Russian Invasion of the Ukraine - The Official WW3 Thread

[arista]

A Politician was shot dead
by a deliveryman.


A video on the news showed him.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjw6ep37469o

[arista]

Ukraine Government Building
hit by a deadly Russian Missile


Showing their defence is not good enough, sadly

[emseateng2014]

4 years and this war is still going on like a marry go around and the energizer bunny

[Sticks]

If that failed comedian had surrendered to his true master, Putin, then we would not have these deaths.

[arista]

Sky News Text :
[Sunday Mirror travelled with
The Foreign Secretary Yvette Cooper
as she visited Kyiv for her first overseas trip
- in a gesture of solidarity with Ukraine
as it faces intensified Russian aggression.]


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[arista]

BBC News Text:
[The King's private talks with Donald Trump
were "very important" in convincing the US president
that Ukraine could win the war against Russia,
according to The Daily Telegraph.]

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[arista]

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[emseateng2014]

if he gave up then i think ukraine would just be part of russia again just like the ussr soviet union days from the 1910s to 1980s then puttin would start invading all of the old soviet independent countrys and make them squeel

Just think

If Zelensky had surrendered at the beginning and allowed his true boss, Putin to come to Kiev, (To use it's proper Russian name!!!), and to put in a proper governor of that Russian province of Ukraine and then gone to his home in Florida, paid for by embezzled funds , these deaths would not be happening.

It is the ego of this third rate failed comedian which is causing this

[Sticks]

News Flash, Ukraine is part of Mother Russia

To claim it otherwise is like you claiming your street is an independent country, or even a London Borough, like Pimleco
634VTm9y1Eo

[Nicky91]

i mean Ukraine was just an easy target for Russia to invade, not a member of the EU, not a member of NATO, and now becoming a member for Ukraine is even more difficult otherwise we would have WW3 on our hands if we'd interfere like that



also Putin won't attack NATO i think, i know him long enough that he is a smart strategist, attacking a NATO country would be like suicide for his Russia


also i can see him backing down out of Ukraine once he realizes it is a lost cause and he isn't winning any more territory, considering Russia has been doing great recently in terms of their Asian alliances, Intervision comeback contest has been good propaganda for them in Asia, even countries like Brazil taking part there, and even some african countries taking part

[arista]

Trumps Wife just Live on TV news


She was talking about Russia
who must return,
Ukrainian Children

[Livia]

We need a government approved march every Saturday to campaign against Russia. Police may patrol on shirtsleeves.

[arista]

Sky News Text:
[Donald Trump is set to arm
Ukraine with long-range Tomahawk
missiles as he turns his attention
to ending the war with Russia
after being praised for bringing
peace to the Middle East
during a visit to Israel
on Monday,
according to The Telegraph.]


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[emseateng2014]

imagine if wwe hall of famer donnie j trump ends the russia vs ukraine feud

[arista]

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[Sticks]

Quite right to

Ukrainian Nazis started this was

Lets not forget, Ukraine sided with the Nazis in WW2 and many war criminals were Ukrainian.

[arista]

Quite right to

Ukrainian Nazis started this was

Lets not forget, Ukraine sided with the Nazis in WW2 and many war criminals were Ukrainian.


This Current Leader of Ukraine
has nothing to do with the terrible WW2 past.

Do not dig up ancient trouble
that is not relevant

[OnTheRight]

Quite right to

Ukrainian Nazis started this was

Lets not forget, Ukraine sided with the Nazis in WW2 and many war criminals were Ukrainian.

Exactly. Smash Ukraine.

[OnTheRight]

This Current Leader of Ukraine
has nothing to do with the terrible WW2 past.

Do not dig up ancient trouble
that is not relevant

The current UK Government had fk all to do with slaves but people still want OUR money.

Stop digging.

[arista]

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[arista]

Zelensky
Now Live in Central London


With EU Rutte

and PM Starmer

and Danish Prime Minister

and the Dutch PM

[arista]

Typical Beth
of SkyNewsHD had to ask about a Gut Punch
Welsh Election...............

After her question on Ukraine/Russia War

[arista]

Nicky



Your PM just stated he will Financially support Ukraine

[Nicky91]

idk why we need to meddle our business into this, since it is not our concern to begin with


this strategic operation is more against Ukraine's anti-russia propaganda, denial of russian culture, russian language by the ukrainian government


and this is something what is a concern for all former USSR nations, were we once a part of that, i think not



i am more annoyed with the news media's fearmongering to make people buy expensive emergency packages :idc: a vile tactic at making people poorer :rolleyes:

[arista]

[A large Russian drone and missile barrage
has pummelled a western Ukrainian city, killing 20 people,
including two children, authorities said,
As Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy arrived
in Türkiye in search of diplomatic support for his
fight against Russia's invasion.]

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Nicky91]

yes why wouldn't you just end the war now, even if that means you have to give some territory to Russia?

there have been many losses on both sides now anyway, and tbh those Donetsk, Lugansk regional governments never have been pro-Kyiv government either, how are still pro-russian language usage, pro-russian culture


and i doubt Putin would want a WW3, if he can't even fully control Ukraine, i doubt he wants to fight all of the EU, all of NATO, then russia are surely doomed

[arista]

So far, Ukraine says no

[Nicky91]

So far, Ukraine says no

Kyiv says no more like :idc:


don't bother to ask the regional governments of Donetsk, Lugansk



Putin is kinda right about fascism existing within Ukraine's national government

[arista]

Nicky it is over 20%
of Ukraine they must now give up to Russia.

The Public of Ukraine say NO

[arista]

[Zelensky says Ukraine risks losing US as key partner
over White House plan to end Russia's war]


Tell Trump to Sod Off

[Nicky91]

Nicky it is over 20%
of Ukraine they must now give up to Russia.

The Public of Ukraine say NO

yes so?

just end this war now, both sides suffered many losses, Ukraine also killed quite many russian civilians


Trump's 28 step plan is a good plan

[Livia]

Imagine if it had been suggested in 1944 that Netherlands give up 20% of its territory to Germany.

[arista]

yes so?

just end this war now, both sides suffered many losses, Ukraine also killed quite many russian civilians


Trump's 28 step plan is a good plan


The New Trump Deadline is next Thursday, 27/11/25

[arista]

Imagine if it had been suggested in 1944 that Netherlands give up 20% of its territory to Germany.


Great point Livia


Back then, they would say No

[Sticks]

Ukraine is just another Russian province.

Russia should also demand that Zelensky be handed over to be tried for high treason.

It seems now. that Trump believes that Putin has been in the right all along and has sided with his old pal.

[MTVN]

Imagine if it had been suggested in 1944 that Netherlands give up 20% of its territory to Germany.

Unfortunately I don't think there's any prospect of Russia being defeated in a years time though. There is a prospect of Ukraine losing more territory

[arista]

Ukraine is just another Russian province.

Russia should also demand that Zelensky be handed over to be tried for high treason.

It seems now. that Trump believes that Putin has been in the right all along and has sided with his old pal.


Sticks you are so Wrong

Ukraine was part of Russia : NO MORE

[joeysteele]

This seems like it could be called many things but a deal FOR Ukraine it certainly is not.
It's more like a partial surrender to Putin and Russia.

Trump is pathetic.

[Livia]

Unfortunately I don't think there's any prospect of Russia being defeated in a years time though. There is a prospect of Ukraine losing more territory

Yeah, it was really a dig at Red Nicky.

[bots]

pride has to be swallowed to end a war and sometimes the path to that place defies normal logic.

There is an underlying problem though, if putin comes out of the war with more land, it will just embolden the russian leadership to take further action. We know what Putin's goal is. He hasn't changed from that position since he started the war. We can defeat Russia by making it bankrupt, thats the only way the west is going to win this

[MTVN]

Yeah, it was really a dig at Red Nicky.

Ahhh, I get it!

[emseateng2014]

how and when will the war between the 2 former ussr countries end

only time will tell

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Sticks]

Sticks you are so Wrong

Ukraine was part of Russia : NO MORE

It still is

Their declaration of independence and others saying they are independent is meaningless

I declare you Arista are king of Jupiter

I declare I am king of Saturn

Would everyone here on this board please acknowledge our kingships, which are just as valid as anyone saying that Ukraine is independent rather than just being a province of Mother Russia.

[Nicky91]

pride has to be swallowed to end a war and sometimes the path to that place defies normal logic.

There is an underlying problem though, if putin comes out of the war with more land, it will just embolden the russian leadership to take further action. We know what Putin's goal is. He hasn't changed from that position since he started the war. We can defeat Russia by making it bankrupt, thats the only way the west is going to win this

doubt majority of the russian people care about gaining land though, way too many russian civilians lost their lives already, and i very much doubt Putin will be president of russia for much longer, he also isn't getting younger, and who knows what Putin's own family must be thinking about all this, i don't think his daughters would want to see their dad ending up assassinated at some point (which could happen tbh)

[arista]

"It still is"

No, Sticks
they are not part of Evil Russia anymore

[arista]

Yesterday
A reporter told President Trump
that Zelensky does not like the deal.

Trump said well, I guess they can keep on fighting?

(Of course, without USA weapon funding)

[Nicky91]

QPCsxDwvbow

and elsewhere more trouble for Russia, coming from their once allies Belarus, whom also btw freed 31 more Ukrainian prisoners, they were granted pardon by president Lukashenko


Lukashenko is doing this, in hopes sanctions from the west will be lifted against his Belarus, but tbh i don't think this either is going down well for Putin and his few remaining loyalists in the government in Moscow

[Nicky91]

good on Luka anyway for seeing the light, better late than never, although this is more an ego move than anything else, basically a ''we don't owe russia anything, time we start thinking about ourselves'' sort of backstabber move

[arista]

Now, Trump is telling PM Starmer,
He must agree with his new deal with Russia-Ukraine

Or President Trump will halt intelligence sharing

[Gusto Brunt]

Now, Trump is telling PM Starmer,
He must agree with his new deal with Russia-Ukraine

Or President Trump will halt intelligence sharing

It's a bad 'deal' though isn't it. More like a surrender.

I cannot believe how bad it is. Even I think it's terrible and should not be accepted and I hate war!

[bots]

i think europe needs to get it's act together and go it alone without the usa. We cannot rely on the usa going forward, so it's time to step up and take care of ourselves.

[Sticks]

But Trump was saved by Almighty God from the Assassin's bullet

He is the second coming

His faithful service to The Lord in appointing conservatives to the Supreme Court, struck down the Ungodly Roe Vs Wade to save countless unborn children from being murdered

The first three letters of Truth and Trustworthy are in his name

Trump is the Truth and the Truth is Trump

SO DO WHAT HE SAYS OR ELSE!!!

[Nicky91]

It's a bad 'deal' though isn't it. More like a surrender.

I cannot believe how bad it is. Even I think it's terrible and should not be accepted and I hate war!

how is it like surrender?


as if Russia are the winning side here, i mean Lavrov is no longer on Putin's side, even Belarus are lowkey abandoning the ship



and as if Ukraine are innocents in this conflict, they too murdered russian civilians, many hundreds of them 600+

[Gusto Brunt]

how is it like surrender?


as if Russia are the winning side here, i mean Lavrov is no longer on Putin's side, even Belarus are lowkey abandoning the ship



and as if Ukraine are innocents in this conflict, they too murdered russian civilians, many hundreds of them 600+

Ukraine is being told to give away land not yet seized by Russia and to give up most of their weapons and never join NATA. That's not a good 'deal' to me. What about the hundreds of thousands of Ukrianians who've died in battle. For nothing if they accept the 'deal' which is all for Russia.

[Sticks]

Blame that third rate failed comedian who won't wear suit and tie to the Whitehouse

He should have surrendered to the true ruler of Ukraine, Vladimir Putin, as Ukraine is just a Russian province. It's claim to independence is no more valid than Arista's kingship of Jupiter, which I have proclaimed. Russia or Putin did not grant them independence, which only he had the right to do, not any third party busybody.

If Zelensky had taken up the offer of the US to go into exile and allowed the Ukranians (Sorry Russians) to surrender a lot of these deaths could have been avoided.

Zelensky is a war criminal, because his oversized ego got in the way of peace.

All Putin was doing with his military action was finishing, "unfinished" business of World War 2 and getting rid of the Nazis. Remember how Canada went to honour a Ukrainian soldier, only to find he was a Nazi concentration camp guard.

[Nicky91]

Ukraine is being told to give away land not yet seized by Russia and to give up most of their weapons and never join NATA. That's not a good 'deal' to me. What about the hundreds of thousands of Ukrianians who've died in battle. For nothing if they accept the 'deal' which is all for Russia.

oh well, i can see Trump also working towards better USA-Russia relations, Trump is so great at people's skills with other strong leaders like himself, we saw that already with Kim Jong-Un and Benjamin Netanyahu

[arista]

i think europe needs to get it's act together and go it alone without the usa. We cannot rely on the usa going forward, so it's time to step up and take care of ourselves.


Yes, that could start this next week
after Trump's Thursday Deadline.

[Sticks]

Trump is the leader of the free world and a Messiah for the 21st century

The first three letters of Truth and Trustworthy are in his name

Trump is the Truth and the Truth is Trump

SO DO WHAT HE SAYS OR ELSE!!!

[Nicky91]

who cares if it seems like 'surrender'


peace is always good for both sides honestly as it prevents further bloodshed




Trump just sympathizes for Putin's Russia, how he recognizes that whole anti-russia witch hunt from the west, from the own witch hunts from the left against himself

[bots]

who cares if it seems like 'surrender'


peace is always good for both sides honestly as it prevents further bloodshed




Trump just sympathizes for Putin's Russia, how he recognizes that whole anti-russia witch hunt from the west, from the own witch hunts from the left against himself

it wont be peace though, its just a land grab by russia

[arista]

it wont be peace though, its just a land grab by russia


You are so right

[Nicky91]

it wont be peace though, its just a land grab by russia

a small section of land though, and Ukraine will no longer have to do anything since USA is sending troops to guard that border then another part of the peace deal

its either that, or possibly millions more to die if this conflict goes on any longer?


choose between the lesser of two worse options

[Nicky91]

irony how Putin is more agreeable to this peace deal than Zelensky


when some people thought of Putin as someone who doesn't want peace




and as if Russia comes out of this conflict as the winners, because that isn't the case, once this conflict is over, there'll be quite an internal mess, especially from civilians in villages close to the ukrainian border, who lost relatives, and relatives of people who got killed in those villages by ukrainian drone attacks, or those who lost people who had to go to the frontline to fight for russia in ukraine

[arista]

Trumps New Plan
screws Ukraine.

PM Starmer has until Thursday
to say if he agree's with this dead deal


It gives President Trump,
a chance to save Massive Cash on saving Ukraine

[Livia]

it wont be peace though, its just a land grab by russia
Give it 24 hours, Nicky will agree with you. And then this time next week, he'll be back on Russia's side.

[arista]

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[arista]

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