EastEnders discussion

[InOne]

But at least NuLucy is hot

[Vanessa]

Max is my fave character,I do like Michael but dislike him at the same time,which is good as it shows he is a good actor as that is how his character should be portrayed:xyxwave:I like the calibre of actors in EE,I think Jean is great as is Kim,who makes me laugh,the worst imo is the 'new' Lucy

Michael reminds me of Brendan! They're both a bit crazy! :tongue:

[Kazanne]

But at least NuLucy is hot

:joker:Well i guess that's all that matters:hugesmile:

[Redway]

Having a valid opinion

'I don't like Dot because she is being portrayed as very mean and that is unlike her character'

'I think the quality of the show has gone down because the characters are not being given realistic storylines'


Purely slagging off the show for no specified reason, the same thing over and over again, which is clearly going to grind some people's gears

'is anyone stil watching this ;lol'

'i echo you mate - sham'

'all we need now is that awful ben to go along with with the rest of the crew apart from a few - deadenders is dyer.'

'if this is classic EE - you have not seen it when it was good <'



'like EE generally - it is pathetic'

Fair enough.

[bbfan1991]

I really don't like how they treat Jean like crap, she is lovely and if Stacey was still around she would not stand for it:nono:.

Kim is hilarious:D. EastEnders is including fun scenes recently!

[Redway]

Jean never used to be like this, though, did she? Her bipolar was actually portrayed accurately, up until about a year ago. Since then, she's become some silly nutter. It's pretty offensive to those who actually suffer from it. It's disgusting.

[bbfan1991]

Jean never used to be like this, though, did she? Her bipolar was actually portrayed accurately, up until about a year ago. Since then, she's become some silly nutter. It's pretty offensive to those who actually suffer from it. It's disgusting.

I agree, they just treat her like the local nutcase and don't even help her with the problems she has. I blame the writing!

[waterhog]

bbfan - thats correct its the writers - never has EE been so bad - byebye kirkwood

[bbfan1991]

I enjoyed tonights episode.

Jack and Denise scenes made me laugh. Derek was bizzare.

Poor Andrew at the end and i'm glad Dot realised he didn't kill Hev, now Shirley has banned them from the funeral.

[Me. I Am Salman]

I hate how Shirley thinks she owns Heather

[waterhog]

I enjoyed tonights episode.

Jack and Denise scenes made me laugh. Derek was bizzare.

Poor Andrew at the end and i'm glad Dot realised he didn't kill Hev, now Shirley has banned them from the funeral.

if you enjoyed tonights episode - i would hate to see what you think is boring lol

[Marsh.]

It makes me laugh that Shirley is acting the way she is when in the last few months SHE was the one who treated Heather the worst. But maybe that's what it is, her taking her guilty conscience out on everyone else.

The week Heather was killed were a well made set of episodes but the show has slipped into tedium again. Alfie and Kat in another affair storyline, Derek, Derek and Derek. And Bianca's money worries are not only boring but baffling; people like her in real life are cashing all the benefits cheques they can lay their hands on.

[waterhog]

marsh - what ever it is - its killing me watching it - can not keep it up

[Jords]

Denise and Jack were fantastic :joker:

[Me. I Am Salman]

if you enjoyed tonights episode - i would hate to see what you think is boring lol

Tut tut you're at it again :nono:
But idc anymore I've said my piece.

[waterhog]

well said

[Redway]

if you enjoyed tonights episode - i would hate to see what you think is boring lol

Come on. We're all entitled our opinions. :)

[Redway]

Anyway, I completely agree with 08marsh. I enjoyed the Heather weeks, but it's turned crap again. The consistensy for EastEnders right now really is very poor.

[waterhog]

redway i would not ever disagree with that -

[waterhog]

redway i would not ever disagree with that -

[Me. I Am Salman]

Today's ep was on top form. Can't believe Shirley called Dot a cow :joker:

[Me. I Am Salman]

And what with Heather's funeral and Shirley joining forces with Andrew all coming up, I think it's going to be a great week

[Me. I Am Salman]

7dkbhorideY

Voodoo sh*t right there :crazy:

[Mrluvaluva]

I see Heather is getting a, erm, stylish send off...


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/avulavulrm/heather.jpg

[Kazanne]

I see Heather is getting a, erm, stylish send off...


http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t277/avulavulrm/heather.jpg

it's so 'Heather' though,she would have loved it

[Redway]

Last night (Tuesday)'s episode was very "all over the place", ranging from very good (the scenes with Ben, Phil and Shirley) to absolutely abysmal and pointless (I mean, what was all that nonsense with Ray and Bianca about?). Bar this Heather stuff, which is holding some interest (enough to keep me watching), nothing's happening, although, to be fair, at least there's something going on.

[Me. I Am Salman]

The Bianca/Ray thing in Tuesday's ep was important, cos its showing how Bianca is struggling lately,
and she's leaving the Square soon due to her struggles, so a build up is necessary and I know this is just food but she's having financial problems too so it's all fitting with the upcoming storyline.

[Mrluvaluva]

There's more about it here. (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a375803/two-eastenders-stars-to-take-break-from-soap.html)

[Me. I Am Salman]

Thanks Mrluvaluva :thumbs:

[Mrluvaluva]

You're welcome. :D

[Marsh.]

What a silly story. Completely unbelievable.

[Redway]

The Bianca/Ray thing in Tuesday's ep was important, cos its showing how Bianca is struggling lately,
and she's leaving the Square soon due to her struggles, so a build up is necessary and I know this is just food but she's having financial problems too so it's all fitting with the upcoming storyline.

Should still be clearer, though. I spent an entire epidode trying to work out what those scenes were about, but thanks for pointing that out, Salman. :)

[bbfan1991]

Poor Billy. Are we supposed to believe that Jay would let him take the rap though?:joker:

Shirley looked funny yesterday too, glad she finally found out that Andrew is innocent.

Roxy is hot!:blush:

[Me. I Am Salman]

Should still be clearer, though. I spent an entire epidode trying to work out what those scenes were about, but thanks for pointing that out, Salman. :)

Yeah I guess
And no worries :D

[Bollo]

I've changed my mind...I now want what Inone said about ' Heather Murder' storyline a few posts ago to be true...and for that person to go Ape**** and take everybody else down

[Jords]

Derek's faces tonight :joker:

[Me. I Am Salman]

he looks a bit like the troll face

http://supertrolliobros.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/trollface.png

[waterhog]

i just heard kirkwood is stepping down - praise the lord - no more teenie enders - brillinatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

[Jords]

I think you mean, brilliant.

[waterhog]

whatever

[Redway]

i just heard kirkwood is stepping down - praise the lord - no more teenie enders - brillinatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

To be fair, Santer was the king of all that. He's the one who introduced the E20 crew, chav crew, made E20 and gave us that awful period after the live episode where the teenagers/young adults ruled the square. :p

[waterhog]

To be fair, Santer was the king of all that. He's the one who introduced the E20 crew, chav crew, made E20 and gave us that awful period after the live episode where the teenagers/young adults ruled the square. :p

with all due respect - its not only the teen obsession - its been bad and naff for so long - the masood family done my nut in - mandy and ian are crap now - its all of it - we need a whisky - someone mature to direct lol:devil:

[Me. I Am Salman]

EastEnders bad boy Derek Branning is in for a shock as his long-lost daughter Alice will soon be arriving in Walford.

Jasmyn Banks has been cast in the role of Alice, who turns up on Albert Square desperately searching for answers from the father she has never met.

Alice has been brought up by her overprotective mum and older brother Joey, who has always spoken ill of their estranged father.

When she heads to Walford, Alice wants to find out the truth about her dad for herself. Ever the optimist, nice girl Alice is eager and excited to meet Derek (Jamie Foreman) - but whether she'll be pleased by what she finds remains to be seen.


http://i2.cdnds.net/12/15/618x780/soaps_eastenders_jasmyn_banks.jpg

Pictured: Jasmyn Banks as Alice Branning

As Alice has led a sheltered life, viewers will also be left to wonder how she'll fit in with the rest of the Brannings and the drama which surrounds the family.

Banks commented: "I've been a fan of EastEnders forever and am thrilled to be cast as a Branning. It's such a privilege to be working alongside Jamie and I can't wait to find out what's in store for Alice."

EastEnders' executive producer Lorraine Newman added: "Jasmyn's a great actress and we are delighted to have her join the cast as Alice Branning.

"Alice will help us glimpse a softer side to Derek and, being part of the Branning clan, there's a huge amount of history for the pair to draw upon which gives us great potential for the future."

EastEnders fans will see Alice's first scenes next month.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s2/eastenders/news/a376419/eastenders-casts-derek-brannings-daughter-alice.html

[Me. I Am Salman]

She looks like Melissa Suffield!

[waterhog]

lets face it - she can not be any worce the derek

[Redway]

with all due respect - its not only the teen obsession - its been bad and naff for so long - the masood family done my nut in - mandy and ian are crap now - its all of it - we need a whisky - someone mature to direct lol:devil:

It's not a new thing, though. For me, the last time EastEnders was any good for any significant period of time was probably 2007 (Ian Beale's stalker, Queen Vic Raid, Stacey and Max, Patrick's attack, Stephen's return and shooting of Jane, Stella/Ben/Phil, Dawn/Mad May/Rob, Mitchell Sisters arriving, Lucy/Craig, Brighton Week, Cindy, all held together by pitch-perfect pacing and plot development). As you can see, there was loads going on. Since then, it's been very average at best, with a few half-decent periods since then (late 2009/early 2010, summer/September 2010, maybe the first three weeks of 2011). I agree, though, that Kirkwood's period has very easily been the worst, but at least he tried. He's only human.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Read in the magazine today that Sharon has an affair with Max?

[Me. I Am Salman]

lets face it - she can not be any worce the derek

Your grammar and spelling is appalling
I swear you like writing poems :/

[Redway]

Read in the magazine today that Sharon has an affair with Max?

Oh, no. This had better not be true. :mad:

[waterhog]

sounds like the best thing in EE for a long time - as long as it dont involve alfe or them gormless brothers or derek then i am happy.

[Vanessa]

I love Derek! He's a great character! He's got so many sides to him! :lovedup:

[waterhog]

venessa - its the same old grin grin with him - we expect more from EE.

[Marsh.]

I love Derek! He's a great character! He's got so many sides to him! :lovedup:

He looks like a frog to me with that silly hat.

[Vanessa]

venessa - its the same old grin grin with him - we expect more from EE.

Which characters do you like? :wavey:

[bbfan1991]

I will miss Bianca when she goes on another break again:(. Not particularly bothered about Carol when she goes off on her break, but Lindsey Coulson is a very good Actress!

Poor Jean when she finally finds out that Michael is conning her:bawling:.

[waterhog]

likes - jean - dot - kim - patric - the guy who works in the pub kitchen forget his name - the rest i think they are making silly - but thats more to do with EE wrightin and not the actors. but a clear out is well over due - starting with derek.

[Redway]

Not a bad couple of episodes, to be fair, bar all this Roxy/Alfie nonsense. No, I'm still not impressed. Lorraine Newman and whoever it is after her (Lorraine Newman's only temporary) have a lot to sort out and that may well take a while. I can't say I've particularly enjoyed EastEnders since about May/June 2008 (bar the odd exception), but these past two years have been particularly bad.

[waterhog]

its been dyerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[Me. I Am Salman]

its been dyerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

you're just spamming now

[Locke.]

Been pretty good lately, always nice to have the two best characters (Derek and Alfie) involved more

[Vanessa]

Been pretty good lately, always nice to have the two best characters (Derek and Alfie) involved more

I'm so behind on Eastenders! I need to catch up! But i love Alfie and Derek!

[Me. I Am Salman]

Carol, Bianca & Whitney were brilliant tonight :D
Poor Shirley :(

[waterhog]

all they do is hollllllaa at each other . can not take much more.

[bbfan1991]

I really enjoyed tonights episode:).

[bbfan1991]

Carol, Bianca & Whitney were brilliant tonight :D
Poor Shirley :(

This and Jean when she finds out what Michael is really up to:(.

[Iceman]

Phil Help (may contain big spoiler)

Does he go back on crack or hit the booze again?

[Redway]

Where has Callum been? :suspect:

[Redway]

all they do is hollllllaa at each other . can not take much more.

its been dyerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

venessa - its the same old grin grin with him - we expect more from EE.

i just heard kirkwood is stepping down - praise the lord - no more teenie enders - brillinatttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

You're just spamming now and you know it. ;)

[Me. I Am Salman]

This and Jean when she finds out what Michael is really up to:(.

Michael is a scumbag
Felt really sorry for Jean yesterday, especially when she was going through those photos of Stacey & Shaun :bawling:

[Me. I Am Salman]

You're just spamming now and you know it. ;)

his posts are dyeerrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[waterhog]

what ever they are - they are not as bad as EE - well not yet anyway.

[Iceman]

what ever they are - they are not as bad as EE - well not yet anyway.

Could you please stop doing this please.

[Firewire]

after tonight, i realise that i really like derek.

[Redway]

Could you please stop doing this please.

:worship: That just needed to be said by a moderator. Thank you.

[Firewire]

Whitney finds out she's pregnant.

[Redway]

Whitney finds out she's pregnant.

Thanks for that. Same old crap, by its looks, then, eh?

[Marsh.]

You'd think they'd be bored of babies and pregnancies. FGS, at this rate Sharon will come back pregnant.

[Vanessa]

To be honest, I did actially have that in mind. It reay is a disgrace.

Is this the best they can come up with? Same old! :bored:

[Redway]

You'd think they'd be bored of babies and pregnancies. FGS, at this rate Sharon will come back pregnant.

To be honest, I did actually have that in mind. It really is a disgrace.

[Redway]

Is this the best they can come up with? Same old! :bored:
Yeah. People can criticise the Louise Berridge days 2002-2004 but I don't care. 2002 was excellent, 2003 was very good and whilst 2004 may not have been amazing, there was plenty to enjoy, good characters and at least it was watchable. It was just those awful, awful Ferrairas, who really dragged the year down. Still, it was ten times better than 2011-2012.

[Vanessa]

Yeah. People can criticise the Louise Berridge days 2002-2004 but I don't care. 2002 was excellent, 2003 was very good and whilst 2004 may not have been amazing, there was plenty to enjoy, good characters and at least it was watchable. It was just those awful, awful Ferrairas, who really dragged the year down. Still, it was ten times better than 2011-2012.

I want to see some new storylines. At the moment i really like Derek and Michael. :)

[Redway]

I want to see some new storylines. At the moment i really like Derek and Michael. :)

I'm not too keen on either of them, really. I reckon the show just needs a massive revamp.

[Vanessa]

I'm not too keen on either of them, really. I reckon the show just needs a massive revamp.

They need new writers for sure! :blush:

[Redway]

They need new writers for sure! :blush:

Yeah. I actually do wonder whether Elstree Studios are just taking the piss and deliberately serving out nonsense or genuinelly think the audience wants to see the same storylines being repeated over and over and over again. I really do.

[Vanessa]

Yeah. I actually do wonder whether Elstree Studios are just taking the piss and deliberately serving out nonsense or genuinelly think the audience wants to see the same storylines being repeated over and over and over again. I really do.

I'm enjoying Roxie and Alfie close friendship. I want them to get together! :blush:

[bbfan1991]

Ian finds out about Ben being the killer next month:eek::D.

Monday 14 May 2012
Ben thinks that Shirley has overheard a conversation between him and Phil about Heather’s death - and makes a horrifying revelation.

After drinking a bottle of lager and taking some of Cora’s hay fever remedy, Jay starts to babble incoherently about Heather’s death, to Abi's concern.

Kim decides to cheer her man up with some fun in the bedroom but her plan fails when an unsuspecting Ray turns up with a guest.

Derek is thrilled when Alice agrees to meet her family, but just as he is about to leave for the party he is unavoidably detained.

Tuesday 15 May 2012

Ian struggles to comprehend Ben’s shocking revelation. And how will Ben and Phil react when he advises them to go to the police?

The party for Alice at the Branning’s house is awkward. As they wait for Derek’s arrival, the rest of the family are singing his praises - until Tanya reveals some home truths about her dad.

Thursday 17 May 2012
Shirley takes comfort from watching footage of Heather’s hen party and gives it to Dot in the hope that it will it have the same effect.

Denise comes up with a plan to make Kim and Sasha spend the day together, but it goes awry when Kim gets in trouble with the local authority.

Michael does his best to solve Janine’s problems, but is dismayed when his efforts backfire.

Friday 18 May 2012

As Ian’s life crumbles around him he is forced to make a shocking decision about his future.

While Shirley is taking small steps to deal with the loss of Heather she also does her best to help Dot, who is still struggling.

Phil and Ben do their best to convince Jay to come back home..

[Jords]

ooOoOOoOOOOoooOoOOooooo

[bbfan1991]

I really like Abi and Jay, best teens IMO. I cannot stand the overrated Lauren and think Jacqueline Jossa is overrated too and new Lucy does my head in.

Whitney could be redeemed if they got rid of Tyler and gave her a storyline that is not to do with men...

[bbfan1991]

Poor Bianca tonight:(, her desperation was sad and Patsy Palmer was brilliant in this special episode.

I am glad B and her mother Carol made up and felt sorry for her kids too.

[Marsh.]

Terrible episode. The performances were good but the storyline doesn't ring true at all.
Walford have obviously never heard of any kind of benefits system or tax credits.

And then at the end it was revealed she owed something like £1,000. The way they've been going on it was like she was in fear of losing everything and owed thousands. Couldn't afford a tin of beans to feed the kids etc yet she bought a TV and all the other crap which could easily be cashed in.
Or Carol could ask one of many brothers to help out who seem to be running businesses with no problem.
Or Ricky, who apparently has stopped sending money for the kids which is odd.
Then she nicks money on her own doorstep where everyone knows who she is. lol

Just really bad writing all round. Probably written by someone rich who hasn't the first clue about the working class.

[Redway]

Simply dreadful episode. I actually don't even know what happened - it was all bull. Thankfully, Kirkwood's nearly out now, but it's not fair on us viewers. Talk to anyone and they will tell you it's been crap since the aftermath of the live and whilst I think people are unnecessarily harsh on 2010, 2011-present has been simply inexcusable. We deserve episodes were things actually happen.

By the way, does anyone know where Callum is? He hasn't been active for about five weeks now. :suspect:

[waterhog]

i will be complaining again tonight - it is dyer.

[Me. I Am Salman]

I don't understand why people are complaining about yesterday's episode because of how "unrealistic" it was.

EastEnders is not meant to be completely realistic fgs. And it never has been. The fact that there's murders every year on the Square, Dirty Den coming back from "dead" a couple of years ago etc - none of it would happen in real life. So I don't know why people are saying it's just nowadays where EastEnders is unrealistic and blaming the current writers, especially something so minor like the whole situation with Bianca.

If it was 100% realistic like everyone wants it to be then the show would be boring as **** and you know it. Of course Bianca could have seeked benefits or something - but why would the viewers want to watch that? It's a soap you know.. it's meant to be gripping.. which it was. I thought it was a fantastic episode. So cut the writers some slack, gosh, it's like people are never satisfied
-__-

[Me. I Am Salman]

And if WATERHOG says "dyer" again in another of his illiterate posts, I'm just going to smash my screen up

[Marsh.]

If it entertained me and "gripped" me I may have been more lenient but it wasn't either for me.

If they'd skirted over the benefits thing by having her in 20 grand of debt or something it would be a tad more believable.

But the fact that they've said they're completely penniless, when 4 of them have jobs is just plain stupidity. Changing a character to suit the plat (Ie. Ricky's not bothering to pay child support apparently even though he went off to earn big money in Dubai and yet came back with nothing).
They have a family of men owning their own businesses who would help out and offer money but she's too proud to ask and yet she'll beg Janine (the Scrooge of the story).

Just because it's not real doesn't mean they can just make up whatever crap they want and we should buy it. If they'd even attempted to make it believable it wouldn't matter.

Even without bringing benefits into it, she was only in £1,000 debt. She was acting as though she was going to die from it and was in thousands upon thousands of debt.

[Me. I Am Salman]

But why on earth would she even be in £20K debt lmao it's Bianca, that wouldn't be very realistic would it.

She didn't ask Max because as she said he's got a lot on his plate with Tanya. And she didn't ask Derek because he'll just worm his way into the family and she'd rather go penniless than have someone as troublesome & manipulating as Derek in near her kids, which is understandable. So she went to Janine because she presumed it'd not be much of a problem and she wouldn't make a fuss as £1000 is nothing for Janine what with the fact that she's loaded.

Anyway I thought it was an amazing episode and from what I've read on Twitter a lot of people were emotional (lol) so the writers were successful in making a good episode. Of course some people will pick out tiny flaws but that doesn't matter when I'm sure the majority of viewers were pleased with it.

[Redway]

Are you aiming that at me, Salman?

[Me. I Am Salman]

No I'm not aiming it at anyone I'm just saying in general people should cut the writers some slack.

[Kazanne]

I love Eastenders and imo is far more believable than the sham 'Bohemiam Rhapsody'given out by Coronation street,i mean is that the best they can do,lol,EE last night was thought provoking,well acted and showed us the mean side of life,and as for the baby stories,they happen in real life too,way better than any other soap imo,and why just moan about it,just turn off if it's not your cup of tea,simples!

[Redway]

No I'm not aiming it at anyone I'm just saying in general people should cut the writers some slack.

Well, personally, I found it very dull and contrived - this sort of emotional thing has been overdone so much lately that I just don't care who cries or not anymore.

[Redway]

I love Eastenders and imo is far more believable than the sham 'Bohemiam Rhapsody'given out by Coronation street,i mean is that the best they can do,lol,EE last night was thought provoking,well acted and showed us the mean side of life,and as for the baby stories,they happen in real life too,way better than any other soap imo,and why just moan about it,just turn off if it's not your cup of tea,simples!

I believe it's called having an opinion. Having an opinion on a piece of art means expressing what you think about it, be it positive, negative or somewhere in the middle, unless you're saying that I should switch off because I don't agree with you.

I do wish people would stop this whole 'if you don't like it, don't watch it' nonsense. I'm actually a genuine fan of EastEnders, just not happy with its current state. Why should I switch off for registering an opinion you just happen to disagree with?

[Redway]

I love Eastenders and imo is far more believable than the sham 'Bohemiam Rhapsody'given out by Coronation street,i mean is that the best they can do,lol,EE last night was thought provoking,well acted and showed us the mean side of life,and as for the baby stories,they happen in real life too,way better than any other soap imo,and why just moan about it,just turn off if it's not your cup of tea,simples!
I believe it's called having an opinion. Having an opinion on a piece of art means expressing what you think about it, be it positive, negative or somewhere in the middle, unless you're saying that I should switch off because I don't agree with you.

I do wish people would stop this whole 'if you don't like it, don't watch it' nonsense. I'm actually a genuine fan of EastEnders, just not happy with its current state. Why should I switch off for registering an opinion you just happen to disagree with?

[Kazanne]

I believe it's called having an opinion. Having an opinion on a piece of art means expressing what you think about it, be it positive, negative or somewhere in the middle, unless you're saying that I should switch off because I don't agree with you.

I do wish people would stop this whole 'if you don't like it, don't watch it' nonsense. I'm actually a genuine fan of EastEnders, just not happy with its current state. Why should I switch off for registering an opinion you just happen to disagree with?

So good you said it twice:joker:seriously though,i just dont see the point in moaning about a program ,they all have highs and lows,i gave my opinion that i like EE,that is all

[Me. I Am Salman]

I love Eastenders and imo is far more believable than the sham 'Bohemiam Rhapsody'given out by Coronation street,i mean is that the best they can do,lol,EE last night was thought provoking,well acted and showed us the mean side of life,and as for the baby stories,they happen in real life too,way better than any other soap imo,and why just moan about it,just turn off if it's not your cup of tea,simples!

Where have you been all my life :laugh:

[Redway]

So good you said it twice:joker:seriously though,i just dont see the point in moaning about a program ,they all have highs and lows,i gave my opinion that i like EE,that is all
Right, so you're saying that I'm not allowed to form an opinion on here unless it is positive? Is that what you're saying? Shows do have highs and lows, but I believe EastEnders is at an all-time low, and I will continue to give my opinions on it whilst, in my opinion, it continues to go through its bad patch. I'm not speaking for you. I'm speaking for myself. I don't see the point in having a go at posters who don't think EastEnders is great right now, and that's a fact.

Don't you DARE have a go at me for registering my thoughts - which is what we're here for. THAT, love, is ALL.

[Kazanne]

Right, so you're saying that I'm not allowed to form an opinion on here unless it is positive? Is that what you're saying? Shows do have highs and lows, but I believe EastEnders is at an all-time low, and I will continue to give my opinions on it whilst, in my opinion, it continues to go through its bad patch. I'm not speaking for you. I'm speaking for myself. I don't see the point in having a go at posters who don't think EastEnders is great right now, and that's a fact.

Don't you dare have a go at me for registering my thoughts - which is what we're here for. THAT, love, is ALL.

OMG,No one is having a go at you,lol,chill it's only a TV program,I didn't say you couldn't have an opinion either,blimey no need for the hostility,maybe it's me that's not allowed an opinion,you believe it's at an all time low,FINE! I don't sorry.

[Kazanne]

Where have you been all my life :laugh:

I'm here Salman,probably watching Eastenders:hugesmile:

[Me. I Am Salman]

Blimey what is going on here :laugh:

[Redway]

OMG,No one is having a go at you,lol,chill it's only a TV program,I didn't say you couldn't have an opinion either,blimey no need for the hostility,maybe it's me that's not allowed an opinion,you believe it's at an all time low,FINE! I don't sorry.

Exactly. You post what you think; I'll post what I think. It's not flaming rocket science.

[Kazanne]

Exactly. You post what you think; I'll post what I think. It's not flaming rocket science.

Total over reaction to my comment,I'm done here

[Redway]

Total over reaction to my comment,I'm done here

I'm not over-reacting. Just saying. Let's move on.

[waterhog]

settle down dear.

[InOne]

The whole story is pretty ridiculous. The the acting in the ep made up for it, great perfomance by Patsy and Lindsey. Glad Bianca is going for a bit though, she was pretty annoying. Seemed a whole lot of drama for a grand though lol

[waterhog]

well said inone - i agree with you for once - she is to much bianca.

[Redway]

The whole story is pretty ridiculous. The the acting in the ep made up for it, great perfomance by Patsy and Lindsey. Glad Bianca is going for a bit though, she was pretty annoying. Seemed a whole lot of drama for a grand though lol

This.

[Me. I Am Salman]

well said inone - i agree with you for once - she is to much bianca.

Does anything ever bloody satisfy you

[Redway]

To be fair, there were some stunning performances and I hate Ian. After everything people have done for him, he can still be a right bitch towards people. It certainly did have its highlights, I guess. Upon watching it again, I'll give it a 5/10. In the soap's state, a good episode.

[Firewire]

Emer Kenny (who played Zsa Zsa Carter) has written tomorrow night's episode.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Whut

[Firewire]

what do you mean "Whut"?

[InOne]

Good to see Lucy's lovely legs make another appearance tonight

[Me. I Am Salman]

what do you mean "Whut"?

As in I had no idea she was capable of writing an episode of EastEnders :tongue:

[Firewire]

As in I had no idea she was capable of writing an episode of EastEnders :tongue:

she wrote two episodes of E20

You can judge it yourself when the episode airs.

[Marsh.]

But why on earth would she even be in £20K debt lmao it's Bianca, that wouldn't be very realistic would it.

She didn't ask Max because as she said he's got a lot on his plate with Tanya. And she didn't ask Derek because he'll just worm his way into the family and she'd rather go penniless than have someone as troublesome & manipulating as Derek in near her kids, which is understandable. So she went to Janine because she presumed it'd not be much of a problem and she wouldn't make a fuss as £1000 is nothing for Janine what with the fact that she's loaded.

Anyway I thought it was an amazing episode and from what I've read on Twitter a lot of people were emotional (lol) so the writers were successful in making a good episode. Of course some people will pick out tiny flaws but that doesn't matter when I'm sure the majority of viewers were pleased with it.


I wasn't suggesting she literally be in 20 grand of debt. I'm saying the episode was bad because she acted as though she was, as though she was in so much debt that they'd be homeless and never have anything to live for. Then it turns out it's just a grand, after she bought a new TV a couple of weeks ago. Stupid writing.

Acting is pretty solid, they don't have a bad cast for the most part but the plots are either bland or stupid.

[Marsh.]

As in I had no idea she was capable of writing an episode of EastEnders :tongue:

I think she's a writer in general more than an actress. She wrote for E20 too.

[bbfan1991]

Lauren is such a brat, cannot stand her and I think the Actress is slightly overrated too:bored:.

[Jords]

Lauren is my favourite atm!

[Firewire]

I think Jacqueline Jossa is a great actress! I love Lauren.

And did last night's episode seem a bit... Hollyoaks-ish for anyone else? Just with the ending and the music and stuff. I kinda liked it, but it seemed very teen-y.

[Kazanne]

i think jacqueline jossa is a great actress! I love lauren.

And did last night's episode seem a bit... Hollyoaks-ish for anyone else? Just with the ending and the music and stuff. I kinda liked it, but it seemed very teen-y.

this^

[bbfan1991]

I think Jacqueline Jossa is a great actress! I love Lauren.

And did last night's episode seem a bit... Hollyoaks-ish for anyone else? Just with the ending and the music and stuff. I kinda liked it, but it seemed very teen-y.

EastEnders is trying to explore the teens in detail, although this is still Kirkwood's era and he worked at Hollyoaks but I liked the episode, shame that some people slag off Hollyoaks and don't even watch it because when the show does a big storyline e.g. Silas it is at it's best;).

[Firewire]

Tonight's episode was fantastic. I think Emer Kenny did a great job and I hope she sticks around and writes more episodes for EastEnders!

[bbfan1991]

Tonight's episode was fantastic. I think Emer Kenny did a great job and I hope she sticks around and writes more episodes for EastEnders!

I absolutely agree, really impressed with her writing and the scenes/dialogue from tonight:).

[waterhog]

helauarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr you are all waking up - this is all teenybobbers stuff - today we had the first clipse of what a soap should be about - real life issues and not comedy such as alfie tyle - derek etc etc.

[Marsh.]

It wasn't a bad episode but it had a huge "been there, done that" element to it. Felt very much like Whitney's rebellion last year. And I don't really like that they've put more focus on Lauren's drinking than they did on Tanya's cancer which is odd.

[bbfan1991]

I am liking Derek, maybe having his daughter turning up might make some viewers warm towards him as he tries to get to know her?

Fatboy rapping at the Argee Bhargee re-opening!:joker:

[waterhog]

what ever they are doing - it is wrong as i am not enjoying EE for about 1 year now - its so boring.

[InOne]

what ever they are doing - it is wrong as i am not enjoying EE for about 1 year now - its so boring.

Don't watch it then?

[waterhog]

rather complain when it drops its standards - they are here to serve us - not the other way round.

[InOne]

Well tell them not us

[Redway]

Well, tell them, then, WATERHOG. No one is even arsed, tbh. Grr, had to bloody edit AGAIN. :bored: Suppose that's what happens when you're in some jam-packed coach on your way to Birmingham.

[waterhog]

inone hello my friend - long time no chat - how you doing ?

[Redway]

Like, OMFG. :joker:

[bbfan1991]

I enjoyed Shirley's rant at Ben:D. Phil running away to Grant again when the going gets tough.

I'm enjoying Roxy getting more involved in the Mitchell family matters!

Abi and Jay are lovely together, their relationship is not based on sex and they are the best teen characters by far.

Alice seems lovely and they needed to make Derek more than just a pantomime villain.

[bbfan1991]

Oh dear Phil getting really angry at the Branning's.

[bbfan1991]

Glad that Max let Jay stay at the Branning's.

Phil grabbing the booze and spot on telling Ben that he is the one to blame for why Ben has done all these terrible things.

[InOne]

Great ep tonight. Take that WATERHOG

[InOne]

Everyone was on top form and you could just feel the tension building up in Phil. Ben is so annoying :bored: No wonder he snapped. That Alice doesn't seem too bad either

[Me. I Am Salman]

what ever they are doing - it is wrong as i am not enjoying EE for about 1 year now - its so boring.

Then go away?

[waterhog]

i agree alice look good - and yes it was a ok episode - but it is no where near where it is meant to be - and EE is taking rap in the press so i am not the only one that feels like this.

[Me. I Am Salman]

I like Alice :D

[waterhog]

salman - not sure what that spoiler has to do with EE but it has got me thinking.

[Firewire]

An ambulance and then a hearse was saw on the webcam. Someone's gonna die!

[Me. I Am Salman]

omg another death? :shocked:

[Firewire]

Yeah, but I'm not sure who. I hope it's a surprise death from Ben. But Anthony's leaving too. Mandy's leaving at the end of the month and the episodes filming will not be on air until June so I think it'll be Anthony. However I don't feel like he's important enough to get that kind of death... so maybe the character leaving has yet to be announced.

[Marsh.]

The only death I've heard of for the show is Lorraine's, but Mandy leaves the same week so I don't see her getting a big fancy funeral.

Anyway, I'm glad miserable Carol and shouty Bianca have gone on a break. Just what we need. Good episode on Friday with Jay bonding with the Brannings and I appreciate them starting to give Derek some depth and make him more than a pantomime villain.

Axing wood like Anthony can only be good too.
Does anyone know when Sharon's back? I'm sure she's due to go back filming soon.

[Firewire]

The only death I've heard of for the show is Lorraine's, but Mandy leaves the same week so I don't see her getting a big fancy funeral.

Anyway, I'm glad miserable Carol and shouty Bianca have gone on a break. Just what we need. Good episode on Friday with Jay bonding with the Brannings and I appreciate them starting to give Derek some depth and make him more than a pantomime villain.

Axing wood like Anthony can only be good too.
Does anyone know when Sharon's back? I'm sure she's due to go back filming soon.

Lorraine died out of the square so it's not her death. I think the death might be announced soon, it's not due to air until late June anyway.

And I think that event will be the return of Sharon as I think she's back late June / early July - it would make sense.

[waterhog]

sharron can have the queen vic as i am so fed up of shane alfie - boringggggggggggggggggg

[Redway]

Not too bad an episode, to be fair. Yeah, I'm with InOne - take 2, WATERHOG. Learn the flaming lingo, like, then come back and we'll see, eh?

[Redway]

Actually, WATERHOG, do you actually watch these episodes or do you just come on here and give negative reviews without having seen half a second of the episode?

[Marsh.]

Was Eastenders on tonight? It's Sunday.

[waterhog]

it dont matter if it is on or not - you are watching the same NOTHING.

i use the boards to put my views accross = the soaps are just not how i rmember them.

[Marsh.]

it dont matter if it is on or not - you are watching the same NOTHING.

i use the boards to put my views accross = the soaps are just not how i rmember them.

I was referring to Redway, asking him what episode he's talking about.

But, seriously, if you hate the soaps that much then, for your own health, stop watching them.

[waterhog]

i am one sick man - can you not tell from my poetry ?

[waterhog]

i am one sick man - can you not tell from my poetry ?

[Redway]

i am one sick man - can you not tell from my poetry ?
Mentally, you mean? Yeah, I can tell. ;)
Was Eastenders on tonight? It's Sunday.

No, I'm on about Friday. I always give late reviews, see.

[Mrluvaluva]

Does Mandy not marry Ian? Is that what triggers his mental breakdown and causes him to go missing?

[Redway]

Does Mandy not marry Ian? Is that what triggers his mental breakdown and causes him to go missing?

Well, Mandy's leaving soon, so that does seem likely.

[InOne]

Another good ep tonight. Steve was on top form and definitely plays the most convincing drunk in soap. Glad to see one of them has finally cracked. Don't like all this high and mighty Branning stuff though, Tanya and Lauren were total bitches in that ep. A woman who buried her husband alive and a spoilt drunk for a daughter taking the moral highground :rolleyes:

[Mrluvaluva]

I agree. I think Steve is a tremendous actor. I did enjoy Kim tonight too. :laugh:

[waterhog]

what a drunk - as for the rest - the pits - how anyone can call this entertainment i do not no.

[Me. I Am Salman]

what a drunk - as for the rest - the pits - how anyone can call this entertainment i do not no.

How anyone can be so gramatically retarded I do not know.

[Redway]

How anyone can be so gramatically retarded I do not know.

He's obviously spamming to piss off people, I reckon. Nobody's so poor at grammar. Nobody, and that's a fact. If he can write poems, he can write in decent, proper English. I'm not asking for extremely advanced levels or immaculate, perfectly typed sentences - just posts that I can actually make any sense of. I don't see the point in making the effort to post a countless amount of poems if they're all semi-literate.

Anyway, Monday's episode wasn't too bad, either, although it did have that 'been there, done that' (deja vu) feel to it. I can see Ian gradually losing it, which ties in with his upcoming storyline. By this, I mean his mental breakdown.

[waterhog]

thanks for all the attention - i am sure this post has no erros ?

[Firewire]

hahaha

[Mrluvaluva]

Kat returns to Albert Square - Airs Thursday, Jun 7 2012 at 19:30 BST on BBC One. Apparently she kicks Roxy out of The Vic.

[Vanessa]

Can't wait for Kat to return! We'll have a catfight! :amazed:

[Redway]

Oh, I can wait for Kat to return. I loved her in her original 2000-2005 stint but she's turned into some miserable cow, who's never pleased at anything. Hopefully, the new producer(s) will restore her character or axe her. If her character's damaged beyond repair (which doesn't surprise me) there's no other option but for her to be binned...

[InOne]

So will Dot, Ian, Bianca, Carol and Janine all be on a break at the same time?

[Jords]

Kat returns to Albert Square - Airs Thursday, Jun 7 2012 at 19:30 BST on BBC One. Apparently she kicks Roxy out of The Vic.

Roxy > Kat

[Firewire]

So will Dot, Ian, Bianca, Carol and Janine all be on a break at the same time?

Dot, Carol and Carol are away six months, I think.
Janine is an uncertain amount of months from the end of the year.
Ian is six weeks.

[Redway]

Whitney and Rose are leaving as well. No links availabe right now. Sorry.

[Jords]

They have denied that Whitney is leaving I think.

[Firewire]

Whitney is not leaving. Rose is.

Confirmed that is.

Poppy is back next month.

[Redway]

OK, thanks for clearing up that.

[waterhog]

she needs to go along with the rest of them except jeanine and micheal - you will eventually see i am talking sense.

[Firewire]

It's likely that the departures of

Ben, Michael, Andrew and Lola

will be announced in the coming weeks. It comes from a source who announced the casting of Joey Branning two weeks before it was announced via the press.

[waterhog]

not micheal - he is holding the show up - i wont watch no more if he goes.

[Locke.]

Yeah, Michael needs to stick around

[InOne]

Nice to see Lucy's legs making another appearance tonight :D

[waterhog]

this shhow is the pits

[bbfan1991]

Ian walking barefoot near a busy road after losing the plot because of Mandy leaving:eek:. Lucy was bareable tonight too!

It is a shame that Mandy has left:(. Nicola Stapleton and Adam Woodyatt were very good tonight with their performances.

[Jords]

I thought they denied Mandy was leaving? wat
Is she not coming back?

[bbfan1991]

I thought they denied Mandy was leaving? wat
Is she not coming back?

She has definitely gone for good and Ian will be gone for a while too, although he returns with Sharon apparently;).

[bbfan1991]

Simon Ashdown is an awesome writer for EastEnders, gripping episode and it was way better than Corrie tonight;).

[Locke.]

Seriously what the **** have they done to Ian :joker: :joker:

[Marsh.]

Good episode. Ian going round the bend was funny, poor thing.

But this entire story has been so inconsistent. Lucy keeps switching every episode between feeling sorry for Mandy and getting along, and being a bitch and wanting to split them up. It changes like the wind.

Also, Ian and Mandy. I may have missed a few episodes here and there but they're flipping between Ian not wanting to trust her, her not wanting to get married, to him being desperate, her being besotted. My head's spinning. lol

[Redway]

I have to admit that was a very good episode, but even that won't even come close to redeeming how poor this Heather storyline's been overall. Anyway, the Ian scenes were really powerful and effective and it goes to show how bad mental illnesses can be. I know someone who's currently going through this sort of thing (a mental breakdown) and it really is very sad, so hopefully they won't take the mick out of this storyline, like Zak Dingle and Emmerdale, which was pretty laughable and ridiculous.

[Redway]

not micheal - he is holding the show up - i wont watch no more if he goes.

For your sake, I hope he leaves, then...

[flamingGalah!]

I can't believe all the cast that are leaving!

Ian, Dot, Carol, Bianca & the kids gone but will be back later in the year

Also off for an extended break soon are Janine & Tanya

Leaving for good Mandy, Rose, Andrew, Antony, Afia & Ben

:shocked:

It will be a bit empty in Albert Square!

[Redway]

I can't believe all the cast that are leaving!

Ian, Dot, Carol, Bianca & the kids gone but will be back later in the year

Also off for an extended break soon are Janine & Tanya

Leaving for good Mandy, Rose, Andrew, Antony, Afia & Ben

:shocked:

It will be a bit empty in Albert Square!

I know. That's really going to leave a mark on EastEnders and it isn't fair on Lorraine Newman. The only way things can even come close to being fixed is if they introduce new characters, but they should be gradually introduced, not just all at once. Kate Harwood made that mistake in 2006. 2005 had relied completely on Den's murder storyline and although it was a terrific year, it was in a very unhealthy state to rely on one storyline and a particular group of characters, no matter how legendary and iconic. So when they all left towards the end of 2005/beginning of 2006 Kate Harwood had to introduce an influx of characters and it took ages to warm to them. 2006 wasn't too bad a year, but it would have been a lot better if we had time to warm to the characters, rather than them just coming in one go.

[waterhog]

same old same old -

[Redway]

Tuesday's episode wasn't bad at all, to be fair. Nothing spectacular but watchable. I liked Alice coming in but I don't see this hype surrounding her 'looks'. She's all right, like, but she looks too 'innocent' and 'sweet' for my liking. She looks like one of those 'girls are nice like sugar, everything sweet...' (excuse the wrong wording - it's been a long time) girls.

Derek, who I usually loathe, actually put in a half-decent performance and it was genuinely shocking seeing him threaten Tanya like that.

The only thing I didn't like in that episode was all that Heather stuff - it doesn't have enough characters (certainly decent ones) involved and I'm finding it really difficult to keep interested in the plot.

6/10.

[Marsh.]

Andrew is staying in the show until around next March/April at least. He's not leaving.

And Janine, Bianca and Carol will be back before Tanya goes on a break so they won't all be gone at the same time. Kat returns in a week or two aswell.

[Locke.]

Pretty boring at the minute, Lucy being so fit is the only good thing. Oh, and Derek. Great character, lets hope he carries out that death threat he gave Tanya.

[Firewire]

Why do you guys think Tanya is so scared of Derek? Do you think they've had some sort of altercation in the past?

[Locke.]

Everyone is scared of Derek

[InOne]

It's lovely Lucy keeping EE alive at the moment, star of the show. I'm already pining for my next Lucy fix

[Marsh.]

Lucy looks really strange. She loses more weight every episode.

[Redway]

As peng as the new Lucy is, I still preferred the old Lucy (I reckon she was fitter and could actually act, which is the most important) and I can't believe they sacked her for 'underage drinking'. She was 17 - that's what people her age do, and it's not as if the show at the time wasn't already putting itself to shame, with such intriguing and eye-gluing plots as Billy stealing post and Danny conning Roxy out of all her money...yeah, that was soap at its finest and it couldn't do with a bad reputation, that it hadn't already acquired. I hope for the sake of you lot you know I'm being sarcastic.

[Firewire]

Melissa Suffield (old Lucy) has been in a few episodes of Casualty this year and she's been really good. I really miss her as Lucy. Hetti is good but I don't think she's "Lucy" for me.

[waterhog]

its a sham of a show - and anyone who thinks its good - has not been around long enough to compare it to the past - because that was EE at its best - its down hill from here on in.

[waterhog]

its a sham of a show - and anyone who thinks its good - has not been around long enough to compare it to the past - because that was EE at its best - its down hill from here on in.

[Firewire]

Yes but Bryan Kirkwood has been axed, it'll pick up soon.

[Firewire]

Summer spoilers!

TANYA PROPOSES TO MAX... BUT HE SAYS NO! (Tuesday 12 June 2012)

MAX'S SHOCKING CONFESSION TO TANYA (21 June 2012)

JAY & ABI: MARRIED & ON THE RUN! (Thurs 14 June 2012)

BEN'S FOUND OUT- THE TRUTH ABOUT HEV'S MURDER REVEALED!

JANINE COLLAPSES ON WEDDING DAY (20/21 JUNE 2012)

MASOOD'S BROTHER AJ AHMED ARRIVES- WHY IS ZAINAB NOT HAPPY TO SEE HIM?

JOEY BRANNING'S EXPLOSIVE ARRIVAL (21 JUNE 2012)

RICKY AND DIANE BUTCHER RETURN (20 JUNE 2012)

LUCY LOVES JOEY BRANNING

THE QUEEN VIC STARTS A FOOTIE TEAM

[Locke.]

Only ones that sound good are the pub football team and Ricky returning

[Redway]

its a sham of a show - and anyone who thinks its good - has not been around long enough to compare it to the past - because that was EE at its best - its down hill from here on in.

That's quite all right, Joe. As I'm sure has been told to you so many times now, if you're actually suggesting we should base our views on a soap from an anonymous forum member who can't spell for toffee dragged out of the cellar in the form of a decade-old piece of faeces, then you need to read a lot more than I thought. Get an education, get a life, get out, make some friends, smoke some weed, stop posting crap on here, you know? xxx

[joeysteele]

I've missed Eastenders over the last week ,is Ian still missing?

[waterhog]

redway that was brutal,
but i still feel for you and my love is fruitful.
i understand you can not comprehend,
and i am quite glad my poetry dose offend.
you say it is crap,
thats praise and i respect that chap.
it has been called allot worse and i am thick skinned,
god is my judge, he no's if i have sinned.
but keep admiring please as i love your digs,
because the corruption in you is bigger then ronny biggs.
enjoy mate and take a chill,
go and see the doctor, as you are on the wrong pill.
maybe take a break and relax from this stress,
because you have shown a problem, have you redway got anything to confess ?

[Redway]

Jesus Christ. Look, never mind.

[Firewire]

I've missed Eastenders over the last week ,is Ian still missing?

Yes, he's out for 6 weeks.

[Maia]

New Lucy >>> tbh

[Redway]

It was a dreaful week last week. Looking at the spoilers for this week, I don't see owt changing, tbh. Mind, these are still Kirkwood's episodes.

[Redway]

Summer spoilers!

TANYA PROPOSES TO MAX... BUT HE SAYS NO! (Tuesday 12 June 2012)

MAX'S SHOCKING CONFESSION TO TANYA (21 June 2012)

JAY & ABI: MARRIED & ON THE RUN! (Thurs 14 June 2012)

BEN'S FOUND OUT- THE TRUTH ABOUT HEV'S MURDER REVEALED!

JANINE COLLAPSES ON WEDDING DAY (20/21 JUNE 2012)

MASOOD'S BROTHER AJ AHMED ARRIVES- WHY IS ZAINAB NOT HAPPY TO SEE HIM?

JOEY BRANNING'S EXPLOSIVE ARRIVAL (21 JUNE 2012)

RICKY AND DIANE BUTCHER RETURN (20 JUNE 2012)

LUCY LOVES JOEY BRANNING

THE QUEEN VIC STARTS A FOOTIE TEAM
All of that sounds crap. The Queen Vic Football team reminds me of the last time they tried that, what with all that Real Walford nonsense and Queen Victoria United.

[Kazanne]

Lucy looks really strange. She loses more weight every episode.

I noticed this too,is she anorexic?she looks like a 12 year old,and is really a very bad actress,hopefully she will be gone soon or replaced with someone that looks like a teenager and can act.

[Redway]

For me, the new Lauren is much better than the old one. She seems more grown up and I love her attitude. I hope they don't make her like a proper tearaway though, taking drugs, binge drinking etc.

Bumped from 27-09-2010. Look at her now.

[waterhog]

things can only get better or can they ?

[bbfan1991]

I am finally liking this new Lucy Beale!

I think that the show needs some more new families, it would be good and stop the focus being on a certain Branning family.

New characters are needed and especially with those people going on breaks, although the characters would have to be well written and given a chance by the viewers.

[Me. I Am Salman]

How long has it been since we had a proper new family? We definitely need one :lovedup:

[Firewire]

The Masoods, every other family have been relatives.

[bbfan1991]

I would like Shabnam to come back:amazed:.

[waterhog]

I would like Shabnam to come back:amazed:.

i remember her - she was great - she was a bit like that one in normal big brother - i forgot her name - anyone help me ?

[Shanna]

I am finally liking this new Lucy Beale!


Me too! Took me a while for her to grow on me, but got there :)

[waterhog]

thats was her name shabnam

[Redway]

What a nauseating crock of crap tonight. I don't give one about Tamwar and Afia, nor this silly Jean/Michael storyline. I mean, I'm sure we saw all of this last year. Seriously, it's like the same stories on repeat.

[bbfan1991]

Poor Jean. Michael is so bad but he is a good character and Janine is vile.

Denise and Kim made me laugh, ditto Zainab and Masood, plus Fatboy and co having some light hearted fun.

Derek had some decent scenes tonight. I understand how Afia feels that Zainab is so domineering and that she has no control over her life or she can't do anything with Tamwar.

[Marsh.]

Afia is a bitch. I'd have thrown her out when she was banging on about how many numbers she's got. After all the Masood's have done for her considering what her father did, I'd send her on her merry way.

Anyway, this Jean/Michael stuff is stupid. Michael did the same mind games with Ronnie last year with putting the baby in the park etc and now we're supposed to expect everyone to fall for it all again? Bull. Roxy really is a dimwit.

Having just read this story on DS I don't think I'll be bothering with this programme much longer.

Kat's having an affair. I know... how original. :rolleyes:

EastEnders bosses have announced details of a major summer storyline which will see Kat Moon embark on an affair with a mystery lover.

Viewers will see Kat return to Walford later this week, but her problems with husband Alfie are far from over as she starts to fear that the spark in their marriage has fizzled out.

Kat (Jessie Wallace) tries her best to get things back on track with Alfie (Shane Richie), but he fails to realise that she wants the passion back in their relationship.

As Kat isn't getting the attention that she craves at home, she later finds it impossible to resist when someone else starts showering her with affection.

The Queen Vic's landlady is plagued with guilt once she starts cheating on Alfie again, knowing that she is making a huge mistake. However, Kat's attempts to call off her affair prove futile as she cannot resist her new boyfriend.

EastEnders chiefs have confirmed that this will be a long-running storyline, leaving viewers guessing over who the mystery man is for quite some time.

At least five names are in the frame, including Ray Dixon, Michael Moon and Branning brothers Derek, Jack and Max.

Even the BBC show's cast and crew will be left in the dark over the storyline, as all scenes featuring Kat and her lover will be filmed with an extra to prevent leaks.

EastEnders' executive producer Lorraine Newman commented: "The consequences are not only great for Kat and Alfie, but also for each individual suspect. The audience will join the cast and crew guessing across the summer and autumn as we eliminate the suspects one at a time, leading to one almighty explosion."

EastEnders fans will see the storyline begin on screen later this month.

[Ryan57]

What an episode. I loved Michael before, I love him even more now. Brilliant actor is Steve John Sheperd.

Michael has now become my favourite character in any soap. :p

[Redway]

The sooner these Kirkwood episodes go the better. Stupid man.

[Redway]

Hang on, so Kat's having yet another affair? I am too annoyed to even go into what I feel. Seriously, this is actually the worst this show has ever been. If you think 2010 was bad, come and see this.

[Marsh.]

God knows why they're making a big thing out of it. The last time she was getting some behind the bins in the alleyway, WeakAlfie said as long as she didn't tell him he didn't care who she slept with as long as it made her happy. Diabolical.

The worst thing is, this is a story created after Kirkwood left. Awful.

[Bollo]

Oh my it's hard to watch the Jean/ Michael story as he is being so cruel and I feel really sorry for poor batty old Jean.....

Would be good if Kats affair was with Michael tho...

[Firewire]

The Kat affair will be BK. Stories are planned months and months in advance. New EP stories won't be in affect until the end of the year.

[Firewire]

And I think Kat will have an affair with Michael.

I felt really bad for Jean tonight. Such a shame.

[Firewire]

And I think Kat will have an affair with Michael.

I felt really bad for Jean tonight. Such a shame.

[Redway]

God knows why they're making a big thing out of it. The last time she was getting some behind the bins in the alleyway, WeakAlfie said as long as she didn't tell him he didn't care who she slept with as long as it made her happy. Diabolical.

The worst thing is, this is a story created after Kirkwood left. Awful.
Not really. Bryan Kirkwood's name is still on the credits. I don't think Lorraine's work starts properly until August. But it said it was over the summer, so surely she had some input into the storyline. Seriously, if this woman turns out to be another Bryan Kirkwood, I'll simply stop watching. We've had to endure more than enough crap during this era.

[Shanna]

Watched tonights episode on iplayer there...missed it earlier. And already really despising the return of Jessie Wallace.

During the end scene Kat says to Michael " You never met Kat Slater, did you?" Seriously, why do they keep hitting us with this character? And ofcourse, we have the already done a million times before cheat storyline coming up. New storylines, puhlease?

Anyway, moving on...found myself sat thinking again how great an actress Gillian Wright (Jean Slater) is. My husband suffers from Bipolar Disorder and I do think she's right on with her portrayal of it. All round, I really like her.

[Shanna]

Watched tonights episode on iplayer there...missed it earlier. And already really despising the return of Jessie Wallace.

During the end scene Kat says to Michael " You never met Kat Slater, did you?" Seriously, why do they keep hitting us with this character? And ofcourse, we have the already done a million times before cheat storyline coming up. New storylines, puhlease?

Anyway, moving on...found myself sat thinking again how great an actress Gillian Wright (Jean Slater) is. My husband suffers from Bipolar Disorder and I do think she's right on with her portrayal of it. All round, I really like her.

[InOne]

Watched tonights episode on iplayer there...missed it earlier. And already really despising the return of Jessie Wallace.

During the end scene Kat says to Michael " You never met Kat Slater, did you?" Seriously, why do they keep hitting us with this character? And ofcourse, we have the already done a million times before cheat storyline coming up. New storylines, puhlease?

Anyway, moving on...found myself sat thinking again how great an actress Gillian Wright (Jean Slater) is. My husband suffers from Bipolar Disorder and I do think she's right on with her portrayal of it. All round, I really like her.

That line to Michael was really cringy, just got she puts on a bit more slap and does her hair doesn't make her Kat Slater again. That once great character died many years ago and will never return.

And I'm not too sure the bipolar stuff, with Jean you'd think she has something else rather than that, the mental illness just seems to come along to suit certain storylines these days. And the way the rest of the characters treat her is infuriating. So patronising and talking to her like a baby, Jean's no angels herself and can be pretty calculating at times.

[Redway]

That line to Michael was really cringy, just got she puts on a bit more slap and does her hair doesn't make her Kat Slater again. That once great character died many years ago and will never return.

And I'm not too sure the bipolar stuff, with Jean you'd think she has something else rather than that, the mental illness just seems to come along to suit certain storylines these days. And the way the rest of the characters treat her is infuriating. So patronising and talking to her like a baby, Jean's no angels herself and can be pretty calculating at times.

The thing with Jean is by nature she's quite stupid and extremely kind-hearted, so people think they can take advantage of her. None of that's related to Bipolar Disorder, as it doesn't affect your intelligence. Jean's a very bad example for someone with Bipolar Disorder, because a lot of people won't be able to distinguish her condition from her already being a bit ditzy and airheaded. She never used to be like that, did she, though? But since late 2010 she's become a total ****** and Bipolar people are nothing like that.

Stacey was a good example.

[Me. I Am Salman]

Great week imo, and I thought Kat was great yesterday.
Gillian Wright is a brilliant actor. :)