Coronavirus Outbreak : Plan B

[Cherie]

81% uptake on adults in Ireland which is great

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That’s great

[bots]

i think the numbers are going level out where they are unless more people get vaccinated. Schools going back will be the big test

[Cherie]

i think the numbers are going level out where they are unless more people get vaccinated. Schools going back will be the big test

Scottish schools went back yesterday so we should see numbers from there next week I guess

[bots]

Scottish schools went back yesterday so we should see numbers from there next week I guess

yep, the numbers of infections went down in scotland with the school holidays. The question was whether that was coincidence or directly linked, and i guess we will soon find out

[user104658]

Scottish schools went back yesterday so we should see numbers from there next week I guess


Tomorrow, teachers are back but kids go back Wednesday or Thursday (in the majority of council areas).

[user104658]

The number of detected infections will definitely go up - because they have high school kids taking lateral flow tests twice a week, so they will pick up a load more asymptomatic cases. A large increase in positive tests won’t even necessarily mean an increase in actual cases. It will be seen as such, though. A bit of a mess really.

[arista]

New Zealand has a Covid Case
again.
The Prime Minister is Locking Down the area
she spoke of how it went wrong in Sydney, Australia,
and she does not want that.


CNN HD

[Cherie]

New Zealand has a Covid Case
again.
The Prime Minister is Locking Down the area
she spoke of how it went wrong in Sydney, Australia,
and she does not want that.


CNN HD

how did it get in given they are so strict?

[arista]

how did it get in given they are so strict?


They will find out,
and they are rushing to check it's the Delta Variant

[arista]

[New Zealand has announced a snap lockdown
after a man tested positive for Covid,
the first case in six months.
The case was detected in Auckland,
which will be in lockdown for a week,
while the rest of the country will
be in lockdown for three days.

Authorities say they are working on the
assumption that the new case
was the Delta variant.
Just around 20% of its population has
been fully vaccinated.]

[Coromandel, a coastal town where the
infected person had visited,
will be in lockdown for seven days too.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58241619

[arista]

Tuesday 17/8/21

170 have Died
26,852 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,303

Patients in ventilation beds
Latest available
918


131,149 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Tuesday 10/8/21

146 have Died
23,510 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,909


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
859


130,503 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Tuesday 17/8/21

170 have Died
26,852 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,303

Patients in ventilation beds
Latest available
918


131,149 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[Zizu]

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All sections on the increase ... even before schools return !!

Premier League had most positive tests yesterday since January apparently


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[arista]

All sections on the increase ... even before schools return !!

Premier League had most positive tests yesterday since January apparently





Yes not good
The Highest Deaths since March

170

[arista]

[Covid: Moderna jab approved for 12 to 17s and
summer schools make up for lost time]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-58248706

[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

[New Zealand has announced a snap lockdown
after a man tested positive for Covid,
the first case in six months.
The case was detected in Auckland,
which will be in lockdown for a week,
while the rest of the country will
be in lockdown for three days.

Authorities say they are working on the
assumption that the new case
was the Delta variant.
Just around 20% of its population has
been fully vaccinated.]

[Coromandel, a coastal town where the
infected person had visited,
will be in lockdown for seven days too.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58241619

Just around 20% of its population has
been fully vaccinated.]

why so low?

[Nicky91]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-58253488

WHO flags fake jabs in India, Africa

The World Health Organization (WHO) said it has identified counterfeit versions of India's primary Covid vaccine, Covishield.

The doses were seized by authorities in India and Africa between July and August, a WHO statement said.

It also said the vaccine's maker, Serum Institute of India, confirmed that the doses were fake.

The WHO warned that fake vaccines "pose a serious risk to global public health".

It called for their removal from circulation

There has been no official statement by the Indian government, but local reports said the country's health ministry was investigating the matter.

"Although we have a strong system to prevent such cases, with this development, the only thing we want to ensure is that no Indian received a fake vaccine," an unidentified health official told the Mint news website.

Covishield is the Indian-made version of AstraZeneca's jab and is the most widely used vaccine in India with more than 486 million doses administered so far.

Serum had supplied millions of Covishield vaccines to countries in Asia, Africa and South America - as part of deals that were inked with various governments and the global Covax scheme for poorer countries.

India also sent Covishield doses to some of its neighbours as part of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's "vaccine diplomacy".

But in the wake of a devastating second Covid wave in April and May, the government decided to accelerate the vaccine drive and banned exports.

Serum has since maintained that their priority remains India's own needs - and they may not export again until the end of this year.

India, which is the second worst-affected country in the world, aims to vaccinate all its people by the end of this year.

About 13% of the population has been fully vaccinated since the beginning of the drive in January.

[Cherie]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-58253488

WHO flags fake jabs in India, Africa

The World Health Organization (WHO) said it has identified counterfeit versions of India's primary Covid vaccine, Covishield.

The doses were seized by authorities in India and Africa between July and August, a WHO statement said.

It also said the vaccine's maker, Serum Institute of India, confirmed that the doses were fake.

The WHO warned that fake vaccines "pose a serious risk to global public health".

It called for their removal from circulation

There has been no official statement by the Indian government, but local reports said the country's health ministry was investigating the matter.

"Although we have a strong system to prevent such cases, with this development, the only thing we want to ensure is that no Indian received a fake vaccine," an unidentified health official told the Mint news website.

Covishield is the Indian-made version of AstraZeneca's jab and is the most widely used vaccine in India with more than 486 million doses administered so far.

Serum had supplied millions of Covishield vaccines to countries in Asia, Africa and South America - as part of deals that were inked with various governments and the global Covax scheme for poorer countries.

India also sent Covishield doses to some of its neighbours as part of Prime Minister Narendra Modi's "vaccine diplomacy".

But in the wake of a devastating second Covid wave in April and May, the government decided to accelerate the vaccine drive and banned exports.

Serum has since maintained that their priority remains India's own needs - and they may not export again until the end of this year.

India, which is the second worst-affected country in the world, aims to vaccinate all its people by the end of this year.

About 13% of the population has been fully vaccinated since the beginning of the drive in January.

13%? so low for a country manufacturing the vaccine

[user104658]

13%? so low for a country manufacturing the vaccine

They have a population of 1.4 billion, 18% of the entire global population.

13% is 182 million people - 5x as many people as the UK has vaccinated.

[Cherie]

They have a population of 1.4 billion, 18% of the entire global population.

13% is 182 million people - 5x as many people as the UK has vaccinated.

I get that but they also have 5x the healthcare workers and no issue with supply so....and if they are planning on vaccinating everyone in the next 4 months they have the resources

[user104658]

I get that but they also have 5x the healthcare workers and no issue with supply so....

:think: India is still classed as a third world country, it's not a scaled-up western nation. Outside of major population centres most of the population doesn't have nearby access to full healthcare at all, nor any means of getting to it.

[Cherie]

:think: India is still classed as a third world country, it's not a scaled-up western nation. Outside of major population centres most of the population doesn't have nearby access to full healthcare at all, nor any means of getting to it.

4 months is their target :shrug:

[arista]

[New Zealand has announced a snap lockdown
after a man tested positive for Covid,
the first case in six months.
The case was detected in Auckland,
which will be in lockdown for a week,
while the rest of the country will
be in lockdown for three days.

Authorities say they are working on the
assumption that the new case
was the Delta variant.
Just around 20% of its population has
been fully vaccinated.]

[Coromandel, a coastal town where the
infected person had visited,
will be in lockdown for seven days too.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58241619


Update over 7 have Covid now
and it came from Australia


The PM is angry

[arista]

Just around 20% of its population has
been fully vaccinated.]

why so low?


Slow due to stock
I think

[Zizu]

Update over 7 have Covid now
and it came from Australia


The PM is angry


The outrage at a few creeping in from Australia.... didn’t we fly thousands of infected people back into the UK last year and put them in hotels on instead of leaving them contained on a cruiser ??


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[arista]

The outrage at a few creeping in from Australia.... didn’t we fly thousands of infected people back into the UK last year and put them in hotels on instead of leaving them contained on a cruiser ??




Some months ago she let Australians in
but soon stopped that.


Yes, left on a Cruiser for months with Covid-19 - crazy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Some months ago she let Australians in
but soon stopped that.


Yes, left on a Cruiser for months with Covid-19 - crazy.

how would she like boatloads of illegals to arrive daily with covid i wonder?

[Zizu]

how would she like boatloads of illegals to arrive daily with covid i wonder?


They arrive here on a daily basis , don’t they ??


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[Crimson Dynamo]

They arrive here on a daily basis , don’t they ??


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So far this year we have surpassed 10,000.

The total includes at least 482 people who succeeded in crossing the Dover strait on Wednesday onboard 21 boats – a record for a single day.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/05/charities-criticise-lack-safer-options-10000-migrants-cross-channel

we have no idea if they have covid or criminal records or are radicalized or are just seeking a better life and free healthcare/accomodation.

[Zizu]

So far this year we have surpassed 10,000.

The total includes at least 482 people who succeeded in crossing the Dover strait on Wednesday onboard 21 boats – a record for a single day.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/aug/05/charities-criticise-lack-safer-options-10000-migrants-cross-channel

we have no idea if they have covid or criminal records or are radicalized or are just seeking a better life and free healthcare/accomodation.


I’ve always wondered just how many people there actually are on this tiny little island !!


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[arista]

Wednesday 18/8/21

111 have Died.
33,904 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,321


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
925


131,260 Total UK Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Crimson Dynamo]

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Scottish cases appear to be rising relatively quickly again. There are 2538 cases reported today in Scotland, compared to 49 cases on 18th August 2020.

Deaths and ICU/ hospital cases remain very low and stable.

[Cherie]

Wednesday 11/8/21

104 have Died
29,612 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,912

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
874


130,607 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Wednesday 18/8/21

111 have Died.
33,904 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,321


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
925


131,260 Total UK Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[Zizu]

So everything is around 9 to 10% UP in just 7 days ...


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[bots]

https://scontent.fgla3-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/235344685_4497702196947290_2065612879600039337_n.j pg?_nc_cat=101&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=fwzBZPA1s6AAX9zGtmJ&_nc_ht=scontent.fgla3-1.fna&oh=530e0009fd1188c67f48cd919f3c9cbf&oe=6141C4DC

Scottish cases appear to be rising relatively quickly again. There are 2538 cases reported today in Scotland, compared to 49 cases on 18th August 2020.

Deaths and ICU/ hospital cases remain very low and stable.

bet thats the football, it started in scotland a couple of weeks ago

[Crimson Dynamo]

bet thats the football, it started in scotland a couple of weeks ago


its clubs and pubs

[user104658]

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Scottish cases appear to be rising relatively quickly again. There are 2538 cases reported today in Scotland, compared to 49 cases on 18th August 2020.

Deaths and ICU/ hospital cases remain very low and stable.

We weren't doing hundreds of thousands of lateral flow tests every day in August 2020 :joker:. Meaningless stat.

[Crimson Dynamo]

We weren't doing hundreds of thousands of lateral flow tests every day in August 2020 :joker:. Meaningless stat.

It's not meaningless it illustrates the increase in testing and value of vaccines

[Crimson Dynamo]

Millions drink cola with its secret ingredients same with kfc

Vaccine?

We need more testing

[arista]

Thursday 19-5-21

113 have Died
36,572 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,379


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
909


131,373 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Nicky91]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-australia-58277503

Australia: Sydney extends lockdown, and puts 2 million under curfew

A lockdown of Australia's largest city Sydney has been extended to the end of September as authorities struggle to contain a wave of Delta cases.

The city's five million residents have been under stay-at-home orders since late June.

Infections have more than doubled in the past week. There were 642 new cases on Friday, after 681 on Thursday.

From Monday, two million residents in the city's worst-hit suburbs will live under a daily curfew from 21.00-05.00.

"I apologise to the vast majority of people in those communities who are doing the right thing but for our health and safety moving forward we need to make these difficult decisions," said New South Wales (NSW) Premier Gladys Berejiklian.

Australia set a record on Thursday for its highest daily infections since the pandemic began.

Currently over half of Australia's 25 million people are living in lockdown, amid Delta outbreaks also in Melbourne and Canberra.

Sydney remains the biggest concern. So far, its outbreak has killed 65 people.

The rest of NSW is also in lockdown, but Ms Berejiklian said restrictions outside Sydney would be eased on 28 August.

The harshest rules target Sydneysiders living in 12 particular areas of concern.

Along with the curfew, people in those suburbs - which are among Sydney's poorest and most ethnically diverse - will be limited to just one hour of exercise daily.

The measures were designed to prevent more people "losing loved ones", the premier said.

Critics say the state government could have acted more effectively to tackle the outbreak early on.

Australia has recorded 971 deaths from Covid, fewer than many nations.

But Delta's entry into Australia in early June has challenged a nation initially widely praised for its pandemic response.

Frustration has built over strict border policies and frequent lockdowns.

Residents in Melbourne on Thursday marked their 200th day of lockdown since the pandemic began.

Critics have also accused the federal government of complacency over its slow vaccine rollout.

Prime Minister Scott Morrison's government is under significant pressure, and has scrambled to secure more doses in recent times.

Vaccinations have picked up in recent weeks. More than a quarter of Australians are fully vaccinated.

[arista]

Yes those in Australia
even infecting New Zealanders
with the worse Delta Variation.

They need Strict Lockdowns
to stop it.

I mean, no one can now get into to Australia
so they should halt all covid.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: health minister Hugo de Jonge has threatened with new strict measures if audience at football matches cannot remain seated during the entire game, and if there is singing, cheering again at this weekend

[user104658]

I do think both Aus and NZ have been guilty of over-confidence. That's not to say that they haven't handled it well, they have, but that's what's resulted in the over-confidence... they have relatively small populations and could easily have gotten out way, way ahead in terms of vaccination but they'd done such a good job of keeping it from spreading at all they felt like there was no rush :shrug:.

On the plus side, the physical size of both relative to population should mean it doesn't "boom" like it has in countries with higher population density. They might have issues with large "pockets" in the cities but should be better able to manage those pockets with so much open space between populations.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

667 total hospitalisations down 5

215 total on ICU/ventilators down5

2.250 new cases, down 5.6% compared to last 7 days

6 new deaths

[arista]

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[arista]

Friday 20/8/21

114 Have Died
37,314 Have Caught Covid-19


Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,441

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
928

131,487 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Nicky91]

Netherlands

Risk of contracting coronavirus at GP is same as at a festival, experts say

The coronavirus infection risk is similar at the Grand Prix in Zandvoort as it would be at a festival, experts told NU.nl.

The Grand Prix in Zandvoort will commence in September with camping spots available for attendees. The camping site will be able to accommodate around five thousand people. Half of the spots are reserved for the crew. In total, more than 200 thousand spectators have been anticipated at the races.

“The manner in which you organize the Grand Prix is similar to how you would organize a festival”, field epidemiologist, Amrish Baidjoe said. “When looking at from a standpoint of preventing infection, I do not see a difference.”

The fact that camping at the Grand Prix is permitted but multi-day festivals have been forbidden is not comprehensible to the events sector.

Clinical epidemiologist Frits Rosendaal from the UMC in Leiden also did not see what sets the GP apart from a multi-day festival. “The point stands that the Grand Prix is a multi-day event where a large number of people partake.”

Zandvoort mayor David Moolenburgh said on Friday that camping at the Grand Prix cannot be compared to a festival. At a festival, the vast majority of the public also sleeps on the grounds. This is a relatively small campsite compared to the number of visitors," the mayor said.

The mayor said he comprehends why the decision sparked disbelief in the events sector “but that is a consequence of the choices they make in The Hague.”

In accordance with coronavirus measures, only two thirds of the seats are allowed to be filled and all visitors have to show proof of vaccination, recent recovery from a Covid-19 infection or show a negative coronavirus test to enter.

More spectators are allowed at the Grand Prix than at a festival because during the races there is fixed seating. At festivals, a maximum number of 750 people are allowed.

“For now it is incomprehensible”, Baidjoe said. “We see that certain groups are not yet fully vaccinated. I would say: wait until the vaccination figures are higher.”


https://nltimes.nl/2021/08/21/risk-contracting-coronavirus-gp-festival-experts-say



good, so sue FIA make them bankrupt get rid of formula 1 for good

[bots]

Police in the Australian cities of Melbourne and Sydney have clashed with thousands of people protesting against Covid lockdowns.

In Melbourne, mounted officers used pepper spray when elements of a 4,000-strong rally broke through police lines.

Police arrested 218 people, and at least seven officers were injured.

In Sydney, where lockdown measures have been extended for another month, more than 1,000 officers dispersed protests.

It came as the state of New South Wales (NSW), of which Sydney is the capital, recorded 825 new locally-acquired cases, the highest number for any Australian territory in a 24-hour period.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-58291873

[arista]

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[arista]

Saturday 21/8/21

104 have Died
32,058 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,441

Patients in ventilation beds
Latest available
928


131,591 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths

[arista]

USA CNN HD Live

Chicago: Rev Jesse Jackson, 79 and his wife ,77
both rushed to Hospital Delta Covid-19

[arista]

Tennis World No.3
Stefanos Tsitsipas has pissed off his Greece Government

Aged 23.
He is refusing to have the Jab.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/17/tennis/stefanos-tsitsipas-covid-vaccine-spt-intl/index.html


Cocky Git.


Reported this Pratt has gone online
posting Anti Vax.

[Nicky91]

Tennis World No.3
Stefanos Tsitsipas has pissed off his Greece Government

Aged 23.
He is refusing to have the Jab.

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/08/17/tennis/stefanos-tsitsipas-covid-vaccine-spt-intl/index.html


Cocky Git.


Reported this Pratt has gone online
posting Anti Vax.

so what, it is his own choice

[Nicky91]

that greek government should shove those toxic vaccines up their own arse

[Nicky91]

also the vaccine isn't everything either


https://www.newsweek.com/melissa-joan-hart-shares-she-has-covid-warns-people-do-better-emotional-post-1621249

Actress Melissa Joan Hart said Wednesday she contracted COVID-19 despite being vaccinated against the virus and encouraged people to "do better" as the virus continues to spread throughout the U.S. and around the world.

"I got COVID. I am vaccinated, and I got COVID," Hart said in a video she posted on Facebook and Instagram. "And it's bad."

The Sabrina the Teenage Witch star said the virus is "weighing on my chest" and making it hard for her to breathe. She said she suspects one of her three children also has the virus and is hoping her other children and her husband do not become infected.

"I just really hope my husband and the other ones don't get it, because if someone has to be taken to the hospital, I can't go with them," she said.

Hart wrote in a message accompanying the video that she was "not posting this to be political or gain pity" and wanted only to "share my journey." She said in the video that she was "mad" she and others grew "a little lazy" over time in taking precautions against the virus' spread.

"We tried, and we took precautions and we cut our exposure by a lot," Hart said. "But we got a little lazy, and I think as a country we got lazy."

Hart added she was also frustrated that not all kids are required to wear masks while at school. Though the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) last month reversed an earlier decision about masks and now recommends people wear them indoors regardless of their vaccination status, decisions about mask mandates are decided by local leaders and vary throughout the country.

Hart said she was "so thankful" her youngest child has worn a mask every day. "Now, if he doesn't get it, I can at least tell him he was a superhero to those in his classroom, because he protected his teacher and his classmates from it," she said.

Hart said she was "scared" and "disappointed."

"I just wish I'd done better," she said. "So I'm asking you guys to do better. Protect your families, protect your kids."

Hart added, "It's not over yet. I hoped it was, but it's not. So stay vigilant and stay safe."


Newsweek reached out to Hart for further comment and will update this article with any response.

More than 166 million people in the U.S. had been fully vaccinated against the virus by early August, according to CDC data. Though confirmed breakthrough cases have thus far been uncommon, The New York Times reported earlier this week that such cases appear to be on the rise.

In response to concerns that vaccinated individuals may become less immune over time, federal health officials on Wednesday recommended booster shots for individuals who have already been vaccinated against COVID-19. The additional shots are expected to be offered to vaccinated individuals starting in late September.

[arista]

so what, it is his own choice


But the team demand he has it

[Nicky91]

https://www.vulture.com/2021/08/hilary-duff-says-she-tested-positive-for-covid-19.html

Hilary Duff also tested positive for covid-19, despite vaccination still the worse symptoms of bad headache, no taste or smell, sinus pressure, brain fog

[user104658]

Vaccines never have been and never will be a magic 100% protection from illness, it’s a myth that they are and always has been, but it’s one that has been pushed very successfully for decades to counter anti-vax rhetoric and now people don’t really understand the main purpose of vaccination. And if you try to tell the medical truth about it you’re immediately labelled anti-vac :joker:.

When my eldest was just a babeh, we knew a lady and her infant son who both got measles. He had completed his MMR schedule, she was fully vaccinated, they still both got symptomatic measles. Does that mean that the measles vaccine doesn’t work? No of course not, it’s been a massive part of bringing childhood measles from being a common ailment to almost unheard of. But it highlights the simple truth that there is no such thing as a 100% effective vaccine, and people need to understand that, because when we keep telling people that vaccinated = definitely safe, they believe they’re at zero risk and don’t react appropriately to illness. “What are these red spots I’ve had for days? What do you mean it looks like measles? Can’t be measles, we’re vaccinated!” … while spreading it unchecked for a weekend.

You can still catch something you’re vaccinated against. Herd immunity does not require 100% immune community coverage. Get vaccinated. Vaccines work. But you might still get ill. Those are the facts but people prefer the “they work 100%” rhetoric… especially in the US. They don’t really do nuance in their public messaging.

[arista]

[The arrival of the highly infectious Delta variant
"does raise some big questions" about
New Zealand's pandemic response,
a minister has said.
Covid-19 response minister Chris Hipkins
said the variant "changes the
game considerably"
and makes existing protections
"look less adequate".]

[It comes as the country announced
a further 21 confirmed cases in
the latest outbreak of the virus.
New Zealand had gone six months without
a single Covid infection.]


Bloody Australia buggered up
their Covid free status.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-58297895


[According to Johns Hopkins University data,
there have been 3,016 total confirmed cases
in the country, and 26 reported deaths.
But authorities recently announced a snap
lockdown in certain areas after one man
tested positive in Auckland with the Delta variant.

There are now 72 active cases.
Seven schools in the city have reported positive
cases among students,
and the country has also announced
six infections in the capital, Wellington.]

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

2.499 new cases, 46 more than yesterday, average of last 7 days is at 2.429 (5% more than the week before)

660 total hospitalisations

219 total on ICU's/ventilators

6 new deaths

[arista]

Sunday 22/8/21

49 have died.
32,253 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,441

Patients in ventilation beds
Latest available
928

131,640 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

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[arista]

Monday 23/8/21

40 have died
31,914 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,441

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
928

131,680 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

[The COVID-19 outbreak linked to the
Boardmasters event comes as Cornwall
and the Isles of Scilly recorded the
second highest rate of coronavirus cases
in England in the week to 19 August.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-almost-5-000-coronavirus-cases-may-be-linked-to-boardmasters-music-festival-in-cornwall-12388990

[arista]

CNN HD Live


USA FDA warns against taking Animal Deworming
"Ivermectin" for Covid Prevention / Treatment.

Some Crazy fools
said take it, it works


Loads who took that advice
are ill in Hospital, now.



http://outbreaknewstoday.com/fda-warning-ivermectin-meant-for-animals-are-not-for-human-treatment-for-covid-19-74293/

[arista]

Tuesday 24/8/21

174 have Died
30,838 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,934


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
942



131,854 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Wednesday 25/8/21

149 Have Died
35,857 have caught Covid -19.

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,874

Patients in ventilation beds
Latest available
957

132,003 Total UK deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

USA:

Pentagon mandates COVID-19 vaccine for all U.S. troops
From now

[Zizu]

Wednesday 18/8/21

111 have Died.
33,904 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,321


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
925


131,260 Total UK Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Last Wednesday’s for comparison


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[arista]

Yes Zizu
it has gone up a bit.

[bots]

schools going back in Scotland has bumped it up

[Zizu]

schools going back in Scotland has bumped it up


I was presuming it was did to crowds at football / cricket etc ..

Although that may not last too long .. the positive cases in football are escalating apparently


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[user104658]

schools going back in Scotland has bumped it up


Nope, only been back a week and we know from 18 months of experience that stat changes reflect what happened 2 - 3 weeks previously. This is from general reopening and relaxed social distancing UK wide:

That’s not to say that schools going back won’t affect it. It will. There will be another clear bump from that in about a week or so.

[user104658]

I’ve been hearing rumours that few if any of the deaths of double-vaxxed people are those who had AZ? Also that general protection from severe illness lasts longer with AZ than the others (higher T-cell response). I can’t find much online to link to to back this up though so take with a pinch of salt. I’m just happy to hear things that suggest dirty AZ is better for a change :umm2:.

[bots]

I’ve been hearing rumours that few if any of the deaths of double-vaxxed people are those who had AZ? Also that general protection from severe illness lasts longer with AZ than the others (higher T-cell response). I can’t find much online to link to to back this up though so take with a pinch of salt. I’m just happy to hear things that suggest dirty AZ is better for a change :umm2:.

i heard something along similar lines the other day.

[bots]

Nope, only been back a week and we know from 18 months of experience that stat changes reflect what happened 2 - 3 weeks previously. This is from general reopening and relaxed social distancing UK wide:

That’s not to say that schools going back won’t affect it. It will. There will be another clear bump from that in about a week or so.

Scotland's record number of Covid cases is partly being fuelled by the return of schools after the summer holidays, the deputy first minister has said.

John Swinney said the data showed that high numbers of young people had tested positive in recent days.

And he said the case for secondary pupils continuing to wear facemasks in school was growing "ever stronger".

A total of 5,021 new cases of the virus were reported on Wednesday, a record high for the second day running.

That was up from 4,323 in the previous 24 hours - although the rate of positive results being returned was down from 14.5% to 11%.

Tuesday's figure had led First Minister Nicola Sturgeon to warn that the country was at another "fragile and pivotal moment" in the pandemic.

Ms Sturgeon said she could not rule out the possibility of some Covid restrictions being reintroduced - although the levels of serious illness remain relatively low at this stage.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-58328945

[user104658]

The increased positive tests is largely down to testing, though… they’re making high school kids do lateral flow tests twice a week (followed by a confirming pcr if lateral flow is positive) so basically it will always be the case that more cases are picked up during term time than holidays. Teens aren’t testing twice a week in the holidays. It doesn’t account for any increase in hospital numbers because (despite press scare stories) the vast, vast majority of cases in children and teenagers are mild. There obviously could be a resulting uptick if they catch it and spread to family members - but those won’t show up in a week. They literally went back to classes last Wednesday.

[bots]

its basically attaching an agenda to stats, the number of infections will bounce up and down and unless there is a constant density of testing it really is irrelevant. I believe the ONS data is more consistent in the way it's captured, so it is probably the better reference

[Zizu]

I’ve been hearing rumours that few if any of the deaths of double-vaxxed people are those who had AZ? Also that general protection from severe illness lasts longer with AZ than the others (higher T-cell response). I can’t find much online to link to to back this up though so take with a pinch of salt. I’m just happy to hear things that suggest dirty AZ is better for a change :umm2:.


Well the government have supposedly just bought another 40 million lots of the Pfizer vaccine ..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

I noticed like at least 10-13 people tonite at my auction not wearing a mask as well as the ones who have the medical lanyards. This did not happen last week. The auction staff have also given up mask wearing.

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

I’ve been hearing rumours that few if any of the deaths of double-vaxxed people are those who had AZ? Also that general protection from severe illness lasts longer with AZ than the others (higher T-cell response). I can’t find much online to link to to back this up though so take with a pinch of salt. I’m just happy to hear things that suggest dirty AZ is better for a change :umm2:.

who says that, british scientists to promote their own vaccine :suspect:


AZ is toxic rubbish

[Nicky91]

I noticed like at least 10-13 people tonite at my auction not wearing a mask as well as the ones who have the medical lanyards. This did not happen last week. The auction staff have also given up mask wearing.

:facepalm: refuse those dumb uneducated idiots entry


and those auction staff to be sacked

[AnnieK]

who says that, british scientists to promote their own vaccine :suspect:


AZ is toxic rubbish

AZ is NOT toxic rubbish. It has undoubtedly saved many people from serious illness and death from Covid Nicky. You have made the choice to not be vaccinated but many many people have taken the AZ vaccine and whilst people should respect your decision not to be vaccinated you should accept others who have taken the vaccine and not try to scaremonger by calling it toxic

[Nicky91]

AZ is NOT toxic rubbish. It has undoubtedly saved many people from serious illness and death from Covid Nicky. You have made the choice to not be vaccinated but many many people have taken the AZ vaccine and whilst people should respect your decision not to be vaccinated you should accept others who have taken the vaccine and not try to scaremonger by calling it toxic

my opinion is my opinion


i will continue to ''scaremonger'' as much as i want to

[AnnieK]

my opinion is my opinion


i will continue to ''scaremonger'' as much as i want to


Fair enough Nicky - do what you want

However, I for one will not be reading your posts on it as its misinformation and wrong :shrug:

[Nicky91]

Fair enough Nicky - do what you want

However, I for one will not be reading your posts on it as its misinformation and wrong :shrug:

it is not misinformation though :shrug:


Pfizer also has its imperfections, J & J also has its imperfections yes


none of the vaccines i quite trust that much (but honestly it is more my own lifestyle how i am not a active socializing person at all, i never socialize)

and i don't feel scared unvaccinated, i just know i need to be cautious, careful but i always have been that extra careful, even pre-covid



so ok i apologize for singling out AZ as toxic then


i have respect for the many who already have been vaccinated yes agreed

[user104658]

who says that, british scientists to promote their own vaccine :suspect:


AZ is toxic rubbish

:shrug: it's a balance of things really. It seems there is a slightly higher risk of side effects with AZ compared to Pfizer, but now also that protection from AZ may last longer than Pfizer. Though no data on how much longer.

There have also been studies showing that a "mixed" approach actually has some benefits - one AZ and one Pfizer (or more accurately, one viral-vector vaccine and one mRNA vaccine, the brands don't really matter as much).

[Vanessa]

AZ is NOT toxic rubbish. It has undoubtedly saved many people from serious illness and death from Covid Nicky. You have made the choice to not be vaccinated but many many people have taken the AZ vaccine and whilst people should respect your decision not to be vaccinated you should accept others who have taken the vaccine and not try to scaremonger by calling it toxic

Getting any vaccine is always a risk.
But I'm glad I took it, because it's making me feel safer.

[Zizu]

Getting any vaccine is always a risk.
But I'm glad I took it, because it's making me feel safer.


Two of our close relatives have it now .. both fully vaccinated .. thankfully not poorly at all .. so far


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[Vanessa]

Two of our close relatives have it now .. both fully vaccinated .. thankfully not poorly at all .. so far


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Yes. It will protect you. So even if you get it you shouldn't get seriously ill

[Denver]

100k Astra Zeneca vaccines are expected to be thrown away next month after they expire, couldn't they ship them to a country In need instead of throwing them away

[Vanessa]

100k Astra Zeneca vaccines are expected to be thrown away next month after they expire, couldn't they ship them to a country In need instead of throwing them away

Exactly. They could donate them to poorer countries

[Nicky91]

Exactly. They could donate them to poorer countries

same what we dutch already have done, ship those off to poorer nations (mostly to our ally Suriname and Curacao though)

[Zizu]

Yes. It will protect you. So even if you get it you shouldn't get seriously ill


Let’s hope .. back in work / high school next Thursday with many restrictions lifted plus the pupils will have had nearly 6 weeks of not taking much care as regards Covid so they won’t be too happy about what few rules will be in force ..


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[Zizu]

So we are bombarded with all these Covid stats on a daily basis but does anyone know how many Brits over 18 have actually had Covid or how many haven’t had it ?!


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[Vanessa]

Let’s hope .. back in work / high school next Thursday with many restrictions lifted plus the pupils will have had nearly 6 weeks of not taking much care as regards Covid so they won’t be too happy about what few rules will be in force ..


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We're still all wearing masks at work. I think schools should do the same.

[Zizu]

We're still all wearing masks at work. I think schools should do the same.


Many have reasons not to , many , many more simply chose to ignore the instructions.. . For example- teenage girls hate wearing masks as it messes up the make up they’re NOT allowed to wear ..


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[Vanessa]

Many have reasons not to , many , many more simply chose to ignore the instructions.. . For example- teenage girls hate wearing masks as it messes up the make up they’re NOT allowed to wear ..


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They could wear visors instead? I'm thinking of getting one myself.

[arista]

Thursday 26/8/21

140 Have Died
38,281 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,906

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
974



132,143 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Crimson Dynamo]

Flu this winter is the worry now

[Zizu]

They could wear visors instead? I'm thinking of getting one myself.


Sadly they just get away with it .. it was manageable with a few of them but they soon realised that if loads of them didn’t bother then most staff would turn a blind eye to avoid the hassle


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[Vanessa]

Flu this winter is the worry now

We still wear masks at work. So we should be ok.

[Crimson Dynamo]

https://scontent.fgla3-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/239962933_4519455998105243_7280146762282249292_n.j pg?_nc_cat=105&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=GWGfXhJTG5oAX_JMzjl&_nc_ht=scontent.fgla3-2.fna&oh=82e5651256f6f090077639694c772727&oe=614D26D4

People in ICU are still very stable on 44, with hospital cases overall creeping up to 391.
This figure will increase as the consequence of all these cases emerges. Hopefully, it
wont go too much higher than it did in June, but we are seeing more widespread cases
across the country now.

[arista]

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[arista]

L.Fox in the DM
has stated he will Stop his Kids getting a vaccination.
(What a Trouble Maker)

What about Billie Piper - can she not have a say?


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08/26/22/47147061-0-image-m-19_1630011951025.jpg

[user104658]

L.Fox in the DM
has stated he will Stop his Kids getting a vaccination.
(What a Trouble Maker)

What about Billie Piper - can she not have a say?


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08/26/22/47147061-0-image-m-19_1630011951025.jpg

Yes and unless he has full custody - which seems unlikely - it's not just "a say" he literally cannot stop her from having them vaccinated if that's what she wants to do. His permission is not required. That's the case even in couples who are still together - one parent can give medical consent, they don't even have to tell the other parent, although of course it will be on medical records that either can get access to.

[arista]

[Laurence Fox drags his kids into anti-vaxx row: Actor
says he'll BAN his and Billie Piper's boys from
school because he fears they'll have Covid jab
without his permission
Laurence Fox would remove his boys
from school over opposition to Covid jab
The actor, 43, shares his two sons with his
former wife, actress Billie Piper, 38
He will home educate them rather
than let them be vaccinated without consent
Comes after reports NHS had drawn
up plans to start vaccinating 12-year-olds]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9930787/Laurence-Fox-drags-kids-anti-vaxx-row-Actor-says-hell-ban-boys-school-Covid-jab.html


So he's going to Stop them going to School
OK TS

[user104658]

[Laurence Fox drags his kids into anti-vaxx row: Actor
says he'll BAN his and Billie Piper's boys from
school because he fears they'll have Covid jab
without his permission
Laurence Fox would remove his boys
from school over opposition to Covid jab
The actor, 43, shares his two sons with his
former wife, actress Billie Piper, 38
He will home educate them rather
than let them be vaccinated without consent
Comes after reports NHS had drawn
up plans to start vaccinating 12-year-olds]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9930787/Laurence-Fox-drags-kids-anti-vaxx-row-Actor-says-hell-ban-boys-school-Covid-jab.html


So he's going to Stop them going to School

Utter nonsense, they're not going to start vaccinating kids without a consent form :facepalm:. He knows that fine well, just attention-seeking as always.

[arista]

Utter nonsense, they're not going to start vaccinating kids without a consent form :facepalm:. He knows that fine well, just attention-seeking as always.


I hope his kids get the Vaccination
to Piss him OFF

[AnnieK]

Utter nonsense, they're not going to start vaccinating kids without a consent form :facepalm:. He knows that fine well, just attention-seeking as always.

Was just going to say this - my son's school won't do anything without a consent form - if kids need medication during the day parent's have to go in to administer it (unless it something like an inhaler). The only thing they will do if they need any kind of medical treatment is give them a wet paper towel - the number of bump notes my son used to come home with when he was younger with the treatment "cold paper towel administered" was stupid. :laugh:

[Cherie]

Was just going to say this - my son's school won't do anything without a consent form - if kids need medication during the day parent's have to go in to administer it (unless it something like an inhaler). The only thing they will do if they need any kind of medical treatment is give them a wet paper towel - the number of bump notes my son used to come home with when he was younger with the treatment "cold paper towel administered" was stupid. :laugh:

Bet it wasn’t even cold :laugh:

[Cherie]

I had no idea he was married to Billy Piper

[user104658]

I had no idea he was married to Billy Piper

Divorced since 2016, but yeah I didn't know either. Lozza Fox immediately following on from Chris Evans? Does she have some sort of fetish?

[arista]

I had no idea he was married to Billy Piper


Very much in Love
He was a top actor
like her

[arista]

Divorced since 2016, but yeah I didn't know either. Lozza Fox immediately following on from Chris Evans? Does she have some sort of fetish?

No

[Crimson Dynamo]

Was just going to say this - my son's school won't do anything without a consent form - if kids need medication during the day parent's have to go in to administer it (unless it something like an inhaler). The only thing they will do if they need any kind of medical treatment is give them a wet paper towel - the number of bump notes my son used to come home with when he was younger with the treatment "cold paper towel administered" was stupid. :laugh:

literally this

[arista]

[COVID-19: Scotland records highest-ever daily
coronavirus cases
- but no circuit breaker lockdown planned]

[Sturgeon said schools going back has
increased interactions and
said she could not rule "anything"
out when it comes to re-imposing rules
during the pandemic.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...anned-12392058

sort it out Up There

[bots]

[COVID-19: Scotland records highest-ever daily
coronavirus cases
- but no circuit breaker lockdown planned]

[Sturgeon said schools going back has
increased interactions and
said she could not rule "anything"
out when it comes to re-imposing rules
during the pandemic.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...anned-12392058

sort it out Up There

you really think it will be better in england when the schools go back next week?

[user104658]

[COVID-19: Scotland records highest-ever daily
coronavirus cases
- but no circuit breaker lockdown planned]

[Sturgeon said schools going back has
increased interactions and
said she could not rule "anything"
out when it comes to re-imposing rules
during the pandemic.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-...anned-12392058

sort it out Up There

The same pattern will follow in England. This has been the pattern with literally every spike.

[arista]

The same pattern will follow in England. This has been the pattern with literally every spike.


Yes it will.

[arista]

Friday 27/8/21

100 have Died
38,046 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,942

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
982


132,243 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

The same pattern will follow in England. This has been the pattern with literally every spike.

compulsory mask wearing so its not obviously helping matters

[Cherie]

Friday 20/8/21

114 Have Died
37,314 Have Caught Covid-19


Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,441

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
928

131,487 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Friday 27/8/21

100 have Died
38,046 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,942

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
982


132,243 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

.

[arista]

compulsory mask wearing so its not obviously helping matters


Yes so many do not bother in London, now

[Cherie]

Yes so many do not bother in London, now

Getting less and less in supermarkets as well ...

[arista]

Getting less and less in supermarkets as well ...


Does not help us

[user104658]

compulsory mask wearing so its not obviously helping matters

It's been dubious that masks do much at all (the basic unfitted kind) since we found out that Covid is actually airborne. They probably bring cases down a little so no harm in wearing them, but I don't think there'd be a huge overall difference in the numbers we're at now (overall deaths, overall cases since the start, etc.) if we'd never worn them. Again though... even if it's a 2% difference that's still a prevention of over 2000 deaths.

[Nicky91]

i feel ashamed we got stupid moron Rutte as leader, whom himself also is pretty much against wearing of face masks :facepalm:


wish we were like germany, i do watch their news, and what i see is many continuing to wear masks, the right kind of masks that is FFP2 (also those what me, my parents have)

[arista]

Saturday 28/8/9

133 Have Died.
32,406 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,942

Patients in ventilation beds
Latest available
982

132,376 Total UK Covid Deaths

[MTVN]

England cases actually going down now

[arista]

England cases actually going down now


Until they go back to School

[MTVN]

Then they will go up for a bit, then reach a peak and start going down again

It's all a rocky road but nothing to worry about

[arista]

Then they will go up for a bit, then reach a peak and start going down again

It's all a rocky road but nothing to worry about


Easy for you to say that.


Poxy China Covid
Killing the Poor off first
in the World.

Not letting the Real way it came into the World
ever get in the press.

[arista]

serious supply chain issues
across the UK was delaying the production of vials.]


https://news.sky.com/story/nhs-urges-doctors-to-halt-some-blood-testing-as-uk-is-hit-by-vial-shortage-12390930

[arista]

Dr. Fauci is projecting grim news in USA/UK CNN HD now
he wants more Local Mandatory Vaccine.

So many refusing a Vaccine
USA is split.

[arista]

Sunday 29/8/21

61 have died
33,196 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,942

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
982


132,437 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

Sunday 29/8/21

61 have died
33,196 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,942

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
982


132,437 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


Those seem rather high for a flamin Sunday which are always low ..


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[Cherie]

Sunday 22/8/21

49 have died.
32,253 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,441

Patients in ventilation beds
Latest available
928

131,640 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Sunday 29/8/21

61 have died
33,196 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,942

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
982


132,437 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

.

[Zizu]

In the coming weeks we will see a substantial rise in infections due to the two delay .. packed footie stadiums and loads of concerts / festival as of a week or so ago .


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

[First Minister Nicola Sturgeon is self-isolating]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-58361884

[arista]

[Anti-vaxxer musician who appeared
in ITV's Bad Lads' Army dies from Covid
in hospital aged 40,
leaving a pregnant wife behind
and after saying he couldn't get ill
because he exercised five times a week]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/08/29/18/47252645-9937949-image-a-21_1630259852495.jpg
[Father-to-be Marcus Birks, 40,
has died from Covid in hospital after
admitting that he regretted
'putting off' his Covid vaccination]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9937949/Anti-vaxxer-musician-dies-Covid-hospital-aged-40.html

[arista]

Simon Calder On TRTworldHD
said it to expensive for Turks to arrive in England
So many tests and a Hotel bill for a week $400
Turkey on the Red list.

They spoke of Australia being far worse

[arista]

Bank Holiday Monday 30/1/21

(Note : No data from Wales in today numbers)

48 Have died
26,476 Have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,942

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
982


132,485 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[MTVN]

Cases in England down for the 7th day in a row

[arista]

Tuesday 31/8/21

50 have died
32,181 Have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,015

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
988

132,535 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Crimson Dynamo]

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great news about seaside town business

[Vanessa]

I love the British seaside. I'm going to Southend tomorrow.
Bought a wetsuit, because the water is always cold :joker:

[user104658]

Cases in England down for the 7th day in a row


De ja vu; we had falling cases in Scotland for weeks and then they started spiking again. England is on that downhill slope now but will spike in the next few weeks.

[AnnieK]

Wednesday 31/8/21

50 have died
32,181 Have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,015

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
988

132,535 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

It's Tuesday Arista.....not Wednesday

[Beso]

I love the British seaside. I'm going to Southend tomorrow.
Bought a wetsuit, because the water is always cold :joker:

Bring trainers as well, its one of those stoney beaches.

[Vanessa]

Bring trainers as well, its one of those stoney beaches.

I've got my sandals. :laugh:

[arista]

It's Tuesday Arista.....not Wednesday


Thanks corrected

[MTVN]

De ja vu; we had falling cases in Scotland for weeks and then they started spiking again. England is on that downhill slope now but will spike in the next few weeks.

Probably but our journey has been a bit more bumpy than Scotland where it just seemed to go down pretty fast and then shoot up again - our cases got pretty high in mid-July, then they went down again, then they went up again as the effects of full unlocking kicked in, and now they've started going down back again (or at least basically plateauing). I think things being open here longer than Scotland actually seems to have helped matters as it took place just as schools broke up in the peak of summer whereas Scotland lifted restrictions near to the same time that schools went back causing a double whammy of increased cases

England certainly will go up again when the schools go back next week but so far our reopening this summer has been pretty successful I think

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[Zizu]

I think I heard on the radio that 16.7 million people has been for one jab but had not gone ahead with the second jab !?

Sure it those figures can’t be correct ?!?


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[arista]

I think I heard on the radio that 16.7 million people has been fir one jab but had not gone ahead with the second jab !?

Sure it those figures can’t be correct ?!?





If that's true
that should be Front Page.

[Zizu]

If that's true
that should be Front Page.


Yeah I’m sure the numbers must be wrong .. the story was definitely about the massive number of adults who had had their first jab but held off from getting the second .

I would expect some not getting ANY but getting just ONE seems peculiar


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[Vanessa]

My family is finally getting vaccinated. Yay :cheer2:

[user104658]

I think I heard on the radio that 16.7 million people has been for one jab but had not gone ahead with the second jab !?

Sure it those figures can’t be correct ?!?


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Definitely not true if it's supposedly about UK figures. Most recent I can see are that 48 million have had first dose and 42 million have had both doses, which means there are currently 6 million who have had one dose but not the second, and the majority of those will be people who simply aren't due the 2nd dose yet. They're currently doing far more 2nd doses than 1st doses so that "gap" is closing every day.

There will inevitably be some people who get one but not the second... that's unavoidable. There will be people who got the first but then simply didn't bother with the 2nd, yes, but also (being blunt) there will be elderly people who got one dose and were dead before getting a 2nd one. Not necessarily because of Covid-reasons, just because... well... elderly people do still die.

[Vanessa]

We have to get on with our lives.
All we can do is try and be sensible.

[arista]

Wednesday 1/9/21

207 have Died
35,693 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,598


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,014

132,742 Total UK deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Wednesday 1/9/21

207 have Died
35,693 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,598


Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,014

132,742 Total UK deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Vanessa]

We definitely need those boosters soon.

[AnnieK]

I assume there has been a lag in reporting due to the bank holiday...or are death's creeping up faster now?

[Vanessa]

I assume there has been a lag in reporting due to the bank holiday...or are death's creeping up faster now?

Yes, probably a Bank Holiday back log.

[user104658]

I assume there has been a lag in reporting due to the bank holiday...or are death's creeping up faster now?

Probably bit of both.

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There one thing planing it and another doing it

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[Crimson Dynamo]

I thought id share this. This chap makes good Fantasy Football vids. On Mondays one he said he was feeling a bit sneezy and his throat hurt then he posted these.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hi everyone.<br><br>Sorry I have been quiet on here/YouTube. Unfortunately earlier in the week I tested positive for COVID-19.<br><br>This has meant I have been too unwell to make videos, but also has meant that we have had to cancel our wedding on Friday, which has been hugely traumatic.</p>&mdash; FPL Mate (Dan) (@FPLMate) <a href="https://twitter.com/FPLMate/status/1433381776269926404?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I can’t remember the last time I have felt this low, having spent a year planning and paying for the dream wedding with the love of my life, for it all to go down the drain.<br><br>All because of a virus I thought I was doing enough to avoid. I am utterly heartbroken right now.</p>&mdash; FPL Mate (Dan) (@FPLMate) <a href="https://twitter.com/FPLMate/status/1433381779403063297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 2, 2021</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Zizu]

I thought id share this. This chap makes good Fantasy Football vids. On Mondays one he said he was feeling a bit sneezy and his throat hurt then he posted these.

&lt;blockquote class="twitter-tweet"&gt;&lt;p lang="en" dir="ltr"&gt;Hi everyone.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sorry I have been quiet on here/YouTube. Unfortunately earlier in the week I tested positive for COVID-19.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This has meant I have been too unwell to make videos, but also has meant that we have had to cancel our wedding on Friday, which has been hugely traumatic.&lt;/p&gt;— FPL Mate (Dan) (@FPLMate) &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/FPLMate/status/1433381776269926404?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"&gt;September 2, 2021&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;
&lt;blockquote class="twitter-tweet"&gt;&lt;p lang="en" dir="ltr"&gt;I can’t remember the last time I have felt this low, having spent a year planning and paying for the dream wedding with the love of my life, for it all to go down the drain.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;All because of a virus I thought I was doing enough to avoid. I am utterly heartbroken right now.&lt;/p&gt;— FPL Mate (Dan) (@FPLMate) &lt;a href="https://twitter.com/FPLMate/status/1433381779403063297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw"&gt;September 2, 2021&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt; &lt;script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"&gt;&lt;/script&gt;


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Nothing showing mate ..


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i can see it ok?

[Zizu]

Well just had a pretty stressy day today ..

Back to work ( High School) well over 1300 pupils and 150 staff ... not one person wearing a mask ... not in classrooms nor corridors etc .

I initially went in with mine on and there was one teacher who had hers on but within 10
minutes we both took them off .

Cant speak for her but I felt uncomfortable wearing it when nobody else was .

Still seems crazy with there being over 30,000 new infections and around 200
deaths each day ... and this variant being more easily caught .

I called in Pets At Home a few minutes ago and not one customer or member of staff wore a mask !


Sky Sports just showed this guy ..
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[Vanessa]

Well just had a pretty stressy day today ..

Back to work ( High School) well over 1300 pupils and 150 staff ... not one person wearing a mask ... not in classrooms nor corridors etc .

I initially went in with mine on and there was one teacher who had hers on but within 10
minutes we both took them off .

Cant speak for her but I felt uncomfortable wearing it when nobody else was .

Still seems crazy with there being over 30,000 new infections and around 200
deaths each day ... and this variant being more easily caught .

I called in Pets At Home a few minutes ago and not one customer or member of staff wore a mask !


Sky Sports just showed this guy ..
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You could wear a visor, maybe?

[arista]

Thursday 2/9/21

178 have Died
38,154 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,596

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,030


132,920 Total UK Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Thursday 26/8/21

140 Have Died
38,281 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,906

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
974

.

132,143 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Thursday 2/9/21

178 have Died
38,154 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,596

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,030


132,920 Total UK Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[Zizu]

You could wear a visor, maybe?


I just wouldn’t feel comfortable/confident..
I’m a shy , introverted type so I try to blend in ..

It’s ridiculous really given the risks .. that said it’s so difficult when not one other person is wearing a mask .


I think it’s time for me to bite the bullet .. I know I spend too much time worrying .

I’ve decided to just carry on and if I get the virus hopefully it’s not too bad


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[michael21]

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Yes the rich helping the rich

[Vanessa]

Since we have plenty of vaccines, they should offer the booster to everyone.
Why throw them away? It's a waste.

[arista]

U Turn by JCVI


JCVI say now not doing 12 year olds vaccines
only those will illness.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58438669

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-vaccines-will-not-be-recommended-for-healthy-children-aged-12-to-15-government-advisers-say-12398444

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9955325/JCVI-WONT-recommend-giving-Covid-vaccine-healthy-children-aged-12-15.html

[Cherie]

U Turn

Government now not doing 12 year olds vaccines
only those will illness.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9955325/JCVI-WONT-recommend-giving-Covid-vaccine-healthy-children-aged-12-15.html

Be interesting to see what parental reaction is

[arista]

Friday 3/9/21

121 Have Died
42,076 Have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,541

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,038


133,041 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Be interesting to see what parental reaction is


Yes some kids and parents wanted it.


I wonder if its stock levels?

[Cherie]

Yes some kids and parents wanted it.


I wonder if its stock levels?


Have they sent some to Australia?

[arista]

Have they sent some to Australia?


Yes
I assumed that was not part of the UK stock level.


On the news it's all about JCVI


No one debating real time stock levels.

[arista]

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Yes Yesterday.

[user104658]

Yes some kids and parents wanted it.


I wonder if its stock levels?

Have they sent some to Australia?

It's not about stock levels, covid risk for under-16's is so low that the vaccine is almost as risky as the illness and that's with current knowledge... the argument for doing it has been that it might offer additional herd immunity and protect adults, but there are some absolutely massive ethical implications there.

There's also the fact that current stats make it look a lot like the vaccines are highly effective at stopping severe illness, but actually not as effective at stopping spread, meaning there's not actually much point vaccinating people who are unlikely to get severely ill as they can carry & spread even if vaccinated.

[bots]

It's not about stock levels, covid risk for under-16's is so low that the vaccine is almost as risky as the illness and that's with current knowledge... the argument for doing it has been that it might offer additional herd immunity and protect adults, but there are some absolutely massive ethical implications there.

There's also the fact that current stats make it look a lot like the vaccines are highly effective at stopping severe illness, but actually not as effective at stopping spread, meaning there's not actually much point vaccinating people who are unlikely to get severely ill as they can carry & spread even if vaccinated.

agree, there is plenty evidence that doubled jabbed people catch covid, they are just protected from serious illness. As kids don't get seriously ill with it unless vulnerable there is no net benefit to jabbing that age group unless vulnerable. Set against the risk of side effects, it's a no brainer for kids, don't vaccinate them

[Beso]

It's not about stock levels, covid risk for under-16's is so low that the vaccine is almost as risky as the illness and that's with current knowledge... the argument for doing it has been that it might offer additional herd immunity and protect adults, but there are some absolutely massive ethical implications there.

There's also the fact that current stats make it look a lot like the vaccines are highly effective at stopping severe illness, but actually not as effective at stopping spread, meaning there's not actually much point vaccinating people who are unlikely to get severely ill as they can carry & spread even if vaccinated.



I dont buy the risk factor. The reason being they are willing to, and do, inject vulnerable children with it.

[Zizu]

agree, there is plenty evidence that doubled jabbed people catch covid, they are just protected from serious illness. As kids don't get seriously ill with it unless vulnerable there is no net benefit to jabbing that age group unless vulnerable. Set against the risk of side effects, it's a no brainer for kids, don't vaccinate them


Oscar De La Hoya hospitalized after contracting coronavirus
The 48-year-old boxer was fully vaccinated

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[user104658]

I dont buy the risk factor. The reason being they are willing to, and do, inject vulnerable children with it.


Because vulnerable children are more at risk from Covid, and thus the balance of risks falls more in favour of getting vaccinated. It’s not really complicated to be honest.

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[Beso]

Because vulnerable children are more at risk from Covid, and thus the balance of risks falls more in favour of getting vaccinated. It’s not really complicated to be honest.


It is complicated TS.

Covid is complicated, and it's a disease we dont know fully yet, so you shouldnt be so sure about things.:nono:

Yet.

[Cherie]

Oscar De La Hoya hospitalized after contracting coronavirus
The 48-year-old boxer was fully vaccinated

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No oxegen mask? If he can breath unaided his covid doesnt appear life threatening? Maybe precautionary if he has other issues

[Zizu]

No oxegen mask? If he can breath unaided his covid doesnt appear life threatening? Maybe precautionary if he has other issues


He was giving a short 60 second interview to explain why he’s pulled out of his comeback fight next week.

The worry is ... not only was he double vaccinated but he was in absolute supreme physical condition...


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[arista]

So Some in Government want 12 year olds to get that vax
But the advising body JCVI are worried about the possible
below 10% of those 12 year olds in USA that could die?

[arista]

Kids should all have a mask on
at every school.


Now on LBC Matt Frei


Care Homes Lack of staff
due to No Jab. No Job.

[Zizu]

Kids should all have a mask on
at every school.


Now on LBC Matt Frei


Care Homes Lack of staff
due to No Jab. No Job.


Millions of pupils are already back and mixing - no masks .

It’s too late now


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[arista]

Millions of pupils are already back and mixing - no masks .

It’s too late now




Yes numbers will pop up

[arista]

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Packed at Heathrow

[arista]

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[It has been claimed that a male holidaymaker
fainted while standing in line for passport control
while pregnant women,
pensioners and young children
were made to walk long distances
with no shuttles available and
no social distancing possible]

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[arista]

USA
has 163,273 New Covid -19 cases
up 5%
John Hopkins Site

CNN HD USA Live

[arista]

If experts say it's not worth vaccinating kids outside of the at-risk ones, then I'll trust their knowledge.

Yes many agree
but Johnson PM
appears to want to go ahead with it.


I do hope he is on Trevor Phillips SkyNewsHD 8:30AM
or
Marr 9AM BBC1HD

Sunday morning.

[arista]

Saturday 4/9/21

120 Have Died
37,578 Have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,541

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,038

133,161 Total UK Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Having listened to the JCVI the reasoning is sound as vaccinated or not they can still transmit, the same can be said for over 16s also, think they should have cut off at 21 personally unless for vulnerable teens

[MTVN]

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[It has been claimed that a male holidaymaker
fainted while standing in line for passport control
while pregnant women,
pensioners and young children
were made to walk long distances
with no shuttles available and
no social distancing possible]

Social distancing is no longer possible or required in many venues, you wouldn't go to a football match now and expect social distancing so same applies if you choose to take the risk of air travel

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Social distancing is no longer possible or required in many venues, you wouldn't go to a football match now and expect social distancing so same applies if you choose to take the risk of air travel


Of Course
but they would prefer some distance
due to stuffy air.

Of course not a Football match
but loads packed in,
From Infected Nations
no less.

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[arista]

Sunday 5/9/21

68 have died.
37,011 Have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
7,541

Patients in
ventilation beds
Latest available
1,038


133,229 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[arista]

Yes Strict Nation - France

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Second class citizens, like the Jews in 1938


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[Cherie]

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How can you tell what’s going on here ...a lot of men for one little lady though

[user104658]

How can you tell what’s going on here ...a lot of men for one little lady though


Agreed - this is horrendous whatever is going on, however I am very skeptical that it’s that “she tried to go shopping without a vaccine passport”. These Twitter accounts are full of misattributed photos and videos, need to see an actual source.

As for what’s going on in Australia, it’s a fascinating glimpse into the past really. They managed to dodge it for a year and a half and it’s only now hitting… so the situation there seems to basically be what it was here way back in March/April 2020 in the UK, and then later in the summer 2020 in the US.

[Nicky91]

this is what happens when you must listen to the fishgob moronic public


if more people die, all that blood on the hands of those freedom loving morons

[Nicky91]

not proud of my own nation either, stupid decisions here too because we got a coward of a PM who is giving in to those vile anti-lockdown protesters


first of all letting go of face mask compulsory (which is a huge mistake) now letting go of social distancing in schools/uni's (another major mistake) also letting go of class quarantaine procedure when a child is tested positive for covid, because well otherwise those stupid parents have to be annoyed (seriously Rutte, De Jonge any of our bunch of losers)



well i'm going away for a few days as of tomorrow, but upon arrival in bungalow i'm going to be wearing a face mask, because i always am extra careful, not just for covid, but other virusses too, already have been all my life + my parents will be wearing face masks too when going to shops for souvenir or takeaway area to order our dinners or at checkin at reception (because we already know thx to failure Rutte the staff there won't be wearing a mask since that is no longer compulsory :idc:)