Coronavirus Outbreak : Plan B

[Mystic Mock]

Personally I can meet the Government half way on this Vaccine ID idea.

I can accept a Vaccine Passport to go into other countries, but in our own country we should be able to go anywhere that we want to without a Vaccine Passport.

[The Slim Reaper]

Just cummings saying that Boris was OK with covid killing off the over 80's. This is where this country is now.


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[arista]

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[arista]

Daily Mirror

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[arista]

Wednesday 21/7/21

73 have Died
44,104 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,658

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
618

128,896 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Wednesday 14/7/21

49 have Died
42,302 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,615

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
522

128,530 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Wednesday 21/7/21

73 have Died
44,104 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,658

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
618

128,896 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[bots]

deaths are up 50% on the week and the opening up figures will not kick in for another month

[arista]

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[arista]

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[bots]

More than 600,000 people using the NHS Covid-19 app in England and Wales were sent self-isolation alerts in the week between 8 and 15 July.

Data shows 618,903 alerts were sent - a 17% rise from the previous week.

There are complaints from businesses that the alerts are causing serious staff shortages and affecting services.

However some fully-vaccinated key workers will be exempt from self-isolating if they are pinged by the app as a close contact of a positive case.

Business secretary Kwasi Kwarteng told the BBC a “very narrow” list of jobs would be released today.

Self-isolation for all fully-vaccinated people pinged by the app as close contacts is due to be scrapped by 16 August.

The app alert is advisory only and not enforceable by law, unlike a phone call from the Test and Trace team.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Cherie]

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:joker:

[michael21]

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Yes shop run out of stuff that why it's best to do all shopping online

[arista]

Thursday 22/7/21

84 have Died
39,906 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,861

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
647


128,980 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Next Friday
Israel adds the UK to their Red List

[Cherie]

Thursday 15/7/21

63 have Died
48,553 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,786

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
545

128,593 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Thursday 22/7/21

84 have Died
39,906 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,861

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
647


128,980 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[michael21]

Thursday 22/7/21

84 have Died
39,906 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,861

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
647


128,980 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

What about jabs Stats

[bots]

the number of infections is dropping pretty rapidly, it was over 50k at the weekend

[Cherie]

the number of infections is dropping pretty rapidly, it was over 50k at the weekend

Schools have finished, they were testing twice weekly

[Vanessa]

Ive done my shopping online. Too hot to go to the supermarket today :laugh:
Also going to the cinema on Tuesday.
It feels like we're getting our lives back.
I think as long as we're sensible we will be ok.

[Vanessa]

the number of infections is dropping pretty rapidly, it was over 50k at the weekend

Yes, hopefully we've reached the peek and cases will fall.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes, hopefully we've reached the peek and cases will fall.

falling nicely in Scotland

[Zizu]

I really hope you’re right fellas ..

I’d rather wait until ten to 14 days after the grand release of Monday 19th July and the F1 weekend where they had nearly 300,000 fans - so Tuesday, Weds , Thurs and Friday (27th July to 30th July )


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[Crimson Dynamo]

I really hope you’re right fellas ..

I’d rather wait until ten to 14 days after the grand release of Monday 19th July and the F1 weekend where they had nearly 300,000 fans - so Tuesday, Weds , Thurs and Friday (27th July to 30th July )


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we know now covid does not spread in open air events

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[bots]

for me its way too much coincidence that the infection rate drops when schools break up. Yes, infections may rise a bit from "freedom day" but i think schools being off more than compensates. This 10-15 days waiting for infections just isn't applicable as the vast majority of people are infected in 3 or 4 days

[arista]

CNN HD USA (online)
reports America now has
80% of Covid Infections
which are the Delta (India) variation

[Vanessa]

Yes, I feel safe outside. That's why I've been going to the seaside.
Bournemouth next time.

[arista]

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[arista]

UK food workers to be exempt from Covid isolation

[Key parts of the food industry will be allowed
to do daily Covid testing from Friday instead
of asking staff to self-isolate.
The government said daily testing would be
implemented at key sites, such as supermarket
depots and food manufacturers.
Close to 10,000 staff at 500 sites in the UK
will eventually be affected.

It comes as supermarket bosses warn
of severe staff shortages after thousands
received alerts to self-isolate.
Supermarkets said the supply of some
products was being affected by the "pingdemic"
keeping staff away from work,
as a record 618,903 people were told
to self-isolate by the NHS Covid app
in England and Wales. ]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-57937342

[arista]

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That did not last long.
Now NZ says Bogg Off You Covid Spreaders of Australia.

[Nicky91]

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most of Netherlands darkred on new eu coronavirus map

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/07/most-of-the-netherlands-turns-dark-red-on-new-eu-coronavirus-map/


The provincies of Noord-Holland, Zuid-Holland, Utrecht, Noord-Brabant, Gelderland and Overijssel have turned dark red on the latest coronavirus risk map published by the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control.

Groningen was switched to dark red in last week’s update, when the rest of the country moved from amber and green to red following the surge in coronavirus infections.

That decision led Germany and France to toughen up their entry rules for people from the Netherlands, but not to any countries refusing to accept Dutch holidaymakers.

However, the red rating does allow EU countries to bring in their own measures to curtail travel, such as introducing extra testing or quarantine requirements.

The ECDC revises its risk ratings every Thursday.

Dutch public health institute RIVM said earlier this week that the number of new infections in the Netherlands appear to be stabilizing, although hospital admissions are going up.

[arista]

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Cornwall asks you to take a Covid test kit
with you, if you are visiting them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Covid was only the 26th leading cause of death in England in June and made up
fewer than 1% of all fatalities, official data shows

Just 0.9 per cent of fatalities in England were down to the virus last month - the
equivalent of 11 per day, figures from the Office for National Statistics revealed
today. For comparison, heart disease - the country's leading killer - claimed
139 lives per day, 12 times more than the coronavirus. Meanwhile, the rate of
coronavirus deaths was so low in Wales they couldn't even work out where
Covid ranked compared to other diseases.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/07/23/12/45802283-9817861-image-a-21_1627040182670.jpg

[arista]

Friday 23/7/21

64 have Died
36,389 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,001

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
699


129,044 Total UK deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Friday 16/7/21

49 have Died
51,870 have caught Covid-19


Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,964

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
551

128,642 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Friday 23/7/21

64 have Died
36,389 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,001

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
699


129,044 Total UK deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


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[Cherie]

Covid was only the 26th leading cause of death in England in June and made up
fewer than 1% of all fatalities, official data shows

Just 0.9 per cent of fatalities in England were down to the virus last month - the
equivalent of 11 per day, figures from the Office for National Statistics revealed
today. For comparison, heart disease - the country's leading killer - claimed
139 lives per day, 12 times more than the coronavirus. Meanwhile, the rate of
coronavirus deaths was so low in Wales they couldn't even work out where
Covid ranked compared to other diseases.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/07/23/12/45802283-9817861-image-a-21_1627040182670.jpg

we cant trust the hospital admissions numbers either as it emerged last week they were not separating those who actually are admitted due to covid and those who are admitted for something else (like having a baby) and test positive for covid after admission, how difficult would it be to give us the actual numbers being admitted with covid

[bots]

the infection rate is most definitely on the way down for now, could it have been the warm sunny weather we have had?

[Zizu]

the infection rate is most definitely on the way down for now, could it have been the warm sunny weather we have had?


Well they did say it thrives in winter conditions so presumably the opposite apples ??

There’s also the fact that all the schools have stopped LFD testing as of last week ...


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[michael21]

the infection rate is most definitely on the way down for now, could it have been the warm sunny weather we have had?

No

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[arista]

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[Zizu]

No


Why do you say that ?


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[MTVN]

Cases now going down because of the Euros being over tbh

No doubt they will start going up again soon with the post freedom day surge

[arista]

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[arista]

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Covid Spreaders

[arista]

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[Zizu]

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Covid Spreaders


Unbelievable :(


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[Scarlett.]

We're currently seeing the trajectory that infections could have taken if they didnt reopen on the 19th. Give it a week or two and we will see the real fallout from the decision.

[arista]

24 July 2021
Because of technical difficulties in processing England deaths data,
today's update is delayed.



https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


SkyNewsHD say
31,795 have caught Covid-19

[arista]

We're currently seeing the trajectory that infections could have taken if they didnt reopen on the 19th. Give it a week or two and we will see the real fallout from the decision.



Yes a couple of weeks for the data.

[Zizu]

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It’s only a couple of days ago ‘they’ were saying coffee helps protect against Covid19 !!

https://news.northwestern.edu/stories/2021/07/coffee-veggies-covid-19/


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[MTVN]

Cases down again :thumbs:

[bots]

Cases down again :thumbs:

and most people test positive in 4-5 days so freedom day figures will be starting to feed in

[arista]

Cases down again :thumbs:


Sure now
lets see in a couple of weeks?

[arista]

Saturday 24/7/21

86 Deaths
31,795 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,001


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
699



129,130 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[arista]

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Ref: That Young Lady
who hanged herself (on the right)
was in Prison after Stealing Expensive Trainers.

I have no Sympathy for her
she Dramatically had to steal Expensive Trainers,
ask for a loan from her parents
would have been better.

[arista]

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[bots]

A California man who mocked Covid-19 vaccines on social media has died after a month-long battle with the virus.

Stephen Harmon, a member of the Hillsong megachurch, had been a vocal opponent of vaccines, making a series of jokes about not having the vaccine.

"Got 99 problems but a vax ain't one," the 34-year-old tweeted to his 7,000 followers in June.

He was treated for pneumonia and Covid-19 in a hospital outside Los Angeles, where he died on Wednesday.

In the days leading up to his death, Mr Harmon documented his fight to stay alive, posting pictures of himself in his hospital bed.

"Please pray y'all, they really want to intubate me and put me on a ventilator," he said.

In his final tweet on Wednesday, Mr Harmon said he had decided to go under intubation.

"Don't know when I'll wake up, please pray," he wrote.

Despite his struggle with the virus, Mr Harmon still said he would reject being jabbed, saying his religious faith would protect him.

Prior to his death, had joked about the pandemic and vaccines, sharing memes saying he trusted the Bible over top US disease expert Dr Anthony Fauci.

Hillsong founder Brian Houston confirmed news of his death in a tweet on Thursday.

"Ben has just passed on to us the devastating news that our beloved friend, Stephen Harmon has passed away from Covid. Heartbreaking," Mr Houston said.

[arista]

[A California man who mocked Covid-19 vaccines
on social media has died after a month-long battle with the virus.

Stephen Harmon, a member of
the Hillsong megachurch, had been a vocal
opponent of vaccines, making a series of jokes
about not having the vaccine.
"Got 99 problems but a vax ain't one," the 34-year-old
tweeted to his 7,000 followers in June.]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/8F12/production/_119562663_1b6fb6a0-ec35-11eb-ab7f-30188212c57d.jpg

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57958358

Yes a lack of Proper understanding
caught him up.


USA has so many new covid deaths
from Unvaccinated Fools.

[arista]

Meanwhile
France has trouble
not liking Macrons direction.


[Clashes in Paris over Covid measures
French officials say more than 160,000 people across
the country have taken part in latest protests
against government moves to curb the spread of Covid-19.

In Paris, anti-riot police fired teargas as clashes broke
out during protests, and made several arrests.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-57956846

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

4.665 new cases 622 less than yesterday, it keeps decreasing again, current average is 36% less than the week before

533 total hospitalisations, increase of 29

134 total ICU/ventilators, increase of 18



104 care homes where there has been a recent infection, one week before that was at 52

[arista]

25 July 2021
Because of technical difficulties in processing
England deaths data, today's update is delayed.



Again Delays
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

One Number only
on both news.

29,173 Caught Covid-19

[Cherie]

Sunday 18/7/21

25 have Died
48,161 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,964

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
551

128,708 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

25 July 2021
Because of technical difficulties in processing
England deaths data, today's update is delayed.



Again Delays
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

One Number only
on both news.

29,173 Caught Covid-19


.

[arista]

You missed Saturdays
on the page before posted late night

[arista]

25/7/21 Sunday

28 have Died
29,173 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,001


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
699


129,158 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[MTVN]

Numbers going down fast!

[Zizu]

Numbers going down fast!


Hospitals in Belfast have called in extra nurses to deal with the "extreme pressure" from increasing numbers of COVID-19 patients as Northern Ireland runs out of hospital beds.

The Belfast Trust, which runs the Northern Irish capital's hospitals, said the Royal Victoria Hospital and the Mater Hospital were both struggling to cope.

In a tweet appeal, it said: "We are under extreme pressure in the RVH & Mater as we care for an increasing number of Covid19+ patients, alongside emergency admissions.

"We are asking for help from our Trust nursing staff to work tonight & overnight & ask those available to work tonight to ring 07825 140 173."


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[Zizu]

Numbers going down fast!



"The data at present is looking good for at least the summer," said Prof Paul Hunter from the University of East Anglia.
"Today's figures do not of course include any impact of last Monday's end of restrictions. It will not be until about next Friday before the data includes the impact of this change."


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[Zizu]

Prof Woolhouse from Edinburgh University said there "may well" be another rise in cases this summer.
"There are at least eight million adults who have had no vaccination at all, plus most children under 18. That is still a lot of material for the virus to work with... and if the change in behaviour is dramatic enough [after 19 July], then we could see cases increase again."


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[MTVN]

With the greatest respect Zizu sometimes it seems like you cherry pick bad news

[arista]

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D. Mail.

[Scarlett.]

It's always slightly confusing when the papers conflate missed diagnoses with restrictions - rather than with hospitals struggling to cope due to skyrocketing cases.

[arista]

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D. Star

[arista]

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Guardian

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The Times

[Zizu]

With the greatest respect Zizu sometimes it seems like you cherry pick bad news


Just reflecting the opposite side of things .. it’s pointless if everyone just posts good viewpoints when it’s clearly not going quite as well as some are making out

I’m not just offering my view on things , I post medical views whenever possible as they’re more trustworthy than the public opinions or the media or government statements imho

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[bots]

The figures are not dramatically out of control, which is basically as good as it gets. Infection rates will fluctuate almost constantly, but as long as the hospitalisation/death rates remain relatively low then lets get keep life as normal as possible. I think we will have plenty to worry about again when autumn comes around

[arista]

It takes 3 weeks to get the Full data
of the 19th of July.

MTVN
you are jumping the gun.

[bots]

It takes 3 weeks to get the Full data
of the 19th of July.

MTVN
you are jumping the gun.

thats bollox Arista. The vast majority of people become infected 3 or 4 days after contact, 10 days is the typical maximum, hence the 10 day isolation period. You are joining in on the scaremongering

[arista]

thats bollox Arista. The vast majority of people become infected 3 or 4 days after contact, 10 days is the typical maximum, hence the 10 day isolation period. You are joining in on the scaremongering


Its not me
it's the GMBHD itv Doctor Hilary


We have not yet reached the Lag.

[Cherie]

Its not me
it's the GMBHD itv Doctor Hilary


We have not yet reached the Lag.

oh Dr Hilary who was out having a lovely time at Wimble sitting in the Royal Box because he is NHS staff... while telling the rest of us to stay at home, he is the biggest doom monger out there

[arista]

Covid-19
is not going any place
it is still spreading.

[arista]

Government Minister For Children
Vicky Ford MP
On all TV news today,

Wants all students to get the Double jabbed.

But so far no Order to make all students
to get the vaccination.

[Nicky91]

even if a compulsory i wouldn't still take the vaccine

[Cherie]

Covid-19
is not going any place
it is still spreading.

we know it's not going anywhere, I think that is the point though, we need to manage it and live with it

[arista]

even if a compulsory i wouldn't still take the vaccine



Yes your a Special case

[AnnieK]

we know it's not going anywhere, I think that is the point though, we need to manage it and live with it

Exactly. We are in a place now with vaccinations where hopefully it will be managed, like winter flu epidemics. We need to live again now and get confidence in opening up.

[user104658]

Exactly. We are in a place now with vaccinations where hopefully it will be managed, like winter flu epidemics. We need to live again now and get confidence in opening up.

Not to be a harbinger but in all honesty, I think we're going to come to the sad realisation that the vaccines aren't quite the panacea we had hoped for. Hopefully they'll keep death numbers down, and ICU numbers manageable, but it's not going to be like the flu. The flu doesn't create this level of pressure on high dependency units. I suppose longer-term, it'll be about increasing HDU/ICU capacity to match, but let's face it at the moment there's neither the funding nor the numbers (we already have a drastic shortage of nurses) for that.

[arista]

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[arista]

The Left Wing Presenter
on LBC
is playing clips of Crazy David Icke
from Saturday Demo.



He is banned from Twitter
why waste our time on him.

[arista]

Labour leader has stated
he will back the PM plan of Covid Passports
but with testing with it.



LBC news

[Zizu]

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The latest rumour circulating in education circles is the proposal for every High School to test each pupil EVERY day for the foreseeable future even though it’s generally accepted that the LFD tests are ridiculously inaccurate.


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[arista]

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[arista]

Dublin


SkyNewsHD All Out Politics
Irish reporter Live
inside a Pub that now has a Covid Passport
from today.

Show you Card
Show Phone
Show your print out.

Vaccinated can dine in doors

Unvaccinated stay outside.





Thats what we need

[arista]

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[Cherie]

Not to be a harbinger but in all honesty, I think we're going to come to the sad realisation that the vaccines aren't quite the panacea we had hoped for. Hopefully they'll keep death numbers down, and ICU numbers manageable, but it's not going to be like the flu. The flu doesn't create this level of pressure on high dependency units. I suppose longer-term, it'll be about increasing HDU/ICU capacity to match, but let's face it at the moment there's neither the funding nor the numbers (we already have a drastic shortage of nurses) for that.

if the number remain how they are now below 100 I think that is the best we can expect especially if cases are around 50K

a report from PHE came out yesterday that alcoholic liver disease related deaths were up by 21% in the last year compared to 2.5% precovid, it will soon take over from heart disease as the main cause of death in the UK

crazy stuff

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/covid-straw-broke-camels-back-214700619.html

[arista]

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OK Left Winger
you not like Mark!

[Nicky91]

Netherlands:

*every dance/music festival has now been cancelled

its about well known festivals such as Lowlands, Down to the Rabbit Hole, Mysteryland


*stricter measures for holidaygoers, every nation within the EU gets a Green or Yellow color code, but travellers must stick to the covid rules of their destination at all times

for the return home, there will be those stricter measures as of August 8th, people older than 12 must either have proof of fully vaccination, or a negative pcr or rapid antigen test, whom are travelling via plane, boat, train, bus must be screened by the one responsible who is travelling them to their destination


anyone testing positive cannot return home until they've gone through the full 10 days self isolation

[Nicky91]

Dublin


SkyNewsHD All Out Politics
Irish reporter Live
inside a Pub that now has a Covid Passport
from today.

Show you Card
Show Phone
Show your print out.

Vaccinated can dine in doors

Unvaccinated stay outside.





Thats what we need

and in Germany ''should germany bring in covid restrictions for unvaccinated people only''

The Delta variant of Covid-19 is fuelling a rise in infections in Germany. Will new restrictions be introduced? And if so, who will they affect?

What’s happening?

As Germany grapples with rising Covid infection rates, a fresh debate has been sparked over possible new curbs – and who they should apply to. But the country is already deeply divided on the issue.

Although German authorities have insisted there are no plans to bring in compulsory vaccinations, we’ve already seen signs that the country will come down harder on people who choose not to get their jabs. Politicians said earlier this month they would not rule out charging unvaccinated people for Covid tests for future.

But the topic moved further at the weekend when Chancellor Angela Merkel’s chief of staff Helge Braun said that if infection rates in Germany become too high, people who have been vaccinated against Covid-19 may be the only ones allowed to enter restaurants, cinemas or stadiums.

”In the event of a high infection rate despite testing, unvaccinated people would have to reduce their contacts,” he said.

“That could also mean that certain things, such as visiting restaurants, cinemas and stadiums, would no longer be possible even for unvaccinated people who have been tested because the residual risk is too high,” he said, adding that this would be permitted by law.

On Monday Germany reported 958 new Covid cases within the last 24 hours, and three deaths. The incidence rate climbed to 14.3 infections per 100,000 people within seven days. It has been steadily rising for the last few weeks from the lowest point of 4.9 cases per 100,000 people on July 6th.

Who’s for it?
As you can imagine, the reaction is mixed. Ordering parts of the population to follow rules is controversial and would be difficult to check. The aim is to encourage people to get vaccinated.

“This is not discrimination against the unvaccinated,” said Interior Minister Horst Seehofer (CSU) in an interview with RTL/ntv.

He said that he respects a person’s decision not to get vaccinated.

“But the person who has not been vaccinated must also realise that we have to protect society as a whole and therefore can only allow those who have been vaccinated to attend major community events,” Seehofer said.

Seehofer, however, spoke out against mandatory vaccines in Germany.

“We have to convince people to get vaccinated,” he said. Seehofer added that being inoculated should not be made a prerequisite for things like employment or for signing an insurance contract. “We must not start that in Germany,” he added.

The president of the World Medical Association, Frank Ulrich Montgomery said he’s in favour of allowing vaccinated people more freedom in everyday life.

There is no reason to continue depriving vaccinated and immune people of their basic rights “just because a few eternal sceptics are opposed to vaccination”, Montgomery told the newspapers of the Funke Mediengruppe.

“Helge Braun is absolutely right. After all, it’s not about privileges for vaccinated people, but about restrictions on fundamental rights.”

Who’s against it?

Conservative candidate chancellor Armin Laschet spoke out against this move. “I don’t think anything of compulsory vaccination and I don’t think anything of indirectly putting pressure on people to get vaccinated,” he told broadcaster ZDF.

The Left Party’s Janine Wissler, also opposed Braun’s proposal. She said threatening people who have not yet been vaccinated with disadvantages is the wrong way to go, especially since there are still is no recommendations for some groups – such as pregnant women and those under 12 – to get vaccinated.

The opposition Free Democrats (FDP) also slammed the idea. FDP’s Wolfgang Kubicki described Braun’s proposal on Sunday as “introducing compulsory vaccination through the back door” and “clearly unconstitutional”.

But medical expert Montgomery hit back: “Only by vaccinating can we all regain our freedoms. The FDP – the supposed party of freedom – should also understand that.”

Will there be new lockdown measures?

Health Minister Jens Spahn recently said he did not expect tough measures to be introduced in Germany for vaccinated people as long as there are no mutations that impact protection from vaccines.

But with rising Covid rates, people in Germany are worried that their lives will be impacted severely again. Germany was in a state of shutdown from November 2020 to May this year.

The German Hotel and Restaurant Association (DEHOGA) called on the government to develop new decision-making criteria for assessing the infection situation.

“Massive restrictions for society as well as for the economy can no longer be justified on the basis of high incidences alone,” chief executive Ingrid Hartges told the Funke Mediengruppe on Monday.

Other factors, such as the vaccination rate, the development of the course of the disease, the hospitalisation rate and the mortality rate, have to be taken into account, she said – ideally nationwide.

The government has signalled that it will take other factors into account when deciding on curbs in future.

Over the weekend, some German regional leaders said they wanted to hold crunch talks on the Covid situation earlier than planned. The meeting is scheduled for the end of August but Chancellor Merkel said last week she was open to holding it earlier.

Anything else on the table?

There is generally no taste in Germany for following other countries, such as France, and bringing compulsory vaccinations for groups of the population – like healthcare workers.

“I don’t think this is the right way to go in Germany, but it’s clear that we have to act,” FDP party leader Christian Lindner said on Monday, referring to the “rising, but not yet threatening” Covid case numbers. Lindner instead called for a continuation of the testing strategy.

“Test-based opening concepts have already proven their worth in the past during the last waves,” the FDP leader stressed. These are “a way for us to keep social life open in the fall as numbers rise.” There must be a “political guarantee” that a new lockdown will be ruled out, Lindner demanded.

He also suggested expanding the use of mobile vaccination teams and reassessing the pandemic.

“The focus on incidence, as we are currently experiencing again in the public debate, has not been convincing for a long time,” he said.


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''A mobile vaccination van near a football stadium in Bremen on Saturday.''


https://www.thelocal.de/20210726/should-germany-bring-in-covid-restrictions-for-unvaccinated-people-only/

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

3.914 new cases, 720 less than yesterday and 43% less than the current average of 5.735

577 total hospitalisations, increase of 44 compared to yesterday

140 total on ICU/ventilator, increase of 6 compared to yesterday (17 new ICU patients)

75 new patients on the nursing wards, that is 4 less new compared to yesterdays figures (71)

1 new death

[arista]

3rd day like this.

26 July 2021
Because of technical difficulties in processing
England deaths data, today's update is delayed.



https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

One number on the news only again
24,950 have caught Covid-19

[Crimson Dynamo]

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OK Left Winger
you not like Mark!

good analogy tho

[Zizu]

People who have recovered from COVID-19 are more likely to score lower on intelligence tests, new research has found.

Scientists tested 81,337 people between January and December last year as part of the Great British Intelligence Test, including almost 13,000 who had been infected with the virus.

Those who had been on ventilators saw the biggest deficit - equivalent to a seven-point drop.

After controlling for factors including age, sex, first language and education level, researchers found those who had contracted COVID saw the greatest underperformance on tasks requiring reasoning, planning and problem-solving compared to those who had not had the virus.

The study said: "These results accord with reports of long-COVID, where 'brain fog', trouble concentrating and difficulty finding the correct words are common."

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[Cherie]

People who have recovered from COVID-19 are more likely to score lower on intelligence tests, new research has found.

Scientists tested 81,337 people between January and December last year as part of the Great British Intelligence Test, including almost 13,000 who had been infected with the virus.

Those who had been on ventilators saw the biggest deficit - equivalent to a seven-point drop.

After controlling for factors including age, sex, first language and education level, researchers found those who had contracted COVID saw the greatest underperformance on tasks requiring reasoning, planning and problem-solving compared to those who had not had the virus.

The study said: "These results accord with reports of long-COVID, where 'brain fog', trouble concentrating and difficulty finding the correct words are common."

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how did they know what they scored pre covid, maybe they were always thick :idc:

[michael21]

3rd day like this.

26 July 2021
Because of technical difficulties in processing
England deaths data, today's update is delayed.



https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

One number on the news only again
24,950 have caught Covid-19



Yes time to fix the numbers

[Crimson Dynamo]

24,950 have caught Covid-19

i thought it was to go to 100,000?

didn't Whitty say this

[user104658]

if the number remain how they are now below 100 I think that is the best we can expect especially if cases are around 50K

a report from PHE came out yesterday that alcoholic liver disease related deaths were up by 21% in the last year compared to 2.5% precovid, it will soon take over from heart disease as the main cause of death in the UK

crazy stuff

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/covid-straw-broke-camels-back-214700619.html

I have two friends* who had to consciously curb their evening drinking during lockdown, and they're not "problem drinkers" ... for people who were already potentially drinking a bit too much, it's pushed them right into dangerous territory.

* To be fair for one of them it's because he's type 1 diabetic and it was sending his bloods off track. The other just realised that 3 beers every night, instead of just a Friday and Saturday, wasn't a sustainable life choice.

[arista]

24,950 have caught Covid-19

i thought it was to go to 100,000?

didn't Whitty say this


In time
it can.

[bots]

the number of infections has halved in just over a week. We have never had that kind of reduction without locking down previously. It's vaccination that has done this

[Crimson Dynamo]

In time
it can.

i think he was saying that it would be BY NOW

[user104658]

the number of infections has halved in just over a week. We have never had that kind of reduction without locking down previously. It's vaccination that has done this

They stopped half of the routine testing so we're not picking up a load of asymptomatic cases, of course infection numbers halved :joker:

[user104658]

i think he was saying that it would be BY NOW

Yes they over-estimated, realistically it peaked at about 60k/day the same as Winter Wave.

Thus far deaths have peaked at 10x less... so I guess that holds true to the stat of vaccines being 90% effective against serious illness.

[arista]

Monday 26/7/21

14 have Died
24,950 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,238

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
715

129,172 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Monday 19/7/21


19 have Died
39,950 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,094


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
573


128,727 Total UK Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Monday 26/7/21

14 have Died
24,950 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,238

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
715

129,172 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

.

[Vanessa]

Looks like we're over this wave. Cases are coming down

[Cherie]

Paul Hunter UEA says the speed of the drop has to be related to vaccination

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Nicky91]

meanwhile in US

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[Nicky91]

US needs to follow Germany's idea, restrictions/face mask compulsory for unvaccinated people only, this can work i think


since vaccinations cannot become compulsory, so you need to look at the next best step to take, protect the unvaccinated by giving them their social distance rules, face mask advice


but also allowing normal life to return for those who are vaccinated

[bots]

it's up to individual states in america what covid rules they want to apply, biden can't enforce anything

[arista]

it's up to individual states in America what covid rules they want to apply, Biden can't enforce anything

Yes and the Delta-Covid
is spreading fast

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[DouglasS]

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Some good news :clap1:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Some good news :clap1:

Even Doctor LOckdown is positive:

'By October, we'll be looking back at pandemic': Professor Neil Ferguson reveals
the 'equation has changed' after Covid cases fell for SIXTH DAY in row - as
experts suggest the Euros could've HELPED immunise thousands who wouldn't
have got vaccine

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9829585/Ministers-plead-calm-Covid-cases-fall-SIX-DAYS-running.html

[Crimson Dynamo]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Will the doomsters who predicted up to 200,000 covid cases a day if restrictions were lifted now give <a href="https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BorisJohnson</a> credit for at last facing down the scientists?</p>&mdash; Andrew Pierce (@toryboypierce) <a href="https://twitter.com/toryboypierce/status/1419962298765033472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[bots]

the infection rate will fluctuate, we need to get used to that, but if it can come down as quickly as it has without restrictions, we are miles further forward than we were at the beginning of the year. We need to remember how many cities remained in near lockdown last summer and they just couldn't reduce the infection rate. Compare that to now

[user104658]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Will the doomsters who predicted up to 200,000 covid cases a day if restrictions were lifted now give <a href="https://twitter.com/BorisJohnson?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@BorisJohnson</a> credit for at last facing down the scientists?</p>&mdash; Andrew Pierce (@toryboypierce) <a href="https://twitter.com/toryboypierce/status/1419962298765033472?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 27, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's not been long enough to see the effect of lifting yet, 200k/day was always an unrealistic number though... people move in the same circles so you can't just project the numbers exponentially... most people, most days, encounter mostly the same people.

[DouglasS]

It's not been long enough to see the effect of lifting yet, 200k/day was always an unrealistic number though... people move in the same circles so you can't just project the numbers exponentially... most people, most days, encounter mostly the same people.

Don’t fully ageee with that, people going clubbing to bars and stadiums etc are encountering loads of people. The rising cases wouldn’t be an issue anyway, not many are dying in proportion to a 65m population, scaremongering has scared people senseless to do nothing al day despite 0.00000001% of the population dying each say.

Opening up has been a good decision by Boris. If a future lockdown happens at least people had opportunity to be free for a bit.

[Vanessa]

We have to learn to live with the virus. I refuse to lock myself in. I'll keep living my life without fear.

[DouglasS]

We have to learn to live with the virus. I refuse to lock myself in. I'll keep living my life without fear.

Good vanessa, it’s the way to live :clap1:

More chance of having a heart attack/dying of cardiac issues than covid, yet no one is thinking about that every single day!

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: tuesdays usual week review

the R number is now below 1 again, at 0.8 (which means 100 infected spread the virus onto 80 others) and (for example at a R number of 1.75 which was last few weeks 100 infected can spread the virus onto 175 others)


number of positive tests has decreased a lot this week compared to last week


last week: 70.000

this week: 37.000






the RIVM expects the next few weeks ICU capacity to rise to 250 covid patients, this expectation is based on the decreasing daily new cases, should the new cases increase again, ICU peak might be higher than 250


the relaxing of travel advice isn't too much of a problem, however the OMT would've liked these relaxings in September so more people had the chance for fully vaccinations

[arista]

Tuesday 27/7/21

131 have Died
23,511 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,918

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
820


129,303 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Zizu]

Things are looking hopeful :)


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[bots]

Things are looking hopeful :)


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:worship:

[Zizu]

Things are looking hopeful :)


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Maybe not so in Tokyo

No wonder the locals are protesting ..

##

Tokyo Olympics: COVID-19 cases in city rise by 149% in a week - but officials resist new calls to suspend Games


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[Zizu]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

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in other words where folk live

[arista]

Thanks For Posting that Screenshot
saves me having to do the numbers Zizu

[user104658]

in other words where folk live

Over 75% of the world's population resides in Asia and Africa. So "not really", unless you just mean the stark contrast between the US and Canada.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Over 75% of the world's population resides in Asia and Africa. So "not really", unless you just mean the stark contrast between the US and Canada.

yes but Africa is exactly as shown, not spread out but in city areas

[Beso]

Things are looking hopeful :)


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Lots of people wont bothering with testing anymore, so the numbers of new cases will be about 4 or 5 times that amount, but you cant hide deaths and hospitalizations..

So even though the johnson variant was let into the country, we must start saying that Johnson's vaccine has worked.

[Vanessa]

Going to the pictures tonight. This cinema still requires to wear a mask. But I don't mind, the ones I get from my workplace are super comfortable.

[arista]

Going to the pictures tonight. This cinema still requires to wear a mask. But I don't mind, the ones I get from my workplace are super comfortable.


Thats fair enough.

[Beso]

Going to the pictures tonight. This cinema still requires to wear a mask. But I don't mind, the ones I get from my workplace are super comfortable.

Make it a horror so you can at least hide behind the waste of time.

[Crimson Dynamo]

rs-TcN1AgXY

[bots]

they could be in for anything that ends up being fatal and catch covid along the way, but the point is its the trends that should be examined not the actual numbers. Serious illness from covid has been reduced incredibly by the vaccine. As much as people want to continue to scaremonger, that cannot be denied

[Zizu]

in other words where folk live


Looks like most countries simply have hotspots whereas England IS the hotspot

:)


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Looks like most countries simply have hotspots whereas England IS the hotspot

:)


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Nope it just recognises the population density in London. You do not understand what it illustrates

[arista]

USA
CDC have stated
everyone in doors must now,
have a Mask on.

Due to the Large,
amount of infected and Dying.

Delta Variant (from India)
has taken over.


Dr Anthony Fauci
Live on CNN HD.

[arista]

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He died on Monday after two weeks in a coma,
as doctors warn of a wave of young, unvaccinated patients.]

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

1420080397287772161


Yes Owen
you have Covid
lets hope it does not take you away from us.

[Zizu]

Nope it just recognises the population density in London. You do not understand what it illustrates


Don’t be so dismissive of people ...

I said it tongue in cheek ( hence the smile ) whilst making the point that a large area of England is effected in comparison to many other countries.



England

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The African countries ( for example have hotspots)

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[Vanessa]

I take the tube all the time and almost everyone is still wearing their masks.
Same for shops and supermarkets.
Cases are going down and I think the public is more than capable of judging things for themselve.

[AnnieK]

Don’t be so dismissive of people ...

I said it tongue in cheek ( hence the smile ) whilst making the point that a large area of England is effected in comparison to many other countries.



England

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210728/a9fb2b4452790c74c9cbb9b36414c037.jpg


The African countries ( for example have hotspots)

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I'd say it looks like the US has had it far worse than us. The whole east coast and central states are red. We have high population densities and so the UK looks bad....but I think that's more due to size and population. Not down playing how bad its has been here though, its been rough :sad:

[Cherie]

I take the tube all the time and almost everyone is still wearing their masks.
Same for shops and supermarkets.
Cases are going down and I think the public is more than capable of judging things for themselve.

:love:

I am here for a daily dose of Vanessa's positivity

[AnnieK]

Good news in Manchester - our cases have been rising in every borough for about 8 weeks but finally we have seen a drop in every one. Bolton, which was the Delta hot spot for a long time is now below the national level which is great news.

https://i2-prod.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article21159790.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Gtr-Manchester-Tuesday-27-July-2021_result.jpg

[Ammi]

Good news in Manchester - our cases have been rising in every borough for about 8 weeks but finally we have seen a drop in every one. Bolton, which was the Delta hot spot for a long time is now below the national level which is great news.

https://i2-prod.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/incoming/article21159790.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_Gtr-Manchester-Tuesday-27-July-2021_result.jpg

…and down by quite a high percentage as well, not just a small drop…just so uplifting to finally feel that up after all of those downs in those areas…

….:love:…

[bots]

i think we should grab the positive news while we can, it's going to be a bumpy road for a while

[Vanessa]

I was in central London last night and it's great to see so many people enjoying themselves.
They were preparing for the Suicide Squad premiere in Leicester Square.

[Zizu]

I'd say it looks like the US has had it far worse than us. The whole east coast and central states are red. We have high population densities and so the UK looks bad....but I think that's more due to size and population. Not down playing how bad its has been here though, its been rough :sad:


Oh yeah I’m not saying we’re the worst by any means but we’re not out of the woods given many other countries have been in great situations but are now struggling again.


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[Zizu]

Good news in Manchester - our cases have been rising in every borough for about 8 weeks but finally we have seen a drop in every one. Bolton, which was the Delta hot spot for a long time is now below the national level which is great news.

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Yeah that’s great news .. it’s been rough around here for what seems forever .

It’s easy for others to be oh so positive when they’re not experiencing the numbers we have had for the last 18 months .


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[bots]

Oh yeah I’m not saying we’re the worst by any means but we’re not out of the woods given many other countries have been in great situations but are now struggling again.


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the australians became complacent and put no priority on vaccination, thats what is causing their current problems. All the countries struggling now put no priority on vaccination

[arista]

[Norway delays end to COVID lockdown for second time
Norway has again delayed ending its COVID lockdown
due to ongoing fears over the Delta variant.
Health minister Bent Hoie confirmed the decision today,
adding a new assessment will be made in mid-August.

The easing of Norway’s final restrictions was
first delayed on July 5, with indoor gatherings limited to
20 people and restaurants limited to table service only.]

SkyNews feed.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7QJA_YXsAA6IpQ?format=jpg&name=small

[Zizu]

Dorset infections up from 169 to 265 per 100,000 since this fateful day ..just a week or so ago

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[Vanessa]

I'm in Bournemouth today.
Even though it's windy the beach full.
But it's big enough to social distance.

[arista]

I'm in Bournemouth today.
Even though it's windy the beach full.
But it's big enough to social distance.




Thats nice
stay safe.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

3.513 new cases, 499 less than yesterday, the decreasing trend is continuing, average of last 7 days is 50% lower than week before

629 total hospitalisations, 13 more than yesterday

164 total ICU/ventilator patients, increase of 5

number of care homes where there has been a recent corona infection does still increase too, now at 125, compared to 73 of a week ago

[Ammi]

Fully vaccinated travellers from EU and US won't have to quarantine on arrival in England from 2 August…



https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-fully-vaccinated-travellers-from-eu-and-us-wont-have-to-quarantine-on-arrival-in-england-from-2-august-12366355

[Cherie]

Wednesday 21/7/21

73 have Died
44,104 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,658

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
618

128,896 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

in prep for todays numbers

[arista]

Wednesday 28/7/21

91 have Died
27,734 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,021

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
848

129,430 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Beso]

Do they show a percentage of unvaccinated/1jabbed/fully jabbed for the hospital admissions, deaths and ventilators?

[Vanessa]

Cases are coming right down. I'm happy.

[DouglasS]

Cases are coming right down. I'm happy.

Yes it’s a good sign, should hopefully means hospitilisations and ventilators drop a in two weeks time, and deaths in three weeks

[arista]

Do they show a percentage of unvaccinated/1jabbed/fully jabbed for the hospital admissions, deaths and ventilators?


No, just 1st and 2nd Jabs
at the top of the link.

[michael21]

No, just 1st and 2nd Jabs
at the top of the link.

It's safe for you to go outside know :cheer2::dance::cheer2::dance:

[arista]

Waitrose Delivery Drivers
that get pinged are allowed a Daily Instant Test.
At the Depot
But supermarket workers are not.


The Iceland CEO stated that's wrong
but does he know the amount of Instant test kits
he would need?


BBC1 London Reports

[Vanessa]

I have rapid tests at home.
The pharmacy is giving them out for free.

[user104658]

I have rapid tests at home.
The pharmacy is giving them out for free.


The lateral flow tests are crap. Marginally better than nothing - if it comes up positive, you probably have Covid - but if it comes up negative it really means nowt, the false-negative rate for them is through the roof.

PCR test is the only way to be close to accurate.

[Beso]

I have rapid tests at home.
The pharmacy is giving them out for free.

I opened one of those multi packs today cause another engineer tested positive for the third time last night..

I tossed it aside complaining to everyone about needing a degree in chemistry to work that **** out.

I went back back minutes later to tell them I meant to say chemistry and woodwork.

[Zizu]

Cases are coming right down. I'm happy.


Higher than yesterday though and it’s stopped that 7 day decrease ..

Deaths up over last week - also hospitalisations and patients needing ventilation far higher than last week - 33% increase over 7 days

Hopefully it’s just a one off


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[Vanessa]

I opened one of those multi packs today cause another engineer tested positive for the third time last night..

I tossed it aside complaining to everyone about needing a degree in chemistry to work that **** out.

I went back back minutes later to tell them I meant to say chemistry and woodwork.
There should be instructions inside.
I managed to do it, eventually :laugh:

[Zizu]

There should be instructions inside.
I managed to do it, eventually :laugh:


Sadly they’re less effective than a coin toss apparently.

A study in Liverpool showed a success rate for LFDs at around 48% .. and that’s if they’re done by trained people ..

Those we do in high schools where the pupils do their own are basically useless as they’re just not careful enough ..

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[Vanessa]

Sadly they’re less effective than a coin toss apparently.

A study in Liverpool showed a success rate for LFDs at around 48% .. and that’s if they’re done by trained people ..

Those we do in high schools where the pupils do their own are basically useless as they’re just not careful enough ..

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210728/86fa72dabb05a43c1e34c6ed9de21c47.jpg



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I tried to be careful not to contaminate. But it's not easy.

[arista]

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[arista]

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BBC text
[An image of the "unlikely" face of a £4.2m jewel raid,
in which diamonds were swapped for worthless pebbles,
gives the Daily Mirror its lead.
The unassuming grey-haired,
spectacle-wearing woman prompts the
paper to declare it a "gran larceny".]

[arista]

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[arista]

From the New York based reporter on GMBHD itv
The Mayor is giving everyone going for a Vaccine
one $100 bill.

That is clever.


1420616570775216129

[Beso]

Mask wearing on the bus this morning is about 40 percent with all seats taken.

[arista]

Mask wearing on the bus this morning is about 40 percent with all seats taken.


I hope they had all windows open.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7cguEKX0AMQwMS?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Beso]

I hope they had all windows open.

They did.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E7ccAaNXMAM9X4n?format=jpg&name=small

[Zizu]

Hopefully this isn’t something else to worry about ..

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/07/26/unvaccinated-snow-leopard-san-diego-zoo-tests-positive-covid/8090011002/


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[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1420736365650644997

[bots]

The number of self-isolation alerts sent by the NHS Covid-19 app in England and Wales has risen to a new record of 689,313 in the week up to 21 July.

The figures represent an increase of over 70,000 compared with the previous week.

[arista]

Thursday 29/7/21

85 have Died.
31,117 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,034


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
853


129,515 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

Thursday 29/7/21

85 have Died.
31,117 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,034


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
853


129,515 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


4,000+ HIGHER than yesterday !!

So what’s happening !?

Second day of rising after 7 days of going DOWN ...


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[Mystic Mock]

4,000+ HIGHER than yesterday !!

So what’s happening !?

Second day of rising after 7 days of going DOWN ...


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Sadly it's gonna keep fluctuating up and down for a little while.

Hopefully soon we'll see even stronger Vaccines out on the market that can deal with the Delta Variant more effectively.

[Zizu]

Sky saying that currently 1 in every 80 uk people HAVE Covid 19 !!

That’s a lot higher than imagined , actually.

I’ve been wondering just how many of our population have had the virus but I guess it’s irrelevant given you can catch or two or maybe 3 times ...

Also how long do these vaccines last for ??

We had our Pfizer jabs in Feb and May and naively thought they’d cover us for 12 months but it’s probably not going to be that long at all ?!?!


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[bots]

Also how long do these vaccines last for ??

We had our Pfizer jabs in Feb and May and naively thought they’d cover us for 12 months but it’s probably not going to be that long at all ?!?!


There is going to be a booster program for over 50's and vulnerable people starting in october. That's been well known for a while

[Scarlett.]

4,000+ HIGHER than yesterday !!

So what’s happening !?

Second day of rising after 7 days of going DOWN ...


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We're likely starting to the the results of "freedom day"

[DouglasS]

We're likely starting to the the results of "freedom day"

Freedom day :dance:

We live for it

[arista]

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[Beso]

There is going to be a booster program for over 50's and vulnerable people starting in october. That's been well known for a while

Is that because they fear the cover the jab provides will diminish over time?

[bots]

israel have already started their booster program, the EU and the USA don't think it's needed, we start ours in October. It's not an exact science

[Cherie]

Why are they saying the app has been changed by stealth when it was announced large venues would more than likely require customers to be double vaccinated from the Autumn, so they are putting this in place to be ready if required, I literally give up with the press

[Vanessa]

Im going to download the NHS app.
So I can get that covid passport.
You never know, i might need it one day.

[Zizu]

Im going to download the NHS app.
So I can get that covid passport.
You never know, i might need it one day.

I got mine a few days ago ... it expires on 24th August 2021 which was a bit of a disappointment..it looks like it will be renewed each month / 28 days :(

It comes in an email / PDF so you can have it on your phone and print it out

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[Zizu]

Just heard the latest Gov.uk information advert on the radio .. it basically says something like “ tens of millions of us are now double vaxed which helps keep us all safe but it still means you can catch Covid 19 and pass it on to others so it’s important that we all continue to be responsible ans wear masks etc when appropriate...”


It does NOT say anything about fully vaccinated people still being open to serious illness , needing ventilation or dying !!

Why not !?!?!?!


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[bots]

Just heard the latest Gov.uk information advert on the radio .. it basically says something like “ tens of millions of us are now double vaxed which helps keep us all safe but it still means you can catch Covid 19 and pass it on to others so it’s important that we all continue to be responsible ans wear masks etc when appropriate...”


It does NOT say anything about fully vaccinated people still being open to serious illness , needing ventilation or dying !!

Why not !?!?!?!


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They have always said that the vaccines are 90% effective in preventing hospitalisation and > 98% in preventing death. No vaccine is ever 100% effective

[Cherie]

I got mine a few days ago ... it expires on 24th August 2021 which was a bit of a disappointment..it looks like it will be renewed each month / 28 days :(

It comes in an email / PDF so you can have it on your phone and print it out

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20210730/52dc43c70f197fd8caaeacdcc1090a8f.jpg

I ordered the paper version as I didn't want the app and sometimes wifi can let you down, so handy to have as a back up, there is no expiry date on it

[Vanessa]

I ordered the paper version as I didn't want the app and sometimes wifi can let you down, so handy to have as a back up, there is no expiry date on it

How do you get the paper version?

[bots]

How do you get the paper version?

you just get it emailed to you, it's a pdf

[Ammi]

How do you get the paper version?

…I think if you follow this, Vanessa….
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/covid-pass/get-your-covid-pass-letter/

[Zizu]

you just get it emailed to you, it's a pdf


Yeah mine was PDF ... still has the expiry date on it though as shown in the screenshot


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[Zizu]

…I think if you follow this, Vanessa….
https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/coronavirus-covid-19/covid-pass/get-your-covid-pass-letter/


That’s the same thing I did


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[Zizu]

I ordered the paper version as I didn't want the app and sometimes wifi can let you down, so handy to have as a back up, there is no expiry date on it


How did you go about it incidentally?


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[bots]

Yeah mine was PDF ... still has the expiry date on it though as shown in the screenshot


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thats why its better on the app

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: Moderna now also for children from the age of 12




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and apparently there has been a study done among either vaccinated people or who have recovered from covid longer time ago, and out of everyone taking part in this study, 93% have antibodies