Coronavirus Outbreak : Plan B

[arista]

Germany has over taken Spain? somethings not right with these figures



Thats right 3rd Wave in the EU.
Germany knew they had worse deaths
and called a Lockdown
then she cancelled it due to her regions not agreeing


That's why I posted just 14 nations
showing the New Changes

[Vicky.]

Its good to be keeping ontop of it really, even if the new tweaks and such are not needed, IF they are needed at some stage, its there instead of locking down for months again while tweaking it.

[Nicky91]

Thats right 3rd Wave in the EU.
Germany knew they had worse deaths
and called a Lockdown
then she cancelled it due to her regions not agreeing


That's why I posted just 14 nations
showing the New Changes

yes the regional leaders to blame for this then, making her cancel the lockdown

[Nicky91]

https://www.thelocal.de/20210326/health-minister-calls-on-germans-to-only-meet-outside-amid-last-part-of-pandemic-marathon/

Germany: health minister Spahn calls for people only meet outside amid last part of pandemic marathon

so no more having people over indoors

[Cherie]

https://www.thelocal.de/20210326/health-minister-calls-on-germans-to-only-meet-outside-amid-last-part-of-pandemic-marathon/

Germany: health minister Spahn calls for people only meet outside amid last part of pandemic marathon

so no more having people over indoors


This has been brought in parts of Spain as well overnight, no household mixing..

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/TMZ/status/1375802340461195266

Banksy piece ''game changer'' sells for 23 million

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

8.868 new cases

296 new hospitalisations 56 more than yesterday (2.238 in total)

51 new ICU patients 7 more than yesterday (643 in total)

29 new deaths

[DouglasS]

Spain are definitely counting their figures differently to everyone else for sure, I reckon they are just counting confirmed covid deaths rather than anyone who dies within 28 days of being classed as positive (who may die of many different causes: considering most are 80+)

[arista]

Saturday 27/3/21

Today 58 Died
4,715 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,560

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
615


126,573 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Saturday 20/3/21

96 have died

5,587 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,162

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
830

126,122 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Saturday 27/3/21

Today 58 Died
4,715 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,560

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
615


126,573 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[Nicky91]

our 8k new cases also because of schools basically, but also what hasn't been counted during the week

that are weekend numbers basically here, our important days are Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday too

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/03/coronavirus-deniers-in-parliament-are-a-dangerous-thing-de-jonge/

Netherlands: coronavirus denying MP's are a dangerous thing, said health minister Hugo de Jonge

[Nicky91]

Germany: health minister Jens Spahn advises Merkel to go for a 10 day strict lockdown no matter what the regional leaders want, since what they want is not good for the country

a national lockdown is best to get numbers down faster

[arista]

Grant Shapps Transport Sec.,
bringing in Complex testing for Lorry drivers

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[arista]

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[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

7.513 new cases

182 new hospitalisations 114 less than yesterday (2.248 in total)

41 new ICU patients 10 less than yesterday (655 in total)

15 new deaths

[arista]

Sunday 28/3/21

Today 19 deaths
3,862 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,560

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
615


126,592 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Sunday 21/3/21

Today 33 Dead.

5,312 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,162

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
830

126,155 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Sunday 28/3/21

Today 19 deaths
3,862 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,560

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
615


126,592 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[Zizu]

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Looking promising .. let’s hope the next ‘step’ goes as smoothly


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Health Secretary
Live outside of This Morning Studio ITV1HD

Just said we will get a 3rd Jab, before the end of the year.

[arista]

The Prime Minister is Live 5PM
from his new press room
No.9 Downing St.

BBC1HD
SkyNewsHD
Radio 5
LBC
Times Radio DAB

[arista]

Live Now

[Vanessa]

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Omg this is brilliant. I'm so happy!

[arista]

Monday 29/3/21

Today 23 have died.
4,654 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,560

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
615


126,615 Total UK deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Monday 22/3/21

Today 17 Died

5,342 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
6,162

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
830


126,172 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Monday 29/3/21

Today 23 have died.
4,654 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,560

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
615


126,615 Total UK deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Our wonderful vaccine programme is sorting things right out

[DouglasS]

Our wonderful vaccine programme is sorting things right out

The government are doing a great job at the minute

[Cherie]

Novovax which will be produced in the UK was originally going to go to Europe for bottling will now be filled and finished by Glaxo in the UK

[arista]

BBC1HD Docu Undercover
Testing Covid Plant

[bots]

Novovax which will be produced in the UK was originally going to go to Europe for bottling will now be filled and finished by Glaxo in the UK

60 million doses apparently, so if the EU decide to continue to play silly buggers, we are still covered for vaccinating the remaining population

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Zizu]

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I heard a NHS guy on Sky News around 6pm tonight saying that everything is going well and looking good for restrictions to be removed as planned .. but added we just don’t want any of these foreign strains coming over and detailing things ..

I may be wrong but we haven’t closed the borders to France have we ?

Yet they’re getting over 40,000 new cases each DAY !


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[arista]

"I may be wrong but we haven’t closed the borders to France have we ?"


No, this is because of Food Stocks & Medicines that come in
via Lorry and Planes from France.
Johnson is scared of putting France on the ban.

[arista]

From The China report
on the start of Covid-19
they all say likely from bats,
In the Wet Market over 150 stalls were there
all close to each other.


Ref:Times Radio DAB

[arista]

Tuesday 30/3/21

Today 56 have died
4,040 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,153

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
583

126,670 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/03/coronavirus-cases-increase-by-13-biggest-rise-in-over-70s/

Netherlands: increase of corona cases by 13%, biggest rise in over 70's

[Cherie]

Tuesday 23/3/21

Today 112 have died

5,379 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,461

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
748

126,284Total UK deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Tuesday 30/3/21

Today 56 have died
4,040 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,153

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
583

126,670 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[Cherie]

Infections seem to be going down/stable and we are now 3 weeks after schools opening?

[arista]

Infections seem to be going down/stable and we are now 3 weeks after schools opening?


Of course but it takes 2 weeks
or more to get an update


We have had a very long Lockdown.

[Cherie]

Of course but it takes 2 weeks
or more to get an update


We have had a very long Lockdown.

Yes I hope people wont get stupid, how hard is it to keep your distance in a garden

[arista]

Ch5HDnews showed an illegal Rave
under a motorway bridge
West Midlands Police
had to rescue one young lady
who ended up in a river while trying to escape.

[bots]

week on week the numbers are getting better. We are hitting the warmer months, people are being vaccinated, business is starting to re-open. I think there are some grounds for cautious optimism

[arista]

week on week the numbers are getting better. We are hitting the warmer months, people are being vaccinated, business is starting to re-open. I think there are some grounds for cautious optimism


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/03/30/16/41132970-9417311-image-a-205_1617118366234.jpg
[Hundreds of people flock to Woodhouse Moor in Leeds today]


Covid Spreaders

[arista]

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[A police officer talks to people as they
have a barbecue in Brighton today following
the easing of lockdown restrictions]

[Nicky91]

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[Hundreds of people flock to Woodhouse Moor in Leeds today]


Covid Spreaders

indeed what Cherie says, how hard is it to stay in your own garden :facepalm:

[Cherie]

indeed what Cherie says, how hard is it to stay in your own garden :facepalm:

we had all these kind of pictures last year but they didn't add to the virus spreading

[bots]

now that >95% of the vulnerable have been vaccinated, crowds gathering outdoors is much less of an issue. I don't blame anyone for wanting to get out in the fresh air on a warm day after being locked down for months

[Nicky91]

now that >95% of the vulnerable have been vaccinated, crowds gathering outdoors is much less of an issue. I don't blame anyone for wanting to get out in the fresh air on a warm day after being locked down for months

you can also sit in your garden, or work in your garden (now is the time of year to do garden chores anyways too)

i don't mind myself in my country it is still lockdown and curfew, since it doesn't affect my own life

as long as i can be in garden, as for indoors in my room watch my series, being able to have my own freedom i am happy

sorry if i am a weirdo that way, if i don't the aspects of socializing


must make an apology to you as well Bots, for you saying i talk nonsense, sorry i just get stressed out from hearing things on here and also reading other things and hearing other views from my parents regarding vaccines/lockdowns

[Zizu]

Ch5HDnews showed an illegal Rave
under a motorway bridge
West Midlands Police
had to rescue one young lady
who ended up in a river while trying to escape.



They should just blast them with dye like they do in Hong Kong


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[Nicky91]

Spain: another face mask compulsory indoors and outdoors now, after a huge surge in new cases and a huge rise in hospitalisations


wow i mean germany can receive criticism for being too slow in vaccine rollout, but Spain if they had more vaccinations done i think the huge rise in hospitalisations wouldn't have been this big :idc:


countries for me who are being too slow are Netherlands, France, Spain



i support Merkel, as i've always done (i mean AstraZeneca only for 60+ now is better considering most of deaths there are below 60 after that vaccine dose)

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/03/summer-nights-curfew-to-start-at-10pm-from-wednesday-evening/


https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/03/fewer-coronavirus-vaccine-appointments-made-than-forecast-rivm-says/

Netherlands: as of today, summer nights curfew to start at 10 PM, so the curfew will now more be used to hopefully get rid of illegal partying at night

and fewer vaccine appointments were made than expected, ugh

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1377180141764243459

[Cherie]

https://twitter.com/CNN/status/1377180141764243459

So no definitive conclusion where the virus came from, not unsurprising

[Vicky.]

Some people are in a park,they think its all over?!

What a bloody ridiculous headline :laugh:

We are allowed to meet now anyway, but even if not, seems pretty hard to catch covid outside.

Also last time the papers were flapping about this, the beaches pictures turned ut to be long lense shots that made it look worse, as one of them had a pic of south shields beach, the day I was there...looked like thousands were there in a huge bundle but..it was busy but people had distancing between their different groups :shrug:

I don't really see how anything could 'blow it' now really, given the reason for deaths/hospitalizations going down is...the vaccinations. Not distancing, not lockdown...else numbers would have fallen way earlier. The numbers have gone down steadily with every vaccine given it looks like. Therefor, peoples behaviour doesn't really matter much in the grand scheme of things. I wouldn't advise any raves at the min of course, but the rags bringing out 'omg look at all these granny killers taking advantage of a sunny day by being OUTSIDE! D: ' are just being ridiculous. Keep an eye out for 'cases' again soon, rather than the numbers that actually matter, which is hospitalizations really..

[Niamh.]

We're still not supposed to meet up with people outside until April 12th. I let Luke meet up with his friends yesterday though, he's been so good over the last year, never complained about it but I'm not doing it to him anymore, I'm worrying about the psychological damage that's being done to people and especially kids and teenagers

[Crimson Dynamo]

Some people are in a park,they think its all over?!

What a bloody ridiculous headline :laugh:

We are allowed to meet now anyway, but even if not, seems pretty hard to catch covid outside.

Also last time the papers were flapping about this, the beaches pictures turned ut to be long lense shots that made it look worse, as one of them had a pic of south shields beach, the day I was there...looked like thousands were there in a huge bundle but..it was busy but people had distancing between their different groups :shrug:

I don't really see how anything could 'blow it' now really, given the reason for deaths/hospitalizations going down is...the vaccinations. Not distancing, not lockdown...else numbers would have fallen way earlier. The numbers have gone down steadily with every vaccine given it looks like. Therefor, peoples behaviour doesn't really matter much in the grand scheme of things. I wouldn't advise any raves at the min of course, but the rags bringing out 'omg look at all these granny killers taking advantage of a sunny day by being OUTSIDE! D: ' are just being ridiculous. Keep an eye out for 'cases' again soon, rather than the numbers that actually matter, which is hospitalizations really..

when Rangers won the league there were large gatherings outside the stadium and in the middle of Glasgow - maskless fans all singing and drinking

People were like "wait for the bike spike in Glasgow"

didnt happen

[Vanessa]

Some people are in a park,they think its all over?!

What a bloody ridiculous headline :laugh:

We are allowed to meet now anyway, but even if not, seems pretty hard to catch covid outside.

Also last time the papers were flapping about this, the beaches pictures turned ut to be long lense shots that made it look worse, as one of them had a pic of south shields beach, the day I was there...looked like thousands were there in a huge bundle but..it was busy but people had distancing between their different groups :shrug:

I don't really see how anything could 'blow it' now really, given the reason for deaths/hospitalizations going down is...the vaccinations. Not distancing, not lockdown...else numbers would have fallen way earlier. The numbers have gone down steadily with every vaccine given it looks like. Therefor, peoples behaviour doesn't really matter much in the grand scheme of things. I wouldn't advise any raves at the min of course, but the rags bringing out 'omg look at all these granny killers taking advantage of a sunny day by being OUTSIDE! D: ' are just being ridiculous. Keep an eye out for 'cases' again soon, rather than the numbers that actually matter, which is hospitalizations really..

It's only going to be warm until Thursday.
Cold weather is back fro Friday.
I'm going out, I've been locked at home for ages.
I need some fresh air and sunshine :laugh:

[arista]

1377213576125931520


[Pfizer says its COVID-19 vaccine is 100% effective at protecting children
aged 12 to 15 from symptomatic disease
Pfizer announced Wednesday that its COVID-19 vaccine is safe
and strongly protective in kids as young as 12
Most COVID-19 vaccines being rolled out worldwide
are for adults, who are at higher risk from the coronavirus]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9422547/Pfizer-says-COVID-19-vaccine-protects-younger-teens.html?ito=social-twitter_dailymailus

[Vicky.]

We were going to the park today (though expect it to be..hell! Its the only place really people can take the kids, who are off on holiday, and obviously being..kids!) but james fell over and gashed his knee. So think we going tomorrow. Beach next week if weather stays nice. Not meeting anyone like, but we can be put down as 'covidiots' aswell by the star or whatever, for taking the kids outside into the open air! :laugh:

[Vicky.]

when Rangers won the league there were large gatherings outside the stadium and in the middle of Glasgow - maskless fans all singing and drinking

People were like "wait for the bike spike in Glasgow"

didnt happen

Yup. same for packed beaches last time, and protests, and VE day celebrations...hence, it seems not very likely at all to spread outside, short of someone coughing/sneezing right in your face! D:

And tbh, as I said, infection rates hardly matter now, aslong as the vulnerable are not getting very ill from it, which the vaccine seems to have sorted (at least for now, maybe boosters needed or whatever, but they will have a large period of protection at the min)

It's only going to be warm until Thursday.
Cold weather is back fro Friday.
I'm going out, I've been locked at home for ages.
I need some fresh air and sunshine :laugh:

Oh really..might need to change plans then as was going to do a BBQ on friday too! :laugh:

[Vanessa]

They say from Friday the weather is going to get cold.
Might do my weekly shop then if I can't go out.

[Vicky.]

Temps for here say 18 tomorrow, 9 thursday, 11 sat (all with clouds and sun) :S

Then next week a drop, claiming bloody snow (?!) for 2 days then rain..lovely. Can't afford beach this week :bored:

[Niamh.]

We were going to the park today (though expect it to be..hell! Its the only place really people can take the kids, who are off on holiday, and obviously being..kids!) but james fell over and gashed his knee. So think we going tomorrow. Beach next week if weather stays nice. Not meeting anyone like, but we can be put down as 'covidiots' aswell by the star or whatever, for taking the kids outside into the open air! :laugh:

Our 5km restrictions were supposed to finish on April 5th but they've pushed it out till the 12th probably because there's a Bank holiday on the 5th.......assholes

[Vicky.]

Our 5km restrictions were supposed to finish on April 5th but they've pushed it out till the 12th probably because there's a Bank holiday on the 5th.......assholes

5km? Not sure what thats about? Is this the distance you can travel to 'exercise'? I find that rule quite silly really :laugh:

[Niamh.]

5km? Not sure what thats about? Is this the distance you can travel to 'exercise'? I find that rule quite silly really :laugh:

Yeah, you can break it if you have a "good" reason though, they only really have checks at the weekends. For the 12th while be allowed travel anywhere within the county so not even free travel yet

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[Nicky91]

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bunch of morons :idc:

[Nicky91]

we need to remain in lockdown, stay indoors

[Zizu]

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Absolute madness


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[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

7.684 new cases

2.334 in total of hospitalisations (decrease of 76 compared to yesterday)

681 in total of ICU patients (decrease of 1, compared to yesterday)

209 care homes where there are new cases, compared to last week when that number was at 227

[arista]

Wednesday 31/3/21

Today 43 have Died
4,052 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,176

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
568

126,173 Total UK Deaths



https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/03/five-utrecht-bars-will-open-for-business-in-april-to-test-coronavirus-rules/

Netherlands: five utrecht bars will open for business in april for a coronavirus experiment, under strict rules ''no socializing, immediately leaving after finishing your drink, no close contact''

[Zizu]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/03/five-utrecht-bars-will-open-for-business-in-april-to-test-coronavirus-rules/

Netherlands: five utrecht bars will open for business in april for a coronavirus experiment, under strict rules ''no socializing, immediately leaving after finishing your drink, no close contact''



Good luck with that ... sadly many don’t follow the rules or guidelines

https://twitter.com/bbcnottingham/status/1376931278667272196?s=21


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[Cherie]

Wednesday 24/3/21

Today 98 died

5,605 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,407

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
711

126,382 Total UK deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Wednesday 31/3/21

Today 43 have Died
4,052 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,176

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
568

126,173 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deathsu

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[Alf]

So my opinion hasn't changed, I stick with what I've always said.

This all stops when the people have had enough, until then, this is the new normal.

[arista]

So my opinion hasn't changed, I stick with what I've always said.

This all stops when the people have had enough, until then, this is the new normal.


Let's see the numbers in 2 weeks time
first.

[Vanessa]

We just need to keep vaccinating.
It works. .

[Zizu]

Let's see the numbers in 2 weeks time

first.



The numbers around the end of April will be interesting.. that’s two weeks AFTER the Easter holidays are over ..


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Looks like all students who have probably been mingling for weeks anyway tbh, who can blame them given how a big chunk of their Uni experience has turned out

[arista]

Ch4HDnews
reports 14,000 UK Prisoners
have Covid-19

[arista]

COVID-19: Wales lockdown to ease slightly with
cross-border travel allowed from 12 April

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-wales-lockdown-to-ease-slightly-with-cross-border-travel-allowed-from-12-april-12261978

[Cherie]

Looks like all students who have probably been mingling for weeks anyway tbh, who can blame them given how a big chunk of their Uni experience has turned out

I was walking the dog on Sunday and they all turned out from Mass didn’t realise Church’s were open :laugh:

[arista]

Macron gave his speech,
Schools to close for a month


[COVID-19: Tough coronavirus lockdown measures
widened to whole of France, says Macron
Macron had hoped France's COVID vaccine rollout
would reduce infections but so far
only 12% of the population has
been inoculated.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-tough-coronavirus-lockdown-measures-widened-to-whole-of-france-says-macron-12261849

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Wednesday 24/3/21

126,382 Total UK Deaths


Wednesday 31/3/21

126,173 Total UK Deaths


:think: Sumthin fukky

[Vanessa]

Macron gave his speech,
Schools to close for a month


[COVID-19: Tough coronavirus lockdown measures
widened to whole of France, says Macron
Macron had hoped France's COVID vaccine rollout
would reduce infections but so far
only 12% of the population has
been inoculated.]

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-tough-coronavirus-lockdown-measures-widened-to-whole-of-france-says-macron-12261849

They need to vaccinate more people to see some results.

[Zizu]

:think: Sumthin fukky



Unless the vaccines are even better than we thought !!
:)

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[Vanessa]

I'm loving this weather.
I'm going to enjoy as long as it lasts.
I'm off to Richmond Park later to see the deer.

[user104658]

Unless the vaccines are even better than we thought !!
:)

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They’re bringing people back from the dead?? This needs to be on the front of every paper :worry:.

[Zizu]

They’re bringing people back from the dead?? This needs to be on the front of every paper :worry:.



I’m glad someone got my poor attempt at humour :)


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[Nicky91]

https://nltimes.nl/sites/nltimes.nl/files/styles/news_article_full/public/2021-04/Depositphotos_312299060_l-2015.jpg?h=1a91228d

trailer trash scum, in vondelpark, amsterdam

:idc:

A number of parks throughout the Netherlands were cleared out again on Wednesday afternoon due to crowds and failure to adhere to the coronavirus measures. The nice weather, combined with fatigue of the coronavirus lockdown sent Netherlands residents outside en masse.

Amsterdam closed the entrances of the Vondelpark at around 2:15 p.m. and cleared the park at 6:30 p.m., according to Het Parool. Two people were arrested. A spokesperson for mayor Femke Halsema told AT5 that they decided to clear visitors out of the park because of crowds. "A large group clumped around the monument with drinks and music. A too large group that did not adhere to the corona measures and did not keep a meter and a half apart," the spokesperson said.

After the park was cleared, groups of young people gathered and partied on the Museumplein. The police eventually intervened there too.

People were also asked to leave Park Lepelenburg in Utrecht, RTV Utrecht reports. The park was too crowded and visitors did not maintain social distancing, the municipality said to the broadcaster. The Paardenveld Park, the Wilhelminapark, and the Griftpark were also crowded.

The municipality of Arnhem banned alcohol in the Sonsbeek Park on Wednesday afternoon. "Visitors are ordered to store their drinks in bags and not to use them anymore. Anyone who does not listen is asked to leave the park," a reporter at the scene told Omroep Gelderland.

Police and enforcement officers were also actively enforcing coronavirus measures and an alcohol ban in the Noorderplantsoen in Groningen. "People are kindly requested to adhere to the corona measures. That is not going well," a spokesperson for the municipality said to RTV Noord. "Then we cannot draw any other conclusion than that people should leave."

https://nltimes.nl/2021/04/01/spring-weather-sends-nl-residents-outside-various-parks-evacuated

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

7.882 new cases (224 more than yesterday)

337 new hospitalisations

61 new ICU patients (highest number since 30th December)

hospitals total now: 2.327 7 less than yesterday

Nursing wards total now: 1.639 14 less than yesterday

ICU total now: 688 7 more than yesterday


hospital patient data from last 7 days: 2.057 patients (average of almost 294 a day, highest since January 6th)

[Cherie]

Netherlands todays numbers

nothing known yet on new cases for today

337 new hospitalisations

61 new ICU patients (highest number since 30th December)

hospitals total now: 2.327 7 less than yesterday

Nursing wards total now: 1.639 14 less than yesterday

ICU total now: 688 7 more than yesterday


hospital patient data from last 7 days: 2.057 patients (average of almost 294 a day, highest since January 6th)


the figures look very bad :worry:

[user104658]

I really don’t understand how things have gone so wrong on the continent with vaccination. Someone, or multiple people, have seriously dropped the ball surely?

[Vanessa]

I really don’t understand how things have gone so wrong on the continent with vaccination. Someone, or multiple people, have seriously dropped the ball surely?

They've been way too slow in vaccinating.
Results won't show until they vaccinate the most vulnerable.

[Nicky91]

I really don’t understand how things have gone so wrong on the continent with vaccination. Someone, or multiple people, have seriously dropped the ball surely?

vaccinating is difficult, we aren't all as perfect as UK

[bots]

I really don’t understand how things have gone so wrong on the continent with vaccination. Someone, or multiple people, have seriously dropped the ball surely?

they keep trying to blame AZ for it too, which is a bit of a stretch when there are now loads of different vaccines available :laugh:

The fact that they throw out AZ but are looking at using the the russian vaccine which has literally no recognised medical data backing it up is just astounding

[arista]

Thursday 1/4/21

Today 51 have died
4,479 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,957


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
547


126,764 Total UK deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Thursday 25/3/21

Today 63 have Died

6,397 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
5,122

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
683

126,455 Total UK Deaths.



https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Thursday 1/4/21

Today 51 have died
4,479 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,957


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
547


126,764 Total UK deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[bots]

at least there are no zombies included in this week on week figure

[Nicky91]

no reason for panic in Netherlands anyway, hopefully we go to 3 million vaccinated this month

younger people cannot get the jab (for a long time here i think, maybe in about 2 years if we speed up the rollout now)

[Vanessa]

vaccinating is difficult, we aren't all as perfect as UK

It takes time, so I hope the EU doesn't give up.
It will work.

[Vanessa]

.

I can't believe how much things are improving.
I'm so happy!

[Vanessa]

:laugh: I did wonder about the numbersat least there are no zombies included in this week on week figure

[Nicky91]

the fieldlab test events seem to be working

majority testing negative before and after the event


just between 1-3 people with symptoms but sometimes not from the event itself


so far we've tested with football matches, music concerts, stand up comedy


so our biggest test will be ESC which has more global attention (also not known if people have to pay for tickets or if they are treated as test subjects free entrance)

[Vanessa]

the fieldlab test events seem to be working

majority testing negative before and after the event


just between 1-3 people with symptoms but sometimes not from the event itself


so far we've tested with football matches, music concerts, stand up comedy


so our biggest test will be ESC which has more global attention (also not known if people have to pay for tickets or if they are treated as test subjects free entrance)

That's good

[Crimson Dynamo]

The World Health Organization (WHO) has criticised the rollout of coronavirus vaccines in Europe as being "unacceptably slow". EU bungling at its finest

Only 16% of the EU's population has so far received a dose of vaccine.

:idc:

[Nicky91]

The World Health Organization (WHO) has criticised the rollout of coronavirus vaccines in Europe as being "unacceptably slow". EU bungling at its finest

Only 16% of the EU's population has so far received a dose of vaccine.

:idc:

yeah so, everyone is different into the vaccine rollout approach

i happily want to criticize the WHO now for their lacklustre investigation in China, failing to find the origins of covid-19

[Vanessa]

The World Health Organization (WHO) has criticised the rollout of coronavirus vaccines in Europe as being "unacceptably slow". EU bungling at its finest

Only 16% of the EU's population has so far received a dose of vaccine.

:idc:
Way too slow, they won't see results for ages if they carry on like this.

[bots]

New rules to help pubs, cafes and restaurants reopen outdoors safely in England on 12 April have sparked anger from industry groups.

All customers will have to sign in on entry, not just one member of the group like before. It is also unclear whether payment at the bar will be permitted.

UK Hospitality said it would burden struggling pubs and staff and risk customers deciding not to go out.

The BBC has contacted the Cabinet Office for a comment.

Under the new guidance, every customer aged 16 and over will have to check in to NHS test and trace before entering a venue, or give their contact details to staff.

Pubs and restaurants must take "reasonable steps" to stop people who won't comply from coming in, or they could face fines.

In a joint statement, UK Hospitality, the British Beer & Pub Association and the British Institute of Innkeeping said the rules would add "more confusion and inconvenience for customers and staff".

They also warned if indoors payments were not permitted from 12 April, then some pubs, particularly in rural areas with poor broadband, would be unable to take payments at all.

And they warned that with the government also considering if "proof of immunity" should be another requirement for entry, "millions" of people could be put off going to pubs and venues at a time when the hospitality industry is struggling.

"Government has promised the country that we will be reopening but we are now being told that this will be with our hands tied behind our backs," the groups said in a joint statement.

"Pubs will already be trading at a loss when they reopen with all the existing restrictions and Covid-secure measures in place. Adding further disproportionate and discriminatory measures threatens the very survival of thousands of businesses."

Hospitality businesses have been hit particularly hard by lockdown closures and restrictions.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-56608632

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https://www.vrt.be/vrtnws/en/2021/04/01/thousands-in-illegal-brussels-outdoor-party-as-april-fool-s-joke/

Thousands in illegal Brussels outdoor party as April Fools prank runs completely out of hand
Thousands of people, mainly youngsters, flocked to the Ter Kamerenbos park in Brussels on Thursday afternoon to attend a so-called festival, staging an illegal party. The "La Boum" festival had been announced on social media, but it turned out to be a joke for the occasion of April Fools' Day earlier this week. Despite this, many youngsters seized the opportunity to come together at the site to stage a party. Police had to deploy water cannons to disperse the crowd. Watch the first footage here.

A young man told the VRT that "we are sick of all those rules. We just want to live again." Things ran out of hand around 5 p.m. Police were at the site, but the crowd was too big to be controlled. When the youngsters refused to go home, the atmosphere got hostile. Party-goers hurled any objects they could find at the police, who deployed the water cannon and charged into the crowd with horses.

Strict corona restrictions still apply in Belgium as we are heading into a third wave. Hospitals can hardly cope with the influx of new corona patients, businesses have to close as a result of the restrictions, and concerts and other events have been cancelled to avoid that too many people would come together.



:facepalm: pathetic sad moronic youth scum

[bots]

:facepalm: pathetic sad moronic youth scum

no, just people wanting their life and freedom back. Enough is enough, the restrictions are no longer viable

[arista]

PM is to tell us about, the new possible Vaccine Passports
on his Monday briefing
News reports are saying

[Nicky91]

no, just people wanting their life and freedom back. Enough is enough, the restrictions are no longer viable

then stick to the rules, and work together in making numbers go down

then we could all have our life and freedom back


but no, impatient dumb youth need to illegal party and likely catch covid and spread those germs onto elderly

[bots]

People want freedom, the rules have gone on too long. Governments will not be allowed to continue this nonsense

[Nicky91]

People want freedom, the rules have gone on too long. Governments will not be allowed to continue this nonsense

why not?


because of that human rights nonsense :idc:

[Nicky91]

sorry not sorry, since u cannot force people to vaccinate, we must keep those rules/measures for as long as we have to

vile youth and anti-corona scum just needs to adapt to the new normal

[AnnieK]

sorry not sorry, since u cannot force people to vaccinate, we must keep those rules/measures for as long as we have to

vile youth and anti-corona scum just needs to adapt to the new normal

Those who refuse the vaccine should be made to isolate but those who have followed the rules and are now protecting themselves and others by being vaccinated should be able to regain their freedom.

[arista]

[Travel from the Philippines, Pakistan, Kenya
and Bangladesh will be banned from 04:00 BST on 9 April,
as the countries are added to the UK government's red list.

Nearly 40 countries are currently
on the red list
and nations can be added
to the list with just a few hours' notice.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-56613219

[Crimson Dynamo]

today its stay local not stay home (not that many have been doing that in the last wee while) in Scotland

but another step forward

[bots]

i went to the beach a couple of days ago, in non covid times it was always deserted, this week it was absolutely mobbed. People take their freedom much more seriously now

[Vanessa]

I've been to the beach as well, but the weather wasn't great :laugh:

[Vanessa]

I don't mind the vaccine passports, to be honest.
People who can't get vaccinated can get a test instead.
I think that could work.

[Crimson Dynamo]

then stick to the rules, and work together in making numbers go down

then we could all have our life and freedom back


but no, impatient dumb youth need to illegal party and likely catch covid and spread those germs onto elderly

all the "elderly" have been vaccinated

[Nicky91]

Those who refuse the vaccine should be made to isolate but those who have followed the rules and are now protecting themselves and others by being vaccinated should be able to regain their freedom.

the discrimination in this post :idc:

[AnnieK]

the discrimination in this post :idc:

What discrimination is that Nicky?

[Nicky91]

What discrimination is that Nicky?

something i already saw coming, that the vaccinated ones have freedom, and those who aren't vaccinated get discriminated upon

[AnnieK]

something i already saw coming, that the vaccinated ones have freedom, and those who aren't vaccinated get discriminated upon

It's not discrimination, its reality. There is no mandate to make people take the vaccines as it must be personal choice but for those that do there must be some return to the freedoms we used to have.

[Nicky91]

It's not discrimination, its reality. There is no mandate to make people take the vaccines as it must be personal choice but for those that do there must be some return to the freedoms we used to have.

i don't care, i never socialize normally either

lockdown life is normal life for me

[AnnieK]

i don't care, i never socialize normally either

lockdown life is normal life for me

And that's fine for you then....but for other people who need to see family and friends after a year long forced isolation it's not fine. They have made the decision to have the vaccine to protect themselves and others so there has to be some trade off.

[Vicky.]

I don't really see an issue in the unvaccinated having freedom too, given the huge majority of them now will be younger fitter people overall, who were quite likely to suffer asymptomatic infection in the first place? And if they spread it to 'the formerly vulnerable'...again it doesnt matter much as those people are now protected? Might be missing something like. But infections..in the UK anyway, are surely not really any concern. Just keep an eye on hospital numbers. Thats what matters now.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

7.296 new cases

276 new hospitalisations (2.330 in total)

48 new ICU patients (705 in total)

17 new deaths

[Zizu]

I don't really see an issue in the unvaccinated having freedom too, given the huge majority of them now will be younger fitter people overall, who were quite likely to suffer asymptomatic infection in the first place? And if they spread it to 'the formerly vulnerable'...again it doesnt matter much as those people are now protected? Might be missing something like. But infections..in the UK anyway, are surely not really any concern. Just keep an eye on hospital numbers. Thats what matters now.



My fears is the young folk spreading the new variants around as we simply have no idea how that scenario plays out for us all


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[arista]

Mondays Briefing
is due to have the Traffic Light Travel system
to happen soon, for Travel.

Ref: Times Radio DAB

[user104658]

Even ol' Whitty is these days conceding that Covid is here to stay and the best we can do is bolster our defences against it (with vaccine programmes, other medical treatments and countermeasures, etc.) and essentially accept that it's a new disease we need to live with.

[Cherie]

Even ol' Whitty is these days conceding that Covid is here to stay and the best we can do is bolster our defences against it (with vaccine programmes, other medical treatments and countermeasures, etc.) and essentially accept that it's a new disease we need to live with.

He has been saying that for months at the briefings, its only finally made its way to the front page news :bored:

[user104658]

He has been saying that for months at the briefings, its only finally made its way to the front page news :bored:

I guess what has to be accepted is that there is no "next step" - vaccines are the endgame, they are currently the best we can do to tackle a virus, there is no "what next if that doesn't end it"... there is no "next". This is what we were waiting for. Hopefully it will be highly effective in bringing hospitalisations and deaths down to very low levels, permanently. But that's it really, one way or another we have to keep the world spinning :shrug:.

Plus it's only like 50 years until the whole planet ends 'cos of overfishing anyway so does it even matter that much #seaspiracy.

[arista]

Friday 2/4/21

Today 52 have died
3,402 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,723

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
517


126,816 Total Deaths UK


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[user104658]

Friday 26/3/21

Today 70 have died

6,187 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,852


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
630


Friday 2/4/21

Today 52 have died
3,402 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,723

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
517



Deaths
70 > 52 (down 26%)

Positive tests
6187 > 3402 (down 45%)

In hospital
4852 > 3723 (down 23%)

On ventilator
630 > 517 (down 18%)

[user104658]

In b4 Cherie and I did some comparative stats because I'm just better

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: have halted using AZ vaccine under 60's until wednesday at least

[user104658]

Netherlands: have halted using AZ vaccine under 60's until wednesday at least

Netherlands use of AZ on under 60's
Down 100%

Some more stats

[Cherie]

In b4 Cherie and I did some comparative stats because I'm just better

:joker: thank you, I would have no clue how to do that

[bots]

In b4 Cherie and I did some comparative stats because I'm just better

630 is not < 517 :nono:

[smudgie]

Deaths
70 > 52 (down 26%)

Positive tests
6187 > 3402 (down 45%)

In hospital
4852 > 3723 (down 23%)

On ventilator
630 < 517 (down 18%)

Thanks TS
Easier to get my head round it now.

[Nicky91]

UK will get to its third wave next year then, when all of those vaccines have worn off, so don't be too smug pls

[Cherie]

UK will get to its third wave next year then, when all of those vaccines have worn off, so don't be too smug pls

I don't think anyone is smug, just relieved numbers are falling 3 weeks after schools went back, and the vaccines appear to be working

[bots]

UK will get to its third wave next year then, when all of those vaccines have worn off, so don't be too smug pls

it's not a competition with other countries Nicky, its a fight against the virus. The world is not safe from covid until every country takes vaccination seriously. The EU have shown themselves to be totally incompetent so far, and they need to improve very quickly

[Nicky91]

it's not a competition with other countries Nicky, its a fight against the virus. The world is not safe from covid until every country takes vaccination seriously. The EU have shown themselves to be totally incompetent so far, and they need to improve very quickly

no, the EU has done well


corona will be here for 10 or more years, that is just a fact and we cannot change that

[user104658]

630 is not < 517 :nono:

:hmph: the buttons are right next to each other and I have large, manly hands.

[Nicky91]

we in the EU are doing a better job than the smug UK, whom don't think about the dangers of the vaccines


proud to be in the EU

[user104658]

we in the EU are doing a better job than the smug UK, whom don't think about the dangers of the vaccines


I'm afraid Nicky that's just currently not true, the numbers don't lie. Of course they can always change; the UK was certainly doing "worse" throughout the early stages of the pandemic.

[Nicky91]

I'm afraid Nicky that's just currently not true, the numbers don't lie. Of course they can always change; the UK was certainly doing "worse" throughout the early stages of the pandemic.

so what, vaccinating is irrelevant

we must all remain in strict lockdowns

[Crimson Dynamo]

we in the EU are doing a better job than the smug UK, whom don't think about the dangers of the vaccines


proud to be in the EU

Yes and yesterday Tthe WHO roasted the EU for their awful handling of the Vaccines

Lockdown after lockdown because they have cocked it up


17% vaccinated compared to UK WHO HAVE 60%

[Nicky91]

Netherlands and Germany: Rutte and his german colleague Laschet have advised people not to cross the border for easter holidays, Stay Home

[Nicky91]

Yes and yesterday Tthe WHO roasted the EU for their awful handling of the Vaccines

Lockdown after lockdown because they have cocked it up


17% vaccinated compared to UK WHO HAVE 60%

the corrupt WHO whom i don't trust at all


yes lockdowns are good

[AnnieK]

so what, vaccinating is irrelevant

we must all remain in strict lockdowns

How is vaccinating irrelevant??? Our statistics don't lie Nicky.....the.numbers before we started the vaccine rollout were.only going one way....up. Now pur numbers are.down, people are starting to have hope. If you want to live in a strict lockdown forever, that's fine. Many don't and thanks to the vaccine, we won't have to for much longer

[Nicky91]

How is vaccinating irrelevant??? Our statistics don't lie Nicky.....the.numbers before we started the vaccine rollout were.only going one way....up. Now pur numbers are.down, people are starting to have hope. If you want to live in a strict lockdown forever, that's fine. Many don't and thanks to the vaccine, we won't have to for much longer

you seem to forget we had covid under control with other good measures

1) keep your distance 2) wash your hands 3) wear a mask 4) Stay Home, Work from Home as much as you can

quite simple rules (only those dumb youth who cannot obey the rules)



now it is only about that stupid vaccinating this, vaccinating that UGH

[AnnieK]

you seem to forget we had covid under control with other good measures

1) keep your distance 2) wash your hands 3) wear a mask 4) Stay Home, Work from Home as much as you can

quite simple rules (only those dumb youth who cannot obey the rules)



now it is only about that stupid vaccinating this, vaccinating that UGH

Those rules are great Nicky but the longer they last, the more they will be broken. Society cannot be locked up forever....its just not feasible

[arista]

[Covid-19: Boris Johnson warns against mixing indoors
as Easter weekend begins]

[As the Easter Bank Holiday weekend began,
the PM said "we're not yet at that stage"
as coronavirus vaccines "are not giving 100% protection".]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56617667

[user104658]

you seem to forget we had covid under control with other good measures

1) keep your distance 2) wash your hands 3) wear a mask 4) Stay Home, Work from Home as much as you can

Objectively speaking... we did not have it under control.

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[Vanessa]

Yesterday I went to Richmond Park for the first time and saw loads of deer. It was fantastic and thankfully the park is huge, so social distancing is not a problem.

[arista]

Yesterday I went to Richmond Park for the first time and saw loads of deer. It was fantastic and thankfully the park is huge, so social distancing is not a problem.


Thats Great,

Sadly the R number has risen,


[On Friday, government scientists estimated England's R number
to be as high as 1 and warned that case numbers
may have stopped shrinking despite lockdown
measures and the vaccine rollout.

The government's Scientific Advisory Group
for Emergencies (SAGE) gave an estimate
of between 0.8 and 1, with a growth rate
of between -4% and 0%.]


SkyNewsHD

[Zizu]

Thats Great,

Sadly the R number has risen,


[On Friday, government scientists estimated England's R number
to be as high as 1 and warned that case numbers
may have stopped shrinking despite lockdown
measures and the vaccine rollout.

The government's Scientific Advisory Group
for Emergencies (SAGE) gave an estimate
of between 0.8 and 1, with a growth rate
of between -4% and 0%.]


SkyNewsHD



If it’s one now then I am a tad concerned as we’re not even close to being back to normal restrictions-wise plus so many are vaccinated

:(


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[Vanessa]

Thats Great,

Sadly the R number has risen,


[On Friday, government scientists estimated England's R number
to be as high as 1 and warned that case numbers
may have stopped shrinking despite lockdown
measures and the vaccine rollout.

The government's Scientific Advisory Group
for Emergencies (SAGE) gave an estimate
of between 0.8 and 1, with a growth rate
of between -4% and 0%.]


SkyNewsHD
That's was always going to happen with lockdown easing.
We just have to learn to live with it, we can't have a lockdown forever.

[arista]

[Vaccine passports 'will last less than a year': Boris Johnson ]

He is due to tell us on Monday 5PM.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9431459/Boris-Johnson-offers-set-time-limit-vaccine-certificates-answer-critics-fears.html

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: 1.000 of vaccine appointments of people below 60's have been cancelled for time being, because of the dangers of blood clots

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: amsterdam mayor Femke Halsema wants terraces, bars to be reopened

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Femke_Halsema

she also said in a late night talk show over here last night, she would still take the AZ vaccine, saying ''not afraid of a blood clot risk''

[Crimson Dynamo]

she sounds a good sensible woman, and i bet she has support?

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: we are sending all vaccine doses to Bulgaria since they can use them more than us

not all elderly are vaccinated here but we don't care, then we have to keep them locked up

[arista]

Netherlands: we are sending all vaccine doses to Bulgaria since they can use them more than us

not all elderly are vaccinated here but we don't care, then we have to keep them locked up

Yes Good Move

[Nicky91]

Yes Good Move

of pfizer that is


so we halt AZ vaccine, and we give pfizer away for free


so no more vaccinating being done for time being now here

[Nicky91]

as for terraces, maybe its better they reopen, otherwise youth go into parks very close to each other within 1.5 metres


i find this whole vaccine thing happening way too fast anyway, i agree with our RIVM what they say they should study the vaccines some more, they don't trust the EMA's reviewing that much now


but yeah if majority of youth want things reopened or been given some ''hope'' well i'd say reopen some things, maybe new cases surge will go up but at least then you've listened to the people and its then the public's own fault



i don't know what goes wrong here, what isn't very much a problem in UK, they should look into that more

[Cherie]

of pfizer that is


so we halt AZ vaccine, and we give pfizer away for free


so no more vaccinating being done for time being now here

Why are you guys not using Pfizer?

[user104658]

Why are you guys not using Pfizer?

Someone once took a dose of Pfizer and then less than 30 minutes later, they stubbed their toe REALLY badly. Like the nail was bleeding and everything, Cherie! So they were going to throw all of the Pfizer into the sea but instead they're giving it away as charity because people living in poverty probably don't even care about stubbed toes idk.

[Nicky91]

Why are you guys not using Pfizer?

since we want to help out the poorer countries

and Bulgaria is worse off than ourselves with even less vaccinations done but they rely more on support from other countries since they cannot afford vaccine themselves


unlike Hungary whom are buying in loads of vaccine doses themselves, one thing i must say Orban does quite well (not a fan of that dictator but it must be mentioned)

[Nicky91]

Someone once took a dose of Pfizer and then less than 30 minutes later, they stubbed their toe REALLY badly. Like the nail was bleeding and everything, Cherie! So they were going to throw all of the Pfizer into the sea but instead they're giving it away as charity because people living in poverty probably don't even care about stubbed toes idk.

No

pfizer is ok, not heard many complaints about that one

[Cherie]

No

pfizer is ok, not heard many complaints about that one

You just said you had stopped vaccinating full stop :laugh:

So you are continuing to vaccinate with Pfizer or no?

[Cherie]

With AZ I cant figure out if other Pharma are unhappy as they are rolling out at cost while Pfizer, Moderna etc is not, or a scapegoat for slow rollout, the EMA should be disbanded at this stage, if EU countries are going to pick and choose when they follow recommendation

[bots]

apparently the UK ploughed millions of pounds into improving the netherlands AZ plant, so if the EU now stop them exporting there is going to be a lot of trouble

[user104658]

With AZ I cant figure out if other Pharma are unhappy as they are rolling out at cost while Pfizer, Moderna etc is not, or a scapegoat for slow rollout, the EMA should be disbanded at this stage, if EU countries are going to pick and choose when they follow recommendation

I can't see it being the former, the scientific breakthroughs that are going to come from the mRNA research and success of Pfizer/Moderna is going to be a Pharma gold rush over the next few decades... the technology is worth infinitely more than the actual vaccine. It's an absolutely massive medical breakthrough.

[Nicky91]

i'd say the blame is on EMA, as they were supposed to give honest and good reviews on the vaccines

they said AZ was ''safe'' and countries like Netherlands, Germany started using them again after that ''good review'' and still we got again under 65 and under 60 respectively with nasty side effects, some even fatal

EU relies on the EMA's expert advice/reviewers so the blame lies there


or not properly been cooled or been handled upon delivery to vaccination posts since here in netherlands what i know, some deliver them in pizza boxes or fastfood boxes

[bots]

people are just not viewing the vaccination programme with any type of perspective, and the singling out of AZ for any attack they can think of is absurd. I would be the first to join in if i thought the concerns were in any way valid, but they just aren't and all the political bods in the EU know this.

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1378258971329499138

yes good move

[Vanessa]

All medicines have risks.
I'll take my chances, i want my life back.

[Vanessa]

If the EU prefers they can use other vaccines.
But they need to vaccinate, it's the only way to control the virus.
Because you can't lockdown forever.

[arista]

If the EU prefers they can use other vaccines.
But they need to vaccinate, it's the only way to control the virus.
Because you can't lockdown forever.


Today France and Italy start their new Lockdowns.

If the Deadly China Covid-19
has a hold over a nation
you can not blame their Lockdowns
to be fair.

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: some of the bigger cities want their terraces reopened


also mayor Aboutaleb (rotterdam) mayor Van Zanen (The Hague) mayor Dijksma (Utrecht) support their amsterdam colleague Halsema


more to stop illegal socializing in parks, and that they can socialize in a normal, proper way within covid guidelines and within 1.5 metres apart from each other

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

7.682 new cases (more or less flattening down around, 7.225 average of new cases this whole week, one week earlier average of 7.221)

243 new hospitalisations 33 less than yesterday (2.348 in total 18 more than yesterdays total 2.330)

734 in total on ICU now (29 more than yesterdays total 705)

31 new deaths

[arista]

Saturday 3/4/21

Today 10 Deaths
3,423 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,536

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
517


126,826 Total UK deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Note for Tomorrow numbers
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/about-data#easter-2021-schedule

Northern Ireland: no cases and deaths data on 4 April

Wales: no data on 2 April and 4 April
(note: cases and deaths data released on 5 April
and 6 April will both cover 48 hour periods)

[Crimson Dynamo]

low2est "death" rate since mid september


we move forward

[Nicky91]

low2est "death" rate since mid september


we move forward

daily deaths numbers aren't really important since they have never been 100% accurate

[Nicky91]

:facepalm:

Netherlands: Alphen doctor accidentally gave 150 patients a double dose of AZ vaccine

[bots]

low2est "death" rate since mid september


we move forward

it's also a holiday weekend, so don't take the figures as gospel. Wednesday, should see some reality. That being said, the death rate is on a downward trend.

[bots]

daily deaths numbers aren't really important since they have never been 100% accurate

the trends are accurate though and the trend is very much downward in the UK and that is mostly due to the vaccination program

[Cherie]

Saturday 27/3/21

Today 58 Died
4,715 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
4,560

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
615


126,573 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Saturday 3/4/21

Today 10 Deaths
3,423 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
3,536

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
517


126,826 Total UK deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Not the best comparison as Welsh figures are not included plus bank holiday yesterday but still

[arista]

Ch4HDnews showed
a Polish Church on Good Friday
in London
was Closed down by Police.

Poxy Vicar
Breaking Covid Rules

[Crimson Dynamo]

On Feb 21 professor Edmunds warned the Andrew Marr show that reopening schools would cause a worrying rise in cases.

Fake news and cases fell

Focussing on projected harm and not actual harm already happening

How many more times has this fear- mongering occurred?

[Vicky.]

daily deaths numbers aren't really important since they have never been 100% accurate

At this stage, the daily death, and hospital numbers are ALL that matters tbh.

(That said are they still using the rather silly 28/60 days after a positive test death for any reason?!)

No idea why your latest fad is to deride the vaccination program, but it WAS our way out tbh, and we are nearly there. Luckily, tbh, as vaccination was quite literally..the last chance. If it didn't work, we were pretty ****ed really.

[bots]

On Feb 21 professor Edmunds warned the Andrew Marr show that reopening schools would cause a worrying rise in cases.

Fake news and cases fell

Focussing on projected harm and not actual harm already happening

How many more times has this fear- mongering occurred?

they keep acting like no-one has been vaccinated, it's mental.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Vicky.]

May 17th?! Need to start saving now :D

[Vicky.]

Genuinely not seeing the need for the **** about with 'vaccine passports' though, nor how it could possibly work if its all on an app given not all have a compatible mobile. Like, if the majority of the country are vaccinated, it doesnt really matter if a few aren't? Isnt that how..all vaccines work really?! Plus...the only people being put at risk by someone not vaccinating themselves..is the person not vaccinated really. And...the unvaccinated are likely to be the younger people at this stage, who would be more likely to have asymtomatic infection in the first place (the thing the vaccine makes happen...so it would possibly happn anyway!) so really, in many the vaccine isn't needed anyway?

Seems a load of pomp. Maybe more willy waving and 'omg look how much we are doing!!" when its unnecessary. As expected, the vaccine was the way out. If the vaccine was NOT the way out, there was not realistic way out besides..more death, or forever lockdown!

[arista]

Its to happen in months, Vicky
we are due to find out on a briefing
on Bank Holiday Monday with the Prime Minister.


https://news.sky.com/story/dates-revealed-for-uks-first-vaccine-passport-events-and-traffic-light-system-for-holidays-12265266

[Vicky.]

In months. So..everyone is basically back to normal by then...and THEN introduce vaccine passports? Seems a bit daft. So makes it even more likely its just...'look, we are taking it seriously this time!!!!" stuff. I mean, I will be able to get one of these by then (cannot book vaccine right now, despite any age being able to book it last week...I just missed out as now they are focussing on second jabs instead!) and likely my phone is up to date enough to have the app...but...I know many who do NOT have phones that can use the app..I know this because of all the fuss about the app last time around :laugh: Mainly older people, who still have sturdy nokias.

[bots]

the big issue with these passports is privacy. People might be willing to do it in the short term, to get back to a more normal life quicker, but there is no way it's sustainable in the long term. Not in a free society

[arista]

the big issue with these passports is privacy. People might be willing to do it in the short term, to get back to a more normal life quicker, but there is no way it's sustainable in the long term. Not in a free society


Yes thats the idea.


The Government has said Essential shops
will not be part of this new pass,
so it's not as bad as, so many are saying.


The Sun, claims it's not for Pubs?

[Nicky91]

Boris also wants those similar field lab test events :clap1: :clap1:


semi finals and final of FA Cup, and the World Cup Snooker



we dutch inspiring the UK :love:

[Vanessa]

I don't think I'll be going to Italy this year anyway.
The situation there with the virus isn't good.
I'll be going somewhere in the UK, probably Bournemouth.

[bots]

i think it's madness to be going abroad this year unless you have to. Europe is a mess and wont be sorted by the summer. There may be some "safe" destinations further afield but they are very sparse

[Vanessa]

i think it's madness to be going abroad this year unless you have to. Europe is a mess and wont be sorted by the summer. There may be some "safe" destinations further afield but they are very sparse

There are so many beautiful places to visit here in the UK.
We can always go abroad next year.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/04/04/12/40950516-9433971-Millions_could_go_to_pubs_with_no_social_distancin g_under_plans_-a-22_1617537421343.jpg


[Michael Gove, who is leading a cross-government
consultation on Covid certificates,
told The Telegraph: 'There is a host of practical
and ethical questions we have to answer before
we can consider a wider rollout']