Coronavirus Outbreak : Plan B

[arista]

Someone just on Ch5HDnews
said trying to get to from Portugal to UK
One Way Cost £600



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[Cherie]

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Simon Calder Independent's Travel Writer
In Green Zone
Gibraltar
not happy he has to pay
another £200 on return for a PCR test.

They have hiked the price, they were never that in Spain...140 euros or less

[arista]

They have hiked the price, they were never that in Spain...140 euros or less


Yes Making Money

[arista]

The New Nepal Variant
it's from the worse Delta (Indian) Variant.

Delta is up now Up 79% on last week
Cases of the Delta are now at 12,431 (Ch5HDnews)


Shapps MP
mentioned the New Nepal one
as they are trying to Protect the UK Roadmap
we all find out on the Monday 14th of June.

If Monday 21st June is to go ahead.

[bots]

i checked the authorised list today for travel tests and they are £48-50 not 200, thats complete rubbish. Here are the first few on the list

https://i.imgur.com/el2aBUZ.png


https://www.find-travel-test-provider.service.gov.uk/test-type/green

[arista]

"not 200,"


Look Simon Calder said it himself Live on BBCnewsHD

[bots]

"not 200,"


Look Simon Calder said it himself Live on BBCnewsHD

ive added the link, check it yourself, its not 200

[arista]

ive added the link, check it yourself, its not 200


Yes I looked

But Its what came out of his Gob.

[bots]

Yes I looked

But Its what came out of his Gob.

yeah but it's wrong Arista

[arista]

yeah but it's wrong Arista


Send him a Email.


Now MOVE ON

[MTVN]

Can't imagine Simon would have got it wrong, aristas dodgy hearing to blame I reckon

[arista]

Can't imagine Simon would have got it wrong, aristas dodgy hearing to blame I reckon


No he Said £200

I have subtitles on as well
with so many
Live News Feed

[Nicky91]

can't believe my nation is almost below 1.000 hospitalisations :flutter:




NL there has been a debate here either in our parliament, health minister Hugo de Jonge was also talking about vaccine passport, the options of either proof of vaccination, proof of negative test result, proof of having recovered of covid recently (so having antibodies in your system) so also for those who refuse vaccine having some options to show proof when going on holiday in another country or foreigners coming to our nation on holiday, and those whom are not vaccinated, then you can enter only on negative test result paperwork

[arista]

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https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/03/16/43795075-9647331-image-a-7_1622733442407.jpg

[Everest climbers could have spread 'potentially more
infectious AND vaccine resistant' Nepal Covid variant across
the world after it was first found in 13 travelers on flights
from Himalaya to Japan]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9647331/Nepal-Covid-variant-20-Britons-mutated-version-Indian-strain.html

[Zizu]

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https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/03/16/43795075-9647331-image-a-7_1622733442407.jpg

[Everest climbers could have spread 'potentially more
infectious AND vaccine resistant' Nepal Covid variant across
the world after it was first found in 13 travelers on flights
from Himalaya to Japan]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9647331/Nepal-Covid-variant-20-Britons-mutated-version-Indian-strain.html



They should find ‘em , fly them all back there and dump them on the mountainside :)


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[arista]

Thursday 6/3/21

18 Died
5,274 Have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
919


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
129


127,812 Total UK deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

How has the UK 20 cases of the Nepal variant when Nepal has just one :fist:

[Cherie]

Thursday 27/5/21

10 Died
3,542 Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
916

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
125


127,758 Total UK Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Thursday 6/3/21

18 Died
5,274 Have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
919


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
129


127,812 Total UK deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[UserSince2005]

We need Mykonos on the green list now!!!

[Zizu]

Thursday 6/3/21

18 Died
5,274 Have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
919


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
129


127,812 Total UK deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/



Over 5000 new cases !!

Jesus wept .. I’ve clearly taken my eye off the ball .. weren’t we down to about 2,000 a few days ago ?!


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[arista]

Over 5000 new cases !!

Jesus wept .. I’ve clearly taken my eye off the ball .. weren’t we down to about 2,000 a few days ago ?!




Yes so many Sports events
no masks

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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Now Named


Delta+K471N
(Indian merged into Nepal)


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9649749/Britons-Portugal-fume-told-dash-home-4am-Tuesday-face-quarantine.html

[Cherie]

I am sure it’s the same people who complained it took too long to put India on the red list, but because they want to go to Portugal or are in Portugal now they are all up in arms

[user104658]

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27/5/21 - 3/6/21

Deaths
10 - 18 up 80%

New cases
3,542 - 5274 up 49%

Cases requiring hospital
916 - 919 up 0.3%

Patients on ventilation
125 - 129 up 3.2%


Deaths: COULD be due to catchup from the bank holiday weekend; we all know that Monday was not zero and this highlights the utter nonsense of pretending it was for a "feel good factor" at the time, both conversationally and in the press. It wasn't zero, we knew that deep down, there was always going to be a catchup effect, and that was always going to sting.

Hospitalisations and ventilator: The best we can say is that they've plateau'd. These aren't meaningful increases, but they're not drops, which we were regularly seeing week-on-week for a while and it's disappointing not to still be seeing them.

Cases: Dire, in all honesty. They could be down to increased surge testing in suspect variant areas but at this point I don't think we can assume it's just that. This is likely to be reflected, at least partially, in hospital & death figures over the next couple of weeks.

[Nicky91]

haven't heard anything on the news here in my nation about this new variant

[user104658]

People/papers still banging on about holidays have some serious cognitive dissonance going on IMO. There are strong indications that summer is ****ed. You might not be going to the beach 10 miles down the road, let alone getting on a plane. Have people not realised this? :think:.

[Nicky91]

27/5/21 - 3/6/21

Deaths
10 - 18 up 80%

New cases
3,542 - 5274 up 49%

Cases requiring hospital
916 - 919 up 0.3%

Patients on ventilation
125 - 129 up 3.2%


Deaths: COULD be due to catchup from the bank holiday weekend; we all know that Monday was not zero and this highlights the utter nonsense of pretending it was for a "feel good factor" at the time, both conversationally and in the press. It wasn't zero, we knew that deep down, there was always going to be a catchup effect, and that was always going to sting.

Hospitalisations and ventilator: The best we can say is that they've plateau'd. These aren't meaningful increases, but they're not drops, which we were regularly seeing week-on-week for a while and it's disappointing not to still be seeing them.

Cases: Dire, in all honesty. They could be down to increased surge testing in suspect variant areas but at this point I don't think we can assume it's just that. This is likely to be reflected, at least partially, in hospital & death figures over the next couple of weeks.

i know we shouldn't but comparing UK to my nation NL

our deaths have somewhat plateau'd between 12-14

our hospitalisations well they are nice and steadily going down, also am seeing a decrease in daily new hospitalisations

our ICU going down quite steadily now, at least more room to relax into mid 300, rather than stress when it reaches max capacity mid 800


our Cases, steadily plateauing in 2.000's would love for this one to go down more, but at least our R-number is below 1, at 0.85 so that's good



where is the UK's R number at? 1 or above is bad, so it needs to be below that for cases to decrease, chance of infection to decrease

[Cherie]

I think alot of this is that due to the Government wanting people to holiday at home and boost the economy, taking Portugal off the green list just 3 weeks after it went on will make people nervous, the majority of people who are on holiday out there are retirees who have had both jabs and can afford to isolate at home when they come back, I have no sympathy I am afraid, but for families that are thinking about going in July and August, this is a heads up so again no sympathy

[bots]

what annoys me is on the one hand we have people screaming to keep our borders tight and then probably the same people are moaning when they cant go on holiday.

I'm all for them being careful personally, but if we have learnt anything, it is that when a more transmissible variant comes along it spreads across the world no matter what border controls are in place. With a very transmissible variant it just spreads no matter what anyone does, so, i'm coming to the conclusion that border restrictions are just not worth it.

[arista]

haven't heard anything on the news here in my nation about this new variant


Look you are a small nation
why should you

[arista]

People/papers still banging on about holidays have some serious cognitive dissonance going on IMO. There are strong indications that summer is ****ed. You might not be going to the beach 10 miles down the road, let alone getting on a plane. Have people not realised this? :think:.



Yes they are like babies
Holiday Holiday Holiday.


Blame Simon Calder

[arista]

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He is an MP
Bollocks to the 10 days

[arista]

TS


Australia They will not let ANYONE in until Next Year
that's very tough on a Mother
who wants to Fly back in.
(Ref: NewsnightHD BBC2)

[smudgie]

The papers banging on about the whingeing people that risk going on holiday and then have to quarantine don’t help.
But really, people think having a holiday abroad is that important?
Selfish stupid twits.:fist:

[arista]

The papers banging on about the whingeing people that risk going on holiday and then have to quarantine don’t help.
But really, people think having a holiday abroad is that important?
Selfish stupid twits.:fist:


Yes The Cost for a Family on Tests
is high

[arista]

Thismorning ITV1HD

Showed a New Super Fast Jet Design

But United Airlines
are not putting enough money into the project.
In all the Business reports on it.

[Vanessa]

People/papers still banging on about holidays have some serious cognitive dissonance going on IMO. There are strong indications that summer is ****ed. You might not be going to the beach 10 miles down the road, let alone getting on a plane. Have people not realised this? :think:.

I'm not going abroad. It's just too much hassle.
Maybe next year.

[arista]

The Pfizer Vaccine is now being considered
for 12 -17 year olds in the UK,
The Government will update soon.


BBC

[Cherie]

The Pfizer Vaccine is now being considered
for 12 -17 year olds in the UK,
The Government will update soon.


BBC

it's coming make no mistake, although didn't they report this am that Pfizer isn't that effective against the some variant or other, I have lost track :laugh:

[arista]

it's coming make no mistake, although didn't they report this am that Pfizer isn't that effective against the some variant or other, I have lost track :laugh:


Yes one newspaper
claims a report says on Delta but that with Adults

[AnnieK]

I feel for people who have family abroad who they haven't seen and at the moment have no prospect of seeing.

I wasn't going to go abroad this year even if they opened it right up so it doesn't affect me and I don't feel a whole lot of sympathy for people who just want to holiday but for people who have legitimate reasons for travelling, it is frustrating.

What's worse though is that yes it will improve our tourism economy with people staycationing but it the prices of hotels and holidays parks have now skyrocketed so it is pricing a lot of people out of a holiday completely.

[Zizu]

it's coming make no mistake, although didn't they report this am that Pfizer isn't that effective against the some variant or other, I have lost track :laugh:



Only slightly reduced antibodies or something but that’s only after ONE Pfizer jab .. after two you’re good to go ..

As I understand things


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The new lab data from the Francis Crick Institute and the National Institute for Health Research (NIHR) UCLH Biomedical Research Centre also supports current plans to reduce the dose gap between vaccines.

People who have one Pfizer dose are less likely to develop antibody levels against the Indian - Delta - variant that are as high as those seen for the Kent - Alpha - variant.

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[bots]

thats why the decision was taken to shorten the jab gap and speed up the process generally. So far, from a vaccination standpoint, the government has had the right strategy. We just have to wait and see how things pan out

[Vanessa]

I miss my family, but I would rather wait until it's safer to travel.
I can always go on holiday here in the UK.
There are so many places worth visiting.

[Cherie]

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Only slightly reduced antibodies or something but that’s only after ONE Pfizer jab .. after two you’re good to go ..

As I understand things


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The new lab data from the Francis Crick Institute and the National Institute for Health Research (NIHR) UCLH Biomedical Research Centre also supports current plans to reduce the dose gap between vaccines.

People who have one Pfizer dose are less likely to develop antibody levels against the Indian - Delta - variant that are as high as those seen for the Kent - Alpha - variant.

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Thats not what is being reported, we are doomed, you have cracked me Zizu I am officially a glass half empty person from now on

[bots]

Prof Sir Munir Pirmohamed, who chairs the Commission on Human Medicines which is a committee of the MHRA, said more than 2,000 children between the ages of 12 and 15 were studied in randomised, placebo-controlled clinical trials.

There were no cases of Covid-19 from seven days after the second dose in the vaccinated group, compared with 16 cases in the placebo group, he said.

"In addition, data on neutralising antibodies showed the vaccine working at the same level as seen in adults aged 16-25 years. These are extremely positive results.”

[arista]

Typical in Nepal
they claim there is no new Variant.


How the hell would they know
it has jumped back into India and Japan.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/03/23/43800421-9649749-image-a-14_1622758291717.jpg

[bots]

the WHO were denying all knowledge of the Nepal variant yesterday, so give Nepal a break

[arista]

the WHO were denying all knowledge of the Nepal variant yesterday, so give Nepal a break


Thats OK
give them a few days.

[Zizu]

Thats not what is being reported, we are doomed, you have cracked me Zizu I am officially a glass half empty person from now on



It’s simple scaremongering really .. the headline is initially disturbing but when you dig deeper it’s only a slight, possible issue and even that only applies to those who’ve only had the one dose so far


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[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

2.440 new cases 345 less than yesterday

1.065 total hospitalisations (yesterday was 1.098) 63 new hospitalisations 11 less than yesterday

377 total ICU patients (yesterday was 394) 14 new ICU patients 4 more than yesterday

8 new deaths

[bots]

It’s simple scaremongering really .. the headline is initially disturbing but when you dig deeper it’s only a slight, possible issue and even that only applies to those who’ve only had the one dose so far


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i know you are a natural worrier, but that is being fed by the media. We will have new variants all the time, thats just how virus's are, they mutate. We may at some point in the future get a nasty variant, but the same is true of flu or any other virus. The point now is that we have the mechanisms to adapt the vaccine, we have a great test environment here in the uk, and we have a vaccine rollout mechanism now tried and tested. We are in a much better position than we were in january

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: cafes, events face staff shortages

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/06/cafes-restaurants-and-events-face-staff-shortages-as-lockdown-eases/


Café and restaurant owners, and event organisers are among the employers who are worried about the shortage of staff, now that the Netherlands is beginning to get back to normal.

During the lockdown, many people found work elsewhere and companies are struggling to fill vacancies, website Nu.nl reported.

Berend Schans of festival and concert organiser association VNPF said he fears that thousands of vacancies will be unfilled once mass events can be organised again from the end of the month.

And bars and restaurants, where staff are often on freelance or zero hour contracts, are also facing shortages because people have found work in other sectors.

‘Employers are concerned about staffing levels when the sector fully opens again,’ hospitality industry body KHN told Nu.nl. ‘37% say they don’t expect it will be easy to find staff and 21% think there will be a shortage of personnel.’

State jobs agency UWV has also noted a sharp rise in the number of listed vacancies for café and restaurant staff.

‘There is a lot of competition,’ UWV labour market specialist Rob Witjes said. ‘Employers who kept in touch with their staff during the lockdown will find it easier to tempt them back, but those that didn’t will find it hard.’

Vacancies

According to the Financieele Dagblad, some 500,000 people worked in the hospitality industry before the start of the crisis and a further 100,000 in the events sector.

A spokesman for small firms organisation MKB-Nederland told the paper that there are currently 250,000 job vacancies in the Netherlands, a rise of 50,000 on the same period last year.

The cleaning sector has also been hit by a shortage of workers, now that holiday parks, schools and offices are opening again. ‘And competition with cafes and the retail sector is making it even harder to find people,’ John van Hoof, chairman of cleaning company CSU, said.

Unemployment

The Dutch official unemployment rate fell to 3.6% in the first three months of 2021, due to a combination of more people finding work, and an increase in people stopping looking for work altogether, the national statistics agency CBS said last month.

The official rate had reached a pandemic high of 4.6% last August, but has been falling steadily since then.

The CBS figures also show that of the nine million people with a job, 1.7 million had a flexible or short-term contract. That is down 122,000 on the same period in 2020.
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[Scarlett.]

6k new cases today, not to sound overly pessemstic, but it feels like this new strain is about to hit exponential growth

[arista]

Friday 4/6/21

11 Died
6,238 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
954

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
134



127,823 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Cherie]

Friday 7/5/21

15 have Died today
2,490 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,231


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
163


127,598 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Friday 4/6/21

11 Died
6,238 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
954

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
134



127,823 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Figures from a month ago

[Cherie]

Friday 28/5/21

10 Died today.
4,182 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
889


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
120


127,768 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Friday 4/6/21

11 Died
6,238 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
954

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
134



127,823 Total UK Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Last Fridays figures, slight rise in hospitalisations

[arista]

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9650283/Pfizer-vaccine-recipients-lower-antibodies-targeting-Indian-variant-study.html

[R rate rises to between 1 and 1.2
Pfizer vaccine produces fewer antibody
levels Indian variant than those against previously
circulating strains
Joint study also suggests levels of antibodies
are lower with increasing age,
and that levels decline over time
Researchers say this provides extra evidence
in support of plans to deliver a vaccine booster in the autumn
But it could also fuel concern that the
Pfizer vaccine is less effective in preventing
serious illness with Delta
It comes as PHE said the Indian variant appears
more likely to put people in hospital than other strains]

[Cherie]

Coronavirus cases in the community rocketed by 76.5% in just one week, official data for England indicates.
The Office for National Statistics (ONS) estimates that 85,600 people in the country had COVID-19 in the week to May 29 - equating to around one in 640 people in private households.
This is the highest level since the week to 16 April and is up from 48,500 people - one in 1,120 people - in the week ending 22 May.
Live COVID updates from the UK and around the world
The percentage of people testing positive for COVID-19 is estimated to have increased in the North West, the East Midlands and South West.

[Cherie]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/04/08/article-9650283-43822555-312_964x543.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9650283/Pfizer-vaccine-recipients-lower-antibodies-targeting-Indian-variant-study.html

[R rate rises to between 1 and 1.2
Pfizer vaccine produces fewer antibody
levels Indian variant than those against previously
circulating strains
Joint study also suggests levels of antibodies
are lower with increasing age,
and that levels decline over time
Researchers say this provides extra evidence
in support of plans to deliver a vaccine booster in the autumn
But it could also fuel concern that the
Pfizer vaccine is less effective in preventing
serious illness with Delta
It comes as PHE said the Indian variant appears
more likely to put people in hospital than other strains]

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Think they will have to boost with a different vaccine to the first one given in the Autumn

[Zizu]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/04/08/article-9650283-43822555-312_964x543.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9650283/Pfizer-vaccine-recipients-lower-antibodies-targeting-Indian-variant-study.html

[R rate rises to between 1 and 1.2
Pfizer vaccine produces fewer antibody
levels Indian variant than those against previously
circulating strains
Joint study also suggests levels of antibodies
are lower with increasing age,
and that levels decline over time
Researchers say this provides extra evidence
in support of plans to deliver a vaccine booster in the autumn
But it could also fuel concern that the
Pfizer vaccine is less effective in preventing
serious illness with Delta
It comes as PHE said the Indian variant appears
more likely to put people in hospital than other strains]



The key part of the story is omitted from the opening headline grabber ..

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Having TWO doses of a Covid vaccine slashes the risk of being admitted to hospital with the Indian variant by 93 per cent to less than one in a thousand but unvaccinated people are at a higher risk than in earlier waves.

The proof that the jab works will put ministers in a dilemma ahead of June 21's 'Freedom Day' as experts warn TWO doses are essential for protection against the strain and a single jab could be up to 20 per cent less effective against it.


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[Zizu]

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Think they will have to boost with a different vaccine to the first one given in the Autumn



Yeah they’ve been hinting at that for a while haven’t they ..


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[arista]

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[UK's daily Covid infections rise AGAIN to 6,238 - 1,000 more
than yesterday: Fears for Freedom Day after
government sources admitted they would
be 'concerned' if cases went over 5,000
It marked the first time daily infections have
risen above 6,000 since March 26 when
there were more curbs
And the second day in a row that cases
have been above 5,000,
Department of Health figures showed
England's June 21 Freedom Day now
appears to be hanging in the balance amid
spread of Indian variant
Office for National Statistics report today
showed weekly Covid cases spiked 75 per cent
last week to 86,000
Daily Covid infections have been rising steadily
since late May when there were 2,500 a day on average]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9652813/UKs-daily-Covid-infections-rise-6-238-11-deaths-recorded.html

[Zizu]

Bloke on Sky News talking about Germany starting to vaccinate teenagers and suggesting that we are considering the same route .

Then he said very matter of factly ... “ we know that school children have been spreading the illness but they simply haven’t been getting poorly from it ... until now “


All last year and this - all of us ( working in education) were being constantly reassured that the pupils weren’t spreading it and the staff were no more at risk than a shop assistant or someone in an office and we had no cause for concern ..

:(


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[bots]

kids can catch covid the same way someone vaccinated can catch covid, but their viral load is very small because they have antibodies to fight it off, so they dont pass the infection on the same way older unvaccinated adults do.

There is so much scaremongering going on

[Zizu]

Sky News now ..
North West easily the worst effected region

ONS stats show that across the country the virus is most common in young people particularly secondary school age children :(


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[Zizu]

kids can catch covid the same way someone vaccinated can catch covid, but their viral load is very small because they have antibodies to fight it off, so they dont pass the infection on the same way older unvaccinated adults do.



There is so much scaremongering going on



So you think the schools will reopen AND stay open after next week !?

I mean if they don’t pass it on ...


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[AnnieK]

So you think the schools will reopen AND stay open after next week !?

I mean if they don’t pass it on ...


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They won't shut schools again this school year imo unless hospitalisations suddenly shoot up. There is only 6 weeks left and unless there is evidence that schools are getting riddled with it again, there will be uproar if they close them again

[Zizu]

They won't shut schools again this school year imo unless hospitalisations suddenly shoot up. There is only 6 weeks left and unless there is evidence that schools are getting riddled with it again, there will be uproar if they close them again



Sky just saying now that the headmasters and government are already panicking as they’re not sure how to keep the staff safe in this new wave ... spreading through the young folk ...despite someone just suggesting that youngsters can’t pass it on ..


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Nicky91]

Netherlands: more covid measures relaxed

theatres, cinema's, museums have reopened

and bars & restaurants can receive visitors indoors again too

closing time for bars, pubs, restaurants is now bit later, 22:00

casino's, wellness centres, sauna's have reopened

amateur team sports are allowed again as well without 1.5 metre distance, competition matches not yet though


at home, now 4 guests welcome, that were first 2 guests

[arista]

SkyNewsHD has reporter outside a New Bolton
Vaccine Centre.

But not many are going to it?

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

2.160 new cases

1.009 total hospitalisations 76 new hospitalisations 13 more than yesterday

351 total ICU patients 7 new ICU patients 7 less than yesterday

9 new deaths

[Cherie]

https://www.england.nhs.uk/2021/06/sharp-rise-in-people-overcoming-hesitancy-and-saying-yes-to-the-lifesaving-covid-19-jab/

.

[Cherie]

France will welcome fully vaccinated Brits from Weds with a negative test, they will still need to isolate for 10 days on return and test 3 times

[Zizu]

https://www.england.nhs.uk/2021/06/sharp-rise-in-people-overcoming-hesitancy-and-saying-yes-to-the-lifesaving-covid-19-jab/



.



Looks like the younger ones are finally getting the message ...


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[Zizu]

SkyNewsHD has reporter outside a New Bolton
Vaccine Centre.

But not many are going to it?



That’s soo confusing given Bolton is arguably the worst hit place in the uk


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[DouglasS]

Seems getting vaccinated is pointless if we can’t control the borders because vaccine resistant variants seem to become dominant quickly

[bots]

Seems getting vaccinated is pointless if we can’t control the borders because vaccine resistant variants seem to become dominant quickly

the variants are already spread across the world before they are identified. Strict controls at ports may slow it down, but it doesn't stop it and when we have freight coming in and out which we need for our ongoing survival, it's just inevitable

[arista]

Seems getting vaccinated is pointless if we can’t control the borders because vaccine resistant variants seem to become dominant quickly


But there will be a 3rd injection
to cover that.

[bots]

That’s soo confusing given Bolton is arguably the worst hit place in the uk


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they had a vaccine drive there a few weeks ago where people were queuing for miles to get the vaccine, it's probably simply that most have now already been vaccinated

[bots]

Someone on my brothers return plane tested positive so he is now in isolation for 10 days even although he tested fine, to say he is pissed off would be an understatement :laugh:

[Cherie]

Someone on my brothers return plane tested positive so he is now in isolation for 10 days even although he tested fine, to say he is pissed off would be an understatement :laugh:

omg did he come back early or was he due back anyway?

[bots]

omg did he come back early or was he due back anyway?

he was due back anyway, but i think that shows clearly the problem that there is even travelling to a green country, so I won't be thinking of overseas travel any time soon

[arista]

Saturday 5/6/21

13 Died
5,765 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
932

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
134


127,836

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

he was due back anyway, but i think that shows clearly the problem that there is even travelling to a green country, so I won't be thinking of overseas travel any time soon

true, didn't think about anyone testing positive afterwards and the inevitable quarantine

[Cherie]

Saturday 29/5/21

7 have Died
3,398 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
870

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
120


127,775 Total UK deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Saturday 5/6/21

13 Died
5,765 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
932

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
134


127,836

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

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[Vanessa]

I think the numbers are fine.
It was always going to go up a bit since we have reopened.
We just need to keep up with vaccinations.
The sooner we finish the sooner we're protected.

[Zizu]

.



80% increase in infections a week later ?

Apparently infections are nothing to worry about though ... apparently




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[bots]

i think vaccination is working well, without that, i think the numbers would have gone through the roof

[Vanessa]

i think vaccination is working well, without that, i think the numbers would have gone through the roof
I think vaccination is helping to keep the virus under control.
It's working so far.

[Nicky91]

yes vaccination helps, i'm not getting that myself, but i'm also not a anti-vaxxer either



which is why here in my nation you see numbers going down, the more important numbers that is Hospitalisations, ICU totals


cannot believe we are almost under 1.000 hospitalisations :flutter:

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/05/15/43866239-9655203-image-a-25_1622903679441.jpg
[Holidaymakers today jammed Faro airport
in a bid to fly home from Portugal
before Tuesday's 4am quarantine deadline]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/05/15/43866345-9655203-image-a-31_1622903945810.jpg
Covid-19 tests before
flying home from Portugal]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9655203/Holidaymakers-jam-Faro-airport-fly-home-Portugal-Tuesday-4am-deadline.html

[Cherie]

80% increase in infections a week later ?

Apparently infections are nothing to worry about though ... apparently




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I had a look back on the thread from last year we were running at 155 deaths per day on 7 July and we were in a similar point of easing

[Cherie]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/05/15/43866239-9655203-image-a-25_1622903679441.jpg
[Holidaymakers today jammed Faro airport
in a bid to fly home from Portugal
before Tuesday's 4am quarantine deadline]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2021/06/05/15/43866345-9655203-image-a-31_1622903945810.jpg
Covid-19 tests before
flying home from Portugal]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9655203/Holidaymakers-jam-Faro-airport-fly-home-Portugal-Tuesday-4am-deadline.html

Fools :hehe:

[MTVN]

I have got a ticket to the test match next Thursday :hee: trial event with 18,000 fans. Have to take 3 tests in all - one lateral flow test within 24 hours before, one a couple days after and also a PCR test to be done in the days after. Seems a lot just to watch a day of cricket in the open air but guess this might become regular for big events

[Cherie]

I have got a ticket to the test match next Thursday :hee: trial event with 18,000 fans. Have to take 3 tests in all - one lateral flow test within 24 hours before, one a couple days after and also a PCR test to be done in the days after. Seems a lot just to watch a day of cricket in the open air but guess this might become regular for big events

Cool, the lateral flow tests are no bother to do anyway

[Cherie]

now known as Delta is rising but not "very significantly," the boss of NHS Providers has said.
Chris Hopson said many of those in hospital in Bolton - the area worst hit by the variant - were younger, with "very few" fully vaccinated patients.
He said this appeared to show vaccines had "broken the chain" between infection and serious illness.
But a scientist pointed to "concerning signs" of the variant's spread.
Another 5,765 infections were recorded in the UK on Saturday, and another 13 deaths were recorded within 28 days of a positive test.
The recent surge in cases is being partly driven by the increased transmissibility of the Delta variant, which was first identified in India.
Mr Hopson said that in Bolton, people in hospital with Covid were "a lot younger" than patients in earlier stages of the pandemic, which meant there was "less demand on critical care".
He added that there were "very, very few" people in hospital who had had both doses of a Covid vaccine, as they had the "build-up of protection after those jabs".

BBC

[MTVN]

Cool, the lateral flow tests are no bother to do anyway

Yeah I ordered them yesterday afternoon and they arrived this morning as well which I was quite impressed with

Just terrified they will now reveal I do in fact have covid though and I miss out :worry:

[Scarlett.]

Been having to self test at work this week, the tests make me wanna sneeze xD

[Vanessa]

I feel safe travelling in the UK, but that's about it.

[Cherie]

Yeah I ordered them yesterday afternoon and they arrived this morning as well which I was quite impressed with

Just terrified they will now reveal I do in fact have covid though and I miss out :worry:

You will be fine :laugh: maybe do one today to take the pressure off there are 7 in the box

Been having to self test at work this week, the tests make me wanna sneeze xD

Yeah not the nicest but it’s reassuring as well when no second line appears

[Vanessa]

I've seen the free rapid tests at my local pharmacy.
But they aren't accurate, are they?

[Scarlett.]

They're a decent enough indicator if you have possibly been in contact, but they're not super reliable

[Zizu]

Been having to self test at work this week, the tests make me wanna sneeze xD



Yes !
I do both nostrils rather than throat plus one nostril and I sneeze 9 out of every 10 times


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[Cherie]

I've seen the free rapid tests at my local pharmacy.
But they aren't accurate, are they?

You are meant to test yourself twice a week if you are working ..better than nothing

[arista]

[Covid cases have risen by 70% week-on-week,
today reaching 5,765 up from 3,398 last Saturday
Deaths also increased today to 13 up from just
seven on Saturday last week — a rise of 85.7 per cent]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9655193/Covid-cases-soar-70-cent-week-5-765.html

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[arista]

[COVID-19: 'Time to distinguish' between those who
have and have not had a vaccine, Tony Blair says]


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-time-to-distinguish-between-those-who-have-and-have-not-had-a-vaccine-tony-blair-says-12325869

[Nicky91]

Taiwan will get 750.000 vaccine doses from US

https://www.euronews.com/2021/06/06/us-taiwan-usa-vaccines

[bots]

[COVID-19: 'Time to distinguish' between those who
have and have not had a vaccine, Tony Blair says]


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-time-to-distinguish-between-those-who-have-and-have-not-had-a-vaccine-tony-blair-says-12325869

i agree with him on this. Applying the same testing and isolation requirements on those fully vaccinated as they do to someone unvaccinated is completely stupid.

[user104658]

In response to his remarks, a senior government source told the PA news agency: "Once again Mr Blair appears to have learned of things already in the pipeline and decided to publicly call for them.

"It's becoming something of a habit. Nonetheless we thank him for his continued support."

:joker: so salty

[Zizu]

:joker: so salty



... and accurate


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[bots]

tony blair is just desperate to keep being relevant. However the current labour party make it easy for him to do because they are completely incompetent

[bots]

American author Naomi Wolf has been suspended from Twitter after spreading vaccine misinformation.

Dr Wolf, well known for her acclaimed third-wave feminist book The Beauty Myth, posted a wide-range of unfounded theories about vaccines.

One tweet claimed that vaccines were a "software platform that can receive uploads".

She also compared Dr Anthony Fauci, the top Covid adviser in the US, to "Satan" to her more than 140,000 followers.

Most recently, she tweeted that the urine and faeces of people who had received the jab needed to be separated from general sewage supplies while tests were done to measure its impact on non-vaccinated people through drinking water.
On the topic of children wearing masks, she tweeted that she was "seeing kids with their lower faces hanging inertly, absolutely unmoving facial muscles, when they take their masks off".

Dr Wolf was also duped into tweeting a made up quote on an image of an American adult film star dressed up as a doctor.

Her suspension has been welcomed by many on the platform.

Professor Gavin Yamey tweeted that he was "pleased", adding that "Dr Wolf peddles horrific, dangerous anti-vaxx nonsense".

But some have voiced concern that her suspension was stifling free speech.

Journalist Mary Beth Pfeiffer said Dr Wolf "raised damn good questions about the rush to and ramifications of mass vax. This is unAmerican silencing of dissent".

In 2019, the US publisher of a book by Dr Wolf cancelled its release after accuracy concerns were raised.

During a BBC radio interview, it came to light that the author had misunderstood key 19th Century English legal terms within the book.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57374241

[Nicky91]

American author Naomi Wolf has been suspended from Twitter after spreading vaccine misinformation.

Dr Wolf, well known for her acclaimed third-wave feminist book The Beauty Myth, posted a wide-range of unfounded theories about vaccines.

One tweet claimed that vaccines were a "software platform that can receive uploads".

She also compared Dr Anthony Fauci, the top Covid adviser in the US, to "Satan" to her more than 140,000 followers.

Most recently, she tweeted that the urine and faeces of people who had received the jab needed to be separated from general sewage supplies while tests were done to measure its impact on non-vaccinated people through drinking water.
On the topic of children wearing masks, she tweeted that she was "seeing kids with their lower faces hanging inertly, absolutely unmoving facial muscles, when they take their masks off".

Dr Wolf was also duped into tweeting a made up quote on an image of an American adult film star dressed up as a doctor.

Her suspension has been welcomed by many on the platform.

Professor Gavin Yamey tweeted that he was "pleased", adding that "Dr Wolf peddles horrific, dangerous anti-vaxx nonsense".

But some have voiced concern that her suspension was stifling free speech.

Journalist Mary Beth Pfeiffer said Dr Wolf "raised damn good questions about the rush to and ramifications of mass vax. This is unAmerican silencing of dissent".

In 2019, the US publisher of a book by Dr Wolf cancelled its release after accuracy concerns were raised.

During a BBC radio interview, it came to light that the author had misunderstood key 19th Century English legal terms within the book.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57374241

whom is this vile woman, and poor Fauci being insulted that horrible by some irrelevant hag

[Cherie]

American author Naomi Wolf has been suspended from Twitter after spreading vaccine misinformation.

Dr Wolf, well known for her acclaimed third-wave feminist book The Beauty Myth, posted a wide-range of unfounded theories about vaccines.

One tweet claimed that vaccines were a "software platform that can receive uploads".

She also compared Dr Anthony Fauci, the top Covid adviser in the US, to "Satan" to her more than 140,000 followers.

Most recently, she tweeted that the urine and faeces of people who had received the jab needed to be separated from general sewage supplies while tests were done to measure its impact on non-vaccinated people through drinking water.
On the topic of children wearing masks, she tweeted that she was "seeing kids with their lower faces hanging inertly, absolutely unmoving facial muscles, when they take their masks off".

Dr Wolf was also duped into tweeting a made up quote on an image of an American adult film star dressed up as a doctor.

Her suspension has been welcomed by many on the platform.

Professor Gavin Yamey tweeted that he was "pleased", adding that "Dr Wolf peddles horrific, dangerous anti-vaxx nonsense".

But some have voiced concern that her suspension was stifling free speech.

Journalist Mary Beth Pfeiffer said Dr Wolf "raised damn good questions about the rush to and ramifications of mass vax. This is unAmerican silencing of dissent".

In 2019, the US publisher of a book by Dr Wolf cancelled its release after accuracy concerns were raised.

During a BBC radio interview, it came to light that the author had misunderstood key 19th Century English legal terms within the book.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57374241

:joker: it is true they are now able to pinpoint areas where the virus is rising by analysing waste water maybe she got confused

[arista]

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[Liam-]

They obviously can’t be mandatory, but there should definitely be social sanctions against those that refuse to have it, they shouldn’t be allowed to fly for example

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

1.596 new cases 549 less than yesterday (last 7 days average of positive tests at 2.287, that is 24% less than week before)

998 total hospitalisations

344 total ICU patients

3 new deaths

[Nicky91]

my nation's daily new cases of today is lowest since September 16th


last 7 days death average is around 8, while one week before that average was around 11

[arista]

Sunday 6/6/21

4 Died
5,341 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
932


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
134


127,840 UK Total Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Sunday 30/5/21

6 have Died
3,240 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
870

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
120


127,781 Total UK Covid-19 Deaths.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Sunday 6/6/21

4 Died
5,341 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
932


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
134


127,840 UK Total Deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

.

[arista]

A few more Thousands
rises in cases.


Due to the Delta Variant
I would think.

[Zizu]

.



Infections up by around 80% on last week

Hospitalisations and patients needing ventilation looks to be around 9% up on the week


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[Cherie]

Infections up by around 80% on last week

Hospitalisations and patients needing ventilation looks to be around 9% up on the week


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Hancock said on Marr hospital admissions are flat and most do not need critical care as they are younger

a 14 person increase in a week is not massive by any stretch

[bots]

i think its crazy to talk about % increases on what are tiny numbers ... it's scaremongering as usual. As long as the hospitalisations and deaths remain at manageable levels, everything is fine.

Lets not forget that lockdowns etc were to stop the NHS being overwhelmed, and its nowhere close to being under pressure at the moment

[Zizu]

i think its crazy to talk about % increases on what are tiny numbers ... it's scaremongering as usual. As long as the hospitalisations and deaths remain at manageable levels, everything is fine.



Lets not forget that lockdowns etc were to stop the NHS being overwhelmed, and its nowhere close to being under pressure at the moment



It’s a fair point but those % were over just 7 days - I dread to think what the % rate would be over a year.




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[user104658]

i think its crazy to talk about % increases on what are tiny numbers ... it's scaremongering as usual. As long as the hospitalisations and deaths remain at manageable levels, everything is fine.

Lets not forget that lockdowns etc were to stop the NHS being overwhelmed, and its nowhere close to being under pressure at the moment


I agree to an extent, anything from 0-30 at the moment could be down to reporting or anything really. If we start creeping over 50 again though... that’s obviously significant.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Zizu]

136,000 people in the North West are living with long Covid, including 48,000 who've had it for more than a year, according to an analysis of figures from @ONS


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[Cherie]

136,000 people in the North West are living with long Covid, including 48,000 who've had it for more than a year, according to an analysis of figures from @ONS


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bound to be a few swizzers in there, like a bad back who can say you don't suffer from long covid as one of the main symptoms is fatigue!

[user104658]

136,000 people in the North West are living with long Covid, including 48,000 who've had it for more than a year, according to an analysis of figures from @ONS


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This is very difficult to quantify; it's not a nailed-down set of symptoms and isn't something that's actually testable or measurable... mostly it describes symptoms that weren't present before and then "never went away" in a self-reported fashion.

But it includes things like increased anxiety etc. and associated physical symptoms (palpitations, increased heart rate, sweating, fatigue, brain fog) and it's hard to know if those have a physical cause or not. There's also the chance of there being some low-level trauma if they were severely ill, or general lockdown-related anxiety, or having been "off their feet" with the illness for an extended time and never getting back to full fitness.

[bots]

the biggest non lethal effect of the pandemic will be on long term mental health. Most of the worlds population has had a pretty nasty shock which will among many other things, make people re-think their priorities. We won't be the same again

[Nicky91]

Netherlands todays numbers

1.490 new cases 92 less than yesterday

993 total hospitalisations (5 less compared to yesterday)

343 total ICU patients (1 less compared to yesterday)

3 new deaths

[arista]

Monday 7/6/21

1 Died
5,683 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
932


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
134


127,841 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

Bank Holiday Monday 31/5/21

1 Died
3,383 Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
870

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
120


127,782 Total Deaths UK


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Monday 7/6/21

1 Died
5,683 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
932


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
134


127,841 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


.

[Cherie]

Monday 17/5/21

5 have died.
1,979 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
991

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
124


127,684 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


From 3 weeks ago ...hospitalisation is flat

[bots]

well, it could be described as a third wave, but if the increase remains this small it's well within bounds for opening the country up and returning life to near as normal as possible

[arista]

Uganda has gone into Another Lockdown
due to a Surge.

Travel Bans.

CNN HD

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/1feSgna9M4mREyHBZ7BS8w/https/media.fyre.co/yN2ywv4ShqXdcX9gLpdY_mirror-front-jabs-080621_1623101264_001.jpg

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Nicky91]

Netherlands: due to a power outage in Nieuwegein last night 1.200 Janssen vaccine doses were handed out to staff workers and other people whom were interested in getting vaccine, some of which earlier than their intended jab date

it was either that or throwing those doses in the garbage bin

https://nltimes.nl/2021/06/08/ggd-utrecht-gives-away-1200-covid-19-vaccines-power-failure-killed-cold-storage


------------------------------------
more Netherlands: 90.000 AstraZeneca vaccine doses to Suriname on Wednesday morning, last week was promised 40.000 so that was increased by 50.000 more our health minister De Jonge had stated, because dutch hospitals require lesser vaccine doses than expected they can give away more to allies

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: week recap numbers

last week 14.397 tested positive for corona, 30% less than the week before

of all tests only 7.2% was positive, compared to 9.0% the week before


last week the number of new covid patients dropped with 32% to total of 380, the number of new ICU patients even dropped with 57% to total of 50

as of today
total hospitalisations: 937

total ICU Patients: 321


the last calculated R-number at May 24th, at 0.90 (bit more than week before 0.82) but still below the critical line of 1.00

[Nicky91]

Germany and some areas of Italy into Yellow

from orange to yellow since the corona situation has improved so much they aren't seen as high risk areas


the only places of Italy which remains orange are in the south and that will remain that way for a longer time


it is uncertain if Belgium, France, Switzerland, Spain will change from orange to yellow

[arista]

Tuesday 8/6/21

13 Died
6,048 caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
957


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
148


127,854 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

In Greater Manchester
and Lancashire
both now have Covid Testing Twice a week

They are trying to stop the Delta increase.

Mayor Burnham said this is Guidance

Told not to travel so much etc.


https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-greater-manchester-and-lancashire-get-rapid-response-teams-and-extra-testing-as-variant-cases-rise-12327676

[arista]

Ch5HDnews
reports pubs are short of staff
with a lack of workers, many not returning.

They need to put the wages up.

Some are going to Shut down, sadly.

[Vanessa]

Ch5HDnews
reports pubs are short of staff
with a lack of workers, many not returning.

They need to put the wages up.

Some are going to Shut down, sadly.

Why don't they get agency staff?
That's what they do at our workplace when they need people.

[arista]

Why don't they get agency staff?
That's what they do at our workplace when they need people.


Yes that's one way to stay in business,

[Cherie]

Why don't they get agency staff?
That's what they do at our workplace when they need people.

Vanessa for CEO of the Brewers Guild

[Cherie]

Tuesday 1/6/21


0 Deaths
3,165 have Caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
870

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
120


127,782 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Tuesday 8/6/21

13 Died
6,048 caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
957


Patients on ventilation
Latest available
148


127,854 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

.

[arista]

Deaths and Cases Both Up.

[Zizu]

Deaths and Cases Both Up.



Infections up by 100% in seven DAYS !!


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

1402367271138467847


Look he is not the only one
fine him £10,000
each time.

[user104658]

Deaths and Cases Both Up.

To be fair we have no idea if deaths are up and if they are, it's not by much.

This is why I told y'all not to start blaring the trumpets for "zero deaths" last Tuesday. It was bank holiday weekend, it was a rogue reporting result, it was NOT realistically zero deaths last Tuesday, and it's quite simply "bad stats" to pretend that it was.

But nooo everyone wanted the "pick-me-up" of pretending there had been none, and now is more worried than they need to be that it's "shot back up".

Realistically, had it not been bank holiday last weekend, Tuesday deaths would (probably) have been around 10. Not zero.

[bots]

personally, i think the obvious solution is to have a period of constant bank holiday. It is the most effective measure we have against covid death

[Strictly Jake]

I can see a pattern forming once again...

[Nicky91]

all of Italy, Poland, Czech Republic, almost all of Norway from orange to yellow

travellers whom are returning to Netherlands don't have to be in quarantaine anymore

[Nicky91]

To be fair we have no idea if deaths are up and if they are, it's not by much.

This is why I told y'all not to start blaring the trumpets for "zero deaths" last Tuesday. It was bank holiday weekend, it was a rogue reporting result, it was NOT realistically zero deaths last Tuesday, and it's quite simply "bad stats" to pretend that it was.

But nooo everyone wanted the "pick-me-up" of pretending there had been none, and now is more worried than they need to be that it's "shot back up".

Realistically, had it not been bank holiday last weekend, Tuesday deaths would (probably) have been around 10. Not zero.

our deaths amid a wave had been constantly in 10's


and yes this is a wave you guys are in i think, but more because of the Delta variant, don't think you guys should be going back to more lockdowns since people won't obey to those anymore either, i think best thing now is to keep telling people to stick to distancing, wearing of face masks, but still giving them the rest of their freedoms apart from those basic easy to follow measures

and keep vaccinating of course, since that has proven it helps

[Ammi]

1402367271138467847


Look he is not the only one
fine him £10,000
each time.

…one of the more older ones vaccinated first just so that he could be arrested, silly sausage…

[user104658]

I can see a pattern forming once again...


It’s on the way back up yes.

And people are still banging on about holidays. Lol.

[bots]

people need to realize that uncertainty is going to be with us for the foreseeable future. We may well be able to remove social distancing at some point, but only when it's safe to do so, and right now, that comes in baby steps until we get a fuller picture.

Vaccinated people shouldnt need to isolate for 10 days after a negative test either, it's totally over the top, but it will sort itself out when we have a bit more confidence with the effectiveness of vaccination

[Nicky91]

Belgium: the pubs/bars are allowed to receive visitors for the first time since october last year, they can remain open until 22:00 PM

indoors is allowed up to 200 people to watch Euro2020 matches, outdoors is allowed up to 400 people, reservations beforehand is a must, and everyone must wear a face mask


casino's, indoor playgrounds, cinema's also reopen

and employees can go to office (those who work in offices) one day in the week, also rules around hugging have been relaxed slightly


of 11.5 million population, 5 million have had at least a first vaccine dose

[arista]

It’s on the way back up yes.

And people are still banging on about holidays. Lol.


Yes Cocky Richard Madeley (GMBHD itv)
told MP Jenrick
he is Driving to France in July.


He said
him and his Wife will do the 10 day Isolation

[bots]

About 8 in 10 adults in the UK had antibodies to coronavirus by 17 May, according to the latest data from the Office for National Statistics.

The figures are 83% for adults in Wales, 80% in England and Northern Ireland and a slightly lower 73% for Scotland.

They're up from 77% for Wales, 76% for England, 75% for Northern Ireland and 69% for Scotland - the week before.

Antibodies are evidence of vaccination or past infection which help the body fight illness.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1402376674658951175/G33_K-1p?format=jpg&name=small

[Cherie]

I can see a pattern forming once again...

don't panic just yet, only 3 are in hospital who have been double jabbed, a handful single jabbed, the vast majority in with the Delta variant are unvaccinated

[Zizu]

don't panic just yet, only 3 are in hospital who have been double jabbed, a handful single jabbed, the vast majority in with the Delta variant are unvaccinated


Can we really believe a word HanCock says now ..

I seem to recall him saying the two jabs would guard against hospitalisations and death ... sounded brilliant at the time but now we’re seeing double vaccinated people poorly in hospital ( using Govt stats - one in every three requiring hospitalisations result in death )



###

Matt Hancock told MPs: “Despite the rise in cases, hospitalisations have been broadly flat. The “majority” of people in hospital with Covid “appear” to be those who haven’t had the vaccine at all.

“I want to update the House on some new information that we have on this.

As of 3 June our data show that of the 12,383 cases of the Delta variant, 464 went on to present at emergency care and 126 people were admitted to hospital. Of these 126 people, 83 were unvaccinated, 28 had received one dose and just three had received both doses of the vaccine.”

He added: “The jabs are working, we have to keep coming forward to get them and that includes vitally that second jab which we know gives better protection against the Delta variant.”


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[bots]

Can we really believe a word HanCock says now ..

I seem to recall him saying the two jabs would guard against hospitalisations and death ... sounded brilliant at the time but now we’re seeing double vaccinated people poorly in hospital ( using Govt stats - one in every three requiring hospitalisations result in death )



###

Matt Hancock told MPs: “Despite the rise in cases, hospitalisations have been broadly flat. The “majority” of people in hospital with Covid “appear” to be those who haven’t had the vaccine at all.

“I want to update the House on some new information that we have on this.

As of 3 June our data show that of the 12,383 cases of the Delta variant, 464 went on to present at emergency care and 126 people were admitted to hospital. Of these 126 people, 83 were unvaccinated, 28 had received one dose and just three had received both doses of the vaccine.”

He added: “The jabs are working, we have to keep coming forward to get them and that includes vitally that second jab which we know gives better protection against the Delta variant.”


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i don't trust hancock but i do trust things like the ONS reports and the people in charge of health in the particular areas. Even Burnham has said get out and live your lives, and he was Mr Doom last year

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: todays numbers

1.791 new cases 334 more than yesterday but still average keeps decreasing

834 total hospitalisations (55 new hospitalisations)

304 total ICU patients

both of these is lowest total since October 4th


5 new deaths

[Cherie]

Can we really believe a word HanCock says now ..

I seem to recall him saying the two jabs would guard against hospitalisations and death ... sounded brilliant at the time but now we’re seeing double vaccinated people poorly in hospital ( using Govt stats - one in every three requiring hospitalisations result in death )



###

Matt Hancock told MPs: “Despite the rise in cases, hospitalisations have been broadly flat. The “majority” of people in hospital with Covid “appear” to be those who haven’t had the vaccine at all.

“I want to update the House on some new information that we have on this.

As of 3 June our data show that of the 12,383 cases of the Delta variant, 464 went on to present at emergency care and 126 people were admitted to hospital. Of these 126 people, 83 were unvaccinated, 28 had received one dose and just three had received both doses of the vaccine.”

He added: “The jabs are working, we have to keep coming forward to get them and that includes vitally that second jab which we know gives better protection against the Delta variant.”


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:facepalm:

Everyone know vaccines don't cover 100% and that was stated quite clearly from the start and on SKY news which you are very fond of!

You don't know what underlying issues these 3 have, maybe they are in remission from cancer and the vaccine didn't work so well with other drugs, no one nowhere said vaccines would protect EVERYONE but they will protect the vast MAJORITY

[Cherie]

1402367271138467847


Look he is not the only one
fine him £10,000
each time.

makes me angry, what is a another month to wait, the lack of patience is astounding

[arista]

Wednesday 9/6/21

6 Died
7,540 have caught Covid-19

Patients in hospital
Latest available
1,024

Patients on ventilation
Latest available
154


127,860 Total UK Deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Note The Total Deaths has come down

[DouglasS]

It’s a shame things have hit a halt. Although the objective of ensuring the NHS is not overwhelmed has been hit :clap1:

With constant new variants which the vaccines aren’t as effective against sadly means the most vulnerable / those with very weak immune systems may still be at risk - doesn’t look like there’s an awful lot that can be done and it might be one of those things where people do just die as a result of getting sick (like the flu). As by September probably 80% of people will have had two vaccines and I can’t see it getting better for winter..

Sadly the world won’t function on a constant lockdown as the government will not be able to afford paying out for businesses to remain closed, some Lee way of death is going to have to be accepted (as long as the NHS isn’t overburdened)

I do reckon the main lockdown will be extended for 2 weeks though, which doesn’t bother me personally if we are actually able to open everything in July for a longer term

[Zizu]

The UK has reported another 7,540 #COVID19 cases in the latest 24-hour period - the highest number since 27 February.

Get the latest on this story: trib.al/0b7PvPp


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[Nicky91]

you cannot extend lockdown, otherwise human rights activists will complain

[arista]

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[Vanessa]

At least the deaths are staying low.
That's something.

[Zizu]

At least the deaths are staying low.
That's something.


That’s the only positive at the moment ..

Though hospitalisations are up to over a 1,000 now that’s a 10% increase over 7 days .

According to some stats a third of hospitalisations sadly end up as deaths although that stat may just apply to over 60’s.


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[Vanessa]

That’s the only positive at the moment ..

Though hospitalisations are up to over a 1,000 now that’s a 10% increase over 7 days .

According to some stats a third of hospitalisations sadly end up as deaths although that stat may just apply to over 60’s.


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Yes, so many older people are vaccinated now.
It's mostly younger people that are getting the virus, I think.
Most of them aren't vaccinated yet

[user104658]

Increase in deaths will inevitably follow, HOWEVER in theory it may well be a smaller percentage of cases/hospitalisations than previously, given the higher proportion of over-60’s who are double jabbed.

We just have to wait and see tbh.

[Vanessa]

Increase in deaths will inevitably follow, HOWEVER in theory it may well be a smaller percentage of cases/hospitalisations than previously, given the higher proportion of over-60’s who are double jabbed.

We just have to wait and see tbh.
Yes, I don't think deaths will increase too much.
It's still brilliant.
In Italy we've never had death numbers this low.

[DouglasS]

My flatmate has got covid (again)

[Zizu]

My flatmate has got covid (again)


Our daughter has just recovered from her second bout of Covid


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Cherie]

My flatmate has got covid (again)

Our daughter has just recovered from her second bout of Covid


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I wonder if some people are more susceptible to it than others as they should have had antibodies

[Zizu]

I wonder if some people are more susceptible to it than others as they should have had antibodies


We seem to know so very little about Covid 19 tbh


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[DouglasS]

I wonder if some people are more susceptible to it than others as they should have had antibodies

The first time he had it he was coughing 24/7 and was pretty bad with it, couldn’t really do anything. This time he has a little bit of a dry cough but bad that he’s fine. I’m thinking him having some antibodies just have made this second infection so much tamer for him

I don’t know if I have it but if I do I have no symptoms

[arista]

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[Cherie]

The first time he had it he was coughing 24/7 and was pretty bad with it, couldn’t really do anything. This time he has a little bit of a dry cough but bad that he’s fine. I’m thinking him having some antibodies just have made this second infection so much tamer for him

I don’t know if I have it but if I do I have no symptoms

get yourself a free lateral flow test.

https://www.gov.uk/order-coronavirus-rapid-lateral-flow-tests

[Cherie]

Increase in deaths will inevitably follow, HOWEVER in theory it may well be a smaller percentage of cases/hospitalisations than previously, given the higher proportion of over-60’s who are double jabbed.

We just have to wait and see tbh.

is that necessarily true though, depends on the age and fitness of people in hospital, I heard last week that it was younger people in hospital who were being treated with therapeutics and didn't need critical care

[user104658]

is that necessarily true though, depends on the age and fitness of people in hospital, I heard last week that it was younger people in hospital who were being treated with therapeutics and didn't need critical care


An increase in cases will still result in an increase in deaths, just hopefully in a much smaller proportion, if that makes sense... even if the actual number remains relatively low if that makes sense. Like even if deaths-per-case are way down, in theory, doubling case number should still result in doubling deaths.

[Cherie]

]An increase in cases will still result in an increase in deaths, [/B]just hopefully in a much smaller proportion, if that makes sense... even if the actual number remains relatively low if that makes sense. Like even if deaths-per-case are way down, in theory, doubling case number should still result in doubling deaths.

well we are told other countries had high infection rates but low deaths as they didn't have as many vulnerable so if the jabs are working this shouldn't be the case as 'most' of the vulnerable are jabbed :shrug:

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: in talkshow Op1 virologist Ab Osterhaus wants our government to order a travel ban on India, now with the Delta variant

he also isn't against people going on holidays again, but he also worries for the people who might bring covid with them upon returning home



finally some had been talking about Delta variant here before its too late, now hope those morons i mean government will listen to this advice

[Cherie]

ONS says 8 out 10 people in the UK now have covid antibodies, time to open up, I dont mind waiting another 2 weeks after 21 June but that should be that then

[Vanessa]

ONS says 8 out 10 people in the UK now have covid antibodies, time to open up, I dont mind waiting another 2 weeks after 21 June but that should be that then

Yes, I don't mind waiting a bit longer.
We have the vaccine now, so we can fight back that way.

[bots]

the test and trace people have called my brother every day to ensure he is isolating after his holiday :laugh:

[Vanessa]

the test and trace people have called my brother every day to ensure he is isolating after his holiday :laugh:

That's good to hear.

[user104658]

well we are told other countries had high infection rates but low deaths as they didn't have as many vulnerable so if the jabs are working this shouldn't be the case as 'most' of the vulnerable are jabbed :shrug:

I didn't say it would be high deaths I said any increase in number will result in an increase in deaths, even if that overall number is low!

It's simple proportional scaling, come on Cherie :fist:.


I'm saying (and these are totally made up numbers) that if before vaccines 10,000 new cases = 500 deaths then we could assume that 20,000 new cases would = 1000 deaths... and let's say now 10,000 new cases = just 50 deaths... we can still assume that 20,000 new cases = 100 deaths.

Now that is obviously amazing, shows vaccines work, and may well be considered "within acceptable limits".

All I'm saying is, it's still the case that as case numbers go up, death numbers will also go up, even if deaths are a SMALLER proportion of overall cases.

[bots]

we need to get to a stage where people are happy to live with covid the same way they are with other stuff. It's not going away and people will continue to die from it

[Cherie]

the test and trace people have called my brother every day to ensure he is isolating after his holiday :laugh:

arrrgh :laugh: how are his stress levels :laugh:

[user104658]

we need to get to a stage where people are happy to live with covid the same way they are with other stuff. It's not going away and people will continue to die from it

I do think it's a complicated issue, and the speed & availability of information means that people in general are more expectant than at any other time in history.

[bots]

arrrgh :laugh: how are his stress levels :laugh:

he was pretty annoyed from the point he was asked to isolate, so a call a day isn't helping that :laugh:

[Cherie]

I didn't say it would be high deaths I said any increase in number will result in an increase in deaths, even if that overall number is low!

It's simple proportional scaling, come on Cherie :fist:.


I'm saying (and these are totally made up numbers) that if before vaccines 10,000 new cases = 500 deaths then we could assume that 20,000 new cases would = 1000 deaths... and let's say now 10,000 new cases = just 50 deaths... we can still assume that 20,000 new cases = 100 deaths.

Now that is obviously amazing, shows vaccines work, and may well be considered "within acceptable limits".

All I'm saying is, it's still the case that as case numbers go up, death numbers will also go up, even if deaths are a SMALLER proportion of overall cases.


but I think most people are aware people will continue to die from covid, just like they do from other diseases and it is something we need to live with :hmph: so I think at this stage hospital publishing numbers is hindering rather than helping

[Cherie]

he was pretty annoyed from the point he was asked to isolate, so a call a day isn't helping that :laugh:

ooops hope they are calling at inopportune moments :laugh:

[arista]

Health Secretary is going Live
in a Parliament Select Committee.


On all media

[arista]

The Cock is talking about team effort.................

[Vanessa]

we need to get to a stage where people are happy to live with covid the same way they are with other stuff. It's not going away and people will continue to die from it

Exactly.
Every year people also die of flu, but that's widely accepted.

[DouglasS]

get yourself a free lateral flow test.

https://www.gov.uk/order-coronavirus-rapid-lateral-flow-tests

One is arriving today!

[AnnieK]

I think we do need to start living again, people need to be sensible. I think now that the NHS and gov need to look at the mental health impact of this pandemic. In the last month there have been numerous incidents on the M60 of people jumping off bridges.....it's almost a weekly occurrence now :sad:

[DouglasS]

I think we do need to start living again, people need to be sensible. I think now that the NHS and gov need to look at the mental health impact of this pandemic. In the last month there have been numerous incidents on the M60 of people jumping off bridges.....it's almost a weekly occurrence now :sad:

Yes the deaths because of lockdown are almost as high (or higher) as the number of deaths of people testing positive and dying within 28 days (which half won’t be actual covid causing the death..)

The amount of suicides, misdiagnoses etc are very worrying.

It sounds sad but there is always a trade off and lockdown is also killing a lot of young life/kids and whilst it’s important to protect the vulnerable - if two vaccines, large testing capacities, masks and social distancing arrangements aren’t enough in the midst of summer then I don’t know what is (good news is thousands of vulnerable have been saved from the amount of 1500 dying per day to about 5 now - but if this lockdown doesn’t end. And then things wil I likely to continue to rise into autumn and winter with the weather xondnitons for viral growth and a full lockdown again I think many on the edge mentally Will not survive another year - they’ve had it in their heads that come July I can live/ go to university / be able to see friends etc

[user104658]

I think we do need to start living again, people need to be sensible. I think now that the NHS and gov need to look at the mental health impact of this pandemic. In the last month there have been numerous incidents on the M60 of people jumping off bridges.....it's almost a weekly occurrence now :sad:

The impact on mental health has been horrendous - especially for people who are more isolated. It seems to be hitting single younger-adults particularly hard (people who live alone, but are very active socially and so not used to BEING alone, I guess). I think that side of things can be hard to understand for people like me, still living with the people that 99% of my interaction is with anyway :joker:.

The impact on normal health services (GP's and other medical procedures, scheduled surgery etc.) can't continue either... I honestly think we're in a bit of trouble as it is with that... because the backlog is SO massive at this point that it's going to take 3+ years to clear. And that's if we were to go back to full-swing right now, which we still haven't. And that's another strain for mental health; tonnes of people stuck in chronic pain/dealing with poorly managed chronic conditions because they can't get surgeries or even referral appointments.

[bots]

if enough people are vaccinated, things will settle down. We are very nearly there, and I for one am completely fed up with the media creating further unrest at every opportunity. They need to behave responsibly

[Cherie]

if enough people are vaccinated, things will settle down. We are very nearly there, and I for one am completely fed up with the media creating further unrest at every opportunity. They need to behave responsibly

Honestly hope they are hauls over the coals during the enquiry, they have been horrific all the way through

either bleating about holidays or Christmas or bleating about locking down too late, too soon, too long ..too short

Goldilocks Syndrome!

[Zizu]

ONS says 8 out 10 people in the UK now have covid antibodies, time to open up, I dont mind waiting another 2 weeks after 21 June but that should be that then


I saw something about delaying for a month...


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[user104658]

Honestly hope they are hauls over the coals during the enquiry, they have been horrific all the way through

either bleating about holidays or Christmas or bleating about locking down too late, too soon, too long ..too short

Goldilocks Syndrome!

I have to agree that the flip-flopping of the press between being "outraged" about infection numbers to "outraged" about lockdown length, and back again, is a bit bewildering.

But to be honest it does somewhat reflect the public mindset.

[Vanessa]

I'm going to the cinema later.
So happy it's back! :dance:

[arista]

I'm going to the cinema later.
So happy it's back! :dance:



Another one.

Is the 4DX open yet?

[Vanessa]

Another one.

Is the 4DX open yet?

Yes.
I'm going to see The Conjuring. I love the series.

[arista]

(4DX) The Conjuring : The Devil Made Me Do It

Great.
Hope you have a great time
I love 4DX effects.

https://ttrp-www.cineworld.co.uk/4dx#/

[arista]

Delta Covid-19
now comprises 91% of UK Infections


Health Secretary

[DouglasS]

Don’t think the lateral flow tests work properly - they arrived and my flatmates testing negative and he has got his positive pcr result already. Likewise the girl he caught it from tested negative on the lateral flow test and her pcr came back positive….

Pcr is the proper test. I wonder how many are using them and infecting others? Because that’s 2/2 out of people I know so I can’t imagine the accuracy being anymore than 60% which is pretty poor