Coronavirus Outbreak

[bots]

I might call 'em on my neighbours for old times sake :joker:

what it basically means is that 300 people ratted on their neighbours ... the true number of parties was probably 10000 :laugh:

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ei-34wWXgAAeBw4?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Zizu]

Now a U turn





Parliament has U-turned over the sale

of alcohol on its premises, deciding to follow

the 10pm curfew imposed on all pubs, bars and restaurants.





https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-parliament-u-turns-on-exempting-own-bars-from-10pm-curfew-12084299



Yeah I bet they were told ..
“Follow the 10pm guidelines guys ( wink wink) “


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[Zizu]

On the Radio

An Official Phoned someone who was meant to be a home with Covid-19
then said can open your Front Door.
And of course they were not a Home isolating.


They need to do more of these.



Haven’t they released figures showing they only 18% of people actually self isolated when instructed to ?
It was on TalkSport last night ..


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[arista]

1309785566418960384


No Washing Machines?

Use a Sink.

[reece(:]

How is this woman an MP? She’s utterly useless and constantly churns out rubbish.

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[Nicky91]

no audiences anymore at sports matches, one of our new stricter measures in netherlands what is being said already in media, pre-press conference

[arista]

Patients in hospital
1,727

4,044 New Cases of Covid-19

Today 13 Dead

Total Deaths 42,001


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bots]

the infection rate is on a downward trend, which is amazing

[arista]

the infection rate is on a downward trend, which is amazing


Not Really
it because yesterday was Sunday.

[Nicky91]

wish ours was on a downward trend, although hope new stricter measures are gonna help slow it down again


one of our singers Gordon has tested positive for corona, and let him be one who has daily contacts with 100 yr olds over here, he only has to wait 72 hours apparently if he has symptoms, if not then he can do again whatever he wants :skull:

[bots]

Not Really
it because yesterday was Sunday.

the number of infections grew over last weekend including monday, there is a downward trend now ... hope it continues

[arista]

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[user104658]

the number of infections grew over last weekend including monday, there is a downward trend now ... hope it continuesIF it does then it would suggest that household mixing indoors is key.

[MTVN]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/28/14/33720574-0-image-m-1_1601301440185.jpg

Certainly an unfortunate set of statistics for the anti-pub crowd

[arista]

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[Zizu]

IF it does then it would suggest that household mixing indoors is key.



Or that the hundreds / thousands of infected teenagers who’ve been spreading it unknowingly are now excluded from schools and are self isolating ??


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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Ammi]

...just as an interesting thing if anyone chooses...this is one little bit of research done on ‘which mask is good mask and which is bad mask’../...type thing...


https://www.boredpanda.com/coronavirus-mask-effective-science-experiment-duke-university/

[bots]

i get medical grade masks from a reputable source. I don't see the point in skimping on something like that

[user104658]

I have multi-layer cotton ones for "everyday use" but we also have packs of surgical masks in the car for emergencies.

[Ammi]

...I wonder with the ‘second wave’ if there will be enough medical masks for medical workers and some public , this time ...it’s interesting that ‘rate of infection’ is apparently at its highest yet ‘deaths recorded’ seem to remain at their lowest...does that start to suggest ‘immunities’ happening quite quickly...

[Ammi]

...I have several because I’m a bit OCD about washing after one wear with the reusable ones...

[user104658]

...I wonder with the ‘second wave’ if there will be enough medical masks for medical workers and some public , this time ...it’s interesting that ‘rate of infection’ is apparently at its highest yet ‘deaths recorded’ seem to remain at their lowest...does that start to suggest ‘immunities’ happening quite quickly...We're better at treating it is one reason but the other major one is that the huge spiking death rates of April it seems were mostly due to the virus being allowed to spread unchecked in elderly communities, which is really very sad. I'm pretty sure it's also why the UK's death rate seems so high compared to other European nations. There were some serious, serious blunders there.

[user104658]

...I have several because I’m a bit OCD about washing after one wear with the reusable ones...I have 4 or 5 and any I've used that day go in the wash in the evening... Though I have to admit if I'm going into a couple of different places in one day, I use the same mask :shrug:. That said one of those times is often the co-op after dropping at school and it's very rare that I encounter anyone at all, and I use self-checkout, so I'm nowhere near anyone to catch anything from/give anything to :joker:

[bots]

I think there are a lot of interlinking factors. Because the majority of people are social distancing, the people that do get infected are getting less of a dose of it and this gives their bodies time to recognise there is an invader and fight against it before it does so much damage. More young people are being infected at present, who have greater resilience to it and then we have better treatments for those that do get hospitalised. Less people are ending up on ventilators because of the better treatment methods, which means NHS staff are less weighed down with dedicated care which means their time is more efficiently used.

The month heading into November is going to be critical for everything. If we can keep a handle on it all, we should be able to get past Christmas without catastrophe

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/09/dutch-bring-in-new-rules-forecast-5000-coronavirus-cases-a-day-by-next-week/

and additionally mayors have called for advice to wear face masks in every indoor public space, and shop owners can refuse people from entering who do not wear a mask

this goes for Amsterdam, Rotterdam, The Hague, Brabant-Zuidoost (Eindhoven, Helmond)

and some of our reporters had a interview with Dr Fauci what he thinks about our developments (he says we are going in the wrong direction and that we need to act fast with the right measures), him and our Jaap van Dissel know each other and he was surprised that Jaap isn't thinking same as him regarding this pandemic


no more audiences at sports matches for (at least) 3 weeks, can be extended for a longer period of time in case necessary

all of these measures will go in as of 18:00 CET today, pubs/bars will have to close 22:00 CET
maximum of 3 people at your home

[Ammi]

I have 4 or 5 and any I've used that day go in the wash in the evening... Though I have to admit if I'm going into a couple of different places in one day, I use the same mask :shrug:. That said one of those times is often the co-op after dropping at school and it's very rare that I encounter anyone at all, and I use self-checkout, so I'm nowhere near anyone to catch anything from/give anything to :joker:

..yeah it is difficult to alway wash in that I always keep one in the car as well...I haven’t actually had a reason to use it yet because I always have one around my wrist as well..(...I spent a few weeks as a Girl Scout so be prepared etc...)...but if I did use it, would I remember to wash it and if I did remember, would I remember to put it back in the car straight away.../...overthinking...

[Beso]

I always keep my mask round my wrist, but I wasnt a girl guide.

[joeysteele]

I've worn them since start of March.
So now it's just automatic.
I rarely go out anywhere at present as I can do advice work from home.

So it's only for a walk or if necessary to a store or shop.
I always have a facecovering on even outside as well as inside a building.

It's reached the point where I even forget to take it off once back in the house.

My garden is away from all paths and roads so out in the garden is the only place I don't wear them now.

Which if it's a facecovering, I wash after every use.
I have disposable ones too which I carry around with me too.

I will take no chances of risk.
Choosing the times too, to head to a store, I've found rarely more than a few numbers in when I have.
Using a facecovering or mask has just become routine to me now.
It was a bit irritating at first but now just a natural thing to do for me.

[Nicky91]

as if people in my country will listen to this ''advice'' lol lol lol

i expect we going in second lockdown in 2 months time

[Nicky91]

https://www.thelocal.de/20200928/900-people-in-quarantine-following-family-celebration-in-bielefeld

900 people in quarantine (not all have the virus but you can never be careful enough whom they all had been in contact with) in Bielefeld following family celebration

calls for tougher rules


https://www.thelocal.de/20200928/coronavirus-cases-could-leap-up-to-19200-daily-by-christmas-warns-merkel

Merkel warns coronavirus cases in germany could leap up to 19,200 by christmas

its good to be realistic i guess numbers wise, so you know you gotta stay focused and keep measures very strict

something what they do really well compared to other countries

everywhere above 50 cases goes into quarantine

[Ammi]

Singing and Dancing now illegal in pubs.../..when Footloose became a reality.../...could we have ever imagined such a world...


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/singing-dancing-now-illegal-pubs-145229115.html

[bots]

im not an anti masker or anything, but i think we have gone over the edge in terms of authoritarianism. All this fines nonsense is becoming ridiculous

[arista]

Johnson PM is Live later this afternoon.
A New Speech

[joeysteele]

Johnson PM is Live later this afternoon.
A New Speech

Just leaves me cold.
Will he say actually anything relevant this time or go off in fairyland to try to promise more moonshots or other tripe.

[user104658]

Singing and Dancing now illegal in pubs..

Dancing should ALWAYS have been illegal in pubs. As we all know I'm not a pub-goer any more, but I was when I was younger and really there was nothing worse than shrivelled old pub-goblins doing a creaky shuffle around the karaoke dancefloor.

[Cherie]

what new hell is he going to bring forth

[user104658]

what new hell is he going to bring forth

Bingo banned 'til 2023 :worry:

[bots]

A UK government minister has been unable to clarify parts of the new coronavirus restrictions coming into effect in north-east England.

People who break a new law against mixing socially in seven parts of the North East face a maximum £6,400 fine.

The tougher measures - which are coming into force on Wednesday amid a spike in Covid-19 cases - will affect about two million people.

Skills Minister Gillian Keegan was asked on BBC Radio 4's Today programme whether the new restrictions apply to outside areas, such as pub and restaurant gardens.

"I'm sorry I can't clarify that. I don't know the answer to that question but I'm sure they can find out," she said.

Pressed on how people can be expected to keep up to date with the latest restrictions if a minister cannot, she said: "I'm sorry I can't answer that question. I'm sure there are many people who could. I don't represent the North East."

Labour's shadow health minister Alex Norris said Keegan's admission "will do little to inspire public confidence", adding government "incompetence" was hampering the UK's coronavirus response.

[arista]

Just leaves me cold.
Will he say actually anything relevant this time or go off in fairyland to try to promise more moonshots or other tripe.



PM is doing a Skills help speech,

[arista]

["I'm sorry I can't clarify that."]

On radio 4


Yes Gillian MP needs notes with her

[arista]

Johnson Is Live NOW


In Exeter


Near Shaun.

[arista]

He is saying not enough Skilled workers

For example ,you can do Electrical Engineering Courses.

4 year student loans

[Nicky91]

another nonsense speech then by Boris

[arista]

another nonsense speech then by Boris


No he wants more Plumbers
and Electricians trained

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/09/face-masks-recommended-in-big-cities-but-critics-say-move-is-confusing/


supermarkets have said they refuse to ban customers without masks, also their cashiers don't need to wear masks because they are behind a plastic screen

[Nicky91]

https://www.thelocal.de/20200929/what-are-germanys-proposed-new-rules-for-events-and-restaurants

germany's new rules for events and restaurants

[arista]

Johnson at last

Taking Questions from the Media


He said next Andy Bell from SkyNews

Andy shouted back its Ch5 News.

He enjoyed the Exeter College
Wood work he did today.

[Ammi]

Dancing should ALWAYS have been illegal in pubs. As we all know I'm not a pub-goer any more, but I was when I was younger and really there was nothing worse than shrivelled old pub-goblins doing a creaky shuffle around the karaoke dancefloor.

...I was never a huge pub-goer even back in the day...but I have to say when I did go to pubs in the centre of Newcastle back in the day...they were a bit of a crossover or very similar to clubs ../...very little difference so not as you’ve described, dance was a big part of them...not so much singing though...

[joeysteele]

Johnson at last

Taking Questions from the Media


He said next Andy Bell from SkyNews

Andy shouted back its Ch5 News.


He enjoyed the Exeter College
Wood work he did today.

He doesn't seem too clued up on anything as usual almost.

His waffle on the new rules, in fact laws, in the North East was unbelievable.
For goodness sake.

[Lewismacfarlane]

My family are going to Blackpool next weekend

[Zizu]

My family are going to Blackpool next weekend



One of the presenters on TalkSport was telling everyone this morning how gutted he was at missing a big night out with all his mates over the weekend ..

I don’t get what’s happening tbh


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[arista]

Greggs will ask Staff to work less hours
they are talking with the Unions
Due to less sales.

That will teach them to stop taking CASH

[arista]

He doesn't seem too clued up on anything as usual almost.

His waffle on the new rules, in fact laws, in the North East was unbelievable.
For goodness sake.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/29/11/33759328-8784629-image-a-3_1601375694728.jpg

[arista]

The Education Secretary
confirmed Students who have done
there Covid time
can go home for Xmas.

[Zizu]

Too soon for the official daily stats ??


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[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/28/22/33735968-8782437-image-m-34_1601327478719.jpg

[arista]

Too soon for the official daily stats ??


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Yesterday the Gov site was updated
at 3PM
I just checked its still on Monday

[arista]

Patients in hospital
2,049

7,143 New Covid-19 Cases

71 Dead

Total Covid-19 Deaths in the UK: 42,072


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/





[Sky Has the numbers
There have been another 7,143 cases of coronavirus reported in the UK
in the last 24 hours - a big rise on yesterday's total of 4,044.]

[arista]

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[Dogeatdog]

Singing and Dancing now illegal in pubs.../..when Footloose became a reality.../...could we have ever imagined such a world...


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/singing-dancing-now-illegal-pubs-145229115.html

This is getting kinda beyond a joke now imo. We won’t be allowed to breathe next.

[arista]

The PM sent a Tweet
as when asked by the Ch5 reporter
today Live in Exeter
he made an Error about 6 outside in the North Lockdown.

In Johnson's tweet
He Said Sorry.

[arista]

On Ch5HDnews
they showed a Great Report
Portsmouth University
has a Team of Nurses who are Testing
every student.

[bots]

bang goes my optimism yesterday of the rate decreasing

[Scarlett.]

bang goes my optimism yesterday of the rate decreasing

Looks like the lower Sunday/Monday rates are still a thing :/

[Nicky91]

Looks like the lower Sunday/Monday rates are still a thing :/

yup

and then some of that not mentioned added to tuesdays numbers

[arista]

bang goes my optimism yesterday of the rate decreasing


Yes 71 Dead sadly


Patients in hospital
2,049

7,143 New Covid-19 Cases

[LaLaLand]

Here in Wrexham is going into localised lockdown From Thursday 6pm as well as Flintshire, Denbighshire and Conwy - just announced minutes ago.

So basically the whole of South Wales and like 60% of North Wales will be in lockdown.

[arista]

Confirmed after PMQ's tomorrow
The Prime mister Johnson with his 2 Medical helpers
is Live in Downing St.

[arista]

Here in Wrexham is going into localised lockdown From Thursday 6pm as well as Flintshire, Denbighshire and Conwy - just announced minutes ago.

So basically the whole of South Wales and like 60% of North Wales will be in lockdown.



Yes Wales is Trying harder
than England is.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Confirmed after PMQ's tomorrow
The Prime mister Johnson with his 2 Medical helpers
is Live in Downing St.

i doubt many will watch

[arista]

i doubt many will watch


I think alot will

[LaLaLand]

People are not happy about this local lockdown here from Thursday night.

Basically we can do anything within our county (pub, shop, eat out, haircuts, beauty treatments, tattoos, gym) EXCEPT see family/friends at home.

Schools/colleges/unis are staying open AND grandparents/elderly guardians can still have kids in their care after school...

But social visits are forbidden?

Ridiculous.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

Good on GMBHD itv
began with Covid-19

And up North a pub asked for 11PM closing.

bbc1 AM and SkyNewsHD began with USA.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/30/01/33790692-0-image-m-25_1601426956596.jpg

[arista]

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[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/30/00/33787436-8787551-image-m-24_1601422789266.jpg
Scientific advisors Sir Chris Whitty (left) and Sir Patrick Vallance (right)
will be with the Johnson Prime Minister
10 Downing St. Speech

This afternoon
but PMQ's first Mid Day

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/09/soldier-of-orange-stranded-again-almost-half-of-cast-have-coronavirus/

half of our Soldier of Orange musical cast have coronavirus, as a result all performances have been postponed until October 4th

''The show, about the exploits of Dutch resistance fighter Erik Hazelhoff Roelfzema during World War II, had restarted at the beginning of the month after a six-month hiatus but with an audience of around 300 instead of the usual number of 1,100.

Producer Fred Boot said at the time that it would be impossible in the long run to keep the show going with a reduced audience. ‘We are losing many thousands of euros with every performance,’ he told the AD.''

[Zizu]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/30/01/33790692-0-image-m-25_1601426956596.jpg



Good job that photo was landscape setting


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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjI9PKGXcAEyP53?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjKGXQgXcAAnPK9?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/30/00/33787436-8787551-image-m-24_1601422789266.jpg
Scientific advisors Sir Chris Whitty (left) and Sir Patrick Vallance (right)
will be with the Johnson Prime Minister
10 Downing St. Speech

This afternoon
but PMQ's first Mid Day



Its 5PM this evening
on SkyNewsHD and BBC1HD

[Cherie]

Its 5PM this evening
on SkyNewsHD and BBC1HD

Is this a recent photo, they don’t appear to be 2m apart

[Zizu]

Daily figures ??

Up , down , plateauing ?


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[arista]

Is this a recent photo, they don’t appear to be 2m apart


No Old Photo.

[arista]

Daily figures ??

Up , down , plateauing ?


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Patients in hospital
2,252

7,108 new cases today.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

According to the PM its 71 Deaths again today

42,143 Total UK Deaths

[arista]

PM is live in 12 mins

[arista]

PM is Live Now

[Zizu]

Patients in hospital
2,252

7,108 new cases today.


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

According to the PM its 71 Deaths again today



Thank you !!


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[Cherie]

Don’t throw in the sponge

[Zizu]

Over a 30% increase in hospitalised Covid cases in just TWO days !!

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[bots]

Don’t throw in the sponge
my area is doing well :smug:

[arista]

Recorded Questions from the Public first


Then all the TV news reporters and press

[Zizu]

Breaking News
Live Downing Street

The latest trend seems to be that the elderly are now catching the virus and they’re the ones needing hospital treatment and very sadly requiring intensive care treatment .. oh and deaths ..

Wow , who saw this coming ??


Just about every averagely intelligent person !!!!!!




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[arista]

Zizu :
"Over a 30% increase in hospitalised Covid cases in just TWO days !!"


Yes well the Covid Spreading College in Coventry
does not help.
https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=370433

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: national face mask advice (our government has been in a very long debate this whole day so far)

[bots]

i think they will be introducing tougher restrictions in the north, it's spreading out of control there even after weeks of tougher restrictions

[arista]

41 mins he did
Updating everyone

General Increase
By younger folks
but effect older folks, as well.

[arista]

Netherlands: national face mask advice (our government has been in a very long debate this whole day so far)


Yes near enough every nation
say Masks can help.

[arista]

i think they will be introducing tougher restrictions in the north, it's spreading out of control there even after weeks of tougher restrictions


Yes we need a Daily update again.

Doubling every 12 days (Ed Conway, SkyNewsHD)

[Zizu]

i think they will be introducing tougher restrictions in the north, it's spreading out of control there even after weeks of tougher restrictions



We are right in the thick of it .. 5th highest rate in the uk .. hardly any younger folk wear masks .. not even in many stores or shops . The staff simply say it’s up to the police to enforce the rule ..


It’s a good job these youngsters don’t have parents or grandparents or older relatives ...

Oh wait ...


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[arista]

Huff. Post
Say that was the 100th Press meeting from the PM.

[arista]

If anyone wants to watch it
Todays 45 mins PM and his 2 Advisers
2 Public
then Press and TV news

https://twitter.com/i/events/1311263802923479041

[arista]

1311348777354174465

46 seconds
Mirror Lady reporter
Getting a Reply from Vallance

[user104658]

i think they will be introducing tougher restrictions in the north, it's spreading out of control there even after weeks of tougher restrictionsStarting to look more and more like either the restrictions were never the magic bullet they were assumed to be in May/June, or people just aren't listening. Tougher restrictions probably won't halt it tbh. If it's the former they're useless, if it's the latter making them tougher won't mean anything to those who don't follow the ones that already exist.

[bots]

Starting to look more and more like either the restrictions were never the magic bullet they were assumed to be in May/June, or people just aren't listening. Tougher restrictions probably won't halt it tbh. If it's the former they're useless, if it's the latter making them tougher won't mean anything to those who don't follow the ones that already exist.

the press conference today seemed very much like a warning ... the same way they warned people in march. I am certain there is a shelf life on heavy restrictions, and the north is basically ignoring the limits on social interacting in homes

[Ammi]

Eight patients die following Covid-19 outbreak at hospital...



Eight people have died at a hospital in South Wales after 82 cases of coronavirus were identified there.

Temporary restrictions to services have now been put in place at Royal Glamorgan Hospital in Llantrisant, including suspending planned surgery, with the exception of a small number of urgent cancer cases.

On Wednesday, the restrictions were brought in by Cwm Taf University Health Board at 2pm in an effort to help manage the outbreak, which has been linked to transmission within the hospital site.

Six patients are currently in intensive care at the hospital, which is in Rhondda Cynon Taf – one of the areas of Wales subjected to local lockdown restrictions.

On Wednesday, Welsh education minister Kirsty Williams said the Welsh Government was working with the health board and Public Health Wales to address the “issues” which have given rise to the outbreak.

She told the Welsh Government Covid-19 press briefing: “We understand that this is a serious situation and how upsetting it is for all those involved.

“We are working with the local health authority’s senior management team and Public Health Wales to understand and, crucially, address the issues that have arisen at the Royal Glamorgan Hospital to bring that outbreak under control and learn the lessons of that so they can be applied in other healthcare settings.”

She added: “The situation is a worrying one, and all steps are being taken to protect existing patients, staff, and to ensure that those residents that were due to leave the hospital are directed to appropriate care in other hospitals in the near vicinity.”

The rise in cases at the hospital come one week after the health board said 34 cases of Covid-19 had been recorded across two of its wards, linked mainly to transmission within the site.

In a statement on Wednesday, the health board said that despite teams working to manage the outbreak, “additional cases linked to transmission within the hospital” had been confirmed in recent days.

Paul Mears, chief executive of the health board, said: “We recognise the concern that these temporary changes will cause and would like to assure our patients and communities that managing this outbreak is our key priority.

“Our teams continue to work to take all necessary measures to achieve this and we have taken a range of swift and decisive actions to try to manage this outbreak, which include immediate closure of affected wards, risk assessments of affected and at-risk wards, reviews of infection prevention and control measures and their implementation, increased testing of healthcare staff and testing of all hospital admissions.

“These decisions have not been taken lightly, and we understand that they will impact our patients, their families, our staff and partner organisations.

“However, the safety of our patients and staff is of the utmost importance and we believe this is the right course of action, based on the professional advice given to us.”

Adult patients requiring an emergency admission following assessment will either be taken to the Princess of Wales Hospital in Bridgend, the Prince Charles Hospital in Merthyr Tydfil, or the University Hospital of Wales in Cardiff.

The emergency department at Royal Glamorgan Hospital will remain open for walk-in patients and those who can be treated within the department.

Welsh Ambulance Service patients, excluding children, will be diverted to the other hospitals.

The self-contained paediatric wards at the hospital will remain open, while the Tirion birthing centre is due to reopen on October 5.

A health board spokesman said it is working closely with Public Health Wales to increase the capacity and speed of testing and results for both patients and staff.

“These changes will be reviewed on a daily basis and decisions to restart emergency admissions at Royal Glamorgan Hospital will be made in conjunction with Public Health Wales,” he said.

Andrew RT Davies, shadow health minister for the Welsh Conservatives, called on the Welsh Government to explore using field hospitals and other health facilities to alleviate pressure on the Royal Glamorgan.

He added: “This is very concerning, particularly as many of the additional cases are linked to transmission within the hospital, and so questions over processes and protocols must be asked.”

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[arista]

Nations above 10,000 Covid-19 Deaths


206,436 USA deaths
142,921 Brazil deaths
97,497 India deaths
77,163 Mexico deaths
42,162 United Kingdom deaths
35,894 Italy deaths
32,396 Peru deaths
31,971 France deaths
31,791 Spain deaths
26,169 Iran deaths
25,828 Colombia deaths
20,630 Russia deaths
16,667 South Africa deaths
16,519 Argentina deaths
12,741 Chile deaths
11,355 Ecuador deaths
10,740 Indonesia deaths
10,001 Belgium deaths



Pro Data :
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[Zizu]

Eight patients die following Covid-19 outbreak at hospital...







Eight people have died at a hospital in South Wales after 82 cases of coronavirus were identified there.



Temporary restrictions to services have now been put in place at Royal Glamorgan Hospital in Llantrisant, including suspending planned surgery, with the exception of a small number of urgent cancer cases.



On Wednesday, the restrictions were brought in by Cwm Taf University Health Board at 2pm in an effort to help manage the outbreak, which has been linked to transmission within the hospital site.



Six patients are currently in intensive care at the hospital, which is in Rhondda Cynon Taf – one of the areas of Wales subjected to local lockdown restrictions.



On Wednesday, Welsh education minister Kirsty Williams said the Welsh Government was working with the health board and Public Health Wales to address the “issues” which have given rise to the outbreak.



She told the Welsh Government Covid-19 press briefing: “We understand that this is a serious situation and how upsetting it is for all those involved.



“We are working with the local health authority’s senior management team and Public Health Wales to understand and, crucially, address the issues that have arisen at the Royal Glamorgan Hospital to bring that outbreak under control and learn the lessons of that so they can be applied in other healthcare settings.”



She added: “The situation is a worrying one, and all steps are being taken to protect existing patients, staff, and to ensure that those residents that were due to leave the hospital are directed to appropriate care in other hospitals in the near vicinity.”



The rise in cases at the hospital come one week after the health board said 34 cases of Covid-19 had been recorded across two of its wards, linked mainly to transmission within the site.



In a statement on Wednesday, the health board said that despite teams working to manage the outbreak, “additional cases linked to transmission within the hospital” had been confirmed in recent days.



Paul Mears, chief executive of the health board, said: “We recognise the concern that these temporary changes will cause and would like to assure our patients and communities that managing this outbreak is our key priority.



“Our teams continue to work to take all necessary measures to achieve this and we have taken a range of swift and decisive actions to try to manage this outbreak, which include immediate closure of affected wards, risk assessments of affected and at-risk wards, reviews of infection prevention and control measures and their implementation, increased testing of healthcare staff and testing of all hospital admissions.



“These decisions have not been taken lightly, and we understand that they will impact our patients, their families, our staff and partner organisations.



“However, the safety of our patients and staff is of the utmost importance and we believe this is the right course of action, based on the professional advice given to us.”



Adult patients requiring an emergency admission following assessment will either be taken to the Princess of Wales Hospital in Bridgend, the Prince Charles Hospital in Merthyr Tydfil, or the University Hospital of Wales in Cardiff.



The emergency department at Royal Glamorgan Hospital will remain open for walk-in patients and those who can be treated within the department.



Welsh Ambulance Service patients, excluding children, will be diverted to the other hospitals.



The self-contained paediatric wards at the hospital will remain open, while the Tirion birthing centre is due to reopen on October 5.



A health board spokesman said it is working closely with Public Health Wales to increase the capacity and speed of testing and results for both patients and staff.



“These changes will be reviewed on a daily basis and decisions to restart emergency admissions at Royal Glamorgan Hospital will be made in conjunction with Public Health Wales,” he said.



Andrew RT Davies, shadow health minister for the Welsh Conservatives, called on the Welsh Government to explore using field hospitals and other health facilities to alleviate pressure on the Royal Glamorgan.



He added: “This is very concerning, particularly as many of the additional cases are linked to transmission within the hospital, and so questions over processes and protocols must be asked.”



8 people die of Covid in the same hospital on the same day .. yet still millions believe that this is all made up and they just put Covid on the death certificate ..


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[Zizu]

Nations above 10,000 Covid-19 Deaths


206,436 USA deaths
142,921 Brazil deaths
97,497 India deaths
77,163 Mexico deaths
42,162 United Kingdom deaths
35,894 Italy deaths
32,396 Peru deaths
31,971 France deaths
31,791 Spain deaths
26,169 Iran deaths
25,828 Colombia deaths
20,630 Russia deaths
16,667 South Africa deaths
16,519 Argentina deaths
12,741 Chile deaths
11,355 Ecuador deaths
10,740 Indonesia deaths
10,001 Belgium deaths



Pro Data :
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html



All the ones above us have massively higher populations than us which suggests that we’ve been hit harder than any other country in the WORLD !?!

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[arista]

Nations /Islands with No deaths



0 Bhutan deaths
0 Cambodia deaths
0 Dominica deaths
0 Eritrea deaths
0 Grenada deaths
0 Holy See deaths
0 Laos deaths
0 Mongolia deaths
0 Saint Kitts and Nevis deaths
0 Saint Lucia deaths
0 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines deaths
0 Seychelles deaths
0 Timor-Leste deaths





https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[joeysteele]

Well the press conference today was more a waste of time.
Little new was learned.

The only message I got from it was what I already had pretty much worked out as it wasn't hard to.
When the 2 bookends stated.
Things were going in the wrong direction.

[Beso]

8 people die of Covid in the same hospital on the same day .. yet still millions believe that this is all made up and they just put Covid on the death certificate ..


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There has been cases of that though.

[Jessica.]

Very sad to see that the UK still hasn't pulled itself out of the mess of so many cases and deaths.

[Zizu]

There has been cases of that though.



Not a million worldwide though


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[joeysteele]

All the ones above us have massively higher populations than us which suggests that we’ve been hit harder than any other country in the WORLD !?!

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Correct.

In relation to deaths to population.
We are likely the worst in the World, even on the reduced number of deaths figures the government brought into being recently.

[user104658]

All the ones above us have massively higher populations than us which suggests that we’ve been hit harder than any other country in the WORLD !?!

Correct.

In relation to deaths to population.
We are likely the worst in the World, even on the reduced number of deaths figures the government brought into being recently.

Based on the numbers given on this thread, UK and US rates are pretty much identical at 63 deaths per 100k population. Italy is almost identical at 62/100k and Spain is slightly higher at 68/100k.

Sooo we're not even the "worst" hit in Europe, however we are one of a cluster of countries with very similar numbers that have been worse hit than others.

[joeysteele]

Based on the numbers given on this thread, UK and US rates are pretty much identical at 63 deaths per 100k population. Italy is almost identical at 62/100k and Spain is slightly higher at 68/100k.

Sooo we're not even the "worst" hit in Europe, however we are one of a cluster of countries with very similar numbers that have been worse hit than others.


Agreed.

However, I am suspicious of our total figure anyway.
Since the amending of its construction.

Which is why I qualified with ' likely' not certainly.

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[arista]

[The Spanish government has ordered a
lockdown in the capital Madrid and surrounding
areas badly affected by coronavirus after a rise in cases.
Under the new restrictions, residents will
not be allowed to leave the area unless they
have to make an essential journey.
However, Madrid's regional government
says the lockdown is not legally valid.
Greater Madrid accounts for more than a third
of the 133,604 cases diagnosed in Spain
over the past two weeks.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-54364015

[arista]

[Coronavirus: MPs promised vote on new rules 'wherever possible']

These MP's wanting to Debate a Measure are fools
they would slow it down
Costing lives.

[Hancock MP warned that some urgent regulations could not be held up.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54361294

[bots]

They could be transparent about it and say these are the measures we will implement if such and such happens, allowing plenty of debate though. It's to easy to say we may not have the time to discuss it

[Ammi]

...Christmas Pudding being stock piled..?...on average and generalising, obviously...how many Christmas Puddings would a family eat...?...

[MTVN]

The growth in cases of coronavirus may be slowing down, the largest study of the infection in England suggests.

A team at Imperial College London analysed samples from 84,000 people chosen at random from across the country.

They said the R number, the virus's reproduction number, appears to have fallen since measures including the "rule of six" were introduced.

However, they warn cases are high, with one in every 200 people infected.

The React study is highly influential, both due to its size and because it gives an up-to-date picture of how the virus is spreading. The last samples used in the analysis were collected as recently as Saturday.

It was the previous React report that found infections were doubling every seven to eight days in late August and early September.

This, in turn, led to warnings that there could be 50,000 cases a day by mid-October if that pattern continued.

Then the research group estimated the R number - the number of people each infected person is passing the virus onto, on average - was 1.7.

The latest analysis, of swab samples collected between 19 and 26 September, suggests the R number has fallen to around 1.1 - although the precise figure is uncertain.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54366478

[bots]

it would be great if the measures are having an effect, but the rate needs to be below 1 across the country before we can consider things under control.

We only had to listen to the 2 men yesterday to understand the seriousness of the current situation

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/09/dutch-urgently-advised-to-wear-face-masks-in-shops-cafes-and-public-buildings/

Dutch urgently advised to wear face masks in shops, cafes and public buildings

[Zizu]

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.... yet he’s such a wise and caring guy .. we were told endlessly..


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[Nicky91]

CBS had said there might've been 10,000 covid-19 deaths in Netherlands in first wave

[bots]

it will be interesting how the infection rate moves over the next week or 2. My own feeling looking at the towns that are under tougher restrictions is that we are pissing against the wind and are following the completely wrong strategy

[Nicky91]

it will be interesting how the infection rate moves over the next week or 2. My own feeling looking at the towns that are under tougher restrictions is that we are pissing against the wind and are following the completely wrong strategy

you'll notice effects of these measures probably only after 3 weeks from now

[bots]

you'll notice effects of these measures probably only after 3 weeks from now

the evidence from the towns that are already in stricter lockdown and have been for many weeks is that the measures are not helping at all

[Nicky91]

my mom just back from grocery shopping, she was specifically paying attention how many had face masks, more like 50% of customers, and it was very crowded

some even complaining about headaches and being unable to breathe properly through masks :rolleyes:


so the urgent advice to wear masks isn't really being followed by everyone which is why i say they should make it a requirement or otherwise a fine

[arista]

.... yet he’s such a wise and caring guy .. we were told endlessly..


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Yes 9 at his table.
He has said sorry.

A Labour MP/Doctor claims he has been fined.

[joeysteele]

A message mostly for arista.

I ONLY see the front pages of the papers from you on here.
I do find them interesting.

However, please could you consider sending them to this government's Ministers too as well as here please.
If I hear another government Minister when asked about things that have been splashed over front pages of publications and on TV, say I haven't heard that or seen that.
I may just throw something at the TV.

As for the Corbyn issue.
I think a fine is in order, it was in an indoor setting too, however if it's his first bad judgement on distancing a warning is more in order, as Jeremy Hunt indicated.

However how many times has Stanley Johnson flouted the guidelines now.
Plus has he even ever had a warning.

Again however, I find this trial by press of naming and shaming unnerving.
I wonder how many journalists clamouring around places will be observing the social distancing rules.
Of course who'd be photographing them?
Inside or outside.

Anyway arista, if you could think of enlightening this government's Ministers as to what's on the front pages at least too, it may actually help them in interviews.

George Eustace on Kay Burley.
Hadn't seen or heard the predictions 4 million could end up unemployed.
How long has that been mentioned over the recent weeks.
Then he stated, he'd seen a projection of possibly 2 million.
When asked where he'd seen that by her, he said he couldn't recall.

I cannot believe how badly Ministers are prepared for interviews now.
Plus it seems, the answer to any awkward question is fast becoming, they haven't heard that,or seen it so cannot comment.

For goodness sake, they think the public are idiots and treat us as such too.

[user104658]

...Christmas Pudding being stock piled..?...on average and generalising, obviously...how many Christmas Puddings would a family eat...?...

A few bites of one before everyone remembers that it's horrible? :laugh:

[arista]

"I cannot believe how badly Ministers are prepared for interviews now."


Yes early morning ones
are the trouble.

[bots]

we will only start to get an indication of what unemployment is likely to rise to now that furlough has ended. How can ministers possibly know the financial status of all employers in the country .... crazy to even think it's possible.

As to what the current restrictions are in a given locality ... again, how are ministers supposed to know that ... there is plenty to criticise without being completely stupid it about it

[Nicky91]

Belgium has eased down some of its measures

belgian people with covid symptoms only have to go one week into quarantine instead of normal 2 weeks

people are no longer required to wear mask outdoors, but they are still required to wear a mask indoors, and also 1.5 metre distance society remains the same too

belgian also ease down on ''bubble of 5'' so again more than 5 people allowed to visit your home

[arista]

Belgium has eased down some of its measures

belgian people with covid symptoms only have to go one week into quarantine instead of normal 2 weeks

people are no longer required to wear mask outdoors, but they are still required to wear a mask indoors, and also 1.5 metre distance society remains the same too

belgian also ease down on ''bubble of 5'' so again more than 5 people allowed to visit your home


Yes they are now my list of above 10,000 Deaths

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

https://www.thelocal.de/20201001/germany-declares-belgium-most-of-france-and-parts-of-uk-coronavirus-risk-zones

Germany has declared Belgium, Most of France, Parts of UK coronavirus risk zones

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/30/20/33827508-8791265-image-a-13_1601494269447.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/30/20/33827500-8791265-image-a-18_1601494294490.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/30/20/33827498-8791265-image-m-22_1601494368328.jpg


[Amazon vows to remove ‘hugely distasteful’
coronavirus-themed Halloween masks
from sale – as UK police chiefs warn trick-and-treating
and bonfire night will both need to be Cancelled]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8791265/Hugely-distasteful-coronavirus-Halloween-masks-China-sale-Amazon.html

[arista]

Coronavirus: Restrictions announced for Liverpool,
Warrington, Hartlepool and Middlesbrough

[Fresh coronavirus restrictions are being imposed
on the Liverpool City Region, Warrington, Hartlepool
and Middlesbrough.
Health Secretary Matt Hancock
said residents in the regions will be urged
not to socially mix with people from different
households - except in outdoor spaces like parks and outdoor hospitality settings.

And he warned against "all but essential travel" - meaning people
can still go to work and school.]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-restrictions-announced-for-liverpool-warrington-hartlepool-and-middlesbrough-12086656

[bots]

i think those masks are great :laugh:

[arista]

i think those masks are great :laugh:

You would need to buy one quick
before its removed

[Cherie]

i think those masks are great :laugh:

so do I :joker:

[joeysteele]

we will only start to get an indication of what unemployment is likely to rise to now that furlough has ended. How can ministers possibly know the financial status of all employers in the country .... crazy to even think it's possible.

As to what the current restrictions are in a given locality ... again, how are ministers supposed to know that ... there is plenty to criticise without being completely stupid it about it

No one is or was saying Ministers should know what the unemployment figures could be.
Although companies are indicating their likely cuts to or losses of jobs.

The point I was making is, when asked about projections reported in the media.
Minister's trying to say they haven't heard of them and never seen them.

As if they never watch TV, read papers or listen to radio.
They of course must have.

[user104658]

I think, sadly, trick-or-treating being cancelled is a no-brainer. We're planning at-home trick or treat... we're going to get in a load of sweets, kids are getting dressed up in costume and then eldest will take youngest "door to door" in the house knocking, with me and my wife alternating from room to room to "answer" and give out the sweets :joker:.

Add some spooky lights and noises over bluetooth speakers and voila! Halloween @ home.

[arista]

I think, sadly, trick-or-treating being cancelled is a no-brainer. We're planning at-home trick or treat... we're going to get in a load of sweets, kids are getting dressed up in costume and then eldest will take youngest "door to door" in the house knocking, with me and my wife alternating from room to room to "answer" and give out the sweets :joker:.

Add some spooky lights and noises over bluetooth speakers and voila! Halloween @ home.


https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/30/20/33827500-8791265-image-a-18_1601494294490.jpg

[bots]

I think, sadly, trick-or-treating being cancelled is a no-brainer. We're planning at-home trick or treat... we're going to get in a load of sweets, kids are getting dressed up in costume and then eldest will take youngest "door to door" in the house knocking, with me and my wife alternating from room to room to "answer" and give out the sweets :joker:.

Add some spooky lights and noises over bluetooth speakers and voila! Halloween @ home.

sounds pretty much like I'm a celeb get me out of here will be this year :laugh:

[bots]

Restrictions for England to be standardised into three tiers

The government is to push ahead with a new "three-tier" approach to coronavirus restrictions in local areas of England, the BBC understands.

The Department of Health confirmed last month the system was being considered - but it has now been signed off by government officials and politicians.

According to a memo seen by the BBC, public health officials will receive precise proposals later on Thursday.

The Department of Health said there were "no imminent changes" expected.

A spokesman for No 10 added: "We keep all of the measures which we put in place under review - if there is anything further to set out then we will do so to the House".

The government's aim is to replace the patchwork of existing Covid-19 restrictions across the country.

Areas that fall into tier one will have fewer than 100 cases per 100,000 of population and will need to adhere to national restrictions - such as the "rule of six" and social distancing.

Tier two would kick in where cases are above 100 per 100,000. Restrictions for these areas would be similar to those currently in place in large parts of northern England, such as bans on household meetings.

And tier three areas would have significantly higher rates and would face full lockdowns - excluding schools and essential businesses, like supermarkets.

The memo seen by the BBC shows plans for additional money for local authorities placed into tiers two or three.

Local authorities would get £1 per head of population if placed into tier two and £2 per head for tier three.

When all areas are "mapped" onto the new system, it is not believed any areas will be moved to level three at this stage.

The BBC understands there are concerns within Public Health England at the speed of the transition.

But there is also an acknowledgement the new system could "simplify and rationalise the current set up".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-54371943

:facepalm:

[user104658]

Areas that fall into tier one will have fewer than 100 cases per 100,000 of population and will need to adhere to national restrictions - such as the "rule of six" and social distancing.

Tier two would kick in where cases are above 100 per 100,000. Restrictions for these areas would be similar to those currently in place in large parts of northern England, such as bans on household meetings.

And tier three areas would have significantly higher rates and would face full lockdowns - excluding schools and essential businesses, like supermarkets.

Areas in category 2(b) Part 1 will receive complimentary brown bread, whilst those in all sections of 4(e) will be allowed to design their own flag, which must be placed on the back of their car. They may not drive the car. Anyone with a surname beginning with the letters A, C, M, P or V will be given a £4 stipend for each year of their Netflix subscription, whilst all others will be given a year of YouTube Premium and a four pack of Monster.

the new system could "simplify and rationalise the current set up".

[arista]

The Mayor of Middlesborough
was on LBC radio
Very Angry
as the Government have not consulted him at all.

He says the restrictions
will destroy cafe's in his zone.

A link on this active story

Mayor of Middlesbrough slams government and
new lockdown measures: "They are based on ignorance"


https://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/18762499.mayor-middlesbrough-slams-government-new-lockdown-measures-based-ignorance/

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjLk3pUX0Acd7ET?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjQF2fjWAAAMBT_?format=jpg&name=medium


All of todays papers in one photo

[arista]

The Labour Leader has stated
we need a Rapid Review on Lockdown?

On a Thursday?
Parliament closes most of tomorrow.

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjJrCJZWkAAQIRJ?format=jpg&name=small


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EjOfwRsXkAADGcm?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

1311671318509760512

[arista]

Coronavirus: Another 6,914 new cases
and

59 deaths recorded in UK

SkyNewsHD


Patients in hospital
2,276

Total Covid-19 Deaths 42,202

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Steve Rotheram
Labour Mayor Liverpool city Region.
Is Demanding Evidence of why he must Lockdown more.

Hancock has given £7Million assitance
Steve said that is drop in the ocean.
He does not want a Hotel California.

He has been on all news and radio
today.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-tougher-rules-for-liverpool-warrington-hartlepool-and-middlesbrough-but-one-mayor-vows-to-defy-them-12086656

[arista]

[Covid mutiny in Middlesbrough: Town revolts
after mayor Refuses to follow new lockdown rules after
being lumped in with rest of North East along with Liverpool]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8793157/New-lockdown-rules-Liverpool-include-pubs-able-serve-alcohol-food.html

[bots]

it's true Middlesbrough is a revolting town

[Beso]

Steve Rotheram
Labour Mayor Liverpool city Region.
Is Demanding Evidence of why he must Lockdown more.

Hancock has given £7Million assitance
Steve said that is drop in the ocean.
He does not want a Hotel California.

He has been on all news and radio
today.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-tougher-rules-for-liverpool-warrington-hartlepool-and-middlesbrough-but-one-mayor-vows-to-defy-them-12086656



I saw that cock....he looked like a ghost with dandruff.

[bots]

SNP MP Margaret Ferrier has apologised for breaching Covid rules by travelling to and from London while she had coronavirus symptoms.

Ferrier says her symptoms were "mild", and that by the time she took the train to London to attend Parliament she was "feeling much better". She later tested positive for the virus.

She says she's notified the police.

"Despite feeling well, I should have self-isolated while waiting for my test result, and I deeply regret my actions," she says

:fist:

[Beso]

SNP MP Margaret Ferrier has apologised for breaching Covid rules by travelling to and from London while she had coronavirus symptoms.

Ferrier says her symptoms were "mild", and that by the time she took the train to London to attend Parliament she was "feeling much better". She later tested positive for the virus.

She says she's notified the police.

"Despite feeling well, I should have self-isolated while waiting for my test result, and I deeply regret my actions," she says

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You couldn't get anyone more dumb..get it sacked.

[Beso]

She is that dumb she never even said it's where she had to go to get a test...or maybe they thought of that and decided to just apologise...hope it goes away.

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[Jake.]

She should face jail. Absolute idiot.

[bots]

the fact that she again got in the train and travelled back after getting the test result is inexcusable

[Beso]

the fact that she again got in the train and travelled back after getting the test result is inexcusable


I agree 100 percent with that...

[Zizu]

the fact that she again got in the train and travelled back after getting the test result is inexcusable



That is unbelievable...then again she’s a politician


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[Beso]

That is unbelievable...then again she’s a politician


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Surely shes a politician that needs an adjective before her name when discussing her..

There are some good ones out there(mps)

[arista]

SNP MP Margaret Ferrier has apologised for breaching Covid rules by travelling to and from London while she had coronavirus symptoms.

Ferrier says her symptoms were "mild", and that by the time she took the train to London to attend Parliament she was "feeling much better". She later tested positive for the virus.

She says she's notified the police.

"Despite feeling well, I should have self-isolated while waiting for my test result, and I deeply regret my actions," she says

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Yes I bet on train she passed it on to others,
Her Party Suspends her
Ch4HD new just now

[Zizu]

Yes I bet on train she passed it on to others,

Her Party Suspends her

Ch4HD new just now



The authorities should make an example of her if some of the passengers come forward as testing positive. Jail ?


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[arista]

Coronavirus: Turkey and Poland added to UK's COVID-19 quarantine list

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-turkey-and-poland-added-to-englands-quarantine-list-12086820

[bots]

Ms Ferrier was one of the MPs who called on the prime minister's advisor Dominic Cummings to resign in the wake of the controversy over his visit to the north east of England during lockdown.

At the time, she said his actions had "undermined the sacrifices that we have all been making" and described his position as "untenable".

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[arista]

Ms Ferrier was one of the MPs who called on the prime minister's advisor Dominic Cummings to resign in the wake of the controversy over his visit to the north east of England during lockdown.

At the time, she said his actions had "undermined the sacrifices that we have all been making" and described his position as "untenable".

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Yes Everyone is now saying that SNP MP is
as bad as Cummings.


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[bots]

Yes Everyone is now saying that SNP MP is
as bad as Cummings.


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he at least drove in a private car ... not a trainful of passengers

[joeysteele]

Totally wrong and as Nicola Sturgeon says, it's indefensible and her own anger is strong at this lady.

However sharp contrast to our PM.
This woman is rightly suspended from the SNP.

Extremely thoughtless of her, dangerous too.
Time to go completely,the voters of Rutherglen and Hamilton West would have been better sticking with their previous MP, who they only elected in 2017.

This really is a bad incident.

[DouglasS]

9 days since my flatmate got covid, not long left until I’m free! I took a test today also just to see if I’ve caught it off him (although I think I may have had it in March!)

[user104658]

If we're being totally fair, it's actually significantly worse than Cummings... she got on a public train (and not just a short jaunt, a 5 hour train journey) after getting a positive test. It would be one thing if she had "been exposed to someone who had it" but thought she didn't have it; still careless but a mistake nonetheless - but after a positive test? :think: it's inexplicable.

[bots]

If we're being totally fair, it's actually significantly worse than Cummings... she got on a public train (and not just a short jaunt, a 5 hour train journey) after getting a positive test. It would be one thing if she had "been exposed to someone who had it" but thought she didn't have it; still careless but a mistake nonetheless - but after a positive test? :think: it's inexplicable.

She was also in the HoC spreading it to all the MP's

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[bots]

Donald Trump might have covid. A close aid has it and he is isolating awaiting test results .... however, he always talked about the 20 minute test that he used in the past ...

[arista]

Donald Trump might have covid. A close aid has it and he is isolating awaiting test results .... however, he always talked about the 20 minute test that he used in the past ...



Yes he has had a Test

[arista]

That Scottish SNP MP
got her result of being Covid on Monday.

Everyone now wants her Sacked

Ref: NewsnightHD bbc2



https://news.sky.com/story/what-did-margaret-ferrier-do-and-which-other-high-profile-figures-have-broken-coronavirus-rules-12087438

[JerseyWins]

Ah yeah, just heard from a friend that Trump has covid. Just a rumor right now from his aid having it and him not coming forward about the test results yet?

If true :omgno:

[bots]

Ah yeah, just heard from a friend that Trump has covid. Just a rumor right now from his aid having it and him not coming forward about the test results yet?

If true :omgno:

yeah, i think it's very likely he has it ... the test takes 20 minutes

[Ammi]

Ah yeah, just heard from a friend that Trump has covid. Just a rumor right now from his aid having it and him not coming forward about the test results yet?

If true :omgno:

...what’s being reported here this morning, Jersey..?...is that both he and Melania have tested positive...

[bots]

its now been confirmed positive

trump an Melania both test positive

[Cherie]

I don’t understand that SNP Mo at all, why did she travel :shrug:

[bots]

I don’t understand that SNP Mo at all, why did she travel :shrug:

my guess is she has a liason going on that she didn't want to miss ... you heard the gossip here first :laugh:

[Cherie]

my guess is she has a liason going on that she didn't want to miss ... you heard the gossip here first :laugh:

It’s all very odd, travelling by train as well, what a witch

[arista]

She was on the Train to Scotland with Covid
she had to come to Westminster for Monday, to talk in the Covid debate
her passion etc.

[bots]

Seriously though, i think she is just a whole new level of stupid ... nothing else makes sense

[arista]

Seriously though, i think she is just a whole new level of stupid ... nothing else makes sense


The Scottish leader has her Daily
News midday Covid update
If she is not standing down before then,
it could be Sacked from her Job.

[Zizu]

Seriously though, i think she is just a whole new level of stupid ... nothing else makes sense



Sooo in theory if any ( or some) of the passengers contracted the virus will she be liable for prosecution or compensation claim- given she knowingly put all those passengers at risk .


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[bots]

Sooo in theory if any ( or some) of the passengers contracted the virus will she be liable for prosecution or compensation claim- given she knowingly put all those passengers at risk .


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the short answer is yes ... i think she is bound to be prosecuted

[arista]

And on Tube and Taxi's as well

The Scottish Leader
has asked her to Resign

SNP superspreader


Margaret Ferrier: Nicola Sturgeon tells embattled MP to resign for 'dangerous' coronavirus rule breaches


https://news.sky.com/story/margaret-ferrier-mp-faces-mounting-calls-to-quit-for-coronvirus-rules-breach-12087535

[arista]

Sir Lindsay Hoyle (Parliament Leader)
was Live on SkyNewsHD All Out Politics.

He thinks she should leave her job
via her party
She acted in a reckless manner

He is Angry.
That she knew days before,
The Police must carry out their investigation,
he stated.

[user104658]

Sooo in theory if any ( or some) of the passengers contracted the virus will she be liable for prosecution or compensation claim- given she knowingly put all those passengers at risk .


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProI think we're entering very dodgy territory if we start prosecuting people for passing on a virus. Unless we want a world where if you go to work with flu, pass it on to a co-worker, who then passes it on to their granny who dies of pneumonia... You can be charged with a crime.

She's broken the guidelines and should certainly resign or be fired but she hasn't done anything that she could reasonably face criminal prosecution for.

A civil compensation claim, maybe.

[arista]

The SNP Leader is Live
with her Daily Update

Why not get rid of that criminal SNP lady?

[MTVN]

I think we're entering very dodgy territory if we start prosecuting people for passing on a virus. Unless we want a world where if you go to work with flu, pass it on to a co-worker, who then passes it on to their granny who dies of pneumonia... You can be charged with a crime.

She's broken the guidelines and should certainly resign or be fired but she hasn't done anything that she could reasonably face criminal prosecution for.

A civil compensation claim, maybe.

Failing to isolate after testing positive did become a crime (punishable by fine) as of Monday in England at least, not sure about Scotland

[bots]

Failing to isolate after testing positive did become a crime (punishable by fine) as of Monday in England at least, not sure about Scotland

she broke the law in both countries ... so maybe 2 fines?

[arista]

https://news.sky.com/story/margaret-ferrier-mp-faces-mounting-calls-to-quit-for-coronvirus-rules-breach-12087535

Yes all the SNP Leader in Edinburgh
keeps saying the thing.


Not sacking her.

[bots]

https://news.sky.com/story/margaret-ferrier-mp-faces-mounting-calls-to-quit-for-coronvirus-rules-breach-12087535

Yes all the SNP Leader
keeps saying the thing.
Not sacking her.

she can't sack her, she doesn't have the power to do anything other than remove the whip, which has been done

[arista]

She can't sack her, she doesn't have the power to do anything other than remove the whip, which has been done




Yes they all say that.

[joeysteele]

https://news.sky.com/story/margaret-ferrier-mp-faces-mounting-calls-to-quit-for-coronvirus-rules-breach-12087535

Yes all the SNP Leader in Edinburgh
keeps saying the thing.


Not sacking her.

Bots is right arista.

As an MP she cannot be sacked by the Party or leader as an MP.

She has to decide if she stands down as an MP.
Only the MP can resign as one.

[arista]

Bots is right arista.

As an MP she cannot be sacked by the Party or leader as an MP.

She has to decide if she stands down as an MP.
Only the MP can resign as one.



Yes everyone, wants her to stand down
more possible front pages on Saturday.

[user104658]

Failing to isolate after testing positive did become a crime (punishable by fine) as of Monday in England at least, not sure about Scotland

I'm assuming that those are fixed-penalty fines though, which are not prosecutions (they're an alternative to prosecution and don't result in a criminal record). I haven't actually looked into it in any detail but I assume that's the case, as court proceedings for everyone failing to adhere to Covid guidelines would be impossible to maintain.

[bots]

I'm assuming that those are fixed-penalty fines though, which are not prosecutions (they're an alternative to prosecution and don't result in a criminal record). I haven't actually looked into it in any detail but I assume that's the case, as court proceedings for everyone failing to adhere to Covid guidelines would be impossible to maintain.

i think it will be the same as all fixed penalties - pay quickly - get a discount - don't pay and it goes to court, so it is a prosecution, you have broken the law - but there is an "easy" method to shorten the process

[bots]

The UK's R number, the rate at which coronavirus spreads, has risen to between 1.3 and 1.6.

Data released by the government's scientific advisory group Sage shows the figure for the whole of the UK has risen compared with last week when it was between 1.2 and 1.5.

Sage has cautioned that while there are some early indications which suggest the growth of the epidemic might be slowing, it is too early to draw firm conclusions.

Any number over 1 means the virus is spreading exponentially.

[Zizu]

I think we're entering very dodgy territory if we start prosecuting people for passing on a virus. Unless we want a world where if you go to work with flu, pass it on to a co-worker, who then passes it on to their granny who dies of pneumonia... You can be charged with a crime.

She's broken the guidelines and should certainly resign or be fired but she hasn't done anything that she could reasonably face criminal prosecution for.

A civil compensation claim, maybe.



I’d agree up to a point if she unwittingly used a taxi /train but to do it KNOWINGLY - given her supposed intelligence and knowledge of the subject ....


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[arista]

Today Deaths : 66

Patients in hospital
2,376

6,968 News cases of Covid-19


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

42,268 Total UK deaths of Covid-19

[bots]

PM Boris Johnson has suggested the recent spike in coronavirus cases in the UK is a result of a "fraying of people's discipline" over the summer.

He said compliance with the virus restrictions had been "high at first" but then "everybody got a bit, kind of complacent and blasé".

Cases have increased sharply across the UK since the end of August.

After starting to relax restrictions before the summer, the government has since had to toughen its measures.

It comes as the latest UK figures show there have been a further 6,968 cases and another 66 deaths.

The R number - a measure of how many other people each person with the virus is infecting - has risen to between 1.3 and 1.6.

However, there is more evidence that new coronavirus infections may be increasing more slowly than in previous weeks.

In total, at least 16.8 million people in the UK - about one in four people - face extra coronavirus measures on top of the national rules, including two-thirds of people in the north of England.

The prime minister, who has been speaking to BBC journalists from around the country, denied that a lack of testing in north-east England had caused the virus to get out of control in the region.

"That's not the reality… the nation came together in March and April, what happened over the summer was a bit of sort of fraying of people's discipline and attention to those rules," he said.

The government has faced strong criticism for its mixed messages since it started easing the national lockdown in late spring.

After a steady decline in confirmed cases since the first peak in April, cases began rising again in July, with the rate of growth increasing sharply from the end of August.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54392187

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