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The Slim Reaper
29-06-2020, 01:18 PM
Poor Boris. If only he'd been in a position to do some things about it, we'd all be better off. Oh...

Tom4784
29-06-2020, 01:42 PM
The leadership has been woeful throughout, the only Tory worth a damn throughout all of this was Rishi Sunak, the rest were atrocious.

joeysteele
29-06-2020, 02:16 PM
The leadership has been woeful throughout, the only Tory worth a damn throughout all of this was Rishi Sunak, the rest were atrocious.

Frighteningly woeful I agree.

The mixed messaging, procrastination, reactive catching up.
Despite having foreknowledge of what was happening in Italy and elsewhere.

Hindsight not even an excuse, after sitting for weeks watching Italy particularly fall into holes.
Then the UK jumping deeper into the same holes.

I also agree Rishi Sunak did what was right and is the only light from the government on this pandemic.
Although sadly, I soon expect him to be getting restrained as to the future of the effects of this pandemic.

Really shocking display however, from other Ministers and the PM too, who seems to misread so much as to the dangers still.

arista
29-06-2020, 02:38 PM
China now has 400,000 people
under a New Lockdown
Near Beijing.

Non-local vehicles not allowed into Anxin Counter.


CNN HD

The Slim Reaper
29-06-2020, 03:01 PM
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arista
29-06-2020, 03:35 PM
25 UK Deaths

Covid-19 Total UK deaths :43,575

bots
29-06-2020, 03:45 PM
New rules for weddings in England:


Under the new guidance for England released on Monday, small wedding and civil partnership ceremonies are allowed to go ahead only when they can be done safely and follow social distancing guidelines.

The advice says:

Ceremonies should be kept "as short as reasonably possible" and limited as much as possible to just the parts that are legally binding
No more than 30 people should attend
Everyone should follow the 2m rule if possible, or 1m with extra safety measures
No food and drink should be consumed as part of the event
Hands should be washed before and after the exchanging of rings, and the rings should be handled by as few people as possible
Singing, shouting or playing music at a volume that means people have to raise their voice should all be avoided. Instead of singing, recordings are suggested
Speaking during the ceremony - for example saying the responses to the vows - should not be in a raised voice
Playing instruments that are blown into should be avoided
When singing or chanting is required, only one person is allowed to and the couple or venue should consider installing a clear screen
Venues frequently used for weddings should mark the floor with tape or paint to help people maintain social distance.
The government advice also suggests changing traditional wedding layouts to avoid face-to-face seating, improving ventilation or using face masks.

The requirement to follow the 2m rule - or 1m with extra precautions - will likely rule out the tradition of a father walking his daughter down the aisle, unless they live in the same household.

The maximum number of 30 people includes everybody at the ceremony - including the couple, witnesses, officiants, guests and suppliers such as photographers and caterers.

The guidance also says receptions that "typically follow or accompany marriages or civil partnerships are strongly advised not to take place at this time".

It says small celebrations should only take place if they follow social distancing guidelines, such as groups of up to two households indoors, or up to six people from different households outdoors.

The reason people are urged not to sing or speak loudly is based on scientific advice which suggests doing so produces more respiratory droplets which enter the air and can be inhaled by others.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53217342

That sounds like a bundle of fun :cheer2:

arista
29-06-2020, 04:05 PM
[Coronavirus: Health secretary to give update
on possible Leicester lockdown extension
All the latest updates as Matt Hancock is to make
a statement in the Commons amid a localised
coronavirus outbreak.]


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-health-secretary-to-give-update-on-possible-leicester-lockdown-extension-12017525

arista
29-06-2020, 06:24 PM
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9PM tonight Hancock MP is in Parliament to tell Leicester

arista
29-06-2020, 08:05 PM
Outbreak in Leicester
From Thursday schools must close
4th of July they can not open.
2 Weeks Lockdown.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-53229371

The Slim Reaper
29-06-2020, 08:33 PM
Sleep well

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arista
30-06-2020, 12:16 AM
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arista
30-06-2020, 12:17 AM
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arista
30-06-2020, 12:18 AM
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arista
30-06-2020, 12:18 AM
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arista
30-06-2020, 12:19 AM
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arista
30-06-2020, 12:20 AM
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arista
30-06-2020, 12:23 AM
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[BBC text : Daily Star reports that a statue of The Wurzels'
frontman Adge Cutler has been "vandalised".
Googly eyes have been stuck on to the
tribute to the West Country singer, sparking "fury" from fans,
according to the paper.]


This a Joker
putting eyes on the star.

arista
30-06-2020, 12:52 AM
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Ammi
30-06-2020, 04:57 AM
...I can’t imagine how deflated the people of Leicester must be feeling...:sad:..

bots
30-06-2020, 05:06 AM
local lockdowns are going to become a frequent event. There will be flair ups and they need to be acted upon quickly. Eventually it may even get down to street level

arista
30-06-2020, 07:17 AM
1277859850874126336


Of course, they will drive out
on Saturday.

No Fencing

Nicky91
30-06-2020, 07:32 AM
no easing down of measures for UK anymore, would be best option now

UK isn't ready to come out of lockdown

joeysteele
30-06-2020, 08:07 AM
no easing down of measures for UK anymore, would be best option now

UK isn't ready to come out of lockdown

I agree in part.

It should have been trialled in a smaller way perhaps area by area first.
Not rolled out across England.

The infection variations were, or should be, known by government so they would have been better operating in that knowledge.

Like everything else through this pandemic, they are just reacting to issues as they arise.
Procrastinating, they've known the issue with Leicester for over a week.

So it's back to catch up again to try to just get back to the fragile situation we were in before having to lockdown a city in England.

Now I'm not a scientist, nor a virologist nor thankfully part of this dangerous, risk taking Government.

Before the charge of hindsight being a great thing comes up, if it does.
Hindsight here in the UK has never been an excuse.

We saw right off what happened in China, we saw the chaos brought to poor Italy in this and the holes they fell into.
Then saw it spreading.
Through February to mid March we did next to nothing despite having that forewarning of all that was to come.

There's no hiding place for this government on that.
Their deceit and lies all through have been exposed.
Their deceit on PPE equipment, the lies on testing, they don't say how many people are being tested, counting 2 tests on the same person as 2 tests, not just one.
The unnecessary deaths of those in Care homes.
Needs to be and I hope in any future investigation of this, is seen and recorded as a national scandal.

The losses of lives of Doctors,Nurses and NHS staff, plus other Care staff.
Due to lack of protection equipment.
An absolute disgrace.

Then we have this dangerous self styled buffoon of a PM shouting let's get the bustle back.
As if all is solved.
With all Ministers just crawling along behind him sickeningly.

The word normal cannot be used now, there is no normal.
There has to be the safest, most secure and compassionately fair new way of life for all, across the UK.
While this pandemic remains.

Taking any risks is dangerous and acting on thought, rather than knowledge of more certainty as to what could result from action taken, is extremely dangerous.

Hence now, Leicester the first at least to face a turnaround back to lockdown after such a small relaxation.

This is a nightmare for any government to have had to have thrust on them.
However hindsight is out the window.
We knew in January and February what was the chaos in Italy and spreading elsewhere.
That's being forewarned.
Yet we jumped deeper into the holes Italy found itself in.

That is incompetence on an unprecedented level by any government.
The warnings on their table, yet they did next to nothing for nearly 2 months.

Vanessa
30-06-2020, 09:17 AM
I think local lockdowns are a good idea.
And it could happen everywhere, London included.
It's better to act on it before it gets out of control.
And it won't be forever, only until the numbers come down.

user104658
30-06-2020, 09:22 AM
no easing down of measures for UK anymore, would be best option now

UK isn't ready to come out of lockdown

*ahem* - England is not ready.

Scottish numbers: 29 June 2020
5 new confirmed cases of COVID-19*
0 new reported deaths of people who have tested positive

https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

No new coronavirus deaths in Scotland for fourth day running

https://news.yahoo.com/no-coronavirus-deaths-scotland-fourth-143054888.html

Nicky91
30-06-2020, 09:26 AM
oh wow, a little applause for Scotland from me then :clap2:

Vanessa
30-06-2020, 09:31 AM
Italy is doing great at the moment and I'm so happy.
We'll get there in the UK, we just need more time.
But things will get better. We just need to hang in there.

Cherie
30-06-2020, 09:33 AM
Italy is doing great at the moment and I'm so happy.
We'll get there in the UK, we just need more time.
But things will get better. We just need to hang in there.

and they took a calculated risk and opened up and saved many jobs :clap1:

Cherie
30-06-2020, 09:36 AM
oh wow, a little applause for Scotland from me then :clap2:

well if you compare 5 million to 55 million, England is doing fine considering it opened up weeks ago, and Scotland are pretty much still locked down :hehe:

user104658
30-06-2020, 09:37 AM
well if you compare 5 million to 55 million, England is doing fine considering it opened up weeks ago, and Scotland are pretty much still locked down :hehe:

What's 11 x zero Cherie?

Cherie
30-06-2020, 09:41 AM
What's 11 x zero Cherie?

you are locked down, if everywhere was locked down it would be zero too :shrug: how many more jobs would be lost? plus we have had this convo before you just don't have the density of city in Scotland and much more rural spaces, if you compare yourself to a similar size country with similar size population for instance the Republic you have about 700 more deaths and they are open! :shrug: are your non essential shops open yet :suspect:?

user104658
30-06-2020, 09:44 AM
you are locked down, if everywhere was locked down it would be zero too :shrug: how many more jobs would be lost? plus we have had this convo before you just don't have the density of city in Scotland and much more rural spaces, if you compare yourself to a similar size country with similar size population for instance the Republic you have about 700 more deaths and they are open! :shrug:

It's not a brag, it's pointing out that the possibility of a 2nd wave in England is not a reason to shut down "The UK" if the numbers in Scotland are different. The reasons for the difference aren't really revelant.

are your non essential shops open yet :suspect:?

Yes :joker:. Me and LT are even going on holiday next week. Not together :umm2:.

I do enjoy that your main argument is based on the incorrect assumption that Scotland is still on full lockdown, though.

Samm
30-06-2020, 09:46 AM
By the way the current German R number is back to 0.63 of course it’s important to take things seriously but I think the press do a lot of scaremongering.

Needless to say I think it’s a terrible idea for the government to not ban travel from Leicester. Not surprised however, they always say “we will rely on the great british public” when that hasn’t helped so far.

arista
30-06-2020, 09:52 AM
The PM is live all Media
around 11AM

Cherie
30-06-2020, 09:57 AM
It's not a brag, it's pointing out that the possibility of a 2nd wave in England is not a reason to shut down "The UK" if the numbers in Scotland are different. The reasons for the difference aren't really revelant.



Yes :joker:. Me and LT are even going on holiday next week. Not together :umm2:.

I do enjoy that your main argument is based on the incorrect assumption that Scotland is still on full lockdown, though.

Didn't they just open yesterday?

If we are playing devolved nation top trumps I think NI did the best in all honesty :laugh:

user104658
30-06-2020, 10:02 AM
Didn't they just open yesterday?

If we are playing devolved nation top trumps I think NI did the best in all honesty :laugh:

There's been a staggered reopening like anywhere else but I've been having McDonalds, Starbucks and trips to the beach for weeks :shrug:. Like I said it's not about top trumps, the whole UK was a ****-show at the start and I've been consistently worried about the economic fallout and still am. However, I think England slammed the breaks literally a couple of short weeks too early and if they had held their resolve a little longer, would be much closer to the very low levels needed for track & trace, and would not be at this risk of localised surges.

Opening the doors two weeks prematurely will have saved very few jobs, if any. Whilst keeping case numbers higher than they need to be. It's literally the worst of both worlds; the best thing for the economy and worst for infection rates would have been to open far earlier. The best thing for ingfection rates would have been to hold off just a LITTLE longer. It's like pulling your pizza out of the oven a few minutes too early because you're scared it's going to burn, only to find out that some of the cheese isn't quite melted yet and it's going to go cold before you can eat it.

arista
30-06-2020, 10:05 AM
Italy is doing great at the moment and I'm so happy.
We'll get there in the UK, we just need more time.
But things will get better. We just need to hang in there.


Yes but the Italy Armed Police
enforced a proper lockdown

Unlike pathetic Johnson PM

arista
30-06-2020, 10:07 AM
Johnson PM is Live in Dudley
a new Conservative Zone.
Any min now

Vanessa
30-06-2020, 10:10 AM
Yes but the Italy Armed Police
enforced a proper lockdown

Unlike pathetic Johnson PM

Yes, it was very strict. And it worked.

Cherie
30-06-2020, 10:10 AM
There's been a staggered reopening like anywhere else but I've been having McDonalds, Starbucks and trips to the beach for weeks :shrug:. Like I said it's not about top trumps, the whole UK was a ****-show at the start and I've been consistently worried about the economic fallout and still am. However, I think England slammed the breaks literally a couple of short weeks too early and if they had held their resolve a little longer, would be much closer to the very low levels needed for track & trace, and would not be at this risk of localised surges.

Opening the doors two weeks prematurely will have saved very few jobs, if any. Whilst keeping case numbers higher than they need to be. It's literally the worst of both worlds; the best thing for the economy and worst for infection rates would have been to open far earlier. The best thing for ingfection rates would have been to hold off just a LITTLE longer. It's like pulling your pizza out of the oven a few minutes too early because you're scared it's going to burn, only to find out that some of the cheese isn't quite melted yet and it's going to go cold before you can eat it.

Lockdown was gone so it was pointless, I think they did the right thing in opening up, it was a balance between, health, economy and civil unrest at that stage, the lockdown in Leicester is timely as it will pull make people refocus on what they have to continue to do

Zizu
30-06-2020, 10:10 AM
I think local lockdowns are a good idea.

And it could happen everywhere, London included.

It's better to act on it before it gets out of control.

And it won't be forever, only until the numbers come down.



The suggestion is the usual numpties won’t stay confined... they will keep travelling out of the area to go shopping / sightseeing / whatever ..


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arista
30-06-2020, 10:11 AM
Live Now

user104658
30-06-2020, 10:12 AM
Lockdown was gone so it was pointless, I think they did the right thing in opening up, it was a balance between, health, economy and civil unrest at that stage, the lockdown in Leicester is timely as it will pull make people refocus on what they have to continue to do

It wasn't gone, it was being broken by a certain percentage of the population (just like everywhere else that has had lockdown, including Scotland). Where's the logic in the argument that "Oh well, 30% of people aren't doing lockdown anyway so let's just tell 100% of people to head back out"? Even 50% or less compliance to lockdown would have more of an effect than zero lockdown.

arista
30-06-2020, 10:12 AM
Yes, it was very strict. And it worked.


It What we needed
in the UK


Johnson is Live now

Amazing he just said we got something's Wrong.
first time ever.

Vanessa
30-06-2020, 10:20 AM
It What we needed
in the UK


Johnson is Live now

Amazing he just said we got something's Wrong.
first time ever.
Lombardy is the only region that still has cases.
Hopefully things will get better in there as well.

joeysteele
30-06-2020, 10:21 AM
Yes but the Italy Armed Police
enforced a proper lockdown

Unlike pathetic Johnson PM

Exactly arista.

All some seem to want is all opened up.
To blazes with the vulnerable sick and elderly.

Has this government not lost enough sick and elderly to satisfy yet.
Certainly have in my view.
Thousands of unnecessary deaths.
Yet it's fine to take more dangerous risks in some people's minds it seems anyway.

joeysteele
30-06-2020, 10:23 AM
I think local lockdowns are a good idea.
And it could happen everywhere, London included.
It's better to act on it before it gets out of control.
And it won't be forever, only until the numbers come down.

It would help, in my view, if we were told the true actual numbers across the board on anything for starters.
Instead of the deceit flooded out daily.

arista
30-06-2020, 10:26 AM
He is off

4,000 Zero carbon Busses?

Never says the Year
the 4,000 Green Busses will be up and running


A 1992year Plan for a New
A-road to Scotland?

But hang on Johnson
by the time you do that
Scotland could be Free of the UK

arista
30-06-2020, 10:29 AM
Delays in Property
cost money
and halt them

Johnson just splurted out



He just said he is Not a Communist


I do hope they're taking questions
after he has shut up

arista
30-06-2020, 10:42 AM
BBC Laura K
gets the first question
telling him we are short of money

Johnson says he will Borrow.


BBC Laura K
comes back saying all this is
the speeded up version of his first
speech.



ITV Peston :
Bank Of England says more are unemployed.
& Leicester problems

user104658
30-06-2020, 10:45 AM
A 1992year Plan for a New
A-road to Scotland?


:think: I'm up and down to Engerland plenty and there's nothing wrong with the M6? :shrug: Literally never encounter traffic issues until you get near London. What's the reasoning for needing a new road?

arista
30-06-2020, 10:48 AM
:think: I'm up and down to Engerland plenty and there's nothing wrong with the M6? :shrug: Literally never encounter traffic issues until you get near London. What's the reasoning for needing a new road?

Shovel Ready
is his attitude

Something the Conservatives promised
way back when you were a kid
1992

arista
30-06-2020, 10:52 AM
SkyNews Beth
says you say Build , Build ,Build.

Johnson - No ,we do not yet know
its about investors?

arista
30-06-2020, 11:04 AM
[10:09
Labour frontbencher dismisses PM's 'pipe dream'

Liz Kendall has dismissed Boris Johnson's multi-billion pound
"new deal" as a "pipe dream".
The Leicester West MP told
Sky News: "Remember Boris Island Airport - it's a pipe dream - (like) the
garden bridge that was never built.

"Roosevelt actually delivered and saved America
from the Great Depression, I think the jury will
be out on Boris Johnson for that."]

arista
30-06-2020, 11:05 AM
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arista
30-06-2020, 11:07 AM
The Mayor
of Leicester is Live on both news Channels


He says he is not sure
of the place Covid -19 is active?

I would say
Near the Food factorys
everyone is saying

Cherie
30-06-2020, 11:12 AM
It wasn't gone, it was being broken by a certain percentage of the population (just like everywhere else that has had lockdown, including Scotland). Where's the logic in the argument that "Oh well, 30% of people aren't doing lockdown anyway so let's just tell 100% of people to head back out"? Even 50% or less compliance to lockdown would have more of an effect than zero lockdown.

It was gone, and the same people who were observing are still doing so now :shrug:

Cherie
30-06-2020, 11:13 AM
The Angry Mayor
of Leicester is Live on both news Channels

He needs to make up his mind

Sunday … we need lockdown

Monday, you are getting it,...we don't need it

Tuesday...I welcome it (I think)

Cherie
30-06-2020, 11:13 AM
https://e3.365dm.com/20/06/768x432/2372006290094822307_5025843.jpg?bypass-service-worker&20200629192937

lay that brick Bojo

joeysteele
30-06-2020, 11:21 AM
Delays in Property
cost money
and halt them

Johnson just splurted out



He just said he is Not a Communist


I do hope they're taking questions
after he has shut up


I gave up.
He went on too long, sorry.

It's just words to me, no real explanations.
This is just to detract from the negative news of Leicester and likely elsewhere.

A sidestepping exercise in my view, the cynic in me says anyway.

The Slim Reaper
30-06-2020, 11:27 AM
I gave up.
He went on too long, sorry.

It's just words to me, no real explanations.
This is just to detract from the negative news of Leicester and likely elsewhere.

A sidestepping exercise in my view, the cynic in me says anyway.

Nearly 70k excess deaths, 25k deaths because of his late lockdown, Leicester back in lockdown, but Boris has statues on the brain. All culture war, no care.

arista
30-06-2020, 11:30 AM
Nearly 70k excess deaths, 25k deaths because of his late lockdown, Leicester back in lockdown, but Boris has statues on the brain. All culture war, no care.


He is changing
Planning Laws to Build faster
New Homes

arista
30-06-2020, 11:31 AM
I gave up.
He went on too long, sorry.

It's just words to me, no real explanations.
This is just to detract from the negative news of Leicester and likely elsewhere.

A sidestepping exercise in my view, the cynic in me says anyway.



Yes Cummings writes long scripts

The Slim Reaper
30-06-2020, 11:39 AM
He is changing
Planning Laws to Build faster
New Homes

He's setting the UK up to be fleeced by his private sector mates. He's actually cutting the affordable housing budget at the same time. It's currently £12b over 5 years in the 2020 budget, but he's made that £12b over 8 years.

Kizzy
30-06-2020, 11:43 AM
yep who's getting a slice of this funding pie? his construction donors, will the houses be fit for purpose?...who cares?!

joeysteele
30-06-2020, 11:54 AM
Yes Cummings writes long scripts

Well I guess I shouldn't say much on that myself arista.:joker:

I admit I go on and on myself most of the time too.

bots
30-06-2020, 12:08 PM
he could have said this is a time for austerity, so at least that makes a change

user104658
30-06-2020, 12:11 PM
he could have said this is a time for austerity, so at least that makes a change

Hopefully he's getting proper advice and realises that austerity would make it completely impossible for the economy to recover from the last few months, rather than just "exceptionally difficult" as it already is. The only viable option right now is to kick the national debt into the long grass, pump money in, and hope that it pays off down the line.

Of course, that was a solid argument in 2008 as well but they went with a downward spiral of cuts and lost productivity so who knows how long they'll hold out before deciding it's "belt tightening time" again.

The Slim Reaper
30-06-2020, 12:13 PM
he could have said this is a time for austerity, so at least that makes a change

It's pretty much what it is, the country has been so underfunded over the last decade, that this "investment" isn't even getting us back to even. As an example, he's pledged £1b to a school building program, but ust last year schools were carrying a £5b underfunding black hole.

Pretty sure he also spent more than £1b on no-deal preparation last year, so this is where we are and this is what's being called investment.

arista
30-06-2020, 12:36 PM
yep who's getting a slice of this funding pie? his construction donors, will the houses be fit for purpose?...who cares?!

Dudley Cares
Madame

arista
30-06-2020, 12:39 PM
He's setting the UK up to be fleeced by his private sector mates. He's actually cutting the affordable housing budget at the same time. It's currently £12b over 5 years in the 2020 budget, but he's made that £12b over 8 years.


Yes but still changing Planning Laws.

arista
30-06-2020, 12:41 PM
"last year schools were carrying a £5b underfunding black hole."


Johnson PM
does not view it - that way.

The Slim Reaper
30-06-2020, 02:50 PM
"last year schools were carrying a £5b underfunding black hole."


Johnson PM
does not view it - that way.

Johnson and the truth are rarely aligned. The actual new deal was approx £600b by today's standards.

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Nicky91
30-06-2020, 03:21 PM
EU will allow holiday travel to Thailand, Turkey, Australia again, i heard on the radio


and there is a travel ban on countries such as USA, UK, Russia, Brazil, China


they did this in discussion with governments of those specific countries

arista
30-06-2020, 04:00 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/30/15/30227264-0-image-a-17_1593525798993.jpg

Samm
30-06-2020, 04:03 PM
interesting that most of those are small cities/towns

arista
30-06-2020, 04:08 PM
Today : 155 UK Covid-19 deaths

UK Total of Covid-19 Deaths :43,730

Cherie
30-06-2020, 04:21 PM
Nightengale Hospitals to be used for Cancer testing

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/coronavirus/nightingale-hospitals-to-be-converted-to-cancer-testing-centres/ar-BB169fJR?ocid=spartan-ntp-feeds

Nightingale hospitals will be converted into cancer testing centres in a bid to cope with a backlog in suspected cases, the head of the health service has said.
Sir Simon Stevens said a “radically different” model of testing would be introduced in an attempt to deal with a high volume of patients awaiting tests.
Cancer charities have raised fears this year could see an extra 18,000 deaths from the disease, because of the number of patients who received a later diagnosis, because of the covid crisis.

The Slim Reaper
30-06-2020, 04:30 PM
A really interesting thread if you've got a few mins to have a read.

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Vanessa
30-06-2020, 04:41 PM
I live in Brent :(

user104658
30-06-2020, 05:07 PM
A really interesting thread if you've got a few mins to have a read.

1277885591376535553

That is very interesting and goes a long way to explain a couple of things; severity rates in elderly population (elderly people have low T cell count), high levels of asymptomatic and mild cases in children and young people (children have significantly higher T cell counts) and might also explain some of the other "odd" observations, like TB vaccination (TB vax relies on a T-cell generation response).

Either way, it suggests that even in the absence of a vaccine (which unfortunately, the other side of this twitter thread - poor/short term antibody response - suggests is a real possibility) that eventual population immunity of sorts is likely even if it does become widespread. It'll just become less severe over time, rather than vanishing.

arista
30-06-2020, 05:11 PM
I live in Brent :(


At least you have a Mask.


Hang in there
Vanessa.

arista
30-06-2020, 07:58 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EbnZGMAWkAAB4el?format=jpg&name=small

Zizu
30-06-2020, 08:31 PM
100,000 new infections EVERY day in the States !!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

arista
30-06-2020, 11:01 PM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/3cKsLqFj9ProxGiqjg-VSA/https/media.fyre.co/yALcU2P9RgeHrsAtAlY2_Star%200107.PNG

arista
30-06-2020, 11:02 PM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/cdQa3KHfi-UYqtx7NE2IOg/https/media.fyre.co/OMS10MF4SkehGngBVeV2_Mirror%200107.PNG

arista
30-06-2020, 11:04 PM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/TwFGyr-BIDLd38UdIdyXtg/https/media.fyre.co/PIl1lonSQfCqLkSlBke9_Guardian%200107.PNG

arista
30-06-2020, 11:04 PM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/04A_rI1oxBh6kWQ4xKKDIA/https/media.fyre.co/L3QLA8upQZ25VFEP48Ue_Independent%200107.PNG

arista
30-06-2020, 11:05 PM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/NKWKIOOa7I74-8R4eeLyIw/https/media.fyre.co/lDBmayn6Rlqox0WkWVN7_i%200107.PNG

arista
30-06-2020, 11:06 PM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/vbFxjcOCW3-l6etuTATv9Q/https/media.fyre.co/5Lxm8nTlGTjZfGBafsBQ_Metro%200107.PNG

rusticgal
30-06-2020, 11:07 PM
I live in Brent :(


I grew up in Brent..

arista
30-06-2020, 11:07 PM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/oyS2ij6IhuYoEv11FsJLlg/https/media.fyre.co/qyHEiV8RfWyZq1ct6VLA_Times%200107.PNG

arista
30-06-2020, 11:08 PM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/gqNWZipUkpHJTX3fBxS1rg/https/media.fyre.co/8KboSc93RoOH7dUdtVIa_Express%200107.PNG

Ammi
01-07-2020, 07:49 AM
I live in Brent :(

I grew up in Brent..

..I used to watch The Office and it had this guy in it called David Brent.../..crazy stuff...


..(..I’m not mocking btw, I’m just joking..)...

Kazanne
01-07-2020, 08:19 AM
It seems people really do not get it ,
https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/01/200-people-leicester-street-party-just-days-before-second-lockdown-12926136/?ito=push-notification&ci=20911&si=10298275

arista
01-07-2020, 09:37 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb0zKrTWsAAWmkU?format=jpg&name=small

The Slim Reaper
01-07-2020, 09:39 AM
Another 3 word slogan :laugh:

Ammi
01-07-2020, 10:17 AM
...36 areas are being considered ‘at risk’ and possibly days away from local lockdowns...

Havering

Wiltshire

Wandsworth

Gloucestershire

Ealing

Hammersmith and Fulham

Doncaster

Plymouth

Barking and Dagenham

Westminster

Milton Keynes

Wakefield

Haringey

Medway

Hounslow

Brent

Harrow

Kensington and Chelsea

Slough

Suffolk

Redbridge

Sandwell

Enfield

Tower Hamlets

York

Sunderland

Wigan

Windsor and Maidenhead

Leicester

Gateshead

Isle of Wight

Richmond upon Thames

Portsmouth

Redcar and Cleveland

Derbyshire

Walsall



...(...my own area in Suffolk being one of them...)...

user104658
01-07-2020, 10:21 AM
...36 areas are being considered ‘at risk’ and possibly days away from local lockdowns...

Havering

Wiltshire

Wandsworth

Gloucestershire

Ealing

Hammersmith and Fulham

Doncaster

Plymouth

Barking and Dagenham

Westminster

Milton Keynes

Wakefield

Haringey

Medway

Hounslow

Brent

Harrow

Kensington and Chelsea

Slough

Suffolk

Redbridge

Sandwell

Enfield

Tower Hamlets

York

Sunderland

Wigan

Windsor and Maidenhead

Leicester

Gateshead

Isle of Wight

Richmond upon Thames

Portsmouth

Redcar and Cleveland

Derbyshire

Walsall



...(...my own area in Suffolk being one of them...)...

"But they didn't end lockdown too early"

arista
01-07-2020, 10:22 AM
"my own area in"


You are Tough enough Ammi
you will be ok.

Ammi
01-07-2020, 10:28 AM
"But they didn't end lockdown too early"

..Slow starters and early finishers is our government logo, I think...

Ammi
01-07-2020, 10:28 AM
"my own area in"


You are Tough enough Ammi
you will be ok.

..:love:..

arista
01-07-2020, 10:33 AM
A North Of England Reporter
for the Guardian
on Politics Live BBC2HD
(PMQ's the only day the BBC do that show now)
claims bosses in Leicester are Not separating workers
in a clothes factory.

Hence, the high Covid-19 infection there.

smudgie
01-07-2020, 10:42 AM
These reports of spikes are just stupid.
3 of the northern areas on the list are classed as high, 100%spike.
They have had ONE new case each in the past fortnight.

arista
01-07-2020, 10:49 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/01/01/30249216-0-image-a-37_1593564456630.jpg

No Slim
it is not a dead tory in his bag.
Just household rubbish

The Slim Reaper
01-07-2020, 10:54 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/01/01/30249216-0-image-a-37_1593564456630.jpg

No Slim
it is not a dead tory in his bag.
Just household rubbish

:joker:

arista
01-07-2020, 10:55 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/06/30/22/30244120-8476161-image-a-28_1593554094878.jpg
[Upper Crust owner SSP Group is axing up
to 5,000 UK jobs (pictured, in Marylebone Station)]

Upper Crust in stations
not getting the customers , they used to
before China's Covid-19 wrecked the world.

arista
01-07-2020, 11:02 AM
Johnson PM is live all media
PMQ's

joeysteele
01-07-2020, 11:12 AM
Johnson just seems to have a mental block of being in permanent almost denial.
He really has no genuine answers here just sidestepping speeches.

Just answer directly the questions for goodness sake.

He's off on an election speech now of all we got from him yesterday.
What an utter shambles.

Nicky91
01-07-2020, 11:22 AM
Covid in Netherlands, main changes from July 1

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/07/coronavirus-in-the-netherlands-the-main-changes-from-july-1/


*The 1.5 metre social distancing rule remains the norm, as do hygiene measures, including washing your hands regularly. If you have symptoms, stay home and get a test.

*Children up to the age of 12 do not have to keep their distance from adults, which means they can again hug their grandparents.

*Children aged 12 to 18 do not have to keep their distance from their peers, but must stay 1.5 metres from adults, apart from their parents.

*The 1.5 metre social distancing rule will no longer apply on public transport – as long as people are seated – but masks will remain compulsory.

*People can also sit next to each other in coaches and non-family groups can travel in the same car. Masks are recommended.

*Outdoor events will no longer have a maximum number of visitors as long as social distancing is observed and people are seated and have booked places in advance. Without reservations, the limit is 250.

*Indoor events have a limit of 100 people excluding staff. Seating is compulsory. However, if spaces have been reserved in advance, and visitors answer questions about their health, and observe the 1.5 metre rule, there is no limit on the number of guests.

*Stadiums such as the Kuip and Arena can reopen for events, as long as people keep 1.5 metres distance and do not sing or chant.

*Cafe terraces can ditch the 1.5 metre rule between tables, if they place protective screens instead.

*Coffee shops, which had been confined to takeaways only, can also function as a cafe again.Sex workers can start work again, as long as they keep to protocols.

*Saunas, ports schools and gyms can reopen, and competitive sports can also resume.

*The limit on visits to people in nursing homes is also being lifted.However, night clubs and discos remain closed and singing in large groups, including in churches, remains banned because of the risk of infection.

some of our easing down measures starting as of today here in Netherlands :)

joeysteele
01-07-2020, 11:23 AM
Furthermore, after a long series of really good in the main Speakers.
I have to say, the present one is already a dismal disappointment.

Terrible choice in my view.

Nicky91
01-07-2020, 11:27 AM
all of these decisions have been thoroughly reviewed and debated by our OMT (outbreak management team)

arista
01-07-2020, 12:45 PM
Johnson just seems to have a mental block of being in permanent almost denial.
He really has no genuine answers here just sidestepping speeches.

Just answer directly the questions for goodness sake.

He's off on an election speech now of all we got from him yesterday.
What an utter shambles.



Yes Joey
the Labour Leader was correct
to tell the PM many times
"he can not keep brushing this away"

hijaxers
01-07-2020, 02:57 PM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/vbFxjcOCW3-l6etuTATv9Q/https/media.fyre.co/5Lxm8nTlGTjZfGBafsBQ_Metro%200107.PNG

Good luck with getting voted in again Mayor ~ i'd want you long gone, and what a complete fool you look up a ladder ! lucky he never fell off needing hospital treatment. Clown.

arista
01-07-2020, 02:58 PM
176 Deaths Covid-19 today

UK total 43,906 Covid-19 deaths

hijaxers
01-07-2020, 03:01 PM
Johnson just seems to have a mental block of being in permanent almost denial.
He really has no genuine answers here just sidestepping speeches.

Just answer directly the questions for goodness sake.

He's off on an election speech now of all we got from him yesterday.
What an utter shambles.

I think most people are completely dismayed by Boris now and cheesed off eith his lack off answers to just about everything.

Strictly Jake
01-07-2020, 03:40 PM
This made me laugh about Boris just thought id share
https://www.instagram.com/p/CBnm492prYQ/?igshid=u6zbn500dj68

arista
01-07-2020, 04:13 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/01/15/30274318-0-image-m-14_1593615312910.jpg

user104658
01-07-2020, 05:12 PM
176 Deaths Covid-19 today


These numbers aren't great guys. I don't think you're going to get them averaging under 100/day before they start edging back up.

Ammi
01-07-2020, 05:57 PM
These numbers aren't great guys. I don't think you're going to get them averaging under 100/day before they start edging back up.

...it was always too early and his phases have always been too messy and too unclear...I find him to have no leadership qualities whatsoever... here is the full list of areas showing the number of cases per 100,000 population...



Leicester 140.2
Bradford 69.4
Barnsley 54.7
Rochdale 53.6
Bedford 42.0
Oldham 38.6
Rotherham 33.6
Tameside 33.3
Blackburn with Darwen 32.9
Kirklees 30.3
Peterborough 27.9
Luton 26.6
Derby 24.5
Hull 22.6
Manchester 21.6
Southend-on-Sea 20.8
Leicestershire 20.8
Sheffield 20.6
Leeds 19.8
Wirral 19.2
Wakefield 18.6
Stoke-on-Trent 18.0
Doncaster 17.4
Cheshire East 16.0
Central Bedfordshire 15.9
Bolton 15.8
Lancashire 15.0
Northamptonshire 14.9
Stockton-on-Tees 14.7
East Riding of Yorkshire 14.1
North Yorkshire 13.8
Shropshire 13.7
Kent 13.5
Slough 13.4
Bury 13.2
Nottinghamshire 12.6
Calderdale 12.4
Stockport 12.3
Cheshire West & Chester 12.3
Thurrock 12.2
Milton Keynes 10.8
Blackpool 10.8
Nottingham 10.6
Swindon 10.4
Warwickshire 10.3
Salford 10.2
Trafford 10.2
Wolverhampton 9.9
Derbyshire 9.7
Birmingham 9.6
Staffordshire 9.4
Warrington 9.1
East Sussex 9.0
Telford & Wrekin 8.4
Sefton 8.4
Middlesbrough 7.8
Kensington & Chelsea 7.7
Hounslow 7.4
Sandwell 7.3
York 6.7
St. Helens 6.7
Liverpool 6.3
Halton 6.2
Medway 6.1
Buckinghamshire 6.1
Knowsley 6.0
Hammersmith & Fulham 5.9
Essex 5.8
Cumbria 5.8
Worcestershire 5.7
Coventry 5.7
Lincolnshire 5.7
Southampton 5.5
Wigan 5.5
Waltham Forest 5.4
Newcastle upon Tyne 5.3
Brighton & Hove 5.2
Brent 5.1
County Durham 5.1
Oxfordshire 5.1
Westminster 5.1
Cambridgeshire 5.1
North Tyneside 4.9
Darlington 4.7
North Lincolnshire 4.7
Solihull 4.7
Somerset 4.7
Hertfordshire 4.6
Walsall 4.6
Bexley 4.5
Merton 4.4
Norfolk 4.3
Hartlepool 4.3
Bracknell Forest 4.1
Ealing 4.1
Dudley 3.7
Surrey 3.7
Redbridge 3.6
Southwark 3.5
Gateshead 3.5
Northumberland 3.4
Newham 3.4
West Sussex 3.3
Greenwich 3.1
Islington 2.9
Isle of Wight 2.8
Tower Hamlets 2.8
Wandsworth 2.8
Enfield 2.7
Hillingdon 2.6
Haringey 2.6
Rutland 2.5
Hackney 2.5
Barnet 2.3
Bromley 2.1
Herefordshire 2.1
Windsor and Maidenhead 2.0
Lewisham 2.0
Sutton 2.0
Bristol 1.9
Havering 1.9
Camden 1.9
North East Lincolnshire 1.9
Reading 1.8
Sunderland 1.8
Harrow 1.6
Croydon 1.6
Plymouth 1.5
Suffolk 1.5
Barking & Dagenham 1.4
North Somerset 1.4
Bournemouth, Christchurch & Poole 1.3
Hampshire 1.2
Wiltshire 1.2
Kingston upon Thames 1.1
Dorset 1.1
Bath & North East Somerset 1.0
Richmond upon Thames 1.0
Devon 1.0
Portsmouth 0.9
Lambeth 0.9
Torbay 0.7
Redcar & Cleveland 0.7
Cornwall & Isles of Scilly 0.7
Gloucestershire 0.6
Wokingham 0.6
South Gloucestershire 0.4
City of London 0.0
South Tyneside 0.0
West Berkshire 0.0



...what I don’t understand is my area, Suffolk is oooooo, right down there at the bottom...and yet it’s one of the at risk areas which is being monitored for a possible local lockdown...
..

Ammi
01-07-2020, 05:57 PM
...that’s a long ass post with all of those areas listed...

bots
01-07-2020, 06:03 PM
there are pockets of the virus, but the vast majority of England is fine. If there was going to be a spike then it would have happened by now in london for sure. I'm not going to lie, i think the relaxing of the distancing is dumb and I think the numbers will go back up when the pubs open up

Cherie
01-07-2020, 06:07 PM
Just picking out Havering there, that was one of the ‘hotspots’ named yesterday..1.9 lol
The press continue to be abysmal ...what have they done in Leicester to have that rate?

joeysteele
01-07-2020, 06:17 PM
Another day with deaths of 176 this time, over 300 deaths in the last 3 days.

Not a mention from this pathetic PM or his Ministers as to condolences to those bereaved.
Like these are routine deaths of less and less importance to them.

Around 700 deaths last week.

I'm sorry but I find this disgraceful that any PM and government can be so uncaring to not even publicly reveal sympathies to the bereaved.

By all powers that be, this government for its lack of understanding and compassion on these deaths,thousands unnecessary too.
This government needs a massive condemnation of these losses of important loved ones by any future investigative body, which will investigate the handling of this pandemic.

It should be, and already is to me for one, a national scandal.

arista
01-07-2020, 08:09 PM
Nicola Sturgeon is refusing to rule out
quarantine on arrivals from England

MTVN
01-07-2020, 08:12 PM
...it was always too early and his phases have always been too messy and too unclear...I find him to have no leadership qualities whatsoever... here is the full list of areas showing the number of cases per 100,000 population...



Leicester 140.2
Bradford 69.4
Barnsley 54.7
Rochdale 53.6
Bedford 42.0
Oldham 38.6
Rotherham 33.6
Tameside 33.3
Blackburn with Darwen 32.9
Kirklees 30.3
Peterborough 27.9
Luton 26.6
Derby 24.5
Hull 22.6
Manchester 21.6
Southend-on-Sea 20.8
Leicestershire 20.8
Sheffield 20.6
Leeds 19.8
Wirral 19.2
Wakefield 18.6
Stoke-on-Trent 18.0
Doncaster 17.4
Cheshire East 16.0
Central Bedfordshire 15.9
Bolton 15.8
Lancashire 15.0
Northamptonshire 14.9
Stockton-on-Tees 14.7
East Riding of Yorkshire 14.1
North Yorkshire 13.8
Shropshire 13.7
Kent 13.5
Slough 13.4
Bury 13.2
Nottinghamshire 12.6
Calderdale 12.4
Stockport 12.3
Cheshire West & Chester 12.3
Thurrock 12.2
Milton Keynes 10.8
Blackpool 10.8
Nottingham 10.6
Swindon 10.4
Warwickshire 10.3
Salford 10.2
Trafford 10.2
Wolverhampton 9.9
Derbyshire 9.7
Birmingham 9.6
Staffordshire 9.4
Warrington 9.1
East Sussex 9.0
Telford & Wrekin 8.4
Sefton 8.4
Middlesbrough 7.8
Kensington & Chelsea 7.7
Hounslow 7.4
Sandwell 7.3
York 6.7
St. Helens 6.7
Liverpool 6.3
Halton 6.2
Medway 6.1
Buckinghamshire 6.1
Knowsley 6.0
Hammersmith & Fulham 5.9
Essex 5.8
Cumbria 5.8
Worcestershire 5.7
Coventry 5.7
Lincolnshire 5.7
Southampton 5.5
Wigan 5.5
Waltham Forest 5.4
Newcastle upon Tyne 5.3
Brighton & Hove 5.2
Brent 5.1
County Durham 5.1
Oxfordshire 5.1
Westminster 5.1
Cambridgeshire 5.1
North Tyneside 4.9
Darlington 4.7
North Lincolnshire 4.7
Solihull 4.7
Somerset 4.7
Hertfordshire 4.6
Walsall 4.6
Bexley 4.5
Merton 4.4
Norfolk 4.3
Hartlepool 4.3
Bracknell Forest 4.1
Ealing 4.1
Dudley 3.7
Surrey 3.7
Redbridge 3.6
Southwark 3.5
Gateshead 3.5
Northumberland 3.4
Newham 3.4
West Sussex 3.3
Greenwich 3.1
Islington 2.9
Isle of Wight 2.8
Tower Hamlets 2.8
Wandsworth 2.8
Enfield 2.7
Hillingdon 2.6
Haringey 2.6
Rutland 2.5
Hackney 2.5
Barnet 2.3
Bromley 2.1
Herefordshire 2.1
Windsor and Maidenhead 2.0
Lewisham 2.0
Sutton 2.0
Bristol 1.9
Havering 1.9
Camden 1.9
North East Lincolnshire 1.9
Reading 1.8
Sunderland 1.8
Harrow 1.6
Croydon 1.6
Plymouth 1.5
Suffolk 1.5
Barking & Dagenham 1.4
North Somerset 1.4
Bournemouth, Christchurch & Poole 1.3
Hampshire 1.2
Wiltshire 1.2
Kingston upon Thames 1.1
Dorset 1.1
Bath & North East Somerset 1.0
Richmond upon Thames 1.0
Devon 1.0
Portsmouth 0.9
Lambeth 0.9
Torbay 0.7
Redcar & Cleveland 0.7
Cornwall & Isles of Scilly 0.7
Gloucestershire 0.6
Wokingham 0.6
South Gloucestershire 0.4
City of London 0.0
South Tyneside 0.0
West Berkshire 0.0



...what I don’t understand is my area, Suffolk is oooooo, right down there at the bottom...and yet it’s one of the at risk areas which is being monitored for a possible local lockdown...
..

Gloucestershire were named as one of the 36 who could face lockdown as well and there we are at 0.6

There's a lot of warnings being raised now about misleading reports on areas being 'close to lockdown': https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/53248531

Vanessa
01-07-2020, 08:19 PM
Nicola Sturgeon is refusing to rule out
quarantine on arrivals from England

No problem. Thjs year I'm staying in England for my holidays.

Vanessa
01-07-2020, 08:21 PM
Brent area not as bad as I thought.
Fingers crossed things improve
.

joeysteele
01-07-2020, 08:55 PM
Nicola Sturgeon is refusing to rule out
quarantine on arrivals from England

I'm not surprised.

Really nothing should be ruled out with still much uncertainty with this rotten virus.

arista
02-07-2020, 12:35 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/E27A/production/_113187975_express.png

arista
02-07-2020, 12:36 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/12CB2/production/_113187967_metrop1july2.png

arista
02-07-2020, 12:36 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/463A/production/_113187971_telegraph.png

arista
02-07-2020, 12:37 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/6D4A/production/_113187972_guardian.png

arista
02-07-2020, 12:38 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/17AD2/production/_113187969_mirror.png

joeysteele
02-07-2020, 07:19 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/17AD2/production/_113187969_mirror.png

Very true and should be really thought provoking.

arista
02-07-2020, 08:02 AM
A Possible Covid-19 change

[Scotland has been taking a distinctly
more cautious approach to
easing restrictions, and there have even been
claims that the SNP is using the crisis
to fuel the drive for independence.]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/01/18/30279386-8479621-image-a-22_1593623276445.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8479621/Boris-Johnson-tears-Nicola-Sturgeon-quarantine-threat.html

arista
02-07-2020, 08:36 AM
Today The Education Secretary
is to lay out his plans for
September Schools Return for all.

joeysteele
02-07-2020, 08:40 AM
Today The Education Secretary
is to lay out his plans for
September Schools Return for all.

I really cannot stand this man.
I'd like to think he tones down his more ugly threatening stance as to his plans.

Presumably he knows, unlike anyone else, just what the situation will be in areas or across the Nation in September!

He may think he does in his arrogance.
In reality likely not however.

user104658
02-07-2020, 08:45 AM
A Possible Covid-19 change

[Scotland has been taking a distinctly
more cautious approach to
easing restrictions, and there have even been
claims that the SNP is using the crisis
to fuel the drive for independence.]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/01/18/30279386-8479621-image-a-22_1593623276445.jpg

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8479621/Boris-Johnson-tears-Nicola-Sturgeon-quarantine-threat.html

There's only one person politicising covid here and it's Mr Johnson... and the fact that he would try to insist on free travel between England and Scotland even if the virus was under control in Scotland, and having a second spike in England... to make a political point... is nothing short of sociopathy.

joeysteele
02-07-2020, 09:08 AM
There's only one person politicising covid here and it's Mr Johnson... and the fact that he would try to insist on free travel between England and Scotland even if the virus was under control in Scotland, and having a second spike in England... to make a political point... is nothing short of sociopathy.

I totally agree with you here TS.

The Scottish administration has to keep all its options open.

arista
02-07-2020, 09:12 AM
I really cannot stand this man.
I'd like to think he tones down his more ugly threatening stance as to his plans.

Presumably he knows, unlike anyone else, just what the situation will be in areas or across the Nation in September!

He may think he does in his arrogance.
In reality likely not however.


Yes many do not like MP Gavin Williamson CBE
the wants bubbles for the kids

joeysteele
02-07-2020, 10:09 AM
Yes many do not like MP Gavin Williamson CBE
the wants bubbles for the kids

Well, this sounds another recipe for possible disastrous results.

I wonder what Parents think of having said as long as social distancing was in place, it should be fine..
That he's now not going to enforce social distancing.

Yet these children will be returning home to adults and wider family , teachers to their families too.

I'd like to see completely any proper scientific advice as to this.
It sounds both suspect and worryingly risky.

Ammi
02-07-2020, 10:23 AM
...when Boris said there was no such thing as a border between Scotland and a England, did he attempt a Scottish accent there...?...


...it’s surely no different to the local lockdown in Leicester atm, in that travelling in and out of there is discouraged...which is essentially what Nicola is trying to do, to safeguard lives...Boris is talking about the tourist industry/Nicola is talking about people’s lives and health...

joeysteele
02-07-2020, 10:35 AM
...when Boris said there was no such thing as a border between Scotland and a England, did he attempt a Scottish accent there...?...


...it’s surely no different to the local lockdown in Leicester atm, in that travelling in and out of there is discouraged...which is essentially what Nicola is trying to do, to safeguard lives...Boris is talking about the tourist industry/Nicola is talking about people’s lives and health...


Dead right Ammi.
Frankly I kind of wish she was influencing things in England.

She's talked far more sense and more compassionately than the present resident, sadly, of 10 Downing Street.
In my view anyway.

The Slim Reaper
02-07-2020, 11:23 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb5yzPZWAAEXngo?format=jpg&name=large

Cherie
02-07-2020, 11:33 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb5yzPZWAAEXngo?format=jpg&name=large

Covid proofing his home :hehe:

Cherie
02-07-2020, 11:33 AM
Nicola Sturgeon is refusing to rule out
quarantine on arrivals from England

meh

bots
02-07-2020, 12:03 PM
i just watched the Scottish briefing, and they now have the if this then that just as England ... so i don't see how its more clear in Scotland than England, they are just a couple of weeks behind

user104658
02-07-2020, 12:14 PM
i just watched the Scottish briefing, and they now have the if this then that just as England ... so i don't see how its more clear in Scotland than England, they are just a couple of weeks behind

Scotland is now at between 0 and 3 deaths per day (usually 0 or 1) so the situation is entirely different, England is still regularly recording 150+ deaths per day. The couple of weeks may well have been the difference, there may be other factors, but it's very hard to argue that the situations are comparable any more - even adjusting for population size.

arista
02-07-2020, 01:24 PM
Scotland new Rule

At the End of Next week
All people must wear a Mask
in every Scottish Shop

James
02-07-2020, 03:12 PM
Nicola Sturgeon is refusing to rule out
quarantine on arrivals from England

This is nonsense.

Look at the latest figures for coronavirus cases in Scotland.


Data by health board

Health Board
Total confirmed cases to date
People in hospital at midnight (confirmed)
People in intensive care at midnight (confirmed or suspected)

Ayrshire and Arran
1,255 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Borders
345 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Dumfries and Galloway
292 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Fife
930 confirmed cases
47 in hospital
* in intensive care

Forth Valley
1,070 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Grampian
1,423 confirmed cases
43 in hospital
* in intensive care

Greater Glasgow and Clyde
4,858 confirmed cases
197 in hospital
* in intensive care

Highland
375 confirmed cases
6 in hospital
* in intensive care

Lanarkshire
2,726 confirmed cases
31 in hospital
* in intensive care

Lothian
3,151 confirmed cases
101 in hospital
* in intensive care

Orkney
9 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Shetland
54 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Tayside
1,769 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Eileanan Siar (Western Isles)
7 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Golden Jubilee National Hospital
n/a confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Scotland
18,264 confirmed cases
432 in hospital
9 in intensive care


https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

Borders & Dumfries and Galloway, which are closest to England, have lower numbers of cases than a lot of other parts of Scotland, even when you take the different populations into account.

...when Boris said there was no such thing as a border between Scotland and a England, did he attempt a Scottish accent there...?...


...it’s surely no different to the local lockdown in Leicester atm, in that travelling in and out of there is discouraged...which is essentially what Nicola is trying to do, to safeguard lives...Boris is talking about the tourist industry/Nicola is talking about people’s lives and health...

The difference with Leicester is that it is only one city that is 'quarantined' (or travel discouraged) to the rest of the country. The equivalent measure would be to lockdown Gretna and Annan or wherever the spike is, however, they are talking here about cutting off the whole of England.

Imagine the SNP reaction if it was reversed and England stopped travel from Scotland.

joeysteele
02-07-2020, 03:43 PM
Scotland new Rule

At the End of Next week
All people must wear a Mask
in every Scottish Shop

That should be the same here in England, and for shop and store staff too in my view.

At least Sturgeon acts, doesn't mess about.

Cherie
02-07-2020, 03:54 PM
ONS say its 1 in 200000 infections in England now....Leicester is a mystery as it stands alone in its infection rate

Ammi
02-07-2020, 03:55 PM
This is nonsense.

Look at the latest figures for coronavirus cases in Scotland.


Data by health board

Health Board
Total confirmed cases to date
People in hospital at midnight (confirmed)
People in intensive care at midnight (confirmed or suspected)

Ayrshire and Arran
1,255 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Borders
345 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Dumfries and Galloway
292 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Fife
930 confirmed cases
47 in hospital
* in intensive care

Forth Valley
1,070 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Grampian
1,423 confirmed cases
43 in hospital
* in intensive care

Greater Glasgow and Clyde
4,858 confirmed cases
197 in hospital
* in intensive care

Highland
375 confirmed cases
6 in hospital
* in intensive care

Lanarkshire
2,726 confirmed cases
31 in hospital
* in intensive care

Lothian
3,151 confirmed cases
101 in hospital
* in intensive care

Orkney
9 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Shetland
54 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Tayside
1,769 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Eileanan Siar (Western Isles)
7 confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Golden Jubilee National Hospital
n/a confirmed cases
* in hospital
* in intensive care

Scotland
18,264 confirmed cases
432 in hospital
9 in intensive care


https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-daily-data-for-scotland/

Borders & Dumfries and Galloway, which are closest to England, have lower numbers of cases than a lot of other parts of Scotland, even when you take the different populations into account.



The difference with Leicester is that it is only one city that is 'quarantined' (or travel discouraged) to the rest of the country. The equivalent measure would be to lockdown Gretna and Annan or wherever the spike is, however, they are talking here about cutting off the whole of England.

Imagine the SNP reaction if it was reversed and England stopped travel from Scotland.



...isn’t she saying exactly that...that it shouldn’t be politicised, which any comparison of thought to an SNP reaction would be doing...this should be about preserving health and health systems as a primary action and not about politics at all...tbh, I find it staggering and lacking in any self awareness that Boris Johnson of all people should declare her words to be.. 'astonishing and shameful' ...

arista
02-07-2020, 04:06 PM
Live Downing St.
5PM Its the Education Sec.
And adviser
Briefing.

arista
02-07-2020, 04:07 PM
Scotland is delaying the Air bridges announcement
they claim its coming tomorrow.

joeysteele
02-07-2020, 04:12 PM
Live Downing St.
5PM Its the Education Sec.
And adviser
Briefing.

Oh good grief.
He near sends me to sleep.
Only good thing about him actually.

James
02-07-2020, 04:18 PM
Scotland new Rule

At the End of Next week
All people must wear a Mask
in every Scottish Shop

That should be the same here in England, and for shop and store staff too in my view.

At least Sturgeon acts, doesn't mess about.

Guaranteed Nicola has only done this to look ahead of the curve compared to Boris.

If masks were the right thing to do why weren't they requiring them back in March - May, when the virus was at its peak?

joeysteele
02-07-2020, 04:23 PM
Guaranteed Nicola has only done this to look ahead of the curve compared to Boris.

If masks were the right thing to do why weren't they requiring them back in March - May, when the virus was at it's peak?



Well I think they've always been necessary but at least she is doing it.

Not pussyfooting about like Johnson, saying we have to wear them on public transport while not in shops of any size or stores either.

I've worn a face covering or mask since mid March.
To me it's ridiculous the UK government hasn't insisted on it at all throughout.

So yes, later in the day but she's done it..
Full credit from me to her for doing so too.

I also think, even moreso now as restrictions are being relaxed,.
It's probably more necessary to wear them now.

arista
02-07-2020, 04:54 PM
Covid-19

Café Rouge and Bella Italia
owner falls into administration

[Ninety one Casual Dining Group outlets
will close immediately, and 1,900 of the
firm's 6,000 staff will lose their jobs.

Administrators Alix Partners are seeking offers
for all or parts of the remaining business.
There have been thousands of job losses announced
this week as the coronavirus continues
to batter the UK economy.
Casual Dining Group, which also owns the
Las Iguanas chain, said it hoped a
new owner could save the firm.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53270679

user104658
02-07-2020, 05:19 PM
Covid-19

Café Rouge and Bella Italia
owner falls into administration


I thought this happened a while ago? My friend who works in Edinbugh was bawling about Café Rouge going bust a couple of months back. Can't say I;ve ever been in one.

Then again, he's in finance so maybe he had early info.

Cherie
02-07-2020, 05:40 PM
Well I think they've always been necessary but at least she is doing it.

Not pussyfooting about like Johnson, saying we have to wear them on public transport while not in shops of any size or stores either.

I've worn a face covering or mask since mid March.
To me it's ridiculous the UK government hasn't insisted on it at all throughout.

So yes, later in the day but she's done it..
Full credit from me to her for doing so too.

I also think, even moreso now as restrictions are being relaxed,.
It's probably more necessary to wear them now.


Transport police are going to switch from encouraging users of public transport to use face coverings to refusing entry or fining/prosecuting so even mandating it doesn’t ensure 100 per cent compliance unfortunately

arista
02-07-2020, 05:48 PM
Today : 45 Covid-19 Deaths

UK Total of Covid-19 Deaths : 43,951

bots
02-07-2020, 05:56 PM
I thought this happened a while ago? My friend who works in Edinbugh was bawling about Café Rouge going bust a couple of months back. Can't say I;ve ever been in one.

Then again, he's in finance so maybe he had early info.

they said they were in trouble a couple of months ago and looking for solutions. They were in trouble before lockdown though so this has just made it worse

arista
02-07-2020, 06:22 PM
1278695766480105472

arista
02-07-2020, 06:25 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eb7y6I0XQAA7TA6?format=jpg&name=900x900

MTVN
02-07-2020, 07:01 PM
1278636551866658816

Kizzy
02-07-2020, 08:08 PM
She needs to do what can to protect the Scottish... if they have this under control I think she's right to restrict movement.

MTVN
02-07-2020, 08:38 PM
1278786212279566336

Lowest cases and (weekday) deaths in months

arista
03-07-2020, 01:50 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/B39D/production/_113218954_express.png

arista
03-07-2020, 01:51 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/124E5/production/_113218947_ifrontpage3july.png

arista
03-07-2020, 03:47 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/02/22/30331424-0-image-a-30_1593725502694.jpg


Thick Mask
how will we hear you..................

arista
03-07-2020, 05:08 AM
Green Nations:
Germany
Italy
Turkey
Thailand.

Amber Nations:
France
Spain
Greece
Australia
New Zealand

Red Nations (blocked travel)
USA
Brazil
Russia
Iran.

According to GMBHD itv

The List will be Reviewed
Daily, though.
Today Johnson PM will announce
Air Bridges to start on the 10th of July

Ammi
03-07-2020, 05:11 AM
...so what are we then, Arista..?...

arista
03-07-2020, 05:24 AM
...so what are we then, Arista..?...


Red.


On NewsnightHD BBC2
They said Scottish can drive down to Manchester Airport
avoiding their rules.

arista
03-07-2020, 05:30 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/02/22/30331428-0-image-a-31_1593725511798.jpg
Yes Madame
you have enough Clothes
for Spain.

arista
03-07-2020, 08:13 AM
The PM is Live on LBC

joeysteele
03-07-2020, 08:28 AM
He really is annoying.
He has been hyping up this relaxation of the lockdown.

I know more based to aid the economy, which needs to be done but with maximum safety.
However, he's used terms like get the bustle back.
Presenting a more carefree attitude to the relaxations and building up to the media terms of super Saturday tripe.

The media have been terrible near all through this pandemic overall.

Now he's pleading for not to be reckless after all the hype of the last weeks.
He's like he's deranged.

He should have been the steadying, calming, responsible voice of seeing the UK totally through this pandemic.

Not flip and flop from demanding caution and then seemingly throwing caution to the wind.

arista
03-07-2020, 11:36 AM
TS

No more bragging

You have One Sad death in Scotland

Oliver_W
03-07-2020, 12:40 PM
BoJo's failure to call out Dominick Cummings or his father for their little excursions are pretty damning...

Cherie
03-07-2020, 12:43 PM
TS

No more bragging

You have One Sad death in Scotland

Dumfries and Galloway are not coming out of lockdown :fan:

James
03-07-2020, 01:01 PM
Dumfries and Galloway are not coming out of lockdown :fan:

Doesn't make sense based on the numbers I posted on the previous page.

bots
03-07-2020, 01:11 PM
Doesn't make sense based on the numbers I posted on the previous page.

I was laughing at the briefing yesterday, there was a spokesman talking about the region and how clearly people had not been social distancing, he then went on to say that he didn't want to blame anyone but these people were being selfish, they are tying up valuable resources and people will know who it is :laugh:

user104658
03-07-2020, 01:28 PM
Doesn't make sense based on the numbers I posted on the previous page.There's a spike in D&G because of overspill from the North of England. It bolsters the case for quarantining at the border, it doesn't lessen it.

user104658
03-07-2020, 01:30 PM
Dumfries and Galloway are not coming out of lockdown :fan:Not sure if you're brushed up on Scottish geography Cherie but that's the county that sits on the English border.

Cherie
03-07-2020, 01:31 PM
Doesn't make sense based on the numbers I posted on the previous page.

You are right it doesn’t, maybe just trying to bolster her point about the border :shrug:

user104658
03-07-2020, 01:32 PM
TS

No more bragging

You have One Sad death in ScotlandThere were 3 a couple of days ago, I've repeatedly said that the consistent number is between 0 and 3, and it's not about "bragging" ffs. It's about pii ting out that numbers are lower and wanting to keep them that way? Apparently some in England find that offensive, "if we still have it bad here then why should YOU have less?".

Just ridiculous.

user104658
03-07-2020, 01:34 PM
You are right it doesn’t, maybe just trying to bolster her point about the border :shrug:There has been a spike in cases because people in D&G regularly cross the border, as the closest large towns and cities in the North of England are closer than Glasgow or Edinburgh. The spike is specifically because of D&G residents travelling to English cities. Sorry if that's tough to hear?

joeysteele
03-07-2020, 01:34 PM
There's a spike in D&G because of overspill from the North of England. It bolsters the case for quarantining at the border, it doesn't lessen it.

That would make perfect sense definitely.

Cherie
03-07-2020, 01:34 PM
:vNot sure if you're brushed up on Scottish geography Cherie but that's the county that sits on the English border.

Just looked at James figures again, how do you explain it?

Ayrshire and Arran
1,255 confirmed cases

Dumfries and Galloway
292 confirmed cases


?

Cherie
03-07-2020, 01:36 PM
That would make perfect sense definitely.

It would if the numbers stacked up but they dont :shrug:

bots
03-07-2020, 01:37 PM
There were 3 a couple of days ago, I've repeatedly said that the consistent number is between 0 and 3, and it's not about "bragging" ffs. It's about pii ting out that numbers are lower and wanting to keep them that way? Apparently some in England find that offensive, "if we still have it bad here then why should YOU have less?".

Just ridiculous.

i agree it's not a pissing contest, but ... loook at the graph below for London which has a much higher population than Scotland and a much higher population density ... the figures are consistantly downward ... that is just as great a result as Scotland

https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/styles/gla_large_unconstrained/public/weekly_covid_deaths_in_london_hospitals.png

Cherie
03-07-2020, 01:44 PM
Not sure if you're brushed up on Scottish geography Cherie but that's the county that sits on the English border.

You are right I had no idea, but its very suspect now I do know :suspect:

Mystic Mock
03-07-2020, 01:47 PM
i agree it's not a pissing contest, but ... loook at the graph below for London which has a much higher population than Scotland and a much higher population density ... the figures are consistantly downward ... that is just as great a result as Scotland

https://www.london.gov.uk/sites/default/files/styles/gla_large_unconstrained/public/weekly_covid_deaths_in_london_hospitals.png

That's London's chart?:shocked:

That's an impressive turnaround.

user104658
03-07-2020, 01:48 PM
:v

Just looked at James figures again, how do you explain it?

Ayrshire and Arran
1,255 confirmed cases

Dumfries and Galloway
292 confirmed cases


?Those figures are totals not current active cases? No one has disputed that cases were just as active in Scotland as England at the peak... They correlated almost exactly with English figures, accounting for population numbers (e.g. Scotland was at about 100 deaths/day when England was at 1000 deaths/day, with a 10x population difference). Ayrshire & Arran is the 3rd most densely populated region of the country, after Greater Glasgow, and Lothian (Edinburgh).

Number have dropped significantly more and faster than the North of England, to very low levels, and now the only (small) spike is due to overspill from Northern English cities.

I'm baffled at how, or why, anyone would be desperate to deny this other than for partisan political reasons (e.g. James having a significant history of distrusting the SNP and being heavily pro union.)

I'm aware that there are also regions of England that are in a similar situation when it comes to the numbers having been brought down to very low levels successfully. If they had the ability to close borders, I'd suggest it would be a very sensible move for them, too.

They shouldn't deny Scotland the choice of doing so just because they can't. "Well if we can't then you can't! Hmph!".

If it's the sensible choice in terms of keeping infection rates down then it should be done. Simple as that.

arista
03-07-2020, 03:04 PM
Johnson PM
is Live 5PM
With the Airport briefing and other Stuff

Downing St.

Cherie
03-07-2020, 03:06 PM
Those figures are totals not current active cases? No one has disputed that cases were just as active in Scotland as England at the peak... They correlated almost exactly with English figures, accounting for population numbers (e.g. Scotland was at about 100 deaths/day when England was at 1000 deaths/day, with a 10x population difference). Ayrshire & Arran is the 3rd most densely populated region of the country, after Greater Glasgow, and Lothian (Edinburgh).

Number have dropped significantly more and faster than the North of England, to very low levels, and now the only (small) spike is due to overspill from Northern English cities.

I'm baffled at how, or why, anyone would be desperate to deny this other than for partisan political reasons (e.g. James having a significant history of distrusting the SNP and being heavily pro union.)

I'm aware that there are also regions of England that are in a similar situation when it comes to the numbers having been brought down to very low levels successfully. If they had the ability to close borders, I'd suggest it would be a very sensible move for them, too.

They shouldn't deny Scotland the choice of doing so just because they can't. "Well if we can't then you can't! Hmph!".

If it's the sensible choice in terms of keeping infection rates down then it should be done. Simple as that.

I have no problem with you guys closing borders, not sure how it would work though, people cross the border to go to work, then you have all the Scottish people who reside in England but have family in Scotland, shut it to tourists maybe? But then don’t pop up at PMQS in a months time looking for a tourism bailout :idc:

arista
03-07-2020, 03:09 PM
Any Is Scotland
simply drive or get a lift to Manchester Airport

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/03/00/30335628-8485367-image-a-3_1593734245187.jpg

arista
03-07-2020, 03:11 PM
The 60 nations you can travel to

[Note : Greece won't be on the list in the
first place because Greece have said
that on July 15 that's their next review
of their own systems.
'Reciprocity can't come before July 15
for Greece and that is a matter
for Greece themselves.']

Andorra

Antigua and Barbuda

Aruba

Australia

Austria

Bahamas

Barbados

Belgium

Bonaire, Sint Eustatius and Saba

Croatia

Curaçao

Cyprus

Czech Republic

Denmark

Dominica

Faroe Islands

Fiji

Finland

France

French Polynesia

Germany

Greece

Greenland

Grenada

Guadeloupe

Hong Kong

Hungary

Iceland

Ireland

Italy

Jamaica

Japan

Liechtenstein

Lithuania

Luxembourg

Macau

Malta

Mauritius

Monaco

Netherlands

New Caledonia

New Zealand

Norway

Poland

Réunion

San Marino

Serbia

Seychelles

South Korea

Spain

St Barthélemy

St Kitts and Nevis

St Lucia

St Pierre and Miquelon

Switzerland

Taiwan

Trinidad and Tobago

Turkey

Vatican City

Vietnam

All British Overseas Territories

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8486273/Grant-Shapps-FINALLY-unveil-safe-countries-holidays-TODAY.html

MTVN
03-07-2020, 03:14 PM
Holiday to Liechtenstein is back on :dance:

arista
03-07-2020, 03:50 PM
Holiday to Liechtenstein is back on :dance:


How nice

arista
03-07-2020, 04:01 PM
The PM is Live
10 Downing St.
Briefing

also with Vallance and Whitty.

Now


On SkyNewsHD/BBCnewsHD /
Times Radio DAB/ LBC /Radio 5

The Slim Reaper
03-07-2020, 04:05 PM
1279080982885347329

arista
03-07-2020, 04:06 PM
137 Deaths


UK Covid-19 Death total today :44,141

joeysteele
03-07-2020, 04:34 PM
A mess again.

arista
03-07-2020, 04:40 PM
The Last 2 Questions
were not answered fully.

joeysteele
03-07-2020, 04:41 PM
The Last 2 Questions
were not answered fully.

They rarely are answered fully.

arista
03-07-2020, 04:58 PM
Yes Slim Shocker
London gone above Rate 1.

Still to get on TVnews

Cherie
03-07-2020, 05:42 PM
Yes Slim Shocker
London gone above Rate 1.

Still to get on TVnews

0.8 - 1.1

Nor surprising given all the raves, street parties :idc:

bots
03-07-2020, 05:50 PM
Yes Slim Shocker
London gone above Rate 1.

Still to get on TVnews

but the R rate means nothing with a low number of infected.

Liam-
03-07-2020, 06:01 PM
1278885372630622209

arista
03-07-2020, 06:19 PM
Northern Ireland Opened their Bars/Pubs
at mid day Today


On Ch4HDnews


English Pubs /Bars
can open at 6AM Saturday

arista
04-07-2020, 01:02 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/1520F/production/_113234568_the-guardian-4-july.jpg

arista
04-07-2020, 01:03 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/1791F/production/_113234569_daily-mail-4-july.jpg

arista
04-07-2020, 01:03 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/1D77/production/_113234570_the-times-4-july.jpg

arista
04-07-2020, 01:06 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/4487/production/_113234571_daily-mirror-4-july.jpg

arista
04-07-2020, 01:08 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/6B97/production/_113234572_daily-express-4-july.jpg

arista
04-07-2020, 01:09 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/12AFF/production/_113234567_daily-star-4-july.jpg

arista
04-07-2020, 01:10 AM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/92A7/production/_113234573_financial-times-4-july.jpg

arista
04-07-2020, 01:14 AM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/AhS3xOIEPUpvNeJoN1rlhw/https/media.fyre.co/qirY7FshQnWbw0D161dT_indy.JPG

arista
04-07-2020, 01:15 AM
https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/kAMutQpTAhqei4FIX0TjTQ/https/media.fyre.co/BgQXetqUQUWzDktFZDY9_the%20i.JPG

Ammi
04-07-2020, 05:12 AM
...I just saw MTVN going past to the pub, I bet the headlines didn’t catch that news...

MTVN
04-07-2020, 06:11 AM
Just about to tuck in

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bots
04-07-2020, 07:03 AM
Just about to tuck in

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enjoy!

arista
04-07-2020, 07:27 AM
"Just about to tuck in"

Fantastic.

Ammi
04-07-2020, 08:39 AM
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caprimint
04-07-2020, 08:41 AM
Just about to tuck in

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Omg did you actually go that early? :joker:

Cherie
04-07-2020, 08:42 AM
Just about to tuck in

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Matt single handedly boosting the economy

Nicky91
04-07-2020, 08:51 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-8484449/Scientists-discover-change-COVID-19-variant-lets-copy-efficiently.html

Scientists discover change to COVID-19 variant that lets it copy itself more efficiently - making it more infectious (but not more deadly)

Vanessa
04-07-2020, 09:26 AM
Just about to tuck in

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That looks delicious. Love English breakfast :love:

arista
04-07-2020, 02:17 PM
From LBC Live
A Mother Phones in
her daughter working in Weatherspoons
was shocked when a Drunk man
puts his arm around her and kissed her.


Thats not our Parmy, I hope

arista
04-07-2020, 02:47 PM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/07/02/20/30324008-8484449-image-a-15_1593719918420.jpg

arista
04-07-2020, 04:09 PM
Sadly Spain's Catalonia zone rural region
put's 200,000 into a lockdown

A area of Foreign workers some without proper homes.
A fruit growing zone.

Live Report : TRTworldHD

arista
04-07-2020, 04:49 PM
ITV1HDnews

Live in Spain
its near Barcelona
They are Showing Police Cars ensuring
no one enters the Lockdown Zone

arista
04-07-2020, 05:25 PM
Pathetic LibDem Ed Davey
says Police need to look at Farage
in a Pub today.

But Farage has been back from the USA for 2 weeks now
and has had a Covid-19 Test,
he does have it.


So Ed Davey MP wasting police time , again

bots
04-07-2020, 05:28 PM
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/83BC/production/_113242733_pa-48652619.jpg

The acting leader of the Liberal Democrats, Sir Ed Davey, has written to Kent Police asking them to investigate whether the Brexit Party leader Nigel Farage has broken quarantine rules.

Mr Farage tweeted a picture of himself at lunchtime on Saturday having a pint in a pub, as many businesses in England reopened.

Exactly a fortnight ago, Mr Farage tweeted from a trip to the United States - where he was a guest at a rally for President Trump.

People travelling to the UK from the US are required to quarantine for a period of 14 days from the moment they arrive.

"There are clearly serious questions to answer for Nigel Farage," Sir Ed said.

"It is clear from his social media posts that he was in America on 20 June, and he was pictured at a Trump rally that evening. Given the current requirements for visitors returning to the UK to isolate for 14 full days on their return, Nigel Farage appears to be in violation of the quarantine," he added.

"By choosing to go to the pub when it appears he should have been staying at home, Mr Farage is showing a flagrant disregard for the safety of people in his community."

In his letter to Kent's chief constable, Alan Pughsley - which has also been sent to Home Secretary Priti Patel - the former cabinet minister said:

"I write to ask you to immediately investigate this issue, establish the timeline of events for Mr Farage's return to the UK and establish whether Mr Farage was in breach of his quarantine. It is vital that lives are not put at risk by breaches of quarantine.

"I am copying this letter to the home secretary as I believe this case illustrates the difficulties that the police and Home Office will have in enforcing the quarantine rules as they are currently set out."

So how has Mr Farage managed to quarantine back in the UK for 14 days, if he was in the States two weeks ago?

He insists he has "been back from the USA for two weeks."

His spokesman told me he flew straight back to Britain on the same day - and claimed that a negative coronavirus test after he got back meant he could head back out and about again.

But the Department of Health has told me getting a test does not get you out of quarantining - self isolating at home - because a test could amount to a false negative; you could be harbouring the virus but not yet symptomatic.

Writing on Twitter, Alexandra Phillips, a former Brexit Party MEP who once worked as Nigel Farage's media adviser, said:

"Dear Ed Davey, The police have better things to do, you sad little man. Getting an officer to go to Nigel's house to tell him he shouldn't have gone to the pub is a total waste of resources and makes you look like a pathetic, attention-seeking twerp."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53294155

arista
04-07-2020, 05:39 PM
[Writing on Twitter, Alexandra Phillips, a former Brexit Party MEP who once worked as Nigel Farage's media adviser, said:

"Dear Ed Davey, The police have better things to do, you sad little man. Getting an officer to go to Nigel's house to tell him he shouldn't have gone to the pub is a total waste of resources and makes you look like a pathetic, attention-seeking twerp."]


Yes Bang On Right Alexandra

Cherie
04-07-2020, 09:58 PM
Authorities in Australia have put nine tower blocks in Melbourne under a “hard lockdown” following a spike in coronavirus cases.
The new restrictions mean that around 3,000 people living in the apartments will not be allowed to leave their homes for any reason for the next five days.
Victoria’s premier Daniel Andrews said the “hard lockdown” would mean “there will be no one allowed in … and no one allowed out”.
According to Reuters, police will be placed on each floor of the towers and law enforcement authorities will also control access points.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/australia-melbourne-tower-blocks-hard-lockdown_uk_5f00a285c5b6acab28513477

I cant even imagine the drama if something similar happened here

arista
04-07-2020, 10:03 PM
Today 67 Deaths

UK Covid-19 Total Deaths : 44,198

Smithy
04-07-2020, 10:09 PM
Welp

1279522924836409344

Zizu
04-07-2020, 10:18 PM
Authorities in Australia have put nine tower blocks in Melbourne under a “hard lockdown” following a spike in coronavirus cases.

The new restrictions mean that around 3,000 people living in the apartments will not be allowed to leave their homes for any reason for the next five days.

Victoria’s premier Daniel Andrews said the “hard lockdown” would mean “there will be no one allowed in … and no one allowed out”.

According to Reuters, police will be placed on each floor of the towers and law enforcement authorities will also control access points.



https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/australia-melbourne-tower-blocks-hard-lockdown_uk_5f00a285c5b6acab28513477



I cant even imagine the drama if something similar happened here



Yeah .. one harsh lockdown and ....

Riots and protests in every bladdy town in the country ..


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arista
05-07-2020, 02:56 AM
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arista
05-07-2020, 02:57 AM
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arista
05-07-2020, 02:58 AM
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arista
05-07-2020, 02:58 AM
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arista
05-07-2020, 02:59 AM
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arista
05-07-2020, 03:20 AM
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caprimint
05-07-2020, 05:17 AM
I don't get why people care so much about what Boris' dad does lmao

Kizzy
05-07-2020, 05:25 AM
Sadly Spain's Catalonia zone rural region
put's 200,000 into a lockdown

A area of Foreign workers some without proper homes.
A fruit growing zone.

Live Report : TRTworldHD
Don't we have charter planes full of workers coming over to work in our fruit growing zones without proper homes?...