Coronavirus Outbreak : Plan B

[Vicky.]

Can't go to your kids sports day because covid
But..if you want to see sport, get on public transport and get yourself to Wembley with 40k others. Covid has been told not to go there you see!

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays covid numbers 23rd June 2021

679 new cases down 7.1%

425 total hospitalisations decrease of 37

170 total ICU/Ventilator patients decrease of 15

255 total on nursing wards decrease of 22

on the ICU/ventilators there are now 578 non-covid patients (37 more than monday's figures interesting to see this we got more non-covid than covid patients on ICU, still hard work for doctors, nurses so with all regular treatments going through again which had been delayed because of covid before


total vaccinations (first and second dose stats combined) 14,3 million out of population of 17 million

[arista]

Can't go to your kids sports day because covid
But..if you want to see sport, get on public transport and get yourself to Wembley with 40k others. Covid has been told not to go there you see!



No thats a "Business Bubble" - no mixing
if they got as nasty as you would want
it would be held in Spain or some other nation.

[Nicky91]

Lisbon is back at code orange, from yellow due to rise of delta variant cases

[bots]

No thats a "Business Bubble" - no mixing
if they got as nasty as you would want
it would be held in Spain or some other nation.

it's not a business bubble. 60,000 fans will be able to attend 3 matches at wembley and they can attend from anywhere in the world. With that level of attendance there will be no social distancing

[arista]

we should have no fear as India is on the red list :dance:

that's how it works right :shrug:


No.

41 cases of new variant being labelled 'Delta plus' found in UK


Hence the Vaccine Minister at 5PM Live


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-news-live-coronavirus-delta-plus-variant-india-19-july-press-conference-12337263

[bots]

The UK government and Public Health England are monitoring the so-called Delta Plus variant of coronavirus, Downing Street has said.

The prime minister's official spokesman said PHE had already put extra measures in place where the variant had been detected including "enhanced contact tracing, testing, and isolation".

Forty-one cases of the variant have been identified in the UK, he said.

Asked whether the government was concerned the UK was being taken off the equivalent of the green list of travel restrictions in other countries due to a rise in coronavirus cases, the PM's spokesman said it was a "decision fundamentally for individual countries and governments to take".

"We're working hard to use our vaccination programme and other methods to get this more transmissible variant [Delta] under control.

[bots]

Delta plus has also been found in nine other countries - the US, UK, Portugal, Switzerland, Japan, Poland, Nepal, Russia and China. The original highly contagious Delta strain has now spread to 80 countries.


As i was saying earlier, we cant stop it spreading

[arista]

it's not a business bubble. 60,000 fans will be able to attend 3 matches at wembley and they can attend from anywhere in the world. With that level of attendance there will be no social distancing



But all will be tested.

[bots]

But all will be tested.

yes, and we know very well that doesn't mean they are not infected. We have had testing of all incoming passengers for months and the variants still appeared.

[arista]

Wednesday 23/6/21

19 have Died
16,135 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,508

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
250


128,008 Total UK Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bots]

that's a couple of days now the death numbers have been up, it's only going one way

[Cherie]

No.

41 cases of new variant being labelled 'Delta plus' found in UK


Hence the Vaccine Minister at 5PM Live


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-news-live-coronavirus-delta-plus-variant-india-19-july-press-conference-12337263

I think you said yourself India went on the red list too late...people find a way around it by flying to another country and travelling onwards, the UK now has a very stringent policy coming inwards ...3 tests in 8 days from an amber country ...and its still got in


Probably one of the G7 :idc:

[Cherie]

Weds 16/6/16

9 Have Died
9,055 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,177

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
206


127,926 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Wednesday 23/6/21

19 have Died
16,135 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,508

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
250


128,008 Total UK Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[user104658]

I think I’m going to wait for the Delta+ Pro to be honest; it’ll probably release at around the same price and it has even faster load times.

[Crimson Dynamo]

At least we are not letting in 2000 footy hanger's in for a week in a few weeks and they don't have to quarantine....

[Cherie]

Hospital numbers and deaths are reported as flat

[Vanessa]

Hospital numbers and deaths are reported as flat

That's brilliant!

[bots]

Hospital numbers and deaths are reported as flat

if by flat they mean trending upward, then i guess it could be called flat :laugh:

[Vanessa]

if by flat they mean trending upward, then i guess it could be called flat :laugh:

Deaths aren't high at all. That means the vaccine is working. Dty

[bots]

Deaths aren't high at all. That means the vaccine is working. Dty

there are still an awful lot of unvaccinated people, so these numbers are going to increase

[Vanessa]

there are still an awful lot of unvaccinated people, so these numbers are going to increase

They're trying to get the vaccine to anyone who hasn't had it yet.
That's all we can do really. Hopefully it will be enough?

[bots]

They're trying to get the vaccine to anyone who hasn't had it yet.
That's all we can do really. Hopefully it will be enough?

the best scenario is they get 90% of adults vaccinated, that still leaves something like 5/6 million that are vulnerable to covid. So yes, its great so many are vaccinated, but the hospital numbers etc have a long way to increase when we remove all restrictions

[Vanessa]

there are still an awful lot of unvaccinated people, so these numbers are going to increase

the best scenario is they get 90% of adults vaccinated, that still leaves something like 5/6 million that are vulnerable to covid. So yes, its great so many are vaccinated, but the hospital numbers etc have a long way to increase when we remove all restrictions

Yes, I think thats the best we can hope for.
There will alqebe some people who refuse the vaccine.
Like my sister, she got scared about the blood clots that have been happening.

[user104658]

Deaths aren't high at all. That means the vaccine is working. Dty


They’re not high but they have increased over time… so they’re not flat.

To be honest though, anything under 50 isn’t beyond the scope of what you would expect with a new respiratory virus on the scene permanently - would put respiratory deaths at about 1/3 higher than they were pre-Covid.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The number of people dying with flu and pneumonia on their death certificate in England and Wales is now 10 times higher than those with Covid, figures show.

[Vanessa]

They’re not high but they have increased over time… so they’re not flat.

To be honest though, anything under 50 isn’t beyond the scope of what you would expect with a new respiratory virus on the scene permanently - would put respiratory deaths at about 1/3 higher than they were pre-Covid.
Yes, I agree. Hopefully they won't go higher than that.

[user104658]

The number of people dying with flu and pneumonia on their death certificate in England and Wales is now 10 times higher than those with Covid, figures show.


Doesn’t sound right tbh, unless this is about last weeks figures. Normal deaths per day for flu/pneumonia in the UK would be about 90 a day, so for this to be true Covid deaths would have to be under 10/day.

Frankly if they’re saying that pneumonia deaths are at 200+ a day… they’re covering up Covid deaths in the flu/pneumonia figures :joker:… :umm2:…

[Nicky91]

am happy regarding my nation, as for the numbers


as for the Delta variant, i don't panic about that one, no one should tbh


tbh the majority of those are also in areas where there are still the so called Red Zones whom are decreasing by the day those zones into yellow and then grey


as for holidaygoers, ur crazy and very selfish if you go on holiday right now in another country :idc:

[Cherie]

if by flat they mean trending upward, then i guess it could be called flat :laugh:

Thats how Beth Rugby reported it..:laugh:.I would imagine in comparison to deaths from other causes they are flat!

[user104658]

Thats how Beth Rugby reported it..:laugh:.I would imagine in comparison to deaths from other causes they are flat!


Flat is flat as in static… no change… not increasing. It’s not about comparison to anything else. The numbers are LOW in comparison to other causes, but they are increasing, so there’s no way to describe them as “flat”.

[Beso]

I think I’m going to wait for the Delta+ Pro to be honest; it’ll probably release at around the same price and it has even faster load times.

That's not as daft an idea as you think.

[bots]

Thats how Beth Rugby reported it..:laugh:.I would imagine in comparison to deaths from other causes they are flat!

they will have some threshold and if the increase is under that then it will be considered flat. I just think that by the time september hits, 6 weeks after restrictions have ended, there is going to be quite a raised flat

[arista]

[17:49

Barnie Choudhury, from Eastern Eye, asks what is specifically
being done to increase vaccine uptake in communities
like the Pakistani and Bangladeshi sections of the country.

Mr Zahawi gives a number of examples of schemes to
get groups which are not taking up vaccine offers
to increase their uptake rate.
He talks about pop up events in Brent mosque,
an event for the Haredi Hasidic Jews in
Hackney with Diane Abbott.
The minister mentions how important it is to
"empower" community figures that
people trust - like members who are paramedics.

Dr Nikki Kanani highlights the importance
of community media organisations in helping
the vaccine rollout continue.]


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-news-live-coronavirus-delta-plus-variant-india-19-july-press-conference-12337263


Terrible the amount of Fake Data out there.

[bots]

The Queen referred to Health Secretary Matt Hancock as "poor man" at a meeting with Boris Johnson.

"I've just been talking to your secretary of state for health, poor man. He came for Privy Council," she told the prime minister.

"He's full of...", she added. "Full of beans?", offered Mr Johnson.

:joker:

[arista]

Tomorrow we get a Travel Update
Ch4HDnews confirmed,

[Zizu]

I think I’m going to wait for the Delta+ Pro to be honest; it’ll probably release at around the same price and it has even faster load times.



Maybe not such a good idea ...

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe not such a good idea ...

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in that time 210,000 people have died in the UK of OTHER STUFF

1400 people die every day in the UK

[bots]

those are weighted figures, because we know that the vaccine has stopped thousands of people being hospitalised, and that is the important figure, not the ones that are outliers and are being highlighted above

[Zizu]

in that time 210,000 people have died in the UK of OTHER STUFF

1400 people die every day in the UK[/SIZE]


My point was that over 30% of the latest Delta deaths were fully vaccinated for over 2 weeks ...

The ‘word’ not too long ago was that being fully vaccinated equated to not getting seriously poorly and certainly not dying


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Transport Secretary may be in Parliament First.

[Cherie]

Can't see countries like Spain and Portugal taking Angela's suggestion on board, Germany is not reliant on tourism for the bulk of it's economy

Angela had no problem turning up for the G7 :idc:

[bots]

There is so much self interest going on, i can understand it, but it's pretty blatant

[arista]

Can't see countries like Spain and Portugal taking Angela's suggestion on board, Germany is not reliant on tourism for the bulk of it's economy

Angela had no problem turning up for the G7 :idc:



Yes German Leader
has got nasty
saying all British must be Quarantined

[Nicky91]

Yes German Leader
has got nasty
saying all British must be Quarantined

yeah so


the Delta variant is currently most awful in UK, they are correct to ask for all british to be quarantined

[Cherie]

yeah so


the Delta variant is currently most awful in UK, they are correct to ask for all british to be quarantined

its worse in Portugal? but she is putting no block on that country, maybe the virus recognises EU borders :laugh:

[user104658]

yeah so


the Delta variant is currently most awful in UK, they are correct to ask for all british to be quarantined

I'd agree if it wasn't already out in the world, but... it is. It's already active in every country so quarantining isn't going to make any difference. I mean, it didn't even originate in the UK.

That said I think international travel in general is opening up far too early; it should be the LAST thing to return, between countries that have already got to the point of lifting all restrictions (which should be 3 weeks after the point of full vaccine roll-out completion, not some arbitrary date).

[Beso]

Yes German Leader
has got nasty
saying all British must be Quarantined

Will she be banning her german contingent travelling to the euro final?

I think not.

[arista]

Will she be banning her German contingent travelling to the euro final?

I think not.



Yes Shows how Nasty she is

[bots]

Covid: The man who tested positive for Covid 43 times

Scientists are studying the case of a man in Bristol who has recovered from 290 days being positive with SARS-CoV-2.

Dave, 72, is a driving instructor and musician who's spent the last 10 months with an active coronavirus infection, visiting hospital seven times. His immune system was vulnerable to the virus after a leukaemia diagnosis and chemotherapy treatment.

Dave was eventually treated with a new mixture of anti-viral drugs provided by the US company Regeneron on compassionate grounds.

Now scientists at the University of Bristol are studying Dave's case to try and understand how Covid acts and mutates within the body.

[arista]

Yes a special case.

[Strictly Jake]

So I got my test done at 10am. You should have seen the queue to get in. It was backed up. There was whole families getting it done. Not a good sign of its like that around the country

[arista]

This is the New Way Hopkins does the numbers
Cases matter more.


Cases and Deaths by Country/Region/Sovereignty


33,577,714 | 602,837 USA
30,082,778 | 391,981 India
18,169,881 | 507,109 Brazil
5,824,127 | 111,024 France
5,387,545 | 49,358 Turkey
5,306,069 | 128,719 Russia
4,683,986 | 128,291 United Kingdom
4,326,101 | 90,986 Argentina
4,255,434 | 127,352 Italy
4,027,016 | 101,947 Colombia
3,773,032 | 80,748 Spain
3,732,441 | 90,622 Germany
3,128,395 | 83,329 Iran
2,879,192 | 74,893 Poland
2,487,747 | 231,847 Mexico
2,294,358 | 54,357 Ukraine
2,036,449 | 191,073 Peru
2,033,421 | 55,594 Indonesia
1,861,065 | 59,258 South Africa
1,708,539 | 18,015 Netherlands
1,666,521 | 30,291 Czechia
1,528,409 | 31,746 Chile
1,418,467 | 26,144 Canada
1,372,232 | 23,928 Philippines
1,305,000 | 16,968 Iraq
1,088,518 | 14,616 Sweden
1,081,061 | 25,149 Belgium
1,080,389 | 32,626 Romania
951,865 | 22,108 Pakistan
868,323 | 17,077 Portugal
866,877 | 13,787 Bangladesh

https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[arista]

Will she be banning her german contingent travelling to the euro final?

I think not.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E4lb0w6WUAA4obT?format=jpg&name=small

[Zizu]

Yes German Leader
has got nasty
saying all British must be Quarantined


She doesn’t even know for sure how safe she herself is ...https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210624/5de1f2a2b0595fdff2ebd6a000a17355.jpg


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[user104658]

She doesn’t even know for sure how safe she herself is ...


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To be fair to Ang, given current data I'm going to request Pfizer/Moderna for booster (if there is to be one) rather than another round of AZ. Under current guidance, I wouldn't have been given AZ in the first place.

Then again a booster is different to a 1st/2nd dose scenario and is what it says it is - an immunity booster - not a "3rd dose" so I don't THINK there should be any issue in requesting a different vaccine.

[bots]

i think a mix of vaccines after you have basic immunity can only be a good thing. It's not like they are competing against each other, they are augmenting your protection.

Also, Angela is anything but stupid, i would assume that german research had recommended the mix, even if its not verified research

[Vanessa]

Mmm, I don't want to get mixed vaccines.

[Cherie]

I assume Angela is part of a Clinical Trial

[Strictly Jake]

If I was offered The astra zenaca and I've already had the Pfizer id refuse to have it. I have seen my family member have the astraZ nearly kill him. He's still in hosptial after it attacked all his platelets and leave him bruised from head to toe. He still can't use his right arm or talk. I feel safer with the Pfizer

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

392 total hospitalisations 33 less than yesterday

158 total ICU/ventilators 12 less than yesterday

[arista]

If I was offered The astra zenaca and I've already had the Pfizer id refuse to have it. I have seen my family member have the astraZ nearly kill him. He's still in hosptial after it attacked all his platelets and leave him bruised from head to toe. He still can't use his right arm or talk. I feel safer with the Pfizer



Can you get a Pfizer?

[Cherie]

Can you get a Pfizer?

of course he can he is under 50

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

392 total hospitalisations 33 less than yesterday

158 total ICU/ventilators 12 less than yesterday

716 new cases down 0.7%

total number of vaccinations (first, second dose) today 14.4 million

[bots]

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has warned that Europe is "on thin ice" as the Delta variant of Covid spreads on the continent.

Her warning came as EU health officials said the variant would account for 90% of the bloc's cases by late August.

The spread could disrupt plans for lifting restrictions during the summer.

The Alpha variant, first discovered in the UK, hit Europe hard early this year and Delta, now dominant in the UK, is thought 40%-60% more transmissible.

Andrea Ammon, the director of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC), said on Wednesday that the spread of the Delta variant showed the importance of speeding up vaccinations in Europe, as "preliminary data shows that it can also infect individuals that have received only one dose of the currently available vaccines".

Two doses offered "high protection" against the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant, she added.

Delta, first identified in India, now accounts for almost all new infections in the UK.

On Wednesday Mrs Merkel said that, like Germany, all of the EU should quarantine arrivals from the UK considering the dangers of the spread of Delta.

The UK is not on the EU's list of safe countries, due to the spread of Delta, but that list is not binding on member states.

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said that while fully vaccinating people offered "a good way forward" for resuming travel, this summer would not be "like every other. This is going to be a more difficult summer to take a holiday".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57594954

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/24/12/44621077-0-image-a-27_1624533925953.jpg
[Simon Baird slammed the breakfast he was served while
staying at President Hotel during his 11-night quarantine]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9721043/Travellers-complain-prison-like-1-750-quarantine-hotel-share-images-inedible-food.html

[bots]

that looks very appetising :drool:

[arista]

[Andrew Lloyd Webber takes legal
action against the government over delays to live events]


[Andrew Lloyd Webber, Cameron Mackintosh
and the live music industry are taking legal
action to force the government to hand over
the results of its live event pilot scheme.
The Events and Research Programme (ERP) has
seen test audiences attending events like
the FA Cup Final, the Download festival and the Brit Awards.
Event organisers had expected the findings to
be made available last week, allowing them to
plan ahead for the rest of the summer,
but publication was delayed without explanation.
"The short-term hit is stark," said the live event
industries in a statement announcing their legal action.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-57593210

[arista]

Thursday 24/6/21

21 have Died
16,703 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,533

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
246


128,048 Total UK Covid -19 Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

The Transport Secretary
like last time, is not giving a set time he announces it

[Cherie]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/24/12/44621077-0-image-a-27_1624533925953.jpg
[Simon Baird slammed the breakfast he was served while
staying at President Hotel during his 11-night quarantine]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9721043/Travellers-complain-prison-like-1-750-quarantine-hotel-share-images-inedible-food.html

horrific, paying 1700 a week for that, why can they get it on a plate, its a hotel which probably in normal times has room service :umm2:

[Nicky91]

German Chancellor Angela Merkel has warned that Europe is "on thin ice" as the Delta variant of Covid spreads on the continent.

Her warning came as EU health officials said the variant would account for 90% of the bloc's cases by late August.

The spread could disrupt plans for lifting restrictions during the summer.

The Alpha variant, first discovered in the UK, hit Europe hard early this year and Delta, now dominant in the UK, is thought 40%-60% more transmissible.

Andrea Ammon, the director of the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC), said on Wednesday that the spread of the Delta variant showed the importance of speeding up vaccinations in Europe, as "preliminary data shows that it can also infect individuals that have received only one dose of the currently available vaccines".

Two doses offered "high protection" against the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant, she added.

Delta, first identified in India, now accounts for almost all new infections in the UK.

On Wednesday Mrs Merkel said that, like Germany, all of the EU should quarantine arrivals from the UK considering the dangers of the spread of Delta.

The UK is not on the EU's list of safe countries, due to the spread of Delta, but that list is not binding on member states.

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said that while fully vaccinating people offered "a good way forward" for resuming travel, this summer would not be "like every other. This is going to be a more difficult summer to take a holiday".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57594954

yes Angela is a very wise woman :love:


hopefully her successor is going to be great either (which will be either Laschet of CDU, or Soder of CSU, those two parties are most popular there so nothing drastic to change since those are both same direction, no one wants Greens and the far right AfD thank god are no longer near as popular as they once were)

[Cherie]

Thursday 17/6/21

19 have Died.
11,007 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,227

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
208


127,945 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Thursday 24/6/21

21 have Died
16,703 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,533

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
246


128,048 Total UK Covid -19 Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[Scarlett.]

I'm failing to see how Boris claims that things are looking hopeful for July, when the numbers are now consistently rising.

[arista]

The Transport Secretary
like last time, is not giving a set time he announces it


In the next 2 hours
they say

[arista]

I'm failing to see how Boris claims that things are looking hopeful for July, when the numbers are now consistently rising.

Yes he is still saying 19th of July

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/06/indian-nationals-in-the-netherlands-target-devasting-covid-back-home/

Indian nationals in the Netherlands are watching the spread of coronavirus back home with dread as the death toll mounts. So far at least 400,000 people have died, although the real total may be far higher, and some 50,000 new cases are being reported on a daily basis.

A cyclone in West Bengal and the upward march of a fungal infection that is attacking Covid patients are making the situation even worse.

Travel between India and the Netherlands has been put on hold for months – although flights have now been resumed since the Netherlands brought in mandatory quarantine legislation. But this and other restrictions on travel from outside the EU means many Indian nationals in the Netherlands have not seen their family for over a year.

Having had enough of watching from the sidelines as the tragedy unfolds in their home country many are now involved with fundraising activities to try to help.

Sudip Lahiri, the head of financial services Europe at HCL, says the pandemic has had a devastating effect on the lives of many Indians regardless of whether they are staying in India or residing abroad.

‘I have lost several of my colleagues in the past six months and three of them are from my own team,’ says Lahiri, who has lived in the Netherlands for the past 20 years.

‘I personally had to be on phone calls during odd hours and coordinate with my network to ensure that the impacted people find oxygen and proper medical care. This has been devastating as a human being and sometimes I felt helpless because of the massive shortage of resources to support those who have been affected.’

Registered charities

Lahiri is one of the founders of the Indo Dutch Care network, a registered charity in the Netherlands that has sent several oxygen concentrators to West Bengal via its Bengal Calling programme.

‘While this is a small step, we are excited that we could contribute and do our bit,’ he says. ‘We are now planning the 2nd phase where we will send our next shipment to support the initiatives of the West Bengal government.’

Amit Ray, another of the Indo Dutch Care founders says that he too has been affected in many ways. ‘Many people I or my wife knew personally passed away from Covid and my own elderly parents were infected and hospitalized for some time,’ he says.

‘In particular, the devastating effect the pandemic was having on the poorer sections of society was difficult to deal with,’ says Ray, a resident of the Netherlands since 1998. ‘Apart from illness and death, they were having to cope with the loss of their jobs and struggling to put food on their plates.’

Education

This, says Ray, is why the Indo Dutch Care foundation will now start collecting relief for other sectors, such as providing food for the poor or sponsoring education for children whose parents have lost their livelihoods. ‘We also hope the Dutch government will help people to not only survive the pandemic but to put their children through school.’

Prashar Ayer, a commercial group leader at Cognizant who has lived in the Netherlands for 16 years, says he remembers hearing the devastating news on April 24. ‘People were dying because they could not breathe,’ he says. Ayer tried to organise shipments of oxygen concentrators as a practical help but was caught out by the weekend and the King’s Day festivities. ‘It was a terrible weekend,’ he says. ‘Everything was closed here, and in India people were dying.’

Over the following weeks, Ayer was able to use his vast network, including the Indian community leaders, social workers, and business school colleagues, to source and send oxygen contractors back to India, firstly to NGOs, later to private organisations. ‘Whatever we could get, we sent,’ he says. ‘After all, everything was going to get used.’

Horror story

‘It was a horror story that was being played out across India. We had to do whatever we could do,’ says Ayer, whose own parents, who have been vaccinated, live in Mumbai which is still in lockdown. ‘We just had to try to do something.’ Technology consultant Pramod Agrawal has not seen his friends and family for 1.5 years and says he has lost several people in his close network.

‘I have come to realise the power of simple courtesy phone call, small financial support or activating networks to arrange for some life-saving drugs back in India,’ he told DutchNews.nl.

Agrawal, who has lived in the Netherlands for 20 years, is on the steering committee at FIDE (Foundation for Indian Diaspora in Europe) and vice president in charge of programmes at the FCCI (Foundation for Critical Choices for India), both of which are involved in getting aid, particularly oxygen and drugs, to the areas affected the most.

‘We managed to raise nearly €50,000 in less than two weeks,’ he says. ‘Members got in touch with different governmental as well as non-governmental bodies in India to identify potential hospitals where they could facilitate the shipment of oxygen concentrators from Europe.’

In total, 136 oxygen concentrators have been shipped to various states across India so far.

Food aid

‘This was indeed a very powerful example of the type of public-spirited leadership that needed to get every aid safely to the other side of the pandemic,’ he says.

In addition, the foundation has identified 1,100 families in the suburbs of the city of Bangaluru who had no income and organized a supply of grocery packets to them.’

‘It is time, not to think just about the Netherlands or India,’ he says. ‘All countries have to come together in the fight against Covid-19. We simply can’t be protected here unless the global population gets vaccinated. This is time for solidarity and to share resources.’

Entrepreneur and publisher Satarupa Bose Roy has lived in the Netherlands for some 15 years and says she is finding it hard to watch the pandemic unfold in India from afar.

‘My father had coronavirus even after his second dose of vaccine and I had to arrange everything from here,’ she says. ‘Several of my close friends here have lost their parents in India and they were not able to go. This makes me all the more sad and worried and concerned.’

Donations

In particular, she says, the situation in West Bengal has been compounded by a cyclone a month ago, which washed away thousands of homes. ‘They don’t have drinking water, no shelter, no food. If coronavirus has taught me one thing, that is solidarity… a value that stands the test of time and circumstances.’

‘We are not working for a good cause anymore, we are working because there is a real need,’ she says. ‘So I would ask people to come together, join hands with us. Donate generously. Together we can make a difference.’

People who wish to donate to the relief effort in India should do so either through the FCCI or Indo Dutch Care Network or any small grassroots organisation in India they are familiar with, Ayer says.

‘But be warned,’ he says. ‘Bureaucracy can be a challenge sending money to a good cause in India, but if you are sending a small amount to a local group it should be okay.’

[bots]

Chancellor Rishi Sunak has said he expects to stop wearing a mask "as soon as possible" after it is no longer legally required in England.

He told the Times that the situation was "looking good" for an end to lockdown restrictions by 19 July.

Mr Sunak also said it was his "strong expectation" that society could then "get back to normal".

The final easing of Covid-19 restrictions is set to be reviewed over the next few weeks.

Part of this will involve deciding whether to end social distancing and the need to wear a mask in indoor public settings.

Coronavirus infection rates have increased since the last easing of restrictions in May - which saw the indoor reopening of pubs, cafes and restaurants - with the more contagious Delta variant, which originated in India, being blamed.

This delayed the planned final stage from 21 June to 19 July, subject to review.

But hospitalisations and deaths have not risen at anything like the same rate, while more than 43 million UK adults have had a first dose of Covid vaccine.

Speaking to the Times's CEO summit, Mr Sunak was asked if he expected to stop wearing a mask when it became legal not do so.

"Yes, as soon as possible," he replied. "Things are looking good for 19 July... and my strong expectation is we can lift these major restrictions then and get back to normal."

Earlier, Environment Secretary George Eustice said the "plan" was to remove the legal requirements for mask wearing on that date.

He told Sky News that there were "some people who might choose to wear masks or whether it may be advisory in some settings", adding: "That's a separate matter."

But tourism minister Nigel Huddleston said he "wouldn't be surprised" if he kept wearing a mask on the London underground after restrictions end.

Speaking to BBC Radio Sussex, he said: "No matter what happens in terms of legal requirements, some people will want to be cautious."

Face coverings - when worn over the nose and mouth - reduce the spread of coronavirus droplets from coughs, sneezes and speaking.

They currently have to be worn on public transport across the UK, unless people have a medical exemption.

Wearing coverings in shops was made compulsory in England last July.

They same thing happened in Scotland a few days earlier, with Northern Ireland following suit in August and Wales in September.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57596213

[Crimson Dynamo]

I'm failing to see how Boris claims that things are looking hopeful for July, when the numbers are now consistently rising.

the numbers are all BS and have been for ages

[bots]

the media need to stop publishing daily figures, identify hotspots and leave it at that. Everyone is rightly a bit apprehensive but we have to get life back to normal as much as we can. I still think its sensible to maintain distance where possible. We are going to have to get used to daily covid deaths, they are not going to go away any time soon and the same as any other virus we need to learn to live with it

[DouglasS]

I'm failing to see how Boris claims that things are looking hopeful for July, when the numbers are now consistently rising.

I think it’s moreso he wants to give as much protection as possible to the public, the extra 4 weeks means all adults could have had a dose and 75% of adults will have had two doses.

There’s not more they can do to prevent hospitilisations and deaths - being vaccinated means there is less than 0.01% chance of dying from covid, the survival rate is extremely high if vaccinated - with 65m people in the population though that means numbers will rise as restrictions end - but he’s protected the vulnerable by giving them their two doses saving people who would have otherwise have died

[user104658]

Indeed - essentially we now know, more or less for a fact, that it is not going to be possible to eliminate Covid with lockdowns and restrictions. Ever. It’s airborne, it’s too easily transmissible, and it just doesn’t work…

That leaves two options;
1) get to the point where everyone is as safe as possible, open up, and accept that it’s here to stay.

2) stay on lockdown literally forever.


There’s no option where we stay in lockdown longer and the situation improves. It will never improve. It’s going to be what it is when we reopen.

[bots]

Here are the new Northern Ireland Green list countries, so we can assume that England will be very similar

From 04:00 BST on Wednesday 30 June these countries will be put on the green list for NI:

Anguila
Antigua and Barbuda
Balearic islands
Barbados
Bermuda
British Antarctic Territory
British Indian Ocean Territory
British Virgin Islands
Cayman Islands
Dominica
Grenada
Madeira
Malta
Montserrat
Pitcairn Islands
Turks and Caicos Islands

[arista]

1408131071816970242

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

[Covid: Green list expansion 'not enough', say travel bosses

The destinations added to the green list from 04:00 BST on 30 June are:

Europe: The Balearic Islands
(which include Ibiza, Menorca,
Majorca and Formentera),
Malta and Madeira

Caribbean: Anguilla, Antigua and Barbuda,
Barbados, British Virgin Islands,
Cayman Islands,
Dominica, Grenada,
Montserrat and
Turks and Caicos Islands

Other British Overseas Territories :
Bermuda,
British Antarctic Territory,
British Indian Ocean Territory,
Pitcairn]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57606348

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/25/00/44648209-0-image-a-23_1624577561191.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9722645/Price-flights-Ibiza-soars-60-cent-MINUTES-Grant-Shapps-announcement.html

[Cherie]

Emergency departments across the UK are seeing record numbers of young children - but most have a mild fever that could be treated at home, the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health says.
Winter viruses are flourishing as more people mix, and a doctor's chief says many A&Es are being "overwhelmed".
Experts say any infections are unlikely to be serious and GPs, pharmacies or NHS 111 should be the first option.
But A&E remains an option if parents are still concerned or in an emergency.
Always seek medical advice if your baby or child:
is under three months old and has a temperature of 38C (100F) or higher
is three to six months old and has a temperature of 39C (102F) or higher
has a fever lasting for more than five days, or is becoming more unwell
is not drinking well or is dehydrated with fewer than two wet nappies a day
develops a red rash that doesn't fade when a glass is rolled over it
has a fit or convulsion
is crying constantly, or it doesn't sound like their normal cry
The warning from doctors comes after the RCPCH collated data and the views of paediatricians in emergency departments across the UK.
It found children coming to A&E are mostly under the age of five - but they do not have coronavirus.
In most cases, their fevers, coughs and runny noses are caused by other respiratory infections such as RSV, bronchiolitis, the common cold and paraflu.
After disappearing last winter during lockdown when no-one was mixing in large numbers, these viruses have reappeared in the summer - but at winter levels, putting huge pressure on emergency departments in hospitals.
For most youngsters, treatment with children's paracetamol or ibuprofen will make them feel better after a few days.
'
BBC

Why would you take a child with a mild cold to A and E :facepalm:

[bots]

the pandemic has generated huge amounts of paranoia. We all had these risks before and no-one gave them a second thought. The media and government need to calm things down or its just going to go on for ages. It's going to be crazy come winter if they dont stop all this fixation with daily death

[Cherie]

the pandemic has generated huge amounts of paranoia. We all had these risks before and no-one gave them a second thought. The media and government need to calm things down or its just going to go on for ages. It's going to be crazy come winter if they dont stop all this fixation with daily death

Surely if worried the best practice would be to take them for a PCR test before rocking up at A and E ...:shrug:

Like our Jake did...you cant legislate for stupidity

[Cherie]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/25/00/44648209-0-image-a-23_1624577561191.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9722645/Price-flights-Ibiza-soars-60-cent-MINUTES-Grant-Shapps-announcement.html

Sky high...Malta 59.00 more expensive ...

[Strictly Jake]

Yeah why are they even giving a date of 19th July. Yes it is good to allow people to look ahead but it also allows for disappointment when things just won't be opening up. I think the government may be in for a suprise if they genuinely think things are going well

[Strictly Jake]

Surely if worried the best practice would be to take them for a PCR test before rocking up at A and E ...:shrug:

Like our Jake did...you cant legislate for stupidity

Still haven't had the result back yet. I have a feeling it'll say negative. But this has been one of the worst colds I have ever had its wiped me out. My wife calls it man flu :fist:

[bots]

i think when they reduce the quarantine requirements for the fully vaccinated, it will settle down. That's the key. At the moment any of these countries can be banged on to the amber list at a moments notice which messes everyone up.

I still wouldn't risk going abroad until that's sorted

[Strictly Jake]

Prices sky high for abroad? Sadly staying in one of the cheaper caravans at haven costs more as I've tried to book a holiday. UK prices are ridiculously sky high! So those abroad prices don't seem too bad but I won't be going abroad until next year. As if they have added Ibiza. That's a sest pit

[Vanessa]

This year I'm only doing day trips to the seaside.
It's cheap and I get to see many different places.

[Vanessa]

Yeah why are they even giving a date of 19th July. Yes it is good to allow people to look ahead but it also allows for disappointment when things just won't be opening up. I think the government may be in for a suprise if they genuinely think things are going well

I don't mind waiting for it. Better be on the safe side.

[bots]

people seem to be confused. The criteria previously stated for removing restrictions have gone out of the window. The criteria now is giving every adult the opportunity to be vaccinated, which happened last week, so lockdown will end in july

[user104658]

I still feel that the "unlock date" should be when everyone who wants it has actually HAD both doses - ideally would be 21 days after that... though I think the point where everyone is 2x dosed is a decent compromise.

However they want to be open before we head back into winter, for economic reasons... which I understand, but I think it's far from optimal.

[user104658]

Emergency departments across the UK are seeing record numbers of young children - but most have a mild fever that could be treated at home, the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health says.
Winter viruses are flourishing as more people mix, and a doctor's chief says many A&Es are being "overwhelmed".
Experts say any infections are unlikely to be serious and GPs, pharmacies or NHS 111 should be the first option.
But A&E remains an option if parents are still concerned or in an emergency.
Always seek medical advice if your baby or child:
is under three months old and has a temperature of 38C (100F) or higher
is three to six months old and has a temperature of 39C (102F) or higher
has a fever lasting for more than five days, or is becoming more unwell
is not drinking well or is dehydrated with fewer than two wet nappies a day
develops a red rash that doesn't fade when a glass is rolled over it
has a fit or convulsion
is crying constantly, or it doesn't sound like their normal cry
The warning from doctors comes after the RCPCH collated data and the views of paediatricians in emergency departments across the UK.
It found children coming to A&E are mostly under the age of five - but they do not have coronavirus.
In most cases, their fevers, coughs and runny noses are caused by other respiratory infections such as RSV, bronchiolitis, the common cold and paraflu.
After disappearing last winter during lockdown when no-one was mixing in large numbers, these viruses have reappeared in the summer - but at winter levels, putting huge pressure on emergency departments in hospitals.
For most youngsters, treatment with children's paracetamol or ibuprofen will make them feel better after a few days.
'
BBC

Why would you take a child with a mild cold to A and E :facepalm:

People are "jumpy" with Covid I think and taking extra precautions needlessly. But yeah there's absolutely no reason to take kids to A&E for something like a temp... kids will pop a fever with relatively mild illnesses (where an adult wouldn't even have a raised temp). It's totally normal. Stick some calpol in 'em and plonk them on the couch with Disney+ for a couple of days.

[Scarlett.]

Had my second jab! :D

[Cherie]

Had my second jab! :D

Whoo :smug:

[bots]

Had my second jab! :D

welcome to the droid collective :smug:

[Scarlett.]

I'm a 5G hotspot now :D lol :joker:

[arista]

[13:34
Ryanair adds 200,000 extra seats to Malta
and the Balearic Islands

They will be added in July, August and September on flights
from the UK to Malta, Ibiza and Palma
after the destinations made it
onto the government's green travel list.
But the airline is calling on ministers
to add "equally safe destinations" such
as Cyprus, the Canaries and the Green Islands.
It also wants vaccinated citizens from the UK
and the EU to travel freely between both.
In a statement, the company claimed the government,
"still won’t explain what scientific data they've
applied to their decision making on the
traffic light system which is very confusing
for airlines and consumers".]

[arista]

12:56
[Delta variant 'spreading freely
across Wales', Drakeford says
The first minister of Wales has warned of a
rise in cases of the Delta variant after
figures doubled in a week.
Mark Drakeford said it is "spreading freely
in communities right across Wales".
There were just under 500 confirmed cases
of the variant in the country last Friday.
But this has now more than doubled to
around 1,100 cases,
he told a press conference in Cardiff.
He said the incidence rate of coronavirus
across the country had risen to 37
cases per 100,000 people and was highest
in North Wales, where four of the six local
authority areas have rates higher than
50 cases per 100,000 people.

The Labour politician
said: "As many as 97% of new cases
of coronavirus in North Wales are
caused by the Delta variant.

"The very latest information I have
is that 15 people have been admitted to hospital
having contracted the Delta variant in Wales."

He claimed Wales was "two to three weeks
behind" the COVID situation in
the rest of the UK.]


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-news-live-latest-uk-updates-airline-boss-warns-of-another-missed-summer-after-green-list-revealed-as-mass-vaccine-clinics-open-for-weekend-12337263

[Strictly Jake]

Well the test came back negative. So it is just a nasty cold but it really has wiped me out. It must be because immune systems are low. Also I've worked out I usually get this kind of illness in October as so clean at Uni. I catch "Freshers flu" but obviously uni has been quiet for over a year and only in the last month with exams got very busy. So what id get in October I caught in June

[Cherie]

Well the test came back negative. So it is just a nasty cold but it really has wiped me out. It must be because immune systems are low. Also I've worked out I usually get this kind of illness in October as so clean at Uni. I catch "Freshers flu" but obviously uni has been quiet for over a year and only in the last month with exams got very busy. So what id get in October I caught in June

Great news Jake

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers 25th June 2021

659 new cases (just below the average of 675)

363 total hospitalisations 29 less than yesterday

147 total ICU/ventilators 11 less than yesterday

now 452 non-covid patients on the ICU/ventilators, biggest difference since October 1st, almost 9 months ago

5 new deaths


as of today, 172.000 jab appointments for Janssen/J&J vaccine (in total 200.000 jabs to be set, so 28.000 free places left)

[Nicky91]

Well the test came back negative. So it is just a nasty cold but it really has wiped me out. It must be because immune systems are low. Also I've worked out I usually get this kind of illness in October as so clean at Uni. I catch "Freshers flu" but obviously uni has been quiet for over a year and only in the last month with exams got very busy. So what id get in October I caught in June

amazing to hear Jake :love:

but feel for you still you got this very nasty cold :hug:

[Strictly Jake]

People won't be following the rules anymore by this corrupt and hypocritical goverment after the last week's of hearing about the G7, UEFA and the cock putting his cock where it doesnt belong. It's time to open up. Whether they decide this or not we all have a choice.

[Strictly Jake]

Why can't I go on watch my daughter's first sports day next week yet a load of drunk yobos can cheer on strangers on a football pitch

[Strictly Jake]

And on that note I'm gonna go back to the coronavirus Story as told by TIBB. Just to highlight how hypocritical the whole thing has been.

[arista]

Well the test came back negative. So it is just a nasty cold but it really has wiped me out. It must be because immune systems are low. Also I've worked out I usually get this kind of illness in October as so clean at Uni. I catch "Freshers flu" but obviously uni has been quiet for over a year and only in the last month with exams got very busy. So what id get in October I caught in June



Great News
Hot Curry for you

[arista]

The Best was the 02 event
The Brit Awards
3,500 at that event

After tests - No casses at all.


Liverpool Live Event
7,000 there
over 2 days
had 10 cases , after the events



SkyNewsHD.

[arista]

Friday 25/8/21

18 have Died
15,810 have caught Covid-19


Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,485

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
259


128,066 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bots]

So there is now confusion, do we call him hopeless hancock or shagger hancock

[Cherie]

So there is now confusion, do we call him hopeless hancock or shagger hancock

Hopeless Shagger :laugh:

[arista]

So there is now confusion, do we call him hopeless hancock or shagger hancock


Yes they Cancelled early his visit booked for today
to a Vaccination centre,



Trending on twitter as the Shagger

[Cherie]

Friday 19/6/21

11 have Died
10,476 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,251

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
210

127,956 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Friday 25/8/21

18 have Died
15,810 have caught Covid-19


Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,485

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
259


128,066 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: discoteque's, night clubs reopened again as of midnight now

and immediately lots of youth who were waiting in line for their test result certificates

either negative pcr test, or vaccination proof or proof of having recently recovered of covid, and then you don't need to socially distance



today also no longer face mask compulsory in stores, supermarkets


only places where face masks remain compulsory are public transport, airports, and in hallways of the schools

[arista]

Delta+
Now reported on WION HD
as deadly as it attacks you lungs fast.

[Zizu]

Just the odd 100% increase in new infections over 2 weeks .. phew !


60% increase over 14 days for patients on ventilation


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[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

for the first time since September

no new covid deaths in todays numbers

569 new cases 84 less than yesterday

[arista]

Saturday 26/6/21

23 have Died
18,270 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,505

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
259


128,089 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

522 new cases, far below the week average of 625

1 new death


also today the 15 millionth vaccination was registered, currently at 15.1 million all in total of also whom at least had one dose either

[arista]

Sunday 27/6/21

11 have Died.
14,876 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,505

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
259


128,100 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Sunday 20/6/21

6 have Died
9,284 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,316

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
210

127,976 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Sunday 27/06/21

11 have Died.
14,876 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,505

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
259


128,100 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

.

[Cherie]

your date is incorrect Arista

[arista]

your date is incorrect Arista

Thanks Corrected

[arista]

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[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/28/01/44752757-0-image-m-18_1624841644601.jpg
[Angela Merkel starts her bid today to BAN British holidaymakers
from the EU whether they have had Covid jab or not
- as Portugal brings in 14-day quarantine for
any unvaccinated Brits
[Germany's Angela Merkel wants all Britons
to quarantine when visiting the EU
Plan has received France's backing but Spain
is adamant to set its border policy
German Chancellor wants Britain made
'country of concern' over Delta variant
Boris Johnson will meet Merkel at
Chequers on Friday in an attempt to persuade
her to back down
Spain, Greece, Portugal and Malta
set to defy restrictions to save their
large tourism economies]



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9731341/Angela-Merkel-bids-BAN-British-tourists-EU.html

[bots]

Australia are a good example of why banning visitors doesn't matter. They have among the strictest travel controls and they are now experiencing multiple delta hot spots. Countries can slow the spread down, but they cant stop new variants arriving, it's inevitable

[Cherie]

Are there no German fans at Wembley tomorrow then :facepalm: and she should have attended the G7 via Zoom given Delta was rife at that point.

Marr got it at the G7 so how many others?

[arista]

Are there no German fans at Wembley tomorrow then :facepalm: and she should have attended the G7 via Zoom given Delta was rife at that point.

Marr got it at the G7 so how many others?



Yes but he was with BBC Staff
loads of them have it.

[Nicky91]

Australia are a good example of why banning visitors doesn't matter. They have among the strictest travel controls and they are now experiencing multiple delta hot spots. Countries can slow the spread down, but they cant stop new variants arriving, it's inevitable

because Australia more thinks about lockdowns, strictest travel controls, but vaccinating isn't a priority there

only 3% of population there have been fully vaccinated i heard on our news just this morning

[Zizu]

Australia are a good example of why banning visitors doesn't matter. They have among the strictest travel controls and they are now experiencing multiple delta hot spots. Countries can slow the spread down, but they cant stop new variants arriving, it's inevitable


Yeah ... You only need one case in theory ..


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[Nicky91]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/28/01/44752757-0-image-m-18_1624841644601.jpg
[Angela Merkel starts her bid today to BAN British holidaymakers
from the EU whether they have had Covid jab or not
- as Portugal brings in 14-day quarantine for
any unvaccinated Brits
[Germany's Angela Merkel wants all Britons
to quarantine when visiting the EU
Plan has received France's backing but Spain
is adamant to set its border policy
German Chancellor wants Britain made
'country of concern' over Delta variant
Boris Johnson will meet Merkel at
Chequers on Friday in an attempt to persuade
her to back down
Spain, Greece, Portugal and Malta
set to defy restrictions to save their
large tourism economies]



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9731341/Angela-Merkel-bids-BAN-British-tourists-EU.html

dumb move from Spain, Greece, Portugal, Malta :facepalm: but they'll learn that lesson in winter i guess

[arista]

Health Secretary Sajid Javid is updating us today.



The Commons at 5.30PM today


SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD
LBC
Times Radio DAB
Radio 5

[arista]

Sajid Javid has had the office Cameras Disabled
he was speaking outside St. Thomas Hospital.

All Out Politics SkyNewsHD
and then on
BBCnewsHD

[arista]

[09:41

Delta variant infected every single person
at 'superspreader' birthday party - except those
who had been vaccinated - ABC
Some 24 out of 30 attendees have become
infected with COVID-19 at a birthday party
in Sydney, Australia, which is being described
as a "superspreader" event.

Those who did not become infected were
six health workers who had been fully vaccinated
, according to ABC News.

"To emphasise just how important vaccinations
are … not one of those 24 people were vaccinated,"
said New South Wales health minister Brad Hazzard.

He continued: "Obviously, it's an unfolding
situation… but the early and strong indication
from that party are if you're vaccinated you
are much more likely to not be infected with COVID-19.

"Short message is, get vaccinated."]


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-news-live-latest-uk-updates-sajid-javid-to-make-first-commons-statement-as-health-secretary-as-cathedral-thanksgiving-service-planned-for-nhs-staff-12343658

[Livia]

Health Secretary Sajid Javid is updating us today.



The Commons at 5.30PM today


SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD
LBC
Times Radio DAB
Radio 5


He's been in the job five minutes... What's he going to tell me that I will believe, do you think?

[arista]

He's been in the job five minutes... What's he going to tell me that I will believe, do you think?


All the Current Covid updates
would be done today with that former one.


Science advisers have updated data
for him.

It was 3:30PM
then BBC said it will be 5:30PM

I will update if the time changes

[arista]

[The ministerial statement about coronavirus
restrictions is expected in the
House of Commons at about 17:30 BST.

Mr Javid said: "I want to see the restrictions lifted
and life going back to normal as quickly as possible.
That is my absolute priority.
I want to see those restrictions lifted as soon as we can.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57630553

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/28/11/44766963-9732331-image-a-36_1624876139709.jpg
Sajid at St.Thomas Hospital this morning

[arista]

[COVID-19: No need for booster AstraZeneca jab
at the moment, says Oxford Vaccine Group - despite
evidence it restores peak immunity]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-no-need-for-third-oxford-jab-at-the-moment-despite-evidence-it-restores-peak-immunity-12343859

[bots]

Moscow has registered 7,246 new cases and a record number of 124 daily coronavirus deaths.

Sobyanin notes the Delta variant is a serious threat to the capital: "Once again, we are dealing with a new and more contagious strain, a very deadly one. I ask everyone to take care of themselves and get vaccinated at the first opportunity."

In a recent interview with state Rossiya 1 TV, the mayor says because of the Delta strain, the capital is "experiencing the pandemic anew, and the epidemic is in fact raging in Moscow".

[arista]

Yes all over the world the Indian (Delta) Variant
is killing more people fast.

[Vanessa]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/28/01/44752757-0-image-m-18_1624841644601.jpg
[Angela Merkel starts her bid today to BAN British holidaymakers
from the EU whether they have had Covid jab or not
- as Portugal brings in 14-day quarantine for
any unvaccinated Brits
[Germany's Angela Merkel wants all Britons
to quarantine when visiting the EU
Plan has received France's backing but Spain
is adamant to set its border policy
German Chancellor wants Britain made
'country of concern' over Delta variant
Boris Johnson will meet Merkel at
Chequers on Friday in an attempt to persuade
her to back down
Spain, Greece, Portugal and Malta
set to defy restrictions to save their
large tourism economies]



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9731341/Angela-Merkel-bids-BAN-British-tourists-EU.html
I'm not going to Europe anyway. I feel so much safer here in the UK.
I miss my family, but I can always see them next year.

[user104658]

Moscow has registered 7,246 new cases and a record number of 124 daily coronavirus deaths.

Sobyanin notes the Delta variant is a serious threat to the capital: "Once again, we are dealing with a new and more contagious strain, a very deadly one. I ask everyone to take care of themselves and get vaccinated at the first opportunity."

In a recent interview with state Rossiya 1 TV, the mayor says because of the Delta strain, the capital is "experiencing the pandemic anew, and the epidemic is in fact raging in Moscow".

Those case fatality ratio stats bear no resemblance to our own - I'd suggest that Russia has a LOT more mild daily cases than are being confirmed by test. Like... 10x more.

[bots]

Those case fatality ratio stats bear no resemblance to our own - I'd suggest that Russia has a LOT more mild daily cases than are being confirmed by test. Like... 10x more.

the russian figures can't be taken seriously, all we can say is the figures are at least that

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

580 new cases down 7.35%

331 total hospitalisations 32 less than yesterday

142 total ICU/ventilator patients 5 less than yesterday

no new deaths

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/28/13/44767419-9732481-Around_18_million_Australians_70_per_cent_of_the_p opulation_are_-a-19_1624883636673.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9732481/Australias-Covid-success-crumbles-Cities-lockdown-borders-closed-hardly-vaccinations.html

[bots]

https://i.imgur.com/G949l9s.png


There is even better news with deaths. Latest estimates show fewer than one in 1,000 infections is leading to a death. At the peak of the winter wave it was one in 60.

This has dramatically altered what can be considered a proportionate response to the virus - and is why a further loosening of restrictions remains on the cards.

[user104658]

https://i.imgur.com/G949l9s.png


There is even better news with deaths. Latest estimates show fewer than one in 1,000 infections is leading to a death. At the peak of the winter wave it was one in 60.

This has dramatically altered what can be considered a proportionate response to the virus - and is why a further loosening of restrictions remains on the cards.

I think a true fatality rate of around 0.7 - 0.8% was estimated early on and the stats held pretty strong on that throughout the pandemic up until vaccination (not to be confused with case fatality rate, which is deaths per IDENTIFIED case, not deaths per estimated true number of cases). If it's true that this is now at less than 0.1% then vaccination has been a massive success.

[arista]

Monday 28/6/21

3 have died
22,868 Have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,505

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
257

128,103 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Monday 21/6/21

5 have Died
10,633 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,316

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
223

127,981 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Monday 28/6/21

3 have died
22,868 Have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,505

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
257

128,103 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Look at those infections :omgno: pull through vaccine

[bots]

Look at those infections :omgno: pull through vaccine

they didnt include a wad of infections over the weekend so they added them in today :laugh:

[arista]

Live Now


Health Sec.
In Parliament

All Media

[arista]

He says age is now no barrier
to getting the Vaccine.

[arista]

Shadow Health Minister
says cases are still on the rise,
and far to many questions

[bots]

nobody has been admitted to hospital with covid in my area in the last 28 days

[arista]

nobody has been admitted to hospital with covid in my area in the last 28 days


Thats Great News

[arista]

Crowds at Wimbledon's Centre Court gave
a standing ovation to Oxford Covid vaccine
designer Dame Sarah Gilbert

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9733243/Covid-vaccine-designer-Dame-Sarah-Gilbert-given-standing-ovation-Wimbledon.html

[The Slim Reaper]

nobody has been admitted to hospital with covid in my area in the last 28 days

I'm sure that means everything is fine...

https://media4.giphy.com/media/26DMYYB1uHHqDouo8/giphy.gif

[bots]

I'm sure that means everything is fine...

https://media4.giphy.com/media/26DMYYB1uHHqDouo8/giphy.gif

no, it means nobody has been admitted to hospital with covid in the last 28 days :laugh:

[Cherie]

they didnt include a wad of infections over the weekend so they added them in today :laugh:

Oh seriously :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Facebook banned for 4 months any post that said covid came from a lab in China. Now they don't

Did you know this?

Bill Maher show, tonight

[Crimson Dynamo]

Google too

[Crimson Dynamo]

Protecting the corrupt WHO

How can you research this????

[arista]

Facebook banned for 4 months any post that said covid came from a lab in China. Now they don't

Did you know this?

Bill Maher show, tonight


Yes is his Top Friday HBO show
on our SkyComedyHD Monday nights.


Trump had the Early data
when he was in power.

[arista]

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[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/17B8/production/_119127060_inews-nc.png


I do hope Delta+
does not change your vision in next 3 weeks

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

309 total hospitalisations a decrease of 22 compared to yesterdays figures

127 total ICU/ventilator patients a decrease of 15 compared to yesterdays figures also for the first time since half October no new ICU/ventilator patients today

again no new deaths


so far so good, the new cases figures will come bit later on




summary of last week, number of positive tests has decreased with 26%, the R number still well below 1, so the epidemic is decreasing as for severity of infection rate

number of reported infections throughout last week 4.200, same amount as May 21st (which was that number on 1 day alone)


RIVM estimates as of June 21st 17.000 people are contagious, compared to 26.000 the week before


the number of hospitalisations decreased over half in one week, same goes for ICU/ventilators (which even better had also recorded 0 new patients today)

[DouglasS]

End of lockdown makes sense as everyone over 30 will have had the option to have had two vaccines if they choose to, as you can now move the second vaccine to 8 weeks now.

Really hope normality returns

[Vanessa]

We have to learnt to live with it. The virus is going nowhere soon.
But vaccinations will protect us from getting seriously ill.

[arista]

SkyNewsHD Irish Reporter
said Covid Plans has been kicked down the road.
While they Work out how bad Delta Variant is in Ireland

[arista]

Tuesday 29/6/21

23 have Died
20,479 Have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,585


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
297


128,126 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bots]

This is madness .......

Foreign business leaders will no longer need to quarantine when arriving in England if their trip is likely to have a significant economic benefit to the UK, the government has announced.

The exemption will be for arrivals from amber-list countries, and only given in exceptional circumstances, the Department for Business (BEIS) said.

Some business groups and MPs expressed anger as it excludes smaller companies.

But BEIS said it would balance economic interests with public safety.

Some critics said it should include all business travel and key workers. Labour's Angela Rayner and Manchester's Labour Mayor, Andy Burnham, said it smacked of one rule for the rich and one for the rest.

Craig Beaumont, for the Federation of Small Business, said: "Small business owners and the self-employed often travel for their business, and it is wrong to declare this activity as of no significant economic benefit - and so outside of the government's plans.

"There should not be a fast lane of easements for big business while small firms are left behind."

Tej Parikh, chief economist at the Institute of Directors, said: "Medium-sized enterprises will be the powerhouses of our economic recovery, so initiatives that effectively lower quarantine requirements for executives in large businesses seem arbitrary."

Mr Parikh stressed that it was "vital that the government does not overlook the crucial importance of helping SME business leaders getting back up and running by focusing purely on multinationals".

UKHospitality chief executive Kate Nicholls agreed, telling the BBC this exemption needed to be "expanded for broader business travel, including hospitality workers abroad who are currently unable to return to the UK due to the cost and hassle of current quarantine requirements".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57644437

[Crimson Dynamo]

time to ignore the government

take the muzzles off

its over

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5FGfiHVcAcn1_S?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5FGfiHUcAEvVqA?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5FGfiIVEAEfYRb?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E5FHrUgVEAEFQTh?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/30/01/44841579-9738303-image-a-193_1625012161777.jpg


Covid Spreaders
yesterday

[Zizu]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/30/01/44841579-9738303-image-a-193_1625012161777.jpg


Covid Spreaders
yesterday


How many hours do you sleep , on average, bud ??


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[Nicky91]

time to ignore the government

take the muzzles off

its over

it isn't over

[bots]

Greater Manchester's Covid death rate has been 25% higher than the rest of England during the pandemic, new research has found.

The study into the impact of the virus in the region also said life expectancy in north-west England declined more during 2020 than in England overall.

The report says health inequalities in Greater Manchester have been exposed and amplified by the pandemic.

It calls for more resources directed at education, employment and housing.

[Vanessa]

It's time to open up. We've down what we could with the vaccines.
Lockdown isn't a permanent solution.

[Nicky91]

It's time to open up. We've down what we could with the vaccines.
Lockdown isn't a permanent solution.

why, because the crybabies had enough and want to socialize like animals again



socializing is irrelevant, freedom is irrelevant

[Vanessa]

why, because the crybabies had enough and want to socialize like animals again



socializing is irrelevant, freedom is irrelevant

Life has to go on. I'm glad they're opening up next month.

[Nicky91]

Life has to go on. I'm glad they're opening up next month.

No

other people had their chance for normal life, but they ruined it themselves with this pandemic



lockdown life is normal life for me :hee: i only care about myself

[Vanessa]

I don't mind lockdown, but people need to work.
Some haven't been able to yet.

[Vanessa]

I'm not in a hurry to go to Italy.
For now I'm taking my holidays here in the UK.
There are some amazing places I want to go to.

[Zizu]

Greater Manchester's Covid death rate has been 25% higher than the rest of England during the pandemic, new research has found.

The study into the impact of the virus in the region also said life expectancy in north-west England declined more during 2020 than in England overall.

The report says health inequalities in Greater Manchester have been exposed and amplified by the pandemic.

It calls for more resources directed at education, employment and housing.


... and some in here wonder why I worry so much !!


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[user104658]

... and some in here wonder why I worry so much !!


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I mean not to be harsh but unless you’re in the demographic affected by those health inequalities (low income, often minority groups) then your risk of death isn’t higher than anywhere else in the country. It’s basically just highlighted that there were already major social inequalities in some areas. But I think really people already knew that… it’s just shone a spotlight on them.

[Zizu]

I mean not to be harsh but unless you’re in the demographic affected by those health inequalities (low income, often minority groups) then your risk of death isn’t higher than anywhere else in the country. It’s basically just highlighted that there were already major social inequalities in some areas. But I think really people already knew that… it’s just shone a spotlight on them.


True enough.. but our BL postcode area has been around the top of the infections chart for a very long time now ..


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[Vanessa]

Zero deaths in my area for this month.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

296 total hospitalisations decrease of 13 compared to yesterday lowest since September 18th last year

128 total ICU/ventilator patients, 0 new ICU/ventilator patients again for second day in a row

168 total on nursing wards decrease of 14 compared to yesterday

[arista]

1410230375130058755

[arista]

Greater Manchester's Covid death rate has been 25% higher than the rest of England during the pandemic, new research has found.

The study into the impact of the virus in the region also said life expectancy in north-west England declined more during 2020 than in England overall.

The report says health inequalities in Greater Manchester have been exposed and amplified by the pandemic.

It calls for more resources directed at education, employment and housing.


Annie will not like this
Proud of her Greater Manchester

[Beso]

Over 1300 scottish fans who travelled to london have tested positive since arriving back.

[arista]

Over 1300 scottish fans who travelled to london have tested positive since arriving back.


Yes not good
Should be on all TVnews

[Beso]

Yes not good
Should be on all TVnews

My mates just back from a solo fishing trip where he slept outside in the fresh air in a sleeping bag for 3 days.

He has caught it.

[arista]

My mates just back from a solo fishing trip where he slept outside in the fresh air in a sleeping bag for 3 days.

He has caught it.



Thats not good
I hope he pulls through

[arista]

[13:07
More than 1,200 COVID cases in Scotland linked to
football fans who travelled to London
Euro 2020 matches have been behind almost
2,000 COVID-19 cases in the nation,
according to Public Health Scotland.

A total of 1,991 cases have been linked to fans
watching Euro 2020 matches, and nearly
two-thirds of these (1,294 people) reported
travelling to London to watch
Scotland v England on 18 June.

Some 397 of infections were in people who watched
the game at Wembley Stadium.

The PHS report said a "relatively small number" of cases
were linked to the fanzone at Glasgow Green (55),
while 38 and 37 respectively were
linked to Scotland v Croatia and
Scotland v Czech Republic at
Hampden Park in Glasgow.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-news-live-latest-updates-who-expert-warns-against-ditching-all-restrictions-on-particular-date-as-scientists-reveal-the-covid-measures-that-work-best-12343658

[arista]

Capt Remy
whats going on, over there?

France 'heading for fourth wave'

[11:50AM

France heading towards fourth wave
of coronavirus, says expert
As Delta cases continue to rise,
the French government's leading
scientific adviser Professor Jean-Francois Delfraissy
has said there may be another resurgence in infections.
Medical experts in France fear a new wave could
hit the country by September or October as
pressure rises for the government to
impose tougher restrictions.

However, ministers are hoping the vaccination
programme should limit the impact of a fourth wave.

"I think we will have a fourth wave,
but it will be much more moderate than
the previous three waves because the
level of vaccinations is different
compared to before,"
Professor Delfraissy told France Info radio.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-news-live-latest-updates-who-expert-warns-against-ditching-all-restrictions-on-particular-date-as-scientists-reveal-the-covid-measures-that-work-best-12343658

[Zizu]

Over 1300 scottish fans who travelled to london have tested positive since arriving back.


The woman on TalkSport earlier suggested that it’s a % of those who actually traveled to Wembley the rest went to various specially arranged footie gatherings in and around Scotland ..


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[Zizu]

Any idea why they’re going to lift all the restrictions in schools the week BEFORE they break up for summer holidays??

Seems a bit like putting petrol on the fire given how it’s currently travelling through our schools with the masks and restrictions currently in place


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[arista]

Wednesday 30/6/21

14 have Died
26,068 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,720

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
283

128,140 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

Wednesday 30/6/21

14 have Died
26,068 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,720

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
283

128,140 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Bloody hell ... I haven’t been paying too much attention to the stats ..

When did it get up to 26,000 !!

I thought we’d plateaud and were going down again


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[Vanessa]

Deaths are low, which is good.

[Beso]

Thats not good
I hope he pulls through

Only thing he caught all weekend he says.

[arista]

Any idea why they’re going to lift all the restrictions in schools the week BEFORE they break up for summer holidays??

Seems a bit like putting petrol on the fire given how it’s currently travelling through our schools with the masks and restrictions currently in place



[375,000 School Children sent home last week
on covid related issues]

Ch5HDnews

Also on GBnewsHD long debates on it


Education Sec. still looking in to it.

[arista]

Deaths are low, which is good.

14 today
But the mega amount that Caught Covid is well high 26,068

[Beso]

The woman on TalkSport earlier suggested that it’s a % of those who actually traveled to Wembley the rest went to various specially arranged footie gatherings in and around Scotland ..


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There will be thousands more who travelled down and then back up who havnt bothered to even test themselves...

[arista]

Bloody hell ... I haven’t been paying too much attention to the stats ..

When did it get up to 26,000 !!

I thought we’d plateaud and were going down again




Scotland Fans in London

[Beso]

Nicola should have stopped this.

[Nicky91]

good on Merkel for refusing british people then


smart woman

[Beso]

I reckon we will be in full lockdown again in 3 weeks.

[Nicky91]

https://www.ruptly.tv/en/videos/20210629-058-Spain--Students-isolated-in-Mallorca-hotel-over-COVID-19-outbreak-protest-from-balconies

300 dutch students isolated in Mallorca hotel over covid-19 outbreak, protests from balconies


3 students reached spanish mainland, and are wanted by police

[arista]

Nicola should have stopped this.


At the Time
She Advised the fans not to go to England

Delta Orgy in a way

[arista]

I reckon we will be in full lockdown again in 3 weeks.


Who Scotland?

[Vanessa]

14 today
But the mega amount that Caught Covid is well high 26,068

That's because of the football :fist:

[bots]

i don't mind infections rising high before we ease restrictions, it gives us a better idea of how protective the vaccine can be or not against hospitalisation before we do the final easing of restrictions. At this point, the higher the number the better

[Beso]

At the Time
She Advised the fans not to go to England

Delta Orgy in a way

And at the same time refused entry to scotland to the north west of england, she could have gone further than advise, but she sat back forgetting that her nations health is her main priority during this pandemic, a phrase she has used time and time again to avoid questions.

[Beso]

Who Scotland?

Yes, I've heard there's a leaked document going around saying that.

[Nicky91]

At the Time
She Advised the fans not to go to England

Delta Orgy in a way

another very wise woman, shame no one kinda listened to her :(

[Crimson Dynamo]

Britain should stop publishing daily figures on Covid-19 case rates because the virus is now a “long way from being an important cause” of death, a vaccine advisor has said.

Prof Robert Dingwall, a member of the UK Government’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation, urged people to stop panicking about the current rising infection levels, which may only be reflecting a “last wave of mild infections” among unvaccinated youths.

It is well past time to panic about infection rates and to publish them obsessively. Even hospitalisation rates are increasingly misleading as better therapy reduces length of stay. Covid is now a long way from being an important cause of mortality,” the Nervtag scientist tweeted.

He joins a growing number of MPs and leading scientists, including Prof Tim Spector, of King’s College London, warning the daily slew of Covid statistics are terrifying people and they lack any context, such as figures on flu, heart disease and cancer.

Daily Telegraph

[bots]

yeah ive been saying for a while we should stop publishing daily figures. Show where there are hotspots so people are aware, but that should be the end of it. The media are prolonging uncertainty and feeding panic

[Scarlett.]

Yeah, were at the point that, unless a new variant comes along, we're kinda safe now

[Beso]

Kids are experiencing long covid symptoms.

[Beso]

We've only had this thing coming on 2 years now and everyone thinks its conquered, its far from it, we are still at a very early vaccination situation, and still blind to what that entails in the way forward.

Can we vaccinate our children, if not is it safe to allow them to run the risk on a daily basis of catching covid over and over again...is the vaccine safe for infants? Is it safe to allow our infants to come into contact with us over and over again as we unwittingly carry the virus, hidden by our vaccinated bodies?

[arista]

Yes, I've heard there's a leaked document going around saying that.


Well in Scotland
your leader is trying her best.


So on the 19th of July it could be England/Wales

[arista]

Kids are experiencing long covid symptoms.


Yes new Report on that.
Shocking.

[Beso]

Can we have a new graph showing the scottish figures please.