Coronavirus Outbreak : Plan B

[Vanessa]

Well, it's worth a try to see if it works.

[arista]

Well, it's worth a try to see if it works.


Yes Full facts Bank Holiday Monday
Johnson PM Live


It appears Pubs will not be part of the vaccine pass
now.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

6.918 new cases

177 new hospitalisations (2.317 in total)

ICU total now at 730 (decrease of 4)

16 new deaths

[arista]

[Boris Johnson DROPS Covid passports for pubs
as it is revealed the first pilot events to
help nightlife reopen will focus on testing before and after
entering venues - as ministers warn certificates
for public events might not be ready until Autumn]



OK Vicky
is that better for us?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9433971/Coronavirus-UK-Boris-Johnson-DROPS-pub-passports.html

[arista]

Sunday 4/4/21

[4 April 2021 — No data reported for Wales]

Today 10 dead
2,297 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,536

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
517

126,836 total UK deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Vanessa]

Sunday 4/4/21

[4 April 2021 — No data reported for Wales]

Today 10 dead
2,297 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,536

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
517

126,836 total UK deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
Wow, that is a big improvement.
I know weekends numbers are lower, but generally all the data is going down.

[Cherie]

Arista will be along in a minute to intone we are in a long lockdown :laugh:

[Cherie]

The Welsh haven’t given data since Thurs so figures wii be screwed next week

[arista]

Arista will be along in a minute to intone we are in a long lockdown :laugh:


Yes
soon we could get bad numbers
as we mix more
be more realistic, I say.

[Vanessa]

Think positive we can beat this! :fist:

[Nicky91]

of course UK can beat this so you guys can have a relaxed summer, i am optimistic too about you guys


but next year is what more matters to get focus back on then, when vaccines wear off, since booster jabs i think only provide protection for a couple months, but maybe enough to get back onto corona measures, and closing schools in time for a new wave

[Crimson Dynamo]

Think positive we can beat this! :fist:

haircuts and garden centres tomorrow

:dance2:

[Cherie]

haircuts and garden centres tomorrow

:dance2:

Its 12th in England for haircuts

[Vanessa]

I'm in desperate need of a haircut :joker:

[Kate!]

I'm in desperate need of a haircut :joker:

Me too Ness and my roots are showing lol. Need my blonde topped up.

[arista]

Think positive we can beat this! :fist:


I am Positive

But so many get close to each other
without good masks,
still spreading China's Deadly Covid-19.


To many young fools are not aware or do not care,
they are taking it home to their older parents.



Johnson Prime Minister
must do more broadcasts
with his 2 Team.

[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Step bolloxio

We are out and about and getting on with life

Stay local my banjo

[arista]

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[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/05/07/article-9435859-41347900-990_964x543.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9435859/Boris-Johnson-plans-two-Covid-tests-week-everyone.html


I can see alot of Low paid
workers Not doing any home Covid tests.

(Live Debate on Ch5HD AM now)


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/05/06/41337578-9435859-At_a_press_conference_this_evening_the_Prime_Minis ter_will_confi-a-4_1617600915779.jpg

[Nicky91]

France: investigation into certain restaurants whom are illegally open and organizing luxury dinners

https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20210405-french-interior-minister-to-investigate-alleged-high-end-dinners-in-paris

[arista]

5PM
Live from No.9 Media Room

Johnson PM with his 2 Technical Boffins


BBC1HD
SkyNewsHD
Radio 5
LBC
Times Radio DAB

[arista]

France: investigation into certain restaurants whom are illegally open and organizing luxury dinners

https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20210405-french-interior-minister-to-investigate-alleged-high-end-dinners-in-paris


They should have delivered them all
Stayed legal.

[Crimson Dynamo]

12 person queue outside the local Turkish barber just now. Not standing in that in -5C windchill

[arista]

12 person queue outside the local Turkish barber just now. Not standing in that in -5C windchill


Yes Good on Turkish Quality Barbers.


Wicked Wind Chill

[arista]

1379009070804262912

[Nicky91]

while i wait for netherlands covid numbers for today, nice to report the numbers worldwide (and mostly important, total of how many recovered worldwide)

as of April 5th 2021 14:51 CET

confirmed cases 131.342.071 million

deaths 2.853.631 million

recoveries 74.496.125 million

[Nicky91]

Germany: from tomorrow Netherlands are considered a high risk country and will close its border, only allow people in with two negative tests

[arista]

India has the Highest
100,000 New Covid Confirmed cases

Many Markets they may have a mask
but they are all to close.


Ref: CNN HD

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

5.365 new cases (huge decrease compared to yesterdays 6.918)

2374 in total of hospitalisations now (sunday that were 2.317)

1.628 in total of patients being treated at nursing wards now (sunday that was 1.587)

on ICU's total of 746 patients now, (16 more compared to sunday 730)

8 new deaths

[Nicky91]

careful we think we are going out of the third wave (without it going completely worse)

but lets wait until wednesday for some real important numbers, after easter break etc

[arista]

Monday 5/4/21

Today 26 Died
2,762 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,536

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
517


126,862 Total UK deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

LIVE


9 Downing Street.


All Going to plan
but he just warned numbers will go UP

[Alf]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/2FC0/production/_117842221_sun-nc.pngFree Panini football stickers for everyone except for Scousers.

[arista]

He (Prime Minister) urges people to get tested
even if they do not have any symptoms.

[arista]

The Variants Numbers


https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/D0bdPOpb6MwNGI4F2znD6g/https/media.fyre.co/zMCSCLv9RKOQvfDl7e4w_chart%204.png

[arista]

No need for a Vaccine Pass
At Pub Gardens
Shops
or Hairdressers


Covid Certification Johnson Calls it.


He "hopes" people can travel May 17th

[Life will begin to get back to some semblance
of normality - but we are still some way off, says PM]

[arista]

A link of what has been said

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-news-live-latest-uk-updates-boris-johnson-vaccine-passports-summer-holidays-coronavirus-announcement-12266329

[arista]

Short
The PM and his 2
have Concluded.

[Cherie]

No need for a Vaccine Pass
At Pub Gardens
Shops
or Hairdressers


Covid Certification Johnson Calls it.


He "hopes" people can travel May 17th

[Life will begin to get back to some semblance
of normality - but we are still some way off, says PM]

Well he would call it that because it is not solely about vaccination, if you have had the virus recently or a negative test will all be part of it I think?

[Nicky91]

two negative tests i think Cherie


its usually that, twice negative tested is better, cuz someone can sometimes test negative one time and then positive the other, or vice versa

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/04/64-arrests-and-dozens-of-fines-as-police-break-up-illegal-party-in-utrecht/

Netherlands: 64 arrests, dozens of fines as police break up illegal party in utrecht

Eight people who are said to have organised the party, which also had a DJ, were also picked up.

The police went to the location after a tip-off, and sealed off the entrances so all partygoers could be checked as they tried to leave.

In total, 57 people were given on the spot fines and 54, who were without ID, were taken to an arrest centre to wait for family members to bring their papers, police said in a statement.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: travel operator D-Reizen bankrupt, due to corona not enough money from holidays, also the government refund was too late to save them

D-Reizen has 285 stores throughout the country, with 1.150 employees


a curator is examining possibilities of a new start under a new name, new investor

[arista]

On Radio 4 Friday 8PM
Any Questions, I record,

First caller wants to take her mother out of
a care home in a wheelchair to the Park,
she can, but on return must Isolate for 14 days
in the care home.


I am sorry she is so Desperate
to take her mother to the park.

But I agree with the care home
we are in a Pandemic
this Deadly Covid-19
can KILL off all in that Care Home.

[arista]

EasyJet: Two test travel plan would be too expensive




[B]Look you Ponce of a CEO
buy them in Bulk
Total cost £30-40


[EasyJet CEO Johan Lundgren said:
"You wouldn't open
up international travel for everyone,
but only those who can afford it."]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56647119

[arista]

Bloody Prime Minister
now having to go over (SkyNewsHD , BBCnewsHD)
what he said yesterday's road map, again.

Next Time Johnson Stop doing 30mins
Fast Briefing
Do a POXY HOUR

[Vicky.]

Ugh. Had it out with father in law yesterday who is whinging about society opening back up again somewhat. He said even with the slowish way we are going..we are definitely gunna have another wave, should stay in, halt opening up...etc. However, he also aknowledges the huge changes the vaccinations have made. He says the vulnerable are no longer vulerable, and I tend to agree. So I asked him what the issue with another wave would be, even if we had millions infected. If those who are at risk of bad infection are no longer at risk of said bad infection, and infact will be extremely likely to have asymptomatic infection. Do infection rates even matter anymore? It seemed to be the first time he had even thought of it that way. He sent me a message this morning thanking me :laugh: And said he had been worrying himself sick but I was right. Another wave, in a poplation that has largely protected its vulnerable people as much as is actually possible..is NOT really a issue. He then noted that the local paper has apparently gone back to reporting infection rates instead of deaths, and hes only just noticed.

I am not understanding the angst about another possible wave, if we do believe in the vaccination program and believe the numbers are correct, which as far as I know we have no reason at all to disbelieve and the falling numbers alongside the vaccinations going up kind of...well prove that it IS that effective at keeping people safe?

[arista]

[well prove that it IS that effective at keeping people safe?]


Yes thats the plan,

[user104658]

Ugh. Had it out with father in law yesterday who is whinging about society opening back up again somewhat. He said even with the slowish way we are going..we are definitely gunna have another wave, should stay in, halt opening up...etc. However, he also aknowledges the huge changes the vaccinations have made. He says the vulnerable are no longer vulerable, and I tend to agree. So I asked him what the issue with another wave would be, even if we had millions infected. If those who are at risk of bad infection are no longer at risk of said bad infection, and infact will be extremely likely to have asymptomatic infection. Do infection rates even matter anymore? It seemed to be the first time he had even thought of it that way. He sent me a message this morning thanking me :laugh: And said he had been worrying himself sick but I was right. Another wave, in a poplation that has largely protected its vulnerable people as much as is actually possible..is NOT really a issue. He then noted that the local paper has apparently gone back to reporting infection rates instead of deaths, and hes only just noticed.

I am not understanding the angst about another possible wave, if we do believe in the vaccination program and believe the numbers are correct, which as far as I know we have no reason at all to disbelieve and the falling numbers alongside the vaccinations going up kind of...well prove that it IS that effective at keeping people safe?

The actual medical worry of a 3rd wave is that higher infection numbers of mild infection (vastly) increases the risk of mutations, and the more mutations there are the higher the likelihood that one of those mutations will not be recognised by vaccine antibodies and then we're back to square 1. Well, not square 1 exactly, it wouldn't require a whole new vaccine development as the current ones can be tweaked for mutations, but it would be square 1 for vaccine manufacturing and rollout.

In theory, though, they just need to keep doing widescale lab testing - identify mutations as they emerge, motitor for any that are showing signs of dominance, tweak the vaccine and roll out a booster. In theory, we DO have time to do that between identifying an emerging strain and that strain becoming widespread.

It's also not a DEFINITE problem, just a theoretical one.

But yes other than that - the papers switching from deaths to infection numbers is exactly what they did last suimmer when deaths went way down... they'll report whichever number sounds "biggest and scariest" becausr that sells papers. It's a really toxic cycle. Same as demanding lockdowns when things are open, and demanding freedoms when things are locked down.

[Vicky.]

The actual medical worry of a 3rd wave is that higher infection numbers of mild infection (vastly) increases the risk of mutations, and the more mutations there are the higher the likelihood that one of those mutations will not be recognised by vaccine antibodies and then we're back to square 1. Well, not square 1 exactly, it wouldn't require a whole new vaccine development as the current ones can be tweaked for mutations, but it would be square 1 for vaccine manufacturing and rollout.

In theory, though, they just need to keep doing widescale lab testing - identify mutations as they emerge, motitor for any that are showing signs of dominance, tweak the vaccine and roll out a booster. In theory, we DO have time to do that between identifying an emerging strain and that strain becoming widespread.

It's also not a DEFINITE problem, just a theoretical one.

But yes other than that - the papers switching from deaths to infection numbers is exactly what they did last suimmer when deaths went way down... they'll report whichever number sounds "biggest and scariest" because that sells papers. It's a really toxic cycle. Same as demanding lockdowns when things are open, and demanding freedoms when things are locked down.

Very interesting, thanks. Its really not something for the 'general public' to be too concerned with though? And is unlikely to be any huge issue even if it did potentially arise unless we 'take our eye off the ball' so to speak?

Are we still going with asymptomatic infections are much less likely to pass onto others also? Oddly, I cannot find too much data on that..where..to me thats one of the most important considerations in any of this?! If so..we cannot do anything about anything more at all really. Unless people want lockdown forever, this is kind of...it? If we cannot develop a vaccine that stops people actually catching and/or passing on (which I assume we cannot, or we would have, or it would be 'in development' and big news), this is the next best thing...freedom, with plenty of keeping up with things behind the scenes.

[bots]

i've been hyper careful for a year, and knowing that 3 weeks after i had my first jab i was able to go out into the big wide world with a pretty high degree of confidence of no serious illness is such a wonderful thing. This current lock down has gone on to long, and if anything, i think the government have been over cautious, which is very unlike them

People shouldn't underestimate the desperation that people feel to return to a normal life. The novelty of lockdown and restrictions has long since worn off.

[arista]

Next Monday
Wales will let the English in.

How nice of them.

[Cherie]

Next Monday
Wales will let the English in.

How nice of them.

Kate will be first across the border :laugh:

[bots]

Kate will be transporting in a suitcase full of covid :hee:

[user104658]

Very interesting, thanks. Its really not something for the 'general public' to be too concerned with though? And is unlikely to be any huge issue even if it did potentially arise unless we 'take our eye off the ball' so to speak?

Are we still going with asymptomatic infections are much less likely to pass onto others also? Oddly, I cannot find too much data on that..where..to me thats one of the most important considerations in any of this?! If so..we cannot do anything about anything more at all really. Unless people want lockdown forever, this is kind of...it? If we cannot develop a vaccine that stops people actually catching and/or passing on (which I assume we cannot, or we would have, or it would be 'in development' and big news), this is the next best thing...freedom, with plenty of keeping up with things behind the scenes.

They just don't really know in terms of transmission. In theory coughing/sneezing etc. is the main thing that generates the droplets and aerosols to pass it on, but they've recently discovered that a lot of "normal human activity" like heavy breathing (from exercise), or even just speaking loudly, generates aerosols which wasn't actually known pre-Covid. There's also the issue of viral load - how high is it in unsymptomatic people, how high does it need to be to be a significant risk of transmission, etc. which are also still being worked out but this is research that takes years.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: tuesdays recap of the numbers so far

in one week time, 7% less new cases, but number of tests is lower 10%


the coming weeks are crucial if they keep decreasing or not, the R-Rate at March 22nd was 1,01, decrease of cases was in all age groups but mostly with people below 18, and over 80


number of ICU patients climbed with 19% last week, 10% higher than one week earlier

3% more hospitalisations than the week before, and in one week time 142 deaths

[arista]

Poor Old Janet Street Porter
Angry at Scotland.

She said there are no Places to stay for a Holiday.

At the Start of LW ITV1HD
today

[Crimson Dynamo]

i've been hyper careful for a year, and knowing that 3 weeks after i had my first jab i was able to go out into the big wide world with a pretty high degree of confidence of no serious illness is such a wonderful thing. This current lock down has gone on to long, and if anything, i think the government have been over cautious, which is very unlike them

People shouldn't underestimate the desperation that people feel to return to a normal life. The novelty of lockdown and restrictions has long since worn off.

they need to end this ridiculous lockdown and end it now

the games up, they have the vaccine, no more excuses of fearmongering

[Vicky.]

Poor Old Janet Street Porter
Angry at Scotland.

She said there are no Places to stay for a Holiday.

At the Start of LW ITV1HD
today

Priorities? :D

Mind, a taxi driver last week was telling me his sister manages the familys properties in Cornwall..they have a string of holiday type lets apparently (lucky sods, really) and he was saying, though of course I know its just hearsay really and could just be bollocks designed to ease awkward silences or something..that they are now fully booked June this year right through 2023 and almost all the bookings came in in the last month :S If thats true, I can well believe its going to be hard to find anywhere to go. And this is even before we are 'allowed' to holiday.

[Nicky91]

i feel more optimistic now regarding decreasing of new cases

also it was indeed bit fearmongering maybe regarding third wave, i carefully say i am happy it didn't last really that long, but we'll see in tomorrows numbers


not too keen on ICU's being on the high side :( but its good to see not many cases among over 80's age group since that is a risk group

[GiRTh]

Had my first jab yesterday. Feeling very shivery today.

[arista]

1379313045013430272


Good on Simon
getting the Hot Drinks
for the Gatwick Live outside team , interviews.
Today.

[user104658]

Poor Old Janet Street Porter
Angry at Scotland.

She said there are no Places to stay for a Holiday.

At the Start of LW ITV1HD
today


We have a 3-night break booked at the end of may and another 7 nights up along the north coast in July :hee:. Guess she wasn’t quick enough :idc:.

[bots]

i'm just going to drop in on LT, TS, Josie and James for a few days each ... problem solved

[arista]

We have a 3-night break booked at the end of may and another 7 nights up along the north coast in July :hee:. Guess she wasn’t quick enough :idc:.




Yes she Shouted out Scottish
taking they own coast bookings
Angry at you TS.

[Zizu]

Poor Old Janet Street Porter
Angry at Scotland.

She said there are no Places to stay for a Holiday.

At the Start of LW ITV1HD
today



JSP !!!!

I’m surprised she’s not still in hiding..

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/iv-drip/janet-street-porter-heard-about-jimmy-savile-abuse-claims-8199072.html



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[arista]

Had my first jab yesterday. Feeling very shivery today.


[You may also have flu like
symptoms with episodes of shivering and
shaking for a day or two.
However, a high temperature could also
indicate that you have COVID-19 or another
infection (see advice on page 5).
You can rest and take the normal dose
of paracetamol (follow the advice in the packaging)
to help make you feel better.]



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[bots]

Had my first jab yesterday. Feeling very shivery today.

i felt like poop the day after, but it soon goes away

[Vicky.]

Had my first jab yesterday. Feeling very shivery today.

Seems quite 50/50 anecdotally, with those I know who have had it. Between feeling really crappy in various ways for a day or two...and feeling nothing (and thus, in a few cases, worrying they hadnt been given the right vaccine as they had heard everyone be ill :laugh: )

I know the stats or whatever seem to say its maybe 1/10 people who experience symptoms, but that seems VERY low from those I know, unless we all just..either have a crappy immune system, or a very sensistive one..depending.

Gavin was 'very' ill, but only for a day...beginning about 10 hours or so after the jab. Said it was like the most intense flu type thing he had ever had, but short, basically condensing flu down into a day..so really horrible feeling, but he said despite feeling so bad, he would take that over normal flu anyway day it was so short. Not sure about others, but the only time I ever had real flu, half of the issue was it feeling like it would never end. Like almost 2 whole weeks of feeling like death. I think I agree on preferring suffering worse illness/pain but it being shorter like.

Funnily enough though, when we had covid...for both of us it was like a very intense flu (proper flu, not a cold obviously..like flu is really awful and this was like flu on speed) but for only 2 days, followed by a while of having 0 taste at all, I lost most of my sense of smell too for a while, he didn't...then a week or so of feeling really really tired..like to the extent where it was like trying to walk through bloody treacle even trying to go to the loo. Given the reason for the illness bout after vaccination is your immune system responding to it...its made me wonder if the flu type part of covid...was actually covid or it was the immune response there too! And basically, the lack of taste/smell and tiredness was the covid for us.. :laugh:

[GiRTh]

I felt fine till about 9pm last night when I got a little bit of a head ache. Come bed time I was shivering in a onesie with the hoodup, dressing gown, slipper socks and heating on full blast. Lasted till this morning but feel much better now. Only a bit shivery now

[arista]

Tuesday 6/4/21

Today 20 Died.
2,379 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,536

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
517


126,822 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/06/15/article-9440429-41405794-269_964x543.jpg

[Yesterday a tranche of papers released by SAGE
said lifting curbs fully in June
could cause push NHS to brink
Said social distancing,
mask wearing and
Covid vaccine passports need
to remain in place for another year]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9440429/Whats-TRUTH-SAGE-models.html

[Ammi]

Had my first jab yesterday. Feeling very shivery today.

I felt fine till about 9pm last night when I got a little bit of a head ache. Come bed time I was shivering in a onesie with the hoodup, dressing gown, slipper socks and heating on full blast. Lasted till this morning but feel much better now. Only a bit shivery now

......awwww, I’m so pleased you’ve had it...:love:...yeah, I think that the symptoms are quite flu-like but they go as suddenly as they came and last around 24hrs so not too long...I’m glad that you’re on your first step to being safer...:hug:..

[Cherie]

Tuesday 30/3/21

Today 56 have died
4,040 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,153

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
583

126,670 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Tuesday 6/4/21

Today 20 Died.
2,379 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,536

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
517


126,822 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


.

[Vanessa]

.

Things keep improving. Brilliant!

[GiRTh]

......awwww, I’m so pleased you’ve had it...:love:...yeah, I think that the symptoms are quite flu-like but they go as suddenly as they came and last around 24hrs so not too long...I’m glad that you’re on your first step to being safer...:hug:..hopefully it wont last much longer and its actually been milder than I thought. Touch wood I dont have it bad tomorrow. :joker:

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[arista]

Peru
Clouded Covid Election

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[Nicky91]

we're getting more test events now


our health minister Hugo de Jonge gave green light also for certain zoo's, garden centres, stores, festivals, football/sports events that people can indicate what they want to get tested for

how we want to give people some hopes again, more optimism to fight anti corona lockdown protests

despite slow vaccine rollout, but we can do things on two negative tests as well



theme park like Efteling might be able to let people in via their bungalow park (two negative tests there) same for zoo beekse bergen also via their cabin resort via the two negative tests

terraces is being discussed still too, if we should reopen when weather gets better again

[Vanessa]

we're getting more test events now


our health minister Hugo de Jonge gave green light also for certain zoo's, garden centres, stores, festivals, football/sports events that people can indicate what they want to get tested for

how we want to give people some hopes again, more optimism to fight anti corona lockdown protests

despite slow vaccine rollout, but we can do things on two negative tests as well



theme park like Efteling might be able to let people in via their bungalow park (two negative tests there) same for zoo beekse bergen also via their cabin resort via the two negative tests

terraces is being discussed still too, if we should reopen when weather gets better again
Yes, outside is safer.

[Crimson Dynamo]

SeuVZ9fdUNM

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: at the 3 group matches of Euro Cup are 12.000 people allowed in the Amsterdam Arena

in case the corona situation either improves or gets worse the total of audience might be changed, so more or less people in the stadium

but anyway what is required are two negative tests

also at round of 16 duel played in amsterdam too are same amount of audience allowed

[Alf]

I won't be attending any more sporting venues until they kick politics out of sport.

[Nicky91]

SeuVZ9fdUNM

US, well they have over 100 million vaccinated, so wouldn't be surprised if there are loads vaccinated among that audience there :)

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

6.409 new cases (831 more than yesterday) but compared to weeks before still decreasing

60 new hospitalisations (2.558 in total)

26 new ICU patients (776 in total)

now 188 care homes where there are new cases compared to last week 203

[Crimson Dynamo]

US, well they have over 100 million vaccinated, so wouldn't be surprised if there are loads vaccinated among that audience there :)

so you accept now that vaccination is the way out of hiding in our homes?

[Nicky91]

so you accept now that vaccination is the way out of hiding in our homes?

either vaccination or two negative covid tests

yes

i am becoming slowly more and more optimistic now at least we got two options, i mean we got a slow vaccine rollout here but that should not stop us of course

[arista]

Columbia
a 104 year old Lady
has beaten Covid Twice,
Well done her.

Reported on WION HD.

[Zizu]

Columbia
a 104 year old Lady
has beaten Covid Twice,
Well done her.

Reported on WION HD.



It’s not long ago they were saying that you couldn’t get it twice !!


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[arista]

It’s not long ago they were saying that you couldn’t get it twice !!




Yes it's a Virus able to change
and carry on.


Covid-19 is staying.

[arista]

Wednesday 7/4/21

Today 45 Died
2,763 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,536

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
469

126,927 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Wednesday 31/3/21

Today 43 have Died
4,052 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,176

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
568

126,173 Total UK Deaths



https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Wednesday 7/4/21

Today 45 Died
2,763 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,536

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
469

126,927 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

.

[bots]

the number of new covid cases is dropping like a stone

[arista]

the number of new covid cases is dropping like a stone


Of Course,
Long Lockdown

[arista]

India
is in a terrible state.

Ch4HDnews showed the Hindu Festival
last week
Super Intense Covid Spreader

Utter Fools.

It has spread so much
115,000 cases just today.

Mumbai is the Worse zone.
Each Zone will control its Lockdown.


In Brazil
Even worse no Lockdown?
More than 4,000 Deaths today.

[Vicky.]

Of Course,
Long Lockdown

Bugger all to do with lockdown. Else the numbers would have been dropping for ages now, since what..a month after the lockdown..something like that

[Vanessa]

Bugger all to do with lockdown. Else the numbers would have been dropping for ages now, since what..a month after the lockdown..something like that

It's the vaccine, it works.
I'm hopeful for the future now.

[Vanessa]

Brazil should have been in lockdown ages ago.
Crazy that they aren't

[Vicky.]

It's the vaccine, it works.
I'm hopeful for the future now.

Yup, huge drops are happening at the same time vaccine numbers are rising.

[Cherie]

India
is in a terrible state.

Ch4HDnews showed the Hindu Festival
last week
Super Intense Covid Spreader

Utter Fools.

It has spread so much
115,000 cases just today.

Mumbai is the Worse zone.
Each Zone will control its Lockdown.


In Brazil
Even worse no Lockdown?
More than 4,000 Deaths today.


Brazil’s health care is on the point of collapse

[Vanessa]

Brazil’s health care is on the point of collapse

Why aren't they on lockdown? I don't get it :shocked:

[bots]

The Brazil PM doesn't care about covid, they won't do lock downs

[Zizu]

The Brazil PM doesn't care about covid, they won't do lock downs



4,000 deaths per day and rising !!

That equates to 1.5 million DEATHS per year !!


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[Zizu]

Are there any figures showing how many Covid deaths ( UK or Worldwide ) are people who REFUSED the vaccine when offered ??


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[user104658]

Are there any figures showing how many Covid deaths ( UK or Worldwide ) are people who REFUSED the vaccine when offered ??


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That data would be impossible to compile for data protection reasons. In fact, I doubt turning down a vaccine even appears on your medical record in the first place (and it should remain that way).

[arista]

Nations Over 10,000 Deaths Covid-19 Worldwide


559,049 USA deaths
340,776 Brazil deaths
205,002 Mexico deaths
166,177 India deaths
127,171 United Kingdom deaths
112,374 Italy deaths
99,800 Russia deaths
97,444 France deaths
77,566 Germany deaths
76,037 Spain deaths
64,524 Colombia deaths
63,699 Iran deaths
56,634 Argentina deaths
55,703 Poland deaths
53,411 Peru deaths
53,111 South Africa deaths
42,064 Indonesia deaths
37,178 Ukraine deaths
32,943 Turkey deaths
27,329 Czechia deaths
24,561 Romania deaths
23,796 Chile deaths
23,247 Belgium deaths
23,158 Canada deaths
22,409 Hungary deaths
17,057 Ecuador deaths
16,890 Portugal deaths
16,850 Netherlands deaths
15,026 Pakistan deaths
14,572 Iraq deaths
14,059 Philippines deaths
13,918 Bulgaria deaths
13,578 Sweden deaths
12,366 Bolivia deaths
12,253 Egypt deaths
10,432 Switzerland deaths
10,243 Slovakia deaths

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[arista]

Why aren't they on lockdown? I don't get it :shocked:


As all have Posted
The Brazil Leader does not want them.
He survived Covid, like Trump did.


[Bolsonaro again refuses lockdown as Brazil COVID crisis drags on

Meanwhile, authorities reported Brazil’s first confirmed
case of the South African variant of the coronavirus
on Wednesday, fuelling added concerns about
the country’s ability to cope with surging infections.]

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/7/bolsonaro-again-refuses-lockdown-brazil-covid-crisis-drags-on

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BBC Text:
[Daily Star's main story is the tale of a pig
called Milton who "escaped the chop" by
leaping off a trailer while on his way
to the abattoir.
After they found the runaway pig,
his owners - a family in Devon - decided to
keep him. "He's become quite a famous
pig over the last 24 hours," his owner said.]

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/04/ministers-are-working-on-plans-to-reopen-cafe-terraces-from-april-21/

Netherlands: mp's are working on plans to reopen cafe and restaurant terraces from April 21

The curfew, introduced in January, could also be scrapped from that date, NOS said. Any relaxation of the rules depends on coronavirus infection rates, which have been dropping in recent days.

Other rule relaxations on the horizon include allowing universities and colleges to resume more normal teaching, and to expand the options for secondary schools and after school clubs. The number of visitors to private homes many also be increased from one to two.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: police have arrested a man whom wanted to commit a attack with a firework bomb at a vaccination centre in Den Helder

suspect is a 37 yr old man whom also is from that same area, he was arrested March 18th but the police only could make this public until now

his custody has been extended yesterday for 90 more days, investigation onto maybe more suspects is still ongoing

the court speaks of these plans as an act of terrorism

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

7.833 new cases 1.439 more than yesterday (average still decreasing)

269 new hospitalisations 16 less than yesterday (2.525 in total)

57 new ICU patients same amount as yesterday (798 in total)

19 new deaths

[arista]

Thursday 8/4/21

Today 53 have Died
3,030 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,124

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
440

126,980 Total UK deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bots]

The number of weekly coronavirus deaths in England and Wales has fallen by 92% from the second wave peak roughly two months ago, the latest ONS figures suggest.

And deaths involving Covid-19 among people aged 80 and over have fallen by a slighter higher percentage - down 92.9% since the second-wave peak, the figures indicate.

A total of 379 Covid-19 deaths in that age group occurred in England and Wales in the week ending 19 March - down from 5,354 deaths in the week ending 22 January.

Deaths for those aged 75-79 dropped 93.4% in the same period, compared with falls of 92.4% for those aged 70-74, 90.8% for those aged 65-69 and 83.7% for those aged 60-64.

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[user104658]

Thursday 1/4/21

Today 51 have died
4,479 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,957


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
547


Thursday 8/4/21

Today 53 have Died
3,030 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,124

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
440


Toy Soldier's Amazing Comparative Stats (tm)

Deaths
51 < 53 (Up 4%)

New Cases
4479 > 3030 (Down 32%)

In Hospital
3957 > 3124 (Down 21%)

On Ventilator
547 > 440 (Down 20%)


***NOTE***: The slightly higher deaths number for yesterday compared to the previous Thursday is most likely due to the "catching up" effect from the Easter weekend, rather than reflecting an increase in death rate. All other numbers still looking good.

[arista]

Jet 2
CEO is so unhappy with the Government stance
he is now said not till June
to book with them

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

7.716 new cases (average continues to decrease)

262 new hospitalisations 7 less than yesterday (2.495 in total)

45 new ICU patients 12 less than yesterday (784 in total)

41 new deaths

[Cherie]

I was just reading that Italy had 600 deaths one day this week, apparently they have been vaccinating the young fit folk :umm2:



Over the past week, France has recorded 1,900 covid-19 deaths. Italy has recorded 3,000.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/italy-vaccines-death-toll/2021/04/08/2d621f12-971a-11eb-8f0a-3384cf4fb399_story.html

[Nicky91]

oopsie Italy :(



but back to my nation, loads of interest for the test events again, especially keukenhof now these times and also many sign ups already for ESC people who specifically are letting themselves get tested for that


you just see the optimism, positivity returning here



but also good our new case, hospitalisation, icu, care home numbers are going down smoothly

[arista]

[Covid-19: People can start thinking
about foreign travel - Shapps]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56682226

[arista]

Friday 9/4/21

Today 60 have Died
3,150 Have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,005

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
421


Total UK Deaths :127,040


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyjLjeYWUAAVsRV?format=jpg&name=small

[Nicky91]

good amount of recoveries there in Turkey

to more discuss this in a more optimistic way


but tbh daily death number is still way too high

[Vanessa]

I was just reading that Italy had 600 deaths one day this week, apparently they have been vaccinating the young fit folk :umm2:



Over the past week, France has recorded 1,900 covid-19 deaths. Italy has recorded 3,000.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/italy-vaccines-death-toll/2021/04/08/2d621f12-971a-11eb-8f0a-3384cf4fb399_story.html

Europe is in the middle of a third wave.
Hopefully things get better soon

[arista]

Europe is in the middle of a third wave.
Hopefully things get better soon


Yes maybe after a Strict Lockdown

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

7.725 new cases (average keeps decreasing)

304 new hospitalisations 42 more than yesterday (2.491 in total)

53 new ICU patients 8 more than yesterday (787 in total)

23 new deaths



measures are going to be relaxed as of April 21st but health minister Hugo de Jonge said last night in talk show Jinek, we are not going to relax too many measures not going to be any dumb now we've gotten this far in bringing numbers down, but public want relaxing of measures so we must give them their way too but in a more safe and responsible way (with the test events, only allowing people with negative test)


so far test events/festivals, only 22 people in total (16 yesterday, 6 before that) tested positive, at well over 10.000 taking part at this, after 16 yesterday tested positive, 80% of all who take part tested again (and again came back negative) so that's more or less some hope

[arista]

Saturday 10/4/21

Today 40 deaths
2,589 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
2,862

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
406

127,080 Total UK deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EypbCXlVEAQ-hyd?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Tomorrow
Wales lets the English in.

[bots]

Over half of people in England now live in an area in which new cases of Covid have all but vanished, with some places not reporting a case in public data for more than a month.

Infections have been so low in areas with a total population of 34.5 million that Public Health England has redacted their latest weekly case tallies in order to protect the privacy of those – if any – who test positive

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/10/23/41596760-9457829-image-a-11_1618094468363.jpg
[The proprietors of The Scenic Supper in Moreton-in-Marsh
in Gloucestershire have erected seven
that can accommodate two or four guests]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/10/23/41596754-9457829-image-a-12_1618094515268.jpg
[Somerset House, on the Strand in Central London,
has put in dining domes to
allow visitors to enjoy an alfresco eating experience]

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/10/23/41596762-9457829-image-a-14_1618094531090.jpg
[Ye Olde Trip to Jerusalem in Nottingham,
will be serving pints and a full selection of
drinks in its two gardens.
The venue, part of the Greene King chain,
dates back to the 11th Century]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9457829/How-pubs-restaurants-welcome-4m-people-Monday.html

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

8.288 new cases (588 more than yesterday) average is still decreasing

218 new hospitalisations 86 less than yesterday (2.517 in total)

45 new ICU patients 8 less than yesterday (788 in total)

17 new deaths

[Cherie]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/10/23/41596760-9457829-image-a-11_1618094468363.jpg
[The proprietors of The Scenic Supper in Moreton-in-Marsh
in Gloucestershire have erected seven
that can accommodate two or four guests]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/10/23/41596754-9457829-image-a-12_1618094515268.jpg
[Somerset House, on the Strand in Central London,
has put in dining domes to
allow visitors to enjoy an alfresco eating experience]

Similar to what you see at Christmas markets though they are called igloos :laugh:

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: FieldLab has stated now ''Events are declared safe under these 'new normal protocols' ''

98.7% of the people taking part stick perfectly to required instructions, 4 out of 5 downloaded the corona warn app beforehand, most also stayed 1.5 metres from each other so close contacts were minimum either

[Cherie]

Netherlands: FieldLab has stated now ''Events are declared safe under these 'new normal protocols' ''

98.7% of the people taking part stick perfectly to required instructions, 4 out of 5 downloaded the corona warn app beforehand, most also stayed 1.5 metres from each other so close contacts were minimum either

Super

[arista]

Fareed Zakaria CNN HD presenter
just said his Mother Fatima Zakaria Died of Covid-19
in an India Hospital 1936-2021, Aged 85
as we soon reach 3 Million Deaths Worldwide.

[Zizu]

Fareed Zakaria CNN HD presenter
just said his Mother Fatima Zakaria Died of Covid-19
in an India Hospital 1936-2021, Aged 85
as we soon reach 3 Million Deaths Worldwide.



3 million deaths yet many are still convinced that it’s fake news and people are dying in car accidents but they’re putting Covid19 as the reason for death :(


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[arista]

Sunday 11/4/21

Today 7 Deaths
1,730 have caught Covid -19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
2,862


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
406


127,087 Total UK deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: no relaxing of measures on April 21st, too soon for that, so if people want to enjoy some freedoms, they can via the test events to sign up for those under strict testing guidelines

new cases average is decreasing ok enough but hospitalisations and ICU need to go down first either, since doctors and ICU chief Gommers have been complaining regarding that

no treatments in hospital for other illnesses now either for time being, to focus on getting covid numbers down again there especially in ICU

[arista]

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[arista]

I think Primark could
cause Covid Spreading today.

The Rush to get Cheap Clothing - sod your health.

GMBHD itv Live outside a Liverpool Primark

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[Cherie]

1381490020201201666

:umm2: I can understand Primark but shops with an online presence, what is all this

[arista]

:umm2: I can understand Primark but shops with an online presence, what is all this


A chance to try the Trainers on.
Then buy.

[arista]

because covid crisis is over in the UK now the public have had enough


cases can no longer go up in UK since majority has been vaccinated


We will see in a few weeks time.

[arista]

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[arista]

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Good they are masked

[Cherie]

because covid crisis is over in the UK now the public have had enough


cases can no longer go up in UK since majority has been vaccinated


Incorrect, social distancing and face mask wearing will not be reviewed until at least 21st June

An uptick in infections is expected as we unlock, 39% of the population are still unvaccinated

we can't pick and choose which rules we want to adhere to

[Nicky91]

Incorrect, social distancing and face mask wearing will not be reviewed until at least 21st June

An uptick in infections is expected as we unlock, 39% of the population are still unvaccinated

we can't pick and choose which rules we want to adhere to

are the vaccinated ones fully protected also against all the mutations?

and another bit of uncertainty is will there be more mutations still to come?


since when you vaccinate, you fight against the virus, and the virus wants to grow stronger (a belgian professor Geert Vandenbossche said, he thinks the time for vaccinating now is wrong amid the very midst of pandemic, where he is of opinion the vaccinating should be at a calmer moment)

that is one expert whom my mom watches interviews of

[Cherie]

are the vaccinated ones fully protected also against all the mutations?

and another bit of uncertainty is will there be more mutations still to come?


since when you vaccinate, you fight against the virus, and the virus wants to grow stronger (a belgian professor Geert Vandenbossche said, he thinks the time for vaccinating now is wrong amid the very midst of pandemic, where he is of opinion the vaccinating should be at a calmer moment)

that is one expert whom my mom watches interviews of

it has been proven the vaccination programme has broken the chain of infection here in the UK and have save 10,000 lives, whether there are mutations depend on the speed of vaccination in every country I am afraid, the hope is that any that evade the first round will be caught in the booster jab in the Autumn but who knows, no one has a crystal ball

[user104658]

it has been proven the vaccination programme has broken the chain of infection here in the UK and have save 10,000 lives, whether there are mutations depend on the speed of vaccination in every country I am afraid, the hope is that any that evade the first round will be caught in the booster jab in the Autumn but who knows, no one has a crystal ball

In theory, there's plenty of time between identifying a new strain and mitigating against that strain with a booster. e.g. the "concerning strains" so far were all identified several months ago and have as yet not shown signs of becoming dominant, other than the "UK strain" which the current vaccines, it seems at this point, are effective against. So basically it's not like a mutation appears and then all of a sudden is causing thousands of deaths; with the base vaccine in place, you have time to tweak & roll out before it even gets a foothold. This is essentially how annual Flu vaccination works (identifying the upcoming strain and intervening).

Really it's all dependant on how good/quick we are at "catching" new mutations, but it's likely there'll be dedicated labs basically doing that full time for the foreseeable future.

[bots]

An update to England and Wales's contact tracing app has been blocked for breaking the terms of an agreement made with Apple and Google.

The plan had been to ask users to upload logs of venue check-ins - carried out via poster barcode scans - if they tested positive for the virus. This could be used to warn others.

The update had been timed to coincide with the relaxation of lockdown rules.

But the two firms had explicitly banned such a function from the start.

Under the terms that all health authorities signed up to in order to use Apple and Google's privacy-centric contact-tracing tech, they had to agree not to collect any location data via the software.

As a result, Apple and Google refused to make the update available for download from their app stores last week, and have instead kept the old version live.

When questioned, the Department of Health declined to discuss how this misstep had occurred.

Scotland has avoided this pitfall because it released a separate product - Check In Scotland - to share venue histories, rather than trying to build the functionality into its Protect Scotland contact-tracing app.

[arista]

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9460921/At-Glorious-12th-Thirsty-drinkers-rush-pubs-snow-midnight.html


Look a like Eamonn Holmes

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[Cherie]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/12/11/41647978-0-image-m-4_1618222965871.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9460921/At-Glorious-12th-Thirsty-drinkers-rush-pubs-snow-midnight.html


Look a like Eamonn Holmes

:joker: the guy sitting in the snow

[arista]

:joker: the guy sitting in the snow



Yes looks just like him.

[arista]

[FIGHTS break out as shoppers rush to JD Sports
and Foot Locker to get hold of limited-edition
Nike trainers and huge queues form
outside Primark and other
high street retailers as Covid rules are eased]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9461001/Bargain-hunters-rush-JD-Sports-Primark-6am-eager-Britons-return-high-streets.html

[MTVN]

I am in the pub :smug:

[MTVN]

Well technically just outside the pub

[user104658]

I am in the pub :smug:

Proud of you man.

[MTVN]

Proud of you man.

Means a lot :flutter:

[Cherie]

Well technically just outside the pub

Is that you sat in the snow :worry:

[MTVN]

Is that you sat in the snow :worry:

How old do you think I am :oh:

[MTVN]

It's a balmy 8 degrees in Bristol and the sun even peeked through for 30 seconds half an hour ago

[Nicky91]

Czech Republic some good news, last 24 hours there were 976 new cases, lowest number since September 20th

[arista]

Well technically just outside the pub


Lucky You

[user104658]

How old do you think I am :oh:

There's no reasonable explanation for being at the pub the first afternoon they're open if you're under 45...

[bots]

I am in the pub :smug:

no respect for prince philip :fist:

[MTVN]

There's no reasonable explanation for being at the pub the first afternoon they're open if you're under 45...

Tbf I am bringing the average age of the clientele down by about 20 years

[MTVN]

no respect for prince philip :fist:

I'm wearing (a) black (jumper) at least

It's what he would have wanted

[bots]

i think i will be ready to return to the pub some time in the next couple of years :laugh:

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyxibCVWEAMVeP_?format=png&name=small

Better Days MTVN
before Covid arrived from Sloppy China

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/04/mayors-warn-coronavirus-rules-will-be-unenforceable-if-terraces-stay-closed/

Netherlands: mayors warn coronavirus rules will be unenforceable if terraces stay closed


justice minister Grapperhaus had said terraces stay closed and they won't discuss this again


no relaxing of measures at least before April 28th, and then we'll see how things look by then

[bots]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyxibCVWEAMVeP_?format=png&name=small

Better Days MTVN
before Covid arrived from Sloppy China

looks like Boris had sloppy seconds there

[MTVN]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyxibCVWEAMVeP_?format=png&name=small

Better Days MTVN
before Covid arrived from Sloppy China

Indeed arista

That reminds me I must make Wetherspoons my next stop

[Crimson Dynamo]

choking for a pint

:oh:

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: health minister Hugo de Jonge: only relaxing measures when we are past the peak of this third wave


he hopes it will be April 28th but if the peak hasn't been before then no easing of measures


but parliament will have a press conference tomorrow, a presentation of the step by step plan relaxing of measures

[arista]

Netherlands: health minister Hugo de Jonge: only relaxing measures when we are past the peak of this third wave

Thats Logical,
Like us in The UK
Numbers will be watched.

[Nicky91]

Thats Logical,
Like us in The UK
Numbers will be watched.

more because of warnings given by our ICU chief Gommers and chief of hospital council Ernst Kuipers

they found it too irresponsible to already talk about easing measures when numbers are still too high in hospital and ICU, so they need to go down to not give problems for their doctors, nurses


it is good new cases average goes down, and also lesser infections in care homes nationwide

[Cherie]

Czech Republic some good news, last 24 hours there were 976 new cases, lowest number since September 20th

that is good news, stick with the positives Nicky

[bots]

vaccinations should be having an effect across europe by now, every week it will get better

[Zizu]

In theory, there's plenty of time between identifying a new strain and mitigating against that strain with a booster. e.g. the "concerning strains" so far were all identified several months ago and have as yet not shown signs of becoming dominant, other than the "UK strain" which the current vaccines, it seems at this point, are effective against. So basically it's not like a mutation appears and then all of a sudden is causing thousands of deaths; with the base vaccine in place, you have time to tweak & roll out before it even gets a foothold. This is essentially how annual Flu vaccination works (identifying the upcoming strain and intervening).



Really it's all dependant on how good/quick we are at "catching" new mutations, but it's likely there'll be dedicated labs basically doing that full time for the foreseeable future.


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[Zizu]

[FIGHTS break out as shoppers rush to JD Sports
and Foot Locker to get hold of limited-edition
Nike trainers and huge queues form
outside Primark and other
high street retailers as Covid rules are eased]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9461001/Bargain-hunters-rush-JD-Sports-Primark-6am-eager-Britons-return-high-streets.html



Social distanced fights !?!?


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[bots]

best pic of the day

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/17759/production/_117998069_db733295-12a5-4576-9315-666e48f03221.jpg

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

6.757 new cases 1.497 less than yesterday (average a slight increase but not so much overall)

hospitalisations total increased from 2.517 to 2.582

ICU's total increased from 788 to 794

20 new deaths

[Cherie]

best pic of the day

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/17759/production/_117998069_db733295-12a5-4576-9315-666e48f03221.jpg

aw :love:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Netherlands todays numbers


ICU's total increased from 788 to 794

20 new deaths

Scotland:

21 people in ICU and 154 in hospital overall in Scotland (down 20 since last week).

no deaths

[arista]

Monday 12/4/21

Today 13 have Died.
3,568 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
2,862

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
406

127,100 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk

[bots]

A cheap drug, commonly used to treat asthma, can help people at home recover more quickly from Covid-19, a UK trial has found.

Two puffs of budesonide twice a day could benefit many over-50s with early symptoms around the world, said the University of Oxford research team.

There are also early signs the drug could reduce hospital admissions.

The NHS says it can now be prescribed by GPs to treat Covid on a case-by-case basis from today.

At present, there are few options for treating people with Covid who are not in hospital, apart from paracetamol.

This widely-available asthma drug works in the lungs, where coronavirus can do serious damage, and could improve the recovery of at-risk patients who are unwell with Covid at home.

Prof Stephen Powis, national medical director of NHS England, said he was "delighted" by the trial results so far and he said GPs could prescribe it after "a shared decision conversation" with patients.


more at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56717486

[Zizu]

A cheap drug, commonly used to treat asthma, can help people at home recover more quickly from Covid-19, a UK trial has found.



Two puffs of budesonide twice a day could benefit many over-50s with early symptoms around the world, said the University of Oxford research team.



There are also early signs the drug could reduce hospital admissions.



The NHS says it can now be prescribed by GPs to treat Covid on a case-by-case basis from today.



At present, there are few options for treating people with Covid who are not in hospital, apart from paracetamol.



This widely-available asthma drug works in the lungs, where coronavirus can do serious damage, and could improve the recovery of at-risk patients who are unwell with Covid at home.



Prof Stephen Powis, national medical director of NHS England, said he was "delighted" by the trial results so far and he said GPs could prescribe it after "a shared decision conversation" with patients.





more at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56717486



Thanks that’s useful for us oldies to know


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[Crimson Dynamo]

brilliant

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[arista]

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[arista]

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Not enough space

[Zizu]

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07.48am 13/4/22


40 cases of the SA variant found in London !!

LBC Radio




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[bots]

you are getting yourself into a panic again Zizu where there really isn't any need :laugh:

Catching covid isn't the end of the world if you don't end up seriously ill from it. There is no indication of people becoming seriously ill after being vaccinated (and appropriate time for the vaccine to work)

The media are publishing this nonsense to sell copies ... please ignore it

[MTVN]

The headline of that piece is a lot more concerning than the actual content

[Nicky91]

Dutch people arrived in Rhodos, Greece for a first test foreign holiday now

those people volunteered, more because they love the weather in greece, they cannot leave their hotel, but that is ok for them, at least they can enjoy the sun, and greek food and some distraction from normal boring dutch life

[Zizu]

you are getting yourself into a panic again Zizu where there really isn't any need :laugh:



Catching covid isn't the end of the world if you don't end up seriously ill from it. There is no indication of people becoming seriously ill after being vaccinated (and appropriate time for the vaccine to work)



The media are publishing this nonsense to sell copies ... please ignore it



Thank you .. I just worry ..


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[Vicky.]

The headline of that piece is a lot more concerning than the actual content

That seems to be the case with pretty much any of the news to do with covid tbh.

[arista]

What I have been saying
The Prime Minister said today on all media

He said the Low Death numbers
are not from the Vaccine
they are because the Lockdown.

[arista]

Dutch people arrived in Rhodos, Greece for a first test foreign holiday now

those people volunteered, more because they love the weather in greece, they cannot leave their hotel, but that is ok for them, at least they can enjoy the sun, and greek food and some distraction from normal boring dutch life



Thats Fine
Have a swim and relax

[arista]

07.48am 13/4/22


40 cases of the SA variant found in London !!

LBC Radio





Yes this is not good

[Cherie]

Yes this is not good

the majority of cases were picked up in testing in a care home, all the residents who have tested positive are either aysymptomatic or have a very mild illness, so the vaccine appears to be working

[Nicky91]

Germany: government has agreed with Merkel about stricter corona measures, national lockdown and a curfew from 21:00 to 05:00

this law also provides opportunities for regional governments to close all non-essential stores, barbers, and a ''must work from home'' order, as well as only leaving your home with official paperwork, and official duties (so this might include work like athletes, sportspeople, or music artists like eurovision song contest travel which is also work but a must to stick to guidelines of course, the latter in case these measures are still around begin of May)

[Nicky91]

sooo no daily numbers today Netherlands

but some statistics from last week

number of positive corona tests has increased with 6%, in total 51.240 over the last week of new cases (this increase is after easter holiday when numbers were slowly and steadily decreasing so the increase might be explained bc of easter)

biggest rise is in the 13-17 age group (+15%) and 18-24 age group (+5%) the 80+ and 12 or under are shown to be decreasing and not getting infected

in hospitals the number of corona patients stabilized now 2.554 in total, of which 794 on ICU (the week before it were 2.558 (minor increase of 4 so) and 776 (increase of 18)

[Zizu]

Thats Fine

Have a swim and relax



That’s something that always amazes me .. people who travel thousands of miles to spend a week or two around a pool in a hotel complex surrounded by screaming kids ( other people’s kids at that ) .

We got to Rhodes and live in the town then spend the days on the beach and in the sea plus wander around the surrounding area .. then in the evenings walk around the beautiful streets and get a meal or two , chat with locals and other holidaymakers ... plus do some people watching of course ..


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[Nicky91]

tonight press conference Netherlands, to disappoint the dumb public here once more

can we use our water cannons again against those vile youth

[arista]

Tuesday 13/4/21

Today 23 have died
2,472 have caught Covid-19 today

Patients in hospital
Latest available
2,537

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
377

127,123 UK Total Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

[Enjoy yourself... but not TOO much!
Boris urges public to 'show restraint' and
warns infections and deaths
WILL go up after return to pubs,
shops and hairdressers
on Glorious 12th - as drinkers head back
out for liquid lunch]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9465071/Britons-complain-sore-heads-packing-outdoor-pubs-restaurants-time.html

[Vanessa]

I went out for lunch today.
It was so good to have a little bit of freedom back.

[Zizu]

I went out for lunch today.

It was so good to have a little bit of freedom back.



Nice :)


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[arista]

Nations around the World with over 10,000 Covid-19 Deaths

562,937 USA deaths
354,617 Brazil deaths
209,702 Mexico deaths
171,058 India deaths
127,369 United Kingdom deaths
115,088 Italy deaths
101,882 Russia deaths
99,639 France deaths
78,924 Germany deaths
76,625 Spain deaths
66,156 Colombia deaths
65,055 Iran deaths
59,126 Poland deaths
57,957 Argentina deaths
55,230 Peru deaths
53,356 South Africa deaths
42,782 Indonesia deaths
39,477 Ukraine deaths
34,455 Turkey deaths
28,038 Czechia deaths
25,441 Romania deaths
24,518 Chile deaths
23,980 Hungary deaths
23,503 Belgium deaths
23,359 Canada deaths
17,351 Ecuador deaths
17,012 Netherlands deaths
16,923 Portugal deaths
15,619 Pakistan deaths
15,286 Philippines deaths
14,796 Iraq deaths
14,619 Bulgaria deaths
13,660 Sweden deaths
12,487 Egypt deaths
12,469 Bolivia deaths
10,716 Slovakia deaths
10,472 Switzerland deaths



https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[arista]

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Photo of the Doctor
that found Clots in the AZ Vaccine

[arista]

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