Coronavirus Outbreak : Plan B

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Just me and you awake at this time.. as usual :)


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[arista]

Just me and you awake at this time.. as usual :)




Yes Prof Gowers


Susie Bonniface on the SkyNewsHD
paper review saying the UK 3rd wave
is not stoppable

[Zizu]

So far the infection increases have been kept within the hotspot areas. It's also worth noting that they are doing a massive amount of surge testing in those areas, so infections will rise, even if people have zero symptoms



bots the balancer :laugh:



Seems I’m not the only worrier ..

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[bots]

i'm also saying we should be cautious too, but after the vaccination program we have had, we cant remain locked down. We should maintain social distancing until the infection rate is right down though

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/05/vaccine-target-will-be-missed-but-nl-is-back-on-the-road-to-normal/

Netherlands very much back on the road to normal, the vaccine target is mid July everyone above 18 (or at least those who want the vaccine)


''According to health ministry estimates, nine million doses of vaccine have now been given and 14 million people are eligible.''


Football

''However, the social distancing rules and ban on large groups will remain in force in June, and that will impact on the way the European football championships are experienced, prime minister Mark Rutte said.''

For example, cafes will not be able to rent in big screens to watch the game and there will be no outdoor screenings either, Rutte said. ‘It is good news that we can do what we can, so let us be sensible [about the football],’ Rutte said.

The changes the government is introducing from June 5 – step three in the plan to open up the economy again – involves allowing museums and cinemas to open to a limited number of visitors and allowing cafes and restaurants to serve guests up to 10pm, indoors as well as outside.

Gyms

Sports schools and gyms can also offer lessons indoors again, as long as the 1.5 metre rule is observed. Team sports can also resume, although only the under 18s will be able to take part in competitions.

‘Step three is really an end to the lockdown’ Rutte said. ‘It is a great thing to be able to leave it behind.’

However, people who are fully vaccinated should still keep to the social distancing rules and wear a face mask in shops and indoor spaces, De Jonge said.

And home working is still the order of the day, Rutte said. ‘It is good news this evening, but we are not yet there.’

Holidays

The European Union’s coronavirus certificate will come into effect on July 1, De Jonge said. Given that not every adult in the Netherlands will have been vaccinated by that date, it is ‘only logical that we share the costs’ he said, referring to calls for free PCR tests for people who plan to go abroad on holiday.

[Vanessa]

i'm also saying we should be cautious too, but after the vaccination program we have had, we cant remain locked down. We should maintain social distancing until the infection rate is right down though

Yes, I agree.

[Zizu]

i'm also saying we should be cautious too, but after the vaccination program we have had, we cant remain locked down. We should maintain social distancing until the infection rate is right down though



Sadly some people will be sensible some will not - some people haven’t made any changes all throughout this nightmare ... at least if there’s a lock down in place and fines to pay ( in theory) more will not be acting as there’s nothing to worry about .


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[Zizu]

A specialist doctor on the radio just reported that the new variant is DOUBLING every 5 DAYS according to current data. !!!

Forgive me for being ever so slightly apprehensive...

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[bots]

Sadly some people will be sensible some will not - some people haven’t made any changes all throughout this nightmare ... at least if there’s a lock down in place and fines to pay ( in theory) more will not be acting as there’s nothing to worry about .


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that will quickly change if the youngsters start dropping like has happened in india. Young people are dying there from it, and that can't be explained by social circumstances because young people have largely been unaffected by covid all around the world until the indian variant hit

[Zizu]

that will quickly change if the youngsters start dropping like has happened in india. Young people are dying there from it, and that can't be explained by social circumstances because young people have largely been unaffected by covid all around the world until the indian variant hit



Possibly.. as I’ve mentioned previously we have two 16 years old girls from the same high school in our town — apparently very poorly in hospital as we speak ..

It’s certainly made zero difference to the behaviour of our pupils this last week ..


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[Nicky91]

Possibly.. as I’ve mentioned previously we have two 16 years old girls from the same high school in our town — apparently very poorly in hospital as we speak ..

It’s certainly made zero difference to the behaviour of our pupils this last week ..


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do these girls have any other medical condition?

[Zizu]

do these girls have any other medical condition?



Just normal school kids apparently


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[Nicky91]

Netherlands: RIVM's decision to vaccinate children between 12 and 18 is a strategic one for upcoming winter, which will make it easier to keep covid under control

if also all children from age of 12 receive at least one dose, their estimation of the R-number will be at 0.85

if only all adults would be vaccinated, then the R number would be just below 1

so this is the better of the two scenario's, to lift pressure of our doctors, care workers

how higher the percentage of vaccination, the lower the R number

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

3.438 new cases 446 less than yesterday (average still decreasing)

1.352 total hospitalisations (93 new hospitalisations)

499 total ICU patients (for first time in 5 months below 500) (17 new ICU patients)

8 new deaths

[Crimson Dynamo]

COVID-19 'has NO credible natural ancestor' and WAS created by Chinese
scientists who then tried to cover their tracks with 'retro-engineering' to make it
seem like it naturally arose from bats, explosive new study claims

In a new 22-page scientific paper, exclusively obtained by DailyMail.com,
Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen (top right) and British Professor
Angus Dalgleish (bottom right) concluded 'SARS-Coronavirus-2 has no
credible natural ancestor' and that it is 'beyond reasonable doubt' that the
virus was created through 'laboratory manipulation.' The study, due to be
published in the scientific journal Quarterly Review of Biophysics Discovery,
is set to make waves among the scientific community, as the majority of
experts have until recently staunchly denied the origins of COVID-19 were
anything other than a natural infection leaping from animals to humans.
While analyzing COVID-19 samples last year in an attempt to create a
vaccine, Dalgleish and Sørensen claim they discovered 'unique fingerprints' in
the virus that they say could only have arisen from manipulation in a
laboratory. They said they tried to publish their findings but were rejected by
major scientific journals which were at the time resolute that the virus
jumped naturally from bats or other animals to humans.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

[Zizu]

COVID-19 'has NO credible natural ancestor' and WAS created by Chinese

scientists who then tried to cover their tracks with 'retro-engineering' to make it

seem like it naturally arose from bats, explosive new study claims



In a new 22-page scientific paper, exclusively obtained by DailyMail.com,

Norwegian scientist Dr. Birger Sørensen (top right) and British Professor

Angus Dalgleish (bottom right) concluded 'SARS-Coronavirus-2 has no

credible natural ancestor' and that it is 'beyond reasonable doubt' that the

virus was created through 'laboratory manipulation.' The study, due to be

published in the scientific journal Quarterly Review of Biophysics Discovery,

is set to make waves among the scientific community, as the majority of

experts have until recently staunchly denied the origins of COVID-19 were

anything other than a natural infection leaping from animals to humans.

While analyzing COVID-19 samples last year in an attempt to create a

vaccine, Dalgleish and Sørensen claim they discovered 'unique fingerprints' in

the virus that they say could only have arisen from manipulation in a

laboratory. They said they tried to publish their findings but were rejected by

major scientific journals which were at the time resolute that the virus

jumped naturally from bats or other animals to humans.



https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html



Intriguing

If proven to be correct then maybe they should put the creator to task to come up with an answer or face the consequences ..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Intriguing

If proven to be correct then maybe they should put the creator to task to come up with an answer or face the consequences ..


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Over in Wuhan, something happened which has now led to 3.5 million deaths
(and about 170 million cases) across the world. The scientists most closely
involved have disappeared, as has anyone who spoke up to denounce what
happened, as has physical and documentary evidence of what was going on
in the lab. If there was ever a Dominic Cummings-type person within the
Chinese communist regime, he has not been allowed to appear for seven
hours before a televised committee of the National People’s Congress to tell
what he sees as the truth that Comrade Xi Jinping is unfit to be president,
has a “crackers” girlfriend and a lying health minister and has covered up the
cause of the greatest avoidable public health disaster of all time. In the
vanishingly unlikely event that such a person ever existed, we can be
confident he is now dead.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/28/wuhan-puts-paid-cummings-idea-manage-public-health-crisis/

[arista]

Saturday 29/5/21

7 have Died
3,398 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
870

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
120


127,775 Total UK deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Vanessa]

Saturday 29/5/21

7 have Died
3,398 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
870

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
120


127,775 Total UK deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Cases are going up, but hospitalisations and deaths are still low.
I think we're good.

[Zizu]

Cases are going up, but hospitalisations and deaths are still low.

I think we're good.



But the hospitalisations take a couple of weeks to rise don’t they .. and deaths 28 days ( according to the cutoff point )


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[Zizu]

Saturday 22/5/21


6 have died
2,694 Have caught Covid-19


Patients in hospital
Latest available
908


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
123


127,716 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/



Last Saturday for comparison


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[Cherie]

Over in Wuhan, something happened which has now led to 3.5 million deaths
(and about 170 million cases) across the world. The scientists most closely
involved have disappeared, as has anyone who spoke up to denounce what
happened, as has physical and documentary evidence of what was going on
in the lab. If there was ever a Dominic Cummings-type person within the
Chinese communist regime, he has not been allowed to appear for seven
hours before a televised committee of the National People’s Congress to tell
what he sees as the truth that Comrade Xi Jinping is unfit to be president,
has a “crackers” girlfriend and a lying health minister and has covered up the
cause of the greatest avoidable public health disaster of all time. In the
vanishingly unlikely event that such a person ever existed, we can be
confident he is now dead.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/05/28/wuhan-puts-paid-cummings-idea-manage-public-health-crisis/


Yes

[Vanessa]

Hospitalisations and deaths have remained low for a while now.

[Cherie]

Saturday 29/5/21

7 have Died
3,398 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
870

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
120


127,775 Total UK deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Last Saturday for comparison


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The infection increase from last week is not that dramatic given they are surge testing

[bots]

Realistically we will be able to judge the numbers in another couple of weeks as it takes time for things to filter through. With a bit of luck the vaccination roll out continues to prove itself

[Vanessa]

Realistically we will be able to judge the numbers in another couple of weeks as it takes time for things to filter through. With a bit of luck the vaccination roll out continues to prove itself

So far it's really helping.
So hopefully it will continue.

[user104658]

that will quickly change if the youngsters start dropping like has happened in india. Young people are dying there from it, and that can't be explained by social circumstances because young people have largely been unaffected by covid all around the world until the indian variant hit


I genuinely think it’s far too early to be adopting scare stories like that; we spent most of last year having similar scare stories with new discoveries/new variants and in the end, the vast majority have (symptom and demographics wise) turned out on the statistical longer-term to all be more or less exactly the same. I genuinely think the stories coming out of India are simply because their population is gargantuan and testing levels likely extremely low... it’s probably far more widespread and endemic in the country than the official figures. Thus, rare situations (such as younger people being severely ill) will seem less-rare but it’s actually because of the sheer numbers who have caught it.

[Vanessa]

The infection increase from last week is not that dramatic given they are surge testing

Yes, the affected areas are mass testing.
But they're also vaccinatting as much as they can.

[arista]

COVID-19: Vietnam detects 'more transmissible'
coronavirus variant thought to be hybrid of UK and Indian strains

[It comes as the country grapples with a spike in infections
after largely controlling the virus over the past year.
The announcement about the variant was made
by health minister Nguyen Thanh Long,
who described it as "dangerous".]


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-vietnam-detects-more-transmissible-coronavirus-variant-thought-to-be-hybrid-of-uk-and-indian-strains-12320126

[arista]

Bloody China Wet markets
Destroying our World.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands will send supplies to Suriname, what health minister Hugo de Jonge has said

oxygen supplies, and also till end of June 750.000 doses of AstraZenica


Suriname are in ''Code Black'' critical levels, uncontrollable situation of covid, fully in lockdown now, all hospitals there are full, oxygen shortages

[Zizu]

Highly acclaimed Professor Timothy Gowers on Sky News now..

He’s feeling very anxious as the numbers are increasing exponentially day on day

He hopes that we don’t delay the next lockdown too long ....


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[Zizu]

Hospitalisations and deaths have remained low for a while now.



The Indian variant is only really just kicking in though ?!?


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[Zizu]

The infection increase from last week is not that dramatic given they are surge testing



Yes Saturday to Saturday maybe

Wasn’t the increase far higher yesterday
( Friday to Friday ) ?


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[Zizu]

Realistically we will be able to judge the numbers in another couple of weeks as it takes time for things to filter through. With a bit of luck the vaccination roll out continues to prove itself



Agreed

It could look so different in two weeks time ... hopefully things are still looking good as regards hospitalisations and deaths


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[Zizu]

Bloody China Wet markets
Destroying our World.



Isn’t the latest data out just today - pointing to it being a man-made virus ??


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Bloody China Wet markets
Destroying our World.

It was a lab escape and when this is fully established(its pretty much provable now) China and its communism will have to pay

[user104658]

It was a lab escape and when this is fully established(its pretty much provable now) China and its communism will have to pay

Chinese economy is reliant on global trade and global trade is reliant on China. So what can be done?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Chinese economy is reliant on global trade and global trade is reliant on China. So what can be done?

all i can think is sanctions of some kind but they must be punished even if its for the cover-up, reluctance to provide information, warning.

and WHO with their pathetic investigation must also be held to the metal

[bots]

As TS pointed out from the beginning, that lab at the origin was always highly suspicious, and the chinese cannot be trusted at all, so what i don't understand is why the WHO let them off the hook so early on. The only thing it can realistically be is corruption. If the WHO had come straight out and said, this looks really bad ... the world would have shut its borders much more effectively. It probably was already too late, but still. I dont think much can be done about China, but we sure can fix the WHO

[Zizu]

https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1398723316437893120?s=21


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[user104658]

all i can think is sanctions of some kind but they must be punished even if its for the cover-up, reluctance to provide information, warning.

and WHO with their pathetic investigation must also be held to the metal


Have to say, some of the stuff with the WHO was extremely sus from the off... mainly just that statements were coming out supposedly from the high-ups at the WHO that sounded like CCP propaganda. It was bizarre. They didn’t just absolve China of wrong-doing, they were like “Actually China is a shining example to the world of the best handling of anything, ever”.

There’s a strong argument that they were appeasing them for access, but I don’t think it’s impossible for there to have been some aspect of actual control or coercion.

[Nicky91]

South Korea have been doing amazing ever since start of pandemic


China's approach also good i guess


the only asian countries who seem to be struggling now Japan, and more recently India



although India's daily case numbers are decreasing i've seen yesterday and day before


Japan just needs one strong lockdown now to push through this wave of theirs they face currently



overall the asian approach compared to europe or even the US is much better, since privacy in terms of app is also no problem there compared to over here, so the corona warn app works more efficiently there

[arista]

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[bots]

The head of NHS Providers has said "very, very few" Covid patients in hospital in England have received two coronavirus jabs - showing the vaccines provide "very high" levels of protection.

Chris Hopson said patients tended now to be younger - meaning there was a lower need for critical care.

But he said it was "incredibly striking" how busy hospitals were, as they deal with non-Covid backlogs.

Trusts were going "full pelt", he said.

more at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57294438

[Zizu]

The head of NHS Providers has said "very, very few" Covid patients in hospital in England have received two coronavirus jabs - showing the vaccines provide "very high" levels of protection.

Chris Hopson said patients tended now to be younger - meaning there was a lower need for critical care.

But he said it was "incredibly striking" how busy hospitals were, as they deal with non-Covid backlogs.

Trusts were going "full pelt", he said.

more at https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-57294438



Let’s hope we can believe him


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[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

2.785 new cases 622 less than yesterday (average continues to go down)

1.327 total hospitalisations 25 less than yesterday (75 new hospitalisations)

486 total ICU patients (14 new ICU patients)

6 new deaths

[Zizu]

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I-

they can't do that, you cannot make vaccines compulsory

[bots]

i heard someone saying there isnt an employment tribunal in the land that would uphold someone getting sacked for not being vaccinated. Which is interesting when set beside the fact that the person is effectively risking killing the patients they have sworn an oath to treat to the best of their ability

[Zizu]

i heard someone saying there isnt an employment tribunal in the land that would uphold someone getting sacked for not being vaccinated. Which is interesting when set beside the fact that the person is effectively risking killing the patients they have sworn an oath to treat to the best of their ability



.. and their own family and friends


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[bots]

I-

they can't do that, you cannot make vaccines compulsory

Surgeons are already compulsorily vaccinated for hepatitis, so, yes, they can do that

[Nicky91]

Surgeons are already compulsorily vaccinated for hepatitis, so, yes, they can do that

vaccinate to what?

protect others, that sort of bull****


you don't protect others when getting vaccinated, you only give yourself protection, but you are still a danger to others

[Nicky91]

vaccination is more important for those vulnerable, elderly whom covid is more fatal to


that is why numbers are going down now in hospitalisations, ICU, deaths

[Cherie]

Let’s hope we can believe him


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Why would he lie, of what benefit would that be in his job :shrug:

[Zizu]

Why would he lie, of what benefit would that be in his job :shrug:



I really don’t believe anyone these days apartment from Chris Whitby and Patrick Vallance


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[AnnieK]

Indian variant hotspot Bolton is seeing case levels start to decrease now, by 10% in 4 days. They are citing surge testing and ramped up vaccines as massively helping.

[Vanessa]

Indian variant hotspot Bolton is seeing case levels start to decrease now, by 10% in 4 days. They are citing surge testing and ramped up vaccines as massively helping.

That's really good!

[Nicky91]

Indian variant hotspot Bolton is seeing case levels start to decrease now, by 10% in 4 days. They are citing surge testing and ramped up vaccines as massively helping.

some good news


thanks for sharing Annie

[bots]

Indian variant hotspot Bolton is seeing case levels start to decrease now, by 10% in 4 days. They are citing surge testing and ramped up vaccines as massively helping.

yeah we moan and groan a lot, but they are learning how to deal with it better. We shouldn't minimise the logistics that are going into this in multiple areas around the country

[arista]

Sunday 30/5/21

6 have Died
3,240 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
870

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
120


127,781 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bots]

So the infection rate is down from yesterday, that backs up what Annie was saying

[Cherie]

Sunday 23 May 21

5 Have died
2,235 Have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
908

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
123


127,721 Total UK Deaths.



https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Sunday 30/5/21

6 have Died
3,240 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
870

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
120


127,781 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[bots]

so the number in hospital is down on the week!

[Vanessa]

I'm so happy! Everything looks good at the moment.

[Zizu]

Indian variant hotspot Bolton is seeing case levels start to decrease now, by 10% in 4 days. They are citing surge testing and ramped up vaccines as massively helping.



Wonderful !!!!!


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[Zizu]

So the infection rate is down from yesterday, that backs up what Annie was saying



Fabulous !!


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News must be quiet if they’re having to resort to this nonsense


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[arista]

News must be quiet if they’re having to resort to this nonsense




You can not blame them
to be not like the other papers

[Zizu]

You can not blame them

to be not like the other papers



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[Zizu]

You can not blame them

to be not like the other papers


My comment applies to any or all the newspapers

Does everyone know that NEWS comes from North, East , West and the South ??


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[arista]

Evil Criminals in India
Sold Meds for Covid
they were fake

The patients died.

BBC World News HD

[arista]

SkyNewsHD

Live paper review
saying how packed the beaches
will get today.
So close people will be.

[arista]

From GMBHD itv
Paper Review Live

Johnson PM approval was +6
is now -6

Labour Leader is on -9




Sad bbc
no paper review.

[arista]

Burnley Hospital
has 25 Covid Patients inside it.

GMBHD itv
reporter outside the hospital.

[bots]

we had all this same stuff last year about beaches being crowded, and it didnt affect infections at all. In the sun,and fresh air, it's not a problem

[arista]

Covid-19 Cases /Deaths from around the World



New Layout from the site ,they are now fixed on
Cases first in red,




Cases and Deaths by Country/Region/Sovereignty




33,259,389 | 594,431 USA
28,047,534 | 329,100 India
16,515,120 | 461,931 Brazil
5,728,418 | 109,562 France
5,242,911 | 47,405 Turkey
5,005,171 | 119,130 Russia
4,499,937 | 128,043 UK
4,216,003 | 126,046 Italy
3,753,609 | 77,456 Argentina
3,687,715 | 88,447 Germany
3,668,658 | 79,905 Spain
3,383,279 | 88,282 Colombia
2,902,094 | 79,939 Iran
2,871,950 | 73,738 Poland
2,412,810 | 223,507 Mexico
2,260,765 | 52,568 Ukraine
1,955,469 | 69,342 Peru
1,816,041 | 50,404 Indonesia
1,674,694 | 17,895 Netherlands
1,661,159 | 30,104 Czechia
1,659,070 | 56,363 South Africa
1,386,358 | 25,473 Canada
1,377,507 | 29,168 Chile
1,223,627 | 20,860 Philippines
1,197,082 | 16,351 Iraq
1,077,584 | 30,276 Romania
1,068,473 | 14,451 Sweden


https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[Vanessa]

we had all this same stuff last year about beaches being crowded, and it didnt affect infections at all. In the sun,and fresh air, it's not a problem

Yes. Outside in the fresh air shouldn't be a problem.

[arista]

Sir Dave King
chair Independent ,SAGE

GMBHD itv

Gave us a New Number of Deaths in the UK
20 High School Children have Died from Covid

Going back to the Total of High School Children Deaths he said its 30.



King also stated Hospitalization
is increasing except for one the East of England.

[Ammi]

…to be fair though, we don’t know the ‘problems’ so caution is always the way and assuming problems as well and assessing them…last year we were only a few months in so there is a lot more known now than there was then and with that knowledge some of the scientific advise is still to apply caution here and now as the problem risk is still there and it’s a crucial time in seeking a light out of the COVID tunnel…freedoms do need to return but freedoms also need to have problem risks and caution applied to them…

[arista]

Yes Ammi
Open Up Fully
on June 21st
is Crazy.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: schools are as of today fully reopened, a MUST to be open for the entire week, full school days

so no longer a choice if some want to remain closed


parents must have self test kits, testing their children each day before they head off to school, and they must notify school staff of rapid test result, in case of a positive test, that specific child must take a pcr test at area in front of school, and head back home and await test result

[bots]

it's fine to be cautious at the right time, its also right to stop worrying when the time is right too. Getting out in the sun and fresh air does wonders for peoples mental and physical health. Outside the hot spot areas, infections are non existent. In my area, we haven't had a single infection in a month

[Ammi]

…it’s isn’t about worrying, it isn’t about one thing or another, it’s about balance…and showing caution with our freedoms as we’re experiencing them again…and as scientific advise suggests…not a problem isn’t really something that we could know the accuracy of…so caution, always….sunlight has uplifting benefits but crammed beaches…not so necessary…

[arista]

…it’s isn’t about worrying, it isn’t about one thing or another, it’s about balance…and showing caution with our freedoms as we’re experiencing them again…and as scientific advise suggests…not a problem isn’t really something that we could know the accuracy of…so caution, always….sunlight has uplifting benefits but crammed beaches…not so necessary…


Why is the Government
keeping School Children Covid Deaths Secret?


It took GMBHD itv Live
to give is this New Data from Sir Dave King.
Even shocked the Other Scientist in Scotland.

[Ammi]

Why is the Government
keeping School Children Covid Deaths Secret?


It took GMBHD itv Live
to give is this New Data from Sir Dave King.
Even shocked the Other Scientist in Scotland.

…I can’t find that segment to see what is said of child COVID deaths and nothing is coming on Google yet, so I’ll keep looking out for it…

[arista]

…I can’t find that segment to see what is said of child COVID deaths and nothing is coming on Google yet, so I’ll keep looking out for it…


Thats because Johnson PM and his team
is keeping those numbers hidden.



Good On GMBHD itv
with a live Interview with Sir Dave King.

[AnnieK]

Why is the Government
keeping School Children Covid Deaths Secret?


It took GMBHD itv Live
to give is this New Data from Sir Dave King.
Even shocked the Other Scientist in Scotland.

I would imagine that laws around releasing data could be different when it comes to children Arista. They could have a multitude of underlying health problems. Why is it an issue to you that 20 out of 150,000 could have been high school age. Ever death is the loss of a loved one regardless of age :shrug:

[bots]

…it’s isn’t about worrying, it isn’t about one thing or another, it’s about balance…and showing caution with our freedoms as we’re experiencing them again…and as scientific advise suggests…not a problem isn’t really something that we could know the accuracy of…so caution, always….sunlight has uplifting benefits but crammed beaches…not so necessary…

i'm fully vaccinated, infections are zero in my area, the weather is beautiful, so after 18 months of worry, i'm going to enjoy myself. We can worry about anything and everything at the expense of living, so for me. the time is right to start living as i want to again. Others may well feel differently, but it's my life and my choice from here on out

[arista]

8:25AM Live GMBHD itv

Former Apprentice star and business owner
Bushra Shaikh
Does not care about the Quarantine rules
for Dubai.


On another Screen Dr. Rachel Clarke
said she is Selfish and Irresponsible
(she also said her Hospital was overloaded
at the weekend)

[user104658]

…I can’t find that segment to see what is said of child COVID deaths and nothing is coming on Google yet, so I’ll keep looking out for it…

Thats because Johnson PM and his team
is keeping those numbers hidden.



Good On GMBHD itv
with a live Interview with Sir Dave King.

https://cdn.mortonsalt.com/wp-content/uploads/pinch-large.gif

Need to see an actual report or study Arista.

[arista]

8:25AM Live GMBHD itv

Former Apprentice star and business owner
Bushra Shaikh
Does not care about the Quarantine rules
for Dubai.


On another Screen Dr. Rachel Clarke
said she is Selfish and Irresponsible
(she also said her Hospital was overloaded
at the weekend)






Bushra Shaikh (Live GMBHD itv)

Said Give Over

What a Bitch

[arista]

[Need to see an actual report or study Arista.]

Yes it was in front of him.

[Ammi]

i'm fully vaccinated, infections are zero in my area, the weather is beautiful, so after 18 months of worry, i'm going to enjoy myself. We can worry about anything and everything at the expense of living, so for me. the time is right to start living as i want to again. Others may well feel differently, but it's my life and my choice from here on out

…absolutely, bots…that has no bearing on anything that I’ve said though in that we don’t know for sure what ‘is or isn’t a problem’ so caution and balance is always advised…and that’s exactly the advise given by some experts right now…what advise is taken or practised etc…well, that’s a personal choice …very packed beaches may or may not be problematic, we don’t know for sure…hence the measured advise in looking at less crowded/populated outdoor spaces as being a good balance …

[Nicky91]

i'm fully vaccinated, infections are zero in my area, the weather is beautiful, so after 18 months of worry, i'm going to enjoy myself. We can worry about anything and everything at the expense of living, so for me. the time is right to start living as i want to again. Others may well feel differently, but it's my life and my choice from here on out

as long as you don't spread your virus germs onto others

[Zizu]

we had all this same stuff last year about beaches being crowded, and it didnt affect infections at all. In the sun,and fresh air, it's not a problem



I’d love to see the week on week stats for Blackpool next week


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[Zizu]

Why is the Government
keeping School Children Covid Deaths Secret?


It took GMBHD itv Live
to give is this New Data from Sir Dave King.
Even shocked the Other Scientist in Scotland.



Maybe they don’t want folk like me working in high schools worrying even more than we are doing ...

They should have highlighted the numbers and maybe the teenagers would have taken the pandemic more seriously and behaved accordingly instead of convincing them they were all going to be unaffected by Covid.


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[arista]

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[Cherie]

Covid-19 Cases /Deaths from around the World



New Layout from the site ,they are now fixed on
Cases first in red,




Cases and Deaths by Country/Region/Sovereignty




33,259,389 | 594,431 USA
28,047,534 | 329,100 India
16,515,120 | 461,931 Brazil
5,728,418 | 109,562 France
5,242,911 | 47,405 Turkey
5,005,171 | 119,130 Russia
4,499,937 | 128,043 UK
4,216,003 | 126,046 Italy
3,753,609 | 77,456 Argentina
3,687,715 | 88,447 Germany
3,668,658 | 79,905 Spain
3,383,279 | 88,282 Colombia
2,902,094 | 79,939 Iran
2,871,950 | 73,738 Poland
2,412,810 | 223,507 Mexico
2,260,765 | 52,568 Ukraine
1,955,469 | 69,342 Peru
1,816,041 | 50,404 Indonesia
1,674,694 | 17,895 Netherlands
1,661,159 | 30,104 Czechia
1,659,070 | 56,363 South Africa
1,386,358 | 25,473 Canada
1,377,507 | 29,168 Chile
1,223,627 | 20,860 Philippines
1,197,082 | 16,351 Iraq
1,077,584 | 30,276 Romania
1,068,473 | 14,451 Sweden


https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

Pre vaccination we were told an increase in infections would mean an increase in deaths, and we saw that in the winter, quite a few countries there with very high infection levels but comparatively low death rate...mmm

[Nicky91]

https://www.nationnews.com/2021/05/28/four-caribbean-countries-record-covid-19-deaths/

Suriname, Guyana, Jamaica, Trinidad & Tobago are the top 4 of covid death nations in the caribbean


https://www.bing.com/search?q=suriname+covid+&qs=n&form=QBRE&sp=-1&pq=suriname+covid+&sc=4-15&sk=&cvid=ED8F2623CA7D41418E942AA9FB8A36E2

there is a graphic here at bing search, very sad but true still going up in Suriname the amount of covid cases each day

[bots]

Pre vaccination we were told an increase in infections would mean an increase in deaths, and we saw that in the winter, quite a few countries there with very high infection levels but comparatively low death rate...mmm

it's always been linked to the vulnerable demographic, so there can be very high infections with low death rate.

As i was saying a few days ago, over in india there is evidence of younger folks dying from that variant, and the last thing we want is for that to be replicated here because so far across the world young folks have been affected very little

[Zizu]

Wonder what on earth triggered these events ?

Alcohol ?

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[DouglasS]

Wonder what on earth triggered these events ?

Alcohol ?

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Oh my god I was at formby beach yesterday, and did see lots of police arrive but had no idea it was about a stabbing thought it was because there were loads of high schoolers fighting

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Zizu]

Oh my god I was at formby beach yesterday, and did see lots of police arrive but had no idea it was about a stabbing thought it was because there were loads of high schoolers fighting

Wow I’m so glad you and your family didn’t see what was happening !!!


One person is critical the other two have very serious injuries .

Who on earth takes an axe and a samurai sword to a flamin’ beach !!


Jees - THREE stabbings ... and youths fighting - as we all start the trek back to normality - yikes
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[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

2.134 new cases (average continues to decrease a lot)

1.327 total hospitalisations (55 new hospitalisations)

477 total ICU patients (10 new ICU patients)

2 new deaths

[Zizu]

Pre vaccination we were told an increase in infections would mean an increase in deaths, and we saw that in the winter, quite a few countries there with very high infection levels but comparatively low death rate...mmm



I find the whole thing very puzzling tbh

The fact that it keeps throwing up so many unfathomables maybe indicates that it is indeed a man-made creation as the latest data suggests


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[arista]

[The Indian variant latest Public Health England figures showed,
in the worst-hit areas there were:

1,354 cases identified in Bolton
366 in Bedford
361 in Blackburn
197 in Leicester

However, just because it's the most common strain
in some places doesn't mean there's lots of it about.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-57157496

[bots]

The UK economy's recovery from the pandemic is set to be stronger than previously thought, a leading international agency has suggested.

The Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development says the UK is likely to grow 7.2% in 2021, up from its March projection of 5.1%.

The OECD raised its forecast for global growth to 5.8%, compared with the 4.2% it predicted in December.

However, it warned that growth would not be shared evenly.

The UK's growth is set to be the fastest among the large rich countries, the OECD says.

UK Chancellor Rishi Sunak attributed the strength of the forecast to the success of the UK's vaccine rollout and the government's Plan for Jobs.

However, he cautioned that with debt at nearly 100% of GDP, there was a need to "ensure public finances remain on a sure footing".

[Cherie]

Twickenham Stadium opened up as England’s largest vaccine centre, anyone over 18 can turn up

[Beso]

Its kicking off in shepherds bush at a freedom rally..

You can watch it on YouTube.

[arista]

Twickenham Stadium opened up as England’s largest vaccine centre, anyone over 18 can turn up



Yes well done to all those helping out.

[arista]

Its kicking off in shepherds bush at a freedom rally..

You can watch it on YouTube.


Yes Post on Alf's

Live Protest Thread

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11052896#post11052896

[Beso]

Yes Post on Alf's

Live Protest Thread

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?p=11052896#post11052896

Thanks you .

[Zizu]

Have I missed today’s stats / figures somehow ?


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[arista]

Have I missed today’s stats / figures somehow ?




I will do them now

[arista]

Bank Holiday Monday 31/5/21

1 Died
3,383 Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
870

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
120


127,782 Total Deaths UK


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Ch4HDnews
says Nepal has a massive increase
more than 8,000 new cases.

The India supply of Vaccine
has now run out


A few weeks ago
the border to India was fully open.

They have run out of body bags

[arista]

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[bots]

Covid variants will now be given greek letters to identify them to stop stigmatising countries

So

UK alpha
SA beta
Brazil gamma
India delta

[arista]

Covid variants will now be given greek letters to identify them to stop stigmatising countries

So

UK alpha
SA beta
Brazil gamma
India delta


Its to late
the Damage is Done.


Indian Variant found to be worse in 9-15 year old kids
(Ref: Sir Dave King, yesterday)

[Nicky91]

Peru worst affected country by coronacrisis

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/31/peru-adjusts-covid-19-death-toll-to-over-180000

[Vanessa]

Bank Holiday Monday 31/5/21

1 Died
3,383 Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
870

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
120


127,782 Total Deaths UK


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Wow, that's really good. Only one death

[Vanessa]

I was at the seaside yesterday and as you can imagine it was packed.
But we won't get may days of sunshine this year, so we have to make the most of it.

[user104658]

Peru worst affected country by coronacrisis

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/31/peru-adjusts-covid-19-death-toll-to-over-180000

Sadly, I think this will be the case with many developing countries, the official numbers won't reflect the true situation. e.g. I suspect the true death toll in India is likely far higher than the reported number. Probably Brazil, too.

[bots]

the vaccines are effective against the delta variant, so the worst case is that we have to vaccinate to younger age groups. We have the vaccines, we have the distribution and vaccination processes so its within our power to sort out

[Nicky91]

i definitely have decided now i don't want the toxic vaccine rubbish

[Ammi]

…:laugh:…vaccinologists all over the world looking at their job fulfilment levels this morning…having spent night and day and night and day and….

https://media.giphy.com/media/9Y5BbDSkSTiY8/giphy.gif

[arista]

i definitely have decided now i don't want the toxic vaccine rubbish



Toxic Covid-19
is far worse,
Nicky

[arista]

I was at the seaside yesterday and as you can imagine it was packed.
But we won't get may days of sunshine this year, so we have to make the most of it.



Good you managed to make it
to the Seaside.

[user104658]

the vaccines are effective against the delta variant, so the worst case is that we have to vaccinate to younger age groups. We have the vaccines, we have the distribution and vaccination processes so its within our power to sort out

In theory the mRNA vaccines (Pfizer and Moderna) can be reprogrammed extremely quickly to target any new strain that arises and technically don't "need" extensive testing as they're essentially the same vaccine in terms of "wots going into your body" - although there might be regulatory changes in some places needed for that sort of fast-tracking.

So looking at the longer term, with that being the case, if ongoing "new strains" are an issue then life going back to normal relies mainly on massively increasing vaccine production & roll-out infrastructure in a more permanent form (most likely large, permanent vaccination facilities).

Will most countries actually pull their finger out in terms of organising something like that? Well... who knows. But in theory that's what might be needed.

The mRNA tech is truly fascinating and an absolutely gargantuan medical breakthrough in general... that aspect of it has sort of gone under the radar because it's all "linked to Covid". If this tech had been completed and rolled out in "normal times" for a pre-existing virus, it would have been huge news on its own.

[user104658]

Can you tell I wish I had been given a sparkly mRNA vaccine instead of smelly viral vector AZ :joker:.

I'm hoping that any future "tweaked" vaccines will give the option and I'm not stuck with AZ forever because I got it early :hmph:.

[arista]

You could have a Top Up
of the One Shot Johnson
later this year

TS.

[bots]

i remain very positive because we have all the pieces in place to sort out things as new challenges arise from variants etc. A year ago were were like ... "oh dear" ... :laugh:

[Vanessa]

I'm glad I'm vaccinated.
It definitely makes me feel safer.

[bots]

Not the most up to date, but it does provide context

https://i.imgur.com/EPWDmRN.png

[user104658]

Not the most up to date, but it does provide context

https://i.imgur.com/EPWDmRN.png

Love how "radiation poisoning" is snuck in there as a possible other cause of death! I mean yes obviously extremely low risk but ... why does it make the list at all? Why are people regularly dying of radiation poisoning across the US :joker:.

[edit] Wait, those are UK stats! :umm2: damn you Chernobyl...

[user104658]

One Shot Johnson


So that's why he apparently has so many illegitimate kids...

[DouglasS]

Not the most up to date, but it does provide context

https://i.imgur.com/EPWDmRN.png

This is why I think it’s ridiculous to extend restrictions, the whole point was to ensure the NHS does not get overwhelmed and now some hospitals don’t even have a single covid patient… making deaths zero is never going to happen, but that seems to be the new metric we have to achieve now that hospitalisation are dramatically down (which was meant to be the metric and purpose of the lockdown and restrictions). I think certain restrictions should stay such as masks on transport etc, but I am talking about closing down of businesses, festivals, parades, nightlife etc.

1) our way of counting deaths, just dying and having a positive test is ridiculous - most are not even COVID-19 deaths, just our testing capacity is so high that people do in fact die within 30 days of a test if you are testing 100,000+ people a day…
2) covid is international it’ll never die out, people will always sadly die from it, but it’s numbers are so few now it is below many other causes such as suicide etc - and the lockdown may actually kill more people than it saves (and likely a lot younger people with a full life ahead of them)

[Cherie]

.

Not the most up to date, but it does provide context

https://i.imgur.com/EPWDmRN.png

and the two main pre-existing conditions are being fat, and having type 2 diabetes, both entirely avoidable conditions

[Vanessa]

I don't mind waiting a bit longer for restrictions to end.
They need to make sure that is safe to do so.

[arista]

Peru worst affected country by coronacrisis

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/5/31/peru-adjusts-covid-19-death-toll-to-over-180000


Yes Sad in Peru


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[bots]

i applaud them for being honest now, other countries should do the same

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: tuesday of course as usual the day we look back at last weeks numbers

over last week: 20.608 positive tests (a decrease of 18% from the week before)

over last week: 555 new hospitalisations, 103 new ICU patients, in both it is a decrease of one third compared to week before

R-number half May was at 0.8 (that means 100 infected people can infect 80 others


so the effect of the vaccinations has been very much visible now

total number of vaccinated people are 9.5 million

-----------------

thanks to good corona numbers


more fans at Euro2020 matches of Netherlands in Amsterdam, from 12.000 to 16.000

[arista]

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[Zizu]

Its to late
the Damage is Done.


Indian Variant found to be worse in 9-15 year old kids
(Ref: Sir Dave King, yesterday)



Wow .

Maybe that will give the teenagers something to focus on now and maybe a few more them will start behaving responsibly


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[Zizu]

Not the most up to date, but it does provide context

https://i.imgur.com/EPWDmRN.png



So where exactly are the stats from ?

Near the bottom it clearly says that these people believe that the UK figures are artificially inflated ..

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[bots]

they are uk covid figures, and people have been arguing about what a valid covid death is right from the start. The way the uk does it, anyone that dies within a time period that caught covid is put down as a covid death, and of course if these are vulnerable people they could easily have died from some other cause. Personally, i think the best figures are the ONS death stats that show excess deaths from year to year, those cant be manipulated the way the covid figures are

[user104658]

Essentially the UK figures are "worst case scenario" figures, over-estimates that cover the possibility that ALL deaths after a positive Covid test are Covid deaths. That's not likely and results in "inflated" figures but, it's less problematic to OVER-estimate the numbers than "be optimistic" and under-estimate them. That's why they've used UK stats. They're saying, "these are the percentages at worst, they may even be lower".

[arista]

Wow .

Maybe that will give the teenagers something to focus on now and maybe a few more them will start behaving responsibly




They should Start Vaccinating
Teens.

[bots]

zero UK deaths reported today!!!

[arista]

zero UK deaths reported today!!!


Tuesday 1/6/21


0 Deaths
3,165 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
870

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
120


127,782 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[user104658]

zero UK deaths reported today!!!

Bank holiday weekend bots.

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[bots]

Bank holiday weekend bots.

https://media.tenor.com/images/9f8c40ee171e3802d36878100e2bdaea/tenor.gif

we have had plenty bank holidays and weekends since we went into the first lockdown and we have never had a day of zero covid deaths across the whole of the uk. It may go back up tomorrow, it's not the point. This is a day to celebrate or as Maggie Thatcher would have said "rejoice ... rejoice ..."

[Vanessa]

zero UK deaths reported today!!!

Omg that's brilliant!

[Cherie]

Tuesday 25/5/21

15 people have Died
2,493 Have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
978

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
121


127,739 Total UK Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Tuesday 1/6/21


0 Deaths
3,165 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
870

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
120


127,782 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Infection up 600 ish not massive at all with all the surge testing going on

[arista]

Scotland

[Edinburgh and Midlothian, Dundee,
East Dunbartonshire, Renfrewshire,
East Renfrewshire, North, South and East Ayrshire,
North and South Lanarkshire, Clackmannanshire
and Stirling have not yet
met the criteria to see restrictions ease,
Ms Sturgeon said.]

As a result, those areas will remain under Level 2 restrictions.



[And another 18 local authorities will see
restrictions ease from Saturday to
move down to Level 1 measures.
These are Highland, Argyll & Bute, Aberdeen City
and Aberdeenshire, Moray, Angus,
Perth & Kinross, Falkirk, Fife, Inverclyde,
East and West Lothian, West Dunbartonshire,
Dumfries & Galloway and the Borders.]

[However, Glasgow will move down from Level 3 to Level 2 from Saturday.]


https://news.sky.com/story/easing-of-covid-restrictions-for-most-of-scotland-to-be-delayed-sturgeon-says-12322250

[Zizu]

zero UK deaths reported today!!!



Stupendous news given the rise of the Indian variant


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Vanessa]

Stupendous news given the rise of the Indian variant


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Something to celebrate finally!

[user104658]

we have had plenty bank holidays and weekends since we went into the first lockdown and we have never had a day of zero covid deaths across the whole of the uk. It may go back up tomorrow, it's not the point. This is a day to celebrate or as Maggie Thatcher would have said "rejoice ... rejoice ..."


For people who can fool themselves for a morale boost maybe. The number is obviously low and that is great - but it’s also obviously not zero and there’s little to be gained from pretending that it is. You end up like a Trump fan on election night, seeing him ahead in the votes and celebrating a win, then finding it hard to accept that the votes had only been half counted.

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

Netherlands: 40.000 AstraZeneca vaccine doses expected to go to Suriname next week

at first was thought to be half June but it is possible to send them earlier


there'll be between 500.000 and 750.000 vaccine doses to Suriname from Netherlands, also some work made for a donation of 50.000 Moderna vaccine doses


yesterday first plane departed for that country with PPE and Oxygen supplies

[Crimson Dynamo]

The country cannot "scamper down a rabbit hole" with every new variant, Sir John Bell has warned, as Boris Johnson comes under increasing pressure to stick to reopening on June 21.

Sir John, a leading member of the Oxford AstraZeneca vaccine team, urged the Government to stick to the unlocking roadmap and ensure we "move on" rather than delay reopening the country due to new variants.

The Oxford University professor of medicine told BBC Radio 4's Today: "If we scamper down a rabbit hole every time we see a new variant, we're going to spend a long time huddled away".

He cautioned that coronavirus "is here to stay probably forever", and said that the Government should focus on managing "hospitalisations, serious disease and deaths" rather than cases.

The Prime Minister is due to speak this afternoon about the prospects for the June 21 reopening, but No 10 cautioned on Tuesday that it had not yet received the definitive data from government scientists and modelers at this point.

Mr Johnson is under increasing pressure to reopen as planned after the UK yesterday recorded zero Covid deaths for the first time since the pandemic began, and the NHS prepares to reach the milestone of three-quarters of adults vaccinated with their first dose by the end of Wednesday.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/coronavirus-news-daily-deaths-coronavirus-vaccine-lockdown-news/

[bots]

things can be re-opened and people can still be sensible, they are not mutually exclusive or at least they shouldnt be. I'm certainly going to be cautious while still living my life.

We have had doom and gloom about variants from the moment we had a vaccine and a positive way out of the chaos. If and when a variant becomes a problem we can do something about it, like tweak the vaccine and have a booster jab. No need to run away and hide anymore

[Vanessa]

I'm at Ruislip Lido.
What a gorgeous day and the place is stunning.
Loads of families with their children.
It really quite lovely to see them having fun.

[Zizu]

The UK has hit a "dangerous moment" in the pandemic, an expert has claimed, amid warnings that "vaccine-beating variants" will emerge in the future.

Dr David Nabarro, the World Health Organisation's special envoy on COVID-19, said that despite low infection levels, unlocking restrictions too quickly in the UK could create a further "spike" in infections.

He also issued a warning about variants, saying "vaccine-beating" forms of the virus will almost certainly emerge sooner or later.




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[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

2.602 new cases

1.189 total hospitalisations (that was 1.240 yesterday) (67 new hospitalisations, yesterday that were 77 new hospitalisations so a decrease of 10)

420 total ICU patients (that was 447 yesterday) (6 new ICU patients, same amount as yesterday)

12 new deaths

[arista]

The UK has hit a "dangerous moment" in the pandemic, an expert has claimed, amid warnings that "vaccine-beating variants" will emerge in the future.

Dr David Nabarro, the World Health Organisation's special envoy on COVID-19, said that despite low infection levels, unlocking restrictions too quickly in the UK could create a further "spike" in infections.

He also issued a warning about variants, saying "vaccine-beating" forms of the virus will almost certainly emerge sooner or later.



Yes he was Live on All Out Politics SkyNewsHD
and The Prime Minister said nothing new
it all depends on what they tell us on
Monday 14th June.

[arista]

I'm at Ruislip Lido.
What a gorgeous day and the place is stunning.
Loads of families with their children.
It really quite lovely to see them having fun.


https://secretldn.com/beach-in-london-ruislip-lido/


Yes Great Sand there.

[Cherie]

The UK has hit a "dangerous moment" in the pandemic, an expert has claimed, amid warnings that "vaccine-beating variants" will emerge in the future.

Dr David Nabarro, the World Health Organisation's special envoy on COVID-19, said that despite low infection levels, unlocking restrictions too quickly in the UK could create a further "spike" in infections.

He also issued a warning about variants, saying "vaccine-beating" forms of the virus will almost certainly emerge sooner or later.




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Maybe his time would be better spent educating vaccine hesitant countries!

[bots]

if something happens in the future, that is the time to worry about it, we can't update the vaccines until there is a variant that they don't currently stop :laugh:

[Vanessa]

If things carry on like this i think we will be able to open up as planned.

[Zizu]

Scotland have today isolated 7 or 8 of the euro squad - they will all miss tonight’s game of course


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[arista]

If things carry on like this i think we will be able to open up as planned.


What do think the Data will say
on Monday 14th June?

[arista]

Wednesday 2/6/21

12 have died
4,330 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
923

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
136

127,794 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Wednesday 26/5/21

9 Have Died
3,810 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
954


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
128


127,748 Total UK deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Wednesday 2/6/21

12 have died
4,330 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
923

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
136

127,794 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

.

[Cherie]

slight rise in those in ICU

500 more infections that last week

[arista]

slight rise in those in ICU

500 more infections that last week


Yes would be the Delta (Indian) Covid-19

[Crimson Dynamo]

Nearly 40 per cent of recent Covid victims died primarily of other conditions

Out of 107 Covid deaths registered in the week ending May 21, just 66 had the virus recorded as the underlying cause of death – 61.7 per

Telegraph

[Nicky91]

our numbers being again very good

:love:

[Cherie]

Netherlands todays numbers

2.602 new cases

1.189 total hospitalisations (that was 1.240 yesterday) (67 new hospitalisations, yesterday that were 77 new hospitalisations so a decrease of 10)

420 total ICU patients (that was 447 yesterday) (6 new ICU patients, same amount as yesterday)

12 new deaths

Wednesday 2/6/21

12 have died
4,330 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
923

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
136

127,794 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

our numbers being again very good

:love:

Are they :suspect:

[arista]

our numbers being again very good

:love:


You had 12 deaths.

We had 12 deaths

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Just great they’re now concerned about Portugal just days after thousands and thousands of Chelsea and ManCity fans have just returned from Lisbon !!

They must have had an inkling about this BEFORE the game surely


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[Zizu]

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[arista]

Just great they’re now concerned about Portugal just days after thousands and thousands of Chelsea and ManCity fans have just returned from Lisbon !!

They must have had an inkling about this BEFORE the game surely




Yes GMBHD itv
are saying they think
Portugal could change to Amber
today.

[Nicky91]

Are they :suspect:

You had 12 deaths.

We had 12 deaths

well i more meant we've come a long way in terms of our hospitalisation and ICU numbers

especially ICU which was first at very deep into 800, amid third wave


and hospitalisations also down quite a lot compared to amid third wave


so at least finally some pressure lifted from doctors/nurses their shoulders



our daily death numbers have always been kinda low, idk why (even amid third wave those weren't drastically high)

[Cherie]

Just 1 in 100 deaths in the last month has been covid related...

[Zizu]

Good Morning Britain survey results:-

A survey for GMB has found that 1 in 5 18-29 years olds will either refuse to take the vaccine when offered or are undecided.

Ryan Mark Parsons says under 30s 'don't have the right' to go to pubs and restaurants if they don't have the Covid-19 vaccine


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[Zizu]

Yes GMBHD itv

are saying they think

Portugal could change to Amber

today.



There will be fireworks if it comes out that they knew about the seriousness surrounding that new variant yet still allowed tens of thousands of English footie fans to travel to Lisbon and back !!


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[arista]

good morning britain survey results:-

a survey for gmb has found that 1 in 5 18-29 years olds will either refuse to take the vaccine when offered or are undecided.

ryan mark parsons says under 30s 'don't have the right' to go to pubs and restaurants if they don't have the covid-19 vaccine




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[Zizu]

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[bots]

Nepal's health department are not aware of it either. So take from that what you like

[MTVN]

Article in the Telegraph today saying that case numbers are now falling in half of the original hotspots of the Indian variant

[Vanessa]

Article in the Telegraph today saying that case numbers are now falling in half of the original hotspots of the Indian variant

That's very good!

[arista]

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[UserSince2005]

if boris doesnt open up mykonos now that is pride month then its a hate crime. i need my holiday

[arista]

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[arista]

No New Nations on the Green List Today


BBC

[arista]

article in the telegraph today saying that case numbers are now falling in half of the original hotspots of the indian variant


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[Zizu]

Just the Nepal variant , plus the Vietnamese hybrid plus the one Matt Hancock just mentioned ... the name of which sadly escapes me


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[MTVN]

1400418364787499010

Proud to be British :clap1:

[bots]

there is talk that portugal will be taken off the green list which would leave iceland as the only green list country accepting uk visitors :laugh:

[arista]

Yes Portugal is Now AMBER

[AnnieK]

there is talk that portugal will be taken off the green list which would leave iceland as the only green list country accepting uk visitors :laugh:

I know quite a few people in Portugal at the moment. They are going to be gutted :eek:

[Cherie]

there is talk that portugal will be taken off the green list which would leave iceland as the only green list country accepting uk visitors :laugh:

I wasn't aware that even if you are in a green list country you have to have a PCR test when you go and again when you come back, what a palava!

[Cherie]

1400418364787499010

that is brilliant news :fc:

[arista]

I know quite a few people in Portugal at the moment. They are going to be gutted :eek:


Yes Officially Amber now
shocker

[Cherie]

No New Nations on the Green List Today


BBC

I am quite glad

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

2.803 new cases 222 more than yesterday (but average is still decreasing)

1.098 total hospitalisations

394 total ICU patients

14 new deaths

[arista]

[Hopes of a summer holiday abroad have
been dashed as no new countries have been
added to the UK's green travel list and
Portugal has moved to amber.

No further countries are being moved
from the amber to green status in a
review of the government's travel traffic light system,
Sky News understands.

There were hopes some Greek and
Spanish islands, and Malta could have
been added to the green list in the first
review of the system since it came
into play three weeks ago.]

https://news.sky.com/story/holiday-hopes-hit-as-no-new-countries-added-to-uks-green-travel-list-and-portugal-moved-to-amber-12323752

[arista]

I wasn't aware that even if you are in a green list country you have to have a PCR test when you go and again when you come back, what a palava!


Yes High Costs
Another £200

[bots]

I know quite a few people in Portugal at the moment. They are going to be gutted :eek:

my brother and his wife are there now :laugh:

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/03/14/article-9647361-43789523-84_964x543.jpg

[Hundreds of Manchester City and Chelsea fans
who travelled to Portugal for the
Champions League final last weekend have
been ordered to self-isolate for 10 days - as the
country is axed from the UK's Green List.
Supporters who travelled on the 9am Ryanair flight from
Porto to Manchester on Sunday morning
have been contacted by the NHS's Test and Trace app
and told to self-isolate alongside three planeloads
of Chelsea fans, leading to fears that all 12,000
supporters who travelled from the UK to Lisbon
could be affected.
Both clubs organised flights for their supporters though
some travelled independently.
It is unclear how many supporters have tested positive.]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9647361/Disaster-British-holidaymakers-EU-refuses-UK-white-list.html

[Cherie]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9647361/Disaster-British-holidaymakers-EU-refuses-UK-white-list.html

[Hundreds of Manchester City and Chelsea fans
who travelled to Portugal for the
Champions League final last weekend have
been ordered to self-isolate for 10 days - as the
country is axed from the UK's Green List.
Supporters who travelled on the 9am Ryanair flight from
Porto to Manchester on Sunday morning
have been contacted by the NHS's Test and Trace app
and told to self-isolate alongside three planeloads
of Chelsea fans, leading to fears that all 12,000
supporters who travelled from the UK to Lisbon
could be affected.
Both clubs organised flights for their supporters though
some travelled independently.
It is unclear how many supporters have tested positive.]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9647361/Disaster-British-holidaymakers-EU-refuses-UK-white-list.html


I bleame UEFA for that debacle, the game should have been played at Wembley but they wanted all their delegates to be able to come with no testing involved :idc: and as the government wouldn't agree they moved it to Porto, no wonder Portugal is in a mess again

[Cherie]

my brother and his wife are there now :laugh:

:hehe:

[bots]

these fans have been back nearly a week already and will already have been out and about.

The rules don't change until next week anyway

it seems to me that the daily mail has completely gone into the land of fiction

[arista]

15:18
Breaking
Egypt to be added to red list

Caroline Davies BBC

Transport correspondent

Seven places are set to be added to the UK's foreign travel red list this afternoon. They are:

[Afghanistan
Bahrain
Costa Rica
Egypt
Sudan
Trinidad and Tobago
Sri Lanka ]

[arista]

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Simon Calder Independent's Travel Writer
In Green Zone
Gibraltar
not happy he has to pay
another £200 on return for a PCR test.

[arista]

Grant Shapps
Transport Secretary was on both news channels


He says it all about the Delta Variant (Indian)

[Vanessa]

This is why I'm not going abroad this year.
There's the quarantine and teh cost of the tests is too much.

[arista]

This is why I'm not going abroad this year.
There's the quarantine and teh cost of the tests is too much.



Yes its a Ripp Off
£200 when you return.

[bots]

the PCR tests start from £48 per person, most of the operators are £50