Russian Invasion of the Ukraine - The Official WW3 Thread

[James]

Does anyone believe America is making the world a safer place, at the moment?

Cause it certainly doesn't feel like it.

[Glenn.]

Only the cultists believe that

[arista]

Does anyone believe America is making the world a safer place, at the moment?

Cause it certainly doesn't feel like it.


NZ is safe


Our Ben


Was there, he knows

[joeysteele]

Does anyone believe America is making the world a safer place, at the moment?

Cause it certainly doesn't feel like it.

No I do not sadly.

I've never been an admirer of Trump but the one thing I hoped for was that he'd work GENUINELY for peace and a safer World.
I see no evidence of that only an aim of selfish greed of even exploitation of events by him.
So far I add.

As I may yet be proven wrong and I'd love to be shown to be wrong.

All I am seeing is other leaders and Countries just tolerating him and sucking up to him for the next just under 4 years.
Let him think he's achieved whatever then once he's gone resume whatever hostilities they wish to.

I'm feeling the World is more possibly heading into more dangerous waters under his FINAL term of USA Presidency.

[bots]

Does anyone believe America is making the world a safer place, at the moment?

Cause it certainly doesn't feel like it.

it's a very good question. Was it a safe place prior to Trump? No, because we all know Putin's agenda, yet europe, including the UK weren't backing the risk of war up by meaningfully increasing defence spending. A short sharp shock has got everyones attention now without anything in the world actually changing.

Trump won't get a peace deal because Putin will not delay his momentum forward across europe. He will accept an operational pause, because he needs that to regroup, but he is getting too old to hang around and do nothing for years

What Trump wants is a nobel peace prize, Obama got one for doing sfa, so Trump wants one too, that's what his drive for peace is all about, he doesn't actually care if peace happens if he gets his nobel peace prize. That's why he will never provide a security backstop to any peace keeping force, because that extends his reponsibility

With the 24 hour news cycle and misinformation, tempers get tested very quickly, but it will likely all settle down in the coming weeks

What we have now is uncertainty, no-one likes that and that's whats bringing the nervousness, but I actually think Starmer is quite a calm, measured thinker, much more so than the current political alternatives, so as far as the UK goes, it could be a lot worse

[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Beso]

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Its nae gid withoot the cairds.

Ah thought ah telt e tae bring the cairds.

[arista]

Zelensky stated
Biden's ceasefire plan with Russia failed.

That got President Trump
angry.

He shouted I am not Biden


After that it got even worse.

[Alf]

Does anyone believe America is making the world a safer place, at the moment?

Cause it certainly doesn't feel like it.America is, yes. Europe on the other hand are all out for war.

[Alf]

only the cultists believe that1896225233797071238

[Alf]

This is how Ukraine is recruiting for the front lines? This is what European leaders are supporting.

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[Alf]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

JD VANCE

The bitter irony of America’s present predicament is that the very people who cheer for
permanent arms shipments to Ukraine also supported the de-industrialization of America.

The very things you want us to send are things we don’t make enough of.

[Alf]

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[Alf]

"That was ages ago, they're definitely trustworthy now"


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[Alf]

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[Alf]

And when they've run out of Ukrainians, they will be coming for other Europeans.

Will you be next?

[Alf]

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[Maru]

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American comedy, like our chocolate, is pretty horrific now :laugh:

[Glenn.]

An intriguing analysis has been circulating online regarding the psychological aspects of Zelensky’s meeting with Trump and Vance, conducted using ChatGPT.

From this analysis, it becomes evident that we have witnessed a true masterclass in gaslighting, manipulation, and coercion on the part of Trump and his entourage. Let’s break down the key points:

1. Blaming the victim for their own situation

Trump explicitly tells Zelensky: “You have allowed yourself to be in a very bad position.” This is classic abuser rhetoric—blaming the victim for their suffering. The implication is that Ukraine itself is responsible for being occupied by Russia and for the deaths of its people.

2. Pressure and coercion into ‘gratitude’

Vance demands that Zelensky say “thank you.” This is an extremely toxic tactic—forcing the victim to express gratitude for the help they desperately need, only to later accuse them of ingratitude if they attempt to assert their rights.

3. Manipulating the concept of ‘peace’

Trump claims that Zelensky is “not ready for peace.” However, what he actually means is Ukraine’s capitulation. This is a classic manipulation technique—substituting the idea of a just peace with the notion of surrender.

4. Refusing to acknowledge the reality of war

Trump repeatedly insists that Zelensky has “no cards to play” and that “without us, you have nothing.” This is yet another abusive tactic—undermining the victim’s efforts by asserting that they are powerless without the mercy of their ‘saviour.’

5. Devaluing the victims of war

“If you get a ceasefire, you must accept it so that bullets stop flying and your people stop dying,” Trump says. Yet, he ignores the fact that a ceasefire without guarantees is merely an opportunity for Russia to regroup and strike again.

6. Dominance tactics

Trump constantly interrupts Zelensky, cutting him off: “No, no, you’ve already said enough,” and “You’re not in a position to dictate to us.” This is deliberate psychological pressure designed to establish a hierarchy in which Zelensky is the subordinate.

7. Forcing capitulation under the guise of ‘diplomacy’

Vance asserts that “the path to peace lies through diplomacy.” This is a classic strategy where the aggressor is given the opportunity to continue their aggression unchallenged.

8. Projection and distortion of reality

Trump declares: “You are playing with the lives of millions of people.” Yet, in reality, it is he who is doing exactly that—shifting responsibility onto Zelensky.

9. Creating the illusion that Ukraine ‘owes’ the US

Yes, the US is assisting Ukraine, but presenting this aid as “you must obey, or you will receive nothing” is not a partnership—it is financial and military coercion.

10. Undermining Ukraine’s resistance

Trump states that “if it weren’t for our weapons, this war would have ended in two weeks.” This is an attempt to erase Ukraine’s achievements and portray its efforts as entirely dependent on US support.

Conclusion

Trump and his team employed the full spectrum of abusive tactics: gaslighting, victim-blaming, coercion into gratitude, and manipulation of the concepts of peace and diplomacy. This was not a negotiation—it was an attempt to force Zelensky into accepting terms beneficial to the US but potentially fatal for Ukraine.

[Glenn.]

And when they've run out of Ukrainians, they will be coming for other Europeans.

Will you be next?

Yes that is what Putins plan is.

[Quantum Boy]

Trump has a go at Zelenskyy in the oval office and a day later Alf has already turned all of his energy into being a committed anti-Zelenskyy propaganda copy-paste machine. Not unexpected I suppose, but always bizarre to witness, when people make this weird deification of Trump their entire personality.

[arista]

American comedy, like our chocolate, is pretty horrific now :laugh:



Sure
but nice to have a change.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Sticks]

Sickening, this European fawning over a war criminal and dictator. Trump is Truth. Even the first three letters of Truth are in his name. All Putin is doing is finishing the job of World War 3 and purge a part of Mother Russia of Nazis. Trump and Vance called out Zelensky for the war criminal he is

Zelensky disrespected the Oval Office, period, by not wearing a suit and tie

[arista]

Sickening, this European fawning over a war criminal and dictator. Trump is Truth. Even the first three letters of Truth are in his name. All Putin is doing is finishing the job of World War 3 and purge a part of Mother Russia of Nazis. Trump and Vance called out Zelensky for the war criminal he is

Zelensky disrespected the Oval Office, period, by not wearing a suit and tie


He will have the Tie back on
after Russia ends the war.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Glenn.]

Sickening, this European fawning over a war criminal and dictator. Trump is Truth. Even the first three letters of Truth are in his name. All Putin is doing is finishing the job of World War 3 and purge a part of Mother Russia of Nazis. Trump and Vance called out Zelensky for the war criminal he is

Zelensky disrespected the Oval Office, period, by not wearing a suit and tie

So did Elon yet I don’t see any outrage for that.


Also during its first presidency The Sexual Predator LIED 30,573 times.

It’s hard to try and push your narrative when FACTS contradict you.

[Ammi]

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[Cherie]

The family of JD Vance has been moved to an "undisclosed location" after hundreds of protesters descended on a ski resort to berate him following the White House clash with Volodymyr Zelensky.

Mr Vance and his family were met by hundreds of protesters at the Sugarbush Resort, in Waitsfield, Vermont, and needed to cut their four-day trip short after they saw the fury from the crowd. Protesters branded Mr Vance a "national disgrace" with some telling him and his family to "go ski in Russia."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/jd-vance-s-ski-holiday-plagued-by-protesters-as-family-moved-amid-zelensky-backlash/ar-AA1A6xOZ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=4beabbac986448c295ab5ac77ac2dac7&ei=31

Feel sorry for his wife and kids

[Beso]

Does anyone believe America is making the world a safer place, at the moment?

Cause it certainly doesn't feel like it.

Its Russia and ukraine, or Israel and Gaza who are at war, NOT America. Dont be do stupid.

[bots]

The family of JD Vance has been moved to an "undisclosed location" after hundreds of protesters descended on a ski resort to berate him following the White House clash with Volodymyr Zelensky.

Mr Vance and his family were met by hundreds of protesters at the Sugarbush Resort, in Waitsfield, Vermont, and needed to cut their four-day trip short after they saw the fury from the crowd. Protesters branded Mr Vance a "national disgrace" with some telling him and his family to "go ski in Russia."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/jd-vance-s-ski-holiday-plagued-by-protesters-as-family-moved-amid-zelensky-backlash/ar-AA1A6xOZ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=4beabbac986448c295ab5ac77ac2dac7&ei=31

Feel sorry for his wife and kids

he has been directing hate toward immigrants and childless women, so he is the architect of his families problems

[Beso]

. Dominance tactics

Trump constantly interrupts Zelensky, cutting him off: “No, no, you’ve already said enough,” and “You’re not in a position to dictate to us.” This is deliberate psychological pressure designed to establish a hierarchy in which Zelensky is the subordinate.



What a total inability to watch something unfold how it did..


It was zylenski who was interrupting all the time, trump and vance sat back and let him finish what he had to say..zylenski simply didn't.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The family of JD Vance has been moved to an "undisclosed location" after hundreds of protesters descended on a ski resort to berate him following the White House clash with Volodymyr Zelensky.

Mr Vance and his family were met by hundreds of protesters at the Sugarbush Resort, in Waitsfield, Vermont, and needed to cut their four-day trip short after they saw the fury from the crowd. Protesters branded Mr Vance a "national disgrace" with some telling him and his family to "go ski in Russia."

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/jd-vance-s-ski-holiday-plagued-by-protesters-as-family-moved-amid-zelensky-backlash/ar-AA1A6xOZ?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=4beabbac986448c295ab5ac77ac2dac7&ei=31

Feel sorry for his wife and kids

Sad that rabid leftists always resort to hate and violence

[Cherie]

Sad that rabid leftists always resort to hate and violence

:nono:

Resort spokesperson John Bleh said: "There were a handful of protesters at the resort throughout the day but all were peaceful and none were disruptive." He then declined to further comment on the incident.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Resort spokesperson John Bleh said: "There were a handful of protesters at the resort throughout the day but all were peaceful and none were disruptive." He then declined to further comment on the incident.

Look at these venomous Harridans they went to University, hard to believe they're all under 25 :shocked:

https://static.independent.co.uk/2025/03/02/15/Vance_Vermont_Protests_23759.jpg?width=1200&height=900&fit=crop

[Cherie]

Look at these venomous Harridans they went to University, hard to believe they're all under 25 :shocked:

https://static.independent.co.uk/2025/03/02/15/Vance_Vermont_Protests_23759.jpg?width=1200&height=900&fit=crop

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[Glenn.]

Sad that rabid leftists always resort to hate and violence

Where is the hate and violence LT?

[Crimson Dynamo]

AND

they are Nazis too

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[Quantum Boy]

AND

they are Nazis too

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Disingenuous, dumb, or both? One of TiBB's greatest mysteries.

[Glenn.]

Maybe LT doesn’t know how to read or have the critical thinking to understand.

[Beso]

AND

they are Nazis too

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What are they thanking zylenski for...hes done nothing for them :shrug:

[Beso]

I cant get my head round this.

2 weeks ago there was none of this, now is the time, once in a generation type statements from starmer. It was like the war was just happening...gino dcampio was still vogue.

Now all of a sudden everyones in a panic because of one pre meeting press briefing.

[Quantum Boy]

I cant get my head round this.

2 weeks ago there was none of this, now is the time, once in a generation type statements from starmer. It was like the war was just happening...gino dcampio was still vogue.

Now all of a sudden everyones in a panic because of one pre meeting press briefing.

There has been a major and probably irreversible political shift. And yes it has happened very quickly.

[Crimson Dynamo]

There has been a major and probably irreversible political shift. And yes it has happened very quickly.

Says the MSM

Ycnmiu

[Quantum Boy]

Says the MSM

Ycnmiu

Says common sense and a vague observation of global politics.

[Sticks]

Congratulations to Trump for stopping weapons to the Nazis in Ukraine

The UK should do the same and not anger The Trusty Truthful Trump, (May he rule forever!!!)

Lets not forget, Canada went to honour a Ukrainian veteran and had him in their parliament only to find he was a concentration camp guard.

Putin is do the world a favour with his campaign as originally stated to de-nazify and disarm a Nazi state. He is only finishing the job of World War 2

(Anyone disagreeing may be Novochucked, and you know he will do it as he has done it before, with impunity!!!)

[Gusto Brunt]

I've come to a point where I am lost for words with this plank Starmer.

I just shake my head. Everything he says and does is just...well you know. He makes me sick. :mad:

Grovelling, no clue Starmer. Gives our money away for yet more war, and lets the pensioners freeze to death. No money for them. The homeless too.

He's a fookin' clown. Sorry for the language.

[Beso]

Ramping up our defences by cutting foreign aid. Then spends it by giving Ukraine foreign aid. That's like mike Tyson sending out his cuts man to fight for his belts.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Konstantin Kisin @KonstantinKisin

It is a tragic irony that European "leaders" were finally stirred into action not
by Vladimir Putin invading Ukraine (remember: Germany started out by
sending a few thousand helmets) but by having the American protection
umbrella under which we've all been living so comfortably taken away.


It's time for us to understand that we must abandon net zero lunacy, grow
our economies, encourage business and innovation, re-industrialise our
countries, end mass immigration which undermines our sense of unity and
common purpose, invest in our armed services (not by making more obsolete
tanks and recruiting infantry but by actually anticipating the way wars will be
fought in the future) and end our obsession with luxury beliefs.

Europe and Europeans need to wake up, grow up and man up.

[Quantum Boy]

Konstantin Kisin @KonstantinKisin

It is a tragic irony that European "leaders" were finally stirred into action not
by Vladimir Putin invading Ukraine (remember: Germany started out by
sending a few thousand helmets) but by having the American protection
umbrella under which we've all been living so comfortably taken away.


It's time for us to understand that we must abandon net zero lunacy, grow
our economies, encourage business and innovation, re-industrialise our
countries, end mass immigration which undermines our sense of unity and
common purpose, invest in our armed services (not by making more obsolete
tanks and recruiting infantry but by actually anticipating the way wars will be
fought in the future) and end our obsession with luxury beliefs.

Europe and Europeans need to wake up, grow up and man up.

The hyper-consumer/service/finance economy, in the UK at least, was created (deliberately) by Thatcher. Love that it's being reframed by today's-right as some sort of fluffy leftism :joker:.

[Beso]

You can tell the world has the big orange man to shout at again. Take this thread, 200 pages it took some people to post an opinion. Lo and behold, it was against trump.

[Quantum Boy]

You can tell the world has the big orange man to shout at again. Take this thread, 200 pages it took some people to post an opinion. Lo and behold, it was against trump.

The downplaying is almost hilarious Parmy; these are the most turbulent political events since at least the Cold War, and arguably since WW2. "The big orange man to shout at" is an utterly wild take.

[Nicky91]

i am not shocked at this news at all


Trump and Putin are besties, similar power hungry evil dictator lunatics :idc:





we in the EU will always continue to support Ukraine

[Beso]

The downplaying is almost hilarious Parmy; these are the most turbulent political events since at least the Cold War, and arguably since WW2. "The big orange man to shout at" is an utterly wild take.

Yes they are, 2 years on and over a million deaths its took the general public to suddenly kick off about it.

I dint understand why everyone seems to agree that we should throw money at ukraine so they can continue to have their citizens obliterated fighting the russian onslaught. Talk to Putin fgs..save lives.

[Sticks]

Remove Zelensky from Office and send him for trial of the charge of High Treason to Moscow!

Accept the Ukraine is just another province of Mother Russia

Allow tanks into Kiev - (Note the correct and proper RUSSIAN name!!!)

Accept the regional governor that Putin puts in

Only then should the US deal with Ukraine

[arista]

Remove Zelensky from Office and send him for trial of the charge of High Treason to Moscow!

Accept the Ukraine is just another province of Mother Russia

Allow tanks into Kiev - (Note the correct and proper RUSSIAN name!!!)

Accept the regional governor that Putin puts in

Only then should the US deal with Ukraine


No need after the War
He will stand down
and have an Election.

[Sticks]

He must resign - others have also said that.

[Beso]

Does anyone remember 2014 in the ukranian City of Odesa, when 300 pro russian(people who wanted to be russian) protestors were attacked by 1000s, resulting in 46 pro russian deaths.

Its basically far right Ukrainians attacking their countries lefties.

No charges were ever brought for this by the way.


https://youtu.be/ftEFmdiCm68?si=iQ-0yQN3dY9_Ss0E



Burnt alive or beaten to death. I wonder if this would have happened at that hotel during our riots.

[Beso]

A 2014 discussion
https://youtu.be/p84KzkdKZb4?si=qdBJuSZSyGklYgwU

A 2020 documentary about far right white supremists in ukraine.
https://youtu.be/fy910FG46C4?si=3R_xu6WNZ2Pw_5Bm

[Nicky91]

Does anyone remember 2014 in the ukranian City of Odesa, when 300 pro russian(people who wanted to be russian) protestors were attacked by 1000s, resulting in 46 pro russian deaths.

Its basically far right Ukrainians attacking their countries lefties.

No charges were ever brought for this by the way.


https://youtu.be/ftEFmdiCm68?si=iQ-0yQN3dY9_Ss0E



Burnt alive or beaten to death. I wonder if this would have happened at that hotel during our riots.

pro-russians are evil, i feel no sympathy for those lowest of the low type of scum

[Beso]

pro-russians are evil, i feel no sympathy for those lowest of the low type of scum

Pop back tomorrow when you do.

[arista]

Reuters Reported:

President Trump to Revoke
Legal Status for 240,000 Ukrainians
as the US steps up deportations.


Was on the end of BBC2HD Politics Live,

[Nicky91]

Reuters Reported:

President Trump to Revoke
Legal Status for 240,000 Ukrainians
as the US steps up deportations.


Was on the end of BBC2HD Politics Live,

Trump cannot do that


those ukrainian cannot go back to their country :(

[arista]

Trump cannot do that


those ukrainian cannot go back to their country :(


He can.
It is up to the President.

[arista]

UK now to send Ukraine
Advanced Attack Drones


SkyNewsHD Live

[Nicky91]

UK not to send Ukraine
Advanced Attack Drones


SkyNewsHD Live

don't worry, Germany will send them instead



and Netherlands is sending 3.5 billion to Ukraine again

[Cherie]

UK not to send Ukraine
Advanced Attack Drones


SkyNewsHD Live

Think you mean now Arista, not ...not

[arista]

Think you mean now Arista, not ...not


Yes thanks

Sending them now.

[Nicky91]

all Zelensky's fault if we all are dying soon


Ukraine just submit and go back to being in the soviet-union :idc: how difficult can that be, jeez

[Livia]

all Zelensky's fault if we all are dying soon


Ukraine just submit and go back to being in the soviet-union :idc: how difficult can that be, jeez

Pro Russia, anti-Ukraine again. I can hardly keep up with your flipping and flopping. I think you do it just to be irritating.

[Beso]

all Zelensky's fault if we all are dying soon


Ukraine just submit and go back to being in the soviet-union :idc: how difficult can that be, jeez

They cant go back to being russian again, the ukranians hate them to much still.

[Sticks]

Tough, Ukraine is just a province of Mother Russia and not an independent country.

[Livia]

Tough, Ukraine is just a province of Mother Russia and not an independent country.

When will you be moving to "mother" Russia? I mean, what are you doing here, slumming it with the democratic masses?

[Nicky91]

i am kinda annoyed and fed up with all the fearmongering



this is a conflict between Russia and former soviet-union countries, and now thanks to Trump cancelling usa's support for ukraine, these are scary times as well for Moldova, Estonia, Lithuania, Latvia, Kazakhstan, Georgia


Armenia idk, since russia still supports them in their fight with Azerbaijan

[Nicky91]

and specifically those who are cancelling russian language, culture


that is Putin's strategic operation how he calls this




the regions Donetsk, Lugansk are pro-russian, and they are perfectly entitled to have those views in my opinion


Kyiv government what they do against Donetsk, Lugansk is also not okay, trying to silence their people, so in a way Putin is right about corruption and fascism existing in Kyiv

[Sticks]

Please can we use the proper Russian name of Kiev and not the ludicrous Kyiv

[arista]

Please can we use the proper Russian name of Kiev and not the ludicrous Kyiv


No
you mean their previous name,
now long gone,
stop living in the past.

[MTVN]

Well I must say at least Sticks has been consistent throughout this conflict

[arista]

Well I must say at least Sticks has been consistent throughout this conflict


But Wrong.


You never Correct Sticks

[arista]

Latvian President Edgars Rinkēvičs
has brought in Conscription.


Image to remind you
how close to Russia they are also

https://i.etsystatic.com/16461565/r/il/5fab2e/5437449604/il_1588xN.5437449604_nbet.jpg

He spoke Live on SkyNewsHD Trevor Phillips.

[arista]

BBC News Text :
[Telegraph quotes US President Donald Trump
as saying Ukraine "may not survive".
Washington will only lift its ban on weapons
and intelligence sharing if Kyiv cedes land
occupied by Russia, the paper says.]


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[arista]

Ukraine Bomber Drones Hit Moscow
last night.

[arista]

Ukraine Accepts U.S. Proposal
for a 30-day ceasefire.

[Beso]

Ukraine Accepts U.S. Proposal
for a 30-day ceasefire.

A step forward in Trumps quest to save lives.

[joeysteele]

What will be Russia's response however?

[bots]

usa has restarted supplying weapons and intelligence to ukraine. I heard they actually did this quietly several days ago

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Nicky91]

What will be Russia's response however?

it seems Putin wants all ukrainian soldiers out of Kursk, before negotiations regarding this ceasefire with the USA to begin in Moscow


Putin himself is now also in Kursk btw

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/480/cpsprodpb/21de/live/ed0b25c0-ffbc-11ef-98de-b749287997b3.jpg.webp

[Nicky91]

and honestly, Putin isn't stupid, a ceasefire would also be good for his Russia as well


and i wouldn't say Putin is against a peaceful end to this war, but as long as Ukraine wants to put water to the wine, in terms of allowing its regions the rights of pro-russian culture, pro russian language, and that Russia is allowed to form trade deals with non-european countries, that they won't be stopped or sanctioned on more by the west if they are joining Asia


and i'd also say Putin wants an apology from the west, for how russia has been treated many years before this war




and that corruption within the Kyiv government is also taken care of, with the upcoming elections in a more fair way

[Nicky91]

where two parties fight, two parties share the blame as well


Zelensky also isn't a saint honestly, and there are more within Kyiv who aren't that much of nice guys, so to speak


i also stand with the people in Donetsk, Lugansk more like, freedom of their own opinions, views i always am for freedom of speech, equality

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

[US nuclear weapons in Poland would be 'deterrent' for Russia]

Yes Piss Putin Off even more....................


[The president of Poland, Andrzej Duda,
has repeated his call for the US to base
nuclear weapons on Polish soil.
In the presidential palace in Warsaw, he told me
that it would make Poland stronger and safer,
as it faces Russia.

Viewed from Poland, President Putin's Russia is a clear
and a present danger.
President Duda, who is also commander-in-chief
of the rapidly expanding Polish armed forces,
said today's Russia is at least as aggressive
as the former Soviet Union.

He condemned what he called Moscow's
imperial greed.
Positioning US nuclear weapons in Poland
would be viewed by President Putin
as a provocation.
But President Duda views the proposal
as a defensive measure to
strengthen deterrence.
He said it would be a response to
President Putin's 2023 decision
to deploy Russian tactical nuclear weapons
in Belarus, which has a border with
Poland and Ukraine.

"It's the same Russia that's attacking Ukraine today,
who is an aggressor, who is murdering civilians,
who is bombing down civilian settlements,"
he told me.]

Jeremy Bowen the reporter.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce98ym8k89do

[bots]

The russian population is currently around 140 million, roughly twice the population of the UK. Now that russia has all but had its war machine wiped out, it's not in any way capable of matching the combined strength of europe. All that russia really has is nukes, it's in no position to be making demands

[Quantum Boy]

The russian population is currently around 140 million, roughly twice the population of the UK. Now that russia has all but had its war machine wiped out, it's not in any way capable of matching the combined strength of europe. All that russia really has is nukes, it's in no position to be making demands

It hasn't had anything all that much more than the nukes since the Cold War. They've had numbers, both in troops and in literal volume of ordinance, but they haven't kept up the same pace of tech as the West. Comparing "how many of X, Y, Z each has" is largely meaningless when a massive chunk of Russia's equipment is outdated to the point of being almost-obsolete.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

PM Starmer
having an On Screen
meeting with NZ , Canada, and All of the EU

But Not any from USA?


PM Starmer is not Trump

[Sticks]

But he is learning from Elon

When he axed National Health England and sacked over a 1000 workers in one go, I felt we should club together and get the PM a chainsaw

[arista]

PM Starmer Now Live


All Media

Saying Russia must come to the table

[arista]

Press Questions:

ITV1HD News asked PM Starmer,

about no USA back stop?

PM Starmer claims
He is in touch with Trump's Team.

[Nicky91]

it's already a good thing that Putin isn't immediately against the ceasefire, and that he has his own terms to add

best for the west and ukraine to not go against that, as all parties have one thing in common, a peaceful end to this conflict

[arista]

it's already a good thing that Putin isn't immediately against the ceasefire, and that he has his own terms to add

best for the west and ukraine to not go against that, as all parties have one thing in common, a peaceful end to this conflict


No Nicky
his own terms are Crazy

Putin is Buggering it all UP

[Quantum Boy]

it's already a good thing that Putin isn't immediately against the ceasefire, and that he has his own terms to add

best for the west and ukraine to not go against that, as all parties have one thing in common, a peaceful end to this conflict

A ceasefire is a long, long, long way from being the end of the conflict.

[Nicky91]

Zelensky being 110% anti-russian doesn't do Ukraine any favors either honestly



where Russia need to put water to the wine, according to Ukraine, Ukraine themselves also need to do that, to come to a acceptable compromise to prevent further bloodshed


but Zelensky won't do that i worry :(

[arista]

Zelensky being 110% anti-russian doesn't do Ukraine any favors either honestly



where Russia need to put water to the wine, according to Ukraine, Ukraine themselves also need to do that, to come to a acceptable compromise to prevent further bloodshed


but Zelensky won't do that i worry :(


He will Stand down
If Putin Stops invading

[arista]

At this Time
Putin is still Attacking Ukraine.


Sir Bill Browder
A USA Expert on Putin
told Ch4HDnews
in 6 months time,
"we will all be
sitting debating this, Still"

[Livia]

Zelensky being 110% anti-russian doesn't do Ukraine any favors either honestly



where Russia need to put water to the wine, according to Ukraine, Ukraine themselves also need to do that, to come to a acceptable compromise to prevent further bloodshed


but Zelensky won't do that i worry :(

Zelensky's country was invaded by a foreign power. Thousands of people have been killed or injured. Entire communities have been bombed out of their homes. Thousands of children have been forcibly taken to Russia and placed with Russian families. How is all that okay with you? Do you like the Russian Eurovision entry or something? Is that what's colouring your judgement?

[arista]

Never mind

Ice Hockey
USA Vs Russia

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/43c5/live/2652b190-044a-11f0-97d3-37df2b293ed1.jpg.webp

[arista]

Pathetic PM Starmer
President Trump does care about wat you say....................

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/54e9/live/f44bde40-0446-11f0-94d4-6f954f5dcfa3.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/906d/live/7f6d00f0-0445-11f0-97d3-37df2b293ed1.jpg.webp


Evil Git President Putin

[bots]

you carry on siding with the russians and a deranged american president arista, i expected nothing less than total obedience

[arista]

Live on all TV news

Finland Leader Talking about Yes Or No.

Zelensky is with him in Helsinki

[arista]

you carry on siding with the russians and a deranged american president arista, i expected nothing less than total obedience


President Trump
doing deals.


But Ukraine not invited to talk

[arista]

Live on all TV news

Finland Leader Talking about Yes Or No.

Zelensky is with him in Helsinki


Good on SkyNewsHD to give Translation
for Zelensky fast.


BBC left the Broadcast
No translator for the sad bbc



BBC now back in Helsinki

[arista]

Zelensky
just told the press
he will talk with President Trump
today.

[arista]

Zelensky
to the press
Those zones that Russia has taken
are temporary


The Press Conference has now ended

[Livia]

Putin and Trump are like a pair of bullies. They've attacked Zelensky now they're going to divide his dinner money between them.

[arista]

Trump had a two-hour Phone call with Putin.


Zelensky in Finland
stated he would make a Phone Call
with President Trump
for a brief call, today

[arista]

Trump kept Zelensky
on the Phone call for an Hour

He has posted on his site.

Marco Rubio & Michael Walsh
will be at the Saudi Arabia talks.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GmEhzb7bcAEL715?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Zelensky Now Live in Oslo
with the Norwegian PM.

Thanking Norway
for more weapons.

All News

[arista]

This Russia Invasion
will just go on and on.

[arista]

The Final Question in Oslo
was about Crimea.

Zelenksy says no tourists can go there.
it is a dead area?

He is Crazy to think Crimea
will go back to Ukraine
USA in 2014 did nothing to stop that

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[The US has placated Russian leader Vladimir Putin
over the Black Sea ceasefire, The Times reports.]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-72b342a3-dd8a-4488-83ba-521f11a090ad.png

[arista]

https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-8454ccc4-9b94-4fe3-8c64-8c1a320b4a72.jpeg

[arista]

Ukraine should Fire Bomber Drones into Moscow
again.


He can attack and blow up Flats
up high.


Meanwhile, Russia has taken control
of another Town.

Reported on Gravitas Part 1
Ch519 WION HD

[arista]

Ukraine has arrested 2 Troops
Both from China.



All Media

[arista]

Sky News Text :
[President Trump's Ukraine envoy has told
The Times the country could be divided
up "almost like Berlin after World War Two"
as part of a peace deal.]


https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-c5d16859-8c95-45cd-ad21-1f73cbd06ad9.png

[arista]

Over 30 Killed
2 children dead.

In Sumy town
In Ukraine.

All Media


This War is going on...................

So Far,
Trump has not stopped it

[Sticks]

And if that war criminal Zelesky had allowed a surrendr to his master, Putin at the begining, these deaths could have been avoided.

It is Zelensky's ego that is keeping this war going.

He can't even be bothered to wear a shirt and tie to meet the leader of the free world...

[arista]

And if that war criminal Zelesky had allowed a surrendr to his master, Putin at the begining, these deaths could have been avoided.

It is Zelensky's ego that is keeping this war going.

He can't even be bothered to wear a shirt and tie to meet the leader of the free world...


Not he (Zelensky) will have to give up the
Four Zones Russia has a hold on


Under a Future Trump Deal.
If that happens, of course

https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/INTERACTIVE-Poster-Which-Ukrainian-regions-are-voting-on-joining-Russia.jpg?resize=770%2C513&quality=80

[arista]

New Report is saying President Trump
is pulling out of Ukraine,

He is backing Russia,


If that's true
PM Starmer must all stop Burning Tax Payers cash
on helping Russia
as any weapons are wasted from now on.

[arista]

President Putin declares an Easter Truce


https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-latest-putin-declares-easter-truce-and-says-russia-will-cease-all-military-operations-until-monday-12541713

[arista]

Now Ukraine has also agreed to the 2 day ceasfire

[bots]

Russia have continued their attacks

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/f8a9/live/7bf1de80-1d60-11f0-b265-abe347419ae3.jpg.webp

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/4427/live/e2baca00-1d65-11f0-b1b3-7358f8d35a35.jpg.webp

[arista]

Russia have continued their attacks


Yes never trust Putin.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/04/19/14/97460957-14627673-image-a-23_1745070966568.jpg

Putin is now getting more troops by force.
They took over a gym
removed all the men.

[Zizu]

I wondered why nobody had taken him out but apparently there are people in the queue who are even worse than Putin

[arista]

I wondered why nobody had taken him out but apparently there are people in the queue who are even worse than Putin

No Public can get close to President Putin
He is protected by his special police team

[arista]

BBC News Text:
[Ukraine peace talks are back on
the front pages amid reports of a
controversial proposal to end the fighting.
Donald Trump will allow Vladimir Putin
to keep almost all the territory he seized
from Ukraine under the terms of a proposed
peace deal, the Daily Telegraph reports.
The seven-point proposal, which would see
the US formally recognise Russian sovereignty
over Crimea and freeze the current front line,
would also reportedly leave Ukraine
with no clear US security guarantee.]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/14f5/live/dc8546c0-1fbc-11f0-9c65-a5c3dc449bf3.jpg.webp

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

BBC News Text:
[Ukraine peace talks are back on
the front pages amid reports of a
controversial proposal to end the fighting.
Donald Trump will allow Vladimir Putin
to keep almost all the territory he seized
from Ukraine under the terms of a proposed
peace deal, the Daily Telegraph reports.
The seven-point proposal, which would see
the US formally recognise Russian sovereignty
over Crimea and freeze the current front line,
would also reportedly leave Ukraine
with no clear US security guarantee.]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/976/cpsprodpb/14f5/live/dc8546c0-1fbc-11f0-9c65-a5c3dc449bf3.jpg.webp

Ukraine should keep the war going on, KILL EVERY RUSSIAN


what do we care about this stupid ''deal'' by the Orange Baby, sucking up so hard to his bestie and fellow dictator Putin :idc:

[Nicky91]

maybe its time EU should start sanctioning USA as well then, same as they did to Russia


:think:


Trump isn't any better than Putin honestly

[arista]

maybe its time EU should start sanctioning USA as well then, same as they did to Russia


:think:


Trump isn't any better than Putin honestly


Yes, he is washing his hands,
of Ukraine.

[joeysteele]

That would be near full surrender to Putin and Russia then.
So much for Trump the master negotiator.
No way should Ukraine HAVE to accept that, just because the USA under deranged Trump are too cowardly to stand firm with probably most of the rest of the World against Putin and Russia.

[arista]

That would be near full surrender to Putin and Russia then.
So much for Trump the master negotiator.
No way should Ukraine HAVE to accept that, just because the USA under deranged Trump are too cowardly to stand firm with probably most of the rest of the World against Putin and Russia.


Yes, he has a Horrible choice.


But will American Companies go there for Mineral diggings
Thus, stopping Russian future attacks?

[bots]

America will end up having no say in any international conflicts. Ukraine now produces over 60% of the armaments it needs itself. Europe is increasing its defense spending and can easily backup ukraine. America is no longer needed. Yes, it will be difficult in the short term, but the world will quickly reshape excluding america

[arista]

America will end up having no say in any international conflicts. Ukraine now produces over 60% of the armaments it needs itself. Europe is increasing its defense spending and can easily backup ukraine. America is no longer needed. Yes, it will be difficult in the short term, but the world will quickly reshape excluding america


LBC Live
The left winger is saying
he is not shocked by Trump.

He is asking about Russia's Putin hold over Trump
what do you think?

[bots]

Putin doesn't have a hold over trump. Trump admires Putin and wants to emulate him in the usa. It's nothing more than that

[arista]

Putin doesn't have a hold over trump. Trump admires Putin and wants to emulate him in the usa. It's nothing more than that


Yes

you should phone in
and tell LBC that

[arista]

JD Vance stated
Zelensky must sign the Trump Deal
all they walk away.



Of course, the Trump Deal
is Putin keeps all his new Land.

Also Crimea
was never in this.


Live Debate on Newsnight
with Gillian Tett FT and
Jim Murphy Labour.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Sticks]

And Trump is right
Trump is the Truth and Trump is Truth

Zelensky is a war criminal
All of Ukraine is part of Mother Russia

If you say they are independent then it is just as valid to say that Arista is king of Jupiter

[arista]

So far Zelensky
is not going to sign this deal


He has left his South Africa Trip

As 9 were killed in a Russian missile

[joeysteele]

This is more like cowardice from Trump.
Certainly it's not or should be even ever right to reward aggressors over the victims..

[arista]

This is more like cowardice from Trump.
Certainly it's not or should be even ever right to reward aggressors over the victims..


Yes it seems so.

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14643737/Trump-says-not-happy-Russia-attack-Kyiv.html


[Trump says he is 'not happy' with Russia's
overnight missile attack on Kyiv and urges:
'Vladimir, STOP! Let's get the peace deal done!']


At last some good words
from President Trump.


Update :12 now dead

[arista]

Trump says he is 'not happy' with deadly Russian strikes on Kyiv

Good words for a change

[arista]

Putin wants a Gap on 8th May
for 3 days

Ukraine is not trusting him.


Putin announces three-day Russian ceasefire
in Ukraine from 8 May



[Russian President Vladimir Putin has announced
a temporary ceasefire for the war in Ukraine.

The Kremlin said the ceasefire would run
from the morning of 8 May until 11 May - which
coincides with victory celebrations to mark
the end of World War Two.

In response, Ukraine's Foreign Minister
Andrii Sybiha called for an immediate
ceasefire lasting "at least 30 days".

While US President Donald Trump, who has been
attempting to broker a truce between
the two sides, said he wants to see a
permanent ceasefire, the White House said.

The Kremlin announced a similar,
30-hour truce over Easter,
but while both sides reported a dip
in fighting, they accused each other
of hundreds of violations.

Ceasefires have been attempted more
than 20 times in Ukraine – all of them
failed eventually, and some within
minutes of going into effect. ]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c62j1848509o

[Zizu]

Part of me wishes that someone would take Putin out of the picture though some say that the possible replacements will be even worse !

[bots]

we live in a dangerous world again. We just need to invest in our own security

[arista]

Trump has stated
This is his final Offer.

Zelensky must sign this Final Deal.


Or Trump will walk away.

[arista]

Ukraine has now signed the American Deal.


[US Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant and
Ukraine's First Deputy Prime Minister Yulia Svyrydenko
have signed the natural resources deal]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5ypw7pn9q3o





No much data on it, yet

[arista]

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