Coronavirus Outbreak

[arista]

Was anyone actually watching ? I switched him off ~ not mad on liars


Yes Millions watched it Live as it was 7PM
waiting for their Film
but Pathetic BBC removed the Film

[Vanessa]

I always watch the daily briefings.
Just to see if there's any news and how the situation is going.
At the moment it's looking so much better.

[arista]

I always watch the daily briefings.
Just to see if there's any news and how the situation is going.
At the moment it's looking so much better.


Vanessa You Are Most Wise

[arista]

By Now

Dentist's should have Helmet of some sort on their Head
Gloves and any other item needed to stop spit getting on them.

Why the Delay
loads of kids in trouble with their teeth.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Beso]

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Can you put this back on post 701 in the dominic thread please.. where you originally posted it.

[arista]

Can you put this back on post 701 in the dominic thread please.. where you originally posted it.

Sure Done Mate

[Zizu]

By Now

Dentist's should have Helmet of some sort on their Head
Gloves and any other item needed to stop spit getting on them.

Why the Delay
loads of kids in trouble with their teeth.



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[arista]

Covid 19 Worldwide Deaths
at over 50 mark
nations


USA :101,129
UK :37,918
Italy:33,142
France :28,599
Spain:27,119
Brazil :25,598
Belgium :9,388
Mexico:8,597
Germany :8,470
Iran :7,627
Canada:6,956
Netherlands: 5,922
India:4,711
China: 4,667
Turkey:4,461
Sweden :4,266
Russia:4,142
Peru:3,983
Ecuador:3,313
Switzerland:1,919
Ireland:1,639
Indonesia:1,496
Portugal:1,369
Pakistan: 1,260
Romania:1,235
Poland:1,038
Philippines :912
Chile:890
Japan :881
Egypt:845
Colombia:833
Ukraine:669
Austria:668
Algeria:630
Denmark:568
Bangladesh :559
South Africa:552
Hungary:509
Argentina:501
Dominican Republic:485
Saudi Arabia :441
Czechia:318
Panama:315
Finland:313
Moldova:282
Israel :281
Bolivia:280
South Korea:269
United Arab Emirates:258
Nigeria :254
Serbia:241
Norway:236
Afghanistan:235
Belarus:219
Morocco:202
Sudan:195
Honduras:194
Kuwait:185
Iraq:179
Greece:175
Cameron :175
Iraq:175
Bosnia: 153
Bulgaria:134
Malaysia :115
North Macedonia:121
Armenia:113
Luxembourg:110
Slovenia:108
Australia:103
Croatia:102
Cuba:82
Somalia:72
Mali :72
Congo (DRC):69
Guatemala:68
Lithuania:68
Estonia:66
Chad:65
Niger:65
Kenya:58
Thailand :57
Yemen:57
Azerbaijan:56
Burkina Faso:53
Andorra:51


Professional Data : https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

USA update from CNN HD

[Zizu]

Heard some guy on LBC say that the NW has the highest new infections rate in the UK ... . I’m sure he said the figure was around 3,000 a day ??

Can that be right ??


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[Kizzy]

Has the USA stopped releasing their figures?

[arista]

Has the USA stopped releasing their figures?

No not at all.

They are close to 100,000

98,184 at the moment

Top of the List

[Nicky91]

yes Spain has excluded 1.900 people from their deaths total, after more carefully reviewing their list of deaths, and came to conclusion those people had not died of covid

i'm sure Belgium will do the same too given they also put every death now listed as a covid death (also normal pneumonia deaths) so those will be excluded later on at some point too

[Kizzy]

No not at all.

They are close to 100,000

98,184 at the moment

Top of the List

I see that, not that I'm wishing for more at all but it seems to have been that for a while.

[user104658]

Heard some guy on LBC say that the NW has the highest new infections rate in the UK ... . I’m sure he said the figure was around 3,000 a day ??

Can that be right ??


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3000 infected = (approx) 21 deaths so it's (relatively speaking) not all that high.

[arista]

I see that, not that I'm wishing for more at all but it seems to have been that for a while.


Its being going up around 1000
a day


So last week it was 89,874

[user104658]

No not at all.

They are close to 100,000

98,184 at the moment

Top of the List

Kizzy is correct Arista ( :omgno: ), that's last week's number you silly goose.

The current (supposedly) correct total for the US is 99,805 according to many sources. Though different US sites are listing different numbers, which doesn't help.

TBH I suspect they've started doing a China. I don't think they're reporting fully. The per day figure dropped suddenly, coinciding with the desire/drive to end lockdown.

[user104658]

Its being going up around 1000
a day


So last week it was 89,874

https://i.imgur.com/jASOg5V.png


:think: your figures are all over the place, poster. I'd accept there having been some sort of correction or something over the past week, but given that you posted exactly the same number 6 days ago as you did today, either you're psychic, or today's figure is a mistake.

I'm not sure we can trust your numbers any more risty :worry:.

[arista]

Kizzy is correct Arista ( :omgno: ), that's last week's number you silly goose.

The current (supposedly) correct total for the US is 99,805 according to many sources. Though different US sites are listing different numbers, which doesn't help.

TBH I suspect they've started doing a China. I don't think they're reporting fully. The per day figure dropped suddenly, coinciding with the desire/drive to end lockdown.


USA is

98,223 deaths


Hopkins Site

[arista]

https://i.imgur.com/jASOg5V.png


:think: your figures are all over the place, poster. I'd accept there having been some sort of correction or something over the past week, but given that you posted exactly the same number 6 days ago as you did today, either you're psychic, or today's figure is a mistake.

I'm not sure we can trust your numbers any more risty :worry:.


They are not my numbers


98,223 deaths

US

Hopkins now


If you go back to the to page 11 its updated yesterday
Thats how I copy it all, so the one before is changed
Check the EDIT DATE
TS
you fool

[user104658]

USA is



98,223 deaths





Hopkins SiteAnd it was 98,184 6 days ago? So there have been 39 deaths in 6 days?

Thats wonderful news.

[arista]

And it was 98,184 6 days ago? So there have been 39 deaths in 6 days?

Thats wonderful news.

No
I get USA Deaths from CNN Live
and Hopkins Site

[arista]

I have always updated the one before
so I can Copy it for today
nothing has changed in the way I do it.

[user104658]

I have always updated the one before
so I can Copy it for today
nothing has changed in the way I do it.But YOU posted that it was 98,184 on the 20th of May. I took a screenshot of your post, it's right there. You can go back and look for yourself?

Unless you mean you went back today and changed the old one? Which is an even stranger decision honestly.

[arista]

But YOU posted that it was 98,184 on the 20th of May. I took a screenshot of your post, it's right there. You can go back and look for yourself?

Unless you mean you went back today and changed the old one? Which is an even stranger decision honestly.


NO TS
last night page 11 was Edited
Copied for today.
JUST CHECK THE EDIT DATE


Why can you not understand that


Thats the fastest way to work

[arista]

TS
page 11 Updated last night

Today at 02:50 AM. Updated for todays Copy

I always go back to the last list
Edit it (thus changing numbers) , Copy it
Post it


Can
you Now Understand?

[user104658]

NO TS
last night page 11 was Edited
Copied for today.CHECK THE EDIT DATE


Why can you not understand that


Thats the fastest way to work

So you went back and changed the number in the previous post... saved the changes... and copied the info into a new post.

I can understand the process but the motivation is a mystery to me; far from being the fastest... this sounds like the slowest and most confusing way of doing it I can imagine. You could just copy it and... not save the changes.

These death league totals are pointless in my opinion anyway, as you know, buit they're rendered even more useless if you're going back and altering the previous posts so that people can't even check for changes over time!

[arista]

So you went back and changed the number in the previous post... saved the changes... and copied the info into a new post.

I can understand the process but the motivation is a mystery to me; far from being the fastest... this sounds like the slowest and most confusing way of doing it I can imagine. You could just copy it and... not save the changes.

These death league totals are pointless in my opinion anyway, as you know, but they're rendered even more useless if you're going back and altering the previous posts so that people can't even check for changes over time!


YES

It's the only way to do it
Update the numbers
Save
Copy it.


Sadly I have a Windows 10 PC
that keeps fast turn off , restart
So I have to keep saving in case the bugger turns off fast

I have another Computer PC running
but not for this

[user104658]

YES

Why?

[arista]

"These death league totals are pointless in my opinion anyway, as you know, "


Yes TS but I am still going to post them
Like Herd Nation Sweden Deaths above 4K now

[arista]

Why?


My Windows 10 PC
can turn off fast and restart
all that I edit is Lost.
not allowed to save work


Thats a bloody long list.


I have Technician
to fix it using Team Viewer
soon.

[user104658]

My Windows 10 PC
can turn off fast and restart
all that I edit is Lost.
not allowed to save work


I didn't know libraries were still open..

[The Slim Reaper]

Good news about car dealerships opening up again, I can finally get my eyes tested.

[arista]

Good news about car dealerships opening up again, I can finally get my eyes tested.


Yes in time to save Car Showrooms

[The Slim Reaper]

Yes in time to save Car Showrooms

On a serious note, not sure how many average income people are going to be rushing out buying new cars.

[Liam-]

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[arista]

On a serious note, not sure how many average income people are going to be rushing out buying new cars.


Some Old Folks are

[arista]

LIAM

"a new analysis suggests."


Why is this not on every TV news?????

[user104658]

On a serious note, not sure how many average income people are going to be rushing out buying new cars.

We're actually looking at cars at the moment :joker:. As showrooms haven't been open, they do little personalised "video tours" of the cars (hilarious and awkward) and will even deliver to your home, and wipe everything down (and you're supposed to leave it sitting for a few days as an extra precaution.

Things will probably be mostly open by the time we actually buy, though.

[user104658]

Obviously furloughed people/those whose jobs are at risk aren't financially in a great spot, but people who are still working/WFH actually have a bit of cash to burn at the moment I think. Nothing to spend it on after bills and food, so excess income has been building up for the 3rd month in a row now :think:.

[Liam-]

LIAM

"a new analysis suggests."


Why is this not on every TV news?????

As I don’t run the media, I can’t answer that Arista

[The Slim Reaper]

Some Old Folks are

Those old folks might have to now help their families out instead of buying a new car.

[user104658]

Those old folks might have to now help their families out instead of buying a new car.

That'll be a year or so down the line, I think there will be an initial spending spike when things re-open, when people spend the money that's been burning a hole in their pocket since February. It'll take a bit longer for companies to start making redundancies and everyone to realise they're flat broke.

[arista]

Those old folks might have to now help their families out instead of buying a new car.


No they can get their new Hi Tec car
Fast
then help their kids

[arista]

As I don’t run the media, I can’t answer that Arista


Of course
my point is
it needs to be on TV news
not just guess work

[Niamh.]

No new deaths in Ireland in the past 24 hours! Great news

[bots]

The government is kidding themselves if they think people are going to go out and spend, spend, spend on the high street in a couple of weeks. People who wanted to buy something simply bought it on-line already, and aren't likely to return to the high street any time soon. The high street will likely never recover, on-line shopping has progressed by about 5 years in market share, and they are unlikely to lose that now given people are now accustomed to on-line shopping

[user104658]

The government is kidding themselves if they think people are going to go out and spend, spend, spend on the high street in a couple of weeks. People who wanted to buy something simply bought it on-line already, and aren't likely to return to the high street any time soon. The high street will likely never recover, on-line shopping has progressed by about 5 years in market share, and they are unlikely to lose that now given people are now accustomed to on-line shopping

I agree, I have to admit I bought everything online before now anyway (I'm one of those awful people who would actually go and look at products in a shop then order it on my phone stood right there in the shop :umm2: ). A lot of people will have dipped their toes into ordering online now and won't go back.

[arista]

No new deaths in Ireland in the past 24 hours! Great news

That happens on many nations now
then the Jump up
with deaths , sadly.


Like Herd Nation Sweden
now over 4K

[Niamh.]

That happens on many nations now
then the Jump up
with deaths , sadly.


Like Herd Nation Sweden
now over 4K

Well, it still nice to go one day hearing that no one has died from it. The next couple of weeks will tell a lot though now we've started slowly relaxing the lockdown

[Cherie]

No new deaths in Ireland in the past 24 hours! Great news

That is good news!

[Cherie]

The government is kidding themselves if they think people are going to go out and spend, spend, spend on the high street in a couple of weeks. People who wanted to buy something simply bought it on-line already, and aren't likely to return to the high street any time soon. The high street will likely never recover, on-line shopping has progressed by about 5 years in market share, and they are unlikely to lose that now given people are now accustomed to on-line shopping

I personally think people will go out, for the sheer novelty value, whether they buy or not is another thing, look at B n Q and Maccie Ds when they opened ….mile long queues and people have money in their pockets now, some will think may as well spend it

[Marsh.]

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[user104658]

I personally think people will go out, for the sheer novelty value, whether they buy or not is another thing, look at B n Q and Maccie Ds when they opened ….mile long queues and people have money in their pockets now, some will think may as well spend it

Yes that's more or less my thinking - but it won't last long. Things like drive-thru's are going to be booming for the rest of this year at least though.

[Nicky91]

NL

10 new hospitalisations

26 new dead 5,856

[arista]

5PM Briefing Matt Hancock Heath Sec.
10 Downing St.

How the hell is he going stop
Wasted Cummings questions.

Johnson PM at least halts them


UK Death Total is 37,048

[The Slim Reaper]

5PM Briefing Matt Hancock Heath Sec.
10 Downing St.

How the hell is he going stop
Wasted Cummings questions.

Johnson PM at least halts them


UK Death Total is 37,048

Now you're calling for more press censorship? You've changed buddy.

[arista]

Now you're calling for more press censorship? You've changed buddy.


No I am Not

But Many of us have moved on from Cummings

You can not remove him by moaning forever
taking Health Questions over is wrong

Ask Cummings questions,
then dismiss it
see if they have a better question?


1st of June Schools go back- that's far more important Slim.

[They released a statement saying they weren't going to be taking Cummings
Questions]
Already some Sense Slim

[user104658]

No I am Not

But Many of us have moved on from Cummings

Most haven't, most realise that the government telling bare-faced porky pies is quite important stuff.


You can not remove him by moaning forever
taking Health Questions over is wrong


People shouldn't be bullied into taking the pressure off of the government. It's one of the keystones of a democratic system. The government has put it's foot down so now the public/press should just give up? Sorry that's not how this works.

There are no pressing health questions right now. When there is a major development in terms of lockdown/covid, I'm sure they'll let us know. Right now things are pretty quiet and we can take some time to hold the government to account for shameful dishonesty.


[They released a statement saying they weren't going to be taking Cummings
Questions]
Already some Sense Slim

Pff. Straight out of the Trump playbook. I hope the press ignore it and continue to do their job, and if they're shut down, they should walk out without asking anything at all. De-platform the ****ers until they want to behave like public servants (which they are) instead of lords & masters (which they wish they were).

[Cherie]

I do find it odd that the schools going back on Monday is getting barely a mention

[arista]

"Straight out of the Trump playbook."

Possibly TS.

Well done at last Conservative MP
sticking up for Cummings.
Good on you lady
BBCNewsHD live

[arista]

"Straight out of the Trump playbook."

Possibly TS.

Well done at last Conservative MP
sticking up for Cummings.
Good on you lady
BBCNewsHD live

[arista]

I do find it odd that the schools going back on Monday is getting barely a mention


Well they can today


No Cummings questions permitted

[hijaxers]

No I am Not

But Many of us have moved on from Cummings

You can not remove him by moaning forever
taking Health Questions over is wrong

Ask Cummings questions,
then dismiss it
see if they have a better question?


1st of June Schools go back- that's far more important Slim.

[They released a statement saying they weren't going to be taking Cummings
Questions]
Already some Sense Slim

Not taking questions on Cummings ~ one mistake after another !

[arista]

Live Now

[Withano]

Over the last seven days, the UK has killed more citizens than any other country (per one million residents).

And people tried arguing the government were doing a good job when they eased lockdown lol.

[arista]

Laura BBC

Cummings Question/

Waste of time


ITV Peston
CUT Off Fast

[Strictly Jake]

Why are they not answering the questions?????

[arista]

Well Done Evening Standard
asks about Test and Trace

[arista]

Why are they not answering the questions?????

They are


But on Cummings he can Cut them off

[arista]

In the Future
if there is a Flare Up
you will have a Local Lockdown

[arista]

Just 30mins.
Hancock was brief

[The Slim Reaper]

They are


But on Cummings he can Cut them off

Are you seriously in favour of any government being able to just answer what they want? Take Cummings out of the equation.

[bots]

Are you seriously in favour of any government being able to just answer what they want? Take Cummings out of the equation.

he can't respond, his tongue is busy

[Liam-]

So Hancock has said that they’re going to investigate all fines for similar things Cummings did.. they really are trying to rewrite history to protect one man.

Maybe it is best for kids to go to school, before the Tories burn all the books

[Nicky91]

So Hancock has said that they’re going to investigate all fines for similar things Cummings did.. they really are trying to rewrite history to protect one man.

Maybe it is best for kids to go to school, before the Tories burn all the books

:facepalm: yeah why go for the easier option, when you can do the difficult one to protect the saint top advisor

also this just shows elitism within the Tories even more, how far they go to protect their own :umm2:

[Cherie]

So Hancock has said that they’re going to investigate all fines for similar things Cummings did.. they really are trying to rewrite history to protect one man.

Maybe it is best for kids to go to school, before the Tories burn all the books

He didn’t really have a choice, it was a question from a member of them public :laugh:

[Cherie]

Only 401 hospital admissions yesterday, the lowest since mid March

and 2,004 infections ...all in the NW ( for Zizus benefit) :hehe:

[bots]

So Hancock has said that they’re going to investigate all fines for similar things Cummings did.. they really are trying to rewrite history to protect one man.

Maybe it is best for kids to go to school, before the Tories burn all the books

what he actually committed to was talking to the treasury department about it, which basically means nothing. He is the health secretary :laugh:

[Liam-]

So surely by committing to investigating these fines, is basically an admission of guilt on behalf of the government, like why would they do that, if they don’t recognise that what Cummings did was unfair and wrong?

[arista]

Are you seriously in favour of any government being able to just answer what they want? Take Cummings out of the equation.


BBC Laura wasted a question on it

ITV Peston did the same got a fast reply and Cut off supper fast

[arista]

Lets be Fair
Dom spent an Hour taking questions
yesterday.

NewsnightHD will debate it

[Beso]

Do you think the cummings thing will be the lasting judgement on how the government has dealt with the coronavirus?

It would be tragic if it were, they have done so well in all this, all things considered. I think I was sitting here last month looking at figures in the thousands of the people who had died that day. All the measures they have put in place both financially to support the workers that are furloughed or the Grants for the self employed(the money thrown around has been extraordinary)..but also the strength they have given us and the hope and belief it will eventually be over has kept us all going.They actually for once treated us like adults and humans and seemed to believe in us as a nation to come together and on the whole the were right.

[Zizu]

Only 401 hospital admissions yesterday, the lowest since mid March

and 2,004 infections ...all in the NW ( for Zizus benefit) :hehe:



It’s scary up here in the NW !!

Confirmed cases in our little town ..

639 up to 24th April
653 up to 1st May
725 up to 8th May

So the infection rate was ‘increasing’ even before the restrictions were slightly lifted ..
Now our schools are welcoming back many more pupils next Monday !!



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[AnnieK]

It’s scary up here in the NW !!

Confirmed cases in our little town ..

639 up to 24th April
653 up to 1st May
725 up to 8th May

So the infection rate was ‘increasing’ even before the restrictions were slightly lifted ..
Now our schools are welcoming back many more pupils next Monday !!



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The number of tests carried out were increasing though so the numbers were always going to go up. Salford Royal was hot hard at first but has had a couple of days with no new deaths and the same with Manchester NHS....it is still bad up here but the NHS trusts in the North West are doing a brilliant job.

[arista]

['Local lockdowns' to be introduced in UK for
future coronavirus 'flare-ups'
Stricter social distancing measures could
be introduced in certain areas as
part of the "test and trace" system.]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-local-lockdowns-for-future-covid-19-flare-ups-reveals-health-secretary-matt-hancock-11995159

[Cherie]

The number of tests carried out were increasing though so the numbers were always going to go up. Salford Royal was hot hard at first but has had a couple of days with no new deaths and the same with Manchester NHS....it is still bad up here but the NHS trusts in the North West are doing a brilliant job.

Exactly, it’s the numbers being admitted to hospital is key and that is the lowest itsbeen since mid March

[Crimson Dynamo]

No evidence that the virus stays on paper or card. NHS now sending Covid reports in 24 Hours. Schools and churches please take note.

Of course be postie's knew this ages ago

[The Slim Reaper]

In a move that will please Arista, tories are also banned from questioning Boris

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[Zizu]

what he actually committed to was talking to the treasury department about it, which basically means nothing. He is the health secretary :laugh:



It’s funny how people continue to TWIST what someone actually says to fit into what they thought they said and spread the new version all over the place :)


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[Beso]

No evidence that the virus stays on paper or card. NHS now sending Covid reports in 24 Hours. Schools and churches please take note.

Of course be postie's knew this ages ago

72 hours on stainless steel and plastic though...


Edit, Ive been pmd twice about rubber since posting.


Edit edit...by the same.person.

[arista]

In a move that will please Arista, tories are also banned from questioning Boris

1265356276860686336


It does not please me.

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

At around 4PM today
Johnson PM is due in front of a Select Committee
unless he finds a way to avoid it.

[Cherie]

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So the reason for this, rather than an influx of new patients, is due to asymptomatic staff testing positive, so they wish to track and trace all those that the staff have come into contact with, and also the staff have to self isolate leading to staffing issues, so a completely misleading and unnecessary tweet

[arista]

Yes Covid 19 panic.

[Liam-]

So the reason for this, rather than an influx of new patients, is due to asymptomatic staff testing positive, so they wish to track and trace all those that the staff have come into contact with, and also the staff have to self isolate leading to staffing issues, so a completely misleading and unnecessary tweet

In fairness, it’s not misleading as at the time of that tweet, that information clearly wasn’t out there, so the report was based on what was known

[Cherie]

In fairness, it’s not misleading as at the time of that tweet, that information clearly wasn’t out there, so the report was based on what was known

The statement said it was a precautionary which does not indicate at all that the hospital was over run which was the implication of the tweet, and just basically scaremongering and feeding into anxiety at best

[bots]

The statement said it was a precautionary which does not indicate at all that the hospital was over run which was the implication of the tweet, and just basically scaremongering and feeding into anxiety at best

there has been a lot of that about, which is why i stopped soaking up all the covid related information. I know the basics -- there is a virus, to avoid catching it, social distance ... the further the better - none of this 2 metre crap which is rubbish

[Nicky91]

NL update for today

15 new dead (5,871)

7 new hospitalisations (number of registered hospitalised covid patients total now at 11,697)

[Cherie]

NL update for today

15 new dead (5,871)

7 new hospitalisations (number of registered hospitalised covid patients total now at 11,697)

You have more patients in hospital than the UK Nicky, 8,802 here yesterday how weird is that

[arista]

The statement said it was a precautionary which does not indicate at all that the hospital was over run which was the implication of the tweet, and just basically scaremongering and feeding into anxiety at best


SkyNewsHD Reporter outside the Hospital
said many staff are reported to be infected,
they are doing tests now

[Nicky91]

You have more patients in hospital than the UK Nicky, 8,300 here yesterday how weird is that

yes at first it was mostly younger people in hospitals and at ICU (especially and specifically those with underlying medical conditions relating to the lungs)

but now majority in hospitals and ICU is between age group of 50 and 60

and most of them who require loads of treatment are within overweight and obese underlying risk group

but yeah this total well is the complete total who are/had been in hospital, there are no numbers here available how many there are currently in hospital

neither are we showing the recovered statistics, but i do know myself we do have quite some recoveries (would be nice if we make this data available too for other countries, just for comparison but idk why we don't do that)

[Cherie]

yes at first it was mostly younger people in hospitals and at ICU (especially and specifically those with underlying medical conditions relating to the lungs)

but now majority in hospitals and ICU is between age group of 50 and 60

and most of them who require loads of treatment are within overweight and obese underlying risk group

but yeah this total well is the complete total who are/had been in hospital, there are no numbers here available how many there are currently in hospital

neither are we showing the recovered statistics, but i do know myself we do have quite some recoveries (would be nice if we make this data available too for other countries, just for comparison but idk why we don't do that)

oh right I thought you meant the total in hospital now, that makes sense

[arista]

Johnson PM is Live for 90mins
at 4PM.

MP's only are permitted 20mins
for any Cummings Questions.

Johnson can sort them out.

As well as Both News channels
also, on Parliament Ch.

[arista]

The PM is LIVE

412 Deaths

UK Death Total today:37,460

[Denver]

Over double the amount which I am guessing a good proportion are from bank holiday weekend

[arista]

Over double the amount which I am guessing a good proportion are from bank holiday weekend

Yes could well be

[arista]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-live-boris-johnson-grilled-by-super-committee-of-mps-over-dominic-cummings-row-11995631

Watch Live now

[arista]

Johnson
talking back to the SNP
said "Sorry" for Cummings.
And said now MOVE ON

[arista]

Cocky Meg Hiller
Labour trying to force the PM
to publish Cummings Data

The PM said "Move On"

[Liam-]

God he’s a disaster, he’s smirking his entire way through this, he thinks it’s all a big joke

[arista]

God he’s a disaster, he’s smirking his entire way through this, he thinks it’s all a big joke


No Labour MP's
are being Rude

[Liam-]

No Labour MP's
are being Rude

By asking questions and refusing to let him waffle his way out of answering them? K

[Liam-]

Yvette Cooper is an angel

[hijaxers]

Johnson
talking back to the SNP
said "Sorry" for Cummings.
And said now MOVE ON

He can say Move On as much as he likes ~ its not going to happen ~ people are very angry !

Also exactly which stories were ficticious ?

[bots]

Johnson
talking back to the SNP
said "Sorry" for Cummings.
And said now MOVE ON

that's not how it works arista, the committee will move on when they are good and ready

[arista]

By asking questions and refusing to let him waffle his way out of answering them? K


He did answer them.
And told them to Move On.

[arista]

that's not how it works arista, the committee will move on when they are good and ready


Sure
This a 90mins Edition
Maybe he has strong coffee on his table in
Downing St.

[user104658]

He did answer them.
And told them to Move On.

He can't "tell" them to do anything because he's the head of a public service, not a dictator. He can ASK them to move on, and they can refuse if they want.

[arista]

He can say Move On as much as he likes ~ its not going to happen ~ people are very angry !

Also exactly which stories were ficticious ?


Bloody Fake Front Pages
Pathetic Mirror and Guardian
I posted them
He never went to the Grand Parents Twice
FACT FACT FACT


Example
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/12806/production/_112428757_sunday-mirror.jpg

[arista]

He can't "tell" them to do anything because he's the head of a public service, not a dictator. He can ASK them to move on, and they can refuse if they want.

Of course TS.

[user104658]

He never went to the Grand Parents Twice
FACT FACT FACT
[/IMG]

How do you know?

[arista]

How do you know?

During the long Cummings Press Conf'.
He said its on his Mobile Phone
that he was in London,
when those Fake Front pages
claim he was up north.

[bots]

During the long Cummings Press Conf'.
He said its on his Mobile Phone
that he was in London,
when those Fake Front pages
claim he was up north.

and you believe every word Cummings says, but anyone else is a liar?

[arista]

and you believe every word Cummings says, but anyone else is a liar?


The PM has seen it
The Police can also see it
It's a Fact.

[The Slim Reaper]

2 is the magic number. Yes it is, it's the magic number.

[bots]

The PM has seen it
The Police can also see it
It a Fact.

but you believe Cummings above everyone else, you already these last weeks trashed the PM so he counts for nothing surely ... or is it different now because he is backing Cummings?

[The Slim Reaper]

takes 2 lenses to make a pair of glasses, takes two nieces to sacrifice to covid.

No more no less.

[thesheriff443]

takes 2 lenses to make a pair of glasses, takes two nieces to sacrifice to covid.

No more no less.

Yourl all about no2’s

[user104658]

The PM has seen it

The Police can also see it

It a Fact.Can I see it?

[arista]

but you believe Cummings above everyone else, you already these last weeks trashed the PM so he counts for nothing surely ... or is it different now because he is backing Cummings?


On those Fake Front pages
I bloody do trust his word.



I can trash the PM whenever he is hiding
Its still the same.

You - can not box me up

[arista]

Can I see it?


If you are a Copper
yes.

[user104658]

If you are a Copper

yes.I'm not. So I guess I don't have to believe it.

I don't know that Cummings was in London when he says he was. I know he's a liar. I know Boris is a liar. Why would I believe either of them? As far as I know the police haven't, and don't intend to, release any sort of statement at all about this sooo I guess him being in London on [X date] at [X time] is not a "fact fact fact" - it is a claim made by two unashamed, regular liars. Maybe he was maybe he wasn't.

[arista]

I'm not. So I guess I don't have to believe it.

I don't know that Cummings was in London when he says he was. I know he's a liar. I know Boris is a liar. Why would I believe either of them? As far as I know the police haven't, and don't intend to, release any sort of statement at all about this sooo I guess him being in London on [X date] at [X time] is not a "fact fact fact" - it is a claim made by two unashamed, regular liars. Maybe he was maybe he wasn't.


Look have faith
in that Mobile phone record, TS

It can be used
in a Court of Law.

[arista]

Going over 90mins

[Kazanne]

but you believe Cummings above everyone else, you already these last weeks trashed the PM so he counts for nothing surely ... or is it different now because he is backing Cummings?

But surely but that same token bots, some people believe anyone else over Cummings,it works both ways except for the media.

[Kazanne]

Look have faith
in that Mobile phone record, TS

It can be used
in a Court of Law.

Yes he did say it was on his mobile and that it was false that he did it twice.

[hijaxers]

Well my mind has not changed in the slightest Cummings needs to go.

[arista]

Daily Late Briefing
Now on.

Hancock MP
10 Downing St.

You may need SkyNewsHD for it in full.

[arista]

Well my mind has not changed in the slightest Cummings needs to go.


NO
the PM is keeping him in place.

[Marsh.]

Yourl all about no2’s

*You're

[Nicky91]

no more covid press conferences here in Netherlands anyway

[arista]

no more covid press conferences here in Netherlands anyway


Its on BBCnews Ch

[AnnieK]

His work mobile being on London means nothing. I have a work and personal mobile...I certainly would not take my work mobile on a jolly with me,it would be redirected to a colleague

[Cherie]

I have always been under the impression it was a pre booked Easter holiday, so he could possibly have returned to London without Mary and the child and returned to get them at a later date

[bots]

his car reg will have been captured on many cameras on a route like that, so if he is telling porkies it will soon get out

[hijaxers]

his car reg will have been captured on many cameras on a route like that, so if he is telling porkies it will soon get out

The police seem to have been silenced over it all though , lets face it Boris needs his guidance and can't live without the little weasel.

[arista]

[The government's coronavirus
test and trace system will be up and running tomorrow,
Prime Minister Boris Johnson has said.
Anyone in England who has been in close
contact with someone who has been
infected with COVID-19 will be asked
to isolate for 14 days even if they
have no symptoms.]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-governments-test-and-trace-programme-to-launch-tomorrow-11995671

[MTVN]

Good of the gov to have got it up running four days ahead of schedule

[thesheriff443]

*You're

You’re right.

[Kazanne]

Good of the gov to have got it up running four days ahead of schedule

Not many on here will be interested in anything good they do MTVN, but I for one think its a step in the right direction and well done to them.

[Marsh.]

Not many on here will be interested in anything good they do MTVN, but I for one think its a step in the right direction and well done to them.

Repeating this in every thread makes you narrow minded, no one else.

[Kazanne]

Repeating this in every thread makes you narrow minded, no one else.

I will repeat whatever I want , and its the first time ive said it:shrug:

[Marsh.]

I will repeat whatever I want

Yes, and I will comment on it whenever I want.

and its the first time ive said it:shrug:

It's not. People have memories.

[Kazanne]

Yes, and I will comment on it whenever I want.



It's not. People have memories.

ok

[Cherie]

I will repeat whatever I want , and its the first time ive said it:shrug:

You are entitled to your views same as anyone else Kaz

[Marsh.]

You are entitled to your views same as anyone else Kaz

Who said she couldn't?

Answer: No one.

[Cherie]

Not many on here will be interested in anything good they do MTVN, but I for one think its a step in the right direction and well done to them.

Our Cal could be ringing us by the weekend :amazed:

[DouglasS]

Repeating this in every thread makes you narrow minded, no one else.

Well then everyone hating on the the government / Boris for the exact same reason in every different thread would make them narrow minded by your account?

[DouglasS]

Seems like a media witch hunt which is similar to what happened to Caroline Flack a few months ago, you’d think the media would learn

[Marsh.]

Well then everyone hating on the the government / Boris for the exact same reason in every different thread would make them narrow minded by your account?

"Hating on" Grow up Jack.

[Marsh.]

Seems like a media witch hunt which is similar to what happened to Caroline Flack a few months ago, you’d think the media would learn

Yes, holding the government to account for shambles decisions is entirely comparable to a young woman's suicide 3 months ago.

Good one.

[Denver]

Hopefully this drug they got now will work well and stop people needing ventilation as they hope it will as that will be a major help if we are to hit a 2nd spike

[Kazanne]

Our Cal could be ringing us by the weekend :amazed:

:laugh::laugh:she better be in fine fettle,lol,lol

[Kazanne]

Seems like a media witch hunt which is similar to what happened to Caroline Flack a few months ago, you’d think the media would learn

Will they ever Douglas? I doubt it, :wavey: whatever happened to that slogan #Be kind lol

[Marsh.]

Yes, when faced with a government who have absolutely no respect for the people of their country and tell obvious and open lies in response to it, it's the people that need to be kind.

Let the Prime Minister's advisor get away with anything, you know, because Caroline Flack committed suicide... or Hitler... or something.

[arista]

Good of the gov to have got it up running four days ahead of schedule


Also, some pubs may open more Early, now

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZDh1oSX0AICkS2?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZDawTLWkAEfr-z?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZDV-IZXkAANK3e?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

USA reaches 100,127 Total Deaths

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/182C5/production/_112531099_metro.jpg

[arista]

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/18329/production/_112531199_express.jpg

[Denver]

The USA has hit 100k deaths

[arista]

The USA has hit 100k deaths

I have posted the amount
between the Mail and Metro

[arista]

1265835937310797825


A USA Clever Lady
Single Mum.

[Cherie]

https://ltccovid.org/2020/05/11/canada-country-report-updated-care-home-residents-are-now-accounting-for-82-of-all-covid-19-deaths/

82% of Canadian deaths have been in care homes, 10 -15 per cent above the global average

[Cherie]

1265835937310797825


A USA Clever Lady
Single Mum.

:joker: brilliant

[Cherie]

Good of the gov to have got it up running four days ahead of schedule

England and Scotland start today...

[Nicky91]

1st of July, the casino's, gyms will reopen here in Netherlands

[Zizu]

On the radio someone just said that if we get a text telling us we’d been in close contact with a confirmed virus sufferer we should go stay home for 14 days even if we have no symptoms at all ... yet others in your household can carry on as normal !?!

That makes no sense ...


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[AnnieK]

Is Boris doing a 3 week review broadcast today?

[AnnieK]

On the radio someone just said that if we get a text telling us we’d been in close contact with a confirmed virus sufferer we should go stay home for 14 days even if we have no symptoms at all ... yet others in your household can carry on as normal !?!

That makes no sense ...


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That's what Matt Hancock said on Peston last night. Your household only need to isolate if you start displaying symptoms.

[The Slim Reaper]

Good thread to read on our handling of things. Chris Giles is economics editor for the financial times.

1265885480144470023

[arista]

Yes Slim
good of the FT - making that free to read.
And yes it's a grim report

[Zizu]

Matthew Garrahan
@MattGarrahan
NEW: the UK now has the highest coronavirus death rate as a proportion of population of any country in the world.
https://www.ft.com/content/6b4c784e-c259-4ca4-9a82-648ffde71bf0

Thrust of the article is that going into lockdown too late made a huge difference. I don't think anyone still denies that was the case, question for the government later on will be how much of that decision was based on 'the science'.


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[Zizu]

BREAKING Full Independent Sage report to be published today will say it is NOT safe for schools to re-open on June 1. Re-opening risks pushing the R rate above one, say scientists led by former government chief adviser David King

Sian Griffiths (Times) via Twitter


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[arista]

A Report on TV news yesterday
said UK Zoo's need to open soon
or some will close for good.

I am sure they can put distancing thin wood
and markers around.
And make sure the amount going in is not too many.

[Beso]

Yes, holding the government to account for shambles decisions is entirely comparable to a young woman's suicide 3 months ago.

Good one.



What shambolic decisions?

[arista]

BREAKING Full Independent Sage report to be published today will say it is NOT safe for schools to re-open on June 1. Re-opening risks pushing the R rate above one, say scientists led by former government chief adviser David King

Sian Griffiths (Times) via Twitter


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Yes but Johnson PM is saying they will not all open
on that first day.


Some Schools
have made massive preparations
so they are going ahead 1st of June.

[The Slim Reaper]

1265820837950570498

[MTVN]

It seems the main reason we have ultimately fared worse than Italy is because the virus was actually contained to mainly just the north of the country. The horror scenes from Lombardy and massive death toll there belied the fact that most of the country was little affected and places like Naples and Sicily not affected at all. Here by contrast pretty much every region has been impacted. Maybe that's partly due to locking down late but it was also made much more likely due to how densely populated the UK is and the number of large urban centres in close proximity

[The Slim Reaper]

It seems the main reason we have ultimately fared worse than Italy is because the virus was actually contained to mainly just the north of the country. The horror scenes from Lombardy and massive death toll there belied the fact that most of the country was little affected and places like Naples and Sicily not affected at all. Here by contrast pretty much every region has been impacted. Maybe that's partly due to locking down late but it was also made much more likely due to how densely populated the UK is and the number of large urban centres in close proximity

Partly due to locking down late? That alone completely exacerbates any population density issues, and on the back of warnings that stretched back to late december. We had one of the longest lead ins and did nothing with it.

[MTVN]

Partly due to locking down late? That alone completely exacerbates any population density issues, and on the back of warnings that stretched back to late december. We had one of the longest lead ins and did nothing with it.

It's only part of the story, an earlier lockdown would not have been the silver bullet that it's now being made out as. We actually had fewer deaths in this country than Italy did when they locked down. My view is that there's a lot of inherent factors - population density, amount of international travel, number of large cities, presence of London, possibly high levels of obesity etc - that mean the UK would always have been one of the worst affected countries by this outbreak

[The Slim Reaper]

It's only part of the story, an earlier lockdown would not have been the silver bullet that it's now being made out as. We actually had fewer deaths in this country than Italy did when they locked down. My view is that there's a lot of inherent factors - population density, amount of international travel, number of large cities, presence of London, possibly high levels of obesity etc - that mean the UK would always have been one of the worst affected countries by this outbreak

It's not being made out as a silver bullet now. Lockdown in conjunction with contact tracing and isolation were always the most effective way to deal with it, but we were pissing about with "alternative strategies", Cheltenham, the CL match between Liverpool and Atletico etc.

I agree there are a lot of factors at play here, but we know what was working and Boris was instead talking of the financial opportunities being the only country staying open could bring.

[arista]

1265820837950570498


Yes and they are using Robots
to advise shoppers.

[arista]

Easy Jet to cut just 30%
of jobs.

They are flying from next week.

[Liam-]

1265910056102637568

I wonder if they’ll still follow the science now

[user104658]

1265910056102637568

I wonder if they’ll still follow the science now

Schools in Scotland aren't re-opening until at least mid August, and that's depending on how things look by then. Wee Nic being the sensible Queen of Scots :flutter:.

I really don't understand the logic of going back in June - it's not long until the summer break anyway? Why not just let that be the natural buffer? I sort of understand getting those that are transitioning from Primary School to High School in for some prep work but it could literally be just that one year group.

[bots]

Schools in Scotland aren't re-opening until at least mid August, and that's depending on how things look by then. Wee Nic being the sensible Queen of Scots :flutter:.

I really don't understand the logic of going back in June - it's not long until the summer break anyway? Why not just let that be the natural buffer? I sort of understand getting those that are transitioning from Primary School to High School in for some prep work but it could literally be just that one year group.

it's about changing the mind set of people more than anything else. Stop people hiding in their caves and force them out to forage

[Cherie]

1265910056102637568

I wonder if they’ll still follow the science now

Didn't this break last week, and its the independent SAGE group who are separate to SAGE group advising the government. Obviously the press have completely forgotton about schools opening since Doms story broke, shows how much they really care..... so they are bringing this back to the forefront again now

Post 165

I bring the news first :smug:

https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=366676&page=7&highlight=schools+go+back

[Cherie]

it's about changing the mind set of people more than anything else. Stop people hiding in their caves and force them out to forage

Some guy interviewed this morning said the government were amazed at the compliance to the lockdown as usually the GBP are very sceptical about the nanny state, so yeah I do think they need to force people back out who have literally burrowed under the duvet and plan to reimerge in 2022

Now or in September, schools have to adapt the way they teach, may as well dip their toes in to see what works and what doesn't

[user104658]

Some guy interviewed this morning said the government were amazed at the compliance to the lockdown as usually the GBP are very sceptical about the nanny state, so yeah I do think they need to force people back out who have literally burrowed under the duvet and plan to reimerge in 2022

I mean... Netflix and Amazon Prime exist so do we REALLY need poxy "going out of the house" any more?

[Cherie]

I mean... Netflix and Amazon Prime exist so do we REALLY need poxy "going out of the house" any more?

good point

[DouglasS]

1265910056102637568

I wonder if they’ll still follow the science now

I’m guessing you are of the opinion of letting the economy crash and letting the most poor and vulnerable in society suffer not just during this lockdown, but post lockdown when they will inevitably be taxed even more (as everyone will be) for the longer we remain in strict lockdown because of the economic burden

The government are having to balance the economy and the health and it’s not an easy job, we are actually one of the last countries to send our children back to school amongst other things, the longer we wait is also causing damage also. It’s not as simple as you and a few others state of just extending all of lockdown further, there are other really important matters that play a part. Like I said earlier other countries have been doing as we are doing now and we are able to watch their results, and so far the vast majority of countries have not had negative results/ a second spike

[Liam-]

Aye, all for the poor suffering me

[The Slim Reaper]

I’m guessing you are of the opinion of letting the economy crash and letting the most poor and vulnerable in society suffer not just during this lockdown, but post lockdown when they will inevitably be taxed even more (as everyone will be) for the longer we remain in strict lockdown because of the economic burden

The government are having to balance the economy and the health and it’s not an easy job, we are actually one of the last countries to send our children back to school amongst other things, the longer we wait is also causing damage also. It’s not as simple as you and a few others state of just extending all of lockdown further, there are other really important matters that play a part. Like I said earlier other countries have been doing as we are doing now and we are able to watch their results, and so far the vast majority of countries have not had negative results/ a second spike

The UK loses £70 billion every year through tax evasion, and is doing nothing to stop it. The bankers were given more in 2008 than the cost of covid.

If the poor are taxed more and have more of their services cut, then it's ideological not necessary.

[Cherie]

The UK loses £70 billion every year through tax evasion, and is doing nothing to stop it. The bankers were given more in 2008 than the cost of covid.

If the poor are taxed more and have more of their services cut, then it's ideological not necessary.

I like to make it worth my while :hee:

[DouglasS]

Aye, all for the poor suffering me

Such an insightful response and post, I thank you for it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The UK loses £70 billion every year through tax evasion, and is doing nothing to stop it. The bankers were given more in 2008 than the cost of covid.

If the poor are taxed more and have more of their services cut, then it's ideological not necessary.
Well I am afraid you are posting fake news again with a political angle

HMRC is doing very well catching tax fraud

Please read this report and maybe correct your post?


https://www.gov.uk/government/news/busted-hmrc-reveals-biggest-criminal-cases-of-year-2019

[bots]

The number of US servicemen and women killed in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan - over an aggregate 44 years of fighting - is almost exactly the same as the number of Americans who've now lost their lives to coronavirus in just three months of America's war against the hidden enemy

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-52775216

[Liam-]

1265775710586712067

[Zizu]

Yes but Johnson PM is saying they will not all open
on that first day.


Some Schools
have made massive preparations
so they are going ahead 1st of June.



I’m very concerned with the way things are progressing ... the government are seemingly allowing the headmasters to have the ultimate say on if and when the pupils can return .. that kinda shifts all the responsibility on to their shoulders..

Boris is just saying that everyone will be safe if they keep the two metres rule in mind ... something that can’t and won’t happen in schools the length of the country ..


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Schools have been open throughout. More open do you mean?

[The Slim Reaper]

Well I am afraid you are posting fake news again with a political angle

HMRC is doing very well catching tax fraud

Please read this report and maybe correct your post?


https://www.gov.uk/government/news/busted-hmrc-reveals-biggest-criminal-cases-of-year-2019

A government site saying the government has done well? Why opt out of the Euro-wide crackdown of tax havens, that folks like Jacob Rees-Mogg make a fortune out of?

[Zizu]

It's only part of the story, an earlier lockdown would not have been the silver bullet that it's now being made out as. We actually had fewer deaths in this country than Italy did when they locked down. My view is that there's a lot of inherent factors - population density, amount of international travel, number of large cities, presence of London, possibly high levels of obesity etc - that mean the UK would always have been one of the worst affected countries by this outbreak



So very true especially the population density aspect .

Just wait until tens of thousands flood into our country from Hong Kong as seems is a distinct possibility


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[Zizu]

Schools in Scotland aren't re-opening until at least mid August, and that's depending on how things look by then. Wee Nic being the sensible Queen of Scots :flutter:.



I really don't understand the logic of going back in June - it's not long until the summer break anyway? Why not just let that be the natural buffer? I sort of understand getting those that are transitioning from Primary School to High School in for some prep work but it could literally be just that one year group.



The trending phrase I’ve noticed is ‘guinea-kids’ :)


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[Zizu]

Schools have been open throughout. More open do you mean?



Yes to the nurseries, reception , years 1 and 6 in primary schools and year 10 & 12 in secondary ones


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[Cherie]

The trending phrase I’ve noticed is ‘guinea-kids’ :)


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No the key worker kids were guinea pigs, unless you think their toddlers miraculously socially distanced in nursery?

[user104658]

LD education has been kicked into the long grass which is... fun...

Because LD kids can't be expected to social distance, and because they often need specialist transport with a support worker and social distancing there is impossible, the current answer to when LD kids are going to be able to go back to school seems to be "lol... dunno".

Now... I personally don't mind my youngest being at home. She's missing the social contact but is coming on great, if anything her talking has improved more quickly in the last couple of months than it has in quite a while (though that could just be coincidence; it has always tended to improve in sudden bursts like this). She's also picked up swearing from her sister so that's fun :joker:.

But... the government currently pays something like £5000/year for primary education per child. It's actually significantly higher for learning disabilities, but we'll call it the flat rate. Do you think I can send them my bank deets and get that $$$?

On a more serious note, it is discrimination obviously but what can be said about that. All gone out the window "because of the covids"... we'll worry about petty little things like discrimination again one day in the distant future. Maybe.

[Zizu]

No the key worker kids were guinea pigs, unless you think their toddlers miraculously socially distanced in nursery?



It’s all kids who will be in school situations surely .. this is the critical phase of the guinea-kid experiment ..


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[Zizu]

I’m very concerned with the way things are progressing ... the government are seemingly allowing the headmasters to have the ultimate say on if and when the pupils can return .. that kinda shifts all the responsibility on to their shoulders..

Boris is just saying that everyone will be safe if they keep the two metres rule in mind ... something that can’t and won’t happen in schools the length of the country ..


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Update

Apparently guidelines have now been union backed for the places reopening and as long as schools stick to risk assessments their local authorities lay out, it is the local authorities that are liable not the headteacher or governing body - something that I know has made a lot of headteachers feel a bit better about reopening


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[Cherie]

It’s all kids who will be in school situations surely .. this is the critical phase of the guinea-kid experiment ..


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you are missing the point, the key workers kids have been in school for the past 10 weeks, do you think they have been distant from each other, the class sizes are going to be small around 6 or so in some schools so no different to what key workers kids experienced.

[The Slim Reaper]

They'd better well open, I've had puppies in the boot for 4 months. :smug:

[user104658]

They'd better well open, I've had puppies in the boot for 4 months. :smug:

My next door neighbours (large breed) dogs had 9 puppies right at the start of lockdown so now there are 11 dogs in their 3-bed that they can't get rid of... and I hate them, so this is something that I think of and smile several times per day. I think about what their living room must smell like and it makes me feel all warm inside.

[Niamh.]

My next door neighbours (large breed) dogs had 9 puppies right at the start of lockdown so now there are 11 dogs in their 3-bed that they can't get rid of... and I hate them, so this is something that I think of and smile several times per day. I think about what their living room must smell like and it makes me feel all warm inside.[emoji23]

[Denver]

My test came back Negative

[Denver]

My next door neighbours (large breed) dogs had 9 puppies right at the start of lockdown so now there are 11 dogs in their 3-bed that they can't get rid of... and I hate them, so this is something that I think of and smile several times per day. I think about what their living room must smell like and it makes me feel all warm inside.

They can send 2 of them to me

[user104658]

They can send 2 of them to me

To be fair the poor little pups do need to get away from their parents. They're not pleasant dogs. Two giant, aggressive, snarling bastards that are under-walked and barely trained. The poor littl'uns will start picking up their bad habits in no time if they don't get rehomed.

[Cherie]

My test came back Negative

:dance:

so what was the turn around time?

[The Slim Reaper]

To be fair the poor little pups do need to get away from their parents. They're not pleasant dogs. Two giant, aggressive, snarling bastards that are under-walked and barely trained. The poor littl'uns will start picking up their bad habits in no time if they don't get rehomed.

Yeah, but what are the dogs like?

[user104658]

Yeah, but what are the dogs like?

You jest, but we have been known to ponder whether or not Lady Neighbour is in fact biologically related to the dogs. And I strongly suspect that the parent dogs are siblings :umm2:.

The guy looks EXACTLY like Marv from Home Alone but with short hair/pattern baldness. Which is another thing that's given me years of mirth.

[Marsh.]

Why don't you get on? :think:

[user104658]

Why don't you get on? :think:

I was going to say because they're arseholes, but I don't get on with my neighbour over the back fence either, because he tried to tell me off for glass clippings blowing through his fence and I told him to go and **** himself. So it might be me? :think:

No I'm sure it's them! :fist:

And actually, the ones over the back don't like the dog ones either. It's a big ol' triangle of neighbourly hatred :joker:.

[Marsh.]

I was really confused and it took me way too long to realise you meant grass clippings. :skull:

[user104658]

I was really confused and it took me way too long to realise you meant grass clippings. :skull:He would have been more justified in being peeved if it was shards of glass I suppose.

[arista]

THE PM Johnson is LIVE


10 Downing St briefing

UK Death Total Today is 37,837

Meanwhile USA
at 100,651 total Deaths this hour

[arista]

A Video is playing.
Typical.

[MTVN]

Garden piss ups back on the cards :dance:

[arista]

Garden piss ups back on the cards :dance:


Yes but keep you distance...............

[AnnieK]

Starting to see some light now. Thank god.

[arista]

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[hijaxers]

A Video is playing.
Typical.

Sounds as though it won't work in the slightest when tests take over a week to come back ~ from hospital staff ! Just gonna be another cock up.