Russian Invasion of the Ukraine - The Official WW3 Thread

[user104658]

when visitors arrive from other planets and see the nuclear wasteland they will be saying ... if only liz truss had kept her mouth shut

I honestly think the theory that there's tonnes of life out there, and aliens constantly observing Earth, but that they block all communication to "emerging civilisations" until they're confident that that civilisation WON'T obliterate itself with disease, climate catastrophe or infighting.

We're not doing great in the 2020's so far.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/02/28/15/54761317-10559373-image-a-56_1646063525631.jpg
[Vladimir Medinsky, the head of the Russian delegation, second left,
and Davyd Arakhamia, faction leader of the Servant
of the People party in the Ukrainian Parliament, third right,
attend 'peace talks' in the Gomel region, Belarus]

[arista]

when visitors arrive from other planets and see the nuclear wasteland they will be saying ... if only liz truss had kept her mouth shut


It was NATO as well.

[arista]

Ukraine invasion: Extra 100,000 people will
be able to seek sanctuary in UK,
Priti Patel announces

[A further 100,000 Ukrainians will be able
to seek sanctuary in the UK,
the home secretary has announced,
but Priti Patel has ruled out a visa waiver
for those fleeing the conflict with Russia
following Vladimir Putin's invasion.]

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-invasion-extra-100-000-people-will-be-able-to-seek-sanctuary-in-uk-priti-patel-announces-12554193

[bots]

Ukrainian soldiers who were reportedly attacked on Zmiinyi (Snake) island are still alive, according to a statement posted on Facebook by Ukraine's naval services.

"We are very happy to learn that our brothers are alive and well," the statement posted on Monday said.

The sailors "rebuked twice the attacks of the Russian invaders," but could no longer continue to protect the island, the statement continued.

Connection with the island was completely cut off and attempts to reach the sailors futile, after Russian armed forces destroyed its infrastructure, the navy said.

:thumbs:

[Kizzy]

No visa waiver though ... how about you take that red tape and wra it round liz gob!

[bots]

all the oligarchs are desperately trying to hang on to their cash hence their public letters and social media posts. I would imagine putin is dealing with a lot of anger from them at the moment

[arista]

No visa waiver though ... how about you take that red tape and wra it round liz gob!


There is good reason for that
to Stop Extreme Terrorist's getting in our nation.



We would not want them getting in
fast and easy.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMsQ7R6XsAIvraU?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Sadly, the Talks between
Russia and Ukraine
did not get any agreement.

[Kizzy]

No visa waiver though ... how about you take that red tape and wrap it round liz's gob!

[bots]

fifa has suspended all russian teams

[arista]

No visa waiver though ... how about you take that red tape and wrap it round liz's gob!


Again
There is good reason for that
to Stop Extreme Terrorist's getting in our nation.



We would not want them getting in
fast and easy.

[Oliver_W]

Again
There is good reason for that
to Stop Extreme Terrorist's getting in our nation.



We would not want them getting in
fast and easy.

Ukraine isn't Afghanistan...

[bots]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2022/2/28/1f487a06-2140-4d03-80ad-25c474cf490b.jpg

Some people – running a variety of pro-Russia and conspiracy-themed accounts – claim the photo above, of a woman injured in a Russian attack, is really from a 2018 gas explosion. That's not true.

The photo was taken on 24 February and has been verified by the photographers who took them and the metadata attached to the images.

[Alf]

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[Kizzy]

Again
There is good reason for that
to Stop Extreme Terrorist's getting in our nation.



We would not want them getting in
fast and easy.

Seeing as it's only women and children allowed to leave Ukraine which of those do you find the greatest terrorist threat?...

[glib]

Again
There is good reason for that
to Stop Extreme Terrorist's getting in our nation.



We would not want them getting in
fast and easy.

Is that all you can say? Heartless.

[Denver]

Vacuum bombs are in Ukraine, they are so inhumane and nobody surives them

[Denver]

I think we need to ramp up the pressure on Russia and ban them from all Ports, Canals and Airports in the world and completely destroy their economy

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Vacuum bombs are in Ukraine, they are so inhumane and nobody survives them



[President Zelensky accuses Russia of WAR CRIMES
over brutal shelling of Kharkiv which
saw 11 civilians killed and schools destroyed
as Ukraine's ambassador to the
US claims Putin dropped deadly
VACUUM BOMB during invasion]

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/01/00/54766611-10561485-New_satellite_images_also_showed_how_a_military_co nvoy_that_stre-a-324_1646095380459.jpg

[New satellite images also showed how a
military convoy that stretched more than 17 miles (27km)
was moving closer to the capital, a private U.S. company said]

[Denver]

People keeps speculating that Putin is seriously ill, do you remember the rumours he was ill with Parkinsons but Russia denied it? I wonder if there was any truth ti that and that is why he is going all out?

One thing though I don't think the Russians high up will want a nuclear war so I wouldn't be surprised if someone managed to get to him someone how because you know heart attacks can happen

[bots]

the russian convoy is now reported to be 40 miles long

[user104658]

the russian convoy is now reported to be 40 miles longThis seems tactically odd... One or two well placed strikes on that route ahead of the convoy and the entire thing is going nowhere fast?

[bots]

yes, the convoy is very vulnerable i would have thought.

The russian tactics have been strange throughout this war. I think a lot of it is because the generals etc are frightened to tell putin anything other than what he wants to hear. When people are in fear its very easy for the dictator to be completely isolated and clueless

[arista]

Prime Minister Johnson off to Poland and Estonia
today.

[arista]

[African refugees fleeing Ukraine are
facing 'shockingly racist'
treatment with border guards blocking
their attempts to cross the border into Poland,
continent's leaders claim]


[Korrine Sky, a British-Zimbabwean mother
of one was threatened at gunpoint]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10562031/African-refugees-fleeing-Ukraine-facing-shocking-racism-Nigerians-told-no-blacks-bus.html



A clip was on Ch4HDnews the other day.

[arista]

Is it wise to Evict Russia from the UN?


That's what some now want.

[arista]

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[bots]

the UN has never been effective, it is a complete waste of time

[arista]

PM Johnson is Live in Warsaw Poland


SkyNewsHD

[arista]

the UN has never been effective, it is a complete waste of time


Must better than nothing

[Cherie]

Belarus has now sent in troop :skull:

[Cherie]

Evidence now emerging of Russian army deserting their posts

[Denver]

yes, the convoy is very vulnerable i would have thought.

The russian tactics have been strange throughout this war. I think a lot of it is because the generals etc are frightened to tell putin anything other than what he wants to hear. When people are in fear its very easy for the dictator to be completely isolated and clueless

Blow up the first and last and they are in danger especially with tanks that won't be able to turn around, Ukrainian Soldiers should target their fuel tanks

[Niamh.]

Evidence now emerging of Russian army deserting their posts

Excellent

[arista]

Evidence now emerging of Russian army deserting their posts


Not enough of them.

[arista]

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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMwOpheX0AE9KqA?format=jpg&name=small

[bots]

russia are going to take kyiv and all the other cities, it's just a matter of time, but they will never win the war

[bots]

The Russian billionaire Alisher Usmanov, who has commercial ties to Everton, has had his assets frozen by the European Union as it announced further sanctions in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

Restrictions include a "prohibition from making funds available" and an EU travel ban.

The Usmanov-owned company USM Holdings sponsors Everton's training ground.

Usmanov also has an exclusive naming-rights option on Everton's new stadium.

Everton owner Farhad Moshiri is the chairman of USM Holdings.

It is not yet clear what, if any, effect the move might have on Everton. The club have been contacted for comment.

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Abramovich must just be a matter of time

[Denver]

russia are going to take kyiv and all the other cities, it's just a matter of time, but they will never win the war

Im not so sure they will, the Quicker Ukraine gets the weapons they been sent they will be even stronger, Russia has struggled against a Ukraine with hardly any weapons and if they destroy the Russian stock trucks on their way like they already have it will leave Russia very vulnerable.

Belarus has a very weak army they will be neither use or Ornament for anyone

[Crimson Dynamo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There’s a 40-MILE convoy of Russian military vehicles heading towards Kyiv to surround the city, trap the people there, and bomb them into submission. Are we really just going to sit back and watch Putin do this? There’s a war crime unfurling in front of us. <br>Who will stop it?</p>&mdash; Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) <a href="https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1498467435116052480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Denver]

Its not actually 40 miles its a less then half of that

[Niamh.]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">There’s a 40-MILE convoy of Russian military vehicles heading towards Kyiv to surround the city, trap the people there, and bomb them into submission. Are we really just going to sit back and watch Putin do this? There’s a war crime unfurling in front of us. <br>Who will stop it?</p>&mdash; Piers Morgan (@piersmorgan) <a href="https://twitter.com/piersmorgan/status/1498467435116052480?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Can't disagree with him here.

[bots]

we are delaying the inevitable. The west wants to believe that russia will be contained by sanctions etc and the simple truth is they wont. Russia have already declared war on europe, but nato don't want to face that reality yet

[Denver]

we are delaying the inevitable. The west wants to believe that russia will be contained by sanctions etc and the simple truth is they wont. Russia have already declared war on europe, but nato don't want to face that reality yet

There is speculation that Russia has already spent billions on this war which their economy cant handle now all of its big hitters are refusing trade, Russia have to sell oil to survive and they can t do that

[Alf]

Can't disagree with him here.I can.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its not actually 40 miles its a less then half of that

Nato fighter jets will not be sent into Ukrainian airspace as a 40-mile long
Russian military convoy closes in on on Kyiv.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/01/russia-ukraine-war-news-putin-peace-talks-bombing-latest/

[Denver]

Nato fighter jets will not be sent into Ukrainian airspace as a 40-mile long
Russian military convoy closes in on on Kyiv.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/03/01/russia-ukraine-war-news-putin-peace-talks-bombing-latest/

A 40 mile long convey would suggest hundreds of thousands soldiers which Russia just doesn't have

[bots]

there is satellite evidence of the 40 mile convoy. It's not a matter of conjecture

[Denver]

there is satellite evidence of the 40 mile convoy. It's not a matter of conjecture

Which isn't factually correct and it suggests he has sent his whole army to Ukraine

[Denver]

Im pretty sure they have mistranslated it and it was meant to say 40 miles away

[Livia]

It's a 40 Mile line of armour. It's cute that anyone would think that's the whole Russian army.

[bots]

Which isn't factually correct and it suggests he has sent his whole army to Ukraine

nonsense, the russian armed forces are the largest in europe. It is a 40 mile convey, nothing to do with distance from kyiv. You are just making stuff up

[Denver]

There is also no images that show anything that looks remotely like its 40 mile

[Denver]

Its looks like the Indians are gonna take the Russian side so maybe its time to think about sanctioning them, its crazy how Belarus is being given such a free ride

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMs88PoWQA8u86W?format=jpg&name=small

[The Slim Reaper]

Ukraine isn't Afghanistan...

This is a pretty good example of something people insist doesn't exist on here.

[Kizzy]

What have China said? If he has them on side then he won't care about EU sanctions.
MeDmpGnXo5A
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MeDmpGnXo5A

[arista]

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[arista]

Yes Kizzy
Russia and China are doing big deals now

[bots]

china are absolutely reliant on trade with the west, the trade they do with russia is tiny in comparison. They won't do anything that puts that in jeapordy

[Cherie]

China say they ar Russian partners not allies...it’s all about trade

[Kizzy]

They would say that wouldn't they?

I'm no trade envoy but what do they both need from Europe they can't get from each other?

[bots]

They would say that wouldn't they?

I'm no trade envoy but what do they both need from Europe they can't get from each other?

china does billions of trade with europe and the usa. It does a fraction of that with russia.

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/EBU_HQ/status/1498595890973581321

further statements from the EBU

[arista]

BBC news is spending all its time
in Poland.

CNN HD
far better, showing the Russians getting closer
saying how they expect them to surround the City
then move in./

[arista]

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Yes Poland do not like Black folk.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/loose-women-studio-erupts-chaos-26357661

[Denver]

What have China said? If he has them on side then he won't care about EU sanctions.
MeDmpGnXo5A
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MeDmpGnXo5A

Russia make money from the oil they have, China get theirs from Africa and will jot change

[arista]

The Ukraine Leader in the Main City
for the sake of all the people there
he must soon surrender.

The Massive Russia Convey is there soon
they are not rushing to get there

[arista]

PM Johnson now live in Estonia
on all 3 UK news channels

[bots]

The Ukraine Leader in the Main City
for the sake of all the people there
he must soon surrender.

The Massive Russia Convey is there soon
they are not rushing to get there

they will never surrender

[The Slim Reaper]

Imagine tough talking Arista telling Churchill to surrender during the blitz :hehe:

[arista]

Imagine tough talking Arista telling Churchill to surrender during the blitz :hehe:


Its not like that.


Russia has enough Military to Destroy that nation.
No Nation can stop them.

He can Surrender - Allow the new leader to take over
No massive deaths.

Slim - you can see the sense of that.

[Alf]

they will never surrenderWhy not?

[Alf]

Its not like that.


Russia has enough Military to Destroy that nation.
No Nation can stop them.

He can Surrender - Allow the new leader to take over
No massive deaths.

Slim - you can see the sense of that.Putin has said he doesn't want Zelinsky removing.

[arista]

Putin has said he doesn't want Zelinsky removing.



Well, if you believe that?
You believe anything

[bots]

Its not like that.


Russia has enough Military to Destroy that nation.
No Nation can stop them.

He can Surrender - Allow the new leader to take over
No massive deaths.

Slim - you can see the sense of that.

because they will never give up their country willingly to invaders.

Have you actually been watching the news Arista? It appears not

[Alf]

Well, if you believe that?
You believe anythingQuite right. I believe a totally different story of events to what the television watchers believe.

[arista]

because they will never give up their country willingly to invaders.

Have you actually been watching the news Arista? It appears not


Yes I have the News on.
And it appears the Massive Russian Convey
will take the Capital.

So why not Surrender
it makes sense

Putin is not an Invader
he says that was,
his old land

[Niamh.]

Its not like that.


Russia has enough Military to Destroy that nation.
No Nation can stop them.

He can Surrender - Allow the new leader to take over
No massive deaths.

Slim - you can see the sense of that.

Are you serious?

[Cherie]

Quite right. I believe a totally different story of events to what the television watchers believe.

could you share?

If he doesn't want Zelenskyy to step down why is he invading..?

[The Slim Reaper]

Its not like that.


Russia has enough Military to Destroy that nation.
No Nation can stop them.

He can Surrender - Allow the new leader to take over
No massive deaths.

Slim - you can see the sense of that.

The Germans were unstoppable, too. No one had even slowed them down. I thought all the "It woz the english alone what won the war" types would be a little more gung-ho. I thought not pushing crazy destruction and war was dangerous leftism?

To be serious though, there is a bit of a stand off really. Putin has obviously made the calculation thus far, that exterminating civilians whilst at the same time claiming to be a liberator, doesn't really add up. As soon as he starts levelling cities, then the facade slips, and there is no going back to the propaganda war and any claims he's made to his army and his population have been proved false. Lots of his soldiers are already demoralised, believing they were going there as liberators.

[Niamh.]

Yes I have the News on.
And it appears the Massive Russian Convey
will take the Capital.

So why not Surrender
it makes sense

Putin is not an Invader
he says that was,
his old land

Of course he's an Invader ffs

[arista]

Are you serious?



Yes I am,
Why not put a View that keeps
all those Nice people ALIVE

[Cherie]

Of course he's an Invader ffs

sometimes its like the twilight zone in here..

[Niamh.]

sometimes its like the twilight zone in here..

I know right? :shocked:

[Niamh.]

Yes I am,
Why not put a View that keeps
all those Nice people ALIVE

If he isn't an invader why aren't all those nice people welcoming him with open arms?

[arista]

Of course he's an Invader ffs



Yes he has
But it used to be part of Russia.
Some speak Russian
in that nice nation.

[The Slim Reaper]

could you share?

If he doesn't want Zelenskyy to step down why is he invading..?

He got me hot and bothered with this kind of foreplay the other day, but he couldn't seal the deal then, either. :smug:

[Oliver_W]

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Yes Poland do not like Black folk.


https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/loose-women-studio-erupts-chaos-26357661

I thought all men under 60 were being kept in Ukraine to fight. Maybe it was something to do with that, rather than the amount of pigment their skin has?

[user104658]

To be fair, Putin's best-case scenario for taking + holding Ukraine would be Zelenskyy capitulating and Ukraine becoming a Russian vassal. Then they'd quickly hold a faux-democratic vote and he'd be voted out and replaced with a "proper" puppet government which would miraculously then be voted in by a landslide forever more.

[arista]

I thought all men under 60 were being kept in Ukraine to fight. Maybe it was something to do with that, rather than the amount of pigment their skin has?


No these Black folk are Students
or workers.



Loads of Students went there,
as Study is cheaper

[Niamh.]

I thought all men under 60 were being kept in Ukraine to fight. Maybe it was something to do with that, rather than the amount of pigment their skin has?

All Ukrainian men I would assume? From what I've read a lot of these people (men and women) were foreign students

[Alf]

could you share?

If he doesn't want Zelenskyy to step down why is he invading..?I don't know, I only have my theory and I'm definitely not 100% sure of that theory, far from it.

Maybe they're working together to take down a different enemy to what we're being told. (deep state)

I understand that sounds crazy, but so many things have been crazy for the past decade.

Think what they did to Afghanistan and Libya? I think they did the same to the USA. Overthrew the government and put puppets in place.

Trump has told us, he caught them all.

[arista]

The Germans were unstoppable, too. No one had even slowed them down. I thought all the "It woz the english alone what won the war" types would be a little more gung-ho. I thought not pushing crazy destruction and war was dangerous leftism?

To be serious though, there is a bit of a stand off really. Putin has obviously made the calculation thus far, that exterminating civilians whilst at the same time claiming to be a liberator, doesn't really add up. As soon as he starts levelling cities, then the facade slips, and there is no going back to the propaganda war and any claims he's made to his army and his population have been proved false. Lots of his soldiers are already demoralised, believing they were going there as liberators.


Yes, but the Americans with the British
Could stop the Germans


Ukraine Alone can not stop Russia
So save lives
Surrender

[arista]

An Indian Student left the Underground
and went up to buy supplies.

He was Shot Dead by a Russian troop.

Ref: WION HD Live

[The Slim Reaper]

I don't know, I only have my theory and I'm definitely not 100% sure of that theory, far from it.

Maybe they're working together to take down a different enemy to what we're being told. (deep state)

I understand that sounds crazy, but so many things have been crazy for the past decade.

Think what they did to Afghanistan and Libya? I think they did the same to the USA. Overthrew the government and put puppets in place.

Which enemy fo you think might be the real target and to what ends?

What is the deep state reference? The US? The deep state version you're familiar with is basically a figment of trumps imagination. The real deep state are orgs like the CIA that have put most of the world in peril at one time or another with continuous regime changes. Trust me, no deep state was desperate to stop trump - especially as he would be a puppet for anyone who told him he was great. The most easily controllable man in the world if you're a secret org with geo-political aims.

[Niamh.]

Yes, but the Americans with the British
Could stop the Germans


Ukraine Alone can not stop Russia
So save lives
Surrender

Yes I'm sure you'd be urging your government to surrender too if someone was trying to take over England :rolleyes:

[arista]

Yes I'm sure you'd be urging your government to surrender too if someone was trying to take over England :rolleyes:



In a Future Ware yes.
Then we would Kill the New Leader

[Niamh.]

In a Future Ware yes.
Then we would Kill the New Leader

Course you would

[Alf]

Which enemy fo you think might be the real target and to what ends?

What is the deep state reference? The US? The deep state version you're familiar with is basically a figment of trumps imagination. The real deep state are orgs like the CIA that have put most of the world in peril at one time or another with continuous regime changes. Trust me, no deep state was desperate to stop trump - especially as he would be a puppet for anyone who told him he was great. The most easily controllable man in the world if you're a secret org with geo-political aims.The deep state will be global, not just the US.

And "Orange man bad" doesn't cut it with me as a good counter argument.

[Oliver_W]

All Ukrainian men I would assume? From what I've read a lot of these people (men and women) were foreign students

Is there evidence that women were turned back as well as men? The border authorities wouldn't necessarily know that they were foreign students rather than people born there.

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes I'm sure you'd be urging your government to surrender too if someone was trying to take over England :rolleyes:

He might be right. We're the country that cried to leave Europe because foreigners were coming here. They weren't even invading and we surrendered :fist:.

[arista]

Course you would


We would have to.

[Alf]

He might be right. We're the country that cried to leave Europe because foreigners were coming here. They weren't even invading and we surrendered :fist:.You're still stuck in 2016. And still using the same useless arguments which you lost with in that referendum.

[The Slim Reaper]

The deep state will be global, not just the US.

And "Orange man bad" doesn't cut it with me as a good counter argument.

I didn't say orange man bad. He spoke of his love affair with Kim after he sent trump a nice letter, so if you think there is a secret clandestine global organisation working away, you think they wouldn't know he's a sucker for praise?

[Cherie]

All Ukrainian men I would assume? From what I've read a lot of these people (men and women) were foreign students

I thought the order was all men no matter what

[The Slim Reaper]

You're still stuck in 2016. And still using the same useless arguments which you lost with in that referendum.

it's not an argument, it's what happened - it's history. By every metric, we're worse off under brexit, which only leaves one possible explanation.

[Niamh.]

Is there evidence that women were turned back as well as men? The border authorities wouldn't necessarily know that they were foreign students rather than people born there.

If they were foreign students attending universities I'm sure they would have ID and papers to prove that. Anyway that's just what I read about it anyway :shrug:

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220228-pushed-back-because-we-re-black-africans-stranded-at-ukraine-poland-border

[glib]

Yes he has
But it used to be part of Russia.
Some speak Russian
in that nice nation.

Wrong, the majority of people in Crimea speak Russian, but Russia want it as it has access to ports, not because ‘some’ people there speak Russian, stop talking please.

[Niamh.]

I thought the order was all men no matter what

A spokesperson for the Ukrainian border guards also denied reports of discriminatory practices. He stressed that only Ukrainian men aged between 18 and 60 – who are required to join the war effort – were barred from leaving the country.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220228-pushed-back-because-we-re-black-africans-stranded-at-ukraine-poland-border

[bots]

Is there evidence that women were turned back as well as men? The border authorities wouldn't necessarily know that they were foreign students rather than people born there.

passports are the usual give away

There is evidence of racist behaviour at the border, i don't think it can be denied. Black women were told to go back in the queue as they came to the border point and never allowed through

[The Slim Reaper]

is there evidence that women were turned back as well as men? The border authorities wouldn't necessarily know that they were foreign students rather than people born there.

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[arista]

passports are the usual give away

There is evidence of racist behaviour at the border, i don't think it can be denied. Black women were told to go back in the queue as they came to the border point and never allowed through



Yes a Video Clip was on Ch4HDnews
Polish armed guards
Blocked all the Black folk from entering Poland

[Oliver_W]

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What was she saying? Not playing sound atm
passports are the usual give away

There is evidence of racist behaviour at the border, i don't think it can be denied. Black women were told to go back in the queue as they came to the border point and never allowed through

Oh okay, I take it back then!

[arista]

Thank you Slim
for Educating Oliver



It even has subtitles for Oliver

[Alf]

I didn't say orange man bad. He spoke of his love affair with Kim after he sent trump a nice letter, so if you think there is a secret clandestine global organisation working away, you think they wouldn't know he's a sucker for praise?Anyone who censors and silences the democratically elected sitting President of the United States arouses my suspicion that they're the enemy of the West. They did that to Trump.

[Cherie]

A spokesperson for the Ukrainian border guards also denied reports of discriminatory practices. He stressed that only Ukrainian men aged between 18 and 60 – who are required to join the war effort – were barred from leaving the country.

https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20220228-pushed-back-because-we-re-black-africans-stranded-at-ukraine-poland-border

1498677090929070090

Disgraceful but not unexpected I know quite a few poles and they are pretty racist and think nothing of saying they want to live among white people ...

[Niamh.]

1498677090929070090

That's shocking

[arista]

Poland hates blacks




It should be Front Page

[Niamh.]

Yes a Video Clip was on Ch4HDnews
Polish armed guards
Blocked all the Black folk from entering Poland

Pretty sure it was the Ukrainian guards blocking them rather than the Polish

[arista]

Pretty sure it was the Ukrainian guards blocking them rather than the Polish



No they were Polish,

[The Slim Reaper]

I don't know what lavrovs speech was about, but he has my attention...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FMxpZp8XEAQESz1?format=jpg&name=360x360

[The Slim Reaper]

No they were Polish,

The woman in the video says it was Ukranians, not the Poles.

[Oliver_W]

Thank you Slim
for Educating Oliver



It even has subtitles for Oliver

I didn't clip play so I didn't realise.

Pretty shocking that sort of thing would go in Europe today...

[arista]

The woman in the video says it was Ukranians, not the Poles.



No these were Men
on a Ch4HDnews clip.

[The Slim Reaper]

Poland hates blacks




It should be Front Page

Arista accusing someone else of being a racist. I've seen it all now. :smug:

[arista]

I didn't clip play so I didn't realise.

Pretty shocking that sort of thing would go in Europe today...



No, it is Typical for Poland

[bots]

the example i saw was at the polish side of the border. The cameras dont seem to hang around the ukranian side

[The Slim Reaper]

I didn't clip play so I didn't realise.

Pretty shocking that sort of thing would go in Europe today...

Not as shocking as you may believe.

Ukraine isn't Afghanistan...

[arista]

BAE shares have Shot Up
UK firm helping the War effort

Report on WION HD

[Alf]

Arista accusing someone else of being a racist. I've seen it all now. :smug:Are you suggesting Arista is a racist?

I've been on this forum for over a decade and never once witnessed any racism from Arista.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Are you suggesting Arista is a racist?

I've been on this forum for over a decade and never once witnessed any racism from Arista.

me neither

he hates women of all races



*jokes

[Cherie]

me neither

he hates women of all races



*jokes

:laugh:

[Niamh.]

me neither

he hates women of all races



*jokes

https://c.tenor.com/zLmOcBPF9GIAAAAM/shocked-annie-murphy.gif

[glib]

Are you suggesting Arista is a racist?

I've been on this forum for over a decade and never once witnessed any racism from Arista.

Even the way he’s talking about BAME people in this thread shows his deep rooted racism

[Denver]

Its not like that.


Russia has enough Military to Destroy that nation.
No Nation can stop them.

He can Surrender - Allow the new leader to take over
No massive deaths.

Slim - you can see the sense of that.

Yet Russian deaths are far out weighting the Ukrainian deaths, Russia may have the numbers but their war equipment is very old and it can't cope with a country with barely any military supplies let alone the best in the world

[arista]

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[Denver]

Yes I have the News on.
And it appears the Massive Russian Convey
will take the Capital.

So why not Surrender
it makes sense

Putin is not an Invader
he says that was,
his old land

Someone should tell him that Ukraine was around a long time before the sovient Union

[arista]

Yet Russian deaths are far out weighting the Ukrainian deaths, Russia may have the numbers but their war equipment is very old and it can't cope with a country with barely any military supplies let alone the best in the world


Cluster Bombs


Vacuum Bombs

https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/world-news/2022/03/01/621de1ba46163fae7a8b460f.html

[Denver]

Cluster Bombs


Vacuum Bombs

https://www.marca.com/en/lifestyle/world-news/2022/03/01/621de1ba46163fae7a8b460f.html
This things Ukraine don't have access to

[glib]

Yes I have the News on.
And it appears the Massive Russian Convey
will take the Capital.

So why not Surrender
it makes sense

Putin is not an Invader
he says that was,
his old land

Why are you so heartless?

[bots]

Some clarity on that massive Russian armoured column heading south towards Kyiv.

Close analysis of the latest satellite images by McKenzie Intelligence Services reveals the following:

The convoy is not 40 miles long, it’s a series of logistical ‘packets’ strung out along a major highway from the Belarus border, aiming to link up with Russian units on the northern outskirts of Kyiv.

The convoy appears to be hampered in several places by broken down vehicles.

The column consists of some armour (tanks) and infantry fighting vehicles but mainly logistical vehicles, implying plans for more than just a brief battle.

Separately, the imagery examined by McKenzie Intelligence Services shows a Russian parachute battalion dug in to the area of Hostomel airfield - Ukraine's most important international cargo airport and a key military airbase near Kyiv.

But their artillery is assessed to be outside the range of most of the capital.

The analysts say they have noted very little Russian progress over the past 24 hours.

[arista]

Someone should tell him that Ukraine was around a long time before the Soviet Union


[Was Ukraine part of the USSR?

On 30 December 1922, along with the Russian,
Byelorussian, and Transcaucasian republics,
the Ukrainian SSR was one of the
founding members of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR)]

[Alf]

me neither

he hates women of all races



*jokes:joker:

He likes the hard working ones.

[Denver]

nonsense, the russian armed forces are the largest in europe. It is a 40 mile convey, nothing to do with distance from kyiv. You are just making stuff up

I'll expect an apology

[bots]

so was poland, east germany, latvia, moldova etc etc etc. What is your point Arista. Are you suggesting these countries no longer have a democratic right to govern themselves?

[arista]

Why are you so heartless?


Again
you do not know what you are talking about




Saving their lives
is a fair viewpoint

[arista]

so was Poland, east Germany, Latvia, Moldova etc etc etc. What is your point Arista. Are you suggesting these countries no longer have a democratic right to govern themselves?


No they are in Nato
backed by USA


Nothing to do with this War

[arista]

The Stupid Former President Obama
caused all this.

Years ago he Forced Ukraine
to give up its Nuke weapons


FACT.

[Niamh.]

No they are in Nato
backed by USA


Nothing to do with this War

Moldova isn't

[Niamh.]

The Stupid Former President Obama
caused all this.

Years ago he Forced Ukraine
to give up its Nuke weapons


FACT.

Obama caused this? Not Putin..............Obama, mmhhmm

[Denver]

The Stupid Former President Obama
caused all this.

Years ago he Forced Ukraine
to give up its Nuke weapons


FACT.
You mean Obama forced them into signing the no nuclear weapons treaty 14 years before he became President?

[arista]

Obama caused this? Not Putin..............Obama, mmhhmm



Meaning if they Kept their Great Nuke Weapons
Putin would not have invaded


Yes that Stupid Obama
made a massive error.

[arista]

Moldova isn't

[The Republic of Moldova does not allow the
deployment of armed forces of other states
on its territory." Thus, since Moldova's neutrality
is enshrined in its constitution, the country has
no plans to join either NATO or CSTO.]



Sure Their choice

[glib]

Again
you do not know what you are talking about




Saving their lives
is a fair viewpoint

so you think britain should have surrendered to Germany in ww2 do you.

[glib]

The Stupid Former President Obama
caused all this.

Years ago he Forced Ukraine
to give up its Nuke weapons


FACT.

Just stop talking please, you’re digging yourself a deeper hole. Take some time off TiBB, watch Loose Women, you’re on here 24/7 with invalid viewpoints

[arista]

You mean Obama forced them into signing the no nuclear weapons treaty 14 years before he became President?


[In the first big foreign policy speech of his presidency,
Obama told a crowd of tens of thousands gathered
in morning sunshine in Prague that America,
as the sole country ever
to fire a nuclear weapon in anger,
bore the moral responsibility for
launching a new era of nuclear disarmament
aimed at eliminating nuclear stockpiles.

His presidency, Obama declared, would see
"America's commitment to seek the peace and
security of a world without nuclear weapons".



https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/apr/05/nuclear-weapons-barack-obama



Most Stupid President Ever

[user104658]

Some clarity on that massive Russian armoured column heading south towards Kyiv.

Close analysis of the latest satellite images by McKenzie Intelligence Services reveals the following:

The convoy is not 40 miles long, it’s a series of logistical ‘packets’ strung out along a major highway from the Belarus border, aiming to link up with Russian units on the northern outskirts of Kyiv.

The convoy appears to be hampered in several places by broken down vehicles.

The column consists of some armour (tanks) and infantry fighting vehicles but mainly logistical vehicles, implying plans for more than just a brief battle.

Separately, the imagery examined by McKenzie Intelligence Services shows a Russian parachute battalion dug in to the area of Hostomel airfield - Ukraine's most important international cargo airport and a key military airbase near Kyiv.

But their artillery is assessed to be outside the range of most of the capital.

The analysts say they have noted very little Russian progress over the past 24 hours.

Tanks (for obvious reasons) absolutely churn through fuel - it seems that the supply lines are struggling to keep them moving over these longer stretches. Personally i think this entire thing is going to end up being decided based on logistics... if Russia can keep their vehicles fuelled and their troops fed then it's going to get harder and harder for Ukraine to hold out. If they can't... ... Russian troop morale is going to drop, fast.

[The Slim Reaper]

Both main parties being right wing, is really having an adverse affect on the humanity of this country.

1498644471998820364

[arista]

Just stop talking please, you’re digging yourself a deeper hole. Take some time off TiBB, watch Loose Women, you’re on here 24/7 with invalid viewpoints



Did not watch Loose Women.
Got it from a Tweet.


You do not like me
best you put me on ignore
much better way for you

[arista]

so you think britain should have surrendered to Germany in ww2 do you.


No

You do not understand

[arista]

New Batman Film
pulled from Russia Cinemas
by Warner Bros.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Both main parties being right wing, is really having an adverse affect on the humanity of this country.

1498644471998820364

I will tell you Gary

We have become a country that pays you £1,500,000 per year for doing a 1.5 hour football show once a week

when the average Ukrainian gets £8,000 a year


:skull:

[The Slim Reaper]

I will tell you Gary

We have become a country that pays you £1,500,000 per year for doing a 1.5 hour football show once a week

when the average Ukrainian gets £8,000 a year


:skull:

Those things are irrelevant to the question being asked.

[MTVN]

1498698713677680646

[The Slim Reaper]

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[bots]

Ukraine's president has aired his frustration on Twitter over the missile strike on the Babyn Yar Holocaust Memorial Centre in Kyiv.

It is built on Europe's largest mass grave of the Holocaust, where Nazi death squads killed more than 33,000 Jewish people in the space of just two days in 1941.

Volodymyr Zelensky tweeted on Tuesday, saying: "What is the point of saying 'never again' for 80 years, if the world stays silent when a bomb drops on the same site of Babyn Yar? At least five killed. History repeating."

[MTVN]

Not really sure what the government is afraid of in widening its offer to refugees. Do we think we're such an attractive destination that every single one of them will come here instead of staying in mainland Europe closer to their families and home country? I think in practice it would mainly be those with family ties who came to the UK anyway so I don't think there's much to lose by matching the EU policy

[bots]

Not really sure what the government is afraid of in widening its offer to refugees. Do we think we're such an attractive destination that every single one of them will come here instead of staying in mainland Europe closer to their families and home country? I think in practice it would mainly be those with family ties who came to the UK anyway so I don't think there's much to lose by matching the EU policy

i agree, most will stay close to ukraine rather than coming all the way to the uk. If they have family here, then great

[arista]

Not really sure what the government is afraid of in widening its offer to refugees. Do we think we're such an attractive destination that every single one of them will come here instead of staying in mainland Europe closer to their families and home country? I think in practice it would mainly be those with family ties who came to the UK anyway so I don't think there's much to lose by matching the EU policy


It is to do with Security Reasons
not letting Active Terrorist in with the Rush.
The Home Secretary
said yesterday.

[MTVN]

It is to do with Security Reasons
not letting Active Terrorist in with the Rush.
The Home Secretary
said yesterday.

Since when has there been a big terror threat from Ukraine especially amongst what will be mainly woman and children?

[MTVN]

Ukraine has organised a highly effective resistance to an invasion by one of the biggest armies in the world basically on the fly and we can't even organise a refugee policy

[Cherie]

Ukraine has organised a highly effective resistance to an invasion by one of the biggest armies in the world basically on the fly and we can't even organise a refugee policy

Too many people in jobs they are useless at

[arista]

Since when has there been a big terror threat from Ukraine especially amongst what will be mainly woman and children?


But Foreign Men
get out of that nation.


They have Data that says some (Active Terrorists) could enter the UK
if we let so many more in without checks

[Alf]

1498310009305899010A very nice, sweet guy.

He reminds me of Trump in a way, neither of them like war. Difference between them is. Trump would stand up to those that engaged in it with power. Jezza would leave us as sitting ducks.

[arista]

Ukraine has organised a highly effective resistance to an invasion by one of the biggest armies in the world basically on the fly and we can't even organise a refugee policy


Sure but
Dropping a Cluster bomb on them
would take loads out.

[arista]

A Russian in Ukraine
burnt his passport
In front of a crowd

Next to a metal bin


Was on Gravitas Part 2 WION HD

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

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[arista]

Of Course
Slim



Peter is a Socialist / Union Fella

[The Slim Reaper]

Of Course
Slim



Peter is a Socialist / Union Fella

His political beliefs don't alter what Johnson is saying on the video.

For example - you've agreed with the government line that human rights lawyers protecting vulnerable people are the dangerous lawyers, but here's a conservative MP, completely nailing it.

1498718003822841864

[arista]

Yes Bob is good guy.

[arista]

BBC1 Local News is at 7PM


BBC1 6PM Main News keeps doing one hour news

The one show goes to BBC2HD 7PM

[arista]

[Kyiv TV tower is hit by Russian bombs which also
strike Babyn Yar Holocaust memorial,
killing at least five after
Kremlin issued chilling threat telling civilians
to flee or die as military begins
bombarding 'strategic' targets]


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/01/18/54813991-10564973-Explosions_erupted_around_the_capital_s_1_300ft_TV _tower_this_af-a-17_1646158867690.jpg


Easy Target.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10564973/Ukraine-war-Russia-tells-civilians-evacuate-Kyiv-airstrikes.html

[arista]

[Pakistan's helping hand to
warmonger Putin: Imran Khan shamelessly offers
to import two million tons of wheat
AND buy gas from Russia... just as Western sanctions
are dealing devastating blow to its economy]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/01/14/54806929-10563533-image-a-16_1646145629889.jpg
[Imran Khan (pictured with Putin last week) said
that 'God willing' the trade deal will be good for Pakistan,
which stands alone in supporting the
Kremlin financially since it declared war]

[Crimson Dynamo]

C5ZXTF2phNU

[Kizzy]

china does billions of trade with europe and the usa. It does a fraction of that with russia.
Yes but that could change, what I'm saying is maybe putin isnt so worried about sanctions because of his new alliance?

[bots]

Yes but that could change, what I'm saying is maybe putin isnt so worried about sanctions because of his new alliance?


it's not in chinas interests. If the west started putting pressure on china, china would come running back to the west. China trade with russia is trivial. China needs the west, so it can't all change

The oil/gas pipelines between russia and china are already running at capacity and that is russias biigest export. In 5-10 years that might be different, but certainly not in the short-medium term

[Kizzy]

it's not in chinas interests. If the west started putting pressure on china, china would come running back to the west. China trade with russia is trivial. China needs the west, so it can't all change

What makes you so certain? Why do they need the west. We need them more we don't make anything here anymore and European goods and services will be out of our price range now.

[Denver]

What makes you so certain? Why do they need the west. We need them more we don't make anything here anymore and European goods and services will be out of our price range now.

Because Russia don't have the money that the west have fo a start so it would take a huge hit to China and then Russia doesn't have any great exports outside of the oil/gas exports

[Oliver_W]

To be fair, this whole thing will probably be over within a couple of weeks, why should the refugees come all the way here when they can go home soon? Makes more sense for them to be nearby.

[Kizzy]

Because Russia don't have the money that the west have fo a start so it would take a huge hit to China and then Russia doesn't have any great exports outside of the oil/gas exports
What does the UK export?

[bots]

To be fair, this whole thing will probably be over within a couple of weeks, why should the refugees come all the way here when they can go home soon? Makes more sense for them to be nearby.

you have got to be kidding, this is going to go on for years. People seem to think its over when russia take kyiv and nothing could be further from the truth. The war will change but it will still be a war with ukranians being funded by the west. Putin can't afford to keep his troops deployed in ukraine for long, russia will never hold ukraine for any length of time

[Denver]

What does the UK export?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exports_of_the_United_Kingdom

[Denver]

What does the UK export?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exports_of_the_United_Kingdom

Compared to Russia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exports_of_Russia


They are reliant on fuel which the world is moving away from anyway so they will really struggle in years to come

[user104658]

Advanced economies do t rely on exports, that's the point really. Manufacturing economies (like China) do... But its not as simple as "they need the west" or "we need them more"... It's currently just both. We (meaning Europe and the US - consumer economies) for better or worse have a symbiotic relation ship with manufacturing economies. We need stuff they make, they need to sell us their stuff. Swapping us out for Russia just isn't a thing... It's a population of 150 million with a 10k GDP. Europe + USA is a population of over 1 billion, with GDP's ranging from 30 - 60k. So you're really talking a marketplace 15x to 20x the size of Russia.

It's like when Brexiteers were crowing about trade deals with Australia and Canada like they were decent substitutes for the entire EU.

[user104658]

you have got to be kidding, this is going to go on for years. People seem to think its over when russia take kyiv and nothing could be further from the truth. The war will change but it will still be a war with ukranians being funded by the west. Putin can't afford to keep his troops deployed in ukraine for long, russia will never hold ukraine for any length of timeEven if it could hold out as an occupying force for years, we've literally just had a very clear example of what happens as soon as that stops with the Afghanistan withdrawal. As soon as the occupying force leaves the country snaps right back.

[Kizzy]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exports_of_the_United_Kingdom

Compared to Russia

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_exports_of_Russia

They are reliant on fuel which the world is moving away from anyway so they will really struggle in years to come

We export gold?... how we don't have goldmines :/ and blood? So when you donate blood it's sold? Ffs!


Plastics and pesticides? So we produce the stuff that's killing the planet? Sounds about right.

[Zizu]

We export gold?... how we don't have goldmines :/ and blood? So when you donate blood it's sold? Ffs!


Plastics and pesticides? So we produce the stuff that's killing the planet? Sounds about right.


There are goldmines in Scotland I think !!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Kizzy]

There are goldmines in Scotland I think !!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Surely they aren't mining enough to flog it worldwide? Wouldn't we keep it in our gold reserves?

[thesheriff443]

Gold as you do or don’t know comes from space .

[bots]

there are gold mine(s) in wales if i'm not mistaken. They don't produce a lot, but it can be a days entertainment

[Kizzy]

So we have a few flakes of Welsh space gold? Who would want to buy that?

[bots]

"We've news of more action being taken by Apple. The tech giant has paused sales of its products in Russia, the company has announced.

The company has also limited its payments system, Apple Pay, and other services including live-traffic tracking, according to the Reuters news agency.

The BBC's Ukrainian service reports that consumers in Russia attempting to buy an iPhone, watch or MacBook on the company's website are greeted with a message saying that delivery of the goods is impossible.

The move by Apple comes after Ukrainian Vice Prime Minister Mykhailo Fedorov disclosed earlier this week that he had sent a letter to the company's chairman Tim Cook asking that Apple be blocked from Russia."

[Alf]

jCK2_1ZWBEo

[Alf]

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[The Slim Reaper]

Gold as you do or don’t know comes from space .

That's because everything comes from space.

[thesheriff443]

That's because everything comes from space.

Some will and won’t know that either because some don’t know how planets are formed.

[The Slim Reaper]

Some will and won’t know that either because some don’t know how planets are formed.

Pretty sure everyone but creationists understand that, but fair play for attempting to educate the masses.

[thesheriff443]

So we have a few flakes of Welsh space gold? Who would want to buy that?

Since gold is at a near all time high, you don’t need a lot of gold to make a lot of money.

[thesheriff443]

Pretty sure everyone but creationists understand that, but fair play for attempting to educate the masses.

I’m not attempting to educate anyone.

[letmein]

The Stupid Former President Obama
caused all this.

Years ago he Forced Ukraine
to give up its Nuke weapons


FACT.

This is one of the most ignorant statements I’ve ever read on here. The former president, Trump, did everything Putin demanded including saying that Crimea wanted to be annexed, giving Russia classified intelligence, did nothing when Putin placed bounties on US soldiers, and withheld $400 million in aid to Ukraine to defend itself against Russia which resulted in his impeachment. You have some nerve.

FACT.

[glib]

To be fair, this whole thing will probably be over within a couple of weeks, why should the refugees come all the way here when they can go home soon? Makes more sense for them to be nearby.

No,’it won’t.

[glib]

This is one of the most ignorant statements I’ve ever read on here. The former president, Trump, did everything Putin demanded including saying that Crimea wanted to be annexed, giving Russia classified intelligence, did nothing when Putin placed bounties on US soldiers, and withheld $400 million in aid to Ukraine to defend itself against Russia which resulted in his impeachment. You have some nerve.

FACT.

Well said letmein

[Denver]

The Belarusian dictator has revealed Moldova will be invaded next

[Denver]

Ukraine has destroyed an 800 vehicle convoy from Russia

[Denver]

1498805592068136960?t=_TXfxh6KeuPfV8M967lTtA&s

Russia has made an attack on a Slovenia Consulate in Ukraine, Slovenia are part of Nato but it isn't yet clear if it was an attended attack or misjudged attack

[Denver]

1498805592068136960?t=_TXfxh6KeuPfV8M967lTtA&s

Russia has made an attack on a Slovenia Consulate in Ukraine, Slovenia are part of Nato but it isn't yet clear if it was an intended attack or misjudged attack

[glib]

1498805592068136960?t=_TXfxh6KeuPfV8M967lTtA&s

Russia has made an attack on a Slovenia Consulate in Ukraine, Slovenia are part of Nato but it isn't yet clear if it was an attended attack or misjudged attack

Attended?

Definitely purposeful, just a day after they announce they will accept 200,000 Ukrainians

The thing about Slovenia is not only is it quite small and unimportant diplomatically, and the rest of Europe won’t pay much attention to this (unlike maybe if it was the Polish consulate)but is also former Yugoslavia and Putin having a dig at it

[glib]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60582210

Biden upcoming speech

Will Ukraine end up becoming divided by the US and Russia just like Germany?

[Denver]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-60582210

Biden upcoming speech

Will Ukraine end up becoming divided by the US and Russia just like Germany?

Ukraine will always rise, for hundreds and hundreds if years its been invaded and colonised by many countries yets always come back out the other end with its freedom

[arista]

The Stupid Former President Obama
caused all this.

Years ago he Forced Ukraine
to give up its Nuke weapons


Sadly it is True.


Trump was not part of that.
Fact.

[glib]

The Stupid Former President Obama
caused all this.

Years ago he Forced Ukraine
to give up its Nuke weapons


Sadly it is True.


Trump was not part of that.
Fact.

You already claimed this earlier, repeating it again makes it no truer.

[arista]

[Did Ukraine ever have nukes?
As a result, between 1994 and 1996 Ukraine
gave up its nuclear weapons.
In May 1996 Ukraine saw
the last of its nuclear arms transported back to Russia.]

[arista]

You already claimed this earlier, repeating it again makes it no truer.

For the sake of the other poster

Trump was not part of that.
Fact.


Ukraine’s nuclear regret: A look back at when and why Kyiv gave up its arsenal
https://www.firstpost.com/world/ukraines-nuclear-regret-a-look-back-at-when-and-why-kyiv-gave-up-its-arsenal-10406341.html

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/C181/production/_123473594_thetimes-nc.png

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/4C51/production/_123473591_mail-nc.png

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/159D9/production/_123473588_telegraph-nc.png

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/180E9/production/_123473589_guardian-nc.png

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/132C9/production/_123473587_metro-nc.png

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/10BB9/production/_123473586_ft-nc.png

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/9A71/production/_123473593_sun-nc.png

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/2541/production/_123473590_i-nc.png

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/F6AB/production/_123474136_express-nc.png

[bots]

all the news reporters have stopped reporting from kyiv and have moved to the west of the country

[arista]

all the news reporters have stopped reporting from kyiv and have moved to the west of the country




That makes good sense