Russian Invasion of the Ukraine - The Official WW3 Thread

[Beso]

I'm more concerned about russian tvs, thank you much.

[Denver]

4 active British Military personnel have gone awol and have headed to Ukraine to help the fight against Russia, one is a teenage Queens Guardsman who deserted his post over the weekend

[arista]

[KFC has one of the largest footprints in Russia
with more than 1,000 locations.]

Pressure mounts on KFC
to shutter its 1,000 Russian restaurants
as McDonald's Coca-Cola, Starbucks
and Pepsi ALL halt business there indefinitely
over Ukraine invasion

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10591047/McDonalds-temporarily-close-850-stores-Russia.html


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/08/19/55108035-10591047-image-a-44_1646769209673.jpg
McDonald's, like this one in Moscow,
and across Russia and Ukraine account for
9 percent of McDonald's annual revenue.
Now they are closing


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/08/19/55109549-10591047-image-a-40_1646769158233.jpg

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

4 active British Military personnel have gone awol and have headed to Ukraine to help the fight against Russia, one is a teenage Queens Guardsman who deserted his post over the weekend


https://livecenterimagesnorth.azureedge.net/lc-images-2021/lcimg-d997ab1d-011e-4b60-910e-ce267431f958.jpg?bypass-service-worker&

[arista]

The Online Paper

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/08/18/55107709-10588875-image-a-19_1646765832374.jpg
[Ukrainian children, trapped in the besieged
port city of Mariupol, hiding in shelters from
Russian bombs as the occupiers continued
their indiscriminate bombing campaigns]

[arista]

Many of the last to be Evacuated
were residents of an old peoples home.
Waiting in the Cold for a Yellow Bus.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/08/18/55107299-10590233-image-a-24_1646763834823.jpg


Some of them remember the German War.



Reported on CNN HD

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/08/17/55086493-10590233-Defence_Secretary_Ben_Wallace_today_declared_he_be lieves_Vladimi-a-109_1646760623456.jpg


President Putin
carry's on with the Evil
Missile attacks

[Kizzy]

Many of the last to be Evacuated
were residents of an old peoples home.
Waiting in the Cold for a Yellow Bus.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/08/18/55107299-10590233-image-a-24_1646763834823.jpg


Some of them remember the German War.



Reported on CNN HD

:( poor lady I really hope she has a warm bed tonight

[arista]

:( poor lady I really hope she has a warm bed tonight


CNN HD
reported they waited for hours in the freezing cold
outside.
Waiting for a Yellow Bus
to take them to a safe home.
They also reported when they got on a bus
some had to lay down.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/08/23/55119497-0-image-a-36_1646783307311.jpg


[Four British soldiers are feared to have gone AWOL
to fight Vladimir Putin's invading forces in Ukraine
A 19-year-old member of the Queen's Guard
signed up for Ukraine's International Legion
of foreign fighters
The move has sparked panic at the Ministry of Defence,
with security chiefs racing to intercept the teenager
Fears are high that Russia could claim Britain has
entered the war if UK army soldiers are found in Ukraine]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10591973/FOUR-UK-squaddies-AWOL-fight-Ukraine-including-19-year-old-Queens-Guard.html


This is all we need 4 Squaddies
starting WW3

[glib]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/08/23/55119497-0-image-a-36_1646783307311.jpg


[Four British soldiers are feared to have gone AWOL
to fight Vladimir Putin's invading forces in Ukraine
A 19-year-old member of the Queen's Guard
signed up for Ukraine's International Legion
of foreign fighters
The move has sparked panic at the Ministry of Defence,
with security chiefs racing to intercept the teenager
Fears are high that Russia could claim Britain has
entered the war if UK army soldiers are found in Ukraine]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10591973/FOUR-UK-squaddies-AWOL-fight-Ukraine-including-19-year-old-Queens-Guard.html


This is all we need 4 Squaddies
starting WW3

4 chavs

Probably in a Russian torture chamber giving information

[Alf]

They didn't exist a week ago now they may fall into Russian hands.

If anything happens with them it will definitely be because of the Russians, honestly. Would we lie to you?


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[Alf]

A couple of reports I saw yesterday.

A kid failed to take his homework into School after The Russians had stolen it.

A guy was late for work after the Russians pressed the snooze button 3 times on his alarm clock.

[Toy Soldier]

A couple of reports I saw yesterday.

A kid failed to take his homework into School after The Russians had stolen it.

A guy was late for work after the Russians pressed the snooze button 3 times on his alarm clock.

You forgot "Russia shut down ITV so no one could watch a You've Been Framed rerun from 1996" :joker:

[Alf]

If shutting down Russian oil pipeline is damaging for them. Then who's it damaging for when we shut down our pipelines here in the West?

[bots]

russia now have sufficient pretext to fight against nato if that's what putin wants to do. He can claim nato interference and aggression toward russia as justification.

The only question that remains is will he do it or not

[arista]

In the Press

A Russian School kid
told his class, The Ukrainians are not Nazi.

He went Home.
His mother was at work.

Russian Police banged on his door
he refused to open.

They Cut the Power to the flat
and left a note saying the Parent must
come in for questioning.


Sign Of The Times

[Livia]

russia now have sufficient pretext to fight against nato if that's what putin wants to do. He can claim nato interference and aggression toward russia as justification.

The only question that remains is will he do it or not

Russia is skating on thin ice having violated the post World War 2 International Legal order. They also claimed genocide in eastern Ukraine and used that as justification for invasion but that has no legal merit at all. Russia's actions breach the legal principle of the prohibition of use of force, laid down in article 2 (4) of the UN Charter.

No one wants to go to war, but personally, I think sanctions will not be enough because China will bankroll them, and NATO is either going to have to put boots on the ground in the end, or this war will not only spread, but drag on for decades and costs millions of lives.

Just my opinion, of course.

[arista]

Ukrainian MP's
keep saying World War 3 has started


They are Bonkers
sure for them, it is Hell,
but we are not at War

[bots]

Russia is skating on thin ice having violated the post World War 2 International Legal order. They also claimed genocide in eastern Ukraine and used that as justification for invasion but that has no legal merit at all. Russia's actions breach the legal principle of the prohibition of use of force, laid down in article 2 (4) of the UN Charter.

No one wants to go to war, but personally, I think sanctions will not be enough because China will bankroll them, and NATO is either going to have to put boots on the ground in the end, or this war will not only spread, but drag on for decades and costs millions of lives.

Just my opinion, of course.

i agree, i've been saying for a bit now that we are already at war, we just don't admit it yet. Sanctions may not legally be classified as war, but when they cripple a country's economy, it is war. We are arming the ukranians and even offering them attacking jets. It doesn't need boots on the ground on the battlefield to be at war

[Livia]

i agree, i've been saying for a bit now that we are already at war, we just don't admit it yet. Sanctions may not legally be classified as war, but when they cripple a country's economy, it is war. We are arming the ukranians and even offering them attacking jets. It doesn't need boots on the ground on the battlefield to be at war

Agree with all that. Although I do think, sooner or later, boots on the ground will have to become a reality.

[Alf]

They didn't exist a week ago now they may fall into Russian hands.

If anything happens with them it will definitely be because of the Russians, honestly. Would we lie to you?


1501313109520175104Why does the US have bio-labs in Ukraine? What's in these bio-labs that Russia could cause havoc with if they get their hands of them?

We need to know more about these bio-labs. They seem like a vital clue into what the F is happening.

[Livia]

Alf, you think the USA is responsible for the Russian invasion?

Your theories are getting wilder....

[Alf]

Alf, you think the USA is responsible for the Russian invasion?

Your theories are getting wilder....It's not a theory. I shared a video from the US senate with them admitting there are Bio-labs. I'm just sharing it and asking questions

[Alf]

Did you read the small print?

Slight of hand.


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[arista]

Alf stop putting Remixes on.

[Alf]

Alf stop putting Remixes on.I think it's just incase people couldn't hear what he said. Blame Right Said Fred, they posted it. I just shared it with you because I'm generous.

I couldn't hear him, what did he say?

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/09/11/55140035-0-image-m-8_1646826911921.jpg

[bots]

Ukraine's state run nuclear company says electricity supplies to the former power plant at Chernobyl have been cut and has warned that radioactive substances could be released, because spent nuclear fuel cannot be cooled.

In a post of the telegram messaging app, Energoatom says a high-voltage line feeding the plant was disconnected after it was damaged during Russia's seizure of the station nearly two weeks ago.

Ukraine's Energy Minister German Galushchenko told the BBC that Ukraine has no access to monitoring information at the station and therefore cannot evaluate whether any radioactive substances are being released.

"We need to repair it as quickly as we can," Galushchenko said. But he added that there is "a special system of security in case of electricity cuts" which will allow the plant to operate for several days using diesel generators.

Earlier, the IAEA said it had stopped receiving monitoring data from the plant and warned that Ukrainian authorities had told them the plant's staff of about 210 workers have been on duty constantly for the past two weeks.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/09/01/55121827-10592463-image-a-41_1646788428642.jpg

A Young Russian Troop


[Temperatures are set to plunge
in coming days - down to as low as -20C with wind chill]

[arista]

[Ukraine's state run nuclear company says electricity supplies to the former power plant at Chernobyl have been cut and has warned that radioactive substances could be released, because spent nuclear fuel cannot be cooled.]

Terrible

[Kizzy]

Effectively there is 48hrs to restore power or there will be leaks affecting both Russia and Europe.

[Zizu]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/09/01/55121827-10592463-image-a-41_1646788428642.jpg

A Young Russian Troop


[Temperatures are set to plunge
in coming days - down to as low as -20C with wind chill]


That should slow everything down somewhat - surely machinery and weapons may not function as meant at -20c ( that minus 70F to us old timers)


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[Zizu]

Ukraine's state run nuclear company says electricity supplies to the former power plant at Chernobyl have been cut and has warned that radioactive substances could be released, because spent nuclear fuel cannot be cooled.

In a post of the telegram messaging app, Energoatom says a high-voltage line feeding the plant was disconnected after it was damaged during Russia's seizure of the station nearly two weeks ago.

Ukraine's Energy Minister German Galushchenko told the BBC that Ukraine has no access to monitoring information at the station and therefore cannot evaluate whether any radioactive substances are being released.

"We need to repair it as quickly as we can," Galushchenko said. But he added that there is "a special system of security in case of electricity cuts" which will allow the plant to operate for several days using diesel generators.

Earlier, the IAEA said it had stopped receiving monitoring data from the plant and warned that Ukrainian authorities had told them the plant's staff of about 210 workers have been on duty constantly for the past two weeks.


I heard that it only takes a few days to cool the stuff down and then it’s stable so hopefully it may be ok


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[Zizu]

Effectively there is 48hrs to restore power or there will be leaks affecting both Russia and Europe.


We need to repair it as quickly as we can," Galushchenko said. But he added that there is "a special system of security in case of electricity cuts" which will allow the plant to operate for several days using diesel generators.


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[Kizzy]

The Ukrainian foreign minister, Dmytro Kuleba, said reserve diesel generators at Chernobyl nuclear power plant had a 48-hour capacity.

After that, cooling systems of the storage facility for spent nuclear fuel will stop, making radiation leaks imminent.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2022/mar/09/ukraine-news-russia-war-ceasefire-broken-humanitarian-corridors-kyiv-russian-invasion-live-vladimir-putin-volodymyr-zelenskiy-latest-updates

[MTVN]

Remember the plant has not been in use for over 20 years and that a huge amount of work has been done to make it safer since the accident. It sounds scary what's happening there but I don't think there's the prospect of a major nuclear disaster

[MTVN]

BBC:

But in a statement issued on Wednesday, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) sought to calm fears.

"Due to time elapsed since the 1986 Chernobyl accident, the heat load of the spent fuel storage pool and the volume of cooling water contained in the pool is sufficient to maintain effective heat removal without the need for electrical supply."

Meanwhile, radiation levels around the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant - the largest in Europe - and which was seized by Russian forces last week, are said to be normal.

Repairs are being carried out on a block damaged by fighting, Petro Kotin, the head of state nuclear firm Energoatom, said.

[Crimson Dynamo]

[QUOTE=Zizu;11144174]That should slow everything down somewhat - surely machinery and weapons may not function as meant at -20c ( that minus 70F to us old timers)

No it isnt its -4 F

[MTVN]

Why does the US have bio-labs in Ukraine? What's in these bio-labs that Russia could cause havoc with if they get their hands of them?

We need to know more about these bio-labs. They seem like a vital clue into what the F is happening.

They're labs from the Soviet era

[bots]

BBC:

But in a statement issued on Wednesday, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) sought to calm fears.

"Due to time elapsed since the 1986 Chernobyl accident, the heat load of the spent fuel storage pool and the volume of cooling water contained in the pool is sufficient to maintain effective heat removal without the need for electrical supply."

Meanwhile, radiation levels around the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant - the largest in Europe - and which was seized by Russian forces last week, are said to be normal.

Repairs are being carried out on a block damaged by fighting, Petro Kotin, the head of state nuclear firm Energoatom, said.

the biggest problem from Chernobyl was radioactive dust. Providing that stays sealed, there will be little to no exposure

The other nuclear plant is much more modern and has many more safety features. The biggest one being that there is no dust in the process, so even if there were a leak, it wouldnt disperse radiation the way Chernobyl did in the 80's.


Just as an aside, if nukes were fired off, once you get outside the blast zone, the biggest issue is radioactive dust and that can be maximised if it an in air explosion rather than a ground explosion

[Kizzy]

BBC:

But in a statement issued on Wednesday, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) sought to calm fears.

"Due to time elapsed since the 1986 Chernobyl accident, the heat load of the spent fuel storage pool and the volume of cooling water contained in the pool is sufficient to maintain effective heat removal without the need for electrical supply."

Meanwhile, radiation levels around the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant - the largest in Europe - and which was seized by Russian forces last week, are said to be normal.

Repairs are being carried out on a block damaged by fighting, Petro Kotin, the head of state nuclear firm Energoatom, said.

Do you have a link to that statement? I can't find it. According to the website this is the latest.

https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/update-15-iaea-director-general-statement-on-situation-in-ukraine

[MTVN]

Do you have a link to that statement? I can't find it. According to the website this is the latest.

https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/pressreleases/update-15-iaea-director-general-statement-on-situation-in-ukraine

Yeah it was from the BBC live feed

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60657155?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=6228a40e0ce87e491a0eebed%26Ukraine%20c alls%20for%20ceasefire%20to%20repair%20Chernobyl%2 62022-03-09T13%3A22%3A10.938Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:3edff49d-1fd3-49c4-8009-1a0a35c74fc8&pinned_post_asset_id=6228a40e0ce87e491a0eebed&pinned_post_type=share

[Zizu]

[QUOTE=Zizu;11144174]That should slow everything down somewhat - surely machinery and weapons may not function as meant at -20c ( that minus 70F to us old timers)

No it isnt its -4 F

Crazy :)


I never really got to grips with Celsius

It’s still below freezing so my point may still
stand ??

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[Alf]

They're labs from the Soviet eraDo you have any information on them?

Why is the lady in the senate video I posted worried that Russia will get their hands on them?

What is in them?

Who worked in them?

[MTVN]

Do you have any information on them?

Why is the lady in the senate video I posted worried that Russia will get their hands on them?

What is in them?

Who worked in them?

The labs at issue are part of a network of facilities with links to the Biological Threat Reduction Program, an element of a US government effort that began in the 1990s to reduce the threat of the former Soviet Union’s weapons of mass destruction programs, including in countries like Ukraine that had once been a part of the communist country. The Soviet Union maintained a massive bioweapons program and part of the role of the US-linked labs is to take custody over left-over supplies, as is the case with a central reference laboratory in Kazakhstan. Disease surveillance and public health have since become the major focus of labs in the network

https://thebulletin.org/2022/02/russian-media-spreading-disinformation-about-us-bioweapons-as-troops-mass-near-ukraine/

[Kizzy]

Yeah it was from the BBC live feed

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-europe-60657155?ns_mchannel=social&ns_source=twitter&ns_campaign=bbc_live&ns_linkname=6228a40e0ce87e491a0eebed%26Ukraine%20c alls%20for%20ceasefire%20to%20repair%20Chernobyl%2 62022-03-09T13%3A22%3A10.938Z&ns_fee=0&pinned_post_locator=urn:asset:3edff49d-1fd3-49c4-8009-1a0a35c74fc8&pinned_post_asset_id=6228a40e0ce87e491a0eebed&pinned_post_type=share

Ah right it was last Wednesday then not today.

[bots]

the russians have just shelled a ****ing childrens hospital

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[arista]

the russians have just shelled a ****ing childrens hospital



Yes The Russian Missiles
Are Fired in all directions in the South.

[arista]

USA has now said it has not agreed to supply Poland
with new F-16 jets

So they supply Ukraine with MiG jets



[The Pentagon has dismissed Poland’s plan to
hand the US its MiG-29 fighter jets
to boost Ukraine’s fight against Russia,
as Moscow officials said they were
ready to provide humanitarian corridors
on Wednesday morning for people
fleeing Kyiv and four other cities.

Washington appeared surprised by
the announcement by Polish foreign minister, Zbigniew Rau,
who said on Tuesday that his government
was “ready to deploy – immediately and
free of charge – all their MiG-29 jets to the Ramstein
airbase and place them at the disposal of the
government of the United States of America.”

The Pentagon appeared to reject
the proposal, saying it was not “tenable”.]


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/mar/08/poland-mig-29-jets-us-ukraine

[UserSince2005]

sick, how many more atrocities before action?

[Cherie]

This has to be deliberate provocation surely...these are not accidental

[arista]

Liz Truss, Foreign Secretary, Live in Washington DC
now with Blinken


Conference on Ukraine



On all 3 News Channels

[UserSince2005]

I want to know what happened to the British people who were refusing to leave before the invasion, I remember seeing quite a few people doing interviews on the news dismissing the UKs advice to leave.

[Beso]

the russians have just shelled a ****ing childrens hospital

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According to Ukrainian officials...

Myself, I just cant see russia or putin bombing a children's ward..even if its nazi children..nobod would..


Apart from the fishy smelling as the days go by Ukrainian officials..certain things ain't adding up in my head..like the pictures of the bombed blocks of flats...themissile landed directly in the middle of the block, in all 3 cases I've seen..imo that's deliberate to cause least casualties and damage to property.

It all seems a bit staged to me.:shrug:

[arista]

I want to know what happened to the British people who were refusing to leave before the invasion, I remember seeing quite a few people doing interviews on the news dismissing the UKs advice to leave.


Yes sad they refused to leave
some had good reason
their partner is born there
so not easy for both to get in.


Like all those people in Calais
are in the wrong place.
The UK will now not set up a pop up near there,
as the Criminal Smuggler gangs are there.

There is a place 70miles away
but you need an appointment.
So it's Paris UK Embassy team
helping some.

[Beso]

Most fleeing Ukrainians have fled to Hungary, and I'm sure they are rather right leaning if I'm not mistaken.

[arista]

[Myself, I just cant see Russia or Putin bombing a children's ward.]


Sure they do not Aim at that
But these massive Russian Missiles hit loads of places
it should not.


It was verified by International news teams



This is a Russian Attacking Ukraine War.

[bots]

According to Ukrainian officials...

Myself, I just cant see russia or putin bombing a children's ward..even if its nazi children..nobod would..


Apart from the fishy smelling as the days go by Ukrainian officials..certain things ain't adding up in my head..like the pictures of the bombed blocks of flats...themissile landed directly in the middle of the block, in all 3 cases I've seen..imo that's deliberate to cause least casualties and damage to property.

It all seems a bit staged to me.:shrug:

russia have previous form for levelling cities and targeting civilians. This is what they do when they dont make the progress they want

[Beso]

[Myself, I just cant see Russia or Putin bombing a children's ward.]


Sure they do not Aim at that
But these massive Russian Missiles hit loads of places
it should not.


It was verified by International news teams



This is a Russian Attacking Ukraine War.



It was, and is..but it wont be the first time fake news has been used in a dirty way.

[Beso]

russia have previous form for levelling cities and targeting civilians. This is what they do when they dont make the progress they want

I'm just saying everything looks to staged to me, in a lot of clips I'm seeing.:shrug:

[arista]

It was, and is..but it wont be the first time fake news has been used in a dirty way.


What are you saying?

Ukrainians Bombed their own children's hospital?


Are you turning into a Alf?

[Beso]

What are you saying?

Ukrainians Bombed their own children's hospital?


Are you turning into a Alf?



I'm saying they may have, today.

Perhaps tomorrow I will think differently...

If I was alf I would be posting in a very interesting musical thread.. so no, as of yet I have not turned into Alf.

[Beso]

What if Putin's right?

What if all the combatant clothing generals we see, and all the fleeing to the extreme right wing led Hungary nation ties in with Putin's narrative.


Like I said, some things just ain't sitting right in my head atm, in regards to this.

[arista]

[I'm saying they may have, today.]


You are Very Wrong

[arista]

For Kizzy and Slim

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNWpg43UYAIhV73?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

What if Putin's right?

He is not, Parmy
this is a land grab
gone wrong.

[UserSince2005]

What if Putin's right?

What if all the combatant clothing generals we see, and all the fleeing to the extreme right wing led Hungary nation ties in with Putin's narrative.


Like I said, some things just ain't sitting right in my head atm, in regards to this.

dont be ridiculous. ive been seeing people in this thread start play with pro russian views. this stops now. completely unacceptable.

[Beso]

For Kizzy and Slim

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNWpg43UYAIhV73?format=jpg&name=900x900

A lot of those women and children would be let in, with complete strangers vouching for them if we didnt follow the correct procedure.

They are out of harm's way now, so lets get it right, and find safe places for everyone we take in when we are ready.

[Beso]

dont be ridiculous. ive been seeing people in this thread start play with pro russian views. this stops now. completely unacceptable.

I'm just speaking about what I see on the news and tv every night...and pondering things.:shrug:

Some may say, musing.

[arista]

A lot of those women and children would be let in, with complete strangers vouching for them if we didnt follow the correct procedure.

They are out of harm's way now, sonnets get it right, and find safe places for everyone we take in when we are ready.


Sure Errors happen
I have posted a reply on this, page before


[Like all those people in Calais
are in the wrong place.
The UK will now not set up a pop up near there,
as the Criminal Smuggler gangs are there.

There is a place 70miles away
but you need an appointment.
So it's Paris UK Embassy team
helping some. ]

[Beso]

[I'm saying they may have, today.]


You are Very Wrong



I probably am.

But what if I'm not? What then.:shrug:

[Beso]

Sure Errors happen
I have posted a reply on this.

Where?

[arista]

Where?



Just added it
to the other reply

[UserSince2005]

I'm just speaking about what I see on the news and tv every night...and pondering things.:shrug:

Some may say, musing.

I came across a reddit group with westerns speaking pro russian views and sharing stuff to back up their views, its actually quite scary that people can convince themselves.
PUTIN IS HITLER.
There are no 2 ways about it.

[arista]

I probably am.

But what if I'm not? What then.:shrug:



It would all go Public.


But it has not

[arista]

[Vice President Kamala Harris heads to Poland amid
clash over fighter jets]

[Beso]

I came across a reddit group with westerns speaking pro russian views and sharing stuff to back up their views, its actually quite scary that people can convince themselves.
PUTIN IS HITLER.
There are no 2 ways about it.

I just saw a figure on bbc news that showed the numbers fleeing to the surrounding countries. Hungary had twice as many as any other neighbouring country, and was only surpassed by the other nations combined group.

It made me think about Putin's reason for entering ukraine, because the Hungarian government are one of the more extreme right wing nations in the world atm.

That's all..I ain't pushing nothing, on a big brother forum.:joker:


Just musing, as is my right.

[arista]

[It made me think about Putin's reason for entering Ukraine, because the Hungarian]


Putin was already in Ukraine
Hungary is nothing to do with this battle

[arista]

Just musing, as is my right.


Sure Parmy
but you can talk better sense

[Beso]

[It made me think about Putin's reason for entering Ukraine, because the Hungarian]


Putin was already in Ukraine
Hungary is nothing to do with this battle

If I was fleeing a load of nazis, I wouldnt be heading to Hungary, unless I was that way leaning myself..

[arista]

If I was fleeing a load of nazis, I wouldnt be heading to Hungary, unless I was that way leaning myself..

Sure
but you are not Fleeing Nazi's.


I posted this on Page 82:
[In the Press

A Russian School kid
told his class, The Ukrainians are not Nazi.
He went Home.
His mother was at work.
Russian Police banged on his door
he refused to open.
They Cut the Power to the flat
and left a note saying the Parent must
come in for questioning.]


Putin is making up rubbish


Watch the Live Special
if you can on 8PM
BBC1HD Wednesday 9th Mar 2022 Ukraine Special, LONDON

[Oliver_W]

Hitler and Nazi comparisons in general, and specifically when applied to this situation make me think people need to learn the name of more than one historic figure :joker: it's not like Hitler was the only person to ever invade a neighbouring country.

Instead of photoshopping on a Hitler tache and combover onto Putin, maybe the tabloids might consider a manky beard and compare him to the ISIS leader du jour?

[UserSince2005]

If I was fleeing a load of nazis, I wouldnt be heading to Hungary, unless I was that way leaning myself..

I think peoples concern at the moment is to not be bombed, I don't think they are considering the current politics of the safe place.
Hungary is known to not be a dangerous country, so if thats where you can go, thats where you go. there nothing more to it than that.
also 100ks of ukrainians speak Hungarian.

[Beso]

I think peoples concern at the moment is to not be bombed, I don't think they are considering the current politics of the safe place.
Hungary is known to not be a dangerous country, so if thats where you can go, thats where you go. there nothing more to it than that.
also 100ks of ukrainians speak Hungarian.


Thanks for that..

Good old tibb..still learning new stuff as you turn a new year.

[UserSince2005]

Hitler and Nazi comparisons in general, and specifically when applied to this situation make me think people need to learn the name of more than one historic figure :joker: it's not like Hitler was the only person to ever invade a neighbouring country.

Instead of photoshopping on a Hitler tache and combover onto Putin, maybe the tabloids might consider a manky beard and compare him to the ISIS leader du jour?

No, i think hitler comparisons suit quite well.

they have had a very similar trajectory

dont embarrass yourself please.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

The Online Paper

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[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/BF6A/production/_123620094_star-nc.png

[arista]

Yesterdays

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNbSxK8XMAAUgcs?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Kizzy]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/4647/production/_123619971_thesun-nc.png

Can't the sun (spit) keep that scrawny 'royal' off the front page for one day?!

[arista]

Yesterday

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNZSESAXoAYCkG-?format=jpg&name=small

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNZSESAXwAAx6-8?format=jpg&name=small

[UserSince2005]

The pictures get worse every day!
Its the Vietnamese Napalm girl every ****ing day!
All Russians are complicit in allowing this man to do what he is doing.

[arista]

Can't the sun (spit) keep that scrawny 'royal' off the front page for one day?!


They see it
as what the public need.

[GoldHeart]

I'm saying they may have, today.

Perhaps tomorrow I will think differently...

If I was alf I would be posting in a very interesting musical thread.. so no, as of yet I have not turned into Alf.

The Ukrainians BOMBED THEMSELVES ????!!! , you actually believe this? :umm2: .

How exactly can it be staged?.

[arista]

The Ukrainians BOMBED THEMSELVES ????!!! , you actually believe this? :umm2: .

How exactly can it be staged?.


Parmy said he was just musing.



It was a Mega Russian Missile

All reporters there
confirmed it

[UserSince2005]

Parmy said he was just musing.



It was a Mega Russian Missile

All reporters there
confirmed it

its not acceptable.

are we going to start musing over whether the holocaust happened also?

[arista]

USA State Dept,
confirmed today they will not supply Poland with replacement jets,
as it makes it a closer USA-Russia War.

So those MIG jets will stay in Poland

[arista]

its not acceptable.

are we going to start musing over whether the holocaust happened also?


Yes, that is across a red line.

[arista]

WARNING: 2 images Shows Dead people

[Mass grave in Mariupol.
Photographer Mstislav Chernov writes
that people cannot bury the dead properly
due to the constant shelling of the city.
March 9, 2022]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/09/18/55153997-0-image-a-22_1646850553638.jpg


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/09/18/55153999-0-image-a-23_1646850556032.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/09/17/55145309-10593177-A_baby_is_evacuated_as_people_flee_near_a_destroye d_bridge_to_cr-a-10_1646848700427.jpg
[A baby is evacuated as people flee near
a destroyed bridge to cross the Irpin River,
on the outskirts of Kyiv,
as Russian forces try to
surround it in ahead of an attack]


Nice for the Mother behind them,
it is a very thin bit of wood
over that broken bridge

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/09/17/55137557-10593177-Over_one_million_people_have_arrived_in_Poland_fro m_Ukraine_sinc-a-4_1646848700377.jpg
[Over one million people have arrived in Poland
from Ukraine since the Russian invasion and some
are journeying on to other countries in Europe]

[arista]

Zelenskyy
has now said he does not want to Join NATO, at all.

Ready to do a deal with Russia.

There is now going to be a new meeting in Turkey



Ref:WION HD/CNN HD

[Nicky91]

The pictures get worse every day!
Its the Vietnamese Napalm girl every ****ing day!
All Russians are complicit in allowing this man to do what he is doing.

umm no

quit this russophobia already

[Toy Soldier]

Zelenskyy
has now said he does not want to Join NATO, at all.


It's really the only way; Russia is never going to agree to anything without a guarantee of military neutrality on that border.

Another thing is, Ukraine could actually thrive as a neutral buffer zone between the West and Russia. Both have a strong interest in maintaining that distance. Frankly... if you take politics out of it and focus purely on the safety of civilians... both should pay Ukraine large sums, annually, to take that position.

[bots]

nato are never going to agree for ukraine to join it in the next 20 years. Countries that join have to be stable and ukraine certainly isnt

[Toy Soldier]

All Russians are complicit in allowing this man to do what he is doing.

This is plainly not true, the Russian people have no sway over the Russian government whatsoever. From what's coming out of Russia, the vast majority of Russian people don't want this to be happening, and with those who do it's because they've fallen for the propaganda. The same as the vast majority of wars tbqfh. These are complex power struggles between a tiny number of people - the civilian population has nothing to do with it.

[bots]

Chelsea FC owner Roman Abramovich has been sanctioned by the UK government as part of its response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine.

He is one of seven oligarchs to be hit with fresh sanctions, including asset freezes and travel bans.

The list also includes billionaires Igor Sechin and Oleg Deripaska, both seen as allies of Vladimir Putin.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson said "there can be no safe havens" for those who have supported the invasion.

-------------------------------------

Thats going to make life at chelsea interesting :laugh:

[Nicky91]

https://www.ruhr24.de/promi-tv/lets-dance-taenzerin-ekaterina-leonova-ukraine-krieg-russland-bastian-bielendorfer-statement-91392160.html


"Let's Dance" 2022: Russian dancer fined over Ukraine war

"Let's Dance" star Ekaterina Leonova comes from Russia. For this, she is now hostile on the net.

Cologne – Ekaterina Leonova (34) is one of the professionals who celebrated her comeback in this season of "Let's Dance". This time, the 34-year-old can try to win the title of "Dancing Star 2022" with Bastian Bielendorfer. Meanwhile, the native Russian has to deal with completely different difficulties because of her origin and the war in Ukraine.

"Let's Dance" star Ekaterina Leonova: Hostility over Ukraine war
The professional dancer has apparently received numerous hate messages. She has now reacted to this both in a post in her Insta story and in a video published by RTL. In her story, she justified herself as follows: "Yes, I was born in Russia, but I am not responsible for politics in this country."

In addition, Ekaterina explained that her family lives only 300 km from the border and therefore of course she is not well with the situation. Nevertheless, around the war in Ukraine, she called for: "Please stop blaming me for Putin's policies! I am for peace!"

"Let's Dance" star Ekaterina Leonova defends herself against hate comments
In her video statement, the 34-year-old first went into more detail about what kind of comments she has to deal with. Apparently, some viewers were bothered by the fact that she danced "in a short dress in front of the camera" while her "country attacks another". She then justified herself with the fact that it was her job (read more news about Celebrity & TV on RUHR24).

In addition, Ekaterina Leonova explained that this profession "connects many people and also people from many nations". Basically, the successful dancer feels it is "a great pity that you now judge by origin". Finally, the "Let's Dance" star wished for peace on social media and peace between all countries of the world.

"Let's Dance" star Ekaterina Leonova distances herself from Putin's politics
While Ekaterina Leonova has distanced herself from the politics and war of Vladimir Putin (69), this is far from true for all celebrities. A much-discussed counter-example is former Chancellor Gerhard Schröder (77). Since he has not yet spoken out against the Russian ruler, Borussia Dortmund, for example, withdrew his honorary membership.

The chief conductor of the Munich Philharmonic, Valery Gergiev (68), also did not distance himself despite an ultimatum. Dieter Reiter (63), Lord Mayor of the City of Munich, then drew the consequences and dismissed him without notice.

https://www.rtl.de/cms/let-s-dance-ekaterina-leonova-wehrt-sich-gegen-hass-ausgeloest-durch-russland-ukraine-krieg-4929626.html



what the **** poor Ekat :( i most definitely cannot see her returning to Russia as long as asshole Putin is still in power there



good decision from Borussia Dortmund though since Schroder hasn't said anything if he is against Putin or not

[arista]

Kamala Harris is Live in Poland.

[UserSince2005]

This is plainly not true, the Russian people have no sway over the Russian government whatsoever. From what's coming out of Russia, the vast majority of Russian people don't want this to be happening, and with those who do it's because they've fallen for the propaganda. The same as the vast majority of wars tbqfh. These are complex power struggles between a tiny number of people - the civilian population has nothing to do with it.

The only Russians who get a pass are those few thousand (max) in jail for protesting, the rest have a special place in hell waiting for them.
They either take a stand against evil or they are evil.
No excuses.
Ukrainians are brave enough to stand up against Putin so no excuses.

[bots]

The only Russians who get a pass are those few thousand (max) in jail for protesting, the rest have a special place in hell waiting for them.
They either take a stand against evil or they are evil.
No excuses.
Ukrainians are brave enough to stand up against Putin so no excuses.

absolute nonsense. I know so many russian people that are against this war.

[UserSince2005]

absolute nonsense. I know so many russian people that are against this war.

Tell them to stand up for what is right then.
Actions not words.
Take down their government.
reading the news and saying "oh no" is not enough.
Actions not words.
I'm sure there were many guards at Hitlers concentration camps who were uncomfortable with what was going, are we giving them a free pass also?

[Toy Soldier]

Tell them to stand up for what is right then.
Actions not words.
Take down their government.

How?

[glib]

How?

A coup just like in SV

[glib]

How?

A coup just like in SV

[bots]

A coup just like in SV

thats not going to happen any time soon. The armed police in russia are formidable. Ordinary people just cant fight against them

[Toy Soldier]

A coup just like in SVA quick and stupid way to die and change nothing.

[Nicky91]

Tell them to stand up for what is right then.
Actions not words.
Take down their government.
reading the news and saying "oh no" is not enough.
Actions not words.
I'm sure there were many guards at Hitlers concentration camps who were uncomfortable with what was going, are we giving them a free pass also?

it is not that easy

[glib]

A quick and stupid way to die and change nothing.

Why wouldn’t it change anything?

[UserSince2005]

Its about doing whats right, not about doing what is easy.
Russians not standing up for what is right has allowed this situation.
Russia as a whole are responsible for this war.

[Toy Soldier]

Why wouldn’t it change anything?Because they'd be captured, tortured and killed. This is the real world not Star Wars.

[Alf]

Its about doing whats right, not about doing what is easy.
Russians not standing up for what is right has allowed this situation.
Russia as a whole are responsible for this war.They've really done a number on you with the propaganda. They've made you hate an entire nation of people, even the disabled people of that country you hate.

I'm surprised you haven't signed up to go and fight and give your life for your masters bank balances.

[arista]

[I'm sure there were many guards at Hitlers concentration
camps who were uncomfortable with what was going,
are we giving them a free pass also?
Last edited by UserSince2005]


Yes a few were,
any Hitlers Guards caught were killed
which in 1943 was fair

[Nicky91]

Because they'd be captured, tortured and killed. This is the real world not Star Wars.

yes, 15 year jail sentences



and not to forget, possibly getting poisoned like Navalny was

[Toy Soldier]

Its about doing whats right, not about doing what is easy.
Russians not standing up for what is right has allowed this situation.
Russia as a whole are responsible for this war.Nonsense, Russia is not a democracy and the people have little to no sway over the actions of the government, nor anything they can do to stop them. The idea that this could all have been averted if some plucky Russians with civilian firearms and a can-do attitude had marched up to the Kremlin doors would be funny if the situation wasn't so dire.

[UserSince2005]

They've really done a number on you with the propaganda. They've made you hate an entire nation of people, even the disabled people of that country you hate.

I'm surprised you haven't signed up to go and fight and give your life for your masters bank balances.

your pro putin clearly so go get your head checked. your either mental or evil, figure it out please

[glib]

Because they'd be captured, tortured and killed. This is the real world not Star Wars.

You do realise SV stands for South Vietnam right? Not ‘Star Wars’…?

[arista]

Talks in Turkey
with the Ukrainian Minister & Lavrov
have ended.

The Russians will Stop attacking them
once they surrender

[Alf]

your pro putin clearly so go get your head checked. your either mental or evil, figure it out pleaseYou're pro Jeffery Epstein.

[glib]

You're pro Jeffery Epstein.

Watch out, Niamh’s going to accuse you of derailing the thread :scared:

[Toy Soldier]

You do realise SV stands for South Vietnam right? Not ‘Star Wars’…?:facepalm: I didn't think you were talking about Star Wars. I'm saying that this is the real world not a movie, and the idea that the Russian people could rise up and overthrow the Russian government is utterly ****ing ludicrous.

[UserSince2005]

Nonsense, Russia is not a democracy and the people have little to no sway over the actions of the government, nor anything they can do to stop them. The idea that this could all have been averted if some plucky Russians with civilian firearms and a can-do attitude had marched up to the Kremlin doors would be funny if the situation wasn't so dire.

"some"? y'alls argument is that the "vast majority" of people are against the war.
if the "vast majority" stood up, what? 100m people?, you think putin wouldnt feel the consequences?

[UserSince2005]

You're pro Jeffery Epstein.

no but im sure youre pro hitler, freak boy.

[glib]

no but im sure youre pro hitler, freak boy.

Oh for goodness sake will you tone it down a bit

[UserSince2005]

Oh for goodness sake will you tone it down a bit

he randomly said im pro pedophile lol because he had no where else to go, and im the one whos taken it too far

that little closet ****** needs to get its head checked.

[Alf]

your pro putin clearly so go get your head checked. your either mental or evil, figure it out pleaseThis was your reply to me for calling you out for blaming all the Russian people, even the disabled ones for War Crimes.

Now you're crying because I gave you a bit back.

[arista]

Greggs warns of more price increases

[Energy prices around the world began
to rise sharply as economies started
to recover from the coronavirus pandemic,
and have surged further as Russia's
invasion of Ukraine continues.]


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/21FA/production/_123589680_sausageroll.jpg

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60659806

[UserSince2005]

This was your reply to me for calling you out for blaming all the Russian people, even the disabled ones for War Crimes.

Now you're crying because I gave you a bit back.

i aint crying, im fighting you all for whats right.
glad to see you consider russians actions as war crimes though.

[UserSince2005]

Greggs warns of more price increases

[Energy prices around the world began
to rise sharply as economies started
to recover from the coronavirus pandemic,
and have surged further as Russia's
invasion of Ukraine continues.]


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/21FA/production/_123589680_sausageroll.jpg

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60659806

maybe this will get you closet fat ******s backs up haha

[Toy Soldier]

"some"? y'alls argument is that the "vast majority" of people are against the war.

if the "vast majority" stood up, what? 100m people?, you think putin wouldnt feel the consequences?Like I said we're in the real world, not a movie. Name a time in history an entire country has jumped to arms to topple their own government. And I'm talking world powers here, not coups in small nations, and even then, that's not what a coup looks like.

You're getting angry and hayi g an entire people because they're not enacting a fantasy scenario that bears no resemblance to real world situations or politics.

[glib]

Like I said we're in the real world, not a movie. Name a time in history an entire country has jumped to arms to topple their own government. And I'm talking world powers here, not coups in small nations, and even then, that's not what a coup looks like.

You're getting angry and hayi g an entire people because they're not enacting a fantasy scenario that bears no resemblance to real world situations or politics.

France

[UserSince2005]

Like I said we're in the real world, not a movie. Name a time in history an entire country has jumped to arms to topple their own government. And I'm talking world powers here, not coups in small nations, and even then, that's not what a coup looks like.

You're getting angry and hayi g an entire people because they're not enacting a fantasy scenario that bears no resemblance to real world situations or politics.

i would argue the power imbalance in a lot of arab countries prior to the arab spring was greater than that currently in Russia.
Russia is long gone being a world power, its a nuclear power but its not a world power.

[Cherie]

Talks in Turkey
with the Ukrainian Minister & Lavrov
have ended.

The Russians will Stop attacking them
once they surrender

Well that isn’t happening any time soon

[arista]

McDonalds in Russia
has decided to still pay its staff
while they are closed.

Makes sense to hang onto good workers,
but for how long can they do this?


CNN HD Business

[Livia]

i would argue the power imbalance in a lot of arab countries prior to the arab spring was greater than that currently in Russia.
Russia is long gone being a world power, its a nuclear power but its not a world power.

Honestly, it's like Russia is a new thing to you and you know nothing about it.

[glib]

McDonalds in Russia
has decided to still pay its staff
while they are closed.

Makes sense to hang onto good workers,
but for how long can they do this?


CNN HD Business

What’s the point in that?

The entire point of these boycotts was to stop western money being poured into Russia
That’s exactly what maccies is doing here

Whilst I can’t say let them go hungry, if Putin realises his people are suffering fro m starvation , he will retreat.

[UserSince2005]

Honestly, it's like Russia is a new thing to you and you know nothing about it.

funny that ive been to russia, please confirm you havent so you can look stupid

[Livia]

funny that ive been to russia, please confirm you havent so you can look stupid

I have been to Russia. That doesn't make me - nor obviously you - an expert.

[UserSince2005]

I have been to Russia. That doesn't make me - nor obviously you - an expert.

ok well done at least apparently not everyone on here has lived their life under a rock.

[Livia]

ok well done at least apparently not everyone on here has lived their life under a rock.

You understand that you're not supposed to be discussing other members? Because believe me, you don't exactly cover yourself in a worldly-wise glow.

[UserSince2005]

You understand that you're not supposed to be discussing other members? Because believe me, you don't exactly cover yourself in a worldly-wise glow.

never claimed to be an expert of russia, nor did i claim to be worldly-wise whatever that exactly means.

I am however confident that i know the difference between what is morally right and wrong.

[arista]

What’s the point in that?

The entire point of these boycotts was to stop western money being poured into Russia
That’s exactly what maccies is doing here

Whilst I can’t say let them go hungry, if Putin realises his people are suffering fro m starvation , he will retreat.


McD in Russia must be able to see beyond this War.
It is not USA paying this,
it is the Russian Franchisers

Some Other Russian owned burger bars are really happy
that McD has hated working in Russia.



[The company has committed to paying all of its
approximately 62,000 Russian employees
during the pause in restaurant operations.
Ozan said McDonald's will also be paying leases
for its locations, as well as supply chain costs and other expenses.]


CNBC HD


https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/104257226-GettyImages-599936472.jpg?v=1570478505&w=929&h=523

A Few Weeks ago

A Large amount of young staff.,

[UserSince2005]

please can you all confirm that you believe russians dont have a moral obligation to stand up against their government?

[arista]

Please can you all confirm that you believe Russians dont have a moral obligation to stand up against their government?


Yes
they get arrested.

[Toy Soldier]

please can you all confirm that you believe russians dont have a moral obligation to stand up against their government?Do I believe that anyone has a moral obligation to sacrifice their life as a political statement?

Yes you can confirm that I don't believe that.

[Toy Soldier]

I also don't believe for one second that you'd be firing a peashooter at Westminster if the UK invaded Ireland.

[glib]

I also don't believe for one second that you'd be firing a peashooter at Westminster if the UK invaded Ireland.

UserSince2006 would he cheering it on

[UserSince2005]

Do I believe that anyone has a moral obligation to sacrifice their life as a political statement?

Yes you can confirm that I don't believe that.

I can confirm i do believe that. you can refer to me as Saint UserSince2005

[arista]

I also don't believe for one second that you'd be firing a peashooter at Westminster if the UK invaded Ireland.


We would not want Southern Ireland
it has terrible housing problems

[UserSince2005]

I also don't believe for one second that you'd be firing a peashooter at Westminster if the UK invaded Ireland.

well we all know if a dublin materity hospital was shelled by boris yours reaction would be "oh no, :sad:... whats for dinner?".

[Toy Soldier]

well we all know if a dublin materity hospital was shelled by boris yours reaction would be "oh no, :sad:... whats for dinner?".No, but it wouldn't be to attempt to take on the armed forces with my bare hands, because life isn't a movie, and I'm not a martyr.

[arista]

Lavrov
claims Ukrainian troops were using
the Hospitals they Hit.



Russia now using Fighter jets
Destroying other Hospitals


WION HD Gravitas Part 1.
SkyHD Ch 523
Free Online to View.

[arista]

Its been reported
that all that protest in Russia
get a Criminal Record
that stops them getting a Job
and No Money Credit.

So it is best not to Protest in Russia.


A Grandmother, out there, was just on Ch5HDnews.

[arista]

Zelensky Minister
offered Lavrov of Russia to keep Crimea and the 2 Pro Russian regions

Lavrov in Turkey
said NO
they want a Full Surrender
https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/AP21356421871718-1.jpg?quality=80&resize=770%2C513

[Cherie]

Zelensky Minister
offered Lavrov of Russia to keep Crimea and the 2 Pro Russian regions

Lavrov in Turkey
said NO
they want a Full Surrender
https://www.aljazeera.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/12/AP21356421871718-1.jpg?quality=80&resize=770%2C513

Asshole

[arista]

Asshole


The Problem is they have
so many more Missiles to be Fired
onto the Public in Ukraine.

This is why Russia will not stop

[UserSince2005]

if the sight of him disgusts me, he looks like the elephant man.

[arista]

if the sight of him disgusts me, he looks like the elephant man.


A 71 year old
Hard Russian (Minister of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation)
(Sergey Viktorovich Lavrov is a Russian diplomat and politician
who has served as the Foreign Minister of Russia since 2004.)


He will not change his mind
Full Surrender or they all die

[bots]

lavrov is as nasty as putin. If they don't manage to get putin, i hope the get him

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/14E8B/production/_123634658_de004dc3-3849-46fd-82fd-7fed635915de.png

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/17B13/production/_123634079_ft-11mar22-nc.png

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/1759B/production/_123634659_4d73767f-98ee-4221-8cfc-938449db06bd.png

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/5EB3/production/_123634242_mailnc.png

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/7F83/production/_123634623_expressnc.png

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/1452B/production/_123634238_timesnc.png

[arista]

The Online Paper

https://livecenterimagesnorth.azureedge.net/lc-images-2021/lcimg-1d91a283-a851-41d5-92b5-f0ec02053fe5.jpg?bypass-service-worker&

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/13EEB/production/_123634618_dailystarnc.png

[arista]

Russian Spiv's are selling Two McD Burgers and
and a Cherry Pie for £47 in Russian money.[/B]

He has it Stacked
full up in his fridge

You would have to heat it UP


Photo was on Headliners show
GBNewsHD


A paper that needs money
for you to view
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-mcdonalds-food-restaurants-closed-b2032109.html


https://static.independent.co.uk/2022/03/09/15/Screenshot%202022-03-09%20at%2015.05.19.png?quality=75&width=982&height=726&auto=webp

https://static.independent.co.uk/2022/03/09/15/Screenshot%202022-03-09%20at%2015.27.28.png?width=1200

[arista]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10597763/Russian-fills-entire-fridge-McDONALDS-cash-selling-Big-Mac-meals-250.html

[Desperate Russian fills his entire fridge with McDONALD'S
after the restaurant suspends trading over Ukraine…
as others cash in by selling Big Mac meals for £250!]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/10/09/55181385-10597763-image-a-29_1646905860996.jpg
[A photograph, shared to discussion website Reddit,
showed a desperate Russian's fridge jam-packed
with at least 50 McDonald's burgers,
leaving barely any room for other groceries]

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/10/09/55181903-10597763-image-a-33_1646906347408.jpg
[Posts on Russian classifieds website Avito showed
people were attempting to flog entire bags
of McDonald's food, while others tried to make
a profit just by selling sauces]

[GoldHeart]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2022/03/10/09/55181385-10597763-image-a-29_1646905860996.jpg
[A photograph, shared to discussion website Reddit,
showed a desperate Russian's fridge jam-packed
with at least 50 McDonald's burgers,
leaving barely any room for other groceries]

Most of those burgers will get mouldy and go off , if they're all rammed in the fridge like that .

[arista]

Most of those burgers will get mouldy and go off , if they're all rammed in the fridge like that .


Sure.
But they are selling fast.


Capitalism is big in Russia.


[One tried to sell Big Mac meal for £250 while another charged £639 for food]

[UserSince2005]

The letter z is going to be banned after all this. We will have to remove it from all words. It’s a new swastika. Well done Russia.

[arista]

A newspaper Reporter in Zaporizhzhia (just live on GBNewsHD itv)
said Aid Trucks (Food /Water /Meds) were blocked by Russian troops
so people in the south,
Mariupol are now fighting
each other for the last food.

[arista]

1502041831596568579

[bots]

obviously not a royalist. We get these comments regularly every time there is an event

[arista]

1502104548445503507

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2022/03/10/lions-rescued-kyiv-arrive-dutch-ngos-shelter-spain

Lions rescued in Kyiv arrive at Dutch NGO’s shelter in Spain

Young lions and an African wild dog rescued from a wildlife shelter in Kyiv last week arrived safely at a Stichting AAP shelter in Spain, the Dutch foundation announced on Thursday. The animals are safe and sound and seem to be doing well, the foundation said on Facebook.

"Here, we can continue to work on their recovery and provide these animals a beautiful and especially safe life," the foundation said on Facebook. "They are now in quarantine, where we can examine their condition better. After that, we expect to give them access to a beautiful outdoor habitat where they can enjoy the warm Spanish sun."

The lions and wild dog were rescued from the Wild Animal Rescue shelter near Kyiv by employees of the shelter, who risked their lives to make sure the animals were safe. They managed to sneak the animals across the border to Poland last Thursday, reportedly under fire from Russian soldiers. The animals spent a few days in Poland to recover from the journey and then continued on to the Stichting AAP shelter in Spain. The trip took about 25 hours, with regular stops to feed and water the animals.

Stichting AAP said it received many heartwarming messages from people concerned about the animals. "Thank you so much for this!" The foundation asked for donations for the lions' and wild dog's care. According to the foundation, caring for a lion costs 75 euros a day and 35 euros per day for a wild dog.

https://www.facebook.com/StichtingAAP/posts/pfbid02PGyQw5dtFKcTTkAmtt89iWus5NePM24q7S7S5VVNe7F YNRqVcsHDxGguQtf7TJzRl

https://nltimes.nl/sites/nltimes.nl/files/styles/news_article_full/public/2022-03/275598569_329130192594709_3486241252801171305_n.jp g?h=8a7fc05e&itok=K-9scOhB


:love:

[arista]

Last night on Russian Live TV
a person Criticised this War.

As a result, they are going to stop Live Debate shows.

[arista]

[Lions rescued in Kyiv arrive at Dutch NGO’s shelter in Spain]



Thats some good News
Nicky

[Zizu]

Last night on Russian Live TV
a person Criticised this War.

As a result, they are going to stop Live Debate shows.


I bet that person went missing after the show as well ...


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[MTVN]

Lots of support for the war amongst the Russian population

1501676038090379267

[Nicky91]

Lots of support for the war amongst the Russian population

1501676038090379267

most of those who voted for Putin in each election then exposed


imagine being pro-corruption, pro-dictatorship, pro-soviet-union in 2022 :spin:

[MTVN]

There is a view amongst Russians that they're only losing the worst part of their society with the sanctions i.e. that which has been corrupted by the West. Nationalism is very strong there with the idea that they are the protector of Eastern culture and that they are correcting a historic wrong. Mother Russia is more important than McDonalds

[Crimson Dynamo]

There is a view amongst Russians that they're only losing the worst part of their society with the sanctions i.e. that which has been corrupted by the West. Nationalism is very strong there with the idea that they are the protector of Eastern culture and that they are correcting a historic wrong. Mother Russia is more important than McDonalds

is that a view held by anyone under 35 tho?

[MTVN]

is that a view held by anyone under 35 tho?

Quite possibly because they don't know the hardships of the USSR and 90s Russia, their teaching of their nations history is probably quite rose tinted

[Livia]

So much for Glasnost.

[Nicky91]

yes Putin and Lavrov's propaganda to brainwash youths into supporting their regime


either you support it, or you face consequences (jail sentences in siberia, poisoning, shot)



and most of these probably live further away from ukrainian border either, so they do not know what circumstances are like there

[MTVN]

No government survives by repression alone is my main point really, even dictatorships need a certain level of either popular support or popular compliance

[Crimson Dynamo]

Lots of support for the war amongst the Russian population

1501676038090379267

call me an old cynic but if that isnt the most staged thing since Diversity won a BAFTA then I will eat Parmy's swollen wrist

[MTVN]

It's not spontaneous but it's still noteworthy I think

Lots of Russians putting the Z on their clothes, cars, media accounts as well. That Russian gymnast is probably not that big an outlier in his support for the war

[Livia]

They'll stop when they realise it really stands for Zelenskyy.

[MTVN]

They'll stop when they realise it really stands for Zelenskyy.

:joker:

[glib]

call me an old cynic but if that isnt the most staged thing since Diversity won a BAFTA then I will eat Parmy's swollen wrist

Exactly people here believe so much cr*p
They get their news off Facebook

[MTVN]

Protests/demonstrations are staged by their nature lol

[glib]

most of those who voted for Putin in each election then exposed


imagine being pro-corruption, pro-dictatorship, pro-soviet-union in 2022 :spin:

Nicky my dear friend so many more governments are corrupt than you think yet the people still vote them in

[glib]

It's not spontaneous but it's still noteworthy I think

Lots of Russians putting the Z on their clothes, cars, media accounts as well. That Russian gymnast is probably not that big an outlier in his support for the war

You really think the gymnast decided to put that Z there? You’re more narrow minded than I thought. Time you thought outside your own little pre-set boundaries I think.

[MTVN]

You really think the gymnast decided to put that Z there? You’re more narrow minded than I thought. Time you thought outside your own little pre-set boundaries I think.

No I'm sure the baddie coach held a gun to his head and the coach had a gun held to his head by Hans Gruber

A small circle of evil men at the top responsible for everything is always the smartest explanation, no one else in the country has agency

[glib]

There is a view amongst Russians that they're only losing the worst part of their society with the sanctions i.e. that which has been corrupted by the West.

Do you have a source or is this another comment by an unqualified Westerner on Twitter you’ve decided to share?

[glib]

No I'm sure the baddie coach held a gun to his head and the coach had a gun held to his head by Hans Gruber

A small circle of evil men at the top responsible for everything is always the smartest explanation, no one else in the country has agency

I can tell you know nothing about sport in Russia, please do your research.

[MTVN]

Do you have a source or is this another comment by an unqualified Westerner on Twitter you’ve decided to share?

Do some research mate, go beyond your pre-set boundaries

[glib]

Do some research mate, go beyond your pre-set boundaries

So you can’t provide a source for your claim?

I thought not!

[MTVN]

So you can’t provide a source for your claim?

I thought not!

I'll send you my bibliography in due course, I draw upon an extensive wealth of sources

[glib]

I'll send you my bibliography in due course, I draw upon an extensive wealth of sources

Do it, I’m sure we’d all love to know where you get these baseless claims from

[UserSince2005]

Weird but one of the things keep wondering about Russia destroying is the sky bridge in Kyiv.
https://images.unian.net/photos/2019_05/1558871957-4333.jpg

[arista]

Lots of support for the war amongst the Russian population

1501676038090379267


Yes Z
is their Victory word.


That could be a set up.
Most young Russians are against the Evil War
in Ukraine.

[arista]

Today, a Larger Whole Country of Ukraine attacked



President Biden now Live (All Media)
he has both sides of the cabinet
is making even more International
blocks on Russia
via the World Bank.

He also said they will send Food to Ukraine.

[arista]

Biden just said Russian Military Failed to take over Ukraine


He is so wrong, Russian
Missiles will Will Win this Evil War, in the end
Stupid Biden needs to understand that



He took one Question
False Flag - Chemical Weapons
(Biden said he will not answer security questions)

[letmein]

Biden just said Russian Military Failed to take over Ukraine


He is so wrong, Russian
Missiles will Will Win this Evil War, in the end
Stupid Biden needs to understand that



He took one Question
False Flag - Chemical Weapons
(Biden said he will not answer security questions)

They have failed to take Ukraine. He didn’t say that they couldn’t. He stated that if they use chemical weapons they would pay for it. He’s ready for them to keep going. US intelligence has been spot on.

[arista]

"They have failed to take Ukraine"


Yes, but it is early days
it is not over.


Note how I said

"In the end"

[arista]

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[arista]

1502212837493682176

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FNjk7KGWQAIM8Er?format=jpg&name=small


Good on this Lady in
[Irpin is rescuing disabled dogs from a Pet shelter.]


https://twitter.com/MFA_Ukraine/status/1502202186423574528

[arista]

It has been Reported
Biden's calls to King in Saudi Arabia
have not been answered


Biden halted the Trump Contract on buying arms
from USA.

So it is no wonder
they do not want to speak to him.

Report on WION HD
Gravitas Pt.2

SkyHD Ch523
also Free to View Online

[arista]

1502191941454286848

[Zizu]

LVIV, Ukraine, March 11 (Reuters) - An adviser to Ukraine's president said on Friday Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko was meeting Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow as Russian jets carried out what Ukraine said was a false-flag attack on Belarusian villages.

Moscow did not immediately comment on a statement by Ukraine’s border service that several Belarusian border villages had been bombed by Russian warplanes to create a reason for Belarus to join Russia’s war against Ukraine.


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[glib]

I'll send you my bibliography in due course, I draw upon an extensive wealth of sources

We’re waiting

[glib]

LVIV, Ukraine, March 11 (Reuters) - An adviser to Ukraine's president said on Friday Belarusian leader Alexander Lukashenko was meeting Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow as Russian jets carried out what Ukraine said was a false-flag attack on Belarusian villages.

Moscow did not immediately comment on a statement by Ukraine’s border service that several Belarusian border villages had been bombed by Russian warplanes to create a reason for Belarus to join Russia’s war against Ukraine.


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What a load of crap.
‘an adviser to Zelensky’
Not named I supposed?

[arista]

[Ukraine war: Russia to label Meta
an 'extremist organisation'
for allowing posts calling for Putin's death
Meta has reportedly sent emails to
moderators that explain the company
is making "allowances for forms of
political expression that would
normally violate our rules".]

https://news.sky.com/story/ukraine-war-russia-to-label-meta-an-extremist-organisation-for-allowing-posts-calling-for-putins-death-12563280