EastEnders discussion

[bbfan1991]

Nice one Ryan. Best thing you've done so far :devil:

Agreed:D, I felt Ryan's disgust towards her and Neil McDermott actually has done good with this storyline. I just hope they think more of what Ryan can do when Neil comes back from paternity leave..

Pat got on my nerves tonight:rolleyes:, throwing the accusations when she tried to frame Janine for murdering Laura and has forgotten about the Barry incident. She of all people knows what Janine is capable of..

Enjoyed the lighter scenes at Dot's, some comedy with Kat's beetrot, Shirley's impressions and the horse thing. Glad that Bianca and Phil decided to teach Connor a lesson too and also poor Jean, being Kat's babies godmother is a consolation for her beloved Stacey leaving but she's always going to feel the heartbreak of her departure:bawling:.

[Locke.]

Is Janine going out of it? Really hope she dies

[bbfan1991]

Is Janine going out of it? Really hope she dies

No:(.

Shirley had this classic of a line ''Kat Moon... when she's not puking in the gutter she's giving birth in one":joker:

[Kerry]

Wish she'd leave. Vicious little cow

[bbfan1991]

Wish she'd leave. Vicious little cow

Every soap needs their vile bitch;).

[Kerry]

Every soap needs their vile bitch;).

I know :( But God she makes me mad :joker:

[Callum]

Loved the Kat, Shirley and Ronnie scenes tonight. Shirley's line about David Attenborough made me laugh seeing as I'm a big fan of his documentaries. :laugh:

I'm actually quite looking forward to this baby storyline on NYE's. I know that sounds sick but nothing's really happening in the show at the moment, most of the storyline's have finished and everyone's in a state of limbo. Will be good to have a big storyline running again even though it will be intense viewing.

[Kerry]

I'm dreading the baby storylines. I've done nothing but bawl at soaps for weeks now!

[bbfan1991]

Loved the Kat, Shirley and Ronnie scenes tonight. Shirley's line about David Attenborough made me laugh seeing as I'm a big fan of his documentaries. :laugh:

I'm actually quite looking forward to this baby storyline on NYE's. I know that sounds sick but nothing's really happening in the show at the moment, most of the storyline's have finished and everyone's in a state of limbo. Will be good to have a big storyline running again even though it will be intense viewing.

I totally agree about the baby storyline, it's going to be shocking and heartbreaking to watch but I have every confidence Eastenders will do it justice and deal with it sensitively.. I just hope they can find a way to keep Ronnie in the show as I really like her and Samantha Womack:).

Eastenders still really needs a couple more characters in the 20-25 age group to try and fill the void now that the marvellous Stacey has left. I think Eastenders is on the up and I have confidence in Bryan Kirkwood now that Santer's storylines are done and dusted...

[InOne]

Connor needs to die, hope Phil kills him. Whitney is sort of annoying as well now, seems they don't really know what to do with her.

[Marsh.]

Glad they're finally portraying what we all knew: Phil Mitchell is too old and needs to stop with the hard man act. They've stopped the good looking women falling at his feet all the time and given him someone in his league with Shirley. Now we need a new hardman to "slap him down" and stop having everyone scared of him.

[Kerry]

Yay they all know Janines a sick bitch

[Kerry]

Anyone else find it a bit sick that Carol treats Conor like her son Billie yet sleeps with him?

[Jordan.]

Jean:(

[Kerry]

What a smiley episode........


That said, I love that side of Kat

[Marsh.]

God, is it too much to ask for a bit of happiness. I'm all for gritty and well executed drama but some lighter times are entertaining too.
They've got a good little friendship developing between Kat and Ronnie which would be good in bringing back the fun side Ronnie used to have and now it's gonna be ruined by Friday.

[InOne]

When Jean started running that bath, just though oh god...

And I was right :(

[Kerry]

I'm sick of sobbing at soaps at the moment

[Stacey.]

Seriously that was so creepy when Jean did that UGH D:

[InOne]

Also can Carol/Connor thing is so cringey. Shes not changed for like 10 years as well, remember when she used to be in it

[Ramsay]

what did jean do

[Kerry]

what did jean do

Tried to drown herself in the bath

[Stacey.]

what did jean do

Tried to drown herself in the bath D:

[Kerry]

Tried to drown herself in the bath D:

LOL snap

[Stacey.]

LOL snap

:laugh:

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

Tried to drown herself in the bath D:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l9qobyVxbV1qzzud0.jpg

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i havent even seen this yet imma watch it @ 10 on BBC3

[Marsh.]

Just been onto DS and someone just pointed out what I hadn't noticed.
When Kat and Ronnie were having a laugh about Alfie constantly fussing, Kat says:
"You wanna swap?"

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

i hate ds.

i got banned for saying billy bhatti should die

[Stacey.]

i hate ds.

i got banned for saying billy bhatti should die

:joker:

I got banned for saying Wagner was a pedo

[Fetch The Bolt Cutters]

permabanned? :amazed:

[Marsh.]

Lol. I haven't signed up there, I'm just a lurker.

Pretty funny foreshadowing though.

[Callum]

Kat is starting to grow on me again, I much prefer her less mouthy.

[bbfan1991]

Kat is starting to grow on me again, I much prefer her less mouthy.

I've always liked Kat:D, she's immense.

Poor Jean:(, she'll eventually get over Stacey leaving but the heartbreak will always be with her because Stacey was her main carer and the one person she depended on plus not being able to see her grandaughter is another reason to feel down and Sean's out there somewhere. I would love it if both returned together somehow in the future because I liked them as a family unit despite the producers not having much scenes between them.

Connor should be axed, dire character.

[bbfan1991]

Yay they all know Janines a sick bitch

Janine will go back to being good for a while then get bored as always, so predictable and Pat will go back on her decision to give up:sleep:.

[Marsh.]

Janine will go back to being good for a while then get bored as always, so predictable and Pat will go back on her decision to give up:sleep:.

True. How many storylines relating to death can they pile on Janine?
Accidental death, murder, attempted murder, natural death etc. Surely there's nothing left for her to do unless they do something drastic to mix things up. Give her a baby? (Obviously with the recent stabbing, not yet lol)

[bbfan1991]

True. How many storylines relating to death can they pile on Janine?
Accidental death, murder, attempted murder, natural death etc. Surely there's nothing left for her to do unless they do something drastic to mix things up. Give her a baby? (Obviously with the recent stabbing, not yet lol)

Janine becomes a nun?:joker:.

[Callum]

Ronnie won't be able to stay after the baby storyline, will she? When the truth is out in the open I don't know how she would be able to live in Walford when everyone knows what she's done, surely Kat wouldn't stand for that.

[bbfan1991]

Ronnie won't be able to stay after the baby storyline, will she? When the truth is out in the open I don't know how she would be able to live in Walford when everyone knows what she's done, surely Kat wouldn't stand for that.

This is Walford after all, things are forgotten like Tanya burying Max alive (pathetic storyline) and Lauren running him over so the producers could come up with a reason to keep Ronnie there. Unless Samantha Womack has decided to quit or is going due to the possible inevitable ending of Ronnie due to the storyline.

The show is in need of some more male characters, who are strong because they are lacking in this...

[Tom4784]

It might be that it goes unnoticed for years, I remember reading that it was a long running storyline so the babies might get swapped now but nothing will come of it until a few years later.

[Kerry]

Noooooooo Kat lost her first baby due to lies. She can't lose another :(

[bbfan1991]

It might be that it goes unnoticed for years, I remember reading that it was a long running storyline so the babies might get swapped now but nothing will come of it until a few years later.

Shane Richie said it would go on for 2 years..

[Marsh.]

Noooooooo Kat lost her first baby due to lies. She can't lose another :(

That's the stupidity of the storyliners at EastEnders. Most Slater sisters have been raped, and some on more than one occassion by a completely different rapist within 12 months of each other. And now Ronnie loses a baby/child every six months or so in every way possible; grown up killed in car accident, miscarriage, cot death etc.

So, they choose the two characters that probably have the worst track record with children. Some might call that clever and meaningful, I call it idiotic and repetitive. How much gurning do you reckon we'll have to put up with from the two women. Good actresses but I'm sick of watching them cry; let's see some range.

[Kerry]

Jean :bawling:

[Kerry]

LMAO @ Kat whacking Alfie :laugh2:

[InOne]

The Connor Carol thing is stupid. Only thing I don't like about EE atm :bored:

[Kerry]

It's gross. Tiff seeing them made it even worse if that was possible

[InOne]

She better just straight tell Bianca and not let it play out lol

[Kerry]

She better just straight tell Bianca and not let it play out lol

Think she'll be too traumatised to speak. I know I would be if I saw my Gran shagging a replacement son


I actually feel ill....... :joker:

[flamingGalah!]

I liked the helpline number at the end of tonights EastEnders:

"If you have seen through a letterbox your grandmother sucking a young lads big black c**k, then counsellors are online now, call 0800 696969"

[Marsh.]

I liked the helpline number at the end of tonights EastEnders:

"If you have seen through a letterbox your grandmother sucking a young lads big black c**k, then counsellors are online now, call 0800 696969"

LOL.

Can't believe the horrid greenscreen sequence with Ronnie and Heather on the tube. Are they serious? :joker:

[bbfan1991]

Kat's labour LOL, she's hilarious as ever:laugh2:.

[Marsh.]

Just realised, Ronnie's gonna be let home from hospital by tomorrow ready for the baby to die. She's premature, the baby would be in hospital at least a few days.

[bbfan1991]

Annoyed that Ronnie's happiness won't last again:(.

[Stacey.]

What's gonna happen to Ronnie? D:

[Marsh.]

Her baby dies and then she swaps it with Kat's.

[Stacey.]

Her baby dies and then she swaps it with Kat's.

Omfg D:

[flamingGalah!]

LOL.

Can't believe the horrid greenscreen sequence with Ronnie and Heather on the tube. Are they serious? :joker:

Were you watching on BBC One HD? It looked soooo bad on there! It looked as if Ronnie's head had been added onto the shot after! Just awful! Surely they could have just shown Ronnie at the tube station telling Heather...

[bbfan1991]

Caronnor make me cringe:yuk:, even worse that Tiffany starts weeing herself because of it and her sadness that he's using Whitney:shocked:.

[Kerry]

Funniest episode ever :laugh2: Shame it will be spoiled by the following storyline :(

[Kerry]

Just realised, Ronnie's gonna be let home from hospital by tomorrow ready for the baby to die. She's premature, the baby would be in hospital at least a few days.

If a baby is a healthy weight they can go home as soon as Moms ready. I went home within hours of having my daughter

[Marsh.]

Were you watching on BBC One HD? It looked soooo bad on there! It looked as if Ronnie's head had been added onto the shot after! Just awful! Surely they could have just shown Ronnie at the tube station telling Heather...

No, you'd think they'd keep away from this stuff after they've gone HD. They're obviously getting a bit too experimental, they probably thought it would be movie like lol.
It was Heather's side that made me laugh, she had a halo round her head with chunks of her hair going pixelated.

They've filmed on a real tube before, I don't know why they couldn't have done it this time. A bit random that she just runs into Heather on it anyway.

[flamingGalah!]

No, you'd think they'd keep away from this stuff after they've gone HD. They're obviously getting a bit too experimental, they probably thought it would be movie like lol.
It was Heather's side that made me laugh, she had a halo round her head with chunks of her hair going pixelated.

They've filmed on a real tube before, I don't know why they couldn't have done it this time. A bit random that she just runs into Heather on it anyway.

Yeah HD really shows stuff like that up badly. The Corrie tram crash looked hilariously fake on ITV HD (I watched it again in SD & it didn't look half as bad). Hefter wouldn't use the tube anyway, she'd go on the bus as with an Oyster card it's much cheaper & a flat rate between any two destinations, seeing as she's so skint :D

[Callum]

Loved last night's episode, it seems to finally be getting back on track again. The tube scenes with Ronnie and Heather was so cringey though, it looked sooo tacky.

[Kerry]

Kat was hilarious. What was it she said? "Wadda ya think I'm doing here, playing with the rats?" :joker:

[Kerry]

Loved last night's episode, it seems to finally be getting back on track again. The tube scenes with Ronnie and Heather was so cringey though, it looked sooo tacky.

That was terrible. Looked as realistic as Jordans boobs

[Locke.]

Some great Alfie scenes earlier tonight.. Shame there isn't gonna be any for the next couple of weeks because he is gonna be all miserable because of Ronnie :bored:

An am so sick of Carol, if I have to look at that miserable face of hers for much longer...

[Locke.]

Some great Alfie scenes earlier tonight.. Shame there isn't gonna be any for the next couple of weeks because he is gonna be all miserable because of Ronnie :bored:

An am so sick of Carol, if I have to look at that miserable face of hers for much longer...

[Marsh.]

What was it Mo said: "Get them knickers off" lol.

[Kerry]

What was it Mo said: "Get them knickers off" lol.

Something like that. An image in my head I didn't really want :laugh:

[Kerry]

I managed not to cry today. I was convinced I'd be in floods. At a guess though, that'll happen......

[Marsh.]

It seemed like lots of things were cut out because the editing felt choppy.
Good acting from Ronnie though.

[Kerry]

It seemed like lots of things were cut out because the editing felt choppy.
Good acting from Ronnie though.

She looked so sinister at the end :shocked:

[Josy]

Im not too keen on this Ronnie/Kat's baby storyline.

[bbfan1991]

Poor Ronnie:bawling:, although I don't think the episode is bad as it was made out to be before it aired by the papers etc but there was stuff edited out.

[Jords]

Ronnie was great I agree 08.

Cant wait to see what happens tonight, poor Kat + Alf!

[flamingGalah!]

You can tell where they edited out showing Kat lying in a blood soaked bed & seeing her covered in blood too... Also cut out were shots of Ronnie touching her dead babys hand...

I don't like the storyline & it is absurd that you wouldn't recognise your own baby! They don't all look alike (unless they are identical twins) :nono: :sleep:

This isn't EastEnders tackling the subject of cotdeath, simply EastEnders doing something for shock value/drama & to hit the headlines...

[bbfan1991]

Obviously it's going to affect lots of viewers but I believe Eastenders are portraying it sensitively and if this storyline manages to help someone then good.

Poor OFCOM, they were hoping for a less stressful start to 2011 then this happens:joker:.

[Josy]

Poor Kat :bawling:

[InOne]

Tonights episode was so bad, jesus. So yeah, we're meant to believe Roxy would leave her sister who is clearly very upset, for her annoying random gay mate who is banging on about some stupid kiss.

Also all these 'distractions' Alfie was having, erm you're about to check your new born kid and someone is shouting you about a CD player, like you'd actually go down. You'd obv make the baby total priority.

The baby switching doesn't wash either. If you're a new parent surely you're gonna stare in awe at your kid for hours on end, theres no way you'd mix them up.

[bbfan1991]

Poor Kat :bawling:

I know:(, I feel for Ronnie too because she is pyschologically damaged after all those bad things happening to her, the writers are to blame for not wanting the poor woman to EVER be happy.

[Kerry]

Terrible episode after a couple of great ones. Shame. I so hoped it wasn't going to happen and she'd kept her own baby. Kats scream brought tears to my eyes

[Marsh.]

I didn't like it either. The execution is all wrong and Scott Maslen's attempt at crying was awful. Hope his acting doesn't drag the others down. Sitting in the square hearing Kat scream felt a bit forced.
But I do feel better after hearing that tomorrow Kat notices the baby's not hers and screams it's not the child she gave birth to but obviously everyone puts it down to grief.
Least they're not making her out to be a complete moron.

But Kat being in and out of hospital is ridiculous. It's a crappy plot device that screams "Get her out the way for Ronnie to make the switch and then back again just in time to react to the death". It's just not having the effect the producers are going for. There's way too many glaringly obvious coincidences and conveniences. They'd have been better off with the two babies being switched in hospital or something.

[Smithy]

Im watching on BBC2

[Smithy]

Im watching on BBC3, coz I missed it earlier

Surely they'd notice the baby'll have changed clothes

[Patrick]

Quote Of 2011 [so far]

Zainab: Get off my husband you, you wicked woman!

:joker::joker::joker:


Im watching on BBC3, coz I missed it earlier

Surely they'd notice the baby'll have changed clothes

They were wearing the same thing. :hugesmile:

[Patrick]

Terrible episode after a couple of great ones. Shame. I so hoped it wasn't going to happen and she'd kept her own baby. Kats scream brought tears to my eyes

How was it terrible?

Actually yeah there was a point about 15 minutes in where I was like just thinking is this just some chance to show the characters falling over eachother drunk in a pub with a bunch of blokes shouting 'Wahhhay!' every 4 minutes.


But the ending was good.
It's a soap, It's meant to be dramatic, it's hardly terrible.

[Jords]

I didn't like it either. The execution is all wrong and Scott Maslen's attempt at crying was awful. Hope his acting doesn't drag the others down. Sitting in the square hearing Kat scream felt a bit forced.
But I do feel better after hearing that tomorrow Kat notices the baby's not hers and screams it's not the child she gave birth to but obviously everyone puts it down to grief.
Least they're not making her out to be a complete moron.

But Kat being in and out of hospital is ridiculous. It's a crappy plot device that screams "Get her out the way for Ronnie to make the switch and then back again just in time to react to the death". It's just not having the effect the producers are going for. There's way too many glaringly obvious coincidences and conveniences. They'd have been better off with the two babies being switched in hospital or something.

Glad that Kat notices the difference, surely this will mean she will notice Ronnie has her baby then? Cant help thinking wont Roxy be suspicious too??? After trying not to let her see 'James'.

I think that was the point, to build up if the swap will happen or not and when will they eventually find out the baby is dead.

[bbfan1991]

Glad that Kat notices the difference, surely this will mean she will notice Ronnie has her baby then? Cant help thinking wont Roxy be suspicious too??? After trying not to let her see 'James'.

I think that was the point, to build up if the swap will happen or not and when will they eventually find out the baby is dead.

I don't know why but I have a suspicion Shirley will find out because recently her, Kat and Ronnie have been close..

[Kerry]

Kat'll kill her. Ronnies done for. Jack will abandon her, as will Roxy as a mother herself. Her only hope would be her own mother.

[Marsh.]

I don't think they'll abandon her. They'll have the obligatory screaming and shouting from Kat. Jack will be disgusted and then Ronnie will have a full on breakdown and him and Roxy will have her sectioned. That's what I think anyway, then she'll come back six months later and the writers will think up another scenario in which she'll lose a child. Knowing this show anyway.

I think that was the point, to build up if the swap will happen or not and when will they eventually find out the baby is dead.

I meant the writing is too coincidental. The timing of the death as Kat is rushed into hospital, Charlie leaving the baby alone, Ronnie making the switch and then Kat making it back in time to react to the death, and Jack pulling up as Ronnie makes her way over to take the baby back.

I mean obviously they need to use plot devices for them to tell a story but there's too many obvious/implausible ones.

[Jords]

I seriously think they should keep it a secret for years. What Archie did to Ronnie about Dannielle is what Ronnie could do to Kat with Tommy.

So Ronnie would become the thing she hates the most, her dad.

[Marsh.]

Apparently the reveal has been filmed so it should be out within a couple of months.

[Smithy]

They were wearing the same thing. :hugesmile:

Ohhh :p

[Josy]

Why does the stupid snow have to start messing my sky up when Eastenders is due to start!!!!!!!!!! :mad:

[Marsh.]

Patrick shuts up shop, Bianca breaks down and Syed randomly offers to cover for her. Are they not used to death, it's Albert Square. And Christian needs to get over himself, it was barely a kiss.

[Kerry]

Great acting tonight. Well done Jessie

[Callum]

Anyone notice on New Year's Eve a lot of kids were left without babysitters? Heather didn't have one for George, neither did Jane and Ian for Bobby Beale and Oscar Branning was left alone too. :shocked:

[bbfan1991]

Rumours are that EE have already filmed the reveal, I heard that they could reveal the truth in 6 weeks but the effects last for 2 years because it's something that can't be brushed under the carpet or forgotten like some stuff in soapland...

[Callum]

Yeah reveal has defo been filmed and compaints for this storyline have reached 3,400 already

[bbfan1991]

Yeah reveal has defo been filmed and compaints for this storyline have reached 3,400 already

I feel sorry for people who've suffered this but people have known for quite a few months that Eastenders were going to do this storyline so were warned in advance.. meh 3,400 complaints isn't a big deal if 9-10 million people are still tuning in.

If they don't like it then simple thing is to not watch, even if they complain to OFCOM which is their right of course they ain't going to pull the plug on the storyline.

[Smithy]

I don't get why people complain, it's not like you're being forced to watch :bored:

[Marsh.]

My mum and nan have been complaining about the storyline and the show in general (about how depressing and repetitive it is) but would never dream of officially complaining to ofcom. Even they said the complainers need to get a life. There's more important things to be doing. If you don't like it switch off.

[Callum]

Reveal has been confirmed to have not been filmed, I was wrong. I really hope this storyline doesn't go on for years. :(

[bbfan1991]

Reveal has been confirmed to have not been filmed, I was wrong. I really hope this storyline doesn't go on for years. :(

Perhaps what Shane Richie said about 2 years is true then:shocked:.

[Jords]

Reveal has been confirmed to have not been filmed, I was wrong. I really hope this storyline doesn't go on for years. :(

I hope it does!

[bbfan1991]

I still really like Ronnie;).

[Patrick]

I MISSED IT AGAIN! :bawling:

******ing mum, She made me do the dishes for myself and my brother's plates, because I was older.

I was like 'YOU AGEIST BITCH' and then her Boyfriend had to calm me down and I was like 'NO! I'll do my own but I'm not doing his it goes against everything I believe in, You Discriminating Minge Bag!'

Eventually I did do the dishes but I was like 'Is it 10? I have to watch EastEnders' and she goes 'No it's not yet'

When it BLOODY WAS!

Now I've missed it, what happened tonight?
And iPlayer's quality is bollocks compared to BBC HD.

[Patrick]

Reveal has been confirmed to have not been filmed, I was wrong. I really hope this storyline doesn't go on for years. :(

Kat finds out in like a week I heard.

[Patrick]

Does it piss anyone else off that Jessica Walsh is bloody tagged on this thread? :rolleyes:

[Josy]

I MISSED IT AGAIN! :bawling:

******ing mum, She made me do the dishes for myself and my brother's plates, because I was older.

I was like 'YOU AGEIST BITCH' and then her Boyfriend had to calm me down and I was like 'NO! I'll do my own but I'm not doing his it goes against everything I believe in, You Discriminating Minge Bag!'

Eventually I did do the dishes but I was like 'Is it 10? I have to watch EastEnders' and she goes 'No it's not yet'

When it BLOODY WAS!

Now I've missed it, what happened tonight?
And iPlayer's quality is bollocks compared to BBC HD.

Eastenders doesn't get shown on Wednesdays.

[Patrick]

I thought today was Thursday :( The week's going slow.

[Scarlett.]

Eastenders doesn't get shown on Wednesdays.

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[King Gizzard]

Some woman has left the show because of the baby story or something according to my twitter. think her name is Sam

[Scarlett.]

Some woman has left the show because of the baby story or something according to my twitter. think her name is Sam

Sam Janus, who plays Ronnie

[InOne]

So Ronnie has def quit? :/

[Scarlett.]

Front page news
http://news.sky.com/sky-news/content/StaticFile/jpg/2011/Jan/Week1/15881273.jpg

[InOne]

Hopefully Kat and Alfie will be able to enjoy baby Tommy now then

[Scarlett.]

Aye, I hope so, its a horrible storyline IMO

[InOne]

I have to admit, I found it really uncomfortable to watch :/

[bbfan1991]

:(I don't blame her but I really like Sam Womack and the character of Ronnie, the storyline is hard to watch but I think the actors have done a good job with it despite the complaints etc.

[Kerry]

Good on Samantha Womack. Stupid storyline beyong belief

[Locke.]

I ****ing hate the new Ben

[Kerry]

Kat :( Jessie is playing this so well.

[Josy]

I ****ing hate the new Ben

Me too!

[Josy]

I wish Glenda would just piss off.

[flemin]

Did anyone else lol at kat: 'You ain't my dad!' :blush2:

[Callum]

The new Ben is really annoying, I wish he was never brought back, the character is pointless.

Jessie Wallace gave another amazing performance tonight, she is so believable as a mother who's lost her child, she's gotten better since her return. Still not fond on the storyline though, Ronnie has gone past the point of forgiveness now.

[Marsh.]

Thank god they didn't have Charlie screech: "Yes, I aaam"

But all this buzz about Sam quitting. I've seen it on 4 different shows today it's ridiculous. Isn't it possible that Sam told the producers she didn't want to continue past her current contract so part of why they wrote the storyline was as her exit as opposed to her quitting because of it.

And I wish Anne Diamond would go away. One appearance, giving her opinion in one interview would be fine but she's everywhere banging on about it.
Very sorry to hear she had to suffer through her own child's death but why keep bringing it up. If it offends and upsets her so much, then don't watch it.

[Josy]

EastEnders to shorten cot death plot as complaints pass 6000

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/06/eastenders-complaints-cot-death

[InOne]

Jessie did a great job tonight. Still far too depressing though :(

Yeah and Ben needs to die or something, the actor looks ridiculous

[Patrick]

Good on Samantha Womack. Stupid storyline beyong belief

Jesus Christ, if you honestly hate it that much then turn off!

[Patrick]

Jessie did a great job tonight. Still far too depressing though :(

Yeah and Ben needs to die or something, the actor looks ridiculous

Maybe he'll die in Easter :love:

[Patrick]

EastEnders to shorten cot death plot as complaints pass 6000

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/06/eastenders-complaints-cot-death

Complainers - Sad bastards with nothing else to do, go work the 7-8 Shift and that'll take your mind of EastEnders for Christ sake.

Samantha - Unprofessional bint who should be fired from the show never mind walking out.

Brian Kirkwood - ******ing coward who gave into the complainers. Go back to Hollyoaks you mess.

[Kerry]

Jesus Christ, if you honestly hate it that much then turn off!

So you keep saying...

[Patrick]

So you keep saying...

I could easily say the same to you seeing as you constantly moan about how upsetting and stupid the storyline is, yet here you are.. still watching the show.

[Kerry]

I could easily say the same to you seeing as you constantly moan about how upsetting and stupid the storyline is, yet here you are.. still watching the show.

It'd still be shoved in my face whichever way I look. You can't avoid it. Here, the news, the papers, the radio, websites....

And I'll watch what I damn well like. It's there to be discussed good or bad. Stupid if I just posted about the stuff I like all the time. You don't. Infact all you do is whinge

[Locke.]

I wouldn't bother, Patrick.. it is like talking to a brick wall

[Jords]

People are so over-reacting.

[Braden]

It'd still be shoved in my face whichever way I look. You can't avoid it. Here, the news, the papers, the radio, websites....


Yeah, but it's mostly in the news for it's complaints. There's no essential details in the news, the papers etc... which should make you upset about the situation.

[Patrick]

It'd still be shoved in my face whichever way I look. You can't avoid it. Here, the news, the papers, the radio, websites....



It's not ******ing Swine Flu.

People are so over-reacting.

Well said Jordy.

[Stephanie]

i don't even find it that hard to watch. dunno why people are complaining for, it's pathetic. if you don't like it - switch off.

[Marsh.]

Everyone's over reacted. I hated the idea of the storyline and still do but at the same time it's a fictional television show, it isn't real and when it gets to points were I hate it I can change the channel.
But why are people banging on about Sam leaving because of the storyline?
Maybe, she had already quit. The storyline was created as her exit storyline, and with all the complaints and the fact they're shortening the storyline means that Sam's time on the show has also been cut somewhat shorter so that's why they only just announced it.

[Patrick]

i don't even find it that hard to watch. dunno why people are complaining for, it's pathetic. if you don't like it - switch off.

Another post well said.

The only thing I find hard to watch is Alfie not being funny and cheerful anymore, that's it.

Baby James fans should think of it like this, in 3 years time he could be the new face for Triple Velvet after gaining so much support on such a big soap.

The storyline will be over soon anyways, They need to bring back ZsaZsa and make her turn lesbian and that will take people's minds of it.

[Kerry]

It's not ******ing Swine Flu.



Well said Jordy.

And the need for swearing was?

[Kerry]

I said the storyline was ridiculous btw. Which it is. As soon as the inquest/autopsy happened they'd know it's not her baby. Absolutely stupid

[Scarlett.]

This whole baby swap thing is spiraling out of control
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/221640

[Jords]

It is without doubt the nastiest, tawdriest, most degrading soap in TV history.

L.M.F.A.O.

[Beastie]

I have seen clips of it. I feel sorry for Ronnie. She has wanted a baby for a while and with Jack. She felt depressed that Jack has had other babies with other women but that it wasn't as simple for Ronnie to get pregnant. Now that she has had her baby, he has unfortunately died.

Eastenders are copying off Footballers wives with this baby swapping storyline ;)

[Scarlett.]

I hate it when the press does this, its pathetic

[Jords]

Incest: Dying mother Barbara Owen enjoys a passionate deathbed kiss with her son before crudely licking her lips.

That happened??? :o Disgusting!

[Jords]

Eastenders are copying off Footballers wives with this baby swapping storyline ;)

I remember that! Ahh Footballers Wives. :love:

[Kerry]

*wonders if Peggy will come back pregnant with Jacks child*

[Jords]

*wonders if Peggy will come back pregnant with Jacks child*

:joker:

[flamingGalah!]

Another post well said.

The only thing I find hard to watch is Alfie not being funny and cheerful anymore, that's it.

Baby James fans should think of it like this, in 3 years time he could be the new face for Triple Velvet after gaining so much support on such a big soap.

The storyline will be over soon anyways, They need to bring back ZsaZsa and make her turn lesbian and that will take people's minds of it.

So people are not allowed an opinion that differs to yours?? Right oh...

And swearing shows an overall lack of intelligence Patrick... :nono:

[Beastie]

This will all pass and be forgotten about. I think Ronnie has stressed out over the complaints and that. That she has now decided to leave.

[Jessica.]

My cousins little son died when he was a few weeks old and her and her other kids were reminded of it by EE and it was quite distressing. :/ I felt so sad for her but really, I think it is good for EastEnders to raise awareness of such issues.

[Callum]

I don't understand how people can say everyone is over reacting. Some mums lose their babies to cot death and believe it or not they are unhappy with this storyline! Okay some people are jumping on the bandwagon with this, that I agree with but some people are genuinely upset and distressed by it. None of the complaints have been about the cot death plot, in fact that has actually been praised, it's the swap element which is causing the controversy. It is sick to see a woman take someone's baby, not caring one bit about the grief she's causing it's parents. I know she's ill but still she knows what she's doing. In real life when babies are snatched, the parents never see their baby again, this storyline is different in that eventually the baby will be reunited with Kat and Alfie. It's just so unrealistic, I've never heard of a "baby swap" in real life and it's ruined what could have been a real hard hitting plot (cot death). But that being said, I personally have no problem watching the scenes, I am and will always be a fan of EE and I think the acting in this storyline has been fantastic.

[Marsh.]

I'll agree with the article about the sensational, desperate attempt at ratings with a very unrealistic (and upsetting) baby swap. But,

But how often does your everyday life involve murder, prostitution, incest, rape, paedophilia, homosexual affairs, torture, gang fights, drug addiction, alcoholism or armed robbery?

Do they not report stories involving all of the above all of the time?
Not a single individual's everyday life, but those horrid things are happening all the time in the real world. And even if they didn't Coronation Street, Emmerdale, Hollyoaks and the majority of TV is as guilty of it as Eastenders. That article is just jumping on the bandwagon and trying to sound intelligent.
And aren't they themselves being offensive with the 'homosexual affairs' comment? Wouldn't 'affairs' in general be apt. What difference does the sexuality make?

Worse, the bereaved mother is portrayed as an immoral madwoman when in fact she deserves sympathy.

And that's a silly comment. Ronnie isn't being portrayed as a villain 100%. She's been going mad for the past two years.
And as for 'immoral'. Well it is immoral isn't it, that's why they're complaining?

“It has upset a lot of mums and dads who have been through the worst nightmare a parent can endure and stayed sane, sensible and responsible.”

Not surprised it upsets them, it's bound to. But i'm sure there are a lot of things other than a TV show (which they shouldn't watch if they're offended anyway) which reminds them of the tragedy everyday.

And also where does Anne Diamond get the idea that the show is trying to show that every woman who loses a child loses her senses and would swap the dead baby for their neighbours live one. Again, that relates to the fictional story of Ronnie Mitchell.

[BOOSH]

Apparently they've had to change it now???

[Jords]

Apparently they've had to change it now???

Yeah, could conclude as early as April now.

Ronnie today when Kat came in was awful! Kat must have felt she was the cause and Ronnie had to keep 'her' baby away.

[Callum]

Ronnie was so harsh tonight to Kat, I really have no sympathy towards her. Really felt for Kat when she asked to hold the baby which is really her's. Can't wait for this storyline to be over in all honesty, it's depressing.

[bbfan1991]

Kat and Alfie:bawling:, I know what Ronnie's done is awful and i'm supposed to dislike her but I still like her;).

[Marsh.]

I thought the acting was great from the four characters (even Shane Richie, surprisingly).

[Patrick]

We need to get Fatboy to join in the storyline, Maybe he can be the baby's real father.

That would brighten it up.

[spitfire]

My cousins little son died when he was a few weeks old and her and her other kids were reminded of it by EE
Are you saying that they forgot about it until this episode of EE?

[Patrick]

Are you saying that they forgot about it until this episode of EE?

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[Patrick]

My cousins little son died when he was a few weeks old and her and her other kids were reminded of it by EE .

Well then tell her not to watch it, problem solved.

[Jords]

LOL at it being the most complained about storyline ever, deary me.

[Callum]

Shane Richie and Jessie Wallace have really shone in this storyline. Bet all the people who were dreading their comeback and slating them for the 2004/2005 ratings decline era are eating their words now.

[Patrick]

Shane Richie is just a legend though, I love how he's always the same in anything he does on telly, as he is playing Alfie.

[bbfan1991]

Shocking Whitney spoiler

The Daily Mirror reports that 18-year-old Whitney - Bianca Butcher's step-daughter, played by Shona McGarty - will become a £50-a-time hooker after a row with her family.
Whitney was previously the victim of child abuse by Bianca's former partner Tony King. Scriptwriters are collaborating with Comic Relief on the storyline, which will highlight the sexual exploitation of young women.


I actually think this will be interesting and i'm glad that EE aren't giving in to the OFCOM brigade, bet they'll be ringing up about this next:rolleyes:. This kind of thing has been in the news recently so hopefully it will help raise more awareness.

[Patrick]

Shocking Whitney spoiler

The Daily Mirror reports that 18-year-old Whitney - Bianca Butcher's step-daughter, played by Shona McGarty - will become a £50-a-time hooker after a row with her family.
Whitney was previously the victim of child abuse by Bianca's former partner Tony King. Scriptwriters are collaborating with Comic Relief on the storyline, which will highlight the sexual exploitation of young women.


I actually think this will be interesting and i'm glad that EE aren't giving in to the OFCOM brigade, bet they'll be ringing up about this next:rolleyes:. This kind of thing has been in the news recently so hopefully it will help raise more awareness.



I seriously wish people would stop talking about EastEnders as if it's a charity fund-rasier or something to raise awarness for every issue under the sun.

But yeah anyways, It sounds good and I heard it leads to her getting pregnant aswell.

[seanraff07]

Shocking Whitney spoiler

The Daily Mirror reports that 18-year-old Whitney - Bianca Butcher's step-daughter, played by Shona McGarty - will become a £50-a-time hooker after a row with her family.
Whitney was previously the victim of child abuse by Bianca's former partner Tony King. Scriptwriters are collaborating with Comic Relief on the storyline, which will highlight the sexual exploitation of young women.


I actually think this will be interesting and i'm glad that EE aren't giving in to the OFCOM brigade, bet they'll be ringing up about this next:rolleyes:. This kind of thing has been in the news recently so hopefully it will help raise more awareness.

Sounds pretty interesting, bit better than how EE has been recently, i'm much more into Corrie at the moment, still never miss an episode of either though.

[bbfan1991]

I seriously wish people would stop talking about EastEnders as if it's a charity fund-rasier or something to raise awarness for every issue under the sun.

But yeah anyways, It sounds good and I heard it leads to her getting pregnant aswell.

There was a rumoured gang rape storyline, perhaps it happens to her?:shocked:.

[RichardWells]

Another cheery storyline for EE lol.

[Callum]

Read that spoiler the other day. Not fussed on it personally, been done loads of times and can see it being the kind of storyline which is focused on a lot for about 2 weeks and then it's dropped completely and never mentioned again. Whitney is so unlikeable now as well though so it'll be interesting to see if they can save her character.

[Josy]

No Eastenders tonight :bawling:

[Smithy]

It's on @ 8 here.... :conf2:

[Callum]

^ Same :conf:

[Josy]

Oh fgs this happened the last time too, its not on here because of the scottish cup :bored:

[Smithy]

Haha

[Callum]

Tonight's ep was rather boring

[InOne]

Was rubbish. Connor and Carol are so cringey :bored:

[Jords]

Was rubbish. Connor and Carol are so cringey :bored:

This, such a naff storyline.

[Jords]

And theyve made Whit slaggy :/

[bbfan1991]

Jean's back already:D.

[bbfan1991]

Jodie and Poppy PMSL what a conversation:laugh2:.

[Marsh.]

^ I know. It sounds like it was written for a sketch show.

And Jords, Whit's always been slaggy.

[bbfan1991]

I like the Darren/Tamwar friendship:D.

[Niamh.]

Jodie and Poppy PMSL what a conversation:laugh2:.

lmao they're hilarious! I wish they'd end this baby swap story line though

[bbfan1991]

Jodie: Weren't it cunning innit:D.

[bbfan1991]

I still can't help liking Ronnie:blush:.

[Ramsay]

that was ****e

[Niamh.]

OMG that's not it is it? she'll just give the baby back I bet

[Niamh.]

I still can't help liking Ronnie:blush:.

poor Ronnie I wish they'd give her a break, who wouldn't crack after losing 3 kids :/

[bbfan1991]

OMG that's not it is it? she'll just give the baby back I bet

That wasn't the original episode they were going to show, since they've been forced to end the storyline quick theres been stuff that we've obviously missed..

[Niamh.]

That wasn't the original episode they were going to show, since they've been forced to end the storyline quick theres been stuff that we've obviously missed..

is that actually the end of it then?

[InOne]

So the next episode she'll explain and then it will be just everyone dealing with that?

[Saph]

yay babys back!

[bbfan1991]

poor Ronnie I wish they'd give her a break, who wouldn't crack after losing 3 kids :/

I don't condone the swap, her actions are inexcusable but Ronnie has a mental illness and always on the verge of a mental breakdown because wanting to be a mother defines her and thats been took away a few times plus Archie raping her and his sick interest in her no wonder the poor womans at the end of her tether but it's the producers fault in never wanting her to be happy:(.

[Niamh.]

I hope it's the end, I found the story very unsettling tbh

[InOne]

It's ridiculously unrealistic too, pointless misery

[Niamh.]

Eastenders need a bit of happiness sometimes, it's too unbalanced

[bbfan1991]

is that actually the end of it then?

No well Ronnie don't actually leave till April I think it is so the truth is definetly coming out, due to the complaints etc unlike some people wishing they would do this EE can't pretend as if nothings happened and edit it all out like memory loss:rolleyes:.

[Niamh.]

No well Ronnie don't actually leave till April I think it is so the truth is definetly coming out, due to the complaints etc unlike some people wishing they would do this EE can't pretend as if nothings happened and edit it all out like memory loss:rolleyes:.

so she hasn't really given Tommy back now then?

[InOne]

Well she obvs has you just saw it lol Next ep she will tell them properly

[Niamh.]

Well she obvs has you just saw it lol Next ep she will tell them properly

yes but she hasn't said I swapped the babies, Kat could just hand him back again like and say thanks for letting me hold him, it'd be a soap thing to do

[Locke.]

If Jody's mate wasn't so fit I would hate her.

And I'm guessing Jack is going to just walk into the pub and take the baby back in the first minute of the next episode.

[InOne]

yes but she hasn't said I swapped the babies, Kat could just hand him back again like and say thanks for letting me hold him, it'd be a soap thing to do

I highly doubt it D: lol

[Kerry]

I can't see that being the end and Tommy being back. They'll just say Ronnies deranged or something though I really hope it is the end

Poppy and Jodie :laugh:

[Josy]

They must have cut a few bits out tonight, there was pictures last week that showed Kat carrying the coffin into the church, the Jody and Poppy conversation must have been the most pointless EE scene ever :bored: it was probably a rush job to replace the scenes that got cut.

[Kerry]

They must have cut a few bits out tonight, there was pictures last week that showed Kat carrying the coffin into the church, the Jody and Poppy conversation must have been the most pointless EE scene ever :bored: it was probably a rush job to replace the scenes that got cut.

They've made a boo boo thats for sure

[Jords]

Jodie and Poppy LMAO :') 'Yeah.. I read that.' :laugh:


Cant be cut this short surely!?

[Kerry]

Jodie and Poppy LMAO :') 'Yeah.. I read that.' :laugh:


Cant be cut this short surely!?

Can't see it though this is just making Ronnie look worse and worse

[flamingGalah!]

Of course that isn't Ronnie giving Tommy back to Kat, she simply said "Take him" as Kat wanted to hold him the other day & Ronnie wouldn't let her...
It's to make you THINK she's handing him back to her... Just like when she tried telling Roxy that James was Tommy by saying "It's Tommy" & Roxy assuming she meant it eas Tommy's death that was upsetting her...

Obviously the more harrowing scenes of Kat clutching the coffin were cut (thankfully) & replaced with that rubbish with dozy bint & her mate...

[Kerry]

Of course that isn't Ronnie giving Tommy back to Kat, she simply said "Take him" as Kat wanted to hold him the other day & Ronnie wouldn't let her...
It's to make you THINK she's handing him back to her... Just like when she tried telling Roxy that James was Tommy by saying "It's Tommy" & Roxy assuming she meant it eas Tommy's death that was upsetting her...

Obviously the more harrowing scenes of Kat clutching the coffin were cut (thankfully) & replaced with that rubbish with dozy bint & her mate...

I agree. They'll definately drag it out some more. I wish they wouldn't. I'm sick of hearing about it now

[flamingGalah!]

I agree. They'll definately drag it out some more. I wish they wouldn't. I'm sick of hearing about it now

Was confirmed on Daybreak this morning too that it wasn't the end of the storyline...

[Barbie]

They cut scenes and replaced it with that stupid Jodie and her mate. Was ridiculous, i thought i was watching a bit of the only way is essex, so obviously out of place

[InOne]

Why did they make the scene so bad, I mean surely they could've come up with something better. All they were doing was repeating what the other one said

[flamingGalah!]

Why did they make the scene so bad, I mean surely they could've come up with something better. All they were doing was repeating what the other one said

Because it was done at the last minute, probably only within the last couple of days, was awful...

[Niamh.]

Of course that isn't Ronnie giving Tommy back to Kat, she simply said "Take him" as Kat wanted to hold him the other day & Ronnie wouldn't let her...
It's to make you THINK she's handing him back to her... Just like when she tried telling Roxy that James was Tommy by saying "It's Tommy" & Roxy assuming she meant it eas Tommy's death that was upsetting her...

Obviously the more harrowing scenes of Kat clutching the coffin were cut (thankfully) & replaced with that rubbish with dozy bint & her mate...

Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well, I hope I'm wrong though, I hate this story :/

[Marsh.]

I can't believe people didn't realise it was a fake reveal.
They always do at least two fake reveals before a storyline climaxes. Like during an affair storyline someone will confront the cheater angrily with an "I know". Cue the duff, duff.
Then in the next episode they start rabbiting on about something else.

[InOne]

It was stupid though. Didn't really make sense the way they just whisked the baby off

[Kerry]

Who the hells this stupid Poppy bint? Trying to lighten the mood with those two is turning the show into a laughing stock

Was a bit teary when Charlie left :( That bloody slow music always gets me!!!!!

[bbfan1991]

I liked the Poppy and Jodie scenes:blush:.

Going to miss Charlie:(, so glad he got Julia's Theme though...

EE needs to bring in Fat Elvis:joker:.

Can't wait to see Bianca's exit now after reading Inside Soap today, all i'll say is I hope everyone turns on vile Carol:mad:.

[bbfan1991]

Plus I hope Connor is axed, he's dire. Erinze Kene i'm surprised to hear does quite a bit of Theatre work outside EastEnders and is doing well with it:).

[flamingGalah!]

I can't believe people didn't realise it was a fake reveal...

Err, I did... :xyxwave:

How hilarious was the final scene tonight though, we are supposed to believe that was Walford East tube station?!? :joker: It looked like somewhere very suburban with all the trees in shot etc... They could have at least picked a station which actually looked like it could be in their location... :rolleyes:

[Scarlett.]

lol indeed, this is the staion they used
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/e/ed/East_Finchley_north.JPG

and that's meant to be here
http://underground-history.co.uk/images/walford02.jpg

xD

[flamingGalah!]

Is that East Finchley?

[Scarlett.]

I think so

[Locke.]

Glad Charlie has left he was annoying.

Hoping Poppy is going to be a main character.. anyone know?

[flamingGalah!]

Did Charlie actually even say where he was going?? I mean he decided to leave, packed one suitcase & was off on the tube in the space of about half an hour... It's his bloody house ffs & what about all his stuff?! Very silly, especially as Kat ran after him & basically forgave him & told him she loved him, he had no reason to still leave! :rolleyes:

[Ramsay]

Did Charlie actually even say where he was going?? I mean he decided to leave, packed one suitcase & was off on the tube in the space of about half an hour... It's his bloody house ffs & what about all his stuff?! Very silly, especially as Kat ran after him & basically forgave him & told him she loved him, he had no reason to still leave! :rolleyes:

i think he said to mo hes going to lynne's

[flamingGalah!]

i think he said to mo hes going to lynne's

That must have been when my pizza turned up :D

I wonder how they are going to explain his absence when Tommy is returned?

[InOne]

I can't believe a Gilf is the hottest woman in EE at the moment

Glenda :lovedup:

[Niamh.]

I can't believe a Gilf is the hottest woman in EE at the moment

Glenda :lovedup:

Phil Mitchell is disgusting though:yuk: and the state of Shirley

oh also I've been meaning to say I told you so:tongue:

[InOne]

Phil Mitchell is disgusting though:yuk: and the state of Shirley

oh also I've been meaning to say I told you so:tongue:

:bored:

Silly EE

[Kerry]

Glenda made me feel ill tonight

Anyone else think Kat looks prettier without make-up?

[bbfan1991]

Phil and Glenda:yuk:, can't wait until the fabulous Shirley finds out and dishes out her wrath:D. Although as a Phirley fan they have to get back together!

I agree about Kat looking better without the make up:).

Caronnor makes me cringe...

[Niamh.]

lmao at your name merges Reggie!

and hhhmmmm Kat, I reckon if she went somewhere inbetween it would be best

[bbfan1991]

lmao at your name merges Reggie!

and hhhmmmm Kat, I reckon if she went somewhere inbetween it would be best

Kalfie:love:.

[Kerry]

Connor and Carol are awful. Cos I know she views him as a son substitute so it's pretty sick

[InOne]

Carol isn't even fit. It's really unrealistic that he'd be in 'love' with her.

[Niamh.]

Carol isn't even fit. It's really unrealistic that he'd be in 'love' with her.

maybe she's great in bed:eureka:

[bbfan1991]

She has a veneer that makes milk curdle:joker:.

[Marsh.]

About the tube station, I think we should just be thankful they didn't go back to greenscreen for the exit. Charlie stepping onto thin air to Julia's Theme would have been quite the scene.

[Kerry]

May I ask, Julias theme - I know what it is (the slowy music thing that makes me sob) but why is it called Julias theme?

[Scarlett.]

About the tube station, I think we should just be thankful they didn't go back to greenscreen for the exit. Charlie stepping onto thin air to Julia's Theme would have been quite the scene.

lmao I finally found the Heather/Ronnie tube scene today, it was hilariously badly green screened xD

[Kerry]

lmao I finally found the Heather/Ronnie tube scene today, it was hilariously badly green screened xD

Oh that was terrible!! I think there was a car scene too recently. Bloody awful