Coronavirus Outbreak : Plan B

[michael21]

Have we got case numbers for today yet?

arista will post when the numbers are released he very good like that

[arista]

Thursday 4/11/21

214 have Died
37,269 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
9,311


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,024


141,395 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Have we got case numbers for today yet?



Sorry for the delay
was in an Office meeting.

Now posted

[Zizu]

Thursday 28/10/21

165 have Died
39,842 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,914

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
945

140,206 UK Total Covid-19 Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


For comparison


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[arista]

Friday 5/11/21

193 have Died
34,029 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
9,160

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,034


Total UK deaths : 141,588


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[MTVN]

Cases way down!

Thank god we didn't rush in plan B

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Cherie]

Friday 29/10/21

186 have Died.
43,467 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,983

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
946

140,392 Total UK Deaths of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Friday 5/11/21

193 have Died
34,029 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
9,160

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,034


Total UK deaths : 141,588


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[Zizu]

On a pessimistic note we are heading towards 150,000 deaths ... hitting the dreaded figure around Christmas Day


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[joeysteele]

On a pessimistic note we are heading towards 150,000 deaths ... hitting the dreaded figure around Christmas Day


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More than likely very sadly.
With still losing over 1000 citizens every week.

[Beso]

On a pessimistic note we are heading towards 150,000 deaths ... hitting the dreaded figure around Christmas Day


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Oh, its 100 percemt being kept for that day:joker:

[bots]

Zizu, from Monday you can book your booster jab up to a month in advance of your 6 month date ... so get booking :wavey:

[Zizu]

Zizu, from Monday you can book your booster jab up to a month in advance of your 6 month date ... so get booking :wavey:


I certainly intend to !!


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[arista]

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[MTVN]

Arista is late so let me just tell you all that Covid cases fell massively today

[Zizu]

Arista is late so let me just tell you all that Covid cases fell massively today


Weekends figures always drop substantially


Next Tuesday’s and Wednesday’s even Thursdays will be interesting as the schools will have been back a week ..

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[MTVN]

Weekends figures always drop substantially


Next Tuesday’s and Wednesday’s even Thursdays will be interesting as the schools will have been back a week ..

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Ever the pessimist - I'm comparing to last Saturday not yesterday

[MTVN]

30,693 cases today fyi

41,278 last Saturday

[Zizu]

Ever the pessimist - I'm comparing to last Saturday not yesterday


Fair enough, you didn’t make it clear though .

We get someone saying ‘the infections are down today !” more or less every Saturday.

As regards being the eternal pessimist..I’m actually quite upbeat after this week .

Figures do seem to be plateauing although that could be due to the half term circuit break ... BUT we have effective medicines coming soon plus boosters .


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[MTVN]

Fair enough, you didn’t make it clear though .

We get someone saying ‘the infections are down today !” more or less every Saturday.

As regards being the eternal pessimist..I’m actually quite upbeat after this week .

Figures do seem to be plateauing although that could be due to the half term circuit break ... BUT we have effective medicines coming soon plus boosters .


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[bots]

when i used to commute every day, i saw the same people on every journey, there isn't infinite interactions. When social groups mix it's a similar thing. This means that infections have a finite spread. When the infection rate goes down it basically means these groups have been saturated with the current covid strain. With high vaccination rates, some people just won't be affected in groups at all. The infection rate will drop significantly at some point, it's a statistical certainty as long as the dominant strain remains the same

[arista]

Saturday 6/11/21

155 have Died
30,693 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
9,160

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,034


Total UK Deaths : 141,743

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

Saturday 30/10/21

166 Died
41,278 caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available (No change from Friday)
8,983

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
946 (No change from Friday)



140,558 have died of Covid-19 in the UK

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Last Saturday’s


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[arista]

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[arista]

BBC Text
[Saiqa Parveen, 37, died of the virus after
not choosing to have the jab - but her daughter
Dua survived after a Caesarean section,
the paper reports.]

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[Nicky91]

first two jabs are good for you i think (good thing i have finally decided to get the jab too on friday)

but i think boosters should be a free choice for everyone, but mainly should be recommended for risk groups and elderly

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

11.398 new cases

1.490 total hospitalisations

305 total on ICU/ventilators

8 new deaths

[Vicky.]

Oh, its 100 percemt being kept for that day:joker:

:laugh:

[Vicky.]

Ever the pessimist - I'm comparing to last Saturday not yesterday

Good thinking there matt. Seeing the replies before they came :D

[Vicky.]

BBC Text
[Saiqa Parveen, 37, died of the virus after
not choosing to have the jab - but her daughter
Dua survived after a Caesarean section,
the paper reports.]

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Sorry, because one person died, which is tragic of course, but one...all mums should have the vaccine? **** off. Thats not logic. People die for all kinds of reasons.

Mary died because she randomly became allergic to peanuts and ate a(n?!) M&M. Therefor all M&Ms are banned incase this happens to someone else.

[arista]

Sunday 7 /11/21

62 have Died
30,305 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
9,160

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,034

141,805 Total UK Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bots]

Zizu, i was able to book my booster jab today, if you book now you will avoid the rush :smug:

[Zizu]

Zizu, i was able to book my booster jab today, if you book now you will avoid the rush :smug:


We have to go through the local hospital as the wife is on their system .. apparently


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[Zizu]

Zizu, i was able to book my booster jab today, if you book now you will avoid the rush :smug:


Just seen this message on my NHS app

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[bots]

yes, but it's actually in effect today, because i booked mine

[Zizu]

yes, but it's actually in effect today, because i booked mine



It does say that your vaccine will still be after 6 months though even if you book it early ...


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[bots]

It does say that your vaccine will still be after 6 months though even if you book it early ...


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yes, but mine is on the exact date now ... all done without any messing about... easy as pie

[Zizu]

yes, but mine is on the exact date now ... all done without any messing about... easy as pie


Is there a link please


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[bots]

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/book-coronavirus-vaccination/book-or-manage-a-booster-dose-of-the-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine/

Just go ahead with the book now button ... and it will accept it

[arista]

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[arista]

BBC Text :
[The government is looking at plans to
prevent GPs from taking new jobs in
wealthy areas and "for them to work in deprived towns"
instead,
the Times reports. It says ministers
became interested in the proposal
after Health Secretary Sajid Javid
promised to eliminate the "disease of disparity"
of healthcare between rich and poor areas.]

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[arista]

BBC Text:
[The Daily Mail is reporting on "shocking research"
which indicates we inhale up to
7,000 microplastic particles daily.
The paper says the levels were 100 times
higher than expected and could be
a "potential health threat" comparable
to asbestos or tobacco.]


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[Zizu]

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/coronavirus-vaccination/book-coronavirus-vaccination/book-or-manage-a-booster-dose-of-the-coronavirus-covid-19-vaccine/

Just go ahead with the book now button ... and it will accept it


All done .. booked in for next Monday

Thank you !!


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[arista]

Monday 8/11/21

57 have Died
32,322 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,966

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,026



141,862 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bots]

All done .. booked in for next Monday

Thank you !!


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nice one!

[Zizu]

Monday 1/11/21

40 have Died
40,077 have caught Covid-19


Patients in hospital
Latest available
9,065

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
946

140,362 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Last Monday’s stats for comparison

Not too dissimilar although new infections appear to be around 10,000 fewer than last Monday’s ??

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[arista]

Last Monday’s stats for comparison

Not too dissimilar although new infections appear to be around 10,000 fewer than last Monday’s ??



Yes but ventilation beds
still above 1,000
that's not good

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes but ventilation beds
still above 1,000
that's not good

if the stats are true and if it means anything out of the normal

[bots]

the numbers on ventilator arent specific to covid and respiratory issues increase in the winter so the net increase could be upward even though those with covid on ventilator could be coming down.

[arista]

BBC Text:
[11,600 people caught Covid in hospital
after being admitted for
other illnesses - and then went on to die from it.
The paper says it has prompted renewed
calls for vaccination of NHS staff
to be mandatory,
which the government is expected
to announce this week.]

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[arista]

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[Zizu]

How soon are they to giving the new treatments the ok ??

I’m dreading getting it as you don’t seem to have any control as to wether it goes well or really bad for you ..https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211109/b641dbafc10bc652ff3935cd7a397a10.jpg


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[Cherie]

How soon are they to giving the new treatments the ok ??

I’m dreading getting it as you don’t seem to have any control as to wether it goes well or really bad for you ..https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211109/b641dbafc10bc652ff3935cd7a397a10.jpg


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As I understand it, you will only get this if you have an underlying condition i.e obseity, heart disease, diabetes

[bots]

the availability of pills is a starting position. As time goes by, just like the vaccine, it will become available to different groups

It's not just about the pills, there are better treatments coming out across the board. The chances of survival are orders of magnitude better than they were in march 2020. Vulnerable people are vulnerable to all sorts of diseases, unfortunately, it's just a fact of life

[Crimson Dynamo]

How soon are they to giving the new treatments the ok ??

I’m dreading getting it as you don’t seem to have any control as to wether it goes well or really bad for you ..https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211109/b641dbafc10bc652ff3935cd7a397a10.jpg


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In The Matrix, in which the protagonist is offered the choice of a red pill, representing truth and self-knowledge, or a blue pill representing a return to blissful ignorance. By analogy, it seeks to bring awareness to the contrast between the men's rights movement, fathers' rights groups, and what they perceive as gynocentrism in wider society.

:shocked:

[user104658]

In The Matrix, in which the protagonist is offered the choice of a red pill, representing truth and self-knowledge, or a blue pill representing a return to blissful ignorance. By analogy, it seeks to bring awareness to the contrast between the men's rights movement, fathers' rights groups, and what they perceive as gynocentrism in wider society.

:shocked:

That is SO far from an accurate description of what Reddit Redpilling is :joker:.

[Zizu]

nice one!


No mention of which type of booster though ?!?

I’m not too bothered oddly ... I’ve not heard any negative stories about having different vaccines for your booster


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[Zizu]

As I understand it, you will only get this if you have an underlying condition i.e obseity, heart disease, diabetes


Ah


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[bots]

No mention of which type of booster though ?!?

I’m not too bothered oddly ... I’ve not heard any negative stories about having different vaccines for your booster


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the booster is exclusively Pfizer

[Zizu]

the booster is exclusively Pfizer


Thank you !!


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[Cherie]

No mention of which type of booster though ?!?

I’m not too bothered oddly ... I’ve not heard any negative stories about having different vaccines for your booster


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you will only get Moderna or Pfizer as a booster

[user104658]

you will only get Moderna or Pfizer as a booster

They're pretty much only giving Pfizer at this point I've not heard a sniff of Moderna. They will actually still give AZ to people who had a bad reaction to Pfizer previously but I think you have to book it through your GP in that case.

[arista]

In The Matrix, in which the protagonist is offered the choice of a red pill, representing truth and self-knowledge, or a blue pill representing a return to blissful ignorance. By analogy, it seeks to bring awareness to the contrast between the men's rights movement, fathers' rights groups, and what they perceive as gynocentrism in wider society.

:shocked:


Yes the magic red pill.



And there is another Pill doing the same job.
(blue) I think.

[arista]

As I understand it, you will only get this if you have an underlying condition i.e obseity, heart disease, diabetes


And the other pill
is soon in the UK
for folks that get Covid and stay at home
taking the pill.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59178291


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[Cherie]

They're pretty much only giving Pfizer at this point I've not heard a sniff of Moderna. They will actually still give AZ to people who had a bad reaction to Pfizer previously but I think you have to book it through your GP in that case.

I know people who have had Moderna

[bots]

i don't think it makes much difference if it moderna or pfizer. Same type of vaccine

[arista]

Tuesday 9/11/21

262 have Died
33,117 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,900

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,025


142,124 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

Tuesday 2/11/21

293 have Died
33,865 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
9,538

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,030


140,964 Total Deaths UK


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Last Tuesday’s for comparison


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[Zizu]

Last Tuesday’s for comparison


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The daily stats all lower ( total deaths aside) than last Tuesday’s..

Hopefully this is the turning point and not just down to the half term circuit breaker


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Wales Covid Pass
now extended to Cinemas and Theatres.

[Nicky91]

ok well now we certainly know astrazeneca vaccine is one big flop


apparently in the age group 60-65 blood tests from blood bank Sanquin have shown in that particular age group especially antibodies are the lowest, over months of time after vaccination with astrazeneca



wise decision from my parents then to refuse astrazeneca and wait for pfizer





also in France, 80% of hospital patients, and ICU capacity are with people in ages between 50-64, including many of those who are vaccinated with AZ


same here in my nation, also most of ICU capacity filled with people of age group 60-65 whom were jabbed with AZ



the antibodies percentages came back higher from people who both had the vaccine and had covid before

[arista]

Cambridge
No Xmas Lights this year
because of Covid.


[Cambridge Christmas light switch on cancelled amid rising coronavirus cases]


https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/cambridge-christmas-light-switch-cancelled-22068132

[bots]

Cambridge
No Xmas Lights this year
because of Covid.


[Cambridge Christmas light switch on cancelled amid rising coronavirus cases]


https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/cambridge-christmas-light-switch-cancelled-22068132

the more accurate explanation is that they are not having lights this year because they cant be arsed

[Alf]

Cambridge
No Xmas Lights this year
because of Covid.


[Cambridge Christmas light switch on cancelled amid rising coronavirus cases]


https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/cambridge-christmas-light-switch-cancelled-22068132Bah Humbug!

[Crimson Dynamo]

Cambridge
No Xmas Lights this year
because of Covid.


[Cambridge Christmas light switch on cancelled amid rising coronavirus cases]


https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/local-news/cambridge-christmas-light-switch-cancelled-22068132

But they provide no evidence that outdoor gatherings are a covid risk

this sounds like cost cutting

[arista]

But they provide no evidence that outdoor gatherings are a covid risk

this sounds like cost cutting



Yes Possible.

[arista]

Bah Humbug!


https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1458121467745341440/hiPDZpx3?format=jpg&name=small

[Cherie]

But they provide no evidence that outdoor gatherings are a covid risk

this sounds like cost cutting

Outside event, I agree this is an excuse

[arista]

Coronavirus births: 'My baby's first word was mask'

How Nice

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/EB94/production/_121480306_leanne3.jpg
[Leanne's baby daughter didn't see anyone
but close family until she was nearly one]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-59211183

[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/10/utrecht-cancels-sinterklaas-arrival-extra-covid-rules-limburg

Utrecht cancels Sinterklaas arrival, and also extra covid rules in Limburg

The Sinterklaas arrival party in Utrecht is canceled due to the coronavirus, the municipality of Utrecht announced on Wednesday. The party would have been Sunday. The mayors of the 15 municipalities in Noord- and Midden-Limburg also imposed further restrictions on parties around Carnival on Tuesday, banning many parties around the kick-off to the season.

The organizer of the Sinterklaas arrival party in Utrecht informed the municipality that it no longer wishes to take on the arrival "due to current developments around the coronavirus," the municipality said in a letter. The city said it shares concerns about the increasing infections.

Utrecht "regrets and respects" the organizer's decision. Due to the short time until Sunday, there is no option to provide an alternative. The central arrival of the saint would already have been in an adapted form, without a public reception and a tour through the city.

The municipality of Utrecht called the cancellation a "disappointment for many children, their parents, and the volunteers involved who again this year do not get the chance to receive Sinterklaas during a central entry into our city. A huge disappointment."

According to the municipality, the Sinterklaas arrival parties in various Utrecht neighborhoods on November 13 and 20 have different organizers and will continue.

The mayors in Noord- and Midden-Limburg imposed further restrictions for parties in tents and on squares. These kinds of festivities, which are mainly organized around the kick-off of Carnival season, are for the most part banned. The ban will last until Monday, November 15, the Limburg Noord Security Region announced on Tuesday evening.

In this way, the region wants to do more against the ever-increasing number of coronavirus infections. Earlier, the mayors in this region already decided to ban all large-scale Carnival events such as the 11th of the 11th in Roermond.

The ban now also includes musical parties in tents or on squares where visitors have no fixed seating. Sinterklaas arrival parties may continue with the applicable rules regarding the coronavirus measures and after coordination with the municipalities. The same applies to Sint Maarten celebrations.

The mayors made an urgent appeal to residents and entrepreneurs "to take responsibility to reduce the number of infections together and thus protect each other. Ultimately, this also relieves the pressure on healthcare."

"Stick to the measures in force and above all use your common sense. If you are in the catering industry or village hall, follow the basic advice such as keeping 1.5 meters apart. This reduces the chance of coronavirus transmission, and you protect yourself and others. Have yourself tested in case of symptoms, even if you have been vaccinated, and stay at home."

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

12.713 new cases, 1.380 more than yesterday

1.647 total hospitalisations, 1.320 total on nursing wards, and 327 total on ICU's/ventilators

25 new deaths

177 new patients on the nursing wards

26 new patients on the ICU's/ventilators

[arista]

Wednesday 10/11/21

214 have Died
39,329 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,859


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,023


142,338 Total Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Wednesday 3/11/21

217 have Died
41,299 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
9,538

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,030


140,964 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Wednesday 10/11/21

214 have Died
39,329 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,859


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,023


142,338 Total Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


.

[Zizu]

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All down again ..


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[arista]

All down again ..





Yes good news

[MTVN]

UK now has one of the lowest case rates, death rates and R rate in Europe

4 weeks after Labour and Indy Sage were saying we must implement plan B now to avoid catastrophe

[michael21]

UK now has one of the lowest case rates, death rates and R rate in Europe

4 weeks after Labour and Indy Sage were saying we must implement plan B now to avoid catastrophe

Yes sage gave fake news

[joeysteele]

I still think face masks and some social distancing should be in place.
I agree with anyone who thinks that.

I'm not going to be happy with or be relieved at still over 1000 deaths a week.

Winter isn't here yet either.
It may be a bit premature to think all will be or is well so I won't.

[Zizu]

Yes good news


Although schools have been back now for 10 days ( 8 school days ) so maybe things may start to rise now ?!?

Let’s hope not


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[Beso]

16 degree in the van today...covid still thinks its early autumn and is in its summer hibernation stage still.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The SNP announced yesterday they will need to impose new stricter controls for xmas

:skull:

[arista]

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[Beso]

Massive spikes in german cases today.

[bots]

all the vaccinated countries are on a pretty level playing field now. There may be a slight timeshift as to when infection rates rise and fall, but they will all follow a similar profile. The mask requirements make zero difference as has been shown by wales having a higher infection rate than england. Covid passports don't stop people spreading covid either so we just have to let the infection burn itself out and hope a new nastier strain doesnt appear

[arista]

Massive spikes in German cases today.


Yes




[The rate of coronavirus infections in Germany
has hit record levels.
The country has seen 201.1 new cases per 100,000
residents over the last week;
the previous high was 197.6 in December
last year.
While it's still a lower rate than in
several other European countries,
it has set alarm bells ringing about
what has been called a “pandemic of the unvaccinated”.]


[Germany currently has a caretaker
national government after its election in September.
The parties that are expected to form
the next government plan to bring legislation
to parliament this week that would allow
an “epidemic situation of national scope,”
in place since March 2020,
to expire at the end of the month
but provide a new legal framework
for coronavirus measures.]


https://www.euronews.com/2021/11/08/covid-cases-hit-record-high-in-germany

[Beso]

They are talking about making vaccines mandatory to force the people in the east of the country to take the vaccine.

[Zizu]

They are talking about making vaccines mandatory to force the people in the east of the country to take the vaccine.


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[arista]

Thursday 11/11/21

195 have Died
42,408 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,767

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,008

142,533 total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bots]

Austrians are days away from a first lockdown for anyone not fully vaccinated, after record infections were reported across the country.

Upper Austria province will impose restrictions from Monday if it gets the go-ahead from the federal government. Salzburg faces similar measures.

Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg said a national lockdown for the unvaccinated was "probably inevitable".

Two-thirds of people should not suffer because others were hesitant, he said.

Upper Austria, which borders Germany and the Czech Republic and has a population of 1.5 million, has the country's highest level of infection and the lowest vaccination rate.

Nationally, a record 11,975 Covid-19 infections were recorded in the past 24 hours and Austria's coronavirus commission has warned of a threat that "must be taken seriously".

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Thats an interesting approach .... lockup the unvaccinated

[Crimson Dynamo]

Austrians are days away from a first lockdown for anyone not fully vaccinated, after record infections were reported across the country.

Upper Austria province will impose restrictions from Monday if it gets the go-ahead from the federal government. Salzburg faces similar measures.

Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg said a national lockdown for the unvaccinated was "probably inevitable".

Two-thirds of people should not suffer because others were hesitant, he said.

Upper Austria, which borders Germany and the Czech Republic and has a population of 1.5 million, has the country's highest level of infection and the lowest vaccination rate.

Nationally, a record 11,975 Covid-19 infections were recorded in the past 24 hours and Austria's coronavirus commission has warned of a threat that "must be taken seriously".

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Thats an interesting approach .... lockup the unvaccinated

they are in an absolute mess with covid

an omnishambles

[Zizu]

Thursday 4/11/21

214 have Died
37,269 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
9,311


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,024


141,395 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Last Thursdays for comparison


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[Zizu]

Thursday 11/11/21

195 have Died
42,408 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,767

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,008

142,533 total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Mmmmm..

Slight blip .. most sections slightly down as per trend BUT sadly new infections are around 5,000 higher than last Thursday :(


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[MTVN]

For whatever reason vaccine hesitancy is much higher in German speaking countries than most of Western Europe so things are tougher

Eastern Europe has just been having a very bad time because of their low vaccine uptake but it seems to be stabilising now

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

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[Nicky91]

Netherlands: 3 weeks strict hard lockdown


no audiences at sports and football matches


pubs, bars, restaurants, non-essential shops closing earlier again


theatre productions being either postponed or cancelled

cinema's to close again earlier

[Alf]

Netherlands: 3 weeks strict hard lockdown


no audiences at sports and football matches


pubs, bars, restaurants, non-essential shops closing earlier again


theatre productions being either postponed or cancelled

cinema's to close again earlierAny coverage of protests against this on your national news networks?

[Nicky91]

Any coverage of protests against this on your national news networks?

No, not yet


this is more leaked from the media what'll be announced tonight in the press conference


but already some criticism from theatre producers :rolleyes:


well it is not the government's fault, public themselves are to blame for not being able to think themselves about maybe better to wear masks and distance on your own rather than these lockdowns being necessary :idc:

[Nicky91]

more of a concern is that quite a high amount of people between the age groups 50-65 on the ICU's and in hospital again

in my nation, and in france, and also many new cases, hospitalisation numbers in germany either

and most of which what was jabbed with astrazeneca


hope this is not the case in the UK? since a huge percentage of britain is jabbed with AZ if i remember correctly

[arista]

Netherlands: 3 weeks strict hard lockdown


no audiences at sports and football matches


pubs, bars, restaurants, non-essential shops closing earlier again


theatre productions being either postponed or cancelled

cinema's to close again earlier


Lets hope that slow's Covid Down.
In your small nation

[arista]

CNN HD reported Austria has higher cases than Germany
and will soon go into another Lockdown.
They spoke of the Trouble Germany is in.

You now have to have proof of antibodies
to get into a café in Germany.


Germany's 4th Wave.


South Korean Anti Body test £10
https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-top-doctor-urges-uk-government-to-consider-korean-antibody-tests-11973742

[arista]

Friday 12/11/21

145 have Died.
40,375 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,652

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
999


142,678 UK Total who have died of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

[COVID-19: Boris Johnson issues warning about
coronavirus cases in Europe and
urges Britons to get their booster jab
Austria and the Netherlands are introducing
lockdown rules in the coming days as
cases rise in Europe, with the PM warning
that what happens there usually comes to the UK.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-boris-johnson-issues-warning-about-coronavirus-cases-in-europe-and-urges-britons-to-get-their-booster-jab-12467037

[bots]

my brother got his booster jab a couple of weeks ago .... and then he caught covid :facepalm:

[Zizu]

my brother got his booster jab a couple of weeks ago .... and then he caught covid :facepalm:


That’s not good at all !!


I work with a woman who’s had Covid twice and she feels invincible now

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[Zizu]

Friday 5/11/21

193 have Died
34,029 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
9,160

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,034


Total UK deaths : 141,588


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Last Friday stats for comparison

Most things lower than last Fridays ALTHOUGH new infections are up by 6,000 !!


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[Nicky91]

[COVID-19: Boris Johnson issues warning about
coronavirus cases in Europe and
urges Britons to get their booster jab
Austria and the Netherlands are introducing
lockdown rules in the coming days as
cases rise in Europe, with the PM warning
that what happens there usually comes to the UK.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-boris-johnson-issues-warning-about-coronavirus-cases-in-europe-and-urges-britons-to-get-their-booster-jab-12467037

yes and especially those who are vaxxed with astrazeneca, priority for those people for the boosters otherwise hospitalisation and icu numbers might go up drastically in UK as well

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: 5.4 million people watched the press conference last night

- KNVB dutch FA is going to decide on wether to play without audiences, or postpone all sports and football matches for the next 3 weeks

[Nicky91]

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yes @Alf there was a protest outside of the building where the press conference was being held in The Hague


5 arrests were made by police, and water cannons were deployed to break up the group of protesters

[bots]

one of the reasons europe is suffering more than the uk at the moment is that europe stuck to the standard interval between the 2 jabs whereas the uk extended the interval to 12 weeks, so the protection is more long lasting in the uk than it is in europe.

However, at some point, it will all equalise again. We all go through cycles of infection and we are just on a different sync to the rest of europe

[Nicky91]

NL: new lockdown measures as of today


Immediate short-term measures
Coronavirus access passes remain required for everyone aged 13 and up entering hospitality businesses, cinemas, theaters, concert halls, museums, historical monuments, casinos, event locations, trade fairs, and conferences.
Coronavirus access passes are required for those 18 and up entering indoor sports facilities, sports club canteens, and arts and culture rehearsal facilities, practice halls, and workshops.
Face masks are required at indoor public locations wherever coronavirus passes are not required.
Maintaining 1.5 meters of distance is required wherever coronavirus passes are not required.
Hospitality businesses must close at 8 p.m. nightly. They may not open until 6 a.m. the following day.
Fixed assigned seats are required for all hospitality business customers.
Essential retail locations, like supermarkets, pet stores, and drugstores, must close at 8 p.m. nightly. They may not open until 6 a.m. the following day.
Non-essential shops and businesses which are open to the public must close at 6 p.m. nightly. This includes close contact professions, such as hair stylists. They may not open until 6 a.m. the following day.
Organized events must start after 6 a.m., and end by 6 p.m. nightly, but arts and culture performances are exempted. The exemption covers cinemas, live theaters, and concert venues.
Event attendance is capped at 1,250 people per venue, and all visitors must remain in an assigned seat. This includes arts and culture performances.
Audiences are not allowed to attend sports competitions, including those at the professional level, and those at any amateur level.
Higher education group sizes are capped at 75 people, excluding staff, in any independent space, like a classroom or lecture hall. Midterm exams and final exams are exempt from this rule.
People are strongly advised to enter quarantine if a housemate tests positive for the coronavirus infection. This includes vaccinated and unvaccinated housemates.
Households are strongly advised not to allow more than four guests 12 years of age and over per day.
People should, "Work at home, unless there is really no other option."

Long-term measures under consideration
Allowing businesses required to check coronavirus access passes to only allow those who are vaccinated against Covid-19 or who have recovered from the disease. The businesses can choose to exclude people who have only tested negative for the coronavirus. The 2G system excludes unvaccinated and those who have not been infected. The 3G system includes them.
Expanding the use of coronavirus access passes to include retail locations, zoos, and amusement parks.
Allowing employers to require workers to present a coronavirus access pass.
Businesses opting for the 3G access pass system may be required to provide assigned seating.

https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/12/full-list-dutch-coronavirus-restrictions-starting-november-13

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers (technical errors so not precise numbers)

13.902 new cases (2.364 less than yesterday however the exact total of new cases might be higher but not yet known due to technical errors)

1.755 total hospitalisations (yesterday that total was 1.699)

353 total on ICU, ventilators, increase of 23

33 new deaths

[arista]

Saturday 13/11/21

157 have Died
38,351 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital [NO CHANGE from yesterday]
Latest available
8,652

Patients in
ventilation beds [NO CHANGE from yesterday]
Latest available
999

142,875 Have died in Total.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

Weekends figures always drop substantially


Next Tuesday’s and Wednesday’s even Thursdays will be interesting as the schools will have been back a week ..

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I was a day out .. it was Friday when the infections went up 6,000 on the previous Friday


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[Zizu]

Saturday 6/11/21

155 have Died
30,693 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
9,160

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,034


Total UK Deaths : 141,743

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Last Saturdays for comparison .... just as o feared .. 8,000+ up on last Saturday’s infections..

That week of lower infections was seemingly just down to the schools being off for a week


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Holland totally overreacting

no wonder people are revolting

[arista]

Last Saturdays for comparison .... just as o feared .. 8,000+ up on last Saturday’s infections..

That week of lower infections was seemingly just down to the schools being off for a week



Yes up on 8,000 more catching it
not good
so many do not have masks on.

This all Johnson PM's fault.
He set up the no masks.

[user104658]

That week of lower infections was seemingly just down to the schools being off for a week


Important to remember that that's down to less testing, not fewer cases. It would probably be sensible to leave those weeks out of comparisons tbh.

[arista]

Holland totally overreacting

no wonder people are revolting



Yes but the Infections are going up
less have the vaccine.

They have no other way.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes but the Infections are going up
less have the vaccine.

They have no other way.

panic and fear of blame

nothing else

[bots]

i reckon there is a new strain that is spreading (not delta or delta +) and we are not being told about it

[Zizu]

Important to remember that that's down to less testing, not fewer cases. It would probably be sensible to leave those weeks out of comparisons tbh.


That’s a strong possibility for sure ..


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[arista]

I reckon there is a new strain that is spreading (not delta or delta +) and we are not being told about it

Yes In the EU
for sure.

[Crimson Dynamo]

i reckon there is a new strain that is spreading (not delta or delta +) and we are not being told about it

lol

do you think it would not be used for more control?

[arista]

EU Covid Anger
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/11/13/08/50430649-10197763-image-a-13_1636791636246.jpg
[Hundreds of anti-lockdown protestors clashed
with riot police in The Hague in
the Netherlands on Friday evening
as a raft of new lockdown measures
were announced and due to come
into force from Saturday]

[Clashes erupt as Holland goes BACK into lockdown: Police
spray protesters with water cannon
as shops and restaurants are ordered
to close early - and Covid cases rise across EU
while they FALL in UK]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10197763/Dutch-police-use-WATER-CANNON-people-demonstrators-protest-return-lockdown.html

[bots]

lol

do you think it would not be used for more control?

and it's happening in europe. You are assuming our government has a degree of competence .... silly billy :hee:

[user104658]

and it's happening in europe. You are assuming our government has a degree of competence .... silly billy :hee:


I think more likely the UK was just a plucky pioneer once again, and the rises in Europe are just them now catching up with Delta+.

[bots]

I think more likely the UK was just a plucky pioneer once again, and the rises in Europe are just them now catching up with Delta+.

it could be, i'm just raising the possibility that there is a new variant of concern out there. The new variants tend to appear in the winter. Also, my questioning results from my brother catching covid recently having already had his booster jab. The government are trying to say boosters are the solution, and i'm not convinced that is true

[Cherie]

it could be, i'm just raising the possibility that there is a new variant of concern out there. The new variants tend to appear in the winter. Also, my questioning results from my brother catching covid recently having already had his booster jab. The government are trying to say boosters are the solution, and i'm not convinced that is true

But wont the booster act in the same way as the previous vaccine. ..you can still catch it...just not get it so badly?

How is he btw

[bots]

But wont the booster act in the same way as the previous vaccine. ..you can still catch it...just not get it so badly?

How is he btw

he is pretty unwell at the moment, he is not one to make a fuss about anything so I know it's hit him hard. As you say, you can still catch it, but scientists are saying more and more elderly are needing hospitalisation even after being double jabbed etc .... This would happen with a new variant, it may not all be down to antibody reduction

[Cherie]

he is pretty unwell at the moment, he is not one to make a fuss about anything so I know it's hit him hard. As you say, you can still catch it, but scientists are saying more and more elderly are needing hospitalisation even after being double jabbed etc .... This would happen with a new variant, it may not all be down to antibody reduction

Hope he recovers soon! ..you could be right, its odd that new variants were emerging thick and fast and then just stopped

[Cherie]

14/11/2020 figures from this day last year . We were in lockdown

26,860 Tested today with Covid-19

462 have died

51,766 Total UK deaths

Patients in hospital
14,915

Patients on ventilation
1,355

[arista]

Sunday 14/11/21

63 have died
36,517 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
No Change From Friday

Patients in
ventilation beds
No Change From Friday

142,898 UK Total Covid-19 Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bots]

Austria is placing about 2 million unvaccinated people in lockdown from Monday amid record infection levels and growing pressure on hospitals.

"We are not taking this step lightly but it is necessary," Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg said.

Unvaccinated people will only be able to leave home for a limited number of reasons, like working or buying food.

About 65% of Austria's population is fully vaccinated, one of the lowest rates in western Europe.

Meanwhile the seven-day infection rate is more than 800 cases per 100,000 people, one of the highest in Europe.

Overall, Europe has again become the region most seriously-affected by the pandemic and several countries are introducing restrictions and warning of rising cases.

The unvaccinated were already barred from visiting restaurants, hairdressers and cinemas but will now be told to stay at home.

"In reality we have told one third of the population: you will not leave your apartment anymore apart from for certain reasons," Mr Schallenberg said.

"That is a massive reduction in contacts between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated."

The government says police will carry out spot checks in public spaces to determine their vaccination status.

The new measures - which do not apply to children under 12 or those who have recently recovered from Covid - will initially last for 10 days, Health Minister Wolfgang Mückstein said.

Some critics have questioned whether the move is constitutional. The far-right Freedom Party has said it will create a group of second-class citizens.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59283128
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I think this is going way too far

[Alf]

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[Alf]

Austria is placing about 2 million unvaccinated people in lockdown from Monday amid record infection levels and growing pressure on hospitals.

"We are not taking this step lightly but it is necessary," Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg said.

Unvaccinated people will only be able to leave home for a limited number of reasons, like working or buying food.

About 65% of Austria's population is fully vaccinated, one of the lowest rates in western Europe.

Meanwhile the seven-day infection rate is more than 800 cases per 100,000 people, one of the highest in Europe.

Overall, Europe has again become the region most seriously-affected by the pandemic and several countries are introducing restrictions and warning of rising cases.

The unvaccinated were already barred from visiting restaurants, hairdressers and cinemas but will now be told to stay at home.

"In reality we have told one third of the population: you will not leave your apartment anymore apart from for certain reasons," Mr Schallenberg said.

"That is a massive reduction in contacts between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated."

The government says police will carry out spot checks in public spaces to determine their vaccination status.

The new measures - which do not apply to children under 12 or those who have recently recovered from Covid - will initially last for 10 days, Health Minister Wolfgang Mückstein said.

Some critics have questioned whether the move is constitutional. The far-right Freedom Party has said it will create a group of second-class citizens.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-59283128
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I think this is going way too farLet’s see who backs down first.


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[Zizu]

1459763032968544257



Where do the odds of 98% safe from Covid come from ?


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[Alf]

Where do the odds of 98% safe from Covid come from ?


Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk ProThey've been there since last year during the height of it all, I don't remember exactly where they came from, it was a while ago now, but I'm sure it was from somewhere official, maybe the WHO or CDC. Research around and you might find it. They're probably better odds now.

[Zizu]

They've been there since last year during the height of it all, I don't remember exactly where they came from, it was a while ago now, but I'm sure it was from somewhere official, maybe the WHO or CDC. Research around and you might find it. They're probably better odds now.


Presumably the odds refer to not getting seriously poorly rather than not getting it at all


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[user104658]

Where do the odds of 98% safe from Covid come from ?


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That says 99.8% not 98% but I’m not sure where the figure comes from… ass official Covid stats put the risk at around 2-3% and “best guess” of the true figure (including low symptomatic and mild untested cases) has always been predicted at around 0.8% (I.e. 99.2% safe).

I suppose because of fewer deaths amongst the vaccinated that could now be down as low as 0.2% risk?

Of course that would still make the image wrong because UNVACCINATED people would still have the 0.8% risk.

It’s also entirely dependant on age and health.

Risk for a healthy 20 year old is waaaay lower than 0.2%. Risk for a 70 year old with health issues is easily 10%+ vaccinated or not. So really the stats can’t be applied generally… an individual’s “percentage risk” is going to be unique.

[Zizu]

That says 99.8% not 98% but I’m not sure where the figure comes from… ass official Covid stats put the risk at around 2-3% and “best guess” of the true figure (including low symptomatic and mild untested cases) has always been predicted at around 0.8% (I.e. 99.2% safe).

I suppose because of fewer deaths amongst the vaccinated that could now be down as low as 0.2% risk?

Of course that would still make the image wrong because UNVACCINATED people would still have the 0.8% risk.

It’s also entirely dependant on age and health.

Risk for a healthy 20 year old is waaaay lower than 0.2%. Risk for a 70 year old with health issues is easily 10%+ vaccinated or not. So really the stats can’t be applied generally… an individual’s “percentage risk” is going to be unique.


Interesting


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[arista]

A Vaccine Announcement is
later today.

Co-Chairman of Conservative Party
Oliver Dowden has said this morning.

[bots]

in 10 minutes

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[Cherie]

Is this about boosters for under 50s :oh:

[bots]

no, JVT wouldn't be making that announcement, it will be something along the lines of ... wear a mask ... here are the figures

[arista]

We are Live


SkyNewsHD
BBCnewsHD
Times Radio DAB

[bots]

over 40's now eligible ... bang goes my theory :laugh:

[arista]

16 and 17 year olds
now to get their 2nd dose

[arista]

At Last Questions


On BBCnewsHD only now

[arista]

BBC has now left it.

[arista]

Reports : Free Covid Testing to Scrapped.


It is costing to much.

[Zizu]

Reports : Free Covid Testing to Scrapped.


It is costing to much.


So we will have to pay for PCR testing If we have symptoms ??


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[arista]

So we will have to pay for PCR testing If we have symptoms ??





Yes.

And Yesterday
I posted on the Scam Test Company
that uses your sample
to Sell on, as a DNA.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378783

[Cherie]

over 40's now eligible ... bang goes my theory :laugh:

yeah when June Raine is there it is usually about vaccination

[arista]

1460189694881406983


Bev Turner Anti Vaxxer/Crazy Meds person
Live on Ch5HD AM

a Bit was Edited out of this clip
Ch5 Editor Cut a bit at 9:41AM
It was a Photo of Bev with T-shirt with a Crazy Med on.

[arista]

1460196631333285890



Good on that Caller
Bev has Blood on her Hands

[Zizu]

Yes.

And Yesterday
I posted on the Scam Test Company
that uses your sample
to Sell on, as a DNA.

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378783


Surely charging for PCRs will stop loads of people from getting tested ??

These lateral flow are practically useless ..

We had a student who had four negative lateral flow results but tested positive when he went for a PCR.


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[arista]

Yes Free Testing is Needed.


We need to find out when it stops being Free.

[Cherie]

Yes Free Testing is Needed.


We need to find out when it stops being Free.

Are you sure you got that right, because people wont bother testing if they have to pay for it

it might be the free lateral flow tests they are scrapping?

[arista]

Are you sure you got that right, because people wont bother testing if they have to pay for it

it might be the free lateral flow tests they are scrapping?


Yes it could be that
trying to find out

[Cherie]

As far as I can see it is the lateral flow tests, they just wont be available to the public as they are now but sent to care home and hospitals instead I think

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10199317/Free-Covid-testing-scrapped-Rampdown-plans.html

[bots]

As far as I can see it is the lateral flow tests, they just wont be available to the public as they are now but sent to care home and hospitals instead I think

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10199317/Free-Covid-testing-scrapped-Rampdown-plans.html

if people have to pay for testing in a routine setting, they are just not going to do it, so the government want to supress the numbers testing positive. That's the pretty obvious conclusion to me

[arista]

Johnson now Live

Downing Street.

[arista]

He is using the mess in the EU
as an example, to get more jabs

[arista]

All 3 News Channels
and Radio News Stations


Chris Whitty is now doing the slides

[arista]

If you do not want Waving hands

Avoid BBCnewsHD

[arista]

He is taking Press Questions


Fergus BBC can he avoid an Xmas Lockdown

PM says we hot to not go Plan B, but can not rule it out.

[arista]

That was a Quick 27mins


PM sounds like he has Cold.

[Zizu]

So I got my third ( booster) jab and the flu jab ... one on each arm - 4 hours ago !!

Feel very relieved and just hope I’m not I’ll for the next few days as reported by quite a few people .


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[bots]

So I got my third ( booster) jab and the flu jab ... one on each arm - 4 hours ago !!

Feel very relieved and just hope I’m not I’ll for the next few days as reported by quite a few people .


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good stuff :dance:

[arista]

Monday 15/11/21

47 have Died
39,705 have caught Covid-19

HealthCare

Patients in hospital
Latest available -- Same as Last week.

Patients in ventilation bed - Same as last week

142,945 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

Monday 8/11/21

57 have Died
32,322 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,966

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,026



141,862 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Last Monday’s for comparison


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[arista]

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[Nicky91]

Netherlands: week recap numbers

over the last week there have been 110.000 positive covid tests reported

44% more than the week before


mainly positive tests among children, in the category 10 to 14 years, over 11.000

also category 5-9 years with 9.400 cases




1.498 total hospitalisations compared to 1.210 the week before's total


last 24 hours, 267 new patients in hospital

[arista]

Tuesday 16/11/21

214 Have Died
37,243 Have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,678

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
968

142,945 Total UK Deaths of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Scotland's Leader
wants to extend the Covid Pass.
Due to cases rising.

Next week they make a Decision

STV1HDnews Live

[Vanessa]

Just got my booster. Pfizer one. It's good to be protected

[Zizu]

Just got my booster. Pfizer one. It's good to be protected


Lovely !!!!


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[Zizu]

Tuesday 9/11/21

262 have Died
33,117 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,900

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,025


142,124 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Last Tuesday’s stats for comparison


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[user104658]

Just got my booster. Pfizer one. It's good to be protected

Mine's booked for December.

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/6CC8/production/_121584872_thei-nc.png

[arista]

Wednesday 17/11/21

201 Have Died
38,263 Have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,705

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
938


143,360 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Anger in Northern Ireland

As they have now brought in the Covid Pass

[Zizu]

Wednesday 10/11/21

214 have Died
39,329 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,859


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,023


142,338 Total Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Last Wednesday’s for comparison




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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8Fzm3DWUAE_FRd?format=jpg&name=medium

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEbdqmWWUAY9ryv?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEbdT92X0AYPWI9?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEbVfSFWYAAjO7U?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Thursday 18/11/21

199 have Died
46,807 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,174

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
935

143,559 Total UK deaths of Covid-19


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Germany now Following Austria
in more new restrictions
on the Unvaccinated.

Makes sense as they have a Fourth Wave now.

[Vanessa]

This booster has really run me down.
But today I feel so much better!

[arista]

This booster has really run me down.
But today I feel so much better!


Great news
3 Jabbed Vanessa


Better than our Alf.

[Zizu]

This booster has really run me down.
But today I feel so much better!


I kept my experience of the booster and flu jab to myself .. thankfully I was only poorly for about 12 hours the very next day

Feel absolutely fabulous a couple of days later


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[Vanessa]

I kept my experience of the booster and flu jab to myself .. thankfully I was only poorly for about 12 hours the very next day

Feel absolutely fabulous a couple of days later


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Yes, I feel good today.

[Crimson Dynamo]

BnwBTGDCLVQ

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/123CD/production/_121610747_dailytelegraph-nc.png

[bots]

Austria has become the first country in western Europe to reimpose a full Covid-19 lockdown this autumn to tackle a new wave of infections.

It comes days after some two million people who are not fully vaccinated against Covid-19 were placed under lockdown rules as the country faces a surge in cases.

"We are not taking this step lightly, but unfortunately it is necessary," Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg said at the time.

Currently, unvaccinated people are only be allowed to leave home for limited reasons, such as working or buying food.

These rules will apply to the whole population from Monday.

Austria has recorded more than 15,000 new cases in the last 24 hours, according to the World Health Organization.
Austria's national lockdown will be assessed after 10 days, the chancellor says.

"We don't want a fifth wave," Alexander Schallenberg tells a news conference after meeting the governors of the country's nine provinces at a resort in western Austria.

He is also announcing that Covid vaccinations will become mandatory from 1 February.

-------------------------

Thats crazy

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/11/19/11/article-10220735-50701985-16_964x543.jpg

[arista]

[Austria has become the first country in western Europe to reimpose a full Covid-19 lockdown this autumn to tackle a new wave of infections.
It comes days after some two million people who are not fully vaccinated against Covid-19 were placed under lockdown rules as the country faces a surge in cases.]

Yes it has spread faster
due to the anti vaxers

[Vanessa]

Wow, and I thought things were bad here :shocked:

[MTVN]

Over 30% of Austrians aren't jabbed, trying to force the jab on them is going to be mayhem

[MTVN]

Mainland Europe really feels like another planet sometimes

[user104658]

Over 30% of Austrians aren't jabbed, trying to force the jab on them is going to be mayhem

https://i.imgur.com/PRmvaYj.gif

[Crimson Dynamo]

Numbers down in England, Scotland and Wales - not NI

Scotland has best numbers at mo

1 in 95 i think the radio said

[Cherie]

Child of Delta is here

the evolution of the Delta variant is offering a cautiously optimistic glimpse of how the next few months of the pandemic could unfold for the UK.

AY.4.2, an offshoot of the original Delta strain which now accounts for 15 per cent of new UK cases, appears to produce fewer symptoms in people than its parent.

Scientists at Imperial College London, as part of their ongoing React study into the prevalence of the virus in the UK, found that 66.7 per cent of AY.4.2 cases were symptomatic, compared to 76.4 per cent of its Delta parent, AY.4.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/fewer-people-child-of-delta-variant-symptoms-future-virus-uk-1308828

[arista]

Child of Delta is here

the evolution of the Delta variant is offering a cautiously optimistic glimpse of how the next few months of the pandemic could unfold for the UK.

AY.4.2, an offshoot of the original Delta strain which now accounts for 15 per cent of new UK cases, appears to produce fewer symptoms in people than its parent.

Scientists at Imperial College London, as part of their ongoing React study into the prevalence of the virus in the UK, found that 66.7 per cent of AY.4.2 cases were symptomatic, compared to 76.4 per cent of its Delta parent, AY.4.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/fewer-people-child-of-delta-variant-symptoms-future-virus-uk-1308828



Yes on the Rise

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/18/covid-delta-variant-offshoot-less-likely-to-cause-symptoms

[Cherie]

Yes on the Rise

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/nov/18/covid-delta-variant-offshoot-less-likely-to-cause-symptoms

Its good news?

[arista]

Its good news?

No

[Cherie]

No

yes it is, read the article

he evolution of the Delta variant is offering a cautiously optimistic glimpse of how the next few months of the pandemic could unfold for the UK.

AY.4.2, an offshoot of the original Delta strain which now accounts for 15 per cent of new UK cases, appears to produce fewer symptoms in people than its parent.

[arista]

Friday 19/11/21

157 have Died
44,242 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,079

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
923


143,716 UK Total UK Deaths of Covid-19


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bots]

Child of Delta is here

the evolution of the Delta variant is offering a cautiously optimistic glimpse of how the next few months of the pandemic could unfold for the UK.

AY.4.2, an offshoot of the original Delta strain which now accounts for 15 per cent of new UK cases, appears to produce fewer symptoms in people than its parent.

Scientists at Imperial College London, as part of their ongoing React study into the prevalence of the virus in the UK, found that 66.7 per cent of AY.4.2 cases were symptomatic, compared to 76.4 per cent of its Delta parent, AY.4.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/fewer-people-child-of-delta-variant-symptoms-future-virus-uk-1308828

I told you something had changed :smug:

My brother didn't have any symptoms really, other than feeling like utter crap. So a general, feeling really ill without specifics. That lasted about 2 weeks for him and then his energy levels began to return. So, that sounds like it could be that new variant

[Cherie]

I told you something had changed :smug:

My brother didn't have any symptoms really, other than feeling like utter crap. So a general, feeling really ill without specifics. That lasted about 2 weeks for him and then his energy levels began to return. So, that sounds like it could be that new variant

You did :smug:

[Cherie]

Friday 12/11/21

145 have Died.
40,375 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,652

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
999


142,678 UK Total who have died of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Friday 19/11/21

157 have Died
44,242 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
8,079

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
923


143,716 UK Total UK Deaths of Covid-19


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

.

[user104658]

I told you something had changed :smug:

My brother didn't have any symptoms really, other than feeling like utter crap. So a general, feeling really ill without specifics. That lasted about 2 weeks for him and then his energy levels began to return. So, that sounds like it could be that new variant

There's still a relatively decent chance it'll eventually progress to a very mild cold-like illness like 4 of the other Coronaviruses... the interesting fact remains that we have little idea of what those viruses looked like when they first entered the human population. If a strain develops that has very mild symptoms but spreads easily, it's highly likely to become the dominant strain.

[Zizu]

There's still a relatively decent chance it'll eventually progress to a very mild cold-like illness like 4 of the other Coronaviruses... the interesting fact remains that we have little idea of what those viruses looked like when they first entered the human population. If a strain develops that has very mild symptoms but spreads easily, it's highly likely to become the dominant strain.


It’s a pity they can’t manufacture something like that to do the same ‘job’..


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[user104658]

It’s a pity they can’t manufacture something like that to do the same ‘job’..


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Well, they CAN, but trying to alter and engineer viruses in a lab setting is asking for trouble really. They could end up accidentally making something worse.

[arista]

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[arista]

https://livecenterimagesnorth.azureedge.net/lc-images-2021/lcimg-538834de-bd1e-4107-8b10-cb36cd9d9a9f.jpg?bypass-service-worker&

[arista]

BBC Text :
[Austria's latest coronavirus measures is the lead story
on the front of the FT Weekend.
The country has become the first
on the continent to make
Covid vaccines mandatory,
the paper reports,
as the surge in cases across Europe
forces governments' hands.
Austrians will need to accept a jab from
1 February under government plans,
and a strict lockdown begins on Monday,
the FT reports. Measures have also been
bolstered in Belgium, Germany and Norway,
the paper adds]

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[Nicky91]

Netherlands nearly at Code Black

and then we have to decide who will live with treatments and who we must leave to die

[arista]

Netherlands nearly at Code Black

and then we have to decide who will live with treatments and who we must leave to die

[Two people were shot during an 'orgy of violence'
amid anti-lockdown protests in Rotterdam Friday evening]


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/11/20/14/50745009-0-image-a-1_1637416824515.jpg


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10224163/SAGE-adviser-says-Europe-Covid-lockdown-riots-warning-UK.html

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/11/20/13/50742561-10224163-Pictured_A_scooter_set_on_fire_during_a_protest_ag ainst_the_2G_p-a-43_1637414864509.jpg
[Pictured: A scooter set on fire during a protest
against the 2G policy in Rotterdam, Netherlands]

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/11/20/13/50742905-10224163-AUSTRIA_A_protester_with_a_sign_reading_No_Covid_v accine_joins_t-a-44_1637414864516.jpg

[AUSTRIA: A protester, with a sign
reading 'No Covid vaccine',
joins thousands of people demonstrating
against Austria's new Covid restrictions which
are set to come into force on Monday]


You Trouble Maker

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/11/20/13/50743029-10224163-Saturday_s_demonstration_in_Vienna_pictured_is_the _latest_in_ris-a-45_1637414864518.jpg
[Saturday's demonstration in Vienna
(pictured) is the latest in rising anger
at the re-introduction of restrictions
amid soaring cases on the continent]

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/11/20/13/50744101-10224081-image-a-141_1637414255320.jpg
[Police officers arrest a protester
during a demonstration against new Covid-19 restrictions,
including a lockdown from Monday
and mandatory vaccines from February 1,
announced by the Austria government yesterday]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10224081/Netherlands-anti-lockdown-violence-one-person-SHOT-Rotterdam-orgy-violence.html


Yes Force them to have the Jab

[arista]

1461474856176914439


Bloody 19 to 24 year olds
spreading Covid fast

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://scontent.fgla3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/257939196_4799368630113977_7414997938194066640_n.j pg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=1U44GYyJkEAAX_8IAe7&_nc_ht=scontent.fgla3-1.fna&oh=34a80ab7bc55d12fcbd282d9f3bbdc76&oe=619D7370

You can see from the graph above that Tayside is still the most infected area in
Scotland, but the trend is coming down. Glasgow and the Lothians have been
much lower in recent weeks, but you can see they are definitely going up at the
moment. The overall effect in Scotland is a slow. gradual increase in numbers
(as one would expect going into winter), possibly flattening off however.

[arista]

Saturday 20/11/21

155 have Died
40,941 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital - NOT UPDATED

Patients in
ventilation bed - NOT UPDATED

143,866 UK Total Deaths of Covid-19

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

https://scontent.fgla3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/257939196_4799368630113977_7414997938194066640_n.j pg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_rgb565=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=1U44GYyJkEAAX_8IAe7&_nc_ht=scontent.fgla3-1.fna&oh=34a80ab7bc55d12fcbd282d9f3bbdc76&oe=619D7370

You can see from the graph above that Tayside is still the most infected area in
Scotland, but the trend is coming down. Glasgow and the Lothians have been
much lower in recent weeks, but you can see they are definitely going up at the
moment. The overall effect in Scotland is a slow. gradual increase in numbers
(as one would expect going into winter), possibly flattening off however.


Hopefully things will improve steadily up your way
.

How do your stats look against ours in Manchester ??


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[arista]

Germany now in a State Of Emergency.

Ch4HDnews stated.

[user104658]

How do your stats look against ours in Manchester ??


My in-laws are from Manchester area, we went away for a week (up here in Scotland) with them recently.

My sister in law and her partner aren't vaccinated and don't want to be vaccinated, and most of their friends are apparently the same. None of them brought masks and were surprised they needed them in shops etc. because "hardly anyone" wears them in the town they all live in any more.

Quickly got a pretty clear idea of why things keep flaring up so badly in the North of England to be honest...

[Zizu]

My in-laws are from Manchester area, we went away for a week (up here in Scotland) with them recently.

My sister in law and her partner aren't vaccinated and don't want to be vaccinated, and most of their friends are apparently the same. None of them brought masks and were surprised they needed them in shops etc. because "hardly anyone" wears them in the town they all live in any more.

Quickly got a pretty clear idea of why things keep flaring up so badly in the North of England to be honest...


Nobody wears masks in the Gtr Manchester area ... we are roughly the same rate as ‘England’ currently but on the rise again

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211120/bbfcada49b00b424be935efb79de78d8.jpg

Back in May there were pretty low

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20211120/b3478b00722cbc3d2a3410f709c9b505.jpg


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[arista]

BBC Text:
[Health Secretary Sajid Javid has ordered
a review into racial bias in medical devices
over fears that thousands of ethnic minority patients
died of Covid when they should have survived.
Oximeters, which monitor blood oxygen levels,
are less accurate on people with dark skin,
the paper says research has shown.]
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[Nicky91]

Netherlands: https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/21/riots-erupt-multiple-cities-dozens-arrests

In several places in the Netherlands, police were busy on Saturday evening with young people who had gathered and set off fireworks, causing unrest. Social media posts called for people to join the riots. In some cases, heavy fireworks were thrown at police. Police took 28 people into custody.

An emergency order was issued in The Hague for the Schilderswijk and Transvaal. The riot police were also on site. Due to the riots in Rotterdam on Friday, the police in The Hague were visible with more officers. Small groups of young people who hung out on the street were asked to identify themselves. "We are extra alert," a police spokesperson said. Rioters set an underground container on fire. Police arrested seven people. Five officers were injured during the unrest, one of whom sustained a head injury.

The riot police squad was also deployed in the Roermond neighborhood De Kemp. Rioters threw heavy fireworks at police who were present in large numbers. Police tried to disperse the rioters and chased them through the area. Officers arrested twelve people, for among other offenses, threats, loitering and failing to provide identification.

The police also had to intervene in the Limburg town of Stein after various reports of disturbances. Police arrested one person and did not exclude the possibility of further arrests. Mayor of Stein Marion Leurs-Mordang issued an emergency order until Monday.

In Urk, the Public Prosection Services temporarily permitted preventative frisking after rioters pelted police with heavy fireworks. Law enforcement took eight people into custody for possessing or setting off fireworks.

There were also disturbances around at the football stadiums in Alkmaar during the match between AZ and NEC and during the match between Heracles and Fortuna Sittard in Almere. The game in Almere stopped after people threw fireworks on the field. The competition between AZ and NEC was paused due to the unrest.

There were calls to set off fireworks in Bunschoten and in Eindhoven on social media, particularly Telegram. Police monitored social media messages closely. "We did not want it to get out of hand," a police spokeswoman said. In Amsterdam and Rotterdam, there was an increased police presence. Friday evening, riots had broken out on the Coolsingel in Rotterdam, leading to 51 arrests. At least seven people were injured during the protests, three of them sustained bullet wounds.

https://twitter.com/Kees71234/status/1462325395525615624

https://twitter.com/RedactieD8/status/1462175685225721869

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and https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/20/thousands-turn-canceled-anti-coronavirus-policy-demonstration-amsterdam

Thousands turn up at canceled anti-coronavirus policy demonstration in Amsterdam
On Saturday afternoon, thousands of people gathered at the Dam Square to protest coronavirus measures, despite organizers calling off the event due to safety concerns after riots in Rotterdam Friday evening, AT5 reported.

Demonstrators walked from the Dam Square towards Centraal Station around 2:30 p.m. Crowds already began to form at the Dam Sqaure half an hour earlier. Police and riot police were present. The protest was said to be progressing peacefully.

At the Chasséveld in Breda, hundreds of demonstrators took part walking and dancing in a demonstration against the Cabinet's coronavirus measures. Ten buses of the so-called party express also participated in the demonstration through the city.

Four Breda DJs organized the protest under the name 076AAN after the Cabinet announced new coronavirus measures last week, including bars and restaurants at 8 p.m.

https://nltimes.nl/sites/nltimes.nl/files/styles/news_article_full/public/2021-11/49388071-405D-44EB-B120-EE6578D093B1.jpeg?h=8d6907c1

The media was heavily present at the demonstration after riots erupted on the Coolsingel riots Friday evening. The organizers of the protest said they had been in contact with police. Officers were visible in the city but not directly on the Chasséveld.

Participants carried signs reading, "It's starting to look like China here," "No test = no virus," and "An injection is not sexy."

"We'll make it a party," organizer and DJ Joost Eras said prior. Eras said he was shocked by the violence in Rotterdam but saw no reason to call off the protest. "We are not canceling. We are going to show in Breda that it is possible. We are only bringing love. Anyone who does not accept that can leave," Eras said.

[Nicky91]

Rotterdam's police chief Fred Westerbeke regarding the shots fired

these were just thugs who we shot at, whom had the intention to injure or even kill some of our colleagues

and he also admitted that the police was not prepared for huge riots like these, but more prepared for like 100 people who came to protest, but these protests got hijacked by thugs who have nothing to do with the anti covid policy protests

and he also called for action from the parliament to do something against these protesters, thugs