Warhead
that was likely attempting to Strike at Belbek Military Airfield to the North of the
City. The Interception of the Missile appears to have released a Majority of
Bomblets inside of the ATACMS Warhead over the Water and a nearby Beach,
resulting in the Death of 4 Civilians and Injury of over 150.

that's nothing to what russia has subjected ukranian civilians to. They just carpet bomb cities

[Sticks]

Because Zelensky refuses to surrender to the true leader, Putin, as Ukraine is a Russian province.

[arista]

Evil Putin's Missiles
have hit the Kyiv, Children's Hospital

Many deaths reported


SkyNewsHD Live

[arista]

More than 40 Russian Missiles
Hit the Capital.

Reported so far over 30 Public Killed

[Sticks]

Vain Zelensky refuses to do what the Pope told him to do and surrender to his boss, Putin.

This blood is on Zelensky's hands for his vanity

[arista]

Vain Zelensky refuses to do what the Pope told him to do and surrender to his boss, Putin.

This blood is on Zelensky's hands for his vanity


Evil Putin Murdering Children

[Sticks]

A vain and prideful third rate comedian with an ego who did not allow the people to surrender and would rather see carnage than do what Pope Francis told him to do.

See here - Pope Francis is right about Ukraine (https://unherd.com/newsroom/pope-francis-is-right-about-ukraine/)

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Also leading on defence spending is the Daily Mail,
describing a strike on a children's hospital
in Kyiv on Monday as an "atrocity" - and an example
of "why Britain and Nato must spend
more on defence".
The paper says the summit in Washington will
amplify Ukraine's demands for more
air defence weapons to defend its skies"
from Russian attacks.]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/91bf/live/0c0a0730-3d70-11ef-9e1c-3b4a473456a6.png.webp

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[The Daily Mirror is more direct in its report,
accusing Russian President Vladimir Putin of bombing
"cancer kids" by carrying out the attack.
The attack has sparked global fury,
the paper adds.
Russia has denied targeting the hospital,
saying it was hit by fragments of a
Ukrainian air defence missile,
but Ukraine says it found remnants
of a Russian cruise missile.]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/9105/live/a0661830-3d78-11ef-b74c-bb483a802c97.png.webp



https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/9105/live/a0661830-3d78-11ef-b74c-bb483a802c97.png.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/b98f/live/174d0610-3d70-11ef-96a8-e710c6bfc866.png.webp

[Nicky91]

doubt that children's hospital was an actual target


were any military bases near that hospital? :think:



Putin is quite solid regarding tactics, and he hasn't anything to gain from attacking a children's hospital


sorry if this comes across as me defending Putin, but this more seems like accidental collateral damage


Putin would more attack crucial military installations to gain somewhat of an advantage in this strategic operation

[arista]

Russia Fired Hyper Sonic Missiles
at 3 Hospitals
one full of babies just born.

Russia is Evil.

[Sticks]

Killing women and children is a legitimate military tactic. It was also recorded as being used by the Israelites against a rogue tribe, the Benjamites.

While the men were away, all the women and children of the tribe of Benjamin were put to the sword.

The aim was to demoralise the enemy, and it worked.

This is a legitimate military objective of undermining the morale of the enemy. The Ukrainians should overthrow that jumped up failed third rate comedian with vanity issues and surrender to the true ruler of Ukraine, Vladimir Putin, as Ukraine is a province of Mother Russia.

If anyone says it is an independent country then I declare Arista kink of Jupiter and I am King of Saturn. Please acknowledge our kingships and do us the obeisance our regal status warrants..

Declaring Ukraine independent from Russia is just as valid as me declaring myself King of Saturn and Arista King of Jupiter

[Oliver_W]

It was also recorded as being used by the Israelites against a rogue tribe, the Benjamites.

If you're trying to make an Israel Bad point, try something from after the 6th century BC?

[Sticks]

If you're trying to make an Israel Bad point, try something from after the 6th century BC?

I wasn't

I was referring to military tactics of the past.

The account I was referring to is recorded in the Bible, Judges chapters 20 and 21.

The final verse of the book of Judges is telling
Judges 21:25 In those days Israel had no king; everyone did as they saw fit.

[Oliver_W]

I wasn't

I was referring to military tactics of the past.

The account I was referring to is recorded in the Bible, Judges chapters 20 and 21.

The final verse of the book of Judges is telling
Judges 21:25 In those days Israel had no king; everyone did as they saw fit.

Ah okay, that makes it more relevant.

[Beso]

Russia Fired Hyper Sonic Missiles
at 3 Hospitals
one full of babies just born.

Russia is Evil.

Very true..But unfortunatly free free Ukraine just dont have the same ring to it.

[arista]

The USA will supply Ukraine
more air power


Old President Biden stated at the Nato Conference

[Mystic Mock]

Very true..But unfortunatly free free Ukraine just dont have the same ring to it.

Tbf, you could always just put the Ukraine flag on your Twitter bio, to make yourself look like a good person without having to actually do anything.

Because that is about as much as most modern day protesters achieve these days, because nobody wants to be away from their creature comforts and genuinely have a discussion about what to do with either conflict going on in the world right now, or the Trans topic.

[arista]

16 Fighter Jets are now on the way to Ukraine
from American Supply.


All media

[Sticks]

Assuming they get there

Russia would be totally justified in taking them out before they reach the Russian province of Ukraine

[arista]

Assuming they get there

Russia would be totally justified in taking them out before they reach the Russian province of Ukraine


Yes those Air Fighter Jets
will be in TV news
when they arrive


Russia can Not Attack a USA Ship
or USA flights


Again you are Wrong Sticks

[bots]

the aircraft will be flown in from poland or wherever by ukranian pilots. Russia may shoot them all down, but i highly doubt it, and it's just the first tranche

[arista]

the aircraft will be flown in from poland or wherever by ukranian pilots. Russia may shoot them all down, but i highly doubt it, and it's just the first tranche


Yes
USA F-16 fighter jets
urgently needed in Ukraine.


Biden has agreed

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-2b3a17d1-a593-4a34-a9b5-b4a47286e408.jpeg

[arista]

Ukraine has attacked Russian Terrority


[The Russian Ministry of Defense,
the Russian Investigative Committee
and the Russian Ombudsman for
Children all said Ukrainian forces had
launched a “massive attack” on
Tuesday, attempting to break through
the Russian defenses on the borders
of the Kursk region,
which sits just north of
Ukraine's Sumy region.]

[arista]

Russia hit a Shopping Supermarket
in Ukraine.


[A children's hospital in Kyiv has been hit after
Russia launched a wave of missile strikes
against cities across Ukraine.
Two people died when the Ohmatdyt
Children's Hospital - Ukraine's biggest
paediatrics facility - sustained major damage
during the blast.

Thirty-six people were killed
and 140 people
were injured in the strikes,
President Volodymyr Zelensky's chief
of staff Andriy Yermak said on Monday.
Russia denied targeting the hospital,
saying it had been hit by fragments of a
Ukrainian air defence missile,
while Ukraine said it had found
remnants of a Russian cruise missile.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cl4y1pjk2dzo


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/09/16/88352579-13728221-Vladimir_Putin_s_military_has_responded_with_fury_ to_overnight_s-a-57_1723216480379.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/09/16/88350955-13728221-_Russia_brought_the_war_to_our_land_and_should_fee l_what_it_has_-a-46_1723216480272.jpg


Never-ending war

[Sticks]

Impeach Zelensky NOW!!!

His vanity and ego has caused the deaths of thousands

Ukraine is part of Mother Russia, period

If you claim it is independent, then I am king of Saturn and Arista is King of Jupter. Please acknowledge our kingships of those planets, our regal realms, if you try and continue with the fiction of Ukraine being anything other than part of Mother Russia, as it was during the Soviet era.

[UserSince2005]

Ukrainians sure know how to humiliate the Russians. Even after all the Russian brutalities. Well done Ukraine for never losing your spirit.

[Livia]

Ukrainians sure know how to humiliate the Russians. Even after all the Russian brutalities. Well done Ukraine for never losing your spirit.

Well said.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/10/16/88385415-0-image-m-5_1723304536501.jpg

[arista]

[Russia has evacuated more than 76,000 people
from border areas in the western region
of Kursk as Ukraine continues to push deeper
in its cross-border offensive,
Russian media reported today.

'More than 76,000 people have been
temporarily relocated to safe places,'
the state-run TASS news agency reported,
citing a local official at a press briefing.

Russia appears to have been caught
off guard by a daring incursion into
the southwestern Kursk region,
though Ukraine has stopped short
of formally claiming responsibility.]


This in Not good
Once all have left
Russia can then Bomb that zone
killing all the Ukraine troops fast.

[arista]

Reports

Ukraine wants to stay in that zone of Russia.

So if any USA deals appears
Russia will only get their land back once they
Leave the Ukraine.

[arista]

Ch4HDnews
had a report from Russia, as Ukraine
has taken land over.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/08/11/17/wire-88412163-1723392238-850_634x557.jpg


[Russia on Sunday acknowledged
Ukrainian forces had pierced deep
into the Kursk border region in an
offensive that a top official in Ukraine
said was aimed to "destabilise" Russia
and "stretch" its armed forces.

Kyiv has deployed thousands of troops
to the surprise operation, a Ukrainian
security official told AFP, seizing the battlefield
initiative after months of
slow Russian advances across the east.

"We are on the offensive.
The aim is to stretch the positions of the
enemy, to inflict maximum losses
and to destabilise the situation in Russia
as they are unable to protect their
own border,"
the security official said on condition
of anonymity.]


An Expert doubted they could hold
onto that Russian Zone for a long time..............................


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-13732629/Thousands-Ukrainian-troops-incursion-destabilise-Russia-official.html


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crkm08rv5m0o


https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-incursion-russia-war-putin-latest-live-updates-sky-news-blog-12541713

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/da0d/live/2d1ad2f0-58f1-11ef-8f0f-0577398c3339.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-546ebe2e-0921-47b6-91dc-8b9b035c7f45.png

[Nicky91]

slaughter those russians

#SlavaUkraina


finally Ukraine is invading Russia, about time :clap1:

[Gusto Brunt]

A lot of people are getting very cocky over the Ukrainian invasion of Russia.

But Putin is very silent. God knows what horrors he's planning.

[arista]

A lot of people are getting very cocky over the Ukrainian invasion of Russia.

But Putin is very silent. God knows what horrors he's planning.



Yes he could bomb them all
overnight.
Using his many fighter jets

All Russian people have left the zone

[Gusto Brunt]

Yes he could bomb them all
overnight.
Using his many fighter jets

All Russian people have left the zone

I suspect yes. He is hoping the Ukrainians will mass many thousands of troops into Russia and Putin will ambush them, killing them all in mass bombing like you say - even using some tactical nuclear weapons.

[MTVN]

It's been a brilliant surprise move by Ukraine. What it's also revealed though is that they're now talking very openly about wanting to force Russia to the negotiating table rather than a full scale removal of Russian forces from their country like has been the stance so far

[Gusto Brunt]

Giving Putin an excuse to use tactical nuclear weapons on his own soil.

A sort of get-out clause. Not using them on another country but killing the 'enemy' within his own country.

[arista]

I suspect yes. He is hoping the Ukrainians will mass many thousands of troops into Russia and Putin will ambush them, killing them all in mass bombing like you say - even using some tactical nuclear weapons.


He does not need to.

[Gusto Brunt]

He does not need to.

Perhaps not, but I do think it's an option he hasn't ruled out.

[bots]

putin wont use nukes on his own towns.

The ukranians are doing this so that they can strike deeper at russian big value targets and also as a tool for negotiation if trump gets into power and russia tries to claim ukranian territory

[arista]

Ch4HDnews
showed they blew up a bridge
in Russia.


They are staying put, at this time.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-02b92b3c-436e-402f-a18d-903110ca58e1.png

[Beso]

I would take that paper serious if it had had Irvine Welsh on the front cover

[arista]

I would take that paper serious if it had had Irvine Welsh on the front cover


No.
all TV News and Radio
is reporting the same.

[Nicky91]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-02b92b3c-436e-402f-a18d-903110ca58e1.png

don't show mercy on these thugs, they didn't show ukrainians mercy either, in the genocide of Bakhmut for example

[arista]

Moscow has Confirmed
Ukraine has attacked a 3rd bridge in near the Kursk zone
in Russia.

SkyNewsHD Live

[bots]

there are only 3 bridges that provide the supply lines to ukraine

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[Defence Secretary John Healey
has told The Daily Telegraph that Ukraine's
ground assault in Russia has "sown doubt"
inside the country about Vladimir Putin.]



https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-9645166f-4984-473b-a79e-69ffec8b4b2d.jpeg

[arista]

A British man has died in Ukraine
Donestk, from a Russian missile.


SkyNewsHD Live

[arista]

Ryan Evans
who died was working for Reuters News.


[25 August 2024
A British national who was working in eastern
Ukraine as part of a Reuters news team was killed in
a missile strike on a hotel on Saturday,
the agency has confirmed.

Safety advisor Ryan Evans
was one of six Reuters employees staying
at the Hotel Sapphire in the city
of Kramatorsk - which is under Ukrainian control
but near the front line - when it was hit.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2l1py9g4r8o


1827891024888312187

[arista]

Sadly Russian Missiles
have Hit 15 Zones in Ukraine

Many hit Electricity supplies.

The Keep Asking Biden
can they fire long-range missiles in Russia
sadly USA and UK say no.


Ch4HDnews.

[Sticks]

And if they had surrendered to the real leader of that Russian province, Putin, this would not be happening

Ukraine is part of Mother Russia and Zelensky is a war criminal.

[arista]

And if they had surrendered to the real leader of that Russian province, Putin, this would not be happening

Ukraine is part of Mother Russia and Zelensky is a war criminal.


No
Ukraine was once part of Russia,
but those days have long gone

[bots]

Ukraine have just taken more Russian land

[Nicky91]

No
Ukraine was once part of Russia,
but those days have long gone

well what once was, can soon be what it used to be


if only we all believe in our master Putin's dream, for a big and united russia again


and to be honest, this is what you get for many years of xenophobic anti-russia behaviour in the west

[arista]

well what once was, can soon be what it used to be


if only we all believe in our master Putin's dream, for a big and united russia again


and to be honest, this is what you get for many years of xenophobic anti-russia behaviour in the west



Putin's Russia is already Massive
he needs no more

[arista]

More than 70 Russian Drones
hit Ukraine over night
41 are reported dead


SkyNewsHD Live

[arista]

USA Blinken & UK Lammy are live on SkyNewsHD
in Westminster

Talking about Ukraine

[Sticks]

They should interview the pope as he is the only one so far to say that Zelensky should have the courage to surrender to his master Putin.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/70ea/live/e41096a0-6fb9-11ef-b282-4535eb84fe4b.png.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/4ae0/live/c780bab0-6fb9-11ef-b282-4535eb84fe4b.png.webp

[arista]

Ch4HDnews last night
Showed a video of Ukraine Firing Bomber Drones in the
Moscow region.

One Russian Lady Died.

Flats were hit,
it was around 2AM

It was around 144 Bomber Drones that Ukraine
fired into Moscow.
Many were destroyed in the air by Russia

From a longer report on WION Gravitas Part 1
yesterday.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/d14a/live/c11fd730-714b-11ef-b02d-c5f3b724a1ea.png.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/4375/live/9d16f550-714e-11ef-8c1a-df523ba43a9a.png.webp

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-4d1c4b00-db63-48f0-92ae-02d5096a581a.png

[arista]

Just Reported on SkyNewsHD
by their reporter in Moscow.


[Russia and Ukraine exchanged 103 prisoners
each in deal mediated by UAE

It is the second such exchange since
Ukraine launched a surprise incursion
into Russia’s Kursk region on August 6.]


[The exchange of a total of 206 prisoners
was facilitated in the UAE’s eighth such mediation,
the Gulf nation’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs
said in a statement on social media platform X.

“We have successfully brought back another
103 warriors from Russian captivity to Ukraine,”
Zelenskyy posted on X on Saturday.

The freed Ukrainians included
82 privates and sergeants and 21 officers from
the Armed Forces of Ukraine,
the National Guard of Ukraine, border guards,
and police officers, he said.]


https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2024/9/14/russia-and-ukraine-exchange-103-prisoners-each-in-deal-mediated-by-uae

[arista]

[Old Biden has Pledged
$60.8bn Ukraine aid package approved
by US House of Representatives]

https://news.sky.com/story/crucial-60-8bn-ukraine-aid-package-approved-by-us-house-of-representatives-after-months-of-deadlock-13119287

[bots]

that was in april Arista

[arista]

that was in april Arista

Yes, I should have said that.
Such a mega amount
it is still being talked about
on CNN HD USA on UK TV

[arista]

Today Zelensky is in Downing St.
with PM Starmer.

2 days back
[Ukraine's military says it has carried out a strike
on a large oil terminal off the coast of the
occupied Crimean Peninsula,
the latest in a wave of attacks targeting
Russian-controlled energy facilities.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c981pv02vryo

[arista]

Zelensky stated he wanted to take Crimea back from Russia.

Now President Trump is in Power from the start of 2025
Crimea is now Russian 100% to Trump's team

So if Zelenshy wants his Crimea back
he is on his own.

[arista]

Yesterdays Paper

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-92ddf8b3-9358-4821-8da1-2ab600aafb38.jpeg

[arista]

A New Report on SkyNewsHD
showed Ukraine troops using Crude Machine Guns
to shoot down Russian Bomber Drones in the
Dark at Night
Sadly many get through.

They need more USA Supplies
but fear soon under the
New President of America
that could end.


Near the Cities,
they showed the new Circle Barded Wire
with Concrete blocks holding it.
they could slow down or stop


Stuart Ramsay in Ukraine
giving far better reports than the sad BBC.


https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-russia-war-trump-putin-zelenskyy-latest-12541713

4:59 mins Video Report

[Sticks]

Trump will tell the Ukrainians to surrender to their true leader Putin, as Ukraine is a province of Mother Russia and not independent and send that war criminal Zelensky to Moscow to be tried for High Treason.

The only just way this war will end

Next we need to kick Finland and Sweden out of NATO.

You don't mess with Putin, as the Scripols found.

[arista]

No ,
it is not a Surrender

It is a Separation

[arista]

Ukraine's Zelensky is not
happy with Germany,
who had a one-hour phone call with Russia's Putin.

[bots]

no-one knows what will happen yet to ukraine when trump takes over, we just need to wait and see

[Alf]

1858239365597569132

[Alf]

1858239365597569132Biden on route to I'm a celebrity get me out of here.

[arista]

Yes Alf
yesterday, Evil Russia Bombed
all of Ukraine,

Now Ukraine can Fire into Russia,
Biden at the G20 as he says go for it

[arista]

Ukraine says it fought North Korean troops for first time


[North Korean soldiers have clashed with
Ukrainian troops for the first time,
Ukraine's top officials have revealed.

In an interview with South Korean
broadcaster KBS, Ukrainian Defence Minister
Rustem Umerov said a "small group"
of North Korean soldiers were attacked.
US officials told the Reuters news agency
that North Korean troops were engaged
in combat in the Kursk region
of Russia on 4 November.
Ukraine's leader Volodymyr Zelensky,
who had earlier condemned the West's lack
of response to the North Korean troops,
said these "first battles with North Korea
open a new chapter of instability in the world".

Seoul, however, said it "does not believe
[troops on both sides] engaged in
direct combat", but that there was
an "incident" involving a small number
of North Korean soldiers "near the frontline".

Ukraine says an estimated 11,000 North Korean
soldiers were in the Kursk border region,
where Ukrainian troops have a foothold.
In recent weeks, South Korean and US intelligence
as well as Nato have said that they have
seen evidence of North Korean troops
being involved in Russia's war.

But Moscow and Pyongyang have
so far not responded directly to any
of the allegations.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c14le0p4310o

[Zizu]

Yikes


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[arista]

Ukraine
has Built School Classrooms
in the Underground Train platform
Glass panel.

Then they are safe.


But they go home on a Bus back to the
bombed-out school, to be picked up by their parents.
which of course is not safe.


Great report on SkyNewsHD
in Ukraine.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/6115/live/155232e0-a52b-11ef-bdf5-b7cb2fa86e10.png.webp

[Livia]

Serious question... Am I the only one who thinks war in Europe is beoming increasingly inevitable?

[bots]

Serious question... Am I the only one who thinks war in Europe is beoming increasingly inevitable?

We are at war already, they just try to pretend that we are not. It may slow down a bit with trump or it may speed up, who knows

[Livia]

We are at war already, they just try to pretend that we are not. It may slow down a bit with trump or it may speed up, who knows

Interesting... I really mean a boots on the ground, all Europe involved kind of war. I worry Putin will escalate and push on.

[Sticks]

Which is why Ukraine should be ordered to accept it is part of Mother Russia and is not an independent country and to hand Zelensky over to Moscow to be tried for High Treason.

[Quantum Boy]

Interesting... I really mean a boots on the ground, all Europe involved kind of war. I worry Putin will escalate and push on.

He doesn't have the resources or supply lines to meaningfully push into Western Europe, it's taken them years (and massive losses) to gain and hold ground in Ukraine which is right on their doorstep.

Realistically if he goes to war in any meaningful sense with anywhere further west it's not boots on the ground, it's missiles in the air, and then it's all academic as that's not a war, it's game over.

Realistically I think Russia will end up keeping Crimea. Then they'll take time to regroup, years or longer, as has been the pattern for many decades at this point. What happens after that is anyone's guess.

My most optimistic hope for the planet is that the can is repeatedly kicked down the road.

[bots]

The only problem i see is that Putin wants to make his mark regarding the russian empire and Crimea won't cut it and he isn't getting any younger. I think there are large areas of ukraine that want to be Russian too, it's really not simple

[arista]

Serious question... Am I the only one who thinks war in Europe is beoming increasingly inevitable?


No, I think
Because of Nato
it stays as Russia Attaking Ukraine
now with the help of North Korean troops.

[Quantum Boy]

No, I think
Because of Nato
it stays as Russia Attaking Ukraine
now with the help of North Korean troops.

Even without NATO the threat to other surrounding W.European nations of him pushing west makes it an unrealistic prospect, at worst they'd take all of Ukraine and then start eyeballing other former Soviet states to "reclaim", long before even considering further west. But in terms of timescales there you're talking decades.

Plus it's not just like he "gets Ukraine" and that's that, a nice new chunk of land, even with a full annexation you're talking a very extended period of massive civil unrest and (what would be seen technically as) domestic terrorism... Russia would need to maintain a heavy military presence IN Ukraine just to keep Ukraine, it's not just a "capture and move on to the next target".

I think the N.Korea stuff is concerning for other reasons. Namely... you have to put a big ? over what N.Korea gets in return for providing cannon fodder.

Russia is currently providing them with various basic resources (like food & oil) in trade for equipment and ammo. Now seemingly some numbers. My concern is that as the relationship deepens, the more likely it becomes that Russia will start assisting them with their nuclear programme - if not in terms of resources, at least in terms of knowledge & expertise.

That's not openly happening right now but it's early days.

[arista]

[what N.Korea gets in return for providing cannon fodder.]


Yes Mega deals for the tubby leader of N. Korea
for his Troops from North Korea to Die in Ukraine.

A few may stay alive
to enjoy watching porn on their phone

[Quantum Boy]

[what N.Korea gets in return for providing cannon fodder.]


Yes Mega deals for the tubby leader of N. Korea
for his Troops from North Korea to Die in Ukraine.

A few may stay alive

I mean it's difficult to call it mega deals - a lot of it is basic food & fuel supplies because the population is starving. And in terms of the troops... from what I know of NK foreign policy and the reason they tend NOT to send troops abroad, is that they essentially don't want soldiers "seeing the world" and then coming back with tales of other countries having easy access to "luxuries" (i.e. some things we'd consider quite basic like a can of coke or chocolate bar). NK's existence hinges on propaganda and misinformation. They don't want their civilians becoming worldly. Or in short - I think the troops he's sending are effectively "ammo", he likely doesn't expect them back (or want them back).

[arista]

Yes they need the Russian Food imports
into North Korea.
To stay Alive.

[I mean it's difficult to call it mega deals - a lot of it
is basic food & fuel supplies because the
population is starving.]


I call them Mega deals
as they save lives in North Korea

[Gusto Brunt]

Biden's nearly 90. He's not bothered about WW3. He only wanted to put Trump in the sh**.

Not just Trump. The world. What a horrible evil man Biden is.

[arista]

Biden's nearly 90. He's not bothered about WW3. He only wanted to put Trump in the sh**.

Not just Trump. The world. What a horrible evil man Biden is.


No he is not near 90


He is 81

[Quantum Boy]

No he is not near 90


He is 81

Arista triggered :joker:

[Gusto Brunt]

No he is not near 90


He is 81

Well he's closer to 90 than I am. ;) :hee:

[Quantum Boy]

Well he's closer to 90 than I am. ;) :hee:

He's closer to 90 than Arista is too.

...but in the other direction.

[arista]

Well he's closer to 90 than I am. ;) :hee:

I get the feeling he may not make it that far,
to be honest.

[Cherie]

Biden is a disgrace, he should not be making decisions like that during a period of transition

[Zizu]

Biden is a disgrace, he should not be making decisions like that during a period of transition


Has he ever made ANY decisions ?

I presumed he was just a puppet like Reagan !?!


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[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-1ca35581-e07c-40e8-a563-116b1cdf33b4.jpeg

[bots]

i think it was a smart move from Biden. The possibility that ukraine may fire into Russia should reduce the chances of russia continuing to attack ukraine's electricity supply

[Gusto Brunt]

I get the feeling he may not make it that far,
to be honest.

His body might do but sadly his brain mightn't... :shocked:

[Gusto Brunt]

He's closer to 90 than Arista is too.

...but in the other direction.

I didn't know that. Thanks. ;)

[arista]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2024/11/19/3201938665768766487/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_3201938665768766487.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2024/11/19/10/92232745-14100327-image-a-17_1732011983068.jpg

Take that Evil Putin..................

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14100327/Ukraine-fires-missile-Russia-WW3-fears-Kremlin-threatens-nuclear-response-long-range-Western-weapons-used-territory.html

[Quantum Boy]

It's not going to turn the war around at the end of the day.

I'm increasingly of the opinion that the West knows that eventually Russia will gain from this war (perhaps not all of Ukraine but significant chunks of it) BUT - by the time Russia does settle with what they've got - they want it to have been so drawn out, difficult, uncomfortable & costly that they will think twice before entering another similar conflict.

Basically it needs to be that Russia can save face by saying that they succeeded in their war goals, whilst at the same time, not being able to push any further out without massive risk.

[arista]

https://video.dailymail.co.uk/preview/mol/2024/11/19/1589096787718587886/964x580_JPG-SINGLE_1589096787718587886.jpg

[arista]

Putin signs law allowing a nuclear strike:

[Kremlin leader lowers threshold for justifying
nuke launch amid growing WW3 fears as
Ukraine fires US-made ATACMS into
Russia for first time]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14100831/Putin-signs-law-allowing-nuclear-strike-Kremlin-leader-lowers-threshold-justifying-nuke-launch-amid-growing-WW3-fears-Ukraine-fires-ATACMS-Russia-time.html


Bollocks Putin
piss off

[bots]

if he is going to do a nuclear strike, he doesn't need to change any rules to justify it. One could say it is posturing

[UserSince2005]

Well he better not nuke london because high a share of my property protfolio is there and so it would ruin me financially.

[arista]

An Hour back or so
PM Starmer, spoke Live in Rio Brazil.

The i paper asked PM Starmer
"should the UK prepare for Nuclear War"

PM Starmer asked him to say it again,
then stated we should ignore Putin's words?

[MTVN]

It's not going to turn the war around at the end of the day.

I'm increasingly of the opinion that the West knows that eventually Russia will gain from this war (perhaps not all of Ukraine but significant chunks of it) BUT - by the time Russia does settle with what they've got - they want it to have been so drawn out, difficult, uncomfortable & costly that they will think twice before entering another similar conflict.

Basically it needs to be that Russia can save face by saying that they succeeded in their war goals, whilst at the same time, not being able to push any further out without massive risk.

I'd say we're arguably at that point now tbh. The front lines have been basically frozen for like 2 years now but realistically the only side that will gain further is Russia unless there's a dramatic increase in support from the West for Ukraine which is unlikely to come.

[Zizu]

Apologies - I admit to being ignorant on these matters .,


Soooo if North Korea has joined forces with Russia are South Korea likely to join up with Ukraine ??

Who will Trump’s USA side up with ?


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[bots]

the next 12 months will be interesting, i can't predict how it will go, can anyone? The best we can hope for is that all sides realise economically everyone is a loser while it continues

[Quantum Boy]

Apologies - I admit to being ignorant on these matters .,


Soooo if North Korea has joined forces with Russia are South Korea likely to join up with Ukraine ??

Who will Trump’s USA side up with ?




SK aren't going to fight NK outside of Korea, would be my assumption. They'll be concerned about Russia supplying NK with weapon advancements (or nuclear assistance) more than anything else.

Alliance with SK is IMO far too important to the US in the Pacific for that to ever be under any sort of realistic threat, Trump or no Trump. The USA is South Korea's closest ally.

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-db4ef114-0352-4563-baf4-37a7c51b2a11.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-cf876bb1-45b1-4390-9607-2449f87ea72e.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-34106283-51fc-4186-aef2-fd221c8c6ac0.jpeg

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-5927e845-9af0-40cd-9550-2dc9c73fee63.jpeg

[bots]

Reports that storm shadows have been used inside russia. UK wont confirm it

[Beso]

Apologies - I admit to being ignorant on these matters .,


Soooo if North Korea has joined forces with Russia are South Korea likely to join up with Ukraine ??

Who will Trump’s USA side up with ?


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China.

China are bored with putin.


Norway and sweden have issued their residents with leaflets on how to stock pile items incase of a nuclear strike.

But the US will only side with China after 30th of january when trump becomes president up until then, Biden will do everything he can for war to happen

[arista]

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[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Can someone take this puny poo down! Seriously. Can a noble man in his camp trip him, then bind him and dispose.


Anyway we must take the warning to stock up on food seriously

[Zizu]

Can someone take this puny poo down! Seriously. Can a noble man in his camp trip him, then bind him and dispose.


Anyway we must take the warning to stock up on food seriously


I heard somewhere that Putin is just the current leader and there are far more evil people waiting in the wings for when he falls !!

Scary if correct


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

This Could be a "Possible"
President Trump Plan
on Monday, Jan/ 20 / 2025


All land is Frozen


So Russia has more bits of Ukraine
but not all of it

President Zelensky must Resign

His Number 2
Takes over.


And also Ukraine holds a bit of Russia
up the top.


No More Fighting
under President Trump's Order

[Sticks]

Or

Zelensky must stand trial in Moscow for High Treason

All of Ukraine is part of Mother Russia

Expel Finland and Sweden from NATO

Order the Baltic States to return to Mother Russia, which they are a part of, just like Ukrainne is.

Deport the Scripols to Russia

[arista]

From a Scottish Comedian
who has added his own Text

https://scontent-man2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/464147921_3108266785980813_1097691941323368228_n.j pg?_nc_cat=111&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=833d8c&_nc_ohc=Uo5gIB-kyQAQ7kNvgHJJ6lK&_nc_zt=23&_nc_ht=scontent-man2-1.xx&_nc_gid=A8di1cZIPC_SqhddlHJkwar&oh=00_AYDjejUXGCjaZOKgjaLCB3BWm3RUDTt4Kvem50Uv26-EDg&oe=67462C6A

[Quantum Boy]

This Could be a "Possible"
President Trump Plan
on Monday, Jan/ 20 / 2025


All land is Frozen


So Russia has more bits of Ukraine
but not all of it

President Zelensky must Resign

His Number 2
Takes over.


And also Ukraine holds a bit of Russia
up the top.


No More Fighting
under President Trump's Order

I question how likely either side is to agree to territorial compromise. Especially Russia. I think Ukraine might if it's looking like they have no option, but it would be areas that (frankly) have a large percentage of the population that would prefer to be Russian, and also it would come with some pretty high demands in terms of what happens going forward with guarantees. And I don't think they trust Russia not to go against those guarantees. Even if people buy the idea that Trump can firmly hold the line on this... he's not going to be around all that long (as president, and also, cos he's just plain fkn old) and 5-10 years in geopolitics isn't actually a very long time. Could just end up right back here in under a decade. No time at all.

[arista]

I question how likely either side is to agree to territorial compromise. Especially Russia. I think Ukraine might if it's looking like they have no option, but it would be areas that (frankly) have a large percentage of the population that would prefer to be Russian, and also it would come with some pretty high demands in terms of what happens going forward with guarantees. And I don't think they trust Russia not to go against those guarantees. Even if people buy the idea that Trump can firmly hold the line on this... he's not going to be around all that long (as president, and also, cos he's just plain fkn old) and 5-10 years in geopolitics isn't actually a very long time. Could just end up right back here in under a decade. No time at all.


Sure but Russia would want those
extra Ukraine zones they are in.

This Most Important thing
is to freeze all the land - so it stays as it is.

Zelensky must stand down
for all this to work, of course.

[bots]

We just dont yet know what Trump will do, the whole point about Trump is that he is unpredictable, when he becomes predictable, it's game over for him

[Alf]

The question is, can these, crazy, globalist lunatics start WW3 before Trump takes over in January. They're trying their best.

[arista]

We just dont yet know what Trump will do, the whole point about Trump is that he is unpredictable, when he becomes predictable, it's game over for him


Of Course


That is why I only said "possible"


We know Trump wants to stop USA Tax Payers' money
Funding this War.


Freezing the Land as it is
is a great solution

But the Ukraine Leader
must stand down.

[arista]

President Obama was USA President
when Putin took back Crimea


He did Nothing to stop that


That tells you the power of USA
or lack of it.

[arista]

Russia Firing back
Warhead Missiles that Burn everything into dust

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/f800/live/5000b7e0-a8eb-11ef-8ab9-9192db313061.jpg.webp

[Media reports say the Oreshnik could
be a scaled-down version of the Yars-M ICBM]


Meanwhile
around 90,000 Ukraine Soldiers
have gone missing?

Every time Ukraine Fires a USA Missile in Russia

Many more are then sent
by Russia.


Not looking good.


Ref: CNN HD USA/ WION HD/ SkyNewsHD/ Times Radio

[arista]

SkyNewsHD Interview

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[arista]

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[arista]

A British Troop helper (Para Daniel Burke)
in Ukraine was shot dead, last year
by an Algerian helper.

The Algerian is now on the run.

His Family was in a court
today, hearing about his killing.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/03/28/jihadi-adam-suspect-ukraine-murder-former-para/


Ref:Ch5HDnews

[Sticks]

Why link to that paper? - It is behind a pay wall!!!

[arista]

[Ukraine says it captured
two injured North Korean soldiers in Russia]

[Two wounded North Korean soldiers have been
captured as prisoners of war by Ukrainian troops
in Russia's Kursk Oblast,
President Volodymyr Zelensky said on Saturday.

The two men are receiving
"necessary medical assistance" and are in the
custody of the Security Service of Ukraine (SBU)
in Kyiv, according to Zelensky.

The president said he was "grateful" to
Ukrainian paratroopers and soldiers from
the Special Operation Forces for
capturing the North Koreans.
He added that "this was not an easy task",
claiming that Russian and North Korean soldiers
usually execute wounded North Koreans
"to erase any evidence of North Korea's involvement
in the war against Ukraine".

The Ukrainian intelligence service said
in a statement that the prisoners were
captured on 9 January and immediately
after were "provided with all the necessary
medical care as stipulated by the Geneva Convention"
and taken to Kyiv.
"They are being held in appropriate conditions
that meet the requirements of international law,
" the intelligence service's statement read.
The intelligence service said the prisoners do not
speak Ukrainian, English or Russian,
"so communication with them is carried
out through interpreters of Korean,
in cooperation with South Korean NIS
(National Intelligence Service)".

In a statement posted on Telegram and X,
Zelensky said the soldiers were "talking to SBU
investigators" and he had instructed
the Security Service of Ukraine to
grant journalists access to them.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjdek713d0xo

[arista]

Reports Russia
is rushing to take as much land as they can
before the New USA President Trump takes power
next Monday.

Ref: WION Gravitas.

[Sticks]

They already have it as Ukraine is a province of Mother Russia

Anyone saying they are an independent country is just as valid as saying that Arista is king of Jupiter and I am king of Saturn

[arista]

They already have it as Ukraine is a province of Mother Russia

Anyone saying they are an independent country is just as valid as saying that Arista is king of Jupiter and I am king of Saturn



No
it was part of Russia


[Ukraine became an independent country in 1991,
when the Soviet Union dissolved.
This was after a referendum
in which the majority of Ukrainians voted
in favor of independence]


Facts Matter Sticks


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukraine

[Sticks]

But did Russia ratify this?

If not, such a referendum is a meaningless opinion poll

Suppose the residence of Yorkshire voted to break free of the UK, they would not be allowed to and it would be a meaningless vote, like that 1991 vote was

[Nicky91]

But did Russia ratify this?

If not, such a referendum is a meaningless opinion poll

Suppose the residence of Yorkshire voted to break free of the UK, they would not be allowed to and it would be a meaningless vote, like that 1991 vote was

the UK can break up into separate countries, that is the only realistic possibility

like if Scotland, Wales want to be independent, they are entitled to that right if they really want to fight for that

but tbh being an independent nation is more expensive than being a part of the UK


although i could see a Scotland applying for EU membership

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcnYBTFXgAAtwNb?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

President Trump
has now sent a message to Russia's Putin.

[arista]

Trump will put High Tariffs on Russia


Possible meeting Monday.

[Sticks]

He should put the Tariffs on Ukraine to get them to surrender to the true ruler of Ukraine, Vladimir Putin, as Ukraine is a province of Mother Russia.

[arista]

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[arista]

BBC News Text:
[In an extended interview with the Guardian,
Ukraine's president Volodymyr Zelensky
says he will offer US firms lucrative
reconstruction contracts to try to
get Donald Trump onside with its war
effort against Russia.
It comes ahead of the Ukrainian leader
travelling to Munich later this week
to meet US Vice-President JD Vance.]


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[arista]

In any Negotiations
Crimea stays in Russia's hands.

Was confirmed today.


https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/dc/Putin_with_Vladimir_Konstantinov%2C_Sergey_Aksyono v_and_Alexey_Chaly_4.jpeg/500px-Putin_with_Vladimir_Konstantinov%2C_Sergey_Aksyono v_and_Alexey_Chaly_4.jpeg


Back in 2014
Russia took back Crimea


Prseident Obama did bugger all to stop him


[February and March 2014, Russia invaded
the Crimean Peninsula, part of Ukraine,
and then annexed it.
This took place in the relative power
vacuum immediately following
the Revolution of Dignity.]