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[alc09]

I didn't realisle quite how bad Chamakh is untill yesterdays game - what an awful, awful player.

Would do a job for a lower league side I expect but never for a side wanting to go places.

[bbfan1991]

Utd got West Brom in two weeks, tricky match against a team in confidence:).

I can see the Championship being much tighter this year...

[30stone]

I didn't realisle quite how bad Chamakh is untill yesterdays game - what an awful, awful player.

Would do a job for a lower league side I expect but never for a side wanting to go places.

You mad, hes been excellent this season so far.

Okay he didnt play well against chelsea particularly..

But he holds the ball up well reads the play well, and getting him for free, amazing signing..

[setanta]

Kevin Davies has won an England call up.

[30stone]

Fair play to him.

Though its likely Bent Rooney and Crouch will all play ahead of him id love to see him get his chance.

[bbfan1991]

Really pleased about Kevin Davies finally getting a call up:hugesmile:.

Real Madrid are in the mood this season, Mourinho's clever tactics have given them a kick up the backside but I hope they don't win La Liga:bawling:.

[Mystic Mock]

i think birmingham are gonna get relegated.:bawling:

[30stone]

No way, too much class in the birmingham team.
Especially the 2 new additions, Hleb and Zigic..

[Mystic Mock]

No way, too much class in the birmingham team.
Especially the 2 new additions, Hleb and Zigic..

zigic dont seem like his doing much though.

[30stone]

Nor has Hernandez for united some players take longer than others to adapt.

He scored the winning goal in a game didnt he?

[King Gizzard]

Class and Birmingham City? Really?

[Locke.]

Birmingham will stay up and probably finish around 9th... They're only about 4 points off a champions league spot.

[30stone]

Class and Birmingham City? Really?

Blackpool
Wolves
West brom
Stoke

to name a few..

Newcastle maybe, bolton maybe.


Just because you dont like them lol :spin:

[bbfan1991]

Birmingham won't go down:), i'm really hoping West Brom keep up their good form because I do have a better feeling about this season, I don't mind Stoke either..

Dislike Wolves but enjoy having 4 Midlands teams in the Premier League:D.

[setanta]

Blackpool
Wolves
West brom
Stoke

to name a few..

Newcastle maybe, bolton maybe.


Just because you dont like them lol :spin:

Nah, I don't think Newcastle or Bolton will go down. They've looked good over the last few weeks.

[30stone]

Ohh i dont either, but i believe Birmingham have more class in their team..

[30stone]

Birmingham won't go down:), i'm really hoping West Brom keep up their good form because I do have a better feeling about this season, I don't mind Stoke either..

Dislike Wolves but enjoy having 4 Midlands teams in the Premier League:D.

I used to like west brom hate them now.. lol.

[DDRickyDD]

Blackpool, Wigan and either West Ham, West Brom or Wolves (Probably Wolves) will go down imo.

[Locke.]

Wigan, Wolves and either Blackpool or West Brom will go down.

West Ham will find their form soon and finish about 12th, they've got a pretty decent squad.

[King Gizzard]

I wish stoke and blackburn would go down

[MissKittyFantastico]

Think:

Blackpool
West Ham
Wigan

Want:

Stoke
Wolves
Blackburn

My three most disliked teams besides Man ****ty.

[King Gizzard]

Forgot about horrible wolves

[bbfan1991]

John Carew is yet to make a decision on what the future will hold for him after the 2010/11 campaign.

[bbfan1991]

I think Wigan and West Ham are at risk this season;)..

[30stone]

Wolves
Blackburn and Stoke.

I like blackburn i just hate the ****ing fat wanker of a manager..

[bbfan1991]

I really can't be doing with the International break:nono::(.

[Mystic Mock]

I really can't be doing with the International break:nono::(.

i hate watching the england games as there boring as ****.

[alc09]

You mad, hes been excellent this season so far.

Okay he didnt play well against chelsea particularly..

But he holds the ball up well reads the play well, and getting him for free, amazing signing..
Donkey. Simple as that.

As I said, he would be ok for a lower league side but not for a team chasing trophies.

[alc09]

Reina
Gerrard
J.Cole
Torres
Jovanovic
Meireles
Kuyt
Maxi..


They have too much for blackpool, they should still be winning that game at home..
Torres and Gerrard are the only two players of real quality in that Liverpool side, and Torres is out of sorts.

Of course they should be beating Blackpool, but they really haven't got many decent players beyond the two mentioned.

The Joe Cole arse licking annoys me, seeing as he has been out of form for the last couple of seasons. The rest you mentioned are average. I will reserve judgement on Meireles.

[alc09]

Sorry but that's rubbish. They should be pummeling teams like Blackpool with the team they've got, especially at Anfield.

Shocking result for them whatever way you look at it.
Of course it's a shocking result, but I said their form isn't surprising. Torres is out of sorts and they hugely rely on him and Gerrard - take those two out of the side and it's mid table fodder.

[Locke.]

Meireles has played about 120 minutes of football all season and has already been our second best player.

Poulsen is absolutely ****e, can't believe we gave Juve Aquilani for a season and paid to take Poulsen off them, they should have been paying us. If Aquilani stays there then that's gotta be the worst piece of business since.... well, when we gave Fulham money + 2 of our good youngsters for Konchesky.

[Locke.]

Oh great, now it looks like we'll be getting a 9 point deduction. Think they should wait for us to actually get some points before they take them off us.

[James]

Scotland playing a 4-6-0 formation against the Czech Republic. :confused:

[King Gizzard]

What Channels scotland on?

[James]

It's on BBC1 in Scotland. You might be able to watch on Sky channel 971?

[James]

Live video here also - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/9075513.stm

[King Gizzard]

oh yea, its called 'sportszone' for some reason I went past it but thought it was just something else

[James]

Ah yeah, Sportscene. That's what the football show is called up here.

Think we can safely say Scotland are playing for a point here. :p

[James]

Well we can't say that wasn't coming. 1 - 0 to Czech Republic.

[Lee.]

Well we can't say that wasn't coming. 1 - 0 to Czech Republic.

Bollocks! You're joking?! How long to go?

[King Gizzard]

Get in you Czecs

[King Gizzard]

N.Ireland are oddly good at Internationals ;s

[Mark]

This is why you should play Keiran Westwood in goal.

Guy is a beast :)

[setanta]

Don't let the 2-3 scoreline fool you - we were rubbish.

[Novo]

Iceman you have an Xbox don't you? have you got any of those 48 hour trail things knocking about any where?

[setanta]

Yep, Tuesday and I'll throw something at the screen if Green's starting again.

[DDRickyDD]

Republic of Ireland did well to get back back to 3-2 and should have had a penalty in the last minute. Northern Ireland should have had two penalties for handball and had a great chance to score when the referee blew for a Free Kick for some reason. Italy never really troubled Taylor. Scotland lost to Czech Republic 1-0. And the weakest team in England's group, Wales lost to Bulgaria.

[Locke.]

When do England play Wales?

That'll be fun on here....

[DDRickyDD]

When do England play Wales?

That'll be fun on here....

March. I think England will win 5-0.

[30stone]

Aaron Ramsey will be back to play that game :)

Green wont start no chance, Hart is on awesome form club and country, he will be number one for the next 10 years most likely.

[alc09]

Scotland are an absolute joke, disgusting tactics last night.

Laughing stock.

Worse than the Welsh.

[alc09]

Sky Sports tomorrow night, Swindon V Bristol Rovers. Will be an interesting evening.

Hopefully Rovers fans will leave the families alone this time and not ambush them with baseball bats and planks of wood like 3 years ago.

[King Gizzard]

The International break totally kills my enthuiasm for football.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Today's the big day for Liverpool then!

Any news on whether Torres is going to be fit for the derby on Sunday?

Jags is out for up to 6 weeks for us :( Not sure on Pienaar, but Saha is likely to be fit.

6 days - I can't wait! Should be a really good game whatever the result.

[King Gizzard]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/28/article-0-04256B2E000005DC-121_306x525.jpg

The English Messi

[MissKittyFantastico]

Starting 11 for tonight's match....

1 Joe Hart, 2 Glen Johnson, 3 Ashley Cole, 4 Steven Gerrard, 5 Rio Ferdinand, 6 Joleon Lescott, 7 Ashley Young, 8 Gareth Barry, 9 Peter Crouch, 10 Wayne Rooney, 11 Adam Johnson

Ferdinand is captain, should have stuck with Gerard imo.

Rio is lucky to even have a place in the team, would have been Jags had he not picked up an injury :(

[MissKittyFantastico]

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/03/28/article-0-04256B2E000005DC-121_306x525.jpg

The English Messi

Get that 'fan spitting at mess' out of here :nono:

[King Gizzard]

No
Forgive and forget

Theres no evidence that it happened anyway lol

[King Gizzard]

Everybody was kung fu fighting

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/09/19/article-1313475-0B403CE1000005DC-501_468x329.jpg

[MissKittyFantastico]

There is evidence, I was there and I saw it with my own eyes :nono:

Spat right at a group of our supporters, dirty little jebend.

[MissKittyFantastico]

And this is an argument about spitting not kung fu :p

Felli has calmed down a lot this season anyway, people keep trying to wind him up.

[King Gizzard]

Leave poor Ash alone

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2343/2105184115_08434cc223.jpg

[MissKittyFantastico]

He'll be playing for Liverpool after January, then I'll have even more reason to hate him :)

[Smithy]

Ohhhhhh England!!!

[MissKittyFantastico]

That's what I like to see Smithy!!

[King Gizzard]

Vucinic is out lol!!!

He's just about there only good player

[MissKittyFantastico]

I changed it Eoin, thought it would be easier than making a whole new thread :)

[setanta]

Ireland have been playing well Eoin, but Keane missed a sitter and then a penalty at the stroke of half time. He's a headwrecker sometimes.

[setanta]

The only thing that Keane did this half was miss.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Another poor performance from England.

Why he brought on SWP and Davies I don't know, what about Downing or Defoe or even Wilshere?

Johnson remains a liability at the back, Rooney is ****.....half of them looked like they didn't even really want to be there imo. Shocking.

Capello needs to **** off.

[Locke.]

Gerrard and Johnson have more important things to be doing than playing for England, what is Capello doing wasting their time

[MissKittyFantastico]

What was the england score?

0-0

[King Gizzard]

Finally no more crappy international breaks for ages

[setanta]

1 point out of a possible (and not that hard to get) 6......whats the table stand at now?

Russia won 1-0 but Macedonia missed a pen. That means they're on 9 pts while the rest of us are on 7. Keane's misses are going to cost us.

[DDRickyDD]

There is a program at 3AM on ESPN Classic about the Everton-Liverpool rivalry.

[MissKittyFantastico]

George Gillett and Tom Hicks look set to be on their way out of Anfield, with a High Court ruling giving Liverpool power to push through a takeover.

The American duo, who have co-owned the Reds since 2007, have been reluctantly forced to concede that they cannot block a £300million bid from New England Sports Ventures.

NESV, who own the Boston Red Sox and are fronted by John W Henry, saw a formal offer accepted by the Liverpool board against the wishes of Hicks and Gillett.

With that offer set to see them make a sizeable loss on their investment, the Reds' co-owners attempted to disrupt proceedings and retain their stranglehold on the Merseyside giants.

However, their efforts to remove high-ranking members of the board proved fruitless and it quickly became apparent that they were fighting a losing battle.

Taking the matter to the High Court was Hicks and Gillett's last chance to stave off a sale they did not sanction and ensure they continued to hold power at Anfield.

Those efforts have been in vain, though, as Mr Justice Floyd has given Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton the go-ahead to sell the club.
Debt

He sided in favour of the Royal Bank of Scotland, who are owed over £230m by Hicks and Gillett following their takeover.

The deadline for repayment on that loan was set at Friday, with fears raised that Liverpool could be docked nine points were the debt not settled and the club's holding company, Kop Holdings, were forced into administration.

That situation will be avoided should a takeover agreement with NESV now be put in place, with Henry making it clear that all outstanding debts will be cleared should he take charge.

Hicks and Gillett had asked a judge to delay the hearing of an application by RBS for mandatory orders but, at the bank's request, injunctions have been imposed on the two men requiring them to restore the original constitutions of the companies and managing directors.

While the way has now been paved for NESV to complete a takeover, there is still a chance that a rival bid from Singapore billionaire Peter Lim could be negotiated.

He has vowed to stump up £320million in cash to get the club back on an even keel, with £40m available for players in the January transfer window.

The saga could rumble on for some time yet, with a takeover deal now needing to be thrashed out, but Hicks and Gillett have been refused the right to appeal, meaning one hurdle has been cleared.

A statement released by Liverpool on their official website read: "We are delighted that the court has clarified the issue of board composition and has removed the uncertainty around the sale process.

"We will now be consulting with our lawyers and planning for a board meeting tonight (Wednesday). A further statement will be made in due course."



I'm glad Hicks and Gillett have been denied the right to appeal, will be interesting to see where it goes from here, there's still an awful lot of mess to clear up and I think the saga is far from over yet tbh. I wouldn't want any Yank with pots of money and no clue about football taking over my club, get rid of two and get another one in? Could be a case of same story different name.

[MissKittyFantastico]

George Gillett and Tom Hicks look set to be on their way out of Anfield, with a High Court ruling giving Liverpool power to push through a takeover.

The American duo, who have co-owned the Reds since 2007, have been reluctantly forced to concede that they cannot block a £300million bid from New England Sports Ventures.

NESV, who own the Boston Red Sox and are fronted by John W Henry, saw a formal offer accepted by the Liverpool board against the wishes of Hicks and Gillett.

With that offer set to see them make a sizeable loss on their investment, the Reds' co-owners attempted to disrupt proceedings and retain their stranglehold on the Merseyside giants.

However, their efforts to remove high-ranking members of the board proved fruitless and it quickly became apparent that they were fighting a losing battle.

Taking the matter to the High Court was Hicks and Gillett's last chance to stave off a sale they did not sanction and ensure they continued to hold power at Anfield.

Those efforts have been in vain, though, as Mr Justice Floyd has given Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton the go-ahead to sell the club.
Debt

He sided in favour of the Royal Bank of Scotland, who are owed over £230m by Hicks and Gillett following their takeover.

The deadline for repayment on that loan was set at Friday, with fears raised that Liverpool could be docked nine points were the debt not settled and the club's holding company, Kop Holdings, were forced into administration.

That situation will be avoided should a takeover agreement with NESV now be put in place, with Henry making it clear that all outstanding debts will be cleared should he take charge.

Hicks and Gillett had asked a judge to delay the hearing of an application by RBS for mandatory orders but, at the bank's request, injunctions have been imposed on the two men requiring them to restore the original constitutions of the companies and managing directors.

While the way has now been paved for NESV to complete a takeover, there is still a chance that a rival bid from Singapore billionaire Peter Lim could be negotiated.

He has vowed to stump up £320million in cash to get the club back on an even keel, with £40m available for players in the January transfer window.

The saga could rumble on for some time yet, with a takeover deal now needing to be thrashed out, but Hicks and Gillett have been refused the right to appeal, meaning one hurdle has been cleared.

A statement released by Liverpool on their official website read: "We are delighted that the court has clarified the issue of board composition and has removed the uncertainty around the sale process.

"We will now be consulting with our lawyers and planning for a board meeting tonight (Wednesday). A further statement will be made in due course."



I'm glad Hicks and Gillett have been denied the right to appeal, will be interesting to see where it goes from here, there's still an awful lot of mess to clear up and I think the saga is far from over yet tbh. I wouldn't want any Yank with pots of money and no clue about football taking over my club, get rid of two and get another one in? Could be a case of same story different name.

[Locke.]

Was great news to wake up to this morning. Also that Torres is now expected to be fit to start on sunday :)

Board meeting is tonight at 8 to talk about the bids that have been received

[Novo]

A scotland squad with 6 Rangers players in the starting 11 Ran the world's best team so close last night and it was a former celtic player to blame for Spain's winner

[bbfan1991]

England match was bloody crap, still at least we got a point but the performance again abysmal and there needs to be improvements:mad:.

Scotland can be proud of their display too against Spain:)..

[bbfan1991]

Saga gets worse for Liverpool:shocked:.

Bring on Saturday games:).

[bbfan1991]

I've added Cristiano Ronaldo on Twitter LOL:D:D.

[setanta]

Did you hear Rooney telling the press he hasn't been injured at all and has no idea why he was left out of the United squad that faced Everton and played in Europe? You don't do things like that when Ferguson is your boss and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he's sold at this stage, which is something I wouldn't have been able to contemplate prior to the Word Cup.

[MissKittyFantastico]

This Liverpool thing is just a joke now....if it doesn't get sorted soon I can se NESV walking away from the deal. Peter Lim has already removed his bid so if this falls through they could be screwed. RBS could also still recall the loan, and I wouldn't blame them tbh with all this nonsense going on.


Liverpool are set to return to the High Court on Thursday to try and resolve the future of the ownership of the club.

The proposed £300million deal with New England Sports Ventures (NESV) was delayed on Wednesday after the club's current owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett gained an injunction in a Texas court to stop the sale of the Anfield outfit.

Earlier on Wednesday a takeover looked to be on the horizon after the High Court in London ruled Hicks and Gillett could not prevent a change of ownership.

Now Liverpool's board are returning to the High Court at 2pm as they look to remove the restraining order obtained and they intend to complete the sale to NESV.
Confident

Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton remains confident the takeover of the club will go through despite the last-ditch attempts to block the sale.

The whole process took another step closer on Wednesday evening when NESV supremo John W Henry, who also controls the Boston Red Sox, then arrived in London for talks with Liverpool's board

However, Hicks and Gillett have challenged the sale by obtaining a temporary restraining order to prevent the deal going through.

The American have described the prospective deal with NESV as an 'epic swindle' and are seeking $1.6billion (more than £1billion) damages against The Royal Bank of Scotland, Liverpool board members and NESV.

Keep the faith

Despite the latest twist in the saga, Broughton is optimistic that the sale will go through after accusing Hicks and Gillett of 'trying every trick in the book'.

"They are trying every trick in the book, but keep the faith," Broughton told Sky Sports News HD.

"We will keep trying. I haven't heard anything [this morning] I haven't had time."

Asked if he remained confident of doing the deal with NESV, Broughton added: "I always remain confident."

Henry is believed to be prepared to wait for the order to be lifted to conclude the takeover.

Mill Financial

Meanwhile, Hicks remains in control of his share of the club and has not sold out to Mill Financial.

Reports earlier in the day suggested the hedge fund, a branch of Washington-based Springfield Financial, had acquired the Texan's 50 per cent share having already taken ownership of his fellow co-owner Gillett's half.

However, a UK-based spokesman for Tom Hicks said Mill Financial had not acquired Hicks' stake.

[MissKittyFantastico]

This Liverpool thing is just a joke now....if it doesn't get sorted soon I can se NESV walking away from the deal. Peter Lim has already removed his bid so if this falls through they could be screwed. RBS could also still recall the loan, and I wouldn't blame them tbh with all this nonsense going on.


Liverpool are set to return to the High Court on Thursday to try and resolve the future of the ownership of the club.

The proposed £300million deal with New England Sports Ventures (NESV) was delayed on Wednesday after the club's current owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett gained an injunction in a Texas court to stop the sale of the Anfield outfit.

Earlier on Wednesday a takeover looked to be on the horizon after the High Court in London ruled Hicks and Gillett could not prevent a change of ownership.

Now Liverpool's board are returning to the High Court at 2pm as they look to remove the restraining order obtained and they intend to complete the sale to NESV.
Confident

Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton remains confident the takeover of the club will go through despite the last-ditch attempts to block the sale.

The whole process took another step closer on Wednesday evening when NESV supremo John W Henry, who also controls the Boston Red Sox, then arrived in London for talks with Liverpool's board

However, Hicks and Gillett have challenged the sale by obtaining a temporary restraining order to prevent the deal going through.

The American have described the prospective deal with NESV as an 'epic swindle' and are seeking $1.6billion (more than £1billion) damages against The Royal Bank of Scotland, Liverpool board members and NESV.

Keep the faith

Despite the latest twist in the saga, Broughton is optimistic that the sale will go through after accusing Hicks and Gillett of 'trying every trick in the book'.

"They are trying every trick in the book, but keep the faith," Broughton told Sky Sports News HD.

"We will keep trying. I haven't heard anything [this morning] I haven't had time."

Asked if he remained confident of doing the deal with NESV, Broughton added: "I always remain confident."

Henry is believed to be prepared to wait for the order to be lifted to conclude the takeover.

Mill Financial

Meanwhile, Hicks remains in control of his share of the club and has not sold out to Mill Financial.

Reports earlier in the day suggested the hedge fund, a branch of Washington-based Springfield Financial, had acquired the Texan's 50 per cent share having already taken ownership of his fellow co-owner Gillett's half.

However, a UK-based spokesman for Tom Hicks said Mill Financial had not acquired Hicks' stake.

[Omen]

It's possible that this adversity will produce a bunker mentality and actually be good for the team.

[MissKittyFantastico]

I don't think so, several of the players have spoken out already about the detrimental effect it's having on morale etc within the team. Added to that fact that Torres doesn't really want to be there and it's not looking good tbh.

[bbfan1991]

Did you hear Rooney telling the press he hasn't been injured at all and has no idea why he was left out of the United squad that faced Everton and played in Europe? You don't do things like that when Ferguson is your boss and I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he's sold at this stage, which is something I wouldn't have been able to contemplate prior to the Word Cup.

No I don't think Fergie will sell Rooney, however who knows as he has sold big name players before. Rooney being dropped from that match was for his own good, he needs to get his form back and sort out his private life!:).

[setanta]

No I don't think Fergie will sell Rooney, however who knows as he has sold big name players before. Rooney being dropped from that match was for his own good, he needs to get his form back and sort out his private life!:).

He's sold players for speaking out of turn before. It honestly wouldn't surprise me, especially if Rooney's form doesn't pick up.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Rooney is nothing but a douche, sorry but he is.

He shouldn't even be in the England team and I wouldn't be surprised if his career goes into freefall tbh.

[Omen]

Bit soon to be panicking, they're only 5 points off 4th place. I'd love to see them implode though, it's only human nature to watch car crashes. Why would a billionaire buy Man City or QPR or Cardiff when the most illustrious club could be had? Liverpol won't be short of suitors, no matter what.

[MissKittyFantastico]

I'm torn, because from a Merseyside football perspective, it would be awful to see one of the teams implode, Liverpool is such a proud footballing city with the greatest history in the game BUT...a lot of the supporters have such a glorified sense of self importance and arrogance that part of me can't help but have a little chuckle at their expense.

[bbfan1991]

He's sold players for speaking out of turn before. It honestly wouldn't surprise me, especially if Rooney's form doesn't pick up.

I know that he has behaved like an idiot recently but can't see Fergie selling Wayne at all:nono:, it will all soon blow over...

[Omen]

When you hear that NESV have only 40m to spend in the transfer window, it's not a lot. These prospective new owners are no Roman Abramaviches, and if that's the best they can do, Liverpool might be staring into a sustained spell of mid-table mediocrity, which is lingering death for a club like theirs.

[Omen]

I know that he has behaved like an idiot recently but can't see Fergie selling Wayne at all:nono:, it will all soon blow over...

I agree with Setanta. I think the whole affair is fishy.

[MissKittyFantastico]

You have got to be kidding me, Fellani injured now as well :(

David Moyes is without two key midfielders for the visit of Liverpool.

Marouane Fellaini and Steven Pienaar are both out but Phil Jagielka's hamstring injury isn't as bad as first thought.

The England defender is still likely to miss this Sunday's clash though.

Pienaar has a groin problem which he picked up ahead of the Birmingham game while Fellaini injured his hamstring on international duty with Belgium and is likely to be out for at least a month.

Everton are also without Victor Anichebe and Jack Rodwell for the derby clash, while the game is also likely to have come too soon for Louis Saha.

Moyes said of Fellaini's injury: "It's a very big blow because he is an important player for us. It's very disappointinng and a big blow."

And on Jagielka he added: "At the moment he is not going to be because he has got the hamstring injury he got with England.

"He's not as bad as we first thought but whether it comes to quick for him, that is the way it's looking at this present time."

Our luck going into derbys is just awful. For ****s sake.

[alc09]

One thing for sure is that an incredible amount of money is needed to rebuild that Liverpool side.

[bbfan1991]

One thing for sure is that an incredible amount of money is needed to rebuild that Liverpool side.

Definetly:D, however how long before fans lose patience with the new owners?.:joker::spin:.

[alc09]

They shouldn't throw the 'Yanks out' banners away just yet.....

[bbfan1991]

Looking forward to the buzz of footie Saturday again:D:).

[setanta]

Why are fans happy with another Yank taking over? All very strange stuff. Wouldn't surprise me if he sold them within a season or two.

[alc09]

You talk out of your arse 99% of the time, setanta, but that is a fair point.

[DDRickyDD]

They shouldn't throw the 'Yanks out' banners away just yet.....

Perhaps they could borrow it to Man United!

Why are fans happy with another Yank taking over? All very strange stuff. Wouldn't surprise me if he sold them within a season or two.

Whats his nationality got to do wth it? Henry has proven he is a very capable sports club owner at the Boston Red Sox so the fans have no reason to doubt him. Hicks on the other hand came to Liverpool with an awful record having messed up Corinthians in Brazil and having taken money out of the Texas Rangers. I don't know why the Liverpool board let Hicks buy Liverpool, a quick google search would find that he's a swindler. On Granada reports it said that Henry was voted the most capable owner in the MLB while Hicks was voted the 2nd worst.

[setanta]

Perhaps they could borrow it to Man United!



Whats his nationality got to do wth it? Henry has proven he is a very capable sports club owner at the Boston Red Sox so the fans have no reason to doubt him. Hicks on the other hand came to Liverpool with an awful record having messed up Corinthians in Brazil and having taken money out of the Texas Rangers. I don't know why the Liverpool board let Hicks buy Liverpool, a quick google search would find that he's a swindler. On Granada reports it said that Henry was voted the most capable owner in the MLB while Hicks was voted the 2nd worst.

It's just that another Yank has come in and bought the club on the cheap, and you know he's in it to make money, that's all. I just think it's a bit weird that he's been cheered as their saviour when I can see him pushing the club for a year or two and then selling it for a fortune. He's not in there for the long run, well not in my opinion anyway.

[Locke.]

I've got no problem where he is from, what he's said so far sounds promising and nothing can be worse than what Hicks & Gillett have done. He's got a lot of success in sport in the past aswell, and the Red Sox are the second biggest spenders in the baseball league in the US so fingers crossed...

[setanta]

You talk out of your arse 99% of the time, setanta, but that is a fair point.

Well, that's one percent more than I can say of you. :blush: Kidding.

[setanta]

I've got no problem where he is from, what he's said so far sounds promising and nothing can be worse than what Hicks & Gillett have done. He's got a lot of success in sport in the past aswell, and the Red Sox are the second biggest spenders in the baseball league in the US so fingers crossed...

I don't know David. Ok, he'll probably throw a bit of cash around but it all seems so weird to me. Love to know what really went on in that club over the last year or so.

[30stone]

I think people fotget that liverpool still have a lot of class in their team..

The keeper is not having his best season but hes one of the best in the world no doubt..

Players like gerrard, torres.
to a lesser extent merelis, maxi, kuyt, Cole
Skrtel and agger are pretty good, Jovanovic hasnt show his worth as of yet but is class.

[setanta]

Got a HD Plasma screen in today Ben, and FIFA is incredible on it. The difference in graphics... wow, just wow.

[30stone]

Another poor performance from England.

Why he brought on SWP and Davies I don't know, what about Downing or Defoe or even Wilshere?

Johnson remains a liability at the back, Rooney is ****.....half of them looked like they didn't even really want to be there imo. Shocking.

Capello needs to **** off.

Not Capellos fault players are just poor..

[setanta]

I thought Davies did pretty well from what I saw in the highlights.

[30stone]

The problem with fifa is its not in 1080p.. call of duty on my tv is amazing!

[setanta]

The problem with fifa is its not in 1080p.. call of duty on my tv is amazing!

It's amazing in HD. Couldn't get over how different it looked. You can actually see the radar.

[30stone]

Cant believe you havent played in hd before its far better.

Ive always had hd really but my tv was small and cheap my one i bought in june is 37inch panasonic picture is amazing..

[setanta]

Got a Samsung one. Fantastic. Didn't realise that it would make such a big difference with games. Now I can't wait to throw on a few Dvds and see what they look like. Got a Blu-Ray player with it... pretty decent deal too.

[Omen]

The new Liverpool owner has a net worth of £500m which is at the ha'penny place next to their rivals.

[30stone]

YEah its always good ive only got one blue ray dvd ut its a complete perfect picture...


Chels around? wonder if she thinks Swansea will lose or win against Reading..

[30stone]

Cardiff losing at hom e to bristol..

[setanta]

YEah its always good ive only got one blue ray dvd ut its a complete perfect picture...


Chels around? wonder if she thinks Swansea will lose or win against Reading..

You got 6 Dvds with the player. I couldn't choose which ones though.... Up, Toy Story, 300, Bruno, Sweeney Todd and Momma fecking Mia.

[30stone]

lol not bad how bigs the tv? and how much was it all?


I only have fast and furious

[setanta]

40 inch with the Blu- Ray and dvds for 675. That's decent, right?

[30stone]

Very! mine is 37 and cost 599.95..

[Omen]

I got a new Phillips bluray player for about €50 on ebay.

[Omen]

Cardiff losing at hom e to bristol..

2 -2 now.

[GiRTh]

Mersey side Derby should be interesting. Player for player Everton have probably got as strong a squad as Liverpool.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Mersey side Derby should be interesting. Player for player Everton have probably got as strong a squad as Liverpool.

Agreed. Interesting article on the Mail online website yesterday actually.

Liverpool's Mersey-slide... Everton outnumber derby rivals in our 'Everpool' combined XI

Liverpool might nomally expect to dominate a combined Merseyside X1, but a 6/5 split in Everton's favour underlines how they have lost their way on the field, as well as off it.

Daniel Agger is the only Liverpool player with cause for complaint at being omitted.

Glen Johnson's defensive shortcomings, not least his positional play, continue to count against him, while Joe Cole has yet to make the impact expected.
Dirk Kuyt scores the winner in last season's derby at Anfield

On paper, it looks a formidable line-up, but, on grass, it has been a different story so far this season, with too many illustrious names still searching for their true form.

Perhaps the intensity of a Merseyside derby will help them find it.

Everpool XI

GK - Pepe Reina (Liverpool) - frequent complaints about the ownership saga affecting morale suggests he may have taken his eye off the ball - he certainly did against Arsenal - but he still just gets the nod over Tim Howard.

RB - Phil Neville (Everton) - no Glen Johnson going forward, admittedly, but he knows how to defend, which ought to be a basic requirement for any full-back but appears not to be at Anfield.

CB - Jamie Carragher (Liverpool) - age may be catching up, and some nippy strikers even overtaking, but the inbuilt instinct to hold a back line together remains as strong as ever. Born to defend.

CB - Phil Jagielka (Everton) - another inspired David Moyes signing. Didn't look it to begin with but has flourished to such a degree that any injury absence impacts on England, never mind Everton.

LB - Leighton Baines (Everton) - if there's not much attacking flair on the right, there is on the left. Telepathic understanding with Steven Pienaar down the flank wins him the vote over Paul Konchesky.

RW - Dirk Kuyt (Liverpool) - found his niche on the right after struggling up front and would be the last to falter in any endurance test. Leon Osman may still feel rightly aggrieved at being overlooked. Close call.

CM - Mikel Arteta (Everton) - not at his scintillating best this season but still good enough to walk into this midfield, which says plenty about Liverpool's lack of creativity. Not making things happen but not hiding, either.

CM - Steven Gerrard (Liverpool) - strongest shoulders in football after carrying his home team for far too long. Liverpool pay him well enough but will always owe him for staying loyal and constantly inspiring. Captain, naturally.

RW - Steven Pienaar (Everton) - instead of searching far and wide for a winger who can open up defences, Liverpool should have looked across Stanley Park. A free agent next summer, Pienaar would be easy on the eye and the pocket.

AM - Tim Cahill (Everton) - a goal on Sunday would be his fifth in derbies and take him past Duncan Ferguson as Everton's highest post-war scorer in these games. Wait for sparks to fly when he fronts up Carragher.

CF - Fernando Torres (Liverpool) - past reputation gets him in ahead of Louis Saha. Current form, and demeanour, has to be Roy Hodgson's biggest worry. A dramatic upturn in Liverpool's fortunes is needed to keep him happy.



This time tomorrow we'll be into the second half, I'm so excited I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve, nothing like being at a derby game at Goodison!

[bbfan1991]

I saw an interview with Phil Neville on Football Focus, have nothing but respect for the guy in all what he's done in his career:).

[bbfan1991]

Chris Jericho is at the United game:D.

At the Manchester United game. This football stuff is pretty bad ass. Still Waiting for Beckham and Pele to take the field tho....

[30stone]

Arsenal go ahead 2 -1

Chamakh :)

[Locke.]

I'd have the starting 11 as:

GK: Reina (Liv)

RB: Neville (Eve)
CB: Agger (Liv)
CB: Jagielka (Eve)
LB: Baines (Eve)

DM: Meireles (Liv)
CM: Arteta (Eve)

RW: Kuyt (Liv)
AM: Gerrard (Liv)
LW: Billyaletdinov (Eve)

ST: Torres (Liv)

[Omen]

All square at OT. 2 -2

http://atdhe.net/25805/watch-manchester-united-vs-west-bromwich

[30stone]

west brom goal


2 -2 vs man united... they have got better but its ridiculous we will beat em next time.

[Omen]

Huge Van Der Saar howler, wait til you see it!

[setanta]

Oh, it was such a howler! But nah, United were useless in that second half.

[Locke.]

Get in West Brom :)

Can't believe they are actually picking up points in the league this time around.

[bbfan1991]

Oh, it was such a howler! But nah, United were useless in that second half.

I agree:(, credit to West Brom though they got back in and the United players only have themselves to blame...

[alc09]

Gutted.

got done in the last minute to lose 5-4 after coming back from 3-0 down.

[Mark]

Ipswich 1-2 Coventry City.

Great win, putting us up into 7th.

Cardiff next game at home on tuesday night 19:45. Sky Blue Army :)

[alc09]

Ipswich 1-2 Coventry City.

Great win, putting us up into 7th.

Cardiff next game at home on tuesday night 19:45. Sky Blue Army :)
"Danny, Danny Waaaaaard."

[30stone]

1 Week and Arsenal go back to second.


Hope man city lose tomorow.

[bbfan1991]

Cardiff won which means they are keeping on the tails of QPR:), Nottingham Forest lost to Barnsley:(.

[Omen]

'Boro -0- Leeds 1 HT

[Omen]

1 - 1 now

[Omen]

1 - 2

Becchio. Goal of the day!

[Omen]

We want Strachan out!

Still 1 - 2

[Omen]

1 - 2 FT

Strachan on thin ice.

[King Gizzard]

Reo Coker you mug D;

[MissKittyFantastico]

cKsbBFjBOtQ

Legend :worship:

[DDRickyDD]

Arsenal fortunate to win against Birmingham. Never a penalty. Aston Villa and Chelsea ended in a bore draw as I expected. Man United yet again blew a 2-0 lead, this time against WBA.

Cardiff struggle to beat bottom team Bristol City. Derby beat Preston with ease but Preston have an easy game against Scunthorpe next which will surely end in victory. Sven's first game at Leicester ends in a draw despite them taking an early lead. Middlesbrough lose again and need to get rid of Strachan if they want to challenge for promotion. An incredible game in Yorkshire, Sheffield United came back from 2-0 down to make it 2-2 then came back from 3-2 down to equalize in the last minute. Swansea won and look like a really good team, could become the first Welsh team to play in the Premier League.

Good win for Bordeaux in at Auxerre. Marseille beat Nancy 1-0 with a Remy goal.

A Gomez hat-trick for Bayern Munich got them back to winning ways as they beat Hannover 3-0. Mainz run of victories is over when they conceded a late goal to Hamburg and lost 1-0. Mclaren's Wolfsburg lost at home to Bayer Leverkusen despite having a 2-0 lead up until the 72nd minute, they conceded three goals in the last 18 minutes.

[Chels]

Lol you dick, we didn't struggle at all. Would have put 7 at least past them if James didn't (typically) have a blinder. 2 silly mistakes by naylor and heaton was the only reason we conceeded, they didn't even look like scoring since.

Don't give your crappy little write-ups unless you were actually there. Shows how much you know...

[Chels]

And swansea, first team to play in the prem? lol what a tart.

[DDRickyDD]

Lol you dick, we didn't struggle at all. Would have put 7 at least past them if James didn't (typically) have a blinder. 2 silly mistakes by naylor and heaton was the only reason we conceeded, they didn't even look like scoring since.

I watched the match on TV in my armchair.:joker:

Don't give your crappy little write-ups unless you were actually there. Shows how much you know...

I will do want I want thank you very much.

And swansea, first team to play in the prem? lol what a tart.

Swansea are 4th in the league and have every chance of playing in the Premier League next season. Saying that they might become the first Welsh team to play in the Premier League next season isn't foolish, it's realism.

What's a tart? :conf:

[30stone]

I agree with Chels.. did you see swansea ?? they were poor against reading really, but reading were just worse.. Swansea arent good enough for premier league not really.


And Arsenal were by far the better team against birmingham.

[bbfan1991]

Well done to Everton:), it gets more worse for Liverpool...

[Locke.]

Beat by the two ****test teams in the league in a row, Blackpool and Everton. Jesus christ.

[alc09]

Ricky. :joker:

Just give it up.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Beat by the two ****test teams in the league in a row, Blackpool and Everton. Jesus christ.

The two ****test teams in the league? I think you'll find that's you and West Ham :xyxwave:

I ****ing love my blue boys. :D:D:D:D:D:D

Liverpool couldn't even score with a 12th man in Howard Webb, that says it all really.

No voice left from singing my heart out at the game and am off to get pissed now.

ETID ♥

[bbfan1991]

The two ****test teams in the league? I think you'll find that's you and West Ham :xyxwave:

I ****ing love my blue boys. :D:D:D:D:D:D

Liverpool couldn't even score with a 12th man in Howard Webb, that says it all really.

No voice left from singing my heart out at the game and am off to get pissed now.

ETID ♥

You go and enjoy yourself and bring some Toffees back;).

[Mark]

Disappointing result today for Liverpool. Torres just looks like he doesn't want to even be on the pitch. At the moment I don't care if they sell him in January (due to performance and constant injury), with the money from him plus the £40m from the new owners that gives us a lot of money to start to rebuild this team and get rid of some of the average players (like lucas).

Also looking forward to Coventry vs Cardiff on Tuesday. Got my seat ready warmed up in the directors box :) The betting line has moved a lot since Cardiff scraped a win past a poor Bristol City, and Coventry beat a top 4 Ipswich away from home. It's now 2.46 Cardiff, 3.15 Coventry, 3.35 Draw. Should be a great game regardless, with Coventry looking to break into the top 6, and Cardiff looking to close the gap to QPR. I feel like both teams are capable of scoring at the moment and think this might be a 2-2 sort of game, with one team stealing a goal in the 90th.

[Mark]

Also it's interesting that Swansea are favourites over QPR (2.5 Swan, 3.2 QPR).

I might be hitting QPR hard at that price. Some serious value.

[DDRickyDD]

I agree with Chels.. did you see swansea ?? they were poor against reading really, but reading were just worse.. Swansea arent good enough for premier league not really.

That's what everyone said about Blackpool last season and they managed to fluke their way into the Premier League so why can't Swansea?

Ricky. :joker:

Just give it up.

What do you mean? :conf:

Eveton fans must be gutted that they only won 2-0, could easily have been much much more. Can't see Roy lasting much longer.

How biased was Andy Gray? He should have just admited that he wanted Blackpool to win. The Blackpool disallowed goal was offside because the other player who was offside put a leg out to control the ball therefore it was offside under the laws of the game. Tevez was not offside when he scored, was he perfectly on line.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Eveton fans must be gutted that they only won 2-0, could easily have been much much more. Can't see Roy lasting much longer.


Why the hell would we be gutted?! We've just won the first derby since 2006 and convincingly so. Granted we could have probably won 4-0 but it's the clean sheet and the fact that we've launched ourselves up the table that counts, oh and that Liverpool have now moved down to 19th :laugh:

[DDRickyDD]

Why the hell would we be gutted?! We've just won the first derby since 2006 and convincingly so. Granted we could have probably won 4-0 but it's the clean sheet and the fact that we've launched ourselves up the table that counts, oh and that Liverpool have now moved down to 19th :laugh:

Because Liverpool were that bad!

[Locke.]

I agree with Ricky, Everton should be dissapointed with that performance and it says alot that we can play so bad and not be absolutely thrashed, I guess it just shows that Everton are ****e. :)

[30stone]

I hate man city with so muc passion always just seem to have a bit of luck..

[MissKittyFantastico]

I agree with Ricky, Everton should be dissapointed with that performance and it says alot that we can play so bad and not be absolutely thrashed, I guess it just shows that Everton are ****e. :)

Rofl we weren't even at full strength and we still beat you 2-0, could easily have been more especially if Fellani had been fit, he would have ripped your midfield to pieces, and Pienaar the same. We still beat you and that's what matters, I wouldn't be calling us ****e David considering your position at the moment :laugh:

[Locke.]

We have good enough players to turn it around and get us up the table, we're only 5 points off a Europa League spot, we just need a manager that knows what he is doing.

And Fellani would get sent off, the big mong just jumps around bumping into everybody. Reminds me a bit of Kyrgiakos, their both hilarious to watch.

[MissKittyFantastico]

We have good enough players to turn it around and get us up the table, we're only 5 points off a Europa League spot, we just need a manager that knows what he is doing.

And Fellani would get sent off, the big mong just jumps around bumping into everybody. Reminds me a bit of Kyrgiakos, their both hilarious to watch.

I think a lot of your players just aren't good enough though, Lucas, Poulsen, Maxi are all ****e, plus Torres was acting like a spoilt child again today and doesn't seem to want to be there. Gerrard was your only decent player again really. Felli would almost definitely have been sent off with Webb as ref, bald headed **** hasn't got a clue, he booked Beckford as soon as he came on for **** all. Felli is a brilliant player though, he's not a mong :nono:

Woy honestly is the wrong man for the job totally, he just looks like he hasn't got a clue what to do.

Tbf I do expect you to turn it around, but I reckon Woy might be out of a job come Christmas.

[Mystic Mock]

chamakh should be suspended by the fa after his diving last night.

the bastard robbed birmingham of a point if not 3.:mad:

[Locke.]

I think a lot of your players just aren't good enough though, Lucas, Poulsen, Maxi are all ****e, plus Torres was acting like a spoilt child again today and doesn't seem to want to be there. Gerrard was your only decent player again really. Felli would almost definitely have been sent off with Webb as ref, bald headed **** hasn't got a clue, he booked Beckford as soon as he came on for **** all. Felli is a brilliant player though, he's not a mong :nono:

Woy honestly is the wrong man for the job totally, he just looks like he hasn't got a clue what to do.

Tbf I do expect you to turn it around, but I reckon Woy might be out of a job come Christmas.

NESV said they'd listen to what the fans wanted and alls it takes it a look on Liverpool forums to see what the fans want when it comes to Roy being manager, so hopefully he'll be out very soon. I do think they will want to give him more time though, so I think he'll be given another 4 or 5 games to turn it around before he's gone. Our last win was 7 games ago against Steau Bucharest, and even then we were average and they deserved a point out of that game.

Lucas has improved a lot and I quite like him now, he was awful today though. Maxi is just average really, good enough to be a back up player but shouldn't be starting week in week out. And Poulsen is just one of the worst players I've ever seen playing for us.

[MissKittyFantastico]

NESV said they'd listen to what the fans wanted and alls it takes it a look on Liverpool forums to see what the fans want when it comes to Roy being manager, so hopefully he'll be out very soon. I do think they will want to give him more time though, so I think he'll be given another 4 or 5 games to turn it around before he's gone. Our last win was 7 games ago against Steau Bucharest, and even then we were average and they deserved a point out of that game.

Lucas has improved a lot and I quite like him now, he was awful today though. Maxi is just average really, good enough to be a back up player but shouldn't be starting week in week out. And Poulsen is just one of the worst players I've ever seen playing for us.

Yeah I've been reading quite a lot about NESV and their plans and stuff, hopefully he'll stand by his word not like the other two sacks of ****e. Imo you need to sell several players and overhaul half the team, and if Torres doesn't want to be there get rid. They should have given the managers job to Kenny Dalglish imo, he would have jumped at the chance and wasn't he who a lot of Liverpool fans wanted? Or someone like Hiddink, Klinsman, someone like that, Woy just isn't cut out for it and he's sticking to the same tactics as the fat waiter did.

[Locke.]

Konchesky, Poulsen and Maxi need to be sold. We need to sign another striker, right back, a center back, and a left back (Insua shouldn't have been loaned out. He's on a years long loan and has 12 months left on his contract. What sort of business is that...).

Joe Cole needs to sort himself out aswell, he doesn't seem interested at all.

[Mystic Mock]

Konchesky, Poulsen and Maxi need to be sold. We need to sign another striker, right back, a center back, and a left back (Insua shouldn't have been loaned out. He's on a years long loan and has 12 months left on his contract. What sort of business is that...).

Joe Cole needs to sort himself out aswell, he doesn't seem interested at all.

konchesky is a good player but he isnt good enough for liverpool,poulsen and maxi hardly ever have the ball on the matches ive seen liverpool play this season,and joe cole is to injury prone.

and i think you only need to sort out skrtel and carragher at the back as when birmingham were playing them,we were ripping the center halfs to bits.

[30stone]

I think a lot of your players just aren't good enough though, Lucas, Poulsen, Maxi are all ****e, plus Torres was acting like a spoilt child again today and doesn't seem to want to be there. Gerrard was your only decent player again really. Felli would almost definitely have been sent off with Webb as ref, bald headed **** hasn't got a clue, he booked Beckford as soon as he came on for **** all. Felli is a brilliant player though, he's not a mong :nono:

Woy honestly is the wrong man for the job totally, he just looks like he hasn't got a clue what to do.

Tbf I do expect you to turn it around, but I reckon Woy might be out of a job come Christmas.

Webb is a fantsdtic ref.
And Maxi isnt **** hes quality!

[Locke.]

konchesky is a good player but he isnt good enough for liverpool,poulsen and maxi hardly ever have the ball on the matches ive seen liverpool play this season,and joe cole is to injury prone.

and i think you only need to sort out skrtel and carragher at the back as when birmingham were playing them,we were ripping the center halfs to bits.

Poulsen was brought in to replace Mascherano, I've yet to see him make one good tackle and when he does get the ball he gives it away.

Agger should play ahead of Skrtel, he's definitely a better defender. Carragher is my favourite player but so far this season he hasn't been impressive, I think this will be his last season where he is guaranteed to be starting ever game for us.

[30stone]

Van der Weil would be a good signing for liverpool..

[Mystic Mock]

i think liverpool need a player like albrighton from aston villa,or even go for him in the january transfer window.

[joeysteele]

chamakh should be suspended by the fa after his diving last night.

the bastard robbed birmingham of a point if not 3.:mad:

He certainly did, you are right.

[30stone]

He certainly did, you are right.

LOL for a start "if not 3" where would birmingham have scored? Arsenal in the second half absoluetely dominated.

Anyway why should he be suspended.. rooney drogba torres all go down easy..

In the same position what most would consider the best 3 strikers in the league, would all go down in the same position.


So why Chamakh?

[30stone]

So NO contact with rooney and he had already thrown himself 80% of the way to the floor before almunia made less contact than the challenge on Chamakh.
Does rooney get banned? or suspended?
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Torres goes down like hes seriously hurt when he wasnt touched.. does torres get suspended??
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Drogba get suspended ??
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Yet Eduardo gets a 3 match ban (that was revoked because the fa were worried).
Chamakh shouldnt get a suspension thats ridiculous.

[alc09]

The Chamakh dive was laughable, but the comment from the Birmingham fan saying they were robbed of a point or 3, is even worse. A deserved Arsenal win.

[Mystic Mock]

LOL for a start "if not 3" where would birmingham have scored? Arsenal in the second half absoluetely dominated.

Anyway why should he be suspended.. rooney drogba torres all go down easy..

In the same position what most would consider the best 3 strikers in the league, would all go down in the same position.


So why Chamakh?

birmingham were winning 1-0 when he blatently dived.

[Mystic Mock]

Gordon Strachan sacked as boro manager.

im not surprised.

[bbfan1991]

If i'm proved wrong then fine but I can't see Wayne Rooney leaving United:nono:, it's near his family etc but stranger things have happened.. he must be stupid if he thought he could go against Fergie and win:joker:. Now he needs to get on with it!

Not surprised to see Gordon Strachan sacked, why Middlesborough were named as promotion favourites at the start is baffling:conf:.

[Mystic Mock]

If i'm proved wrong then fine but I can't see Wayne Rooney leaving United:nono:, it's near his family etc but stranger things have happened.. he must be stupid if he thought he could go against Fergie and win:joker:. Now he needs to get on with it!

Not surprised to see Gordon Strachan sacked, why Middlesborough were named as promotion favourites at the start is baffling:conf:.

i could see accrington stanley beating middlesbrough so i dont get it either.

[MissKittyFantastico]

So Fergie has spoken out and admitted that Shrek wants to leave Utd, what an ungrateful *****, wouldn't put it past him to end up at Man City with the other money grabbing gob****es.

We get 25% back on him I think when he gets sold so it's all good :)

[Chels]

I watched the match on TV in my armchair.:joker:

****ing hilarious aren't you.



I will do want I want thank you very much.

Alright but you're talking crap and nobody cares.


Swansea are 4th in the league and have every chance of playing in the Premier League next season. Saying that they might become the first Welsh team to play in the Premier League next season isn't foolish, it's realism.

What's a tart? :conf:

Realism? :joker: Yet we're above them in tha table and it will stay like that? :joker: They're a poor side, once Sinclair gets crocked they're screwed.

[Chels]

That's what everyone said about Blackpool last season and they managed to fluke their way into the Premier League so why can't Swansea?

Ben's spot on - they are poor. Blackpool were actually a decent side though not a ****e one-man team like the scum.

[Mystic Mock]

birmingham will kick blackpools ass saturday i hope.

[Chels]

birmingham will kick blackpools ass saturday i hope.

Heard RJ's having a ****ty season so far

[Mystic Mock]

Heard RJ's having a ****ty season so far

yeah but i think he misses joe hart.:(

[Chels]

yeah but i think he misses joe hart.:(

Nah he misses me ;)

[Mystic Mock]

Nah he misses me ;)

:joker:

[King Gizzard]

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01484/nigel_reo-coker_1484537c.jpg

[Mystic Mock]

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01484/nigel_reo-coker_1484537c.jpg

the **** really have played **** this season.:joker:

[King Gizzard]

Erm no they havnt..

Need to look at Birminghams position in the table before starting to diss Villa ;)

[Mystic Mock]

Erm no they havnt..

Need to look at Birminghams position in the table before starting to diss Villa ;)

thats true.:joker:

[setanta]

If he moves to City he really is scum. Don't expect him to though.

[GiRTh]

Cant really blame him TBH. City have got the likes of Yaya Toure on over 200k a week. Toure's a good midfileder but by no means a world beater. I'd LMAO if Shrek went to Man City or Chelsea, he'd be a fool to go abroad.

EDIT: Welcome back Setanta.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Cant really blame him TBH. City have got the likes of Yaya Toure on over 200k a week. Toure's a good midfileder but by no means a world beater. I'd LMAO if Shrek went to Man City or Chelsea, he'd be a fool to go abroad.

EDIT: Welcome back Setanta.

If he goes to City then it will just say that he's in the game for the money and not for the football because he'll spend half the time sat on the bench with Adebayor, especially with Tevez in the form he is, fgs he's not even first choice striker at Utd at the moment. He needs to wind his neck in and realise he's got it made where he is if he can recapture his form.

[King Gizzard]

Man Utd are going to do a Liverpool

Except the debts are even bigger, rofl

[MissKittyFantastico]

That's what happens when you allow Yanks who don't have a clue about the game take over your club :laugh:

[King Gizzard]

Except this God of a man

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0aVj6qfdVIauq/340x.jpg

[MissKittyFantastico]

Actually yeah, got a lot of respect for Lerner and he's actually a fan of the sport and that makes a big difference

[King Gizzard]

And he just used his own money lol

[MissKittyFantastico]

That's another reason I'll never bitch about Bill Kenwright, as frustrating as it can be not having the money for players, he remortgaged his house to plough money into the club, I'd rather have him than some muppet who doesn't have a clue racking up debts left right and centre :)

[GiRTh]

If he goes to City then it will just say that he's in the game for the money and not for the football because he'll spend half the time sat on the bench with Adebayor, especially with Tevez in the form he is, fgs he's not even first choice striker at Utd at the moment. He needs to wind his neck in and realise he's got it made where he is if he can recapture his form.I dont think thats true. When Tevez or Milner moved people soon stopped making such accusations. Rooney won every major trophy at Old Trafford except the FA Cup why shouldn't he seek a change and go to a club where he'll be the main man for years to come and they'll pay him as well as anyone in football.

Footballers wages may be out of hand but this is what we have to put up with. I know that if I was a top professional in a field and I saw other lesser professionals being paid higher wages than myself, I'd be looking to move. I wouldn't think twice and most people would do the same.

[MissKittyFantastico]

I dont think thats true. When Tevez or Milner moved people soon stopped making such accusations. Rooney won every major trophy at Old Trafford except the FA Cup why shouldn't he seek a change and go to a club where he'll be the main man for years to come and they'll pay him as well as anyone in football.

Footballers wages may be out of hand but this is what we have to put up with. I know that if I was a top professional in a field and I saw other lesser professionals being paid higher wages than myself, I'd be looking to move. I wouldn't think twice and most people would do the same.

Tevez was a completely different case though, he wasn't wanted at Utd so who can blame him for going somewhere that he is, and it's certainly paying off for him now because he's in fantastic form. All he wanted was to play and he wasn't getting that at Utd.

I agree with you in some ways, 'don't hate the player hate the game', but I really think it depends on the type of person you are, for example take Mikel Arteta, who is arguably good enough to be in the Spanish national team, he could have gone to the likes of Arsenal, Seville etc for a lot more money than he's on at Everton but he feels a sense of loyalty to the club, granted that's very rare these days but it just shows who is in it for the love of playing the game and who is in it for the money imo.

Success doesn't mean the same in my eyes if you've bought your way to a league title, which is bascially what Man City are doing with the amount of money they've spent on players. Some sort of cap needs to be put in place, otherwise the problem is just going to get worse.

[GiRTh]

Tevez was a completely different case though, he wasn't wanted at Utd so who can blame him for going somewhere that he is, and it's certainly paying off for him now because he's in fantastic form. All he wanted was to play and he wasn't getting that at Utd.

I agree with you in some ways, 'don't hate the player hate the game', but I really think it depends on the type of person you are, for example take Mikel Arteta, who is arguably good enough to be in the Spanish national team, he could have gone to the likes of Arsenal, Seville etc for a lot more money than he's on at Everton but he feels a sense of loyalty to the club, granted that's very rare these days but it just shows who is in it for the love of playing the game and who is in it for the money imo.

Success doesn't mean the same in my eyes if you've bought your way to a league title, which is bascially what Man City are doing with the amount of money they've spent on players. Some sort of cap needs to be put in place, otherwise the problem is just going to get worse.As an Arsenal fan I'd have loved to see Arteta at the Emirates. I think he should have gone cuz we'd be so much stronger with him but I dont blame him for being loyal.

Kind of agree with you about Man City but I'll be happy if they break up the Man Utd and Chelsea domination.

[Mystic Mock]

i would like a tighter priemiership battle up the top.

[MissKittyFantastico]

As an Arsenal fan I'd have loved to see Arteta at the Emirates. I think he should have gone cuz we'd be so much stronger with him but I dont blame him for being loyal.

Kind of agree with you about Man City but I'll be happy if they break up the Man Utd and Chelsea domination.

If he was going to go anywhere then it would have been back to Spain, I really admire his loyalty, like I said you don't get much of it these days. Gerrard is one of the only other players I can think of that shows total loyalty to his club, even considering the problems Liverpool have been having. Noone would blame him for leaving.

Meh, Man City are probably my most hated team in the league, my preference would be for Arsenal to take the title with Man City failing to even make Champions League again :laugh:

[Locke.]

Wayne Rooney could walk away from Manchester United next summer for just £5 million due to a little-used FIFA ruling.

The Webster ruling allows players to buy out the last year of their contracts for the price of their wages plus a nominal compensation fee, meaning that the England talisman could leave for less than a tenth of his market value.

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/19102010/58/premier-league-rooney-leave-5m.html

Everton fans better hope he goes in January.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Yeah I was reading about that earlier David, no way will Fergie let him get the chance to do that lol.

[Tom]

first going from a Liverpool team to a Manchester team, now swapping Manchester teams or maybe going Chelsea. pure madness :confused: yep you keep following the £££££££££££££ Rooney, if you're hearts not in it (which also includes loyalty) then you'll have no respect from the fans

Personally I never liked him and never saw the hype from him moving from Everton. He's a good player but no player is ever bigger than the club or the team, it will be a bit of a struggle esp with Utd going through a bad patch but we'll see it through

[MissKittyFantastico]

first going from a Liverpool team to a Manchester team, now swapping Manchester teams or maybe going Chelsea. pure madness :confused: yep you keep following the £££££££££££££ Rooney, if you're hearts not in it (which also includes loyalty) then you'll have no respect from the fans

Personally I never liked him and never saw the hype from him moving from Everton. He's a good player but no player is ever bigger than the club or the team, it will be a bit of a struggle esp with Utd going through a bad patch but we'll see it through

This is exactly how I feel about it too. He only left Everton because of the £££, he still supports us and even bought his son an Everton kit, wanted to play for us in the testimonial against Liverpool, he could have been a legend at the club but he chose to go to Utd, okay maybe fair enough with Utd being arguably the biggest club in the world and he's had great success there, but his heart has never been in it imo. May as well go to City if all he cares about is the money now, but he'll be hated for it.

[GiRTh]

If he was going to go anywhere then it would have been back to Spain, I really admire his loyalty, like I said you don't get much of it these days. Gerrard is one of the only other players I can think of that shows total loyalty to his club, even considering the problems Liverpool have been having. Noone would blame him for leaving.

Meh, Man City are probably my most hated team in the league, my preference would be for Arsenal to take the title with Man City failing to even make Champions League again :laugh:I think Ma City may be contenders for the title. They've already beaten Chelsea. We wont win it. Fabregas will get injured or something and we'll be done. Man Utd though might struggle to make the Champions league. I'd p*ss myself if they didn't make it.

[Mark]

Coventry 1-2 Cardiff

3 minutes in, a ball is crossed into Covs box, no-one reaches it and it goes out of play. Everyone assumes its a goal kick and starts running back. Meanwhile the assistant on the side of the pitch is going ape and trying to get the refs attention. Ref goes over, they talk for about 30 seconds and the ref now decides it was a penalty for shirt pulling. Very ridiculous how the assistant standing 25 yards away telling the ref standing 5 years away what to do. I'm looking forward to the highlights to see why it was given, as from where I was sitting it looked nothing like blocking a goal scoring opportunity

Coventry pull one back with a nice goal just before half time.

Second half is Cov all over Cardiff for the first 20mins or so. Crowd are unusually raleighing behind the home side as there's an atmosphere that we could actually win this and we don't need to play for a draw. Cardiff play the same ball over and over, kicking the ball from left defence over to far right, and then running at our left back. They probably played that move 6 times in the second half, and the last time they tried it in the 85th minute it got through and they scored.

Disappointing result for Cov, even though it was a game we were "supposed" to lose that game. We move from 7th to 9th, so are still in the top half.

Bellamy was boo'd every touch of the ball, and it was affecting his play a lot and he ended up being sub'd :joker:

Oh well, Barnsley on Saturday at home to look forward too now :blush:

[MissKittyFantastico]

I think Ma City may be contenders for the title. They've already beaten Chelsea. We wont win it. Fabregas will get injured or something and we'll be done. Man Utd though might struggle to make the Champions league. I'd p*ss myself if they didn't make it.

I don't know, it's pretty tight at the top still, we're only 8 games in and there have been some strange results already, I definitely don't think Man Utd will win this year, especially if Rooney does go. I said to Ben (30stone) that I've got a feeling about Arsenal this year and having seen your game tonight I feel it even more so. Wilshere is gonna be a star for you this year, and Fabregas is just on another level. When you play at your best I think you're the best team in the PL, plus you've still got loads of key players out injured.

[King Gizzard]

Mourinho says if Rooney became availible thenhe would want him (and he actually said that, allbeit half heartedly)

I think Spain is just what he wants, not as much media, Real Madrid are a multi national club (kind of like Man U)

[Tom]

I don't know, it's pretty tight at the top still, we're only 8 games in and there have been some strange results already, I definitely don't think Man Utd will win this year, especially if Rooney does go. I said to Ben (30stone) that I've got a feeling about Arsenal this year and having seen your game tonight I feel it even more so. Wilshere is gonna be a star for you this year, and Fabregas is just on another level. When you play at your best I think you're the best team in the PL, plus you've still got loads of key players out injured.

Man Utd have been terrible this year, coming from a Utd fan they don't deserve to win, at all, and it would be a farce if they did unless they seriously up their game. They couldn't even beat West Brom (although they're doing pretty well so far this year)

I think this year is another one for Arsenal or Chelsea, I'd put my money on Chelsea though. I think Man City will peak before Christmas and they'll drop down to around 7th place by May as they start to face the bigger teams

[DDRickyDD]

****ing hilarious aren't you.

Thanks.


Alright but you're talking crap and nobody cares.

I never talk crap.

Realism? :joker: Yet we're above them in tha table and it will stay like that? :joker: They're a poor side, once Sinclair gets crocked they're screwed.

Swansea will finish 6th and get into the play-offs's. Dunno if they will win them or not because that requires an amount of luck. Cardiff will finish 3rd or 4th.

Ben's spot on - they are poor. Blackpool were actually a decent side though not a ****e one-man team like the scum.

Blackpool got only 1 point more than Swansea. They were as good as Blackpool last season, they just got abit of bad luck and missed the Play-Off's by a single point.

[GiRTh]

I don't know, it's pretty tight at the top still, we're only 8 games in and there have been some strange results already, I definitely don't think Man Utd will win this year, especially if Rooney does go. I said to Ben (30stone) that I've got a feeling about Arsenal this year and having seen your game tonight I feel it even more so. Wilshere is gonna be a star for you this year, and Fabregas is just on another level. When you play at your best I think you're the best team in the PL, plus you've still got loads of key players out injured.We play pretty football but when it dont work we cant just get the ball down the flank into the box and have a player with the power to knock it in a Drogba or Rooney or even Torres. Chamack may be the answer but I still think we need to play people off the park to win. I still think we're very beatable.

Man City have got a HUGE squad of quality players. A player of David Silva's quality can barely get a game. They're gonna struggle to keep them all happy but I think they'll always get good results.

[GiRTh]

Man Utd have been terrible this year, coming from a Utd fan they don't deserve to win, at all, and it would be a farce if they did unless they seriously up their game. They couldn't even beat West Brom (although they're doing pretty well so far this year)

I think this year is another one for Arsenal or Chelsea, I'd put my money on Chelsea though. I think Man City will peak before Christmas and they'll drop down to around 7th place by May as they start to face the bigger teamsIf I were a Man Utd fan I'd be very concerned that two of your best players on in their mid 30's and still out performing the young 'uns. Giggs and Scholes cant last forever and if you lose Rooney? I'm not sure how well you'll do.

[MissKittyFantastico]

LANDON DONOVAN has opened the door for a return to Goodison Park on loan in January by admitting it would be difficult to turn down Everton.

The USA international enjoyed a successful three-month spell with the club last season and manager David Moyes made it clear he would love him back.

Apparently the MLS originally said that they wouldn't be allowing him to go out on loan anywhere during their off season this year but Landon has convinced them to change their mind. I'd have him back in a heartbeat, helped turn our season around last year, and he can play either as a RS midfielder or up front as striker. I'd actually love to have him full time but Galaxy will ask for too much considering he's 28, that's if they would even sell him.

[bbfan1991]

Man Utd have been terrible this year, coming from a Utd fan they don't deserve to win, at all, and it would be a farce if they did unless they seriously up their game. They couldn't even beat West Brom (although they're doing pretty well so far this year)

I think this year is another one for Arsenal or Chelsea, I'd put my money on Chelsea though. I think Man City will peak before Christmas and they'll drop down to around 7th place by May as they start to face the bigger teams

I agree so far we've been terrible:(, however theres long till end of the season... I reckon Fergie will sign a few people in January to make up for Rooney going e.g Benzema as part of the Rooney deal is a possibility:p.

As for Rooney can't fault what he has done for the club last couple of seasons but all thats happened this season is his own fault and no wonder people are turning against him, can't see him going to City no matter how much they offer either LOL.

[bbfan1991]

Glad Cardiff and Forest won yesterday:).

[Locke.]

Rooney doesn't care if Man City are Utd's biggest rivals, he'll still sign for them if he wanted to. When he was growing up he almost certainly despised Man Utd, yet when they came offering he left the team he'd supported all of his life to sign for them. So why wouldn't he do the same again, for one he isn't a Man Utd fan, City will offer more money, and City are higher in the league at the minute.

I really hope he goes to a foreign side because I don't like playing against him, and City would be unstoppable if they signed him. Chelsea having Drogba and Rooney as their partnership with Anelka and Malouda just off them would destroy anyone. And I don't think anyone else in the premiership would sign him. So hopefully Real, Barcelona, or Inter come in with an offer.

[alc09]

'CINI SIGN HIM UP! 'CINI 'CINI SIGN HIM UP!

****ing brilliant if he goes to Man City.

[King Gizzard]

He ll become the most hated footballer probably of all time :laugh: What a *****

[alc09]

A right collection of ****e on this page - here's my picks of the bunch:

Thanks.
I never talk crap.

Debatable.

We play pretty football but when it dont work we cant just get the ball down the flank into the box and have a player with the power to knock it in a Drogba or Rooney or even Torres. Chamack may be the answer but I still think we need to play people off the park to win. I still think we're very beatable.

Man City have got a HUGE squad of quality players. A player of David Silva's quality can barely get a game. They're gonna struggle to keep them all happy but I think they'll always get good results.
:joker:

I agree so far we've been terrible:(, however theres long till end of the season... I reckon Fergie will sign a few people in January to make up for Rooney going e.g Benzema as part of the Rooney deal is a possibility:p.

Just like he did when Ronaldo and Tevez left....oh wait. :rolleyes:


first going from a Liverpool team to a Manchester team, now swapping Manchester teams or maybe going Chelsea. pure madness :confused: yep you keep following the £££££££££££££ Rooney, if you're hearts not in it (which also includes loyalty) then you'll have no respect from the fans

In all fairness I don't think money has anything to do with it - United are in demise.

[GiRTh]

A right collection of ****e on this page - here's my picks of the bunch:


Debatable.


:joker:


Just like he did when Ronaldo and Tevez left....oh wait. :rolleyes:



In all fairness I don't think money has anything to do with it - United are in demise.Do you actually have anything to say or are you just gonna take the p*ss? Say something, state an opinion then watch us all tear the sh*t out of it.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Bale is a machine, we'll have to contain him on Saturday.

Had to lol at them being 4-0 after 35 minutes though :laugh:

Man Utd lucky to win by the sounds of it although I didn't see any of that game.

[bbfan1991]

Bale is a machine, we'll have to contain him on Saturday.

Had to lol at them being 4-0 after 35 minutes though :laugh:

Man Utd lucky to win by the sounds of it although I didn't see any of that game.

On the balance of play we were the better team and should have scored more than the one goal, they had a few chances but that was it and United were dominant throughout the game:).

Fergie got important meeting with David Gill in the morning to discuss what to do next with the Rooney issue, as he doesn't want the saga to keep dragging on...

[DDRickyDD]

Inter 4-3 Gareth Bale.

I agree with other posters, Man United are on the decline, their dominance is finally ending. The Glazers have put the club in 800 million pounds of debt.

[MissKittyFantastico]

On the balance of play we were the better team and should have scored more than the one goal, they had a few chances but that was it and United were dominant throughout the game:).

Fergie got important meeting with David Gill in the morning to discuss what to do next with the Rooney issue, as he doesn't want the saga to keep dragging on...

I stand corrected then Reggie :laugh: Just my mate who is an Man U fan said she was gutted after watching it because you were pretty bad :p

Get him sold, he's said he doesn't want to stay now officially so cash in on him quick before it causes too much more drama. I'd keep the ungrateful ***** on the bench until January and then boot him out the door.

[King Gizzard]

Hernandez is quality anyway, and better attitude

[bbfan1991]

I stand corrected then Reggie :laugh: Just my mate who is an Man U fan said she was gutted after watching it because you were pretty bad :p

Get him sold, he's said he doesn't want to stay now officially so cash in on him quick before it causes too much more drama. I'd keep the ungrateful ***** on the bench until January and then boot him out the door.

You guys will be getting some cash if he's sold so let the bidding war commence:). The performance was frustrating but better than the ones previously which is a positive to take from it...

Hernandez is showing lots of promise Nate indeed;).

[setanta]

On the balance of play we were the better team and should have scored more than the one goal, they had a few chances but that was it and United were dominant throughout the game:).

Fergie got important meeting with David Gill in the morning to discuss what to do next with the Rooney issue, as he doesn't want the saga to keep dragging on...

Nah, they played badly against a useless team. Look like a team that are punch drunk since all of the press exposure the club has received since the whole Rooney thing started.

[bbfan1991]

I know recent events for United on and off the pitch have been very distracting and it has peed me off but if I don't show a bit of positivity that there is light at the end of the tunnel then i'll go madder then I already am:(.

Aston Villa were at the College I go to the other day and missed the chance to get some tickets to the Chelsea game:(.

[MissKittyFantastico]

You guys will be getting some cash if he's sold so let the bidding war commence:). The performance was frustrating but better than the ones previously which is a positive to take from it...

Hernandez is showing lots of promise Nate indeed;).

Yep that's why I'm hoping he goes to City for silly money because we get 25% of any profit you make above the £25 million you paid us for him :p

That would give us a nice amount to go and buy a new striker :)

Edit: Keep the faith Reggie! I know all about finding it hard sometimes with being an Everton supporter :laugh: It's all part of the fun though.

[bbfan1991]

Yep that's why I'm hoping he goes to City for silly money because we get 25% of any profit you make above the £25 million you paid us for him :p

That would give us a nice amount to go and buy a new striker :)

Edit: Keep the faith Reggie! I know all about finding it hard sometimes with being an Everton supporter :laugh: It's all part of the fun though.


Oh yes one you're desperately in need of. I can be negative when it's needed but love to be upbeat:p.

You guys need to be more consistent against teams like Blackburn etc if more points are going to be picked up because there has been losses in those games, sometimes the Toffees might not have played well and deserved to lose but they're just as important as games against the bigger teams;).

[MissKittyFantastico]

Oh yes one you're desperately in need of. I can be negative when it's needed but love to be upbeat:p.

You guys need to be more consistent against teams like Blackburn etc if more points are going to be picked up because there has been losses in those games, sometimes the Toffees might not have played well and deserved to lose but they're just as important as games against the bigger teams;).

Yeah defo. Looks like the Yak is coming back into form, he just needs to start scoring now, he was a beast against Liverpool on Sunday :laugh: But with Beckford unproven and Saha so injury prone, £15million or so would come in very handy for the January transfer window ;) Thank you very much Rooney you gob****e :hugesmile:

Yeah again agreed, we didn't play badly the first few games, just couldn't find the back of the net, but now we are scoring I hope the wins and clean sheets will keep coming. Spurs on Saturday should be interesting, we've got Arteta, Pienaar, Jags, Osman and Heitinga all doubtful eeeeeeek.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Apparently, no matter what the result of their Europa game tonight, Roy Hodgson has been told he must resign as Liverpool manager. Frank Rijkaard is reportedly going to be announced as their new manager tomorrow.

I remember saying that it was a mistake for Woy to take the job and that he would regret it. Feel really sorry for the guy actually, he's a good manager, it just doesn't seem to be working out for him there.

Two Liverpool fans in hospital after being stabbed in Naples :shocked: Those Italians are proper *****s and the police don't help either over there.



"Two Liverpool fans were being treated for stab wounds today after violence before their team's Europa League tie in Naples.

Merseyside police said six Liverpool fans in total were attacked in the Italian city ahead of the team's game tonight against Napoli FC.

Naples police said the victims included a family of four — a mother, father and sons. The fans taken to hospital are 27 and 53. Their injuries are not thought to be life threatening. Three local men were arrested.

The attack happened shortly after 4am when the family, from Bedfordshire, were followed from a bar in the Piazza Garibaldi in the city centre. A group of between 20 and 30 men assaulted them as they walked back to their hotel. There were at least three attacks last night and police said all were linked to Napoli's hardcore Ultra fans.

Weapons including a baseball bat, three four-foot aluminium bars and a five-foot long piece of wood were recovered from the home of one of the arrested men. All three of the men being held have criminal records and one has been convicted of football-related violence and is banned from Napoli's Stadio San Paolo."

[King Gizzard]

I called Rijkaard movingto liverpool 2-3 days ago

[bbfan1991]

And how long will it take them to turn on poor Frank?:p.

[setanta]

Feel sorry for Hodgson but I could never understand why he chose to move to the club in the first place.

[Locke.]

Hodgson needs to be at a mid-table side, our expectations are too high for him.

Carragher off injured, never thought I'd say this but it could turn out to be a blessing in disguise.

And David Ngog vs Cannavaro, Ngog's going to score tonight and prove himself as a top class striker :)

[GiRTh]

Surely Frank Right-Guard isnt the answer. Give Roy some time. The man has managed Inter Milan and turned then around.

[MissKittyFantastico]

Surely Frank Right-Guard isnt the answer. Give Roy some time. The man has managed Inter Milan and turned then around.

The trouble is the fans didn't want him, the players didn't either and they've had the worst start to the season for something like 57 years? Feel terribly sorry for him and it doesn't reflect on his skills as a manager at all, was just wrong time and wrong club for him.

[GiRTh]

The trouble is the fans didn't want him, the players didn't either and they've had the worst start to the season for something like 57 years? Feel terribly sorry for him and it doesn't reflect on his skills as a manager at all, was just wrong time and wrong club for him.
Who did the fans and players want? I bet they wanted someone of the stature of Mourinho didnt they?. Liverpool fans are so deluded.