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[seanraff07]

I think United leading this division with their weakest team in some time is some indication of where the Premiership is at the moment. Awful standard.

Yep, all the teams just seem to be taking points off eachother, the league's so tight which makes it better IMO. If a team like Man.City or Arsenal could just put a string of good results together i think they'd start to run away with the title, hasn't happened yet though.

[alc09]

Better to watch, yes, but the standard is shocking.

[Novo]

Wolves 1-0 Chelsea
Everton 1-0 Tottenham

Latest

[Novo]

Newcastle 1-0 West ham

[bbfan1991]

Blackburn 2 Liverpool 0:shocked:, this will probably be the last straw for Liverpool's owners and by tomorrow Hodgson could be on the lookout for a new job.

Wolverhampton Wanderers 1 Chelsea 0- Considering Wolves fixtures after this (mostly against teams in the top 6) they've certainly got the potential to cause upsets and Chelsea need to buck up their ideas quick.

[bbfan1991]

Andy Gray talks a lot of crap (Nate will back me up on this one:D), sometimes I actually look forward to a game ending just to avoid his analysis:bored:.

Come on the Villains, climb up that table!:).

[bbfan1991]

Wolves beat Chelsea:shocked:, now they're aiming to beat the other teams in the top of the league.

[Shaun]

I think it's safe to say United have the league in the bag.

[bbfan1991]

I think it's safe to say United have the league in the bag.

I wouldn't be too sure:nono:, we'll definetly lose at some point and some are getting carried away with United being unbeaten:rolleyes:, we've played crap and will hopefully improve but there's more twists to come.

[Jayson]

I think City should ditch Dzeko and sign some more defenders, if they're just going to play like that.

Chelsea and Liverpool should be ashamed after those results, too.

[Novo]

Those two wins against Chelsea and Liverpool could Keep Wolves up they were expecting to get nothing from both games but took maximum points

[bbfan1991]

Aston Villa in bottom 3 now:shocked::(.

[Rob]

Spurs great run now over after tonight, not a happy spurs supporter tonight!!

[Novo]

Villa need to start finding some form from somewhere.. they are lacking a goalscorer really.. time to go shopping this month for them

[bbfan1991]

Spurs great run now over after tonight, not a happy spurs supporter tonight!!

I think you guys have a really good chance of beating United at the Lane tbh:spin:.

[bbfan1991]

Villa need to start finding some form from somewhere.. they are lacking a goalscorer really.. time to go shopping this month for them

They need 2 strikers at this rate LOL:).

[Locke.]

Goodbye Roy

[bbfan1991]

Goodbye Roy

TAXI!!!:D.

Now Dalglish has a tough task of sorting that mess out, then he'll be replaced with Thompson then Fowler or even John Barnes at this rate;).

[Locke.]

We have a decent enough squad for the top 7, and we have money to buy players in this transfer window. If we get a replacement in quick then we can turn this around.

[Novo]

There isn't many decent managers available or any that would even want the liverpool Job in the current situation

[bbfan1991]

We have a decent enough squad for the top 7, and we have money to buy players in this transfer window. If we get a replacement in quick then we can turn this around.

What world class players would want to go to Liverpool with the current situation?, no Champions League football possibly again for another season. If I was a Liverpool fan right now I wouldn't bother about 7th place even if it's Europe and would hope for managers/owners to try and rebuild the squad in terms of the league because for the first time in ages you guys were so close to winning the title one year than the year after it went tits up in the wrong direction.

[Locke.]

What world class players would want to go to Liverpool with the current situation?, no Champions League football possibly again for another season. If I was a Liverpool fan right now I wouldn't bother about 7th place even if it's Europe and would hope for managers/owners to try and rebuild the squad in terms of the league because for the first time in ages you guys were so close to winning the title one year than the year after it went tits up in the wrong direction.

Alls that the player needs to do is look at our star players. Reina, Gerrard, Torres.. 3 of the best players in the world. Obviously when they see are position in the league it doesn't look good, but we are only 5 points off 7th place with 2 games in hand. And we're still in the Europa aswell.

Just need to get a decent manager in to make the players play.

[bbfan1991]

Alls that the player needs to do is look at our star players. Reina, Gerrard, Torres.. 3 of the best players in the world. Obviously when they see are position in the league it doesn't look good, but we are only 5 points off 7th place with 2 games in hand. And we're still in the Europa aswell.

Just need to get a decent manager in to make the players play.

There's only so much the star players can do to motivate the team, they're all meant to be in it together. Look at the team spirit that teams like United, Arsenal and Chelsea have. If all the Liverpool team isn't motivated then there is obviously big problems.

It would be nice for Liverpool fans if you won the Europa League but in a way the longer you stay in could be a distraction IMO.

[30stone]

We should really have made city suffer.. hit the post like 3 - 4 times..

They never had a clear chance i dont think..

We completely dominated, would have loved to have beaten city.. again.. as we were much better. and for once alan hansen who usually writes us off, says we are more of a title threat than city.

[30stone]

Nasri is set to see his pay increased to £75,000-per-week, which would be just reward for the Frenchman after his 13 goals this season have seen Arsenal continue to fight for glory on several fronts.


The Arsenal midfielder has been an inspiration for the Gunners this season, and really came to the fore during the absence of injured skipper Cesc Fabregas.

And Nasri's father believes committing his long-term future to Arsenal is the best thing his son can do.

“He is only 23 years old and still has much room for improvement,” said Hamid Nasri. “I am convinced that he can go even higher. I think that yes, this will be with Arsenal.

“It is a club that is close to his heart, that knew how to bring him to the level where he is. I think that Arsenal remains his priority.”

Good times.

[30stone]

Nasri is set to see his pay increased to £75,000-per-week, which would be just reward for the Frenchman after his 13 goals this season have seen Arsenal continue to fight for glory on several fronts.


The Arsenal midfielder has been an inspiration for the Gunners this season, and really came to the fore during the absence of injured skipper Cesc Fabregas.

And Nasri's father believes committing his long-term future to Arsenal is the best thing his son can do.

“He is only 23 years old and still has much room for improvement,” said Hamid Nasri. “I am convinced that he can go even higher. I think that yes, this will be with Arsenal.

“It is a club that is close to his heart, that knew how to bring him to the level where he is. I think that Arsenal remains his priority.”

Good times.

[30stone]

Arsenal skipper Cesc Fabregas has hailed defender Johan Djourou after the 23-year-old made a successful comeback to competitive football following his fitness woes last term.

The Switzerland international was injuried before the start of last season, and has made seven starts and two substitute appearances in the league this term in the absence of Thomas Vermaelen.

"I’ve talked about Johan before, but I really admire how he’s handled his comeback," Fabregas said in the club's official matchday programme, before the recent game against Manchester City.

"I don’t know how I would react to a season without playing but he was always strong, smiling and working hard. The boss has treated him really well, with caution, and he’s now playing fantastically for us.

"Hopefully he can keep it up because I think that, with the way we play, we need a centre-back like him – strong, good on the ball, quick, making his presence felt on the opposition striker."

[30stone]

Thomas Vermaelen emerged unscathed from his first day back in training and Arsenal are increasingly hopeful he can return at the end of January, Goal.com UK can reveal.

The 25-year-old defender has been out since August with an Achilles injury picked up on international duty and Arsene Wenger has aired the possibility of dipping in to the transfer market for a new centre-half if Vermaelen's comeback is delayed once again.

But Goal.com UK understands that Vermaelen came through well in his first full training session on Wednesday and the medical staff are confident that he can finally return to the first team later this month.

[Locke.]

http://www.imagebam.com/image/f4f579113912348

He was doing this to our fans for a good 5 minutes apparently trying to wind us up.. had to be dragged away by Steve Keane :bored:

[Mark]

Roy Keane is gone. :)

[30stone]

Hes a dick lol, always hated him.. Diouf i mean.

Funny keanes gone too lol

[bbfan1991]

Looks like David Beckham is off to Spurs on loan LOL:D.

I won't hear a bad word against Keane;), although it was obvious he would get the sack at some point lmao.

[Chels]

Quite looking forward to Stoke tomorrow even though it's a nothing game, DJ'll probably chuck the kids out and players like Chris Burke who need game time after just coming back from injury :) the league is our focus this season! Obviously I want city to win but I'm not bothered if we lose as long as we give it a good go and it's not a battering which could damage team morale, as things finally seem to be getting back on track for us now. :D I'll go for 2-1 Stoke.

[Mark]

We have Crystal Palace in a snoozefest of an FA Cup tie.

Think we are going to play some academy kids and let them have a game.

[Mystic Mock]

Bowyer, who has also played for Charlton, Leeds, West Ham and Newcastle during his career, has received more bookings than any other player since the Premier League began in 1992, with 98 bookings to his name.

ok ive got it,the referees decide who gets booked by reputation then.

[seanraff07]

Hibs have got Ayr United in the Scottish Cup tomorrow, should be an absolute cracker.. NOT!

Were in the worst form i've ever saw us in during my 16 years and i seriously fancy Ayr pulling of a Cup 'shock' tomorrow, having to go myself cause my mates are past caring at the moment.:sleep:

[alc09]

Quite looking forward to Stoke tomorrow even though it's a nothing game, DJ'll probably chuck the kids out and players like Chris Burke who need game time after just coming back from injury :) the league is our focus this season! Obviously I want city to win but I'm not bothered if we lose as long as we give it a good go and it's not a battering which could damage team morale, as things finally seem to be getting back on track for us now. :D I'll go for 2-1 Stoke.
So much for walking the Championship?

[King Gizzard]

Kyle Walker..Wayne Bridge..Christopher Samba..Jean Makoun...enough to stay in the Premier League? We'll see

[30stone]

ok ive got it,the referees decide who gets booked by reputation then.

Nothing to do with refs just pointing out that fact hes a dirty player and was a complete wanker in the game.. no denying its fact..

[Mystic Mock]

if birmingham keep playing like they did against blackpool then i think i will be jumping up and down as we survive the season,but if we dont then we will probably finish 18th.

[30stone]

Birmingham will stay up definately they have a good team, so hopefully they do anyway.

[30stone]

Birmingham will stay up definately they have a good team, so hopefully they do anyway.

[Mystic Mock]

Birmingham will stay up definately they have a good team, so hopefully they do anyway.

thanks.:)

[30stone]

Lol birmingham are one of my top 5 believe it or not lol..

Arsenal
Fulham
Bolton
Everton
Birmingham

In that order.

[Locke.]

http://sportige.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/kenny-dalglish.jpg

[30stone]

Arsenal Target Lille's Eden Hazard For Summer Signing
The player said this week that, with clubs from all over Europe courting him, he dreams of moving to the Emirates. "Let us try to make his dream come true," Wenger said when told of the player's ambition.




John Terry’s A Pusher: The Sun go for the Chelsea captain this Saturday claiming he injured at steward at Wolves. “John Terry was at the centre of a row last night amid allegations he pushed a football ground steward, causing whiplash to his neck. Patrick Steadman, 39, claims the Chelsea ace, known as JT, shoved him in the chest near the end of the Blues’ 1-0 defeat at Wolves on Wednesday. The burly steward, standing at the edge of the pitch, says he was retrieving the ball so Wanderers goalie Wayne Hennessey could take a goal kick.”

RIght did anyone see this??

Ridiculous he hardly touched him man just trying to get in the news and make some money.. whiplash is hard to check for too..

[Locke.]

Fabregas on the bench.. Thinking about putting a bet on but not going to if you only put the kids out

[30stone]

Wenger wins manager of the decade!

Forget the heroics of José Mourinho and Sir Alex Ferguson, or the genius of Carlo Ancelotti, Arsène Wenger has been the world’s best manager over the past decade – and it’s official.
The Arsenal boss topped a table complied by the ‘International Football Federation of History & Statistics’ (IFFHS) – an organisation recognised by FIFA.
The 61-year-old, whose team have not won any silverware in six years, earned 156 points while Ferguson was second (148) and Real Madrid’s Mourinho followed in third (135).

[Locke.]

53 Szczesny
18 Squillaci
20 Djourou
27 Eboue
28 Gibbs
07 Rosicky
15 Denilson
17 A Song
23 Arshavin
29 Chamakh
52 Bendtner


That will do.. Will get something on Arshavin + Chamakh to score

[30stone]

53 Szczesny
18 Squillaci
20 Djourou
27 Eboue
28 Gibbs
07 Rosicky
15 Denilson
17 A Song
23 Arshavin
29 Chamakh
52 Bendtner


That will do.. Will get something on Arshavin + Chamakh to score

Theres good odds on 2.5 goals + with an Arsenal winning.
Or winning at half time.

[30stone]

Alex song barely misses a game lol..

[Locke.]

Just waiting til the second half and betting on next scorer.. better odds on the Bolton-York game later

[Locke.]

Rate Becchio highly, won't be surprised to see him score.

Hoping to see Leeds back in the Premiership next year, looks like it might happen aswell

[Locke.]

Glen Johnson having a go at Paul Merson on Twitter because Merson pretty much called him a load of ****e on Sky Sports News before..

"Comments from alcoholic drug abusers are not really gonna upset me and who is Paul Merson to jugde players, he was average at the best of times."

"He was average at the best of times, the only reason he's on that show is coz he gambled all his money away. The clown!"

[30stone]

Arsenal need to score, they started ripping leeds toward the end couldnt keep up at all..

Denilson has been awful - Id replace him with Nasri
And Rosicky has now a yellow card id replace him with Fabregas


----------Chesny-----------

Eboue-Squllaci-Djourou-Gibbs

----------Song--------------

--Nasri--Fabregas--Arshavin--

----Bendtner-Chamakh----


Thats how id have the team..

Maybe bring walcott on for bendtner or Arshavin..

[30stone]

Think i predicted 3 - 1

I reckon 2 - 0 now.

[30stone]

Id definately be bringing on a Pacey player or a creative player..


Nasri Fabregas Walcott all coming on at once would worry leeds.

[30stone]

Penalty leeds **** sake lol!


Denilson shouldnt be on the pitch hes been useless!!!

[Locke.]

Snodgrass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Always thought he was too good not to be in the Premiership

[30stone]

Chesny done well, almost saved that..


Come on Wenger bring on the big boys need someone who can rip em now..

should be like 3 - 1 already if we could finish lol..

[30stone]

Come on Fabregas do some magic!

[30stone]

Better not take song off!

[30stone]

Take Denilson off omg whats going on??!?!?!

Songs been good. Densilon has been dry.

[Locke.]

Song.. aka Xavier jnr

http://www.resim.cc/albums/userpics/10001/normal_Abel-Xavier-Liverpool-FC-resimleri.jpg

[30stone]

How the hell did chamakh miss that??

lol..

lol..

[30stone]

Ahh defender got it..



We need a goal now!

[Locke.]

I'm fancying Leeds for another goal here

[30stone]

Great Save.

Walcott coming on

[30stone]

Already fouling fabregas lol!

fouled fabregas in like 3 mins..

[30stone]

Arsenals luck.. typical :(

[30stone]

Arsnelas luck !!!!! YES


Please score please!

[30stone]

Arsneals luck again :(... no penalty.

[Locke.]

LOL!!! Ohhh how pissed off I'd be if I was an Arsenal fan now

[30stone]

That was a blatent pen..


Phil dowd always useless for us..

[30stone]

YESS!!!

Fabregas!!!!

[30stone]

Come on 2 more now Arsenal!

[30stone]

Arsenal dominated should be winning.

[30stone]

LOL!

Bendtner.. he wants to be to be first choice, then ****ing finish it!

[30stone]

Shemichal (sp)

Should be man of the match lol..

[30stone]

Side netting omg!!!!

[30stone]

Well lets bring a full squad no kids and beat them away..

[30stone]

Arsenal relish playing more games :)

[Locke.]

Oh **** off Sunderland

[30stone]

PAddy power offered me buy one get one free if i bet on newcastle correct score..

And i get a free bet at same stake on the united game..

YEt they wont let me have it ??

Can anyone help? lol.

[30stone]

PAddy power offered me buy one get one free if i bet on newcastle correct score..

And i get a free bet at same stake on the united game..

YEt they wont let me have it ??

Can anyone help? lol.

[MTVN]

Stevenage 2-0 up! :shocked:

[bbfan1991]

Relieved Arsenal got that penalty, if only United had that luck last year:D.

Some shocks but this is the magic of the FA Cup:), looking forward to watching the highlights.

Did some Stevenage fan punch one of their players or something?.

[seanraff07]

Relieved Arsenal got that penalty, if only United had that luck last year:D.

Some shocks but this is the magic of the FA Cup:), looking forward to watching the highlights.

Did some Stevenage fan punch one of their players or something?.

I think he might have just jumped on him and basically floored him.:joker:

What time are the FA Cup highlights on at and are they on ITV?

I'm a Hibs fan but we played out a dire 0-0 draw at home to a division 2 team and the rest of the games in Scotland were **** so i'd much rather watch the FA Cup highlights.

[Locke.]

Torres interview:


"More than ever, we need to stick together," he told The People. "We must live in the present, from match to match.

"We need to add more points, win matches and improve our standing in the table.

"That is our challenge and I demand the total help of our supporters in doing that.

"My head is in Liverpool and on helping save our season. I am professional and I always fulfil my deals.

"I haven't considered leaving, although in football that depends on the club.

"Liverpool had a lot of success under Rafa Benitez and that is difficult for anyone to follow.

"Even if the ball hasn't always dropped our way this season, we have missed out in a lot of matches."

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11667_6646908,00.html

Sounds like he is ready to play again.. just in time for Utd and Vidic :dance:

[Chels]

So much for walking the Championship?

Never said we would? I said we'll be up there (like we are atm in 2nd) and every team has a cock-up in form and it looks like we're getting back on track now.

Fair play to us yesterday, wasn't even our first team out there apart from the defence and we gave it a right go against Stoke who actually had their first team out! We were the better side first half by miles.. they got back into it but we defended incredibly and no doubt was Super Mark Hudson man of the match :D reckon we'll turn them over at home as we haven't been knocked out of the cup in Cardiff since 2004. And Stoke supporters the loudest in the country?! My arse.... BLUE ARMY!

[Chels]

Fckin hell blatent dive Berbatov..

1-0 Giggs pen

[James]

Gerrard Red. No complaints there. It's spoiled the game a little at the moment though.

[Locke.]

Dirty horrible diving ****.

[bbfan1991]

Delighted United won:devil::D, looking at the penalty it was harsh on Liverpool but i'm not complaining. I'm sure if that sort of incident happened at Anfield and it went in Liverpool fans favour they wouldn't be bothered:p.

Liverpool can blame the ref plus Gerrard got sent off, bonus for the away team is that they played way better under Dalglish then they ever did under Hodgson.

[Locke.]

I really ****ing hate that stupid **** Berbatov

[bbfan1991]

I really ****ing hate that stupid **** Berbatov

Commiserations, at least you guys can concentrate on trying to get back up that league table;).

[Locke.]

http://bigfourza.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/howard_webb.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs446.snc3/25610_103989972967533_103936619639535_91712_159158 1_n.jpg

[bbfan1991]

LOL where did you get that from Locke?:laugh2:.

If only andyman was back, would liked to have seen what he thought lmao:D.

[Locke.]

It's on some facebook group. "Howard Webb - Man Utd's best signing" think it's called.

Kenny :worship: What a great interview that was

[bbfan1991]

It's on some facebook group. "Howard Webb - Man Utd's best signing" think it's called.

Kenny :worship: What a great interview that was

I know you're peed off with the result but i'm still shocked even now we manage to have a good debate as most United or Liverpool fans constantly snipe at each other or having digs:joker:.

[Chels]

Crap aint the word for that draw

[bbfan1991]

Crap aint the word for that draw

I hope Wolves win:blush:.

I think you guys need another striker though, any transfer gossip?.

[Locke.]

I know you're peed off with the result but i'm still shocked even now we manage to have a good debate as most United or Liverpool fans constantly snipe at each other or having digs:joker:.

Yeah, I hate Man Utd as a team but don't really mind the fans unless they say something first.

[Chels]

I hope Wolves win:blush:.

I think you guys need another striker though, any transfer gossip?.

Yeah me too, then if we beat Stoke it'll be a half decent tie.

We signed Jon Parkin the other day, think he'll be a good impact player.

[Locke.]

Nice to see Chelsea getting a decent result

[alc09]

Never said we would?

The arrogance was beyond belief - you were certain that you had it in the bag.


We signed Jon Parkin the other day, think he'll be a good impact player.
Jones has lost the plot, Jon 'donkey' Parkin. :joker:

[bbfan1991]

Yeah, I hate Man Utd as a team but don't really mind the fans unless they say something first.

I don't like you (joke):D.

Seems like Liverpool are getting their team spirit back, however there are still lots of average players in the team bar a few and KD needs to start the clear out and aim potential targets:).

[bbfan1991]

Yeah me too, then if we beat Stoke it'll be a half decent tie.

We signed Jon Parkin the other day, think he'll be a good impact player.

Oh yeah I did see that but I still think enough fire power back up is important and will increase competition for places.

Team is sliding down the league recently though:(.

Alc who is it you support again, Peterborough or Arsenal?.

[alc09]

With the Dalglish appointment I can't see Liverpool making any real improvement - their problems run deeper than changing the manager. Benitiez left them with a piss poor squad.

Knee jerk reaction from a club in trouble, the board trying to win back a few of the fans by getting in a man that most Liverpool fans want as the new manager.

[alc09]

Oh yeah I did see that but I still think enough fire power back up is important and will increase competition for places.

Team is sliding down the league recently though:(.

Alc who is it you support again, Peterborough or Arsenal?.
Neither.

[bbfan1991]

Neither.

Who then?:).

[bbfan1991]

With the Dalglish appointment I can't see Liverpool making any real improvement - their problems run deeper than changing the manager. Benitiez left them with a piss poor squad.

Knee jerk reaction from a club in trouble, the board trying to win back a few of the fans by getting in a man that most Liverpool fans want as the new manager.

It's a temporary thing having a legend of the club to steer the players and get the fans on side during a difficult time:p. Only thing is got to watch he doesn't fall into Kevin Keegan territory by what happened at Newcastle:D.

Dalglish has a hell of a lot to do when it comes to sorting out the Liverpool team for sure.

[alc09]

It's a temporary thing having a legend of the club to steer the players and get the fans on side during a difficult time:p. Only thing is got to watch he doesn't fall into Kevin Keegan territory by what happened at Newcastle:D.

Dalglish has a hell of a lot to do when it comes to sorting out the Liverpool team for sure.
Correct - that won't happen until the summer though, and he may not still be at the club.

They only have 3 players good enough for a side looking for a title challenge. A big clear out is needed. They are nowhere near top 6 standard at the moment.

And I support Swindon mate.

[bbfan1991]

Correct - that won't happen until the summer though, and he may not still be at the club.

They only have 3 players good enough for a side looking for a title challenge. A big clear out is needed. They are nowhere near top 6 standard at the moment.

And I support Swindon mate.

I reckon they will get a couple this transfer window, although it's obvious to wait till the summer because there will be more quality available and most of them want to play in Champions League football but if some do want to play for them then expectations would have to be lowered for a while...

Cool:). What has happened this season because in the last last you were that close to getting promoted if it weren't for Leeds leaving it till the last minute after reducing their big gap from the rest during the middle of that season.

[Rob]

Chelsea flattening Ipswich currently 7-0

Leicester putting up a good fight against Man City, was 1-1 but Man City just made it 2-1

[Chels]

The arrogance was beyond belief - you were certain that you had it in the bag.


Jones has lost the plot, Jon 'donkey' Parkin. :joker:

We're second in January, we have a right to be optimistic of promotion. Didn't say we were gonna run away with it. One-man-team QPR aren't running away with it either.

Parkin's the last thing the opposition defence is going to want to see coming off the bench after being knackered out by Chopra, Bothroyd, Bellamy and Burke and soon to be Routledge. Nearly every championship defence can't deal with him because he's such a physical player.

[Chels]

Oh yeah I did see that but I still think enough fire power back up is important and will increase competition for places.

Team is sliding down the league recently though:(.

Alc who is it you support again, Peterborough or Arsenal?.

We're 2nd so it's all good and form has been picking up again. :) We've apparently agreed a deal with Everton for James Vaughan too, which would be a great signing as cover for Chops. Routledge is close to signing as the deal was originally done before Pardew came in at Newcastle and I'm buzzing to see him in a city shirt again, he'll rip the championship up! We were also in for Danny Wilson at Liverpool on loan til the end of the season, but now Roy's gone we'll need to see if he's in Kenny's plans to see if we get him or not.

[alc09]

I reckon they will get a couple this transfer window, although it's obvious to wait till the summer because there will be more quality available and most of them want to play in Champions League football but if some do want to play for them then expectations would have to be lowered for a while...

Cool:). What has happened this season because in the last last you were that close to getting promoted if it weren't for Leeds leaving it till the last minute after reducing their big gap from the rest during the middle of that season.
Thats the problem - which top quality players are going to want to join them in their current state? Not many.

We were very close to going up last season - we were still in with a chance on the last day of the regular season at Millwall. At one point when we went 1-0 up we were in 2nd place but then of course Leeds turned it around and both Swindon and Millwall had to settle for a play off place.

Made it to the final of the play offs at Wembley where we were deservedly beaten by a decent Millwall side, but may have been different if it wasn't for the Wembley turf as that cost us an equaliser near the end of the match. A real let down of a day, not just the result but the whole Wembley 'experience'.

As for this season...lost our captain, lost 29 goal top scorer to Leeds, and lost a loanee who scored 9 from midfield in half a season - and haven't replaced them. Manager is coming under a lot of pressure.

[alc09]

We're second in January, we have a right to be optimistic of promotion. Didn't say we were gonna run away with it. One-man-team QPR aren't running away with it either.

Parkin's the last thing the opposition defence is going to want to see coming off the bench after being knackered out by Chopra, Bothroyd, Bellamy and Burke and soon to be Routledge. Nearly every championship defence can't deal with him because he's such a physical player.
You were giving it the big 'un and you know it.

Are you familiar with the term 'polishing a turd', Chels?

[bbfan1991]

Thats the problem - which top quality players are going to want to join them in their current state? Not many.

We were very close to going up last season - we were still in with a chance on the last day of the regular season at Millwall. At one point when we went 1-0 up we were in 2nd place but then of course Leeds turned it around and both Swindon and Millwall had to settle for a play off place.

Made it to the final of the play offs at Wembley where we were deservedly beaten by a decent Millwall side, but may have been different if it wasn't for the Wembley turf as that cost us an equaliser near the end of the match. A real let down of a day, not just the result but the whole Wembley 'experience'.

As for this season...lost our captain, lost 29 goal top scorer to Leeds, and lost a loanee who scored 9 from midfield in half a season - and haven't replaced them. Manager is coming under a lot of pressure.

Exactly but football is a mysterious and fickle game:D.

I reckon Swindon will be fine:), although if they want to make a late push for the play offs which looking at the table looks unlikely they have to get a run together

[alc09]

Exactly but football is a mysterious and fickle game:D.

I reckon Swindon will be fine:), although if they want to make a late push for the play offs which looking at the table looks unlikely they have to get a run together
Very true.

League 1 is very close, a run of 3/4 wins and your in the top 6.

How do you fancy Uniteds chances this season? In my opinion, they are the poorest they have been for a very long time.

[Locke.]

Utd are poor this season but so is everyone else really.

Arsenal are never going to get a better chance than this year.

[alc09]

Utd are poor this season but so is everyone else really.

Arsenal are never going to get a better chance than this year.
Spot on....I still think Arsenal will fall short sadly but would like to see them win, as you say they won't get a better chance as the standard is piss poor.

[Locke.]

They have a decent run in really, they are at home when they play us, at home when they play Utd, at home vs Villa + Everton.. only bad game they've got actually is Spurs at their ground.

[alc09]

It's their defence and lack of striking options that worries me about them. They always come up short near the end of the season and I expect this one will be no different.

[30stone]

Arsenal have a consistancy problem more than ever...

Beating chelsea drawing to wigan destroying man city ( not scoring) drawing against leeds.

The title is for the taking if any of the top 5 can string say 7 wins in a row..

[Chels]

You were giving it the big 'un and you know it.

Are you familiar with the term 'polishing a turd', Chels?

Wouldn't any supporter who's team had Chopra, Bothroyd, Whittingham, Burke and Bellamy playing for them? Like I said we're 2nd so promotion looks to be on target for the time being.

Yes I am, funnily enough Parkin has got a good record at championship level so you clearly know jack about this league. We've signed him as a player who's gonna use his physical presence to rough up some tired centre halfs for the last 10-15 minutes of a match. We're talking with players like Vaughan and Routledge so we're obviously looking at giving it a good go for the final third of season.

[alc09]

Wouldn't any supporter who's team had Chopra, Bothroyd, Whittingham, Burke and Bellamy playing for them? Like I said we're 2nd so promotion looks to be on target for the time being.

Yes I am, funnily enough Parkin has got a good record at championship level so you clearly know jack about this league. We've signed him as a player who's gonna use his physical presence to rough up some tired centre halfs for the last 10-15 minutes of a match. We're talking with players like Vaughan and Routledge so we're obviously looking at giving it a good go for the final third of season.
And the rest of the 'capable Premier League players' in your side! Drinkwater, Hudson - even Lee ****ing Naylor!

I'm in awe, Chels, I really am.

Parkin is a journeyman striker, a donkey nearing the end of his career. A very strange signing and you know it.

[Rob]

A good game from Spurs today, just what we needed after Wednesday loss. Now to thrash Man U on Saturday :P

[Locke.]

Now to thrash Man U on Saturday :P

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[Rob]

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:)

[Locke.]

Ryan Babel is facing the possibility of disciplinary action from the Football Association after responding to Liverpool's 1-0 defeat at Old Trafford by posting a mocked-up photo on his Twitter site of the referee Howard Webb wearing a Manchester United shirt.


What the **** :bored:

[bbfan1991]

Ryan Babel is facing the possibility of disciplinary action from the Football Association after responding to Liverpool's 1-0 defeat at Old Trafford by posting a mocked-up photo on his Twitter site of the referee Howard Webb wearing a Manchester United shirt.


What the **** :bored:

He should have kept his thoughts to himself and not rant on Twitter where his name is visible and lots of people can see it, no wonder some footie managers ban their players from going on it.

If a United player done it about Liverpool you would want them punished wouldn't you?, as a United fan I also would think it's unprofessional of the player if it happened and would deserve a punishment;).

[Grimnir]

we could have had 3 or 4 penalties and only got 1

he should change name to ryan baby

itv had beglin and radio had lawrenson for commentary, both biased and bitter and both morons

[bbfan1991]

we could have had 3 or 4 penalties and only got 1

he should change name to ryan baby

itv had beglin and radio had lawrenson for commentary, both biased and bitter and both morons

Not to mention the bloody awful Alan Green on BBC Radio:rolleyes:. ITV should have had two commentators each, one to represent United and the other to represent Liverpool.

[Locke.]

He should have kept his thoughts to himself and not rant on Twitter where his name is visible and lots of people can see it, no wonder some footie managers ban their players from going on it.

If a United player done it about Liverpool you would want them punished wouldn't you?, as a United fan I also would think it's unprofessional of the player if it happened and would deserve a punishment;).

Players should be allowed to say what they want, they are just humans afterall. And especially when they are right in what they post, no one can argue that that was a penalty.

[Chels]

And the rest of the 'capable Premier League players' in your side! Drinkwater, Hudson - even Lee ****ing Naylor!

I'm in awe, Chels, I really am.

Parkin is a journeyman striker, a donkey nearing the end of his career. A very strange signing and you know it.

Drinkwater is gonna be a quality player one day, even Utd fans have said it. Hudson's one of the best centre halfs in the championship, such a professional and a good leader, also played well for Palace in the premiership and he was all over Fuller and Jones on Saturday... and Naylor? LOL WTF LMAO I never said he was premiership standard, he'd be okay for someone like Ipswich who are constantly mid-table but not for a team looking for promotion.. no clue where the ******* you got that idea from.

Parkin nearing the end of his career? He's 29. http://www.ccmb.co.uk/fudforum/images/smiley_icons/homer.gif

[alc09]

None of them are capable premiership players, they may be good at their current level but that doesn't mean they are premiership standard.

Nothing more than a lump nearing retirement - his legs have gone and its only a matter of time before he drops down the leagues.

Most appropiate term to describe him is a 'carthorse'.

Strange, strange signing.

Here is a view from a Preston fan on another forum:

Right here s the deal with Parkin.

Lazy , over weight oaf , who despite time and faclities a plenty cant even be bothered to get fit. Doesnt jump but prefers to drag his opponent down to get the foul. Wont chase cant chase.

Beer belly.

Has one good game in about 20. Similar to my record.

Useless embaressment , not a footballer.

Goodbye fatty.

[bbfan1991]

Ah!, well Parkin did score some vital goes for Preston during his time there, isn't the fickleness of footie fans great:D.

[Locke.]

Can remember Parkin playing against us in the FA Cup a couple of years ago, didn't pose any threat at all really even though the commentators bigged him up beforehand. Cardiff should have went for Neil Mellor instead

NdgKLfAYrZI

:worship:

[bbfan1991]

The so called Barcelona of England Arsenal saw their reserves get beat 10-1 by Aston Villa:shocked::D.

[bbfan1991]

Crawley Town beat Derby County 2-1, well done to them:).

[30stone]

The so called Barcelona of England Arsenal saw their reserves get beat 10-1 by Aston Villa:shocked::D.

LOL 10 - 1 bloody hell, that doesnt usually happen.

[30stone]

Aston villa have a pretty class reserve squad actually.

And no excuse but Arsenal were playing with 10 men for 82 minutes.

[Locke.]

Wayne Bridge to West Ham on loan, decent signing that

[30stone]

Yeah thats good for west ham


Suppose Zabaleta and Boateng both same position.

[30stone]

Arsenal goalkeeper Manuel Almunia has made up his mind to quit the Gunners and looks to be heading to Turkey.
According to the Star, the Spaniard told friends his Arsenal days are numbered and that Galatasaray are favourites to sign him.

The error-prone 'keeper has fallen out of favour at the Emirates, with Lukasz Fabianski and Wojciech Szczesny apparently now ahead of him in the pecking order.

Arsneal are believed to be asking for £1.5m for the 33-year-old.


Could easily get 3m for him.

[30stone]

Arsene Wenger has moved to reject fresh reports in Spain that an agreement has been reached to sell Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas to Barcelona.
The Gunners stood firm to fend off the interest of Barcelona during the summer, with a £30million bid for their star midfielder rejected. Wenger maintains there has been no softening on that stance.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1345333/Arsene-Wenger-baffled-latest-reports-linking-Cesc-Fabregas-Barcelona.html#ixzz1Aja91r6L


Lol.. anything less than 50 wouldnt be worth it.

[30stone]

OMG..


Arsene Wenger is rumoured to be readying a bid for Real Madrid defender Raul Albiol. The Arsenal boss has stated his desire to bring in more defensive options and is keen on bringing the Spanish international to the Emirates in January.
25 year old Raul Albiol arrived at the Bernabeu in June of 2009 and was a regular under previous boss Manuel Pellegrini, making 42 appearances in all competitions but he has since lost his starting eleven spot to Portuguese international Pepe which has led the former Valencia man to being restricted to just five La Liga starts this season.
The strong tackling centre back may well then be open to offers that give him regular first team football which will in turn increase the chances of Albiol getting a starting spot in the Spanish national team. Wenger has previously been linked with the likes of Per Mertesacker and Neven Subotic but moves to sign either of the Bundesliga stars have been hampered by the their respective clubs refusing any approaches for their prized assets.


Hes ****ing class!!!!

[30stone]

Arsenal are leading the race to sign Eden Hazard!

[30stone]

Ac Milan are ready to offer Alexandre Pato to Manchester City to convince them to part with Mario Balotelli.


If i could sell that arrogant little thug.. for a class player like pato i would 100%.

[30stone]

Henry is training at Arsenal, and will likely be positive for players play walcott.

[Locke.]

Wish Fabregas would either just **** off or tell Barcelona to **** off.

[Locke.]

Rangers just been drawn against Celtic in the 5th round of the Scottish Cup

[30stone]

It wasnt about fabregas, it was just rendom newspapers, because busquets hasnt signed new contract for barca yet because hes asking a lot...

Because man united wanna buy him and if he leaves then fabregas would go to barca..

[Locke.]

Dzenko's press conference :joker:

He's going to win the league for City this year

[alc09]

Could easily get 3m for him.
Would have to pay a club that amount to take him off you more like.

OMG..

Arsene Wenger is rumoured to be readying a bid for Real Madrid defender Raul Albiol. The Arsenal boss has stated his desire to bring in more defensive options and is keen on bringing the Spanish international to the Emirates in January.
25 year old Raul Albiol arrived at the Bernabeu in June of 2009 and was a regular under previous boss Manuel Pellegrini, making 42 appearances in all competitions but he has since lost his starting eleven spot to Portuguese international Pepe which has led the former Valencia man to being restricted to just five La Liga starts this season.
The strong tackling centre back may well then be open to offers that give him regular first team football which will in turn increase the chances of Albiol getting a starting spot in the Spanish national team. Wenger has previously been linked with the likes of Per Mertesacker and Neven Subotic but moves to sign either of the Bundesliga stars have been hampered by the their respective clubs refusing any approaches for their prized assets.

Hes ****ing class!!!!
Good signing if that happpens, be surprised though.

[bbfan1991]

Ac Milan are ready to offer Alexandre Pato to Manchester City to convince them to part with Mario Balotelli.


If i could sell that arrogant little thug.. for a class player like pato i would 100%.

LOL I don't believe that rumour and I actually think he wouldn't go to them but you never know:(.

[30stone]

Hleb showed how hes far to good for birmingham tonight only creative player on the pitch..

Held the ball, and looked for oppurtunity, the rest of them (bar carr he also played well)
were pretty poor.

Foster is also doing well as usual.

Im at half time right now..

[Locke.]

Obinna is a quality player but that was stupid what he done, especially after they had just conceded.

[Mark]

Due to the current financial problems surrounding some clubs, Man United have had to get rid of 15 backroom staff. The 5 refs and 10 linesmen are said to be devastated.

[Locke.]

^^ :joker:


Liverpool have prepared a £10m bid for Southampton's highly rated teenager Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain as they attempt to rebuild for the future and to back Kenny Dalglish's pledge of support for Fernando Torres with action.

The 17-year-old son of the former England international Mark Chamberlain has made only 14 starts for the League One club but is regarded by many at Southampton, and Liverpool's scouting department, as a better prospect than Theo Walcott was at the same age. Walcott's current club, Arsenal, are Liverpool's main rival for the signature of an attacking midfielder who has scored six goals this season, and the clubs hope to complete a deal in this transfer window.


This has pretty much been confirmed now. Plenty of sources saying it and our Director of football strategy was at their last game watching him.

10 mil is far too much for someone of that age though if you ask me

[Locke.]

Bellamy arrested on suspicion of assault

[bbfan1991]

^^ :joker:


Liverpool have prepared a £10m bid for Southampton's highly rated teenager Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain as they attempt to rebuild for the future and to back Kenny Dalglish's pledge of support for Fernando Torres with action.

The 17-year-old son of the former England international Mark Chamberlain has made only 14 starts for the League One club but is regarded by many at Southampton, and Liverpool's scouting department, as a better prospect than Theo Walcott was at the same age. Walcott's current club, Arsenal, are Liverpool's main rival for the signature of an attacking midfielder who has scored six goals this season, and the clubs hope to complete a deal in this transfer window.

This has pretty much been confirmed now. Plenty of sources saying it and our Director of football strategy was at their last game watching him.

10 mil is far too much for someone of that age though if you ask me

I know it's great for clubs to buy young players and develop them but IMO right now Liverpool need experienced players:).

I heard you guys have entered the race for Charlie Adam too according to Sky Sports News:p.

[Locke.]

We'll be signing plenty of young prospects because they are planning for the future aswell as this and next season. Can't see us signing Adam, wouldn't mind if we did but the only source on that so far is Sky.

[bbfan1991]

We'll be signing plenty of young prospects because they are planning for the future aswell as this and next season. Can't see us signing Adam, wouldn't mind if we did but the only source on that so far is Sky.

As you should do:). Chelsea and Manchester City have yet to do this!

Aston Villa and Birmingham are the only confirmed teams so far.

[alc09]

Nicklas Bendtner, football fake. Once again he has looked out of his depth against a Championship side - he should be shipped out by Wenger tomorrow.

It's a good job the French guy at centre back only cost Arsenal a couple of million or whatever it was - he's garbage.

Liverpool proving tonight that they have more underlying issues than just changing the manager - they have a very, very average squad.

[bbfan1991]

Nicklas Bendtner, football fake. Once again he has looked out of his depth against a Championship side - he should be shipped out by Wenger tomorrow.

It's a good job the French guy at centre back only cost Arsenal a couple of million or whatever it was - he's garbage.

Liverpool proving tonight that they have more underlying issues than just changing the manager - they have a very, very average squad.

Bentdner is such a meh player, can never forget those pink boots:joker:

I agree about Koscielny:), they should try and sign Chris Samba now he wants out from Blackburn.

Kenny's going to feel the pressure, I did say not even he is going to make miracles with that squad. The fans got their choice of manager and now they have to fully get behind him and give him time unlike Roy who wasn't going to last...

[Locke.]

That wasn't our first team tonight, that was Kenny giving the players that have been dropped over the months a chance to prove themselves. Which they didn't take.

Result will be forgotten about after we beat Everton on Sunday.

[alc09]

Of course it was your first team.

[bbfan1991]

That wasn't our first team tonight, that was Kenny giving the players that have been dropped over the months a chance to prove themselves. Which they didn't take.

Result will be forgotten about after we beat Everton on Sunday.

Babel should start, at least he injects pace into the side:p.

[Locke.]

Of course it was your first team.

Gerrard, Carragher, Aurelio, Cole, Babel, all missing.

[Locke.]

Babel should start, at least he injects pace into the side:p.

He wasn't even on the bench tonight, not sure if he was left out over the twitter thing or if he has some sort of injury he has picked up in training.

[alc09]

Gerrard, Carragher, Aurelio, Cole, Babel, all missing.
Like any of them bar Gerrard would have made a difference. :joker:

Aurelio, Cole and Babel have hardly been first teamers this season anyway, and Carragher is wank these days.

The better side won, of course Dalglish won't get any abuse but if Woy picked that side he would have been slated.

I blame Benitez for signing such ****e.

[Locke.]

Would have made more difference than Jovanovic and Poulsen.

We just haven't replaced the players we've lost with anyone that is as good as them.

Arbeloa > Johnson
Riise > Aurelio > Insua> Konchesky
Hyypia > Skrtel

Alonso> Aquilani > Meireles
Mascherano > Lucas

Garcia > Benayoun > Cole

Still no replacement for Keane either

[30stone]

Nicklas Bendtner, football fake. Once again he has looked out of his depth against a Championship side - he should be shipped out by Wenger tomorrow.

It's a good job the French guy at centre back only cost Arsenal a couple of million or whatever it was - he's garbage.

Liverpool proving tonight that they have more underlying issues than just changing the manager - they have a very, very average squad.

I dont think ive ever seen Arsenals passing so average.. Song made a difference, but denilson is **** and i would have started song ahead of denilson, and Bendtner was crap, Chamakh was better than bendtner and he played like 20 minutes, Fabregas was definately frustrated.. Eboue was complete ****...

I definately think the second leg...


----------Fabianski------------
Sagna-Djourou-Koscielny-Clichy

---------Song-Wilshire---------

--Walcott---Fabregas---Nasri--

------Van Persie/Chamakh------


And i think we will go through..

[30stone]

Ohh and i only had 50p left on my paddy power account so i put it on ipswich winning so i got 4.50 now lol.



Ohh yeah and... We do not want Chris Samba!! hes too inconsistant, and just not good enough..

Jan Vertorgen
Per Mertersaker


Arsenal's hopes of signing Borussia Dortmund centre-half Neven Subotic have been ended after the player's agent ruled out a move.

:(

[30stone]

Arsenal fans want Gary Cahill ahead of Per Mertesacker, but how would they each fit in to Wenger's defensive options?
Fans vote for Bolton defender, but Castrol Rankings rate German higher


Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has made no secret of his desire to bring in a new central defender in the January transfer window.

Goal.com UK revealed earlier this week that Per Mertesacker is high on the Gunners' wanted list, but they face competition from Manchester United and Chelsea.

With Thomas Vermaelen, arguably the Gunners' top centre-back, currently out injured as well as Sebastien Squillaci, Johan Djourou and Laurent Koscielny are Wenger's only prominent options at centre-back.
Mertesacker has been identified as Arsenal’s main target to solve their defensive problems. However, with a £20 million price tag and competition from title rivals Chelsea and Manchester United, the north London outfit are in for a hard time to capture his signature.

[30stone]

Andrei Arshavin could leave Arsenal to join Juventus, Arsenal want 20million for him, but it would pave the way for Eden Hazard to join Arsenal to fill the position.


That would be amazing.

[30stone]

Fabregas says Arsenal WILL overturn Ipswich at the emirates..

And Arsene wenger may go for matthew upson on the cheap as his contract ends at the end of the season.

[Locke.]

Would rather keep Arshavin, quality player and proven in the premiership.

[30stone]

Hes good, but hes lazy.. he cant play for more then 70 minutes (in my opinion)
Hes not old but hes 29 and you can see he does struggle a bit..

And hes just not playing well enough.. hes not as fast anymore either.

Hazard on the other hand looks like a great player...
Fast, tricky young... scores and creates, and has a wicked free kick.. he would be great and im sure he would defend better.

[30stone]

Owen Coyle waiting to see if he can take Carlos Vela on loan

Whilst new signing Wellington da Silva did not get a work permit and has agreed to go out on loan to Lavente.

[Locke.]

Actually do hope he does leave Arsenal though because he scores past us everytime we play you.. Ruined our title chase season before last in that 4-4 draw

[Locke.]

Think we might end up signing Charlie Adam now, here is what Holloway has said:


"I want him to go to a club which is not struggling, it's always been my goal to get him to one of the top five or six clubs,'' he said.

"Liverpool have not made an inquiry, but I would not be surprised after that. I would look at that one differently."

Bossed our midfield the other day, didn't see what the fuss was about before the game but would take him now.

[alc09]

Think we might end up signing Charlie Adam now, here is what Holloway has said:

"I want him to go to a club which is not struggling, it's always been my goal to get him to one of the top five or six clubs,'' he said.

Doesn't that rule Liverpool out?

[Locke.]

The second part of the quote doesn't, no.

[30stone]

^^ :joker:


Liverpool have prepared a £10m bid for Southampton's highly rated teenager Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain as they attempt to rebuild for the future and to back Kenny Dalglish's pledge of support for Fernando Torres with action.

The 17-year-old son of the former England international Mark Chamberlain has made only 14 starts for the League One club but is regarded by many at Southampton, and Liverpool's scouting department, as a better prospect than Theo Walcott was at the same age. Walcott's current club, Arsenal, are Liverpool's main rival for the signature of an attacking midfielder who has scored six goals this season, and the clubs hope to complete a deal in this transfer window.


This has pretty much been confirmed now. Plenty of sources saying it and our Director of football strategy was at their last game watching him.

10 mil is far too much for someone of that age though if you ask me

Arsenal are close to agreeing a £5million deal for Southampton youngster Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain.
Manager Arsene Wenger has moved swiftly to head off interest from Liverpool, Chelsea and Manchester United in the 17-year-old.
Arsenal have a strong relationship with Southampton after signing Theo Walcott in 2006 and the Oxlade-Chamberlain transfer will be similar.
They paid £5m for Walcott with another £7m based on appearances and England caps.
Southampton are still negotiating but hope to achieve £10m for Oxlade-Chamberlain, with the player staying on loan for the rest of the season. (Daily Mail)
It had looked like Arsenal were being beaten to the punch with regards to Southampton’s latest young starlet Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain but apparently, according to this source, a deal is practically in place to bring the attacking midfielder to the Emirates.

[30stone]

http://desigunner.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/combined-table-jan-13-2011.jpg

Immediately upon making that table, I realised these fans are geniuses. Arsenal have been an absolute shambles. My sincere apologies to every doom monger for genuinely believing in this team. How very naive of me!

The most obvious observation is that they haven’t won all their matches. We should not care that City and the Spuds have won 50 percent or less of their games or that Chelsea have a lower winning percentage than Arsenal. A club like Arsenal should be winning all their games.

Arsenal’s poor win record comes from the fact that there are no 20 goal strikers at the club, Arshavin is useless and doesn’t care, Cesc wants to be at Barca, there are no real wingers, no one can put a decent cross, and no one really wants to shoot at goal. The fact that Arsenal have scored 11 goals more than the next best just shows that we can do anything with statistics.

The central defenders are completely useless and this can be seen from the goals conceded. Arsenal are conceding 1 goal a game whereas United and Chelsea only concede 0.93! The Tiny Totts have been so good this season. They’re only conceding 1.38 goals per game. What a mistake it was to let Gallas leave. Arsene should learn from ‘Arry and buy English defenders like Dawson.

The best proof that Wenger must spend can be clearly seen from the performances of Man City. Their defensive record is even better than that of United and Chelsea!! And they’ve only lost 6 games compared to Arsenal’s 8. That’s 25 percent less losses than Arsenal. How’s that for a stat?! It doesn’t matter that they drew with Leicester City in the FA Cup or lost to a team like Lech Poznan in the Europa League.

Their loss against Arsenal at home was clearly an aberration. We all saw how great City were at the Emirates. They showed the value of buying proven central defenders and defensive midfielders. They also exposed all of Arsenal’s attacking weaknesses that I mentioned above.

Considering these facts I think it’s only fair that the fans are not getting behind the players when they’ve struggled for form. I mean why should a fan cheer someone like Arshavin who is making big bucks and not delivering. Just look at someone like Bale, now that’s a guy who should be cheered. He’s got 7 goals and 3 assists in the League at a rate of a goal or assist every 185 minutes. Just because Arshavin has 4 goals and 9 assists at a rate of a goal or assist every 108 minutes doesn’t mean he’s actually done well. Stats can even show that Arshavin’s overall contribution is better than Nasri’s who’s got a goal or assist in the League every 139 minutes. We all know that’s rubbish! Arsenal win because Nasri has been phenomenal and struggle because Arshavin has been useless.

We can all see he’s lazy and underperforming. It’s his job to lift the fans out of their miserable lives by winning matches and scoring wonder goals. It’s preposterous to suggest that fans should get behind the team or an out of form player when they’re not doing well.

I used to think Arsenal have a great squad and they’re trying hard. I think I was confused because Arsenal are the only team who are still in all four competitions. But based on the ‘facts’ discussed in this article, I’m beginning to change my mind. I’m sure there are a lot more observations that prove how wretched Arsenal have been this season. Please feel free to share your favourites.



Lol Great article.

[30stone]

Manchester United target Lassana Diarra’s agent has revealed that, although his contract runs out at the end of June, he will move in January.

Diarra has struggled to make an impact at the Bernabeu so far this season but has offers from Italy to consider as well.

Diarra has experience of Premier League football, having played for Arsenal, Chelsea and Portsmouth and would be seen as a good signing for Sir Alex Ferguson.

It is thought, though, Fergie would rather bring him in on a free transfer in June because Manchester United do not need another holding midfielder yet.

However, Owen Hargreaves’ Old Trafford contract also runs out at the end of the season so Manchester United will then be in the market and would not have to pay a fee to Madrid.

If they are to sign him, though, it now looks as though they will have to move quickly as interest in the player hots up.

His agent said: “His contract with Real Madrid expires in June, but will move as early as January. Diarra is considering several bids, even from Italy.”

[Mystic Mock]

http://desigunner.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/combined-table-jan-13-2011.jpg

Immediately upon making that table, I realised these fans are geniuses. Arsenal have been an absolute shambles. My sincere apologies to every doom monger for genuinely believing in this team. How very naive of me!

The most obvious observation is that they haven’t won all their matches. We should not care that City and the Spuds have won 50 percent or less of their games or that Chelsea have a lower winning percentage than Arsenal. A club like Arsenal should be winning all their games.

Arsenal’s poor win record comes from the fact that there are no 20 goal strikers at the club, Arshavin is useless and doesn’t care, Cesc wants to be at Barca, there are no real wingers, no one can put a decent cross, and no one really wants to shoot at goal. The fact that Arsenal have scored 11 goals more than the next best just shows that we can do anything with statistics.

The central defenders are completely useless and this can be seen from the goals conceded. Arsenal are conceding 1 goal a game whereas United and Chelsea only concede 0.93! The Tiny Totts have been so good this season. They’re only conceding 1.38 goals per game. What a mistake it was to let Gallas leave. Arsene should learn from ‘Arry and buy English defenders like Dawson.

The best proof that Wenger must spend can be clearly seen from the performances of Man City. Their defensive record is even better than that of United and Chelsea!! And they’ve only lost 6 games compared to Arsenal’s 8. That’s 25 percent less losses than Arsenal. How’s that for a stat?! It doesn’t matter that they drew with Leicester City in the FA Cup or lost to a team like Lech Poznan in the Europa League.

Their loss against Arsenal at home was clearly an aberration. We all saw how great City were at the Emirates. They showed the value of buying proven central defenders and defensive midfielders. They also exposed all of Arsenal’s attacking weaknesses that I mentioned above.

Considering these facts I think it’s only fair that the fans are not getting behind the players when they’ve struggled for form. I mean why should a fan cheer someone like Arshavin who is making big bucks and not delivering. Just look at someone like Bale, now that’s a guy who should be cheered. He’s got 7 goals and 3 assists in the League at a rate of a goal or assist every 185 minutes. Just because Arshavin has 4 goals and 9 assists at a rate of a goal or assist every 108 minutes doesn’t mean he’s actually done well. Stats can even show that Arshavin’s overall contribution is better than Nasri’s who’s got a goal or assist in the League every 139 minutes. We all know that’s rubbish! Arsenal win because Nasri has been phenomenal and struggle because Arshavin has been useless.

We can all see he’s lazy and underperforming. It’s his job to lift the fans out of their miserable lives by winning matches and scoring wonder goals. It’s preposterous to suggest that fans should get behind the team or an out of form player when they’re not doing well.

I used to think Arsenal have a great squad and they’re trying hard. I think I was confused because Arsenal are the only team who are still in all four competitions. But based on the ‘facts’ discussed in this article, I’m beginning to change my mind. I’m sure there are a lot more observations that prove how wretched Arsenal have been this season. Please feel free to share your favourites.



Lol Great article.

its a good thing your not a birmingham fan then if you think arsenal are playing ****.:joker:

[Locke.]

John Henry is in Liverpool this week, Luis Suarez will be partnering Torres up front in time for the Sparta Prague game.

[30stone]

its a good thing your not a birmingham fan then if you think arsenal are playing ****.:joker:

I think we will be fine soon enough.
But i dont particularly think we are playing bad its only the last 2 games.




Birmingham will be okay i think.. after a few wins.

[30stone]

Wenger says he wont be selling players in january.

[30stone]

Van der Vaart hails 'important' Arsenal starlet

Tottenham Hotspur midfielder Rafael van der Vaart has hailed the impact of young England star Jack Wilshere as one of the most important players at North London rivals Arsenal.
The Dutch international, who moved to England at the start of the season from Real Madrid, says he watched the 19-year-old closely from the stands when the Gunners played Spurs in the Carling Cup earlier this season; a match in which Wilshere steered Arsene Wenger’s side to a 4-1 win.
Speaking at Nike Town to assembled media, the White Hart Lane fan favourite spoke warmly of Wilshere’s qualities:
“I saw him playing for Arsenal against us in the Carling Cup. I was not playing, so I had a good position in the stadium.
“I really enjoyed his game because he was the best man on the pitch. When he controls the ball he’s always free. It looks easy. But it’s the most difficult thing.
"He’s so young and he’s already so important to the team, and I respect that.”



Usually hate van der vaart for what he said before..

but well done :) best man on the pitch :)

[Locke.]

Ba going to Stoke for around 5 million, great signing at a great price

[Locke.]

Georgie Thompson looking better than ever today

[bbfan1991]

Everton accept bid for Steven Pienaar:shocked:. SSN reckon it's from someone abroad...

[Locke.]

Inter Milan apparently.

They had no choice to accept, he rejected a new contract a while back, must be due to expire in the next few months

[bbfan1991]

Inter Milan apparently.

They had no choice to accept, he rejected a new contract a while back, must be due to expire in the next few months

Thanks, he'll have no chance in getting in that midfield with the likes of Sneijder, Motta etc around:shocked:.

[Locke.]

Liverpool defender Jamie Carragher will join Jeff Stelling and the regulars on Sky Sports News HD to give his views ahead of Sunday's Merseyside derby.

Carragher has been ruled out of the game with a shoulder injury, but will be in our studio from midday to talk about the key clash with Everton, as well as discussing the appointment of Kenny Dalglish as manager.

Carragher will also be donning a set of the famous Soccer Saturday headphones to bring you updates from one of the big Premier League games of the day, Chelsea v Blackburn.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12379_6663027,00.html

:dance:

[Mark]

Martin O'Neil lol

[King Gizzard]

http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/6d/81/0,,10265~9339245,00.jpg

:worship:

[30stone]

Aston Villa
Karim Benzema has told fellow Frenchman Gerard Houllier he is willing to join him at Aston Villa if Real Madrid get Emmanuel Adebayor


Wow, now that would be what you need!
He will score goals..

[30stone]

Liverpool are eyeing a £4million swoop for Charlie Adam after Ian Holloway dismissed a bid of £2m from an unnamed club. (Express)


Blackpool are keen to offer Arsenal midfielder Aaron Ramsey a chance to resurrect his career by proposing a loan deal for the Welshman

[30stone]

Chelsea have bid £3million for Steven Pienaar and now look set to beat rivals Tottenham in the battle to sign the Everton midfielder. (Sun)
Chelsea were last night closing in on Benfica centre-half David Luiz as the first piece in their new defence. The club are prepared to add Paulo Ferreira to the mix to conclude the likely £21million deal. And Carlo Ancelotti is also ready to sell Ferreira’s fellow Portuguese Jose Bosingwa in the summer – with Ajax and Holland right-back Gregory van der Wiel an £18m target for next term

[30stone]

Mark Hughes today refused to deny he was trying to bring Shaun Wright-Phillips to Fulham


Liverpool are weighing up an opening bid for Ajax striker Luis Suarez. The Uruguay international, 23, is rated at an optimistic £28million by Ajax but they are short of funds and realistically offers around £15million could clinch a deal.

[Locke.]

We've had people watching Suarez for the last few months, Ajax want 18 million apparently. John Henry is in Liverpool for 10 days (from yesterday) and is meeting with Dalglish today I think, so if we are going to make any signings this month I think they'll be in the next week or so.

If we sign Suarez then it'll be the happiest I've been about a signing since Torres

[Mark]

Coventry 0-0 Sheff Utd.

Frustrating game. Coventry had 14 shots on target and 15 corners in the first half, it was crazy. Couldn't get the ball in the net though.

http://www.mediastorehouse.com/image/football-preston-north-end-v-millwall-npower-football-league-championship-deepdale-10-11-27-11-10-iain-hume-preston-north-end-reacts-angrily-mandatory-credit-action-images-paul_4242929.jpg

Iain hume scoring in the 90th minute cost me a bomb today. Had a Watford/Nott Forest/Leicester/Leeds Multiplier. All won but Hume scored in the 90th to clinch a draw and lose my bet. Disgusting.

[seanraff07]

My bets were crap today, just went for a few dafts ones this weekend...

Tomorrow i have Birmingham Villa draw, Everton, Newcastle, Spurs Man.U draw.

[Locke.]

Had money on a Leeds and Chelsea double.

Leeds won 4-0 and Chelsea won 2-0 :)

Had a break from betting cos I was doing awful, but my last 2 have won (before this was Crawley to beat Derby in the FA Cup and Sergio Torres anytime scorer).

Looking on making it 3 in a row tomorrow with the Merseyside Derby

[Locke.]

Had money on a Leeds and Chelsea double.

Leeds won 4-0 and Chelsea won 2-0 :)

Had a break from betting cos I was doing awful, but my last 2 have won (before this was Crawley to beat Derby in the FA Cup and Sergio Torres anytime scorer).

Looking on making it 3 in a row tomorrow with the Merseyside Derby

[alc09]

Suarez would be a very good signing for Liverpool, but they should sort out their defence first. Start by getting rid of Konchesky and Johnson.

[seanraff07]

Coventry 0-0 Sheff Utd.

Frustrating game. Coventry had 14 shots on target and 15 corners in the first half, it was crazy. Couldn't get the ball in the net though.

http://www.mediastorehouse.com/image/football-preston-north-end-v-millwall-npower-football-league-championship-deepdale-10-11-27-11-10-iain-hume-preston-north-end-reacts-angrily-mandatory-credit-action-images-paul_4242929.jpg

Iain hume scoring in the 90th minute cost me a bomb today. Had a Watford/Nott Forest/Leicester/Leeds Multiplier. All won but Hume scored in the 90th to clinch a draw and lose my bet. Disgusting.

Just to make you that little more gutted, i just watched the highlights and Leicester actually hit the bar after Hume equalised.:shocked:

[Novo]

Suarez would be a very good signing for Liverpool, but they should sort out their defence first. Start by getting rid of Konchesky and Johnson.

They need a new back four none of their current defenders are good enough to play Europa league football let alone Champions league football, Johnson should be playing for a team like Stoke and the same goes for Konchesky.. I've also seen better center backs then Skrtel and Soto in the Championship.. Sol Bamba anyone?

[Mark]

Hah, I didn't realise Leicester hit the bar after.

Speaking of bars, yesterday Coventry overtook Leeds as the team in the championship that have hit the post and bar the most number of times this season :(

We have a run of QPR, Birmingham, Leeds and Nottingham Forest coming up now. Can see us dropping some points here :(

[Locke.]

Spearing starts. The only scouser in our line up.

Get ready for a masterclass.

[Locke.]

Kelly is starting aswell actually

[alc09]

They need a new back four none of their current defenders are good enough to play Europa league football let alone Champions league football, Johnson should be playing for a team like Stoke and the same goes for Konchesky.. I've also seen better center backs then Skrtel and Soto in the Championship.. Sol Bamba anyone?
Wise words Novo, wise words. Spot on.

[Locke.]

Decent game, a draw was about right. We were better in the first half, they were in the second half. Skrtel is ****ing terrible and we should just terminate his contract right now.

Anyway, time to watch Utd's unbeaten record be destroyed by Gareth Bale

[alc09]

Torres' attitude has been shocking this season. Is he the most injury prone player in England? Arguably.

His international mate, David Villa, has proven himself to be the better of the two, by far. The Torres/Villa debate was once one that could be argued, as well.

[Locke.]

He was back to his old self in the first half, couldn't really get into the game in the second half though

[Novo]

Torres has became lazy now, still to good to be playing for liverpool though

[Grimnir]

I settle for 0-0 now after 10 men :shocked:

got bad feelin spurs may win 1-0 in 89th minute or somethin

[Novo]

Owen needs to come on and get the winner

[Locke.]

Tottenham deserved to win

[Novo]

United back on top

[bbfan1991]

I'll be surprised if Suarez joins Liverpool, he's apparently and that word is being used loosely saying that he wants to play CL football and they can't offer him that at the moment:conf:.

Media getting carried away with United being unbeaten:rolleyes:, Fergie has already said that we will lose some way along the line and I agree with that...

[Mark]

Bent to Villa for 18-24m.

That makes Villas strikeforce are Young and Bent - just like their fans :devil:

[bbfan1991]

Bent to Villa for 18-24m.

That makes Villas strikeforce are Young and Bent - just like their fans :devil:

Nate won't be happy with that:nono:.

Bent is a decent signing for Villa, they need one more striker though:D.

[Locke.]

We got in contact with Ajax again last night apparently, it's just about meeting there valuation (between 18-21 million) and agreeing personal terms now. He is signed up to the same agency as Torres aswell supposedly so hopefully that will help out a bit

[alc09]

What on earth is Dalglish playing at with Downing, if true?! :joker:

[Locke.]

We've been linked with 3 Villa players in the last 24 hours, Downing, Warnock (6 month loan), and Young.

Downing would be alright as back up, don't see the point in Warnock, and would love Young but doubt we'll get him.

[bbfan1991]

I reckon Downing will stick it out at Villa, he's getting lots of first team football and seems to be enjoying it there but these footballers are fickle:D.

[Novo]

Can't see Suarez going to liverpool.. there is no chance of any champions league football next year.. Tottenham should bid for him once they Sell Keane

[bbfan1991]

Can't see Suarez going to liverpool.. there is no chance of any champions league football next year.. Tottenham should bid for him once they Sell Keane

I think Inter Milan will end up bidding for him, they're on a lookout for another striker despite being linked with Edinson Cavani from Napoli and they're hitting top form again after falling behind in the title race and close to getting back into the top 4:).

[Locke.]

They won't sell Keane now, none of the big clubs will want him, the smaller teams won't be able to pay his wages, and they won't loan him out

[Novo]

Sunderland will take him

[Locke.]

Sunderland will be signing Kyle Lafferty instead

[Novo]

They haven't got that kind of money

[MTVN]

Surprised to see O'Neill rule himself out of the running for West Ham manager, BBC were making it out to be a done deal. I'd like Avram to be given a few more games in charge I think, our recent results have been pretty solid, but if we do sack him then Big Sam to be his replacement hopefully

[Novo]

Avram Grant is going to lead West ham out of the relegation zone and take them to an FA cup/Carling cup Double

[MTVN]

Avram Grant is going to lead West ham out of the relegation zone and take them to an FA cup/Carling cup Double

:thumbs:

The board seem to be trying to force him out though, especially Karen Brady :bored:

[Locke.]

Hope Avram stays, he's been in the relegation zone for about 18 months but I reckon he'll save West Ham.

[30stone]

Had 26 pound on Tottenham vs MAn united drawing...

58.19 Return

83.19 pound back altogether :)

[Novo]

Not bad, bet you were ****ting it when United went down to 10 men

[30stone]

Arsenal ready to end trophy drought, says Thierry Henry
Former Arsenal striker believes his old club can finally end their six-year wait for silverware this season - If we beat ipswich and west ham/ birmingham...




Manchester City were yesterday preparing to hijack Arsenal's bid for Southampton wonderkid Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain. Sportsmail revealed last week that the Gunners were close to agreeing a £5million deal for the winger.
But big-spending City have now made their move to land the 17-year-old. Eastlands football administration officer Brian Marwood has been handed the remit of luring Oxlade-Chamberlain to City and has already made contact with Southampton.
Sources close to the player last night claimed they were expecting Marwood to speak with the teenager's advisers this week. The approach could be a fatal blow to Arsene Wenger's hopes of taking the youngster to the Emirates this month.[b] - Wankers..



[b]Arsene Wenger reveals Arsenal's Thomas Vermaelen could return against Barcelona despite Achilles operation
Frenchman tips defender to be back within six weeks - This is what i want, not only for Arsenal lol... but a good performance and i can buy him on fifa ultimate team :)


According to the ever-reliable caughtoffside.com, Arsenal are planning a £4.5million raid for Philippe Mexes of Roma.
The France international is out of contract in the summer and could be the ideal man to solve Arsenal's defensive crisis- Not a bad signing for just 4.5m..



With West Ham manager Avram Grant teetering on the brink of unemployment and the club paying the full £90,000-a-week wages of loan signing Wayne Bridge, ITV tried to cheer up their supporters by listing the halftime score of their match against Arsenal on Saturday as 2-0 in favor of the Hammers.
Of course, the actual haftime score was 2-0 to Arsenal before they added one more to make it a 3-0 final. But ITV's efforts to bring momentary joy to beleagured West Ham supporters and to drive rash Arsenal supporters to jump out of the nearest window were admirable. - lol..

http://i53.tinypic.com/14lrrko.jpg

[30stone]

Not bad, bet you were ****ting it when United went down to 10 men

Yeah well its not too bad it was my first bet with betclic so i would have got £20 back so loss of 6 pound, but i really wanted it to stay a draw lol.. as its 50 quid.. pays for my phone bill and hair cut... not bad eh lol

[Locke.]

Babel has passed a medical at Hoffenheim apparently, 7 mil euros :(

[alc09]

Had 26 pound on Tottenham vs MAn united drawing...

58.19 Return

83.19 pound back altogether :)
Fair play, was tempted with the under 2.5 goals market but thought better of it. Nice return for you there.

Babel has passed a medical at Hoffenheim apparently, 7 mil euros :(
You've shafted them with that fee to be fair.