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[Chels]

Doubt anyone will be watching it, but Albion have definitely played better than Liverpool.

:D COYB!

Shame then, Torres just put one past you :/

[Boothy]

Shame then, Torres just put one past you :/

Literally about 30 seconds after I posted that :(

Ah well, I wasn't really expecting a result away at Liverpool.

[Chels]

Literally about 30 seconds after I posted that :(

Ah well, I wasn't really expecting a result away at Liverpool.

Anfield is a tough place to go, it's like a fortress. All old grounds are like that, especially with plenty of support and loud fans

[Chels]

West Brom down to 10 men...

[Chels]

Sunderland 1-0 Man City

Darren Bent Pen.

[bbfan1991]

Albion lost 1-0, better than being 3 or 4 down.. Villa managed to hang onto the win, both went for it but at times at the back Villa were sloppy still they worked hard.

Sunderland:D.

[MissKittyFantastico]

SO frustrated. Completely outplayed Villa all over the park and still lost 1-0 after a silly mistake from Fellani. Should have been about 5-0 to us.

Coleman needs to play right midfield, solves our problem there beautifully, and looked threatening right from the off when he came off the bench.

Beckford isn't ready to play as lone striker, should have either gone 4-4-2 or started with Saha. Why Moyes brought Johnny on for Hibbo when we needed goals I don't know, and we can't play Rodwell out on the right again, he loses all his impact.

Despite all that we still should have fcking won, crazy amount of possession and something like 13 corners??!! And still couldn't find the back of the net I'm so annoyed!!!!!

[bbfan1991]

SO frustrated. Completely outplayed Villa all over the park and still lost 1-0 after a silly mistake from Fellani. Should have been about 5-0 to us.

Coleman needs to play right midfield, solves our problem there beautifully, and looked threatening right from the off when he came off the bench.

Beckford isn't ready to play as lone striker, should have either gone 4-4-2 or started with Saha. Why Moyes brought Johnny on for Hibbo when we needed goals I don't know, and we can't play Rodwell out on the right again, he loses all his impact.

Despite all that we still should have fcking won, crazy amount of possession and something like 13 corners??!! And still couldn't find the back of the net I'm so annoyed!!!!!


You guys were way better second half and Saha missed some right chances:shocked:. Good luck will soon come in the Toffee's direction;).

[King Gizzard]

That was lucky LOL

Great result

Hopefully the Mac gets the job and we can get some players in

The 2 youngs are amazing

[bbfan1991]

That was lucky LOL

Great result

Hopefully the Mac gets the job and we can get some players in

The 2 youngs are amazing

Albrighton really impressed me, Luke Young too:). I like Ashley Young but he kinda disappointed me a little and I don't think Carew or Agbonlahor did as much as they could..

Villa definetly need some more players before the window closes. A Young is deffo not going to Spurs IMO;).

[King Gizzard]

Luke Youngs face is so funny when he plays

http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/1/80/0,,10265~9011201,00.jpg

[bbfan1991]

Luke Youngs face is so funny when he plays

http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/1/80/0,,10265~9011201,00.jpg


Rabbit caught in headlights;).

Lerner's face was funniest at the end:D.

[King Gizzard]

I stood next to his daughter for ages in the Club shop when I went to the West Ham game haha

[King Gizzard]

But yeh I'm not gonna boast about the win cause Everton probably deserved something out of it but I'm delighted and fcking love the Collins and Dunne partnership

[bbfan1991]

I stood next to his daughter for ages in the Club shop when I went to the West Ham game haha

Awesome:D.

Villa have team spirit which is what a team like Manchester City who are just splashing cash here, there and everywhere lack but yeah Collins and Dunne are rocking it at the back.. Cuellar will be fighting it out with Young then for the right back spot.

[King Gizzard]

We need to get rid of Davies, silly prat, did you see Vienne game? where he tried to cannon it off the defender and it just went for a corner and they scored. Hes been crap for us as well, shadow of the player he was at the Albion

Should also try get rid of Sidwell and maybe Beye


Would love to get rid of Heskey but I don't see it.

[bbfan1991]

We need to get rid of Davies, silly prat, did you see Vienne game? where he tried to cannon it off the defender and it just went for a corner and they scored. Hes been crap for us as well, shadow of the player he was at the Albion

Should also try get rid of Sidwell and maybe Beye


Would love to get rid of Heskey but I don't see it.

I think right now seeing as the squad is small you need all the players really, fingers crossed those who the fans aren't keen on buck their ideas up.

I'm wondering what ambitions Lerner has since so far things aren't clearly going to plan at Villa Park:conf:.

[King Gizzard]

Lerner just wanted to get rid of the players that never play, cause its stupid paying there wages

Now were out of the crappy Europa League, we don't need as big a squad

[bbfan1991]

Lerner just wanted to get rid of the players that never play, cause its stupid paying there wages

Now were out of the crappy Europa League, we don't need as big a squad

True it reduces that side of things:p.

Tbh yeah even though the EL is kinda not good LOL Villa are lucky to qualify every time so far as there are teams out there wanting to be in that position, although obviously challenging for 4th is where you want to be:).

[30stone]

Whos RJ?

Anyway JAsskelinen is amazing!


Liverpool 1 - 0 West brom - thats fine.
Bolton 2 - 2 Birmingham - thats fine.
Aston villa 1 - 0 Everton - Wanted a draw but thats fine..
Sunderland 1 - 0 Man City - *deep breath*

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA

MUGS!

[MissKittyFantastico]

But yeh I'm not gonna boast about the win cause Everton probably deserved something out of it but I'm delighted and fcking love the Collins and Dunne partnership

Probably deserved something?! Lol we completely outplayed you in the first half, and for the majority of the game tbh. Had a stupid amount of corners (18 I think), at least 6 shots on target...I can't remember the last time I've felt so frustrated after a game, should have been about 3-1 to us at half time and about 5-1 at FT with the amount of possession and chances we had. Just couldn't put the ball in the back of the net as per usual when we dominate games! Your only goal came from a stupid defensive mistake.

Moysey made a couple of poor decisions today, and I want to know wtf is going on with the Yak, he was unavailable again for todays match, and he and Saha are our only proven strikers. Beckford is out of his depth at the moment and can't play as lone striker.

At least we've got a couple of weeks now before the Utd game at home, knowing us we'll go and pull off a solid win against them lol. Being an Everton fan is so bloody frustrating!! :hugesmile:

[30stone]

Everton
Shots on : 6
Shots off : 6
Corners : 18
Yellow Cards : 0
Fouls won : 20
Fouls Conceded : 10
Pass Success : 79.33%


Aston Villa

Shots on : 5
Shots off : 4
Corners : 4
Yellow Cards : 4
Fouls won : 9
Fouls Conceded : 20
Pass Success : 62%


Passesion
Aston Villa : 32.2%
Everton : 67.79%

[30stone]

Ohh and again.

Man city lost
LOL!!!!

[bbfan1991]

Ohh and again.

Man city lost
LOL!!!!

:cheer:

[bbfan1991]

David Villa scored on his Barcelona debut as the champions returned to the top of the table on the opening weekend of the Primera Liga 2010-11 season.

Lionel Messi and Andres Iniesta had earlier put the Catalan giants two up against Racing Santander before summer signing Villa headed in the third in a comfortable 3-0 win.

Woo Hoo!:).

Ben looks like Walcott is getting his confidence back...

[Rob]

Am disappointed with Spurs result yesterday.

[30stone]

Yeha its great to see, and if he doesnt get injured and that i think he could get 15 - 20 in all competitions.

Hopefully Fabregas will to he made a difference definately

glad Villa scored.

[30stone]

Am disappointed with Spurs result yesterday.

Typical wigan, beat chelsea 3 - 2 then lose 7 - 0 to chelsea.

You beat them what 8 - 1 now they beat you .

Im kinda glad tho i wanted defoe to score for fantasy team.

[bbfan1991]

Yeha its great to see, and if he doesnt get injured and that i think he could get 15 - 20 in all competitions.

Hopefully Fabregas will to he made a difference definately

glad Villa scored.

Arshavin is still my favourite Arsenal player:D. Jack Wilshere missed a right chance lmao what a wally.

LOL Rob you can't have good luck on your side all the time:p.

[30stone]

No wilshire had slipped already then tried to take the shot on his way down he done well to get a shot off for me.

Van Persie is mine still.

[bbfan1991]

LOL the Blackburn fans shouting at Fabregas '' Shouldn't you be in Spain now''

Arsenal fans response at the Blackburn fans '' Shouldn't you be in the Championship''

:laugh2:

[King Gizzard]

Wilshire what a mug. Obviously we dont know the whole story but if I was Englands brightest project, hell if i was just a normal youth player, the last thing i would be doing is going out into the early hours at clubs ffs. Even if he was allegedly a 'peacemaker' in the situation.

I'd be putting everything I have into football.

[30stone]

LOL the Blackburn fans shouting at Fabregas '' Shouldn't you be in Spain now''

Arsenal fans response at the Blackburn fans '' Shouldn't you be in the Championship''

:laugh2:


LOL!
Ahaha

I used to really like blackburn.
I think i dislike them a lot under Sam though..

[30stone]

Arsenal Captain Will Join Barcelona Next Summer As Part of £100m Double Premier League Swoop


Barcelona – fresh from signing Javier Mascherano – will launch a £100million double swoop for Cesc Fabregas and *Fernando Torres next summer.

That’s the amazing claim of Nou Camp midfielder Xavi.

The World Cup winner reckons the Catalan giants are *determined to land the two *Spanish superstars.

Barca swooped for Liverpool’s Argie midfielder Mascherano in a £22m deal at the end of last week.

And Xavi reckons they are determined to raid the Premier League again in 2011 for *Liverpool striker Torres, 26, and Arsenal captain Fabregas, 23.

Xavi, 30, said: “Every Barcelona player wanted Cesc to join this year – we made no secret of that.
“But we are prepared to wait another year.
“Everybody in football knows where Cesc’s heart is.

“He’s from Barcelona and was a youngster at the club. It’s not like we have to try to convince him to join – it’s where he wants to be.

“We know the longest we have to wait for Cesc to come home is another 12 months.

“Everybody can live with that. We would love Nando at Barcelona too – he is the most complete striker in the world.

“We have seen what he and David Villa can do for Spain and to have that every week at club level would be frightening.

“I believe he is getting quite disheartened.”

And Xavi is scathing about Torres’ club prospects for this season.

The Spaniard had a close look at Liverpool as the Merseyside club dumped Barca out of the Champions League in 2007 – the season before Torres joined.

And Xavi added: “The season before last Liverpool sold Xabi Alonso to Real Madrid – and now this season they have sold Mascherano.

“Being brutally honest they haven’t brought any top-class players in to replace the ones they have sold.
“They haven’t tried to improve the squad.

“Nando deserves to be playing with the best players like he does with Spain.
“If Liverpool have another disappointing season that will be it for him.”

[30stone]

Liverpool Ready to Offer Tempting £14m Player Plus Cash Move for England International: Hodgson Wants Carlton Cole
Liverpool manager Roy Hodgson, reportedly keen to bolster the Reds’ attacking options, is said to be targeting West Ham United striker Carlton Cole – and may be prepared to offer the Hammers Ryan Babel or Lucas as sweeteners in a possible cash-plus-player deal.


MOURINHO WILL FOLLOW FERGIE - SNEIJDER
Wesley Sneijder believes Jose Mourinho will replace Sir Alex Ferguson at Manchester United when the Scot eventually steps down.
Ferguson has been in charge for almost 24 years at Old Trafford, overseeing the most successful period in the club's history.




Arsenal Plan Last Ditch Move for £14m Rated Keeper Hugo Lloris
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger will make a last ditch attempt to sign Lyon keeper Hugo Lloris and may offer Manuel Almunia as part of any deal to take the French international from the Ligue 1 side. The Gunners boss is still trying to capture Mark Schwarzer from Fulham but is looking to hedge his bets by making a substantial offer for the 23 year old Nice born goalie.

Lyon have started the season poorly and sit 15th in the domestic table after the opening four games and Lloris could be persuaded to make the move to the Premier League, a move he may feel is a step up from the Ligue 1.

Although some reports believe that the Emirates boss is willing to stick with Manuel Almunia and Lukasz Fabianski it is worth noting that Wenger has made bids for replacements for the current first team pair which would indicate a willingness to bring in a new first choice custodian.

A move Laurent Blanc’s first choice international keeper won’t come cheap and a bid in the region of £14m would be needed to secure the highly rated Lloris.


I know its probably untrue but OHHHH MYY GOSH!
I want Lloris!!!!

[alc09]

Barcelona were superb tonight as always, a class apart from any other side in the world. Hard to see how Fabregas would even get in.

[King Gizzard]

Yaya Toure is so awful haha. Well, awful for man city so far

Plus fat

[30stone]

Hes built like a bloody wall, but good to see hes been average.

[King Gizzard]

200k a week is a joke, no matter who you are

[30stone]

Messi yes, David Villa yes.
Torres yes.

Yaya toure? no way lol.

[DDRickyDD]

Good to see my team have won again. We haven't conceaded a goal yet and sit at the top of the league with an 100% record.

[setanta]

Exclusive United target £10m Rodwell

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3116633/Man-Utd-have-lined-up-a-10m-bid-plus-Michael-Carrick-for-Jack-Rodwell.html

Think this is just idle speculation or could it actually happen?

[30stone]

Not sure about that.

I have no doubt they want him, but not sure if he would come, not this season at least.

But its true he could be worth a lot lot more next season.

And anyway if they played 12m for chris smalling.. then this is like 16 - 17m and knowing what moyes is like, he will be aiming for 22m or something.

[setanta]

They're getting Carrick though in the deal too. Well, that's if it's not just a rumour.

[30stone]

Well i was almost right.

10m + Carrick = 22m according to Fergie.

Manchester United to Offer Everton Tempting £22m Swap Deal


Liverpool plot move for French international
Liverpool - Lassana Diarra a reported Anfield target
Liverpool have reportedly joined the race to sign French international midfielder Lassana Diarra.
The 25-year-old midfielder is thought to be one of a string of players poised for a Real Madrid exit in the closing stages of the transfer window, and Liverpool boss Roy Hodgson is thought to be keen on the player.


Wenger defends Fabregas.
Arsene Wenger has told the fans that he expects unsettled captain Cesc Fabregas to be back to his best for the Gunners, report the Guardian. Le Professeur withdrew the Spaniard from the Blackburn match after only an hour, despite a decent performance from the World Cup winner. Wenger said: "I don't think he is the type to give anything less than his best, just because he didn't get a move. He may have wanted to join Barcelona but he loves Arsenal as well." Wenger went on to add that once Fabregas is match-fit, he will also likely be mentally ready to return to his best for Arsenal.



Juventus are looking to pip West Ham to Arsenal left-back Armand Traore on a year-long loan deal. - One of the best young left backs around.
"Yes, Traore is one of the players we are interested in. We will see what happens," said Juventus general director Beppe Marotta.


Roberto Mancini has indicated that Robinho and Roque Santa Cruz could leave Manchester City before the transfer window closes.



Spurs close in on £8m signing
The Daily Mail reports that Scott Parker could head to Tottenham.


Arsenal boss Wenger cannot rule out late signing


Everton defender Jagielka: I discussed Arsenal offer with Moyes
Seems both Moyes and Jagielka decided they were happy with him to stay.



The manager said:

Mark Schwarzer has made it clear that he would like to go to Arsenal so we are trying to look at other options.

I’m always interested in quality players and Shay Given is a quality player. Make of that what you will.

But I have said that if we can’t get anyone else in, Schwarzer will have to stay.

[30stone]

They're getting Carrick though in the deal too. Well, that's if it's not just a rumour.

Thats what i meant this deal is probably worth max of 20m i dont think carrick is worth more than 10m..

[MissKittyFantastico]

Rodders is going nowhere, he's just signed an improved 5 year deal and do you honestly think Moysey will let another of our star youngsters go to Utd after what happened with Rooney?!!

Plus Carrick is overrated and ****e.

Go look elsewhere Taggart (and everyone else for that matter) our players are not for sale!

[MissKittyFantastico]

Thats what i meant this deal is probably worth max of 20m i dont think carrick is worth more than 10m..

Exactly, he's not even worth that imo, piss taking papers chatting ****e again.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Oh and Jags didn't want to go to Arsenal either, he's happy at Everton and wants to repay them for looking after him when he was injured.

[bbfan1991]

Rodders is going nowhere, he's just signed an improved 5 year deal and do you honestly think Moysey will let another of our star youngsters go to Utd after what happened with Rooney?!!

Plus Carrick is overrated and ****e.

Go look elsewhere Taggart (and everyone else for that matter) our players are not for sale!

Typical paper talk Kitty:rolleyes:. Sir Alex Ferguson and David Gill have already said on video that Man United aren't going to sign any more players in this window anyway.

[bbfan1991]

West Brom going to sign Paul Scharner on a free transfer from Wigan;):D.

[30stone]

Report: Schwarzer could sign today if given is declared fit.



Arsene Wenger convinced Cesc Fabregas will be Arsenal's talisman again this season
Catalan will captain by example...


Inter Milan have been linked with a shock swoop for Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas.

Reports in Italy say the European champions are ready to offer £32.5million for the Gunners captain - a fee in the region of that already rejected when Barcelona came calling for Fabregas earlier this summer. - 32.5m why does everyone underate fabregas???

If rodwell is worth 20m +
Chris smalling worth 12m.


Torres worth 60 - 70m
Augero worth 40 - 50m

Then Fabregas is worth 55 - 60m

[30stone]

Arsenal Transfer Prospect: Could Andy Carroll Be Just What Wenger Needs?

[bbfan1991]

Spurs target Luis Fabiano signs new deal with Sevilla:):D.

[bbfan1991]

Kevin MacDonald insists Aston Villa have received no contact from Tottenham regarding Ashley Young.

[King Gizzard]

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/aston-villa-specials/next-permanent-manager

Moyesy boi has risen a considerable amount

[30stone]

David Moyes wouldnt leave Everton unless he was fired.


Surprised how many managers are on there.

Guss Hiddink at 609 lol.

[30stone]

Rumour: Llorente – Insua swap deal?

Reports in Spain this evening suggest Liverpool have agreed a deal to bring Spanish striker Fernando LLorente to Anfield, with full back Emiliano Insua going in the opposite direction.


http://www.thisisanfield.com/blog/2010/08/30/rumour-llorente-insua-swap-deal/


Honestly if roy has done this it will be amazing.

Seeing that guy in the world cup, hes tall built like a wall fast strong.. good player, and hes spanish.

[Chels]

No restrictions for Millwall fans travelling to Cardiff for our home game against them on the 25th of September

http://www.millwallfc.co.uk/page/TicketInfo/0,,10367~2136976,00.html

What a facking stupid idea! There'll be absolute carnage no doubt! Police will be out in force that day...

[30stone]

Millwall fans and Cardiff fans ohh dear, riot..

both start fights.

[bbfan1991]

Millwall fans and Cardiff fans ohh dear, riot..

both start fights.


Police idea of hell:p;).

[bbfan1991]

Teams will have to name the squads with a certain number of homegrown players by 5:00:).

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11675_6352239,00.html

Sky Sports News understands Tottenham Hotspur missed the deadline to finalise the paperwork for the signing of Rafael van der Vaart.

[30stone]

Which teams have been sorted then?

[bbfan1991]

Former Aston Villa player Alan Curbishley has reportedly emerged as one of the candidates to take charge at Villa Park.

[30stone]

Arsenal offered lyon 16m euro for lloris, lyon said they didnt consider it because it was to late for them to find a replacement!

If they had done that 2 weeks ago we would have hugo lloris!! -.-

[bbfan1991]

Arsenal offered lyon 16m euro for lloris, lyon said they didnt consider it because it was to late for them to find a replacement!

If they had done that 2 weeks ago we would have hugo lloris!! -.-

There was quotes from the player himself that he wanted to stay at Lyon:conf:.

[30stone]

Just read an article saying lyon didnt want to sell due to the late offer on deadline day.


Wenger thinks he will be able to get him next year lol.

[alc09]

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3121098/Swindon-Advertiser-beat-South-Coast-Clubs-picture-ban-by-using-Subbuteo.html

:joker:

[30stone]

Arsenal Defender Bacary Sagna Not Moved By France Captaincy Rumours
Right-back eager to pass on his experience...


Arsenal defender Bacary Sagna has says he is unconcerned about rumours he is to be named the new France captain.

New head coach Laurent Blanc is on the lookout for a skipper after previous incumbent Patrice Evra's five-match ban after his role in the World Cup 2010 disaster. The ex-Manchester United defender has declared he will choose his successor on Friday, with Sagna, Roma's Philippe Mexes and Chelsea's Florent Malouda the rumoured candidates.

Speaking to L'Equipe, Sagna stated he will just concentrate on passing on his experience to the younger players in the squad.

He said: "As a player called regularly, yes, I think [I could be a candidate].

"Now, the most important thing is first to be powerful, to pass on my experience to the younger players and put them at ease.

"My role is to defend the colors of the France team, not worry about that [captaincy].

"But I think every player here feels important. In order to make an impression and assert themselves, it takes personality."


Anyone think he would be a good captain?

[bbfan1991]

This international break really pisses me off tbh:mad:.

[King Gizzard]

Armenia 0 - 0 Ireland HT.....

[bbfan1991]

Gerard Houllier linked with Aston Villa:shocked:.

[bbfan1991]

Meh hope England win tonight but i'm not really bothered about the match:).

[King Gizzard]

Loads want the job its actually crazy

[bbfan1991]

Loads want the job its actually crazy

Birmingham is an attractive place to live:p, plus Villa is a club on the up and has ambitions can't blame someone for wanting a piece of it.. Lerner does seem to strike me as a person who is very business orientated and in control, however when it comes to the football side he should keep his nose out;).

[Shaun]

I know Bulgaria aren't exactly top-flight opposition, but why couldn't we play like this 3 months ago? :(

[bbfan1991]

Glad we won:), nice play however the international thing is getting on my nerves now..

[30stone]

Great win for England.

They done very well last night.

Could tell walcott was trying to hard, thinking about what that tit hansen said, looked like he was distracted by it.

[30stone]

Serdar Tasci has not given up on a dream move to Arsenal in January.
The Germany defender was a summer target for the Gunners and north London rivals Tottenham, but Arsene Wenger was put off by Stuttgart’s £10m price tag.
Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger instead signed Lorient defender Laurent Koscielny and Sebastien Squillaci from Spanish side Sevilla.
But highly rated Tasci, 23, is still hoping to attract a bid from the Londoners in January and his representatives have made it known he would welcome the challenge of playing in the Premier League.



According to the agent of Marco Borriello, Real Madrid tried to sign the Italian international prior to Tuesday’s transfer deadline day, but were scuppered because Karim Benzema refused a transfer to Marseille. Jose Mourinho recently expressed his disappointment at failing to bring a striker to Madrid this summer, not least because he harbours concerns about Benzema, who has been strongly linked with a move to Manchester United for the last two years.



Theo Walcott was delighted to see Jermain Defoe steal his mantle of the last player to score a hat-trick for England on Friday night, hailing his team-mate's complete performance against Bulgaria.
Defoe plundered three of his country's goals in yesterday's 4-0 win at Wembley as their European Championship qualifying campaign got off to a flying start.
http://www.sportinglife.com/football/news/story_get.cgi?STORY_NAME=soccer/10/09/04/SOCCER_England_Walcott.html&TEAMHD=soccer


"Outrage at Arsene Wenger as he cheats the homegrown rules."
What??? Really how did he cheat it, FA made the rules and he followed them accordingly..

[bbfan1991]

Soccer AM is funny, not seen it for a while:D. The Soccerettes are delicious too LOL:p:blush:.

[30stone]

Arsenal are reportedly set to face stiff competition from Serie A outfit Fiorentina as they attempt to complete the signing of highly-rated midfielder Ibrahim Afellay.
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2010/09/04/2102713/arsenal-face-battle-with-fiorentina-over-potential-signing




Underated yet great player.
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[30stone]

Alan Hansen outed lol.


BEfore the world cup..

Before the World Cup, he wrote a column in which he said that Walcott had no natural instincts to play football. That if he was given time on the ball he was fine but that he had no clue how to play the ball instinctively.

It is no slight on a player to accuse them of not having a football brain. You either have one or you don’t. It is about natural instinct, the innate ability to see things before they happen. Wayne Rooney has it and Kenny Dalglish had it. When Bob Paisley used to say at Liverpool that, at the highest level, the first two yards were in the head, he was spot-on.

If Theo Walcott had that ability to see the picture opening up, that football brain, he would be a world-beater, but he has a long way to go and we still don’t know how he will ultimately turn out.


This season..

I had to go back and look it up because when I watched the video of Hansen on Match of the Day I swore that he said just the opposite: that his instincts were just fine, but that Theo struggled when given too much time.

What you’re always going to judge him on is not what he does well and what he does instinctively, it’s when he’s got time to think about it. That’s the big criticism, when he’s got time to think about what’s happening I think he struggles a bit.



Completely contradicted himself lol!

[30stone]

Arsenal name Champions League Squad.


Goalkeepers : Manuel Almunia, Lucasz Fabianski, Vito Mannone, Wojciech Szczęsny, James Shea.

Defenders : Bacary Sagna, Thomas Vermaelen, Laurent Koscielny, Sébastien Squillaci, Johan Djourou, Gael Clichy, Emmanuel Eboué, Kieran Gibbs, Daniel Boateng, Tom Cruise, Craig Eastmond, Jay Emmanuel-Thomas, Cedric Evina, Gavin Hoyte, Havard Nordtveit.

Midfielders : Abou Diaby, Cesc Fabregas, Thomas Rosicky, Samir Nasri, Denilson, Aaron Ramsey, Alex Song, Jack Wilshire, Chukwuemeka Aneke, Emmanuel Frimpong, Conor Henderson, Henri Lansbury, Mark Randall, Nicholas Yennaris.

Forwards : Robin Van Persie, Carlos Vela, Theo Walcott, Andrei Arshavin, Marouane Chamakh, Benik Afobe, Roarie Deacon, Rhys Murphy, Nicklas Bendtner, Gilles Sunu.


44 man squad whats the max?

[seanraff07]

Arsenal name Champions League Squad.


Goalkeepers : Manuel Almunia, Lucasz Fabianski, Vito Mannone, Wojciech Szczęsny, James Shea.

Defenders : Bacary Sagna, Thomas Vermaelen, Laurent Koscielny, Sébastien Squillaci, Johan Djourou, Gael Clichy, Emmanuel Eboué, Kieran Gibbs, Daniel Boateng, Tom Cruise, Craig Eastmond, Jay Emmanuel-Thomas, Cedric Evina, Gavin Hoyte, Havard Nordtveit.

Midfielders : Abou Diaby, Cesc Fabregas, Thomas Rosicky, Samir Nasri, Denilson, Aaron Ramsey, Alex Song, Jack Wilshire, Chukwuemeka Aneke, Emmanuel Frimpong, Conor Henderson, Henri Lansbury, Mark Randall, Nicholas Yennaris.

Forwards : Robin Van Persie, Carlos Vela, Theo Walcott, Andrei Arshavin, Marouane Chamakh, Benik Afobe, Roarie Deacon, Rhys Murphy, Nicklas Bendtner, Gilles Sunu.


44 man squad whats the max?

I thought it was 23 max, i think they will just start of with they players and will get rid of half that squad in the coming weeks once they decide who deserves to be in the final 23.

[30stone]

Thomas Rosicky is like having a new signing.



People have been praising rosicky after his first 3 games, where he has been great in all 3.

[30stone]

I thought it was 23 max, i think they will just start of with they players and will get rid of half that squad in the coming weeks once they decide who deserves to be in the final 23.

I dont know if there is something like a b - team it says.

Like when we had already qualified we played loads of youngsters last year.

[bbfan1991]

Kanchelskis said that Arshavin is overrated.. I disagree:(.

[Chels]

Toshack out. Please. Or we'll kill him.

[Boothy]

Urgh. Woke up this morning thinking Albion were at home to Spurs so I got all excited for that, then realised Premier League games aren't being played this week D:

Nothing to do now.

[alc09]

Chels, Mourinho couldn't get that shower of ****e to play well - your team is ****ing wank bar two.

Walcott was wank last night, has no end product.

[alc09]

Urgh. Woke up this morning thinking Albion were at home to Spurs so I got all excited for that, then realised Premier League games aren't being played this week D:

Nothing to do now.
Simon Cox - football genius.

Agree?

[30stone]

Kanchelskis said that Arshavin is overrated.. I disagree:(.

Yeah i saw that.

A lot of people saying hes jealous because Arshavin is hugely popular in Russia now.
And overated when you score 4 against liverpool at anfield? and score crucial goals? Right lol..

[bbfan1991]

I'm more hopeful the Baggies can try and stay up this time, the yoyo stuff is crazy LOL:).

Want it to hurry up for club football again already..

[30stone]

Im happy for them to stay up so long as Arsenal beat them..

[King Gizzard]

Thank the heavens James collins is alright

Got kippered most of the night vs Montenegro but for Villa he's amazing

[Chels]

Chels, Mourinho couldn't get that shower of ****e to play well - your team is ****ing wank bar two.

Walcott was wank last night, has no end product.

We're not shyte. The individuals who play for us are great, we have the likes of Bellamy, Bale, Collins, Church, Earnie, Williams (can't believe I just admitted that, but he's the scum's only good player), Morison who's one for the future along with Blake and Matthews... the U21 side look awesome and they'll be pushing to get in the first team, and don't forget we have Rambo and Collison to come back from injury.

The problem is that clueless, tactically inept, fat horrible jack **** can't get these players to play as a team. We need someone in who can fire-up the boys, not some lard arsed tosser who couldn't inspire jesus and select some of the ****tiest players possible like Ledley and Ricketts. Look at some of the quality players who's retired because of him: Koumas, Simon Davies, Parry. Get Tosh out and get Flynn in, he might take us somewhere.

/rant

[bbfan1991]

From a selfish Man United fan point of view Ryan Giggs made the best decision by retiring from Wales:).

Wales have some promising young talent, however it will take a lot of time for it to develop. Northern Ireland seem to be doing good..

[30stone]

Aaron Ramsey, cannot wait until he is back.

[King Gizzard]

http://www4.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/West+Ham+United+v+Everton+Premier+League+GxH75zBpF Ujm.jpg

[King Gizzard]

There was actually reports that his career could of been over :shocked:

[King Gizzard]

I'm on about Collins btw

[30stone]

Manchester City striker Emmanuel Adebayor says that Manchester City feels like a bigger club than Arsenal.

The Togo striker was thought to be in line for an Eastlands exit following Manchester City 's signing of Mario Balotelli . However, Adebayor was selected in Roberto Mancini's 25-man Premier League squad and believes that with the caliber of players at their disposal, Manchester City are bigger than the Gunners.

Asked by FHM if City felt bigger than Arsenal, Adebayor replied, "Yeah it does feel like that… With the great new players we've got we have a wonderful chance to make history.

"But it's all about results. If we can win ten games in a row, people will class Manchester City as bigger than Arsenal."

The 26-year-old is set to further antagonize Arsenal fans as he commented on his controversial goal celebration against the Gunners last season.

Adebayor said, "I showed the fans my hunger, passion and I showed my love for the club… Ultimately, the fans just want to see that and feel it inside their bodies."

[30stone]

Dutch winger Arjen Robben says Tottenham have signed one of the best midfielders in the world in Rafael Van Der Vaart , and has compared him with Arsenal captain Cesc Fabregas .

“With Rafa on board, Spurs really do have one of the very best midfield players in the Premier League, maybe even the best," Robben told the Star.

“I don’t know why he didn’t join Bayern in the end. I really wanted him but Spurs have bought a gem.

“In terms of his vision, his range of passing, his ability to split a defence and his eye for goal he is as good as Cesc Fabregas , Steven Gerrard and of course Frank Lampard.

“He is that bridge for Spurs that makes them go from a very good Premier League club to a team capable of taking on and beating any side in Europe on their day.”

“When you consider the amount of money Real Madrid and Manchester City have spent on players, it’s almost unbelievable to think what Spurs reportedly paid for Rafa.

“Madrid almost gave away one of the best players in the world – but that’s their style.

“They got rid of me and Wesley Sneijder in the same summer and I went on to win my domestic league and get to the Champions League Final while Wesley went on to win the Treble and become the best player in the world.

“Madrid’s mistake will very much be Spurs’ gain.

“I knew of his interest in England and that van Persie had been speaking with him about how great life in London was.

“I think when Robin was trying to convince him how great London and the Premier League was, it was as though he was trying to convince him to join Arsenal.

“It’s kind of backfired on Robin a little bit now, though, because he has signed for their biggest rivals.

"Before Rafa signed, I’d still have had Arsenal down as the stronger team – but now I don’t think there is anything between them.”

“For fans who have not seen a lot of him, I would compare him to Cesc Fabregas . He can play out wide, but his ideal position is playing in the middle of the park as playmaker.

“Spurs can play him as they wish but he is by far the most talented player in their squad. If they don’t build the team around him in the middle, it will be a big waste.”



Robben and Adebayor are off their rockers laughable LOL

[bbfan1991]

Naughty Rooney:shocked::p.

[Chels]

Rooney's a *******. That is all.

[Chels]

I'm on about Collins btw

Nah he still got a lot of life left in him, when were these reports? I can't believe the foul on him wasn't even given ¬¬ what the *******.

[alc09]

Chels, Bellamy and Bale - yes, superb.

The other names you listed are not international class. None of them what so ever. We had two strikers at STFC last season better than Morison.

So the reason your ****, is because you have a very, very **** side bar Bale and Bellamy.

[seanraff07]

Rooney's a *******. That is all.

You forgot to say he's **** at football.

[King Gizzard]

http://www.liverpool.is/Myndasafn//Timabil2003-2004/Houllier/090703-houllier_03.jpg

[King Gizzard]

You forgot to say he's **** at football.

He isn't though..

[seanraff07]

He isn't though..

The penalty he scored against West Ham was his first goal in 14 games, and the goal to end that drought was a penalty. One of the most over-rated players ever, along with the £30m rated Milner.:laugh2:

[alc09]

Don't be silly, Sean.

[seanraff07]

Don't be silly, Sean.

Ok, i exaggerated in saying he's ****, but he is definitely over-rated.

He doesn't score regularly enough to be classed as one of the best players in the world.

Even some people say he's better than Messi which is complete bollocks, i just don't see the big fuss made about him, is it cause compared to his strike partner Berbatov he's a footballing genius?

[King Gizzard]

**** for england, understandably cause of all the pressure and being absolutely shattered/not recovering properly from an injury, (and probably knew the papers were going to post this prostitute story)

Just look at his goal record...the guys a genius in the box

[seanraff07]

**** for england, understandably cause of all the pressure and being absolutely shattered/not recovering properly from an injury, (and probably knew the papers were going to post this prostitute story)

Just look at his goal record...the guys a genius in the box

If his injury was really that bad he could have refused to play, i know it's the World Cup so you don't want to miss that kind of opportunity but if it's denting your reputation to score goals that much then why would he want to play? He clearly wasn't enjoying it as proved at the end of the Algeria game LOL!

[alc09]

Even some people say he's better than Messi which is complete bollocks,
Agree....but he's still a class act.

[bbfan1991]

Gerrard Houllier set to be new Aston Villa manager:shocked:.

Wayne Rooney is getting back to his best, genius move by Capello putting him in the centre forward position however why can't he play Gerrard behind him which is what lots have been calling for.. he created the goals for Defoe and all round play is impressive IMO:).

[King Gizzard]

I'm warming to the Houllier appointment

Won things with Liverpool then suffered a heart problem and then turned to crap, but he looks good again and will keep our youth system strong and bring foreign flair that we need which MON was so hesitant to introduce

[bbfan1991]

I'm warming to the Houllier appointment

Won things with Liverpool then suffered a heart problem and then turned to crap, but he looks good again and will keep our youth system strong and bring foreign flair that we need which MON was so hesitant to introduce

These player revolt rumours might be nonsense, however I can see why the likes of Freidel and Warnock are worried after what happpened when they were at Anfield but the Villa squad is small and will need rotating;).

[30stone]

James Shea

Craig eastmond - Kyle Bartley - Thomas cruise -Gibbs




Walcott-Jack Wilshire - Mark Randall- Henri Lansbury

Sanchez Watt - Luke Freeman

With more players too like..
Gavin Hoyte
Daniel Boateng
Jay emmanuel Thomas

and more.


Who says Arsenal dont have english talent?

Give it 4 years and we will see..

[bbfan1991]

James Shea

Craig eastmond - Kyle Bartley - Thomas cruise -Gibbs




Walcott-Jack Wilshire - Mark Randall- Henri Lansbury

Sanchez Watt - Luke Freeman

With more players too like..
Gavin Hoyte
Daniel Boateng
Jay emmanuel Thomas

and more.


Who says Arsenal dont have english talent?

Give it 4 years and we will see..

Took long enough LOL:p.

[30stone]

2 players in the 1992 euro
To ****ty to qualify for 1994 world cup
3 players in the euro 1996
3 players in the world cup 1998
3 players in the euro 2000
4 Players in the World cup 2002
2 players in euro 2004
3 players in world cup 2006
England was too **** to qualify 2008.
2010 no players.. :(

We have had at least 2 players in the squad since ive been alive at the major tournaments.. And lets be honest, walcott should have been in the squad this year.

[30stone]

And

Theo
Gibbs
Wilshire


Will all be in the euro squad, providing we qualify.

[King Gizzard]

These player revolt rumours might be nonsense, however I can see why the likes of Freidel and Warnock are worried after what happpened when they were at Anfield but the Villa squad is small and will need rotating;).

There were just better players at Liverpool at the time, I don't see it being a problem

[30stone]

No idea why ray parlour only played for england for 2 years either..
making 12 appearances.

[bbfan1991]

There were just better players at Liverpool at the time, I don't see it being a problem

True, lets hope he knows what he is doing and it turns out to be a wise decision:).

[King Gizzard]

Hope its announced tommorow :)

[bbfan1991]

John Toshack quitting the Wales job.. Ryan Giggs to take over is a class suggestion:cool:, however would he take it up considering he is still enjoying playing?.

[bbfan1991]

Gerard Houllier is currently considering whether to take the vacant managerial position at Aston Villa.

Fiorentina goalkeeper Sebastien Frey was not approached over a deadline day move to Manchester City.

Cesc Fabregas has hinted that if it was down to him, he would have secured a switch to Barcelona this summer.

Shocked at how Southampton are doing in League 1 at the moment:(, not long into the season so not much of a big deal..

[30stone]

Gerard Houllier is currently considering whether to take the vacant managerial position at Aston Villa.

Fiorentina goalkeeper Sebastien Frey was not approached over a deadline day move to Manchester City.

Cesc Fabregas has hinted that if it was down to him, he would have secured a switch to Barcelona this summer.

Shocked at how Southampton are doing in League 1 at the moment:(, not long into the season so not much of a big deal..

We wanted frey but never made an official offer no idea why hes awesome.

[bbfan1991]

Hope for a win tonight and Rooney to do well of course:D:cool:.

[King Gizzard]

Great result

England!

[bbfan1991]

Great result

England!

Indeed!:), shame about Walcott's injury, hope it's not that bad.

[30stone]

****ing typical only Arsenal player and he gets injured.. fantastic.
Well thats most likely a month..


But another great great result !

[30stone]

Did we win 3 - 1?

[King Gizzard]

Thank God the international break is over though. gutted about Walcott but hopefully he ll be alright

All I can say is Villa bought the wrong left winger off Boro :(

[30stone]

Im still not a fan of johnson tho he did play well. i just dont like him.

Im really dissapointed about walcott if its only like 2 weeks then i think walcott could get between 15 and 20 in all comps if he continues as he is.

[30stone]

Argentina 4 - 1 spain :o!!


Wow.

Though spain played with only Pique, Ramos albiol and puyol all out.
No Casilias

No torres
No xavi until 60 mins.

[King Gizzard]

Reina has had a shocking start to the season

Once he made one gaff, hes made loads

[30stone]

Guess he made a fair few against Argentina then, though im sure the defence was to blame real make shift.

[30stone]

Lets hope.

Arsenal will make a double Ajax swoop to strengthen their defencein January if Wenger is not suitably impressed with how his back line and first choice keeper have faired by the mid season transfer window. The Emirates boss has a transfer warchest and is ready to spend big to bring in Dutch international keeper Maarten Stekelenburg and Belgian centre back Jan Vertonghen.

[bbfan1991]

Defoe is injured too, bet Arry is pissed off:p.

I've always liked Argentina, prefer them to Brazil anyday:blush:.

[_Seth]

http://www.tombraiderchronicles.com/images/legacy_art_46/screen4.jpg

[30stone]

Defoe is injured too, bet Arry is pissed off:p.

I've always liked Argentina, prefer them to Brazil anyday:blush:.

prefer argentina yes, but spain are much better..

[bbfan1991]

prefer argentina yes, but spain are much better..

Hobviously:). Spain have talent all over, most of the time spot on tactics and very organised.

[bbfan1991]

Phil Thompson won't be Gerard Houllier's assistant if he becomes Aston Villa manager:D.

[King Gizzard]

He's a tool anyway

Only one that ever sticks up for the Villa is good old Merse.

[bbfan1991]

He's a tool anyway

Only one that ever sticks up for the Villa is good old Merse.

Agreed love how Jeff disses him every time LOL.. Merse is class:D.

[30stone]

Our new signing, Squillaci looked awesome against blackburn reserves.

Skipped past 3 players played it to a forward player which lead to a goal.
Was great.

And


Koscielny said about blackburn..

I did OK. It was a special game, a proper English game with a lot of aerial balls, free kicks, lots of corners as well as balls on the floor. It’s always hard to play against teams like that but we showed our quality, it was a decent performance.

I was indeed told that this was a game that Arsenal could have lost so it was good to win the game. It wasn’t a brilliant performance like we produced at Liverpool where we played lots of very good football, this was more a case of matching Blackburn, keeping it tight and compact, attacking and defending as a team.

I think I could have got the ball when they scored and I think maybe I still had the red card against Liverpool on my mind. I didn’t start the game too well but I learn from games like this and looking back, I don’t think the performance was too bad.


Good to see him being honest.

[30stone]

Top 10 most hated PL players poll results

10. Kevin Davies – Although many can argue that Davies does perform his roll as a physical attacker well, grabbing a number of goals for Bolton that have made many suggest that the former Southampton striker should be part of Fabio Capello’s England side, his physicality at times borders on almost assault and has left many defenders feeling his presence at the end of a game, most notably former Middlesbrough defender Emnauel Pogatetz who endured a horrific tackle at the hands of Davies some seasons ago.

9. Emmanuel Adebayor – Following his move to Manchester City last season, Adebayor has become not only hated by many other clubs within the Premier League, the Togo striker has now become public enemy number one at the Emirates. His actions after his goal for City against former club Arsenal demonstrate the player’s arrogance and lack of respect for his former employers, underpinning why he is despised by many across the country.

8. Rio Ferdinand – Whether it’s his actions on the football pitch or his TV exploits in recent years, the Manchester United defender is a player who has never really been endeared by fans both for club and country. Missing a drugs test 2003 resulted in the player receiving a 8 month ban and while this player likes to keep in touch with his fans through his regular tweets, Ferdinand will have a hard time winning over those who have hated him from day one.

7. Gary Neville – Although Gary Neville has never particularly done anything to make himself hated, the Manchester United defenders perceived stupidity at times has made him a constant thorn in many fans sides. This view is further enhanced through the constant show of man love the player showed to long time friend David Beckham during their time together at Old Trafford and although Neville has been a good servant for United, it seems that it will only be fans of the Red Devils who will remember the former England internationals playing career with fondness.

6. Didier Drogba – When it comes to pure attacking talent, nobody can argue that Chelsea striker Didier Drogba is one of the best strikers to ever lace up his boots in the Premier League. However, the players outspoken and at times childish behaviour while on the field is very much an annoyance to everyone.

5. Craig Bellamy – Craig Bellamy is a player who is universally hated by all fans due to his actions over recent years which saw the player allegedly attack former team mate John Arne Riise with a golf club during his time at Liverpool. There’s no doubting that the Welsh international has a lot of talent with the ball at his feet, but maybe the now Cardiff striker needs to concentrate a little more on his game and less on his golf swing.

4. Ashley Cole – Ashley Cole is a player who once again has all the talent in the world on the football pitch but off the field the Chelsea defender seems to be one of the best when it comes to making the bad move time and time again. His recent divorce of Cheryl Tweedy after allegedly cheating on her, worked wonders in alienating a lot of people who follow Cheryl through her time on the X Factor. However, to some fans, Cole was on their black list a long time ago, particularly those at North London, when Cole’s outrageous wage demands resulted in the player leaving Arsenal for Stamford Bridge.

3. Joey Barton – Joey Barton is without question one of the most hated players to play football in England ever. His past actions have saw the player attack members of the public outside a MacDonalds, assaulting a 15 year old Everton fan and stubbing out a cigar in a youth players eye. These actions very much show why his is hated by many and no positive action on the football field is going to change this image.

2. El Hadji Diouf – While the Senegalese player has seemingly calmed down his behaviour now he is at Blackburn, the player’s antics and general hatred from the public comes from his time spent at Bolton and Liverpool. The biggest incidents which caused this outcry came with Diouf spitting at both Celtic and Middlesbrough fans as well as Portsmouth defender Arjan de Zeeuw, who took the incidence with professional and restraint, which I don’t think many other people would have been able to do!

These actions alone warrant Diouf’s place amongst the most hated and it took someone special to stop him from being at the top.

1. Cristiano Ronaldo – Well yeah you could have guessed before this poll even started that the number one would indeed be Cristiano Ronaldo. These is no question that Ronaldo is probably one of, if not the best, player to ever play in the Premier League. His technical brilliance and amazing goals are a joy to see for many fans across the country. However, this great skill is very much juxtaposed by an arrogance and at times down right cheating behaviour that has saw the Portuguese playmaker dive on numerous occasions, making his wonderful moments pale in significance as many fans remember his for his cheating attitude rather than his technical brilliance.

[30stone]

Arsenal's Brazilian whizkid Wellington targets first team after impressive stay ahead of £3.5m January move


Arsenal's new Brazilian starlet Wellington is dreaming of Premier League glory after spending a month with the Gunners ahead of his permanent move to North London in January.

Wellington, recently called up to the Brazil squad, is said to have impressed during his brief stay, and has revealed he sees first-team opportunities at the Emirates Stadium coming sooner rather than later.

The 17-year-old striker now returns to his Brazilian club but is due to complete a £3.5million move from Fluminense in the 2011 January transfer window - when he turns 18 - after a deal was struck earlier this year with Arsenal.

'The experience in London was perfect. I can now dream of playing in the Premier League and I don't think it will be hard for me to adapt,' Wellington said in The Mirror.

'Mr Wenger has spoken with me and has helped me with my work and training. I am really looking forward to this challenge. It's a great opportunity for me in my career.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1310073/Arsenals-Wellington-targets-team-impressive-stay-ahead-3-5m-January-move.html#ixzz0ywWzb58N

[30stone]

Benik Afobe

Chuks Aneke

Jay Emmanuel- Thomas

Wellington Da Silva


All are looking very impressive youngsters.

[bbfan1991]

:D I'll never forget Viva Ronaldo, running down the wing hear United sing Viva Ronaldo!.

I've always liked Squillaci Ben, seen him play in Ligue 1 matches before he moved to Sevilla.. bargain there and will improve the Gunners defence.

[30stone]

Yeah he looks very good.

Our youngsters are looking great to..

[King Gizzard]

Lol aparently Internazionale want Gary Gardner (18 year old Villa midfielder, brother of Craig)

[King Gizzard]

Balotelli is out injured for 6 weeks rofl

[bbfan1991]

John Toshack has, as expected, confirmed his resignation as Wales manager after six years in the job.

Fabio Capello to quit as England manager in 2012.

Jermain Defoe out for six weeks with an ankle injury.

LOL Nate not such a City slicker now is he:p.

[30stone]

Balotelli is an arrogant tool.


anywho


Theo walcott is out for 4 - 6 weeks.

Good news is.. Samir Nasri is back and could play this weekend! :)

[King Gizzard]

Lol!

manchester city's injured striker mario balotelli is flattered to hear of ac milan's interest, but the player's agent insists the italian is focused on becoming a success in the premier league.

The city frontman only joined the eastlands revolution last month after leaving the rossoneri's bitter rivals inter milan in a reported £24million deal.

But that has not stopped milan vice-president adriano galliani from expressing his desire to sign the fiery 20-year-old at some point in the future.

And balotelli, who was ruled out of action for six weeks with a knee injury on wednesday, admits galliani's comments sit well with him.

The self-confessed milan fan told sky italia: "i'm pleased for the words of galliani. I like ac milan, they are a strong team."
fantasy

balotelli's agent mino raiola, though, maintains his client will not contemplate a move back to serie a with his career at city so fresh.

He added: "balotelli to milan is only a fantasy that does not correspond to reality.

"the owner of manchester city is an important character and now would be wrong to think of the future.

"mario must keep a cool head and prove to be a big player in england, then after a few years we'll see.

"in the market you can never rule out anything, his move to milan, real madrid, juventus or a return to inter. But talking today about it is wrong."

[30stone]

The Top TEN Premier League Rogues

1. Joey Barton

Joey Barton has been one of England’s most controversial footballers in recent years, and the list of his misdemeanours is a long one indeed. When he began his career at Manchester City, he looked like a real talent, but that has gone to waste as his career was derailed by a number of unsavoury incidents. In December 2004 Barton stubbed out a cigar in the eye of Man City youth player James Tandy in a nightclub, for which he was fined six weeks wages. In May 2008 Barton was given a six month prison sentence for assaulting a man and a teenager in the same evening. Barton also assaulted team-mate Ousmane Dabo whilst at Man City, and was given a four month suspended sentence.

2. Tony Adams

Arsenal legend Tony Adams is now a rejuvanated character and is widely respected in the game, but during his playing career he had some serious issues. A one club man, Adams found himself in a battle with alcoholism in the early 90′s, in one incident in 1990 he crashed his car into a wall in Southend, after he was way over the drink-drive limit, and was jailed for four months. After his release Adams still suffered from alcoholism and let off fire extinguishers in a Pizza Hut with Ray Parlour after being taunted by rival fans. Adams has since turned his life around, and set up the Sporting Chance clinic to help other sports people deal with their problems.

3. Marlon King

Marlon King has played for a few player Premier League clubs but he is probably now best known for his 18 month prison sentence. Dating from 1997, King has 14 convictions for a range of different crimes, but his most notorious offence took place in December 2008. King on a night out in Soho, had his advances rejected by a 20 year old student and he was arrested on suspicion of punching her in the face, causing her a broken nose and a split lip. King was sentenced to 18 months imprisonment and had his contract cancelled by Wigan. King has since been released but has yet to find a new club.

4. Craig Bellamy

Craig Bellamy is another controversial figure with a host of nefarious incidents in his past. At Newcastle in 2005 Bellamy fell out with then manager Graeme Souness over selection issues and also sent abusive text messages to Alan Shearer, ending his career at St James’. In 2006 Bellamy was cleared of assaulting two women in a Cardiff nightclub, but his reputation was already sinking. In 2007 whilst playing for Liverpool, it was alleged that Bellamy had attacked John Arne Riise with a golf club and both players were fined for the incident. The Welshman is not all bad however, and in 2008 he set up a football academy in Sierra Leone in which he invested a significant amount of his own money.

5. Jermaine Pennant

The former Arsenal and Liverpool winger had looked like a star of the future, but his career stagnated and was also marred by off the field events. Whilst serving a 16 month driving ban for a previous offence, in 2005 Pennant crashed his car into a lamp-post after he had been drinking, he was sentenced to 90 days in jail but was released after 30, though he did have to wear an electronic tag when playing for Birmingham.


6. Lee Bowyer

Lee Bowyer was a fine player at Leeds United, but his career there was damaged in 2000 when he and Jonathan were alleged to have caused grievous bodily harm to a student. He was cleared and Woodgate was convicted of affray, Bowyer did however agree an out of court settlement of £170,000 with the individual in 2005. Whilst playing for Newcastle, Bowyer and Kieron Dyer had a fight in the middle of the game and had to be separated, ending the formers career with the Magpies.

7. Rio Ferdinand

One of the world’s best centre backs for the past five years, Rio Ferdinand has been no stranger to controversy. Ferdinand became Britain’s most expensive player when he signed for Man Utd in 2002 for a fee of £30 million. In 2003 though, his United career took a turn for the worse as he failed to attend a routine drugs test, and he was banned for eight months, missing Euro 2004. Since his ban, Ferdinand established himself as one of Europe’s top defenders.

8. Ashley Cole

For a number of years Ashley Cole has arguably been the nations most hated player, and this is down to two different factors. The first instance when Cole became unpopular was when he turned down an Arsenal contract of £55,000, saying in his autobiography that it was “taking the piss”, even though it was a weekly wage most of us can only dream of making in a year. Cole was already widely hated by football fans, and when it was revealed he had cheated on the nation’s media darling Cheryl Cole, he became one of the most reviled figures in England.

9. John Terry

The Chelsea captain was the subject of intense media scrutiny when it was revealed that he had had an affair with Wayne Bridge’s ex wife. At this point John Terry was England captain, but Fabio Capello deemed his misdemeanours as bad enough to justify his removal as captain, and Rio Ferdinand was given the armband in his place.

10. Wayne Rooney

Wayne Rooney has become the latest England international to be embroiled in a tabloid scandal, with the News of the World alledging that he cheated on wife Colleen on a number of occassions. Rooney was once seen as a loyal family man, yet his latest antics which he has not denied have ruined this image. His form for Manchester United and England has suffered since the World Cup, and he needs to put his personal problems aside before he is able to reach his full potential once again.

[30stone]

Arsene Wenger looks set to rely on the fitness of attack duo Carlos Vela and Marouane Chamakh as Arsenal come to terms with the diagnoses of ankle injuries sustained by both Theo Walcott and Robin van Persie.

Both the England winger and Dutch striker are expected to be sidelined until mid-October after picking up ligament damage in matches against Switzerland and Blackburn Rovers respectively. Walcott had started the season in blistering form for the Gunners scoring four goals in three appearances on the right side of an attacking trio. Joined by van Persie at Ewood Park, the World Cup star lasted less than half an hour before being replaced by new boy Chamakh.

Neither the Vela nor Chamakh have much experience of leading the line in the Premier League, but with Danish teammate Nicklas Bendtner also sidelined and with Eduardo da Silva having been sold to Ukrainian side Shakhtar Donetsk, they could well be thrust into action on a regular basis over the coming six weeks.

[King Gizzard]

Houllier press conference at 2pm tommorow - Sky Sports News has full coverage of it :)

Going to Fratton Park on Saturday to watch Ipswich with 9 of my mates. Should be a laugh

[bbfan1991]

Houllier press conference at 2pm tommorow - Sky Sports News has full coverage of it :)

Going to Fratton Park on Saturday to watch Ipswich with 9 of my mates. Should be a laugh

I reckon those who have doubts about Houllier will soon change their minds:p. However patience is key...

Hope you all have a fun time and you get the result that is needed:D,

[bbfan1991]

Sir Alex Ferguson has insisted there is no chance of Ryan Giggs being appointed the new Wales manager.

The Manchester United midfielder has been linked with the role that was this week vacated by John Toshack, having previously admitted that he would be interested in one day managing his country.

Giggs' playing career is drawing towards a close and reports had suggested he might be contacted about the possibility of combining his United duties with the Wales post until he hangs up his boots.

However, Ferguson has now moved quickly to rule out such a scenario after holding discussions with Giggs.

"I spoke to him. It will not happen," said the Red Devils manager. "It is impossible to do both."

Selfish
Ferguson hopes the 36-year-old will carry on playing for United until the end of the 2011/12 campaign and does not feel he can divide his attention between playing at the highest level and managing an international team.

"We have to be selfish here. I am not even prepared to negotiate on this matter," explained the Scot.

"At his age, Ryan needs to use all his energy and concentration to be here.

"It is a big season for him. It maybe his second last, it may be his last. We want it to be the second last.

"The best way for that to happen is for him to concentrate on being here."


:)

[King Gizzard]

http://www.avfc.co.uk/javaImages/e6/e3/0,,10265~9036774,00.jpg

[30stone]

Arsenal are reportedly tracking Serbian international defender Neven Subotic.

The 21-year-old centre back originally appeared on the radar in North London back in April, with Arsenal boss Arsene Wenger hoping to land the player before the World Cup.

Subotic showed his class during the tournament in South Africa, building on his reputation as one of the best young defenders in Europe alongside Nemanja Vidic.

A Bundesliga regular at Borussia Dortmund, Subotic joined the German side from Mainz 05 in 2008 and has since made 78 appearances in all competitions.

[30stone]

Arsene Wenger feels Sir Alex Ferguson has shown special qualities to chalk up 700 Premier League games in charge of Manchester United.

The 68-year-old Scot - who took charge at Old Trafford in 1986 - is set to reach the landmark in the match at Everton.

Wenger's relationship with his old adversary has mellowed somewhat in recent years, the pair having more than the odd bust-up when Arsenal and United battled for domestic supremacy.

The Frenchman - now in his 14th season with the Gunners - has someway to go to catch Ferguson, with 527 Premier League games to date, and paid tribute to the United manager.

'It is dedication and it is a fantastic achievement,' Wenger said. 'He deserves a lot of credit to show such consistency at the top level which needs special qualities and special dedication.

'That certainly means 700 sleepless nights before and 700 sleepless nights sometimes after the game.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1310883/Arsene-Wenger-pays-tribute-old-rival-Sir-Alex-Ferguson.html#ixzz0z9ACJqEX

[bbfan1991]

Arsene Wenger feels Sir Alex Ferguson has shown special qualities to chalk up 700 Premier League games in charge of Manchester United.

The 68-year-old Scot - who took charge at Old Trafford in 1986 - is set to reach the landmark in the match at Everton.

Wenger's relationship with his old adversary has mellowed somewhat in recent years, the pair having more than the odd bust-up when Arsenal and United battled for domestic supremacy.

The Frenchman - now in his 14th season with the Gunners - has someway to go to catch Ferguson, with 527 Premier League games to date, and paid tribute to the United manager.

'It is dedication and it is a fantastic achievement,' Wenger said. 'He deserves a lot of credit to show such consistency at the top level which needs special qualities and special dedication.

'That certainly means 700 sleepless nights before and 700 sleepless nights sometimes after the game.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1310883/Arsene-Wenger-pays-tribute-old-rival-Sir-Alex-Ferguson.html#ixzz0z9ACJqEX


Nice of him to say that:), meh once all the petty squabling about the game is over both of them are friends and are smart enough to socialise after.

[30stone]

Wenger and ferguson have been friendly for the last 2 - 3 season its good to see, they are the 2 most legendary managers in premier league history..

[30stone]

A host of Premier League clubs are hot on the tail of Spanish giants Real Madrid in the race for Borussia Dortmund’s talented young defender Neven Subotic.

The 21 year old was one of the stars of this summer’s World Cup after a number of impressive displays with Serbia, peaking the interest of a number of Europe’s top clubs. However, this strong showing in South Africa has meant that if any club is looking to secure the services of Subotic they can expect to pay in the region of £20 million for his signature.

The Serb joined Dortmund in 2008 and after a number of impressive performances for the German outfit, Subotic has become a rising star at the Westfalenstadion, resulting in the former Mainz 05 youngster penning a new deal to keep him at the club until 2014.

Subotic is a constant professional and while there is much speculation regarding his future, the youngster is looking to see out his current contract with Dortmund, until current speculation becomes something more concrete.








Ajax hierarchy have admitted that the club would be incapable of turning down a substantial January offer for talented full-back Gregory Van der Wiel. Manager Martin Jol is also worried that fellow star players Maarten Stekelenburg, Luis Suarez and Jan Vertonghen are also susceptible to big money offers from interested parties. The news will alert Premier League giants of Chelsea, Arsenal and Manchester United who have been tracking the Dutch clubs top stars for the last 18 months.

[30stone]

Arsenal are BACK, to the top of the premier league injury list.. lol!

[Rob]

Arsenal are BACK, to the top of the premier league injury list.. lol!

Nice to see you have time to chat about football, why don't you deal with some of the problems on this forum.

[30stone]

Maybe because im just looking through all the Arsenal news and not focued on tibb at all!
Im not looking through the forum, im looking at the premier league previews of the day.

So shh.

[Rob]

Maybe because im just looking through all the Arsenal news and not focued on tibb at all!
Im not looking through the forum, im looking at the premier league previews of the day.

So shh.

Then why the hell are you a mod, step down so somone who's not useless can actually do a half decent job.

[30stone]

Becuase the majority of the time i do it.

Its just now im only in this thread im not checking the rest of the forum, just like a mod being offline, how am i to know whats going on?

I consider that "somone who's not useless" an insult to, so consider that your warning.

[Smithy]

Oh dear lord :bored:

[30stone]

Evra completely messes up...


and puts arteta through..

Kicks it at VDS comes out to osman (i think ) he just taps it to pienaar who is 1 on one with keeper and kicks it under him.

Good goal from Everton 1 - 0 Man united

Pienaar is running gary neville off the pitch.

[30stone]

1 - 1

Fletcher.

Nani crosses in the perfect ball fletcher doesnt have to do much.


Would be happy for everton to get at least a draw.

[30stone]

Vidic 2 - 1
united now leading


Pretty annoying..

Come on Everton!
Michalle wont be happy.

[30stone]

3 - 1 United

Berbatov.

[30stone]

Have a weird feeling we may not win today..
May not lose but we need the 3 points.



No Sagna
No Vermaelen
No Clichy
Diaby doesnt start.. (wilshire does ? ) I know hes good but We need diaby our big physical player against bolton.


-----------Almunia-----------

Eboue-Kosielnchy-Squilaci-Gibbs

---Song--Fabregas--Wilshire

Rosicky---Chamakh---Arshavin


Subs:

Fabianski
Diaby
Sagna
Nasri
Vela
Denilson
Clichy

Thats a very strong bench though..

[30stone]

3min of Stoppage time left and

Cahill scored

Everton 2 - 3 United.

Last few minutes will be good..

[30stone]

Goallll!!!!!!!!!


Arteta!!!


3 - 3!!

[Rob]

Spurs v WBA, shouldn't be a hard one.

[30stone]

took Defoe out because of injury, put andy caroll in my fantasy team..

So glad i kept Cahill in my team, though evra lost me points -.-


Arsenal bolton will be good as its a physical team vs a flair team.

[MTVN]

Oh dear Robert Green :sad:

[Rob]

20 minutes in, Chance for Spurs around 5 mins in but in typical spurs fashion it got messed up!

[30stone]

KOSCIELNY !

Goal after 24 mins.


Bolton were not letting anything through, but good play from Fabregas and Wilshire led to the goal :)

Great, got my Arsenal top on :)

[Omen]

Bobby Zamora breaks ankle.

[30stone]

Chelsea 2 up already lol bossing.


Blackburn scoring against city! Great news.

[30stone]

20 minutes in, Chance for Spurs around 5 mins in but in typical spurs fashion it got messed up!

Modric goal 1 - 0

[30stone]

Robert Green england career truly early.

[30stone]

Rosicky great shot but good save.


Then Arshavin side netting..

[30stone]

Put andy caroll in thinking he will score and hes done nothing.

[30stone]

West brom score!!!!

[30stone]

Elmander scores

Bolton 1 - 1 Arsenal


*****!

[30stone]

Arshavin has had 3 good chances wasted them all typical...

[30stone]

1 - 1 at half time not good.

If we score one more i think we could happily get two..

[Omen]

Fulham will miss Zamora - could be out for the season.

[30stone]

Put Caroll in fantasy team, and they are losing to blackpool!?!
Zamora injury is not good.

Arsenal need to pressure bolton more, bring on diaby for wilshire, get clichy on, gibbs is struggling a little..

Adds a bit of mucle to the side.

[30stone]

Fabregas Creates it amazing!


Chamakh goal

2 - 1 Arsenal

[30stone]

Great move Diaby is on for Wilshire got a bit of muscle with Diaby and song in the middle.

[30stone]

Gary cahill sent off for a apparently only yellow card offence..
Double footed slide on chamakh.



Diaby header slides along the top of the net..

Robinson hacks down eboue and everyone complaining as no foul given..

Arsenal attacking now, bolton down to 10 men, and Arsenal piling the pressure aiming to put this away..

[30stone]

Lee gets a header Almunia saves as it was going in..

[30stone]

Diaby injured most likely some bolton hack taking him out.


Denilson is on for diaby.


I think either Clichy or Nasri will come on..

[30stone]

Arsenal very wasteful


Arshavin possibly 4 good chances.
Chamakh 2
Rosicky 2

could be 6 - 1 by now.

[30stone]

Alex song goal

3- 1 Arsenal

Put to bed well done Arsenal.

[30stone]

Vela comes on and scores !!!

4 - 1


I forgot to do my predictions Bummer!

[30stone]

Vela shows hes one of the most quality youngsters around again, scoring 3 minutes of being on the pitch...

[30stone]

eboue drops in the box was a foul for sure.



Arsenal piling on the presure now, but bolton still fighting, admirable.


5 minutes added time,3 minutes in.

[30stone]

Full Time Results


Everton 3 - 3 Man united
Arsenal 4 - 1 Bolton
Fulham 2 - 1 Wolves
Man City 1 - 1 Blackburn
Newcastle 0 - 2 Blackpool (so much for putting carol in my fantasy team)
West brom 1 - 1 Spurs
West ham 1 - 3 Chelsea
Wigan 1 - 1 Sunderland


Tottenham
Man City
Man United

All drawing good times :)



Reading win 3 - 0 aswell
Putting them 7th :)

2 penalties though lol.

[bbfan1991]

3-3, what a drama filled game for both Everton and Man United:p, disappointed we lost the 2 goal lead against the Toffees but it's a hard game and they always play well against us.. fair play they completely dominated most of the first half, we were better second half but they took their chances and it worked.

Oh and Andy Gray is a total tool:).

[alc09]

bbfan1991, may I ask where you are from?

[bbfan1991]

bbfan1991, may I ask where you are from?

Why?;).

[alc09]

Why?;).
You refer to United as 'us' and 'we' but I have a feeling you live miles away.

[bbfan1991]

You refer to United as 'us' and 'we' but I have a feeling you live miles away.

I live in the West Midlands:).. when I say us and we I mean it in the context for United as a team, players and fans.

[Chels]

Ah I met the whole team today. My Dad was talking to Bellamy :( and my brother had a photo with him and I had to take it :bawling: gutted. And my brother and his mates had a photo with Chris Burke by his lush car LOL

[alc09]

Southampton are a dirty bunch of ****ers, beat them for the 4th time since last August (and second time in 2 weeks), they haven't scored against us in any of those games.

Thanks to their keeper we are without the best striker in League 1 for quite a while. Luckily he had done the business before he was stretchered off. Scored against Saints every time he has played against them now.

[alc09]

I live in the West Midlands:).. when I say us and we I mean it in the context for United as a team, players and fans.
Yes, but I don't get why you refer to them as 'we' and 'us' when you have no real connection to the club.

[Chels]

Southampton are a dirty bunch of ****ers, beat them for the 4th time since last August (and second time in 2 weeks), they haven't scored against us in any of those games.

Thanks to their keeper we are without the best striker in League 1 for quite a while. Luckily he had done the business before he was stretchered off. Scored against Saints every time he has played against them now.

Who got taken out? I don't like S'ton either their entire fanbase is full of wankers.

[alc09]

Who got taken out? I don't like S'ton either their entire fanbase is full of wankers.
Charlie Austin was stretchered off after being clattered by Kelvin Davis. Discolated shoulder.

Then in the last minute (this picture doesn't show how bad it was).....

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/javaImages/eb/ec/0,,10341~9039083,00.jpg

he's lucky both legs are still intact - it was a horrible challenge, the ball didnt seem to move at all, he just went straight over the top. It was full of frustrated malice and nothing much else in the last second of the game. What a *****. An inept ref had his red card out but was talked out of it by their players and showed a yellow.

[Chels]

http://i56.tinypic.com/rtfcys.jpg
Ma bruva pitchside with Drinkwater

http://i53.tinypic.com/15nkodv.jpg
With Bellars (I was made to take the photo :()

http://i51.tinypic.com/1zlxa4m.jpg
Bellamy's car

http://i53.tinypic.com/fwm9ec.jpg
Umg it's kid city. I suddenly find Burke attractive now he's cut his hair :3

[Chels]

I have no idea why the car one is bigger than the rest D:

[alc09]

Is that Nobby Solano in the first picture? :joker:

[seanraff07]

Nice pics Chels! And a good result for yous today.

Hull have really went downhill since being relegated, i still think sacking Phil Brown was a mistake.

[Chels]

Charlie Austin was stretchered off after being clattered by Kelvin Davis. Discolated shoulder.

Then in the last minute (this picture doesn't show how bad it was).....

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/javaImages/eb/ec/0,,10341~9039083,00.jpg

he's lucky both legs are still intact - it was a horrible challenge, the ball didnt seem to move at all, he just went straight over the top. It was full of frustrated malice and nothing much else in the last second of the game. What a *****. An inept ref had his red card out but was talked out of it by their players and showed a yellow.

Oh jesus D: I hope he's alright, and I hate how refs pussy out of things cos of players talking him out of it! Really winds me up.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs383.snc4/44573_1472017573686_1631064045_1183319_1569294_n.j pg

This happend to Chopra 3 weeks ago at home to Donny, it didn't look that bad but you see this photo and it's a fcking disgusting challenge, and Chops is out for 8 weeks now and our only fit striker left is Keogh.

[Chels]

Is that Nobby Solano in the first picture? :joker:

LMFAO I didn't notice until you pointed it out :joker:

[Chels]

Nice pics Chels! And a good result for yous today.

Hull have really went downhill since being relegated, i still think sacking Phil Brown was a mistake.

Cheers :)

Yeah they really have lost it haven't they, their defending was diabolical today and we really could have won it by a few more goals :3 that's probably cos they signed Gerrard though LOL

[seanraff07]

Cheers :)

Yeah they really have lost it haven't they, their defending was diabolical today and we really could have won it by a few more goals :3 that's probably cos they signed Gerrard though LOL

I think yous will get automatic promotion along with QPR.

One thing in the Championship that has really came to my attention though is how bad Middlesborough are LOL.. it's brilliant..

1. My English team is Newcastle so i don't particularly like them.
2. Their team is just full of SPL rejects who have been taken from the Old Firm, seriously do they not have scouts who travel outwith Britian?
3. I'm a Hibs fan, Kevin Thomson used to play for us then in the lead up to his move to Rangers he made statements like "I would walk barefooted along the M8 to sign for Rangers". Showing a lot of disrespect to us who brought him up as a youngster, so yeah he's pretty hated around here so whoever he plays for i usually hope results go against them, and they are 20th.:laugh2:

[bbfan1991]

Middlesborough really aren't doing as well as predicted:shocked::spin:.

[DDRickyDD]

My opinion on today's games.

Everton 3 - 3 Man United

Good to see that the team I used to support have dropped points by conceading two gaols in the stoppage time and could have apparently lost the game in the last seconds.

Arsenal 4 - 1 Bolton

Really expected better from Arsenal. They were struggling until Cahil was sent off.

Fulham 2 - 1 Wolves

Dirty play from Wolves.

Man City 1 - 1 Blackburn

Poor from Man City. They really need to beat these teams if they are going to challenge for the title.

Newcastle 0 - 2 Blackpool

The lucky Blackpool march on. Don't worry it will come to end soon and they will sink down the table.

West brom 1 - 1 Spurs

Poor from Tottenham.

West ham 1 - 3 Chelsea

Fantastic victory. We have made a brilliant start and I personally think we can win the quadruple this season.

Wigan 1 - 1 Sunderland

Who cares?

Burnley 4-3 Preston

Unbelievable game. The only thing that ruined it was the dreadful referee.

Cardiff 2-0 Hull

Good win for Cardiff but I wouldn't be getting too excited if I was a Cardiff fan. There is a long time to go and I personally can't see them getting into the Play-Off's.

I really hope Southampton get promoted, they don't deserve to be League One. I hope they can promotion to the Championship then to the Premier League. they were a great Premiership club and St Mary's is a wonderful stadium.

[30stone]

Arsenal 4 - 1 Bolton

Really expected better from Arsenal. They were struggling until Cahil was sent off.


We bossed the game completely we had 4 - 6 very good shots on target in the first 30 minutes.
We were winning 2 - 1 when cahill got sent off, but we were already in control.

A weakened side and we still dominated.
Fabregas is back to his best some real vision.
Carlos Vela is also an excellent player and i think it will be good for him to start playing regularly with Bendtner and RVP out.

And Rosicky is like having a new 10m signing.

[seanraff07]

My opinion on today's games.

Everton 3 - 3 Man United

Good to see that the team I used to support have dropped points by conceading two gaols in the stoppage time and could have apparently lost the game in the last seconds.

Arsenal 4 - 1 Bolton

Really expected better from Arsenal. They were struggling until Cahil was sent off.

Fulham 2 - 1 Wolves

Dirty play from Wolves.

Man City 1 - 1 Blackburn

Poor from Man City. They really need to beat these teams if they are going to challenge for the title.

Newcastle 0 - 2 Blackpool

The lucky Blackpool march on. Don't worry it will come to end soon and they will sink down the table.

West brom 1 - 1 Spurs

Poor from Tottenham.

West ham 1 - 3 Chelsea

Fantastic victory. We have made a brilliant start and I personally think we can win the quadruple this season.

Wigan 1 - 1 Sunderland

Who cares?

Burnley 4-3 Preston

Unbelievable game. The only thing that ruined it was the dreadful referee.

Cardiff 2-0 Hull

Good win for Cardiff but I wouldn't be getting too excited if I was a Cardiff fan. There is a long time to go and I personally can't see them getting into the Play-Off's.

I really hope Southampton get promoted, they don't deserve to be League One. I hope they can promotion to the Championship then to the Premier League. they were a great Premiership club and St Mary's is a wonderful stadium.

You used to support Man.Utd but yoiu support Chelsea now, you ain't half a glory hunter lol!

[30stone]

Being a bit of sad bastard I watched the whole game again on ArsenalTV online this morning. I thought I'd review my opinion of the referee's performance and the team in the cold light of day. Stuart Attwell was the referee and I think he brought a lot of the trouble on himself with some poor inconsistent decisions making, although he was certainly not helped at all by his linesmen who were about as useful as stuffed marrows at times.

The game certainly didn't start off as a niggly one. The problem was that the overly physical and aggressive tackles were encouraged by the referee's failure to adequately deal with what went on in the first half. Elmander was slightly fortunate to avoid the book for sliding in late on Cesc early doors, Steinsson was also rather late on Gibbs. Rosicky was nailed late by the sliding Davies on the 15 minute mark, again no card. The first yellow then came for an appalling late lunge on Wilshere by Davies, he could easily have been sent off by now and only 18 minutes had elapsed.

Arshavin should then have had a penalty, Steinsson took his legs before getting the slightest of touches on the ball, the referee was well positioned by choked. The thuggish Robinson then got away with another overly aggressive tackle, this time on Cesc, anyone who knows the game could recognise the deliberate violence in this kind of tackle, the linesman who was a few yards away saw nothing wrong. Kieran Gibbs was then given a yellow card for a tackle which in isolation was a yellow card, however if the referee was to be consistent then he should have booked at least five Bolton players by this point. Again the inconsistency of the officiating was staggering, both teams had one yellow but the nasty fouls had virtually all been committed by the one side.

The first half still wasn't over. Muamba astonishingly got away without a card when he slid in dangerously with his studs up through Cesc Fabregas, for some strange reason the referee felt a talking to was enough. Several Bolton players were protesting to the referee, including Cahill who had run a significant distance to have his 'say'. Cahill also had time to chop through the back of Chamakh when nowhere near the ball. So although there wasn't massive controversy in the first half, if one looks back it is easy to see where and when the referee began to lose control of this game. One has to be consistent and firm to keep control, and the referee clearly didn't do this.

The second half saw the indiscipline spill over, the referee's laxity meant that Bolton thought they could continue to get away with murder. Steinsson was carded early on for a cynical foul when Wilshere was breaking dangerously. Shortly after we had scored to make it 2-1 Davies was very lucky not to be sent off, he went in very hard and late on Koscielny with his head, it did appear that Davies knew very much what he was doing. The ref appeared to bottle this decision, the tension was building here because of the referee's lack of consistency, Arsenal players were getting frustrated as a result of the lack of protection and Eboue was booked for saying something along these lines.

The big moment came with the Cahill red. Bolton claim Lee was fouled in the build up, I disagree, Song did very little and Lee went down very very easily. Arshavin broke, he had to hurdle a reckless lunge from Holden and played a one two with Chamakh, well after Chamakh had given the ball back to Arshavin, Cahill went through the back of Chamakh in a rather nasty two footed manner. It was a clear red card offence and the referee got this correct, there was not intent to play the ball and he went through with both legs straight in a manner designed to maim. Bolton surrounded the referee, who had to back off, Knight, Cahill, Robinson and Davies were all involved.

Control had gone out of the window. Next came the worst tackle of the game. Diaby was played through in the inside right position, Robinson could only beat him to the ball by sliding in recklessly with a straight leg over the top of the ball with his studs up (see above image from Arseblogger). Robinson's straight leg nailed Diaby in his mid shin area and he had to limp off shortly afterwards. This was an appalling tackle, a definite straight red card, and the referee didn't even give a free kick, he was poorly positioned and his linesman gave him no help at all. Maybe there is a case for asking the FA to review this one, Robinson is a particularly nasty player as we have seen in the past, he goes into tackles in a way that will reliably injure. After the third goal the aggression faded as Bolton knew they were dead and buried, although there was still time for Attwell to miss a clear penalty as Muamba chopped down Eboue from behind in the box.

It is always easy to analyse these things in retrospect and Stuart Attwell is only one of many referees who clearly lack a sufficient understanding of the game to be able to control it. However it is clear from reviewing the game that if discipline had been enforced more robustly from the off then we may well have had a much cleaner game and Abou Diaby may well have not been injured.

I listened to a bit of Radio 5 on the way home from the game yesterday and if ever there was a man who sums up what is wrong with the English game then it is Robbie Savage. He openly talked of how Mark Hughes had ordered his teams to deliberately aggressively foul superior opponents, he claimed that young players should be taught to pull shirts and trip opponents. Savage's game, minimal skill and technical ability combined with his persistent cheating and fouling, is a case study in what our inadequate refereeing allows to flourish in the English game. It is only a matter of time before another one of our players gets another shocking injury as a result of this, I just find it hard to understand how so many in our media and within the game can condone this kind of 'football'?



Read it if your interested, all the dangerous tackles bolton got away with.. if it was that twat mike riley no doubt bolton would have been down to like 9 men or less.

[30stone]

Fabregas now crossed it efficiently and Chamakh hung in the air, looked around, tucked in his shirt, slicked back his punk haircut and then just when everyone thought the moment had passed headed the ball in. Boy that guy can head them.

The bleating starts - not the turning point

There it was at 60 minutes the turning point. But I was wrong, when I watched match of the day I discovered the turning point was the sending off of Cahill on 64 minutes. Apparently if Cahill had not been sent off Bolton would have overcome Arsenal and won the game. Arsenal's 17 shots to Bolton's four counted for nothing, it was Bolton that were about to win.

The game remained scrappy mainly due to the poor refereeing, and Arsenal had worked hard to get to 2-1. Then on 78 minutes Song scored from an almost impossible angle. Three-one, and suddenly the sun shone on what had been a tedious match. This was Arsenal's 1,000 Premiership goal under Wenger and it was about to get better. The announcer had lost count because he left this milestone unremarked.


LOL!

[alc09]

I really hope Southampton get promoted, they don't deserve to be League One. I hope they can promotion to the Championship then to the Premier League. they were a great Premiership club and St Mary's is a wonderful stadium.
Eh?

Of course they do, it was their **** performances that relegated them in the first place. No club has a divine right to get out of the league, Leeds fans will tell you the same.

Stop talking out of your arse.

[alc09]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs383.snc4/44573_1472017573686_1631064045_1183319_1569294_n.j pg

This happend to Chopra 3 weeks ago at home to Donny, it didn't look that bad but you see this photo and it's a fcking disgusting challenge, and Chops is out for 8 weeks now and our only fit striker left is Keogh.
Awful challenge.

Keogh isn't bad, but you still have Bellamy?

[seanraff07]

Not that it would have changed how the game panned out in the end if he stayed on but i don't think Cahill's challenge was worthy of a sending off.

[bbfan1991]

Southampton not doing well either:(.

[Locke.]

Reina is such a legend

[bbfan1991]

Birmingham still unbeaten:p.

[Rob]

disappointed with spurs yesterday/

[30stone]

Im glad spurs drew, but even happier man city drew. at home..

Adam johnson is greedy and overated.

[bbfan1991]

Barcelona lost 2-0 to Herucles yesterday:shocked:. I so hope Real Madrid don't win La Liga this year:nono:.

[30stone]

Barcelona lost 2-0 to Herucles yesterday:shocked:. I so hope Real Madrid don't win La Liga this year:nono:.

They just came up this season lol!

Though i would prefer barca to real.. dont really like murinho.

Funny though..


Arsenal Manager Arsene Wenger Questions Jose Mourinho's Inter Champions League Triumph
Gunners boss says Inter were lucky to win competition last year...


Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger has blasted Jose Mourinho ahead of the start of the Champions League group stages on Tuesday.

Mourinho was in charge of Italian side Inter as he guided them to the competition's final where they beat German side Bayern Munich to lift the trophy.

Wenger and Mourinho have a history of rivalry from the current Real Madrid coach's time at Chelsea, and the Arsenal boss believes that the 'Special One' was lucky to win the Champions League last season.

He feels that the Nerazzurri benefited from favourable decisions made by some referees throughout the competition, especially with the two decisions in the last 16 clash with Chelsea that went the way of Mourinho's side.

“Look at the teams who got to last year's final," Wenger told the Daily Mail.

“With normal refereeing neither of them would have been there. No Bayern, and no Inter.”


LOL!

So good, as Jose was insulting Arsenal before the season started saying we would do nothing this season, and we will struggle to be in europe next year..

[DDRickyDD]

Eh?

Of course they do, it was their **** performances that relegated them in the first place. No club has a divine right to get out of the league, Leeds fans will tell you the same.

Stop talking out of your arse.

Southampton have a wonderful ground with fantastic fans. They are only in League One because of the poor ownership and management which isn't the fans fault at all. Your correct, no club has a divine right but I would prefer the bigger clubs of English football to be in the Permier League other than smaller clubs such as Wigan who can't fill their stadium.

[30stone]

Just so everyone can see that it was most definately an extremely bad challenge on diaby, and bolton players did just try to kick us..


Why would you aim that high?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_3GSTyDRMJNY/TIzbVqXt61I/AAAAAAAAA2Y/vntuX7nV1jk/s1600/diabyrobinson.htm

[Novo]

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[30stone]

Anything with wenger in is good. look at what he said about the cahill challenge on Chamakh..

Arsene Wenger got into character beautifully too, in response to Cahill’s red card: “... it was a dark orange, maybe a light red.” Wenger is at his most likeable when he comes out with such glowing one-liners and it gave the feeling that things simply went according to plan this weekend.

[30stone]

The reason Arsenal get injured... Rosicky jumped in and headbutted Eboue whilst trying to celebrate with Vela..
http://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/arsenal-injury.jpg