EastEnders discussion

[Kerry]

Loving the new thread title :laugh:

:joker:

Looking forward to watching Michael terrorize everyone again

He's creepy

[Kerry]

PMSL slow forum's made it look like I've read Locke's mind :joker:

[Kerry]

Oh FFS it's moved now

Stoopid thing

[Locke.]

Does this thread always take ages to load for anyone else? (and no not just when the forum is running slow, every single time I click on it I have to wait about 30 seconds)

[Maia]

The thread title :joker: Amazing scene that was.

[Marsh.]

It seems that within the last six months or so that you have to quit or be axed to get a storyline in Eastenders, lol.

[Kerry]

Does this thread always take ages to load for anyone else? (and no not just when the forum is running slow, every single time I click on it I have to wait about 30 seconds)

Not always but it has been. See above. Just made me look a right dooberry

[Marsh.]

What's made you look a dooberry?

[Kerry]

What's made you look a dooberry?

It posted all weird. One minute Lockes comment was under mine. The next it was above :joker:

[InOne]

Hope this Whitney thing turns out to be good, it does look it

[Callum]

Yeah, I think this is the big South End week.

[Callum]

Good episode tonight! I like it when they film on location, all the storylines look good too apart from the Heather/Shirley one. Looking forward to seeing how to Dot/Rose story progresses especially.

[InOne]

Fatboy really annoyed me tonight for some reason lol He's just a tad cringey at times, especially when he was talking to Rob

[Locke.]

Fatboy :worship:

One of the best characters in it at the minute

[InOne]

He's good most of the time, I just find him a bit full on :joker:

[Locke.]

He gets beat up by Rob soon doesn't he?

[Firewire]

Tonight's episode was good. Looking forward to the rest of the week. Glad it's not revolved around Tanya atm.

[Callum]

I loved when Heather complained about her asthma when Dot and Shirley started smoking, how Dot and Shirley just looked at each other and then it went to a shot of both of their arms sticking out the window with their cigarettes. :laugh: I know EE is doom and gloom for the majority of the time but you can't deny it does have it's comedy moments too.

[Kerry]

He gets beat up by Rob soon doesn't he?

Think it's the other way around :(

[InOne]

No it's Rob who punches him I think, so Ryan comes to help

[Kerry]

No it's Rob who punches him I think, so Ryan comes to help

and the rest :devil:

[InOne]

Pretty good ep. I expected Ryan to like maul Rob when he got there but Rob seemed to almost get the better of him. It's good to see Kim having screentime but her plot was a tad pointless

[bbfan1991]

Pretty good ep. I expected Ryan to like maul Rob when he got there but Rob seemed to almost get the better of him. It's good to see Kim having screentime but her plot was a tad pointless

The tackle was funny:joker:. I know what happens but keeping quiet.

Good to see Fats sticking up for Whitney:).

Glad Hev and Shirl made up. Dot gets on my nerves but I like Rose and her son. Andrew? Anthony?:joker:

Agree that Kim's storyline was over quick but she does need more screentime and storylines like Denise. It was good to see her serious side and they should show it a bit more but keep the comedy too.

[Callum]

Good episode tonight, this week has made me wish they would film on location more often. It's nice to have a change of scenery and I've found I've enjoyed it a lot more than usual this week too. Bit predictable to make Rose Andrew's mother, why is it we can never have a new character with no links whatsoever to the Square? I am loving Rose from what we've seen so far though, I think she could become a really great character in time.

I hope Ryan survives, but I've got a feeling either him or Rob will die. Haven't read any spoilers who wouldn't know who.

[Marsh.]

I know I'm a day late but I'm officially a Kim fan after yesterday's episode.
The shot when she stands up behind the counter carrying the bottles of vodka and says "I clean it up, after the ad break" or something had me giggling.

[Firewire]

Kim's amazing! <3 Although her story was pretty pointless, just a filler this week.

I love on-location episodes! Been great this week! But Rose has some wrinkles on her neck...

[Kerry]

I think I'm the only person who doesn't like on-location stuff

[Locke.]

Bit unrealistic like Ryan would absolutely murder him :joker:

Good ending though

[Iceman]

I thought it was dreadful :o OMG they fall 20 ft into water.....

[Locke.]

The fight with fatboy was poor though, they could have at least made it a bit more tense and let Fatboy throw at least one punch

[Iceman]

Yeah the whole episode was poor I thought.

[Callum]

I know I'm a day late but I'm officially a Kim fan after yesterday's episode.
The shot when she stands up behind the counter carrying the bottles of vodka and says "I clean it up, after the ad break" or something had me giggling.

That was hilarious, really glad they've kept her around. :laugh: She was only meant to do a week's worth of episodes initially.

[flamingGalah!]

They should have had fat Heather on the pier at the same time (gourging herself on ice cream/candyfloss/toffee apples/chips/sweets/crisps etc...) then they could have pushed her over too... Her being fat & having asthma etc.. would mean she would drown :xyxwave:

[InOne]

They should have had fat Heather on the pier at the same time (gourging herself on ice cream/candyfloss/toffee apples/chips/sweets/crisps etc...) then they could have pushed her over too... Her being fat & having asthma etc.. would mean she would drown :xyxwave:

Erm, nice...

[Locke.]

No surprises you're an ex digital spy member :idc:

[Callum]

They should have had fat Heather on the pier at the same time (gourging herself on ice cream/candyfloss/toffee apples/chips/sweets/crisps etc...) then they could have pushed her over too... Her being fat & having asthma etc.. would mean she would drown :xyxwave:

Charming! I've never got the hate for Heather, she's not a great character but she's not the worst either by a long means.

[flamingGalah!]

Erm, nice...

Yes, I thought so...

No surprises you're an ex digital spy member :idc:

Yes Digital Spy is full of over sensitive EastEnders fans too :xyxwave:

Charming! I've never got the hate for Heather, she's not a great character but she's not the worst either by a long means.

Again, thanks! I cannot stand Heather, I wont apologise for that... I find her the most pathetic & pointless character in EastEnders & by the way she was created for ridicule (her surname is Trott ffs!) & her own mother called her 'Pig'... She gets these 'comedic' storylines that are simply as funny as having piles. So yes, I hate the character & would LOVE for them to kill her off...

[bbfan1991]

Heather is alright but don't diss Shirley FG:D:nono:.

What is the point in Mandy Salter coming back if she's only going to be there for a year? Unless they decide to keep her on after.

[Kerry]

Heather is alright but don't diss Shirley FG:D:nono:.

What is the point in Mandy Salter coming back if she's only going to be there for a year? Unless they decide to keep her on after.

Presume they'll have to see how the character is taken to

[Callum]

I thinks she will turn out to be

Lola's mother

[Patrick]

Kim's amazing! <3 Although her story was pretty pointless, just a filler this week.

I love on-location episodes! Been great this week! But Rose has some wrinkles on her neck...

:joker::joker::joker:

[Kerry]

I thinks she will turn out to be

Lola's mother

Yeah, a few people think that

[InOne]

Bored of all the estranged family members coming back :bored:

[Firewire]

I also don't like that all new characters are related to someone on the square. We need a new family.

[bbfan1991]

Michelle Ryan is NOT returning to Walford;).

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/scoop/a337514/eastenders-denies-michelle-ryan-return.html

[Kerry]

Seemed a bit of a non-episode to me tonight. Maybe it was too much Ian :laugh:

[Jords]

Mandy seems fun :amazed:

[Locke.]

Ian is amazing :joker:

Is Ryan gone for good by the way, or will he be coming back?

[Kerry]

I can never see Ian as anything other than Phil Mitchels bog brush

[Kerry]

Ian is amazing :joker:

Is Ryan gone for good by the way, or will he be coming back?

Left I think though obviously with an opening to come back at some point

[InOne]

Rob's death wasn't done too well I thought, it all seemed a bit quick and then Ryan makes that dodgy entrance stopping her throwing the bracelet thing in the sea

[Kerry]

Ryan turning up and grabbing her arm was pure cheese

[Kerry]

Poor Kat :( (again!)

[Callum]

The constant Kat/Alfie misery is just too much. I love the set up of Dot/Cora/Rose in Dot's house though, they had some funny scenes tonight. :laugh:

[Kerry]

Yeah it was a nice lighter side :) The Dotty house

[Kerry]

Right so I'm guessing - Rose now works at the surgery. Rose see's Tanyas records. Rose tells Tanyas mum??

[InOne]

Finding EE a bit of a chore to watch atm, Kat is really annoying and just sucks the life out of the show

[Doogle]

Boring storyline. :bored: Time to abuse Kat now Ronnie is gone

[Callum]

Finding EE a bit of a chore to watch atm, Kat is really annoying and just sucks the life out of the show

Total mistake bringing her and Alfie back, both characters have been ruined. Kat more so but Alfie is now a pain to watch too.

[Marc]

Woman doesn't catch a break

[Saph]

"call me when your finished with ugly!" I love her already :D

[Kerry]

Poor Carol. Hope Vanessa tells her the truth

[Barbie]

God this show has got annoying, annoying characters like Vanessa and Jodie, and now Eddie's little clan. Kat and Alfie are getting tiresome and that Mandy is starting to bug me too.
When is Bryan Kirkwood who caused this mess going to leave!

[Barbie]

God this show has got annoying, annoying characters like Vanessa and Jodie, and now Eddie's little clan. Kat and Alfie are getting tiresome and that Mandy is starting to bug me too.
When is Bryan Kirkwood who caused this mess going to leave!

[Kerry]

It's not at it's best atm no :/

Interesting to see an almost pleasant 'duff duff' moment tonight though. I wonder how things will pan out now...... (feel free to spoiler me) :D

[bbfan1991]

I'm liking Michael and Anthony:).

Kat and Alfie are just sucking the life out of the show. Mandy seems fun, Whitney should get with Fatboy.

[Kerry]

I like Fatboy but not Whit :/

[bbfan1991]

I cannot stand Carol, moany, whining, vile woman:D.

I feel sorry for any bloke that goes with her!

[Kerry]

I like how Carol is family orientated but not much else about her :laugh:

[bbfan1991]

True, although I can't stand Lauren and Tanya at all.

Lauren is such a hypocrite, her mother and dad are certainly no saints but she lectures them about affairs and there is she carrying on with Ryan and sleeping with her supposed friends boyfriend but they were drunk...

[Jords]

Whitney is 1 of my favourite soap characters :love:
Shes been involved in so much and has never dried up for a period.

And Michael is surprisingly a great character, thought hed be a typical EE bad boy with not much substance but hes definitely 1 of the most interesting.

[Jords]

Anthony > Tyler

[Kerry]

Not sure where Michael can go now though? Without hate? :laugh:

[Jords]

Not sure where Michael can go now though? Without hate? :laugh:

Im sure some sort of rivalry between him/Anthony/Tyler will happen, and Frankie Moon exists whenever s/he turns up.

[Locke.]

Michael is amazing :joker: My mum seems to think Eddie is going out if it, is that true?

[Kerry]

Oh yeah. Think Frankie's a woman??

[bbfan1991]

Frankie is a woman, there were rumours that Emma Rigby (who played Hannah in Hollyoaks) was going to play her. I think EE will bring the character into the show soon, as we do need some more new characters...

[Jords]

:D

Is there any relations known? Sister/GF/Cousin?

[bbfan1991]

:D

Is there any relations known? Sister/GF/Cousin?

Sunshine Moon? I'm guessing:joker:

[Jords]

Who is Sunshine Moon? :amazed:

[Jordan.]

Whitney is 1 of my favourite soap characters :love:
Shes been involved in so much and has never dried up for a period.

And Michael is surprisingly a great character, thought hed be a typical EE bad boy with not much substance but hes definitely 1 of the most interesting.

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpkj3uqnxb1qj5cxmo1_250.gif

[bbfan1991]

Who is Sunshine Moon? :amazed:

Get the joke?;)

Where did you find her!!!

[Jords]

http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lpkj3uqnxb1qj5cxmo1_250.gif

:joker::joker::joker::joker::joker:

[bbfan1991]

http://saltirenation.com/files/pictures/eastenders-heather-300.gif

[Jords]

:laugh3:

[bbfan1991]

http://i49.tinypic.com/21jvs00.gif

:joker:

[bbfan1991]

http://i52.tinypic.com/3581jlt.jpg

SHANNIS!!:love:

[Jordan.]

http://saltirenation.com/files/pictures/eastenders-heather-300.gif

Poor Heather and her traumatic life

[Callum]

Michael is amazing :joker: My mum seems to think Eddie is going out if it, is that true?

Yeah, he finishes filming soon.

[Callum]

Someone over at DS summed up my feelings for EE perfectly at this current time, Bryan Kirkwood has ruined it.

The new producer has totally wrecked this programme, now with an all new cast and stories that are unbelievable and have no suspense. I knew that an ex Hollyoaks producer was a mistake. Soon it will be a UK Beverley Hills 90210 and that is not what any of the fans of the show want from our Eastenders. Too late I think to put the genie back in the bottle it's just so not worth watching any longer and I was once such a die hard fan. I just can't get over how bad the casting and stories have become in the last 12 months...

[InOne]

Poppy was pretty decent on tonights ep, showed she can actually act. Should give her more stuff like that to do

[Dilligaf]

I think EE has been on a downward spiral for a long time now. The production quality is getting worse every year. The dynamics of the show are being thrown around way too much.
Back in the day (i actually remember the first episode :blush2: ), we had long running plots that were believable and well acted. All that has been replaced with cheese and rushed scripts now.

[Callum]

I think EE has been on a downward spiral for a long time now. The production quality is getting worse every year. The dynamics of the show are being thrown around way too much.
Back in the day (i actually remember the first episode :blush2: ), we had long running plots that were believable and well acted. All that has been replaced with cheese and rushed scripts now.

Getting rid of Bryan Kirkwood and axing some of the scripwriters would be a step in the right direction

[Kerry]

Tanya would not be allowed to leave the hospital in that state. Certainly not alone

[Kerry]

Hmmmm so now Lauren will know. Then Tan will swear her to secrecy. Then Lauren will tell someone.........

[bbfan1991]

Hmmmm so now Lauren will know. Then Tan will swear her to secrecy. Then Lauren will tell someone.........

Obvious Tanya will do something to annoy Lauren and she'll just go off at one and reveal it in front of everyone:sleep:.

[bbfan1991]

Poppy was pretty decent on tonights ep, showed she can actually act. Should give her more stuff like that to do

Yeah Rachel Bright showed she can act when given a good script:). I liked seeing fiesty Poppy, she's a good friend to Jodie, who is fab too:D.

I like the fact they are two light hearted characters.. don't understand the hate for them, maybe they should just be vile like everyone else?

[bbfan1991]

They need to hurry up and pair Whitney up with Fatoby.. she's making the same mistake again going with Tyler, when he's clearly suited to Jodie.

[Callum]

Monday 17 October
Kat is riddled with guilt but this soon turns to panic when Mark arrives at The Vic, in the week's first visit to Albert Square. She gets rid of him, but it's clear Mark isn't going to give up.

When Amira arrives in Walford with Yasmin, Masood and Tamwar are delighted to meet her. However, Syed finds it hard to stay away from his daughter and he heads over to see her with Christian in tow – but Amira is adamant she doesn't want Christian anywhere near Yasmin.

Elsewhere, Fatboy finds it hard to see Whitney and Tyler together and Ian tries his best to impress Mandy.

Kat is played by Jessie Wallace, Mark by Chris Simmons, Amira by Preeya Kalidas, Masood by Nitin Ganatra, Tamwar by Himesh Patel, Syed by Marc Elliott, Christian by John Partridge, Fatboy by Ricky Norwood, Whitney by Shona McGarty, Tyler by Tony Discipline, Ian by Adam Woodyatt and Mandy by Nicola Stapleton.

By the sounds of things Kat is going to have an affair with this Mark guy :bored: Totally ruined this character since her return

Future storyline spoiler

[InOne]

This Ben stuff is awful at the moment, infact all of it is :bored: Can't even usually bothered to watch the full eps now

[Callum]

Yeah EE is in a really bad place at the moment, wish Bryan Kirkwood would leave, since he's been in charge the show has turned into another Hollyoaks.

[InOne]

Even HO is better at the moment :joker:

[Redway]

I don't often post on here anymore - and still won't - but there is no way I can sit down and continue to see my favourite soap decline.

EastEnders is absolutely appalling at the minute. EastEnders has never been this bad before. Even in the not-so-good periods, such as 2004 and 2006, I still had a reason to watch. I've actually switched off. I don't know how anyone can sit through that drivel.

Since March 2010, EastEnders has been on a downward spiral. For me, it become almost unwatchable from late November 2010. EastEnders has had fundamental problems since at least 2006 and they were very evident under Kate Harwood (during 2006 - 2005 was a good year for EastEnders, but I believe that to be down to something else, which I won't go into just yet). The problems were still there under Santer but he was able to mask those problems, so they weren't very apparent to your typical viewer. In spite of all this, Santer still made EastEnders exciting and worth watching. At the minute, there's nothing in EastEnders to look forward to. (Tanya's cancer storyline had potential but has been damaged already; Ben's 'coming out' storyline has just been a piece of piss, IMO.)

Everyone who claims to be a 'fan', or even a 'viewer, of EastEnders deserves much better than the nonsense that is currently being served out.
Yes, the problems have been here since at least 2006 but at least Santer made EastEnders 'decent'.

Talk to anyone and they're saying, "Oh, EastEnders is dreadful at the minute" and comments to such degree. Most people I know have, at the moment, given up on EastEnders. Why aren't the press laying into EastEnders? 2004 and 2006 were much better than anything served out in 2011 so far and they're the years that were hammered by the press. In fact, back then, the press was just seeking blood with EastEnders. I think part of the problem was that both the ITV soaps, Emmerdale and Coronation Street, were in excellent shape from at that period and EastEnders wasn't exactly brilliant during that period (although, as previously stated, I'd much rather have that than anything now).

EastEnders feels so disjointed at the minute.

At the minute, I can't actually be bothered saying what's wrong with EastEnders, because there's too much wrong with it.

Why can't the BBC see that the, rather overwhelming, majority isn't happy with the show, as of present?

For that very reason, I urge everyone - who doesn't think EastEnders is doing well at the minute - to complain. Hopefully, if more people begin to complain, the BBC will start to take notice. https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/

I also notice that the ratings are significantly down from this point last year. There's no excuse.

Bryan Kirkwood needs to go now before any more damage is done to the show.

I worry for EastEnders, I really do.

[Patrick]

Thought the thread title was about me. :lovedup:

[Redway]

Thought the thread title was about me. :lovedup:

:laugh:

[Patrick]

Anyway, Kirkwood needs to go - I haven't been 'EXCITED' for EastEnders since Diedrick left - I use to be so pumped for the episodes and the storylines and now I feel like I HAVE to watch it. :idc:

It's horrible.

The only good point EastEnders has had lately was at the end of Summer there, when it went to South End, to the sea side and the show took on a different feel and Rob died and that.

That was excellent.

Then it went back to Albert SQ :yuk: It's the Masood storyline that is dragging out, and The Moons being everywhere - I'm just fed up with it.

We need some fresh faces and some better/bigger storylines.

[Callum]

I think Bryan Kirkwood is the worst EP EastEnders has ever had, even when Kate Harwood was in charge it was never this bad. I never look forward to an episode these days, I'm just watching out of habit.

[Iceman]

Also they've completely under-used Mandy since she's been back by having her with Beale....they should have made it that she and Janine wer scheming friends.....and that they knew each other while Janine was gone from the square....

[Redway]

Anyway, Kirkwood needs to go - I haven't been 'EXCITED' for EastEnders since Diedrick left - I use to be so pumped for the episodes and the storylines and now I feel like I HAVE to watch it. :idc:

It's horrible.

The only good point EastEnders has had lately was at the end of Summer there, when it went to South End, to the sea side and the show took on a different feel and Rob died and that.

That was excellent.

Then it went back to Albert SQ :yuk: It's the Masood storyline that is dragging out, and The Moons being everywhere - I'm just fed up with it.

We need some fresh faces and some better/bigger storylines.

EastEnders wasn't brilliant under Santer but it was at least decent, getting interesting from time to time. We can't have much longer, though, can we? :o

If we do, I will actually go down to Elstree Studios and make a complaint. :laugh:

[Iceman]

I think Bryan Kirkwood is the worst EP EastEnders has ever had, even when Kate Harwood was in charge it was never this bad. I never look forward to an episode these days, I'm just watching out of habit.

Ive given up lol I read the storylines and the only one im interested in is Jo Joyners Cancer portrayal.

[Callum]

Also they've completely under-used Mandy since she's been back by having her with Beale....they should have made it that she and Janine wer scheming friends.....and that they knew each other while Janine was gone from the square....

I never watched when Mandy was originally on the show but I've seen clips of her on YouTube and read her bio on Wiki and gather she used to be a bit of a bitch, like Janine is. Totally altered her character since her return, you don't get the feeling she's a bitch at all really, I find it hard to believe Ian would want to be involved with her also. Bryan Kirkwood is good at ruining characters though I've noticed, just look at Kat and Alfie.

[Iceman]

I never watched when Mandy was originally on the show but I've seen clips of her on YouTube and read her bio on Wiki and gather she used to be a bit of a bitch, like Janine is. Totally altered her character since her return, you don't get the feeling she's a bitch at all really, I find it hard to believe Ian would want to be involved with her also. Bryan Kirkwood is good at ruining characters though I've noticed, just look at Kat and Alfie.

That's what I mean, going from her past and bringing her back as a friend for Janine (I mean she has NO friends) would have made perfect sense, she could have done some of the storylines Janine does to give Janines character a break.

[Patrick]

I've sent a long complaint out to the BBC.

I urge you all to do the same.

[Redway]

I think Bryan Kirkwood is the worst EP EastEnders has ever had, even when Kate Harwood was in charge it was never this bad. I never look forward to an episode these days, I'm just watching out of habit.

Of course it is. Louise Berridge wasn't that bad a producer. People forget that she took over in June 2002 and, at that period, EastEnders was still riding strong; it was only in 2004 that her work began to flop and that was due to a series of unfortunate events, e.g. Leslie Gratham's sex antics, cast members falling ill, etc; and that year (2004) may not have been great but it was still all right.

Kathleen Hutchison developed Den's murder storyline and that storyline made 2005 an absolutely seminal year for EastEnders. True, the over-reliance on that storyline was no way to run a soap but it was one of the best in EastEnders' history. It was drawn out properly, it was gripping from start to finish (excluding Chrissie's stupid exit [such a legendary character deserved much better]), everyone was talking about it and the ratings were very high.

Kate Harwood was in charge for most of that year but I believe that to be because she was relying on Kathleen's success. She flopped in 2006 - big time. It really showed when all the big characters, e.g. Chrissie, Sharon, Dennis, Kat, Alfie, etc, departed towards December 2005/January 2006. So I would argue that Kate Harwood was very bad. However, we still had stuff going on that year (2006), so it wasn't all that bad.

Bryan Kirkwood, on the other hand, has been much worse than any of the above producers. He's no excuse.

[Redway]

I've sent a long complaint out to the BBC.

I urge you all to do the same.

Cheers, Paddy. ;)

I never watched when Mandy was originally on the show but I've seen clips of her on YouTube and read her bio on Wiki and gather she used to be a bit of a bitch, like Janine is. Totally altered her character since her return, you don't get the feeling she's a bitch at all really, I find it hard to believe Ian would want to be involved with her also. Bryan Kirkwood is good at ruining characters though I've noticed, just look at Kat and Alfie.

Oh, I agree. Kat was always a favourite of mine from September 2000 - December 2005. Bryan Kirkwood has plagued misery on her and turned her into a miserable, wicked little cow. Kate Harwood did the exact same with Pauline in 2006. That said, is there any likeable character in EastEnders, at the moment? No. (Perhaps excluding the likes of Tiffany and Max [the latter being ruined by another ridiculous affair].) I'm not the biggest fan of Alfie but he's become a huge caricature. Bryan Kirkwood's characterisation is extremely poor.

[Redway]

I think Bryan Kirkwood is the worst EP EastEnders has ever had, even when Kate Harwood was in charge it was never this bad. I never look forward to an episode these days, I'm just watching out of habit.

Of course it wasn't. You've got to remember, Callum, that Kate Harwood took over in March 2005 and 2005 was a great year for EastEnders (despite the over-reliance of a particular storyline/a group of characters). It was only in 2006 when her work started to heavily deteriorate. That said, Den's murder storyline carried 2005 - and turned it into such a great year - and she was relying on Katchleen Hutchison's success; at least it was still somewhat watchable in 2006.

I honestly don't know how you do it, Callum. I really don't. You can actually sit through half an hour of that? :o

Let's hope Bryan leaves soon.

[Callum]

I honestly don't know how you do it, Callum. I really don't. You can actually sit through half an hour of that? :o

Let's hope Bryan leaves soon.

Like I said it's just out of habit these days, I'm still watching because I'm just hoping it will get better, I don't want to give up on it, I've been watching it since I was a child but at this rate I won't be sticking with it much longer.

[Redway]

Like I said it's just out of habit these days, I'm still watching because I'm just hoping it will get better, I don't want to give up on it, I've been watching it since I was a child but at this rate I won't be sticking with it much longer.

Don't give up on it. Hopefully, the show will sort itself out, like it did in '07, following a pretty poor year. It will get better. I'm positive.

Anyway, I've actually tuned out. I'll start watching again when I know Bryan Kirkwood's gone.

[Redway]

I think what EastEnders needs is another Mathew Robinson period. Now I'm young so I wasn't really into EastEnders back in the '90s, but I have done a lot of research and I know, for a fact, that EastEnders was really struggling from 1996-1998. The ratings were falling, the press were laying into EastEnders and many people just weren't satisfied.

Mathew Robinson, however, came in and totally changed EastEnders, from what I believe. He got rid of all the deadwood, introduced interesting storylines and characters and just gave the show a makeover. By mid-1999, EastEnders was on top form, leading to another golden period, so everything was all set for John Yorke.

This is one of those cases. The new producer, unfortunately, has years' worth of mess - only made worse - to clean up. It will get better, though.

[Kerry]

Can only hope they have big plans (or better plans) for Mandy. At the minute her role seems to be super-soaker woman

[Redway]

Can only hope they have big plans (or better plans) for Mandy. At the minute her role seems to be super-soaker woman

Trust them to mess that up, too.

[Redway]

Not expecting anything decent, tonight.

[Callum]

Apparently Phil kicks Kat and Alfie out of the Vic tonight :sleep:

[Redway]

Apparently Phil kicks Kat and Alfie out of the Vic tonight :sleep:

:sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

[Redway]

When this thread was first created, EastEnders was actually good! :(

[Kazanne]

Bring back Max.

[Jordan.]

"shes hot no way did he pull her" :laugh3:

[Locke.]

When will they realize that Phil is just not believable as a big hard man, he is small fat and bald, Alfie would have sent him flying over the bar in real life

[Redway]

When will they realize that Phil is just not believable as a big hard man, he is small fat and bald, Alfie would have sent him flying over the bar in real life

I agree about Phil's 'hard act' not being very convincing anymore, but Alfie? :conf2: Someone like Max or Jack could knock him out, yeah, but not Alfie. He's a big softie.

[Locke.]

Alfie is the hardest man in soap

[Redway]

Alfie is the softest man in soap

That's better.

[Redway]

So-so episode tonight. In the soap's state, one of the better episodes, IMO.

[bbfan1991]

Phil chucking everyone out:joker:. TPTB need to give more depth to him and have Ben admit the truth!

Glad Kalfie are away from the pub.

[Callum]

Spoilers for October 21 episode

Lauren is worried about her mother and calls an old face to come back and help. However, things don't go to plan and Tanya is left feeling vulnerable.

Realising the severity of her mother's situation, Lauren is determined to let her hair down but ends up in a compromising situation with Tyler.

Meanwhile, Whitney is apprehensive about her relationship with Fatboy going from friends to boyfriend, but Fatboy is thrilled. However, it's clear that Tyler is extremely jealous.

Also today, Syed suspects that Ben has a crush on Christian, and Pat reveals her worries to Norman.

I reckon it's either Max or Greg, part of me is hoping it's the return of Jane though.

[Kerry]

I reckon Max

[Redway]

Amira comes back next week.

[Redway]

Until tonight, never knew how bad an episode could be.

Absolutely dreadful. IMO, EastEnders is worse than anything we had in 2006. I was laughing all the way through. That's how bad it was. Tyler and Anthony are stupid characters, played by appalling actors. I don't know how that episode was allowed to be broadcast on our screens. Terrible.

0.18/10.

[Callum]

Until tonight, never knew how bad an episode could be.

Absolutely dreadful. IMO, EastEnders is worse than anything we had in 2006. I was laughing all the way through. That's how bad it was. Tyler and Anthony are stupid characters, played by appalling actors. I don't know how that episode was allowed to be broadcast on our screens. Terrible.

0.18/10.

They are definitley part of the problem, need to be axed soon.

[Kerry]

Terrible exits. Terrible episode

[Callum]

I haven't watched it yet, is it really that bad?

[Kerry]

I haven't watched it yet, is it really that bad?

Worse

[Callum]

Was indeed a terrible episode. Bad acting all around and bad writing, this show is getting worse by the week.

[Locke.]

Thought it was pretty good myself

[Kerry]

Now what for Michael?

[InOne]

Vanssa's acting was terrible in it. And some of it didn't really make sense

[Redway]

Let's hope tonight's episode is better than yesterday's edition. Not expecting anything decent, though.

[Redway]

Some terrible acting from the stupid Moons, tonight. Michael, Tyler and Anthony need to pack their bags and flip off. Anyway, better than yesterday's travesty, but still poor.

3/10.

[Redway]

Vanssa's acting was terrible in it. And some of it didn't really make sense

Zoe Lucker can't really act, can she? She was all right in Footballers' Wives, though. She's still better than Tyler, Anthony and Michael.

[Redway]

These threads are so dead, these days. :(

[Jarrod]

Omg amira!

[Redway]

Flip it. Just missed her. :(

Will catch up at 10.

[Callum]

Jo Joyner is a great actress, she deserves more recognition at the award shows.

[Callum]

The returnee for Tanya has been revealed

EastEnders' Greg Jessop makes a brief return to Albert Square next week after Lauren begs him to come back and see Tanya.

Struggling under the pressure of keeping Tanya's cancer secret and fearing that her mother isn't coping, Lauren (Jacqueline Jossa) makes a desperate phone call to Greg - claiming that Tanya is "lonely" and would love to see him.

Later, at the salon, Tanya is stunned to see Greg (Stefan Booth) and they soon head back to Max's place for a chat.

Tanya (Jo Joyner) initially makes an excuse for Lauren's concern and her own tired appearance, but Greg can sense that something else is wrong so she finally tells him the truth.


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As Tanya opens up over her recent ordeal, it's clear that she's finding it a great help to confide in someone who knows her well. However, Lauren's plan starts to backfire as Greg seems unable to cope with the news - making Tanya feel worse.

When Greg starts making excuses to leave, it seems that Lauren may be forced to continue carrying the burden of Tanya's illness on her own. Will Greg really walk away for good, and if so, how will Tanya and Lauren react?

EastEnders airs these scenes on Friday, October 21 at 8pm on BBC One.

Plus some surprising Ian and Mandy news:

EastEnders fans received some surprising news at the weekend when it was revealed that Ian Beale will pop the question to returnee Mandy Salter in a forthcoming storyline.

While Ian and Mandy have appeared to just have a friendship so far, next week we see that the Walford businessman is hoping for more as he gets jealous when the mischievous blonde starts flirting with Jack Branning (Scott Maslen).

Desperate to impress Mandy (Nicola Stapleton), Ian comes home in a flash sports car which captures her attention, but his success with Mandy doesn't last for long as they later have an argument and he crosses the line by telling her to "get upstairs", implying that she's there for sex.

Furious with Ian (Adam Woodyatt), Mandy immediately goes on the rampage by smashing up his car with a golf club and throwing paint over the bonnet, even after he confesses that the vehicle is rented and not purchased!

In the doghouse following her explosive outburst, Mandy goes to stay with Pat (Pam St Clement) and begins to see Ian in a new light when the Albert Square matriarch tells her about his softer side.

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At the same time, Ian has a heart-to-heart with Alfie (Shane Richie) about his woes with Mandy, declaring that he's now through with women for good. However, Alfie gives his friend some much-needed advice by admitting that his life with Kat isn't nearly as perfect as people might expect.


When Alfie explains that sometimes the perfect partner only exists in the imagination, his words strike a chord with Ian, who's later in a calmer mood when Mandy pays him a visit to apologise.

Ian and Mandy soon open up to each other, with both admitting that they just want to be loved. Ian then leaves Mandy stunned by asking her to marry him. Will Mandy accept?

[Kerry]

Ugh, saw the second one coming

[Redway]

OK episode. Amira's return made the episode a 6.5/10. All right enough.

[Kerry]

AT LAST - Zainab sees the light!!!

[Redway]

Didn't watch it. What happened?

[Kerry]

Doesn't matter. She's blinded again

[InOne]

I can barely even be bothered to watch the full eps anymore lol like turn off like 10 mins before or something

[Callum]

It really is terrible, I wish it was doing bad in the ratings so the BBC would realise that something needs to change. The only people who are enjoying it are the chavvy teens, the general feeling among the forums is that it's absolute rubbish at the moment.

[Kerry]

Did anything actually happen in tonights episode? Yet another non-ep to me

[Barbie]

Did anything actually happen in tonights episode? Yet another non-ep to me

Good point, i actually cant remember what happened yesterday :S

ooh, Fatboy kissed Whitney, and Lauren made her mum tea, Ian and Alfie had a chat and Kat got mad...

[Kerry]

Good point, i actually cant remember what happened yesterday :S

ooh, Fatboy kissed Whitney, and Lauren made her mum tea, Ian and Alfie had a chat and Kat got mad...

That was it I think. I think the duff duff moment was Ian proposing but I'd lost interest and was doing something else.

[Maia]

They've ruined Fatboy by hooking him up with Whitney :(

[Redway]

Late October and all we're getting is filler, and not even engaging filler.

[Callum]

Late October and all we're getting is filler, and not even engaging filler.

A new EP is the only way forward

[Kerry]

They've ruined Fatboy by hooking him up with Whitney :(

I wanted it to happen I admit but it won't last

[bbfan1991]

I'm delighted Whitney and Fatboy got together:), they are so well suited and very streetwise.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/scoop/a347302/eastenders-yusef-faces-a-backlash-spoiler-pictures.html

Masood's and Yusef storyline about to get interesting..

Apparently this storyline is going to end with a fire. I've got a feeling Yusef will start it and he will end up killing his own daughter but will have been targetting the Masood's.

[Kerry]

I'm delighted Whitney and Fatboy got together:), they are so well suited and very streetwise.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/scoop/a347302/eastenders-yusef-faces-a-backlash-spoiler-pictures.html

Masood's and Yusef storyline about to get interesting..

Apparently this storyline is going to end with a fire. I've got a feeling Yusef will start it and he will end up killing his own daughter but will have been targetting the Masood's.

:shocked:

[bbfan1991]

Poppy, Jodie and Norman have all been axed.

[Kerry]

Poppy, Jodie and Norman have all been axed.

No loss (IMO)

[dannyboy]

Hmm, what a waste of Poppy and Jodie. They're hardly central to the show but it doesn't seem they've really been given a chance. In a relentlessly gloomy show, it was nice to see some characters who were occasionally quite fun. Why do they get booted yet the immensely irritating Whitney and Fatboy linger like a rash. Must say Tyler's growing on me lately though :D get rid of his brother though, he's deadwood personified!

[InOne]

Stopped watching this pretty much now, nobody that interesting in it

[Redway]

Don't think I'll be tuning in until Christmas, now.

[Locke.]

What on earth are they doing getting rid of Poppy and Jodie

[Jords]

Was Duncan just a plot device to get Ben's gay storyline started or is he returning?

[Jords]

Poppy, Jodie and Norman have all been axed.

Jodie :lovedup:

Im gutted, but she has no real point I guess.

[Kerry]

They have no point now (Poppy and Jodie). They had little to start with tbh

[Callum]

The show has gotten a lot better recently, I don't know if it's different writers or what but it feels 10x better than the tripe we were getting about a month ago.

[Redway]

What on earth are they doing getting rid of Poppy and Jodie

They were crap.

[Kerry]

They were crap.

:joker:

[Locke.]

That was ****ing brilliant :joker:

[Maia]

That was ****ing brilliant :joker:

I know LOL :laugh3:

[Locke.]

Christian hasn't left for good has he?

[Firewire]

Nope, he's returning next month, I think.

[Kerry]

Christian's line tonight was hilarious but I can't remember the exact phrase :bawling:

Something along the lines of "Bi (buy) one, gay - summat"

[Redway]

:joker:

Wasn't trying to be funny. They're just actually crap.

[Callum]

Good episode last night, in fact it's been pretty good all week. The Jodie/Poppy stuff annoyed me but at least they're leaving next week. Really loving Jane being back :D

[Locke.]

I don't get it, who is that in the photos Phil is getting?

And I want Jodie and Poppy to stay :bored:

[Callum]

A man who died in the car lot fire back in 1994. Phil torched the arches and it's all coming back to haunt him.

[InOne]

Is EE worth getting back into yet? :suspect:

[Callum]

Is EE worth getting back into yet? :suspect:

Yeah it's gotten better recently.

[Kerry]

I nodded off watching it tonight :laugh:

[Callum]

Who loved EastEnders on Children in Need last night? :D I thought it was one of their best they've done.

[Firewire]

I loved it! Shona (Whitney), Rita (Roxy), John (Christian) and Polly (Rose) sounded amazing!

For anyone who missed it:

GvazIC7vsFQ

[Locke.]

Masood was brilliant in every way possible

[Firewire]

It was so funny. The facial expressions were priceless.

[Callum]

I found Cora really funny at the start :laugh:

[Jords]

That was brilliant :joker:

Whitney and Masood :worship:

[flamingGalah!]

I found it all quite cringeworthy, as usual :joker:

Maybe it will be better next year without Hefter...

['Conor]

I haven't watched EastEnders properly in about 2/3 years, but i want to get back into it because Pat is leaving!

[Firewire]

Well if you start on Monday it's a big week, 5 episodes.

[Kerry]

Who are the other Branning sisters? Carol said she had three brothers and two sisters. Who are they? The sisters? :conf:

[Locke.]

Not sure, think it's the sisters

[Kerry]

Not sure, think it's the sisters

I was just clarifying it was the sisters I wanted to know. Not the brothers :hmph:

[Callum]

Who are the other Branning sisters? Carol said she had three brothers and two sisters. Who are they? The sisters? :conf:

Suzy and April Branning

[Kerry]

Suzy and April Branning

Oh yeah, Suzy. Can't recall an April

[Bollo]

Jack Branning,April Branning, Carol Jackson/Branning, Derek Branning, Suzy Branning and Max Branning are all the brothers and sisters I think

[Kerry]

Has this April been in it?

[InOne]

Carol is awful :bored:

[Kerry]

Carol is awful :bored:

I don't mind her. She's just there :laugh:

[Bollo]

Has this April been in it?

Yes in the nineties but only for a year or so I think she was a bit of a ditzy blonde:

1835

[Kerry]

Yes in the nineties but only for a year or so I think she was a bit of a ditzy blonde:

1835

oh, thanks. Can't remember her but I was on/off viewer then :)

[Kerry]

Don't think I'm going to like the Derek addition :/ Too cliché

[Callum]

I don't think I'm going to like him much either. There are too many Brannings as it is on the Square, there's no need for another.

Apparently he also

sleeps with Rainie in one of next weeks episode. They're related ffs. :yuk:

[Kerry]

I don't think I'm going to like him much either. There are too many Brannings as it is on the Square, there's no need for another.

Apparently he also

sleeps with Rainie in one of next weeks episode. They're related ffs. :yuk:

Not to mention he looks more like a Branning father. Not a brother

[InOne]

Lola is pointless and annoying. All her storylines are just silly really. Preferred Julie and Billy together

[Kerry]

I'm not keen on Lola either :( Intrigued how the pregnancy storyline will go though

[Kazanne]

It was great last night,the mighty Max is back!

[Callum]

People on DS call Lola Laugh out loud acting, which is true to be honest, she's a terrible actress. Funny how they were making out she was going to become the new Stacey when she first joined, too. :laugh:

[Callum]

Great episode :worship:

[Firewire]

Tonight's episode was brilliant. Simon Ashdown is amazing.

I had tears strolling down my face and everything.

['Conor]

I watched EE tonight :amazed:

1st time this year, i didnt really know what was going on but it was good :)

[Callum]

It was probably the best episode of 2011

[Brother Leon]

Loving the Branning Brothers.

[Firewire]

Yeah, definitely.

I hope it gets a nomination for the BSAs.

['Conor]

You no that ginger one, Tanya's sister, did she only return recently enough?

[Callum]

You no that ginger one, Tanya's sister, did she only return recently enough?

She's been in it on and off for a few years but she made a permanent comeback earlier this year.

[Firewire]

She returned briefly last year and has been in it regularly since the spring, if I remember correctly.

[Jords]

The Branning meltdown the past couple of eps has been carried out really well!

['Conor]

She's been in it on and off for a few years but she made a permanent comeback earlier this year.

She returned briefly last year and has been in it regularly since the spring, if I remember correctly.

Oh right thanks, i remember liking her

[Firewire]

Max left in August and has just returned and Derek last appeared in 1996.

['Conor]

that Carol one wasnt in it for years

[Firewire]

She came back last year.

['Conor]

Lmao wow i really haven't seen EE in ages!

[Firewire]

Yeah a lot has happened. You must've missed the live episode, Peggy's exit, Stacey's exit and everything!

['Conor]

no no i tuned in for those! Apart from Stacey's exit

[Firewire]

aw okay! Stacey's exit was on Christmas Day 2010, was very sad.

[Kerry]

I loved the episode but only because I'm fed up of Tanya's illness being a secret. Hated Derek

[Redway]

God, I hate Lola. She can't act for toffee and I'm not arsed abour her. Wish she'd **** off an' all. Bring back Zsa Zsa and Lucy! :(

Anyway, best episode of 2011, but that's not saying much, given that the standard of quality this year has been very poor.

It was a pretty good episode, though. Glad to see Derek back. :)

[Callum]

Another brilliant episode tonight. Jo Joyner and Jake Wood deserve more recognition at the Soap Awards.

[Kerry]

AT LAST!! - Best episode in months. Welldone Jo!

[Jords]

Thought this Branning week would be ****e but its probably been the best week of the year for EE :worship:

[Callum]

Jo Joyner is probably the best actresss on any soap opera.

[Kerry]

Jo Joyner is probably the best actresss on any soap opera.

I think she's a bit OTT at times but this week has been brilliant from her. Especially today. It actually didn't feel like I was watching a soap at some points

[Callum]

I think she's a bit OTT at times but this week has been brilliant from her. Especially today. It actually didn't feel like I was watching a soap at some points

Yeah I agree, it just flew by for me because it was so captivating and powerful. It really was an epic episode. The stuff with Tanya and Cora in the bedroom was so moving, both did an amazing job.

[Kerry]

Yeah I agree, it just flew by for me because it was so captivating and powerful. It really was an epic episode. The stuff with Tanya and Cora in the bedroom was so moving, both did an amazing job.

I loved seeing Cora show affection for her like that. Very touching

[Jords]

I agree with both youre points about Tanya and Cora, brilliant scene.

[Jords]

Derek is too big of an arsehole cant stand his character already.

[Niamh.]

How does Jack even have Amy? Does he have a court order?