Coronavirus Outbreak

[Kizzy]

Does chlorine kill the coronavirus?
“The coronavirus doesn’t survive in chlorinated water,” infectious disease expert Amesh A. Adalja, MD, senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security in Maryland, tells Health.

But that doesn’t mean you can’t get COVID-19 while in a swimming pool. Coronavirus is a respiratory illness, which means it spreads when droplets from the mouth or nose fly through the air. So anywhere you’re interacting with others who are talking, coughing, or sneezing—even if you’re in the water—puts you at risk of inhaling a droplet from an infected person.

Dr. Adalja says the biggest risk of going to the pool lies out of the water. “There can be crowded conditions and common touch surfaces (like the deck and the locker room) that may provide an opportunity for the virus to transmit,” he says.

I'm aware of the crowded conditions being a risk, and the risk once out of the pool in the dry areas.
My point was covid can't survive in the water, if you were 2 metres apart, say lane swimming) it would be no different to walking past someone outside.

[Ammi]

Oldham feared to be on brink of 'catastrophic' coronavirus lockdown...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/oldham-feared-brink-catastrophic-coronavirus-160326770.html

[bots]

I'm aware of the crowded conditions being a risk, and the risk once out of the pool in the dry areas.
My point was covid can't survive in the water, if you were 2 metres apart, say lane swimming) it would be no different to walking past someone outside.

there is a difference because swimmers are breathing much more aggressively, so it will spread more

[Kizzy]

there is a difference because swimmers are breathing much more aggressively, so it will spread more

You could say that about joggers, are you going to ban jogging?

[arista]

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[arista]

Coronavirus: Labour calls for Evictions ban
to be extended

[The government introduced the ban in March
to help those financially hit by the coronavirus lockdown.
Homeless charity Shelter estimates 227,000
private renters have fallen into arrears since the pandemic
and could lose their homes when the
ban on evictions is lifted on 23 August.
The government said it would
offer "appropriate support" to renters.
New evictions in England and Wales had initially been
suspended until 25 June,
but the pause was extended to 23 August.]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53821911

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/08/no-more-parties-in-the-garden-and-working-at-home-remains-key-dutch-pm/

No More Parties in the Garden, Working at Home remains vital, even after september

no more gatherings with more than 6 people at home


https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/08/no-new-measures-in-amsterdam-yet-but-monitoring-to-be-stepped-up/

Amsterdam has last warning according to mayor Halsema, if things don't start to improve now, we need to be looking at going back to lockdown

[user104658]

You could say that about joggers, are you going to ban jogging?We should probably ban those running clubs you see everywhere.

Not because of Covid, just 'cos they're full of arseholes.

[Nicky91]

our PM Rutte was pretty much pissed at us last night


our health minister De Jonge: Corona doesn't stop until it has taken down all of us, so we need to work together to beat Corona

[user104658]

The issue of "the highstreet" is a complicated one. It was already dying anyway, companies knew that, most high-street retail workers are aware of that... But lockdown has massively accelerated things by a good 3 to 5 years and its happening all at once rather than gradually store by store.

What makes it complicated is that, because it was just an acceleration of something that was already happening and not a "lockdown related freak occurrence", it's going to be very hard to reverse the trend. People were already abandoning the high street. If Covid does eventually disappear, even that won't be enough to tempt back half of the lost business.

Ita something I'm conflicted about really. I mean I get that the jobs situation is awful, and I also have my reservations about retail money all flowing in the same directions (Amazon et al.) but in the other hand, the consumer choice, better prices, and convenience of online shopping just realistically make the high street experience obsolete. I can't even remember the last time I made a major (let's say £200+) purchase in a physical store. Probably the PS3 in like 2008.

[bots]

the world has changed forever. The high street needs to be replaced by affordable housing and leisure spaces. This has been patently obvious for some time but high street chains have been hanging on for dear life. I know several online businesses (not retail) that have advanced their business by 3-5 years ahead of expectation, this is largely due to people working from home, and while it may reverse a bit it wont return to how it was before. Airlines, the car industry, transport are all going to have to re-adjust to reflect the new reality. For example train ticket prices are due to rise in January ... that's just not going to realistically happen because they just don't have the numbers travelling.

From a brexit perspective, this event couldn't have come at a better time because it's not just us that are looking for a new norm, it's the whole world. Hold on to your hats ......

[Nicky91]

the world has changed forever. The high street needs to be replaced by affordable housing and leisure spaces. This has been patently obvious for some time but high street chains have been hanging on for dear life. I know several online businesses (not retail) that have advanced their business by 3-5 years ahead of expectation, this is largely due to people working from home, and while it may reverse a bit it wont return to how it was before. Airlines, the car industry, transport are all going to have to re-adjust to reflect the new reality. For example train ticket prices are due to rise in January ... that's just not going to realistically happen because they just don't have the numbers travelling.

From a brexit perspective, this event couldn't have come at a better time because it's not just us that are looking for a new norm, it's the whole world. Hold on to your hats ......

yup and if you cannot adapt to this new world, bad luck then

[joeysteele]

You could say that about joggers, are you going to ban jogging?

Actually Kizzy joggers annoy me.

A few times I've been heading to a store, I've seen elderly people now walking in the street, with their masks on.

Then joggers, no masks obviously, come charging along, running past those elderly walking.
Puffing and panting.

No respect for distance either, just running past people walking.

So I'd maybe suggest joggers run where only they can be in open spaces and not in built up public places.

There was a group of them the other morning, all running together too.

Fine out in the country, not where others, or those more vulnerable may be however.

[arista]

[Pizza Express to close 73 outlets hitting 1,100 jobs

The chain, which at the moment has 454 UK outlets,
said it had cut a deal to reduce rent costs.
It said although most of its restaurants have
been profitable over the past three years,
earnings had been declining.
Pizza Express also confirmed it had hired
advisers from Lazard to lead a sale process for the business.
It is currently majority owned by
Chinese firm Hony Capital.]


Has a long list of the 73 to sadly close
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53830064

[arista]

Blair Live on SkyNewsHD
wants more mass testing.

[Ammi]

A-level results row: Matt Hancock 'recognises' concerns over medical student places...


The government is warned a "deeply worrying" number of those affected come from areas under-served by doctors.

The health secretary has pledged to do "everything we can" to ensure A-level medical students unfairly downgraded can still get a place at university.

Matt Hancock told Sky News "I absolutely recognise" the concerns raised by the Royal College of GPs that pupils whose marks were lower than their teachers' predictions are missing out on their top choice for further study.

It is just one of the many practical problems thrown up by the exams U-turn earlier this week.

Professor Martin Marshall, chair of the Royal College of GPs, claimed a "large number of potential medical students" have missed out on their university place due to the decision that came five days after results were released last Thursday.

He said it was "deeply worrying" that students affected may come from areas which are under-doctored.



The number of places are "strictly limited" due to a government cap on funding, Prof Marshall added.


At least 20% more places to study medicine are needed just to ensure there are enough GPs in the future, he continued.

...rest of the article...

https://news.sky.com/story/a-level-results-row-matt-hancock-recognises-concerns-over-medical-student-places-12052155

[Niamh.]

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[Beso]

We shall test them at the airports, we shall test them in the car parks...we should test them on the beaches.

[Beso]

My nephew has corona, he went on holiday last week and 1 person tested positive since.

He was contacted via track and trace and asked to go for a test. He did. It came back positive, he has to isolate for ten days and can go back to work on the 11th day if he has shown no fever.

[arista]

Scotland has extended
the Aberdeen Lock down.

The Local Council
are Angry.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-53833513

Ref: Ch4HDnews


Also
Coronavirus: Dundee school closed after six adults test positive


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-53840123

[Beso]

https://i.imgur.com/dWtb53a.jpg?1

A Chinese bloke is it not that's got it in that photo...just saying..:shrug::shrug:

[MTVN]

My nephew has corona, he went on holiday last week and 1 person tested positive since.

He was contacted via track and trace and asked to go for a test. He did. It came back positive, he has to isolate for ten days and can go back to work on the 11th day if he has shown no fever.

The system works

[MTVN]

Good to see a low case number today and hospital admissions still declining, all looking positive still here

[joeysteele]

Scotland has extended
the Aberdeen Lock down.

The Local Council
are Angry.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-53833513

Ref: Ch4HDnews


Also
Coronavirus: Dundee school closed after six adults test positive


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-53840123

The right thing in my view.
Better safe than sorry.

[Beso]

The system works

It will if he can control his urges.

[arista]

Today 16 deaths

Total UK deaths Covid-19: 41,397

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

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[Ammi]

Firm linked to Gove and Cummings hired to work with Ofqual on A-levels...


A company run by long–term associates of Michael Gove and Dominic Cummings has been working behind the scenes with the exams agency Ofqual on its disastrous strategy for determining A-level results, the Guardian can reveal.

Public First, a policy and research firm owned by James Frayne and Rachel Wolf, who both formerly worked for Gove, has been involved on the project with Ofqual since June after being granted a contract that was not put out to competitive tender.

Details of the contract have not been made public and Ofqual declined to say how much public money had been spent hiring Public First.

The firm is understood to have been initially contracted to assist Ofqual with communicating its A-level and GSCE results plan to help secure public confidence in the strategy.

A spokesperson for Ofqual said it initially contracted Public First without a tender to work on “insight on public opinion for this year’s exam arrangements”. The spokesperson added: “Public First is currently assisting Ofqual’s small communications team with an unprecedented amount of media interest in a complex policy area.”

Wolf, a former adviser to Gove when he was shadow education secretary, is one of several staff from Public First who are understood to have worked with Ofqual on the approach to the awarding of A-level, BTec and GCSE grades for students, who were unable to take their exams due to the Covid-19 school closures.

A Cabinet Office spokesperson told the Guardian that Gove had not been involved in Ofqual’s appointment of Public First. They said: “The Cabinet Office had no involvement in the contract and did not discuss it with Ofqual.”

The algorithm used by Ofqual downgraded 40% of the A-level grades assessed by teachers under the process set after the exams were cancelled, leading to a storm of protest from students, parents, school leaders and teachers, that culminated in a complete government U-turn on Monday and the system being scrapped.

...full article...

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/firm-linke...050012669.html

[Strictly Jake]

Today 16 deaths

Total UK deaths Covid-19: 41,397

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Is anyone even still paying attention to this?

[Crimson Dynamo]

There isnt a day goes by where i hear that rates are down, deaths are the lowest and more things are opening and then i read that a deadly 2nd wave is here and the R rate is up and Melchester is about to be locked down

mess

[arista]

Today 6 deaths


UK Total Deaths Covid-19 :41,403

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bots]

because we have more testing now, and mass testing in hotspots, it's much more under control. I think we have to consider it the same way we handle deaths from other diseases as it will be with us until we get a vaccine/better treatment

[arista]

Coronavirus: Croatia, Austria, Trinidad and Tobago placed on UK's quarantine list

Portugal cleared for travel

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-croatia-placed-on-uks-quarantine-list-portugal-now-in-the-clear-12053230

[arista]

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[arista]

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[Ammi]

...Jess helping to keep Portugal in the all clear and out of quarantine...:lovedup:...

[bots]

The R number - the rate of reproduction - of coronavirus in the UK has risen to between 0.9-1.1, according to the Government Office for Science and the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (Sage).

The figures suggest there is a risk that the overall coronavirus epidemic in the UK is growing, government scientists say.

The latest growth rate for the whole of the UK is between minus 3% to plus 1%, a slight change from between minus 4% to minus 1% last week.

The growth rate of Covid-19 transmission reflects how quickly the number of infections is changing day by day.

[Kizzy]

But half price foooooodddd....

[arista]

[Oldham, Pendle and Blackburn will face extra restrictions
to stem the spread of Covid-19, the government has said.


From midnight on Saturday, residents in these areas
will not be allowed to socialise with anyone
from outside their household.
Workplaces, childcare facilities and businesses,
including restaurants and pubs, will remain open.
Since July, the government has been
introducing extra restrictions after a spike in cases.
Elsewhere, Birmingham has been added
to the government's watch list, while authorities
will intervene in Northampton.]

Current tighter rules in Wigan, Darwen and Rossendale are to be dropped.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-53859865

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-households-banned-from-meeting-in-oldham-pendle-and-blackburn-as-birmingham-added-to-watch-list-12053805

[arista]

Today 2 deaths

Total UK Death Covid-19 : 41,405

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Cherie]

I know someone who got on a coach with 29 family members last weekend and travelled to Wolverhampton to celebrate the birth of her sister in laws’ baby at their home, same person is moaning about going back to work...people are picking and choosing when the guidance is important to them and when it isn’t :idc:

[arista]

Coronavirus: Eviction ban to be extended by four weeks

[Ministers have extended the ban on landlords
evicting tenants in England and Wales until 20 September,
following fears thousands could lose their homes.
In most cases, until the end of March,
renters will also get six months' notice
if their landlord plans to evict them.

Courts had been due to resume cases on Monday after
a five-month pause.
Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said the latest
announcement just gave "renters a few more
weeks to pack their bags".]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53851945

[arista]

[Coronavirus: Factory (Northampton)
that makes sandwiches for M&S forced to close
after staff outbreak]

[A factory in Northampton that makes sandwiches
for M&S has been forced to close after a coronavirus
outbreak among staff, bosses have said.
The Greencore factory, which employs
around 2,100 people, said it hopes to be
back to "substantial" production levels 14 days from Friday.]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-factory-that-makes-sandwiches-for-m-s-closes-after-staff-outbreak-12053821

[arista]

1,003 New cases in the UK, Today

Ref: Ch4HDNews

[joeysteele]

Coronavirus: Eviction ban to be extended by four weeks

[Ministers have extended the ban on landlords
evicting tenants in England and Wales until 20 September,
following fears thousands could lose their homes.
In most cases, until the end of March,
renters will also get six months' notice
if their landlord plans to evict them.

Courts had been due to resume cases on Monday after
a five-month pause.
Labour leader Sir Keir Starmer said the latest
announcement just gave "renters a few more
weeks to pack their bags".]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53851945

I agree with Starmer here.

This is a totally inadequate extension.
Not really going to help.

I feared this lot would revert back to harder attitudes.
This has me thinking that's now started up again.

[arista]

[Coronavirus forces STA Travel out of business
The company, which grew out of a student travel business
and specialised in trips for young people,
including gap years and volunteer projects,
has ceased trading.
STA Travel has more than 50 shops in the UK.
The firm said customers with bookings
would "receive further communication in the coming days".]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-53868447

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Beso]

Any new corona symptoms?

[smudgie]

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Hmmmm.some pensioners will be getting more.
The new pensioners get just over £9000 a year.

[lime]

This is Wuhan last Saturday.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-53816511

What is going on here.

It makes me so cross as we,The liily whites in Kildare can't leave our county.But life in Wuhan carries on:shrug::shrug:

[lime]

Any new corona symptoms?

Yes

I have a pain in my whole

[arista]

[Coronavirus will be with us forever, Sage scientist warns

Mark Walport said people would need to be
vaccinated at regular intervals.
His comments come after the head of the
World Health Organization (WHO) said he hoped
the pandemic would be over within two years,
as the Spanish flu had taken two years to overcome.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53875189?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/coronavirus&link_location=live-reporting-story

[bots]

[Coronavirus will be with us forever, Sage scientist warns

Mark Walport said people would need to be
vaccinated at regular intervals.
His comments come after the head of the
World Health Organization (WHO) said he hoped
the pandemic would be over within two years,
as the Spanish flu had taken two years to overcome.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53875189?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/coronavirus&link_location=live-reporting-story

yeah, i thought it was irresponsible of the WHO to say it would be gone within 2 years

[user104658]

[Coronavirus will be with us forever, Sage scientist warns

Mark Walport said people would need to be
vaccinated at regular intervals.
His comments come after the head of the
World Health Organization (WHO) said he hoped
the pandemic would be over within two years,
as the Spanish flu had taken two years to overcome.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53875189?intlink_from_url=https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/coronavirus&link_location=live-reporting-storyI mean... Both can be true... Spanish Flu was just swine flu. It's still with us 100 years later, but it's not an active pandemic... It's always going around, though.

[arista]

Today 18 Deaths

UK Total Covid-19 Deaths: 41,423

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

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Scotland's 57% spike in new coronavirus cases drives
the UK to its highest Saturday
total for eight weeks - with 1,288 infections

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8654045/Scotland-sees-highest-rise-Covid-infections-three-months-123-new-cases.html

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[arista]

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[bots]

Organisers of illegal gatherings of more than 30 people could face fines of up to £10,000 under new powers given to police in England from Friday.

People who attend gatherings could be fined £100, doubling on each offence up to £3,200. This level of fine will also apply to those who those who flout the rules around face coverings where they are mandatory - such as on public transport or in shops and supermarkets.

It comes after police in the city of Birmingham said they attended more than 70 unlicensed street and house parties on Saturday night, while police in Huddersfield broke up an illegal rave involving about 300 people.

Meanwhile in London, the Metropolitan Police says it has responded to more than 1,000 unlicensed events since the end of June.

[user104658]

BoJo is wearing that baby FAR too low. If you can't bend your neck and kiss their head they've slipped down, Boris. Tighten those straps :nono:.

[bots]

The local headlines are using words like “alarm” and talking about a “bigger, deadlier wave” of Covid-19 in South Korea.

Why? The country has recorded its highest number of daily cases since early March, fuelled by an outbreak at a right-wing church in Seoul called Sarang Jeil that has led to more than 800 infections alone.

South Korea has been here before. An outbreak in a church in February swept through the city of Daegu infecting, at its height, a thousand people a day.

But the difference this time is that the virus has spread through every province in the country except the island of Jeju, and health officials are warning this wave could prove far more devastating.

The problem at the centre of this latest Covid-19 crisis is political. Conservative churchgoers have always despised the current liberal President Moon Jae-in and accuse him of being a communist.

Sarang Jeil’s followers believe that the virus was planted in their church with the aim of closing down all opposition to the Moon government. Some have even accused North Korea of deliberately infecting them.

Health officials are desperately trying to persuade them that this is not a conspiracy and they simply need worshippers to be tested. But on Friday the police had to intervene to get a full list of church members for contact tracing purposes.

Meanwhile the entire country is facing new social distancing measures and public anger towards Sarang Jeil is growing.

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The same basic pattern is repeating across the world

[arista]

Today 6 Died.

UK Total Covid-19 Deaths: 41,429


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Today in the UK
1,041 New Cases

4 days in a row of over 1k numbers.

Ref: Ch4HDnews.

[arista]

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[Zizu]

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It’s ok saying that the pupils will be safe in school but what about all the thousands of staff !?!?

Do they not matter ?


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[arista]

It’s ok saying that the pupils will be safe in school but what about all the thousands of staff !?!?

Do they not matter ?


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No Staff appear do not matter, as much.


Scotland and Northern Ireland
are back at School - Today

[Crimson Dynamo]

our schools have been back for the last 2 weeks

[joeysteele]

It’s ok saying that the pupils will be safe in school but what about all the thousands of staff !?!?

Do they not matter ?


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Short answer is no, in my view they don't.

I'm frankly not sure anyone does to this lot now very sadly.

[arista]

our schools have been back for the last 2 weeks


Yes but Scotland has Problems.

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[Zizu]

Yes but Scotland has Problems.



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That’s the story all over the damn place. .. a couple of kids show positive whilst many more staff are getting it and they’re the ones at risk especially the older ones like ME !!


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[arista]

That’s the story all over the damn place. .. a couple of kids show positive whilst many more staff are getting it and they’re the ones at risk especially the older ones like ME !!


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Yes stay safe Zizu
I hear they do not want Teachers to have masks on.


Also they are giving schools home test kits?

[Ammi]

Coronavirus: Secondary school pupils may have to wear face coverings in Scotland...


Secondary school pupils in Scotland may have to wear face coverings in corridors and communal areas, Nicola Sturgeon has said.

The first minister said Scotland's Education Secretary John Swinney was in the final stages of consulting with teachers and local authorities over the possible new guidance.

She said a new rule "would go beyond" World Health Organisation (WHO) guidance after the body advised over the weekend that children aged 12 and above should wear face coverings.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-secondary-school-pupils-may-have-to-wear-face-coverings-in-scotland-12055657

[bots]

Hong Kong University scientists have reported the case of an apparently young, healthy patient being re-infected with Covid-19, four-and-a-half months after the first infection.

Using genome sequencing, they discovered that the second bout or virus was “clearly different” from the first infection rather than just a continuation or re-emergence of the original one.

Scientists know that people infected by coronavirus develop an immune response as their bodies fight off the virus, and this helps to protect them against it returning. But it is not clear how strong this protection is or how long it lasts.

If people can catch the virus more than once, then a vaccine may be required to protect many more people - although those who are most seriously ill have a greater immune response than those with mild symptoms.

Other coronaviruses, such as the common cold, do re-infect people so it’s not surprising that Sars-CoV-2 – the virus which causes Covid-19 – could do the same.

But the World Health Organization says it’s important not to jump to any conclusions based on the experience of one patient out of 23 million around the world.

The full research paper has not yet been published so some aspects of this case are not yet clear.

It appears that when this person was infected for the second time they had no symptoms – and the infection was picked up by airport screening tests, suggesting the patient wasn’t unwell. More population-based studies are needed before any firm conclusions on re-infection can be made.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Usain BOlt has it now

[Zizu]

Usain BOlt has it now



I’m sure he’ll have a speedy recovery..


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[Cherie]

I’m sure he’ll have a speedy recovery..


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are you here all week Zizu :laugh:

[Ammi]

Three jailed on Isle of Man for breaking Covid quarantine rules...

Three people have been jailed this week for failing to quarantine after returning to the Isle of Man from the UK.

Under the island’s strict Covid-19 rules, returning travellers must self-isolate at home for 14 days.

The Isle of Man has recorded no new cases of coronavirus since 20 May, leading the government to dispense with most of its lockdown restrictions in mid-June, before the UK.

But to stop any new cases and defend what it calls its “Manx bubble”, the local authorities are tough on anyone who fails to comply with quarantine measures.

On Monday 64-year-old Paul Dowd received a six-week jail sentence after going to the pub twice when he should have been in quarantine.

And on Tuesday a woman from Northern Ireland was jailed for a month after breaking quarantine rules. Fraser Nolan had been given special permission to visit to take care of her late mother’s estate but was caught by police after travelling by bus to a locksmith.

In the latest case to reach court, Alistair McCormick from Douglas was jailed for four weeks on Saturday after visiting a bank in the town on 21 August when he should have been isolating at home.

The court heard McCormick had spent about 20 minutes in the bank after a cash machine retained his bank card, according to the BBC. He was reported to police after he told a member of staff in the branch he had returned to the island about 10 days ago, having spent three-and-a-half weeks in the UK.

On the same day, he visited an electronics store in Braddan, telling staff his mobile phone had recently been stolen while he was visiting Edinburgh, the hearing at Douglas courthouse was told.

When arrested by police, the company director accepted he had been “out and about” when he should have been self-isolating, but offered no excuse for his actions.

The island’s border reopened to residents on 20 July and government figures show more than 2,500 people returned during the following month. Anyone who breaches the self-isolation rules could face a fine of up to £10,000 or three months in prison.

Sentencing McCormick, the deputy high bailiff, Christopher Arrowsmith, said he had ignored rules put in place to protect people and imprisonment was the only appropriate penalty.


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/three-jailed-isle-man-breaking-160411919.html

[arista]

Today 4 dead.

UK Total Covid-19 Deaths :41,433

Health chiefs revealed another 853 patients have
been diagnosed of Covid-19 today

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[The Slim Reaper]

are you here all week Zizu :laugh:

I flippin' hope not. :smug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I’m sure he’ll have a speedy recovery..


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:nono:

Lets not play the Race card

[Zizu]

:nono:



Lets not play the Race card



Witty :)


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[Zizu]

I flippin' hope not. :smug:



Oye !


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[arista]

Scotland is asking Secondary Pupils to have masks on
and their Teachers.

England is not.

[arista]

1297949300660604929

[Beso]

The old bloke ain't me b4 anyone starts.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"i am the blurred vagina"

inb4 anyone posts that

[bots]

"i am the blurred vagina"


is that Gaga's latest release?

[Beso]

is that Gaga's latest release?

:joker:

[Ammi]

Hong Kong researchers report first documented coronavirus re-infection...


HONG KONG (Reuters) - A Hong Kong man who recovered from COVID-19 was infected again four-and-a-half months later in the first documented instance of human re-infection, researchers at the University of Hong Kong said on Monday.

The findings indicate the disease, which has killed more than 800,000 people worldwide, may continue to spread amongst the global population despite herd immunity, they said.

The 33-year-old male was cleared of COVID-19 and discharged from a hospital in April, but tested positive again after returning from Spain via Britain on Aug. 15.

The patient had appeared to be previously healthy, researchers said in the paper, which was accepted by the international medical journal Clinical Infectious Diseases.

He was found to have contracted a different coronavirus strain from the one he had previously contracted and remained asymptomatic for the second infection.


...full article...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/hong-kong-researchers-report-first-143512916.html

[user104658]

Hong Kong researchers report first documented coronavirus re-infection...


HONG KONG (Reuters) - A Hong Kong man who recovered from COVID-19 was infected again four-and-a-half months later in the first documented instance of human re-infection, researchers at the University of Hong Kong said on Monday.

The findings indicate the disease, which has killed more than 800,000 people worldwide, may continue to spread amongst the global population despite herd immunity, they said.

The 33-year-old male was cleared of COVID-19 and discharged from a hospital in April, but tested positive again after returning from Spain via Britain on Aug. 15.

The patient had appeared to be previously healthy, researchers said in the paper, which was accepted by the international medical journal Clinical Infectious Diseases.

He was found to have contracted a different coronavirus strain from the one he had previously contracted and remained asymptomatic for the second infection.


...full article...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/hong-kong-researchers-report-first-143512916.html

BIB is the important part; it has already been hypothesised by the scientific community that antibody immunity may be temporary, but T-cell immunity may be long lasting (several decades). T-cell immunity means that you can catch the virus again and carry it, but symptoms are likely to be very mild or non-existant.

[Zizu]

BIB is the important part; it has already been hypothesised by the scientific community that antibody immunity may be temporary, but T-cell immunity may be long lasting (several decades). T-cell immunity means that you can catch the virus again and carry it, but symptoms are likely to be very mild or non-existant.



It’s good that the second time you’ll have mild or no symptoms but if you still pass it on then it’s just as dangerous


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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgKoAxbXkAA0NW9?format=jpg&name=900x900

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgNzqPMX0AU7m_q?format=jpg&name=medium

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/B7C9/production/_114094074_metro-p1-aug-25.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/90B9/production/_114094073_i-newspaper_page-1.jpg

[arista]

LBC just reported
Birmingham Zone
will tomorrow, go into special measures
due to High Covid-19 cases.

[Liam-]

1298134012544847872

I’d like to say I’m surprised, but I’m anything but, the cruelty knows no bounds

[joeysteele]

This doesn't shock or surprise me.

This is the example of deceit from this lot.
Vile and heartless from the core not just to the core.

[Cherie]

1298134012544847872

I’d like to say I’m surprised, but I’m anything but, the cruelty knows no bounds

horrific

[user104658]

It’s good that the second time you’ll have mild or no symptoms but if you still pass it on then it’s just as dangerous


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProTrue but if there really is no hope of a lasting vaccine then it becoming less dangerous to humans over time (which is what would happen in 2 or 3 generations) because of resistance is good news. Not necessarily for people right now, but for the human race. If there's no hope of a vaccine, no antibody herd immunity and no T-cell immunity then it would be repeated cycles forever, which would essentially mean that people living much beyond 70 / living at all with long term health conditions just wouldn't happen any more.

[Kizzy]

1298134012544847872

I’d like to say I’m surprised, but I’m anything but, the cruelty knows no bounds

Nothing they do shocks me anymore.

[Oliver_W]

1298134012544847872

I’d like to say I’m surprised, but I’m anything but, the cruelty knows no bounds

horrific

Nothing they do shocks me anymore.

It's awful and Hancock should have resigned/been fired long ago, but this particular case feels more like oversight than anything else - aren't you only allowed benefits if you have less than like £10k in savings? Hopefully a loophole will be put in place to cover this.

[The Slim Reaper]

It's awful and Hancock should have resigned/been fired long ago, but this particular case feels more like oversight than anything else - aren't you only allowed benefits if you have less than like £10k in savings? Hopefully a loophole will be put in place to cover this.

Read it. The government had a choice whether this would infringe on benefits or not, and they made sure it did.

[Zizu]

True but if there really is no hope of a lasting vaccine then it becoming less dangerous to humans over time (which is what would happen in 2 or 3 generations) because of resistance is good news. Not necessarily for people right now, but for the human race. If there's no hope of a vaccine, no antibody herd immunity and no T-cell immunity then it would be repeated cycles forever, which would essentially mean that people living much beyond 70 / living at all with long term health conditions just wouldn't happen any more.



Krap ... I’ve only got around 7 years left ... and I still haven’t played for Brazil yet ..


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[James]

It would be very easy for doctors to put a cause of death on a medical certificate as coronavirus rather than, say, pneumonia, if they knew that it would get the family compensation.

The government has to be careful of that. Or is it only awarded after a positive test for Covid?

[The Slim Reaper]

It would be very easy for doctors to put a cause of death on a medical certificate as coronavirus rather than, say, pneumonia, if they knew that it would get the family compensation.

The government has to be careful of that. Or is it only awarded after a positive test for Covid?

Sorry James, but what? Are you suggesting the government absolutely have to make sure that welfare recipients are shafted, in case doctors are gaming the system for absolutely no reason?

[James]

Sorry James, but what? Are you suggesting the government absolutely have to make sure that welfare recipients are shafted, in case doctors are gaming the system for absolutely no reason?No, it's unrelated to the story above. I just commenting on the scheme itself.

[arista]

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[The Slim Reaper]

:joker:

Far left, anti-school, mum campaigners

Welcome comrades, for over a century we have worked tirelessly to implement the philosophies of Marx, Trotsky, and Lenin. Mission accomplished. :smug:

[The Slim Reaper]

Crony capitalism


1298247314256125953

[arista]

1,184
today's new cases of Covid-19.


SkyNewsHD


Today 16 dead.

UK Total Covid-19 Deaths :41,499

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

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[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/98BD/production/_114110193_telegraph.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/1831D/production/_114110199_guardian.jpg

[Kizzy]

Crony capitalism


1298247314256125953

Look at the ports business and who got those multi million pound contracts, pigs in the trough, funnelling money from the public purse.
There is no scrutiny. . It's accepted that they are literally giving these sums to anyone with no regulation or accountibiliity.

[Zizu]

Look at the ports business and who got those multi million pound contracts, pigs in the trough, funnelling money from the public purse.

There is no scrutiny. . It's accepted that they are literally giving these sums to anyone with no regulation or accountibiliity.



I can hear the linings of pockets ...

Must be great having a powerful position and being ‘rewarded’ for services rendered ;)


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[Ammi]

Lasting immunity doubt as two more cases of Covid reinfection confirmed...


Two European patients are confirmed to have been re-infected with the coronavirus, raising questions over how long immunity to the virus lasts.

The cases, in Belgium and the Netherlands, come a day after researchers in Hong Kong revealed that a 33-year-old man was re-infected with a different strain of the virus four and a half months after being declared recovered - the first such re-infection to be determined through genetic sequencing.

The cases have fuelled fears about the effectiveness of potential vaccines against the virus, as it would appear that immunity only lasts a short period of time. However, experts have warned against reading too much into isolated cases - in a pandemic that has infected more than 23 million people.


...full article...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/experts-reveal-two-more-patients-160408838.html

[Ammi]

Face masks in schools: Boris Johnson performs U-turn on advice...



https://news.sky.com/story/face-masks-in-schools-boris-johnson-performs-u-turn-on-advice-12056671

[bots]

Lasting immunity doubt as two more cases of Covid reinfection confirmed...


Two European patients are confirmed to have been re-infected with the coronavirus, raising questions over how long immunity to the virus lasts.

The cases, in Belgium and the Netherlands, come a day after researchers in Hong Kong revealed that a 33-year-old man was re-infected with a different strain of the virus four and a half months after being declared recovered - the first such re-infection to be determined through genetic sequencing.

The cases have fuelled fears about the effectiveness of potential vaccines against the virus, as it would appear that immunity only lasts a short period of time. However, experts have warned against reading too much into isolated cases - in a pandemic that has infected more than 23 million people.


...full article...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/experts-reveal-two-more-patients-160408838.html

it basically means that we will need vaccinations in the same way that we need them for flu now, betting on the most common strain

[Zizu]

it basically means that we will need vaccinations in the same way that we need them for flu now, betting on the most common strain



.... but every 3 months ??


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[Strictly Jake]

How many u turns have the government done this year?! Pretty much every decision?

Either schools are safe or they or not. If we are being told schools are safe them why do they need face masks?

[Ammi]

....I don’t know if it would be every 3 months or how frequently etc...but it really is going to be a step by step process, I think....every 3 months would be an amazing starting point, for instance, if it gave a much needed immune time...then science could progress to longer lasting immunities in time...?...I mean, it’s just so new and so devastating that we can’t expect to ‘control it’ long term as quickly as we would like to...this is our world now and science is doing a great job, I think...with the steps it’s taking...

[Zizu]

How many u turns have the government done this year?! Pretty much every decision?

Either schools are safe or they or not. If we are being told schools are safe them why do they need face masks?



It’s a huge experiment ... that’s why we’re hearing the phrase ‘guinea kids‘ banded around .


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[Strictly Jake]

Wearing a face covering or face mask in schools or other education settings is not recommended. Face coverings may be beneficial for short periods indoors where there is a risk of close social contact with people you do not usually meet and where social distancing and other measures cannot be maintained, for example on public transport or in some shops. This does not apply to schools or other education settings. Schools and other education or childcare settings should therefore not require staff, children and learners to wear face coverings. Changing habits, cleaning and hygiene are effective measures in controlling the spread of the virus. Face coverings (or any form of medical mask unless instructed to be used for specific clinical reasons) should not be worn in any circumstance by those who may not be able to handle them as directed (for example, young children, or those with special educational needs or disabilities) as it may inadvertently increase the risk of transmission

Literally what the gov.uk website says at the moment as it hasnt been updated

Shows how silly this U turn is and how they have absolutely no clue about anything

[bots]

Literally what the gov.uk website says at the moment as it hasnt been updated

Shows how silly this U turn is and how they have absolutely no clue about anything

they update their advice after listening to what the experts are telling them .... it would be much worse if they stuck to what the original advice was. Changing course to save lives shouldn't under any circumstances be described as a u turn

[Strictly Jake]

they update their advice after listening to what the experts are telling them .... it would be much worse if they stuck to what the original advice was. Changing course to save lives shouldn't under any circumstances be described as a u turn

And yet u turn is what the news is calling it

If they are listening to the experts, why did the experts tell them masks arent recommended in schools or places of education. That students and staff wouldnt be required to wear them. And that masks could increase the risk of transmission in the first place and why have these 'experts' changed their mind

Noone is an expert! How can they be called an expert. Yes they may have some degree that says they are or done some research about it. But the world hasnt gone through this or lived through this pandemic before. So how can they be called an expert???

They are all just making it up as it goes along

We are all screwed and everyone may aswell just get on with their lives as everything put in place seems to get reversed anyways

[Zizu]

they update their advice after listening to what the experts are telling them .... it would be much worse if they stuck to what the original advice was. Changing course to save lives shouldn't under any circumstances be described as a u turn



It just seems like they’re just following what Scotland or Wales do just a day or so later


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[user104658]

It just seems like they’re just following what Scotland or Wales do just a day or so later


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We're used to it, England has been using Scotland as a policies-guineapig forever.

[joeysteele]

It just seems like they’re just following what Scotland or Wales do just a day or so later


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That's more like it, exactly.

[Zizu]

We're used to it, England has been using Scotland as a policies-guineapig forever.



Hense the term ‘guinea-kids’



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[Vanessa]

Today I'm going to the cinema for the first time since they closed.
I'm so excited! Going to wear my mask, the medical ones I find they're quite comfortable.

[Cherie]

Today I'm going to the cinema for the first time since they closed.
I'm so excited! Going to wear my mask, the medical ones I find they're quite comfortable.

Enjoy Vanessa, are you going to see Tenet?

[arista]

Enjoy Vanessa, are you going to see Tenet?


2 and half hours long.

[arista]

[Coronavirus: Theatre and pub reopening
in Northern Ireland delayed
Indoor pubs that do not serve food have also been
told they cannot reopen next week either.
They had initially been given a date of 10 August to reopen,
but this was pushed back to 1 September at
the earliest several weeks ago.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-53923106

[Cherie]

2 and half hours long.

not bad by today's standards of overly long movies

[Vanessa]

Enjoy Vanessa, are you going to see Tenet?

Yes. Omg, it was brilliant. Really enjoyed it!

[michael21]

To to get your mask on in shops only

[arista]

Today 16 Dead
(2 from Scotland)

Total UK Covid-19 Deaths 41,464

New Covid-19 cases today : 1,048


Ch4HDnews.

[arista]

From Ch4HDnews

Cocky Conservative MP Sir Desmond Swayne
said he does not like kids going to school looking
like Darth Vader?

Then the General Secretary, National Teachers Union Kevin Courtney
said he wants kids back in school.
Having a mask on is fine.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/08/26/13/32407622-0-image-a-11_1598443897865.jpg
[He was at Castle Rock school in Coalville,
an academy school where pupils started back today
for 'induction and familiarisation' ahead of lessons starting next week]

[Crimson Dynamo]

Today 16 Dead
(2 from Scotland)

Total UK Covid-19 Deaths 41,464

New Covid-19 cases today : 1,048


Ch4HDnews.

Yes but are any of these cases actually I'll?

We get numbers

But are they ill??

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/08/26/17/32419418-8666243-image-a-17_1598460996419.jpg
[He thanked pupils for their efforts to limit
the spread of coronavirus,
saying: 'We have the number of deaths way down,
we have the number of hospital admissions way,
way down and it's thanks to you and
your sacrifice that we have protected
the NHS and saved literally tens of thousands,
if not hundreds of thousands, of lives']

[arista]

Yes but are any of these cases actually I'll?

We get numbers

But are they ill??

Its a large number of new cases
some could be sent home

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its a large number of new cases
some could be sent home

I'd imagine most have no symptoms

[user104658]

I'd imagine most have no symptoms

Well "most" is unlikely because the majority of tests are still on people who think they might have it (and thus, are displaying some symptoms). But yes, a lot of them will be mild symptoms - a basic cough or a random fever that breaks in 48 hours. But there will be a lot more asymptomatic people out there who have no symptoms at all and aren't included in any figures.

[Kizzy]

That's a bit of a Jump, 4 on the 24th and 16 yesterday?

[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[arista]

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[Zizu]

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Why is this news when loads of disinfectants and other products have been said to kill the virus ??


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[user104658]

Why is this news when loads of disinfectants and other products have been said to kill the virus ??


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProI've not read about it but, as a guess, it's because these sprays are usually a sort of "cream" that you spray on and rub into your skin like sun tan lotion. Potentially, if you do that on any exposed skin, it would act like a protective layer and kill any viral particles that land on you.

I would mention though; they taste horrendously bitter (they're designed to stop insects biting). Don't get it on your lips and don't try to eat a sandwich with it on your hands. Yuck.

[Zizu]

I've not read about it but, as a guess, it's because these sprays are usually a sort of "cream" that you spray on and rub into your skin like sun tan lotion. Potentially, if you do that on any exposed skin, it would act like a protective layer and kill any viral particles that land on you.

I would mention though; they taste horrendously bitter (they're designed to stop insects biting). Don't get it on your lips and don't try to eat a sandwich with it on your hands. Yuck.



Thanks


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[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EgXTeu2WsAUeiSH?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Ammi]

Coronavirus: Weekly COVID-19 cases in England decline for first time since July...

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-weekly-covid-19-cases-in-england-decline-for-first-time-since-july-12057658

[Crimson Dynamo]

Paul Pogba tests positive

[Nicky91]

I'd imagine most have no symptoms

even if you got no symptoms you must stay home as you can spread the virus to other people

[bots]

Paul Pogba tests positive

for being a tit? :laugh:

[arista]

Boris Johnson hires personal trainer Harry Jameson

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-53930665

[Ammi]

Coronavirus outbreak at Norfolk chicken factory sees 75 test positive and 350 families enter self-isolation...



A Norfolk chicken factory has partially shut after 75 workers tested positive and hundreds of families entered self-isolation.

A further 39 positive Covid-19 tests were confirmed among the workforce at Banham Poultry in Attleborough on Wednesday after 347 staff were tested.

The county's director of public health, Dr Louise Smith, said it was "now being regarded as a significant national outbreak".

It has sparked fears Norfolk could be the next area of the country to enter local lockdown.

The cutting area of the factory is to close on Thursday morning and staff have been asked to quarantine along with their families.

Dr Smith said: “We are now working with colleagues across the county, regionally and nationally to take specialist advice, including learning from other similar outbreaks in other parts of the UK.

"This will assist us to quickly make decisions on what the next steps will be to prevent further transmission of the virus."

Dr Smith added: "At this stage in our investigation these cases of infection are in staff who work in Banham Poultry and their households."

She said the source of the outbreak has not yet been determined and there were no plans yet for a local lockdown.

At least one factory staff member was taken to hospital but their conditon is not known.

Other areas of the plant - which employs 1,100 people - will remain open for the time being, but Government ministers are set to assess the situation on Thursday.

Norfolk’s Public Health team is working with the management team at Banham Poultry and colleagues at Breckland Council, Public Health England and the Department of Health.



...full article...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-outbreak-norfolk-chicken-factory-191059189.html

[arista]

[Britain records highest number of
Covid-19 cases for 11 Weeks
as officials announce 1,522 new infections]

Today 12 dead
Total UK Covid-19 Deaths 41,447

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


[From September 1 people who receive Universal Credit
or Working Tax Credit who are required to self-isolate,
who are unable to work from home and who are
in Covid-19 hotspots will benefit from
the new payment scheme.
Eligible people who test positive for the virus
will receive £130 for their 10-day period
of self-isolation while other members of
their household, who under current rules
must isolate for 14 days, will get £182.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8670345/UK-coronavirus-deaths-announced-Thursday.html

[Cherie]

[Britain records highest number of
Covid-19 cases for 11 Weeks
as officials announce 1,522 new infections]

Today 12 dead
Total UK Covid-19 Deaths 41,447

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/


[From September 1 people who receive Universal Credit
or Working Tax Credit who are required to self-isolate,
who are unable to work from home and who are
in Covid-19 hotspots will benefit from
the new payment scheme.
Eligible people who test positive for the virus
will receive £130 for their 10-day period
of self-isolation while other members of
their household, who under current rules
must isolate for 14 days, will get £182.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8670345/UK-coronavirus-deaths-announced-Thursday.html

Creeping up again

[bots]

the problem is that a creep very quickly becomes a leap. I think we will be deep in the poo again in 4 weeks time, taking into account schools going back next week

[Zizu]

Coronavirus: Weekly COVID-19 cases in England decline for first time since July...



https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-weekly-covid-19-cases-in-england-decline-for-first-time-since-july-12057658



That’s good !!!??



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[Zizu]

[Britain records highest number of
Covid-19 cases for 11 Weeks
as officials announce 1,522 new infections]

Today 12 dead
Total UK Covid-19 Deaths 41,447
[/url]



That’s bad ??!!


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[bots]

Don’t lick your fingers!

That’s what Kentucky Fried Chicken signaled to customers Monday as the company suspended its “It’s Finger Lickin’ Good” tagline after 64 years, deeming it “the most inappropriate slogan for 2020” amid the coronavirus pandemic.

The suspension will affect the slogan’s use in global advertising “for a little while,” the company said in a statement.

“We find ourselves in a unique situation — having an iconic slogan that doesn’t quite fit in the current environment,” said Catherine Tan-Gillespie, the company’s global chief marketing officer.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s coronavirus safety measures calls for people to avoid touching their eyes, nose, and mouth with unwashed hands to reduce exposure to the virus.

For now, the company, which is a subsidiary of Louisville, Kentucky-based Yum! Brands, is telling fans not to worry.

“The slogan will be back,” the statement said. “Just when the time is right.”

https://apnews.com/0253581094cd66ef1a73e82d47a5943f

[arista]

That’s bad ??!!


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Yes Food Factory's
not doing enough to separate workers
does not help.

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/08/27/11/32452270-0-image-a-41_1598525989718.jpg

[arista]

"Don’t lick your fingers!"


Yes KFC had to remove that old saying.

[Ammi]

Coronavirus: Switzerland, Czech Republic and Jamaica added to quarantine list...





Travellers arriving in the UK from Switzerland, the Czech Republic and Jamaica will have to quarantine from 4am on Saturday.

The new restrictions are coming into force in a bid to stem the spread of coronavirus.

Cuba, however, is being added to the list of countries exempt from quarantine.


...full article...

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-switzerland-and-czech-republic-among-new-countries-added-to-quarantine-list-12057898

[arista]

[Pret a Manger axes 2,800 roles from its coffee
and sandwich bars
as office workers continue to avoid town centres]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8670951/Pret-Manger-axes-2-800-roles-coffee-sandwich-bars.html

[user104658]

Coronavirus: Weekly COVID-19 cases in England decline for first time since July...

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-weekly-covid-19-cases-in-england-decline-for-first-time-since-july-12057658

[Britain records highest number of
Covid-19 cases for 11 Weeks
as officials announce 1,522 new infections]

Today 12 dead
Total UK Covid-19 Deaths 41,447

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/



:think:

[user104658]

Don’t lick your fingers!

That’s what Kentucky Fried Chicken signaled to customers Monday as the company suspended its “It’s Finger Lickin’ Good” tagline after 64 years, deeming it “the most inappropriate slogan for 2020” amid the coronavirus pandemic.

The suspension will affect the slogan’s use in global advertising “for a little while,” the company said in a statement.

“We find ourselves in a unique situation — having an iconic slogan that doesn’t quite fit in the current environment,” said Catherine Tan-Gillespie, the company’s global chief marketing officer.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s coronavirus safety measures calls for people to avoid touching their eyes, nose, and mouth with unwashed hands to reduce exposure to the virus.

For now, the company, which is a subsidiary of Louisville, Kentucky-based Yum! Brands, is telling fans not to worry.

“The slogan will be back,” the statement said. “Just when the time is right.”

https://apnews.com/0253581094cd66ef1a73e82d47a5943f

Which grubby bastards were eating their KFC with their unwashed hands & sooking their fingers in the first place? 'sake.

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[Kizzy]

That's weird I was watching a YouTube vid with some old adverts on and the fingerlicking bit was blurred out :/

[Nicky91]

That's weird I was watching a YouTube vid with some old adverts on and the fingerlicking bit was blurred out :/

yes they edited those

[joeysteele]

That Telegraph article is in part misleading.

I have the feeling Companies, have seen how productive working from home can still be.
It may be they don't want to go back to the large office environments.

Especially those in bigger buildings.
Thinking of electric bills plus the cost of being in the premises.

It may be some companies start to look at smaller office environments, where few need to be there all the time.

This is hitting other businesses as to takeaway and sandwich/ snack places.

Business will in the end, do as business wants.
Especially the stronger businesses.
If they can save much more having staff work effectively from home.

Less travelling expenses for staff too.
This may end up becoming a new norm as to office working.

The government can whine on and try to tell workers to return to offices.
However, even the government's advice is, it's up to the employers.
So really then it's a kind of lip service response again from the government to the worries of other businesses in cities, relying on large groups of office workers.

This may never get back to how things were before.

These kind of threats of get back to work or lose your job, during this still very uncertain pandemic.
Are frankly despicable.
Wherever those threats arise from.

We need again still,full openness and clear advice, not this mixing of advice then tinged with unnecessary ugly threats.

[bots]

provided public transport is safe and employers are providing a covid safe working environment, the government has to encourage employees back to the work place. If they didn't, they would be criticised for letting local service businesses crash and burn. Ultimately, its for employers and staff to agree the best approach for them and market forces will apply to the local services. There is no escaping that

[arista]

provided public transport is safe and employers are providing a covid safe working environment, the government has to encourage employees back to the work place. If they didn't, they would be criticised for letting local service businesses crash and burn. Ultimately, its for employers and staff to agree the best approach for them and market forces will apply to the local services. There is no escaping that


Reports saying so many do not have a mask on,
so they are not safe, enough.

[Nicky91]

no face coverings requirement anymore in Amsterdam

:facepalm:

[arista]

no face coverings requirement anymore in Amsterdam

:facepalm:


Not Wise

[Nicky91]

our justice/defense minister Grapperhaus broke social distancing rule, at his wedding today

he claims he wanted to marry his girlfriend because he was feeling very unhappy since the death of his previous wife

our PM Rutte defends his actions, and Grapperhaus has given money to charity (same amount as 3 fines)

[arista]

Today 1,276 New Covid-19 Cases in the UK


Today 9 Dead.
The Total UK Covid-19 deaths :41,486



https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[MTVN]

Cases of coronavirus are still levelling off in England, according to data from swab tests of thousands of people in random households.

Modelling by the Office for National Statistics estimates there are 2,200 new infections per day.

Following a low point in June in the percentage of people testing positive for the virus, there was a small increase in July.

This is staying stable for the week ending 20 August, the ONS says.

Source: BBC

[arista]

Cases of coronavirus are still levelling off in England, according to data from swab tests of thousands of people in random households.

Modelling by the Office for National Statistics estimates there are 2,200 new infections per day.

Following a low point in June in the percentage of people testing positive for the virus, there was a small increase in July.

This is staying stable for the week ending 20 August, the ONS says.

Source: BBC

There is still a major problem of getting a
test near the place you live.
It's not expanded enough.

[MTVN]

There is still a major problem of getting a
test near the place you live.
It's not expanded enough.

Nonsense, anyone can get tested with ease and have the result returned within 48 hours

[bots]

there is a testing station 20 mins from me and I live in the middle of nowhere

[arista]

Nonsense, anyone can get tested with ease and have the result returned within 48 hours


Was Reported in the South East Zone
they went online told to go all over the UK.
Nothing local

It is not nonsense.

[user104658]

You used to be able to get tested about 20 mins from here. If you try to book one now, the nearest centre is over an hour away. A bit odd.

[MTVN]

Was Reported in the South East Zone
they went online told to go all over the UK.
Nothing local

It is not nonsense.

You can always have a home testing kit as well, my manager got tested last week - asked for it on Friday and had it delivered the next day even with it being a Sat

[arista]

You used to be able to get tested about 20 mins from here. If you try to book one now, the nearest centre is over an hour away. A bit odd.


Yes Scotland like England
is closing many.

[arista]

Covid-19 Nations above 10,000 Deaths


181,435 USA deaths
118,649 Brazil deaths
62,594 Mexico deaths
61,529 India deaths
41,573 United Kingdom deaths
35,472 Italy deaths
30,601 France deaths
29,011 Spain deaths
28,277 Peru deaths
21,249 Iran deaths
18,467 Colombia deaths
16,866 Russia deaths
13,628 South Africa deaths
11,132 Chile deaths


https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[Zizu]

You used to be able to get tested about 20 mins from here. If you try to book one now, the nearest centre is over an hour away. A bit odd.



That’s the polar opposite of what was promised and is needed


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[user104658]

That’s the polar opposite of what was promised and is needed


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We were going to get my eldest tested as she has a sore throat. It's not technically necessary as it's not one of the "get tested" symptoms on its own - no cough/temp or any other symptoms but we thought we might as well... but didn't because it's such a long round trip for a test. But one of her classmates had the same (along with a cough) last week and was tested nearby. The testing centre has disappeared literally over the weekend :think:.

Her friend tested negative anyway and half of her class has come down with the sniffles/scratchy throat now so it's obviously some other random bug. But still. Just odd that it seems to have closed.

[arista]

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[bots]

A leaked government report suggests a "reasonable worst case scenario" of 85,000 deaths across the UK this winter due to Covid-19.

The document also says while more restrictions could be re-introduced, schools would likely remain open.

But it says the report "is a scenario, not a prediction" and the data are subject to "significant uncertainty".

However some are critical of the modelling and say some of it is already out of date.

The document, which has been seen by BBC Newsnight, was prepared for the government by the Sage scientific advisory group, which aims to help the NHS and local authorities plan services, such as mortuaries and burial services, for the winter months ahead.

Among its key assumptions are that schools will remain open and that the government's tracing, isolation, and quarantine measures will only be 40% effective in cutting the spread of Covid outside households.

It also states that by November "policy measures would be put in place to reduce non-household contacts to half of their normal pre March 2020 levels". In other words, restrictions to mitigate the impact - other than school closures - could be put in place.

According to the report these measures might be expected to remain in place until March 2021.

The model attempts to calculate excess deaths in England and Wales between July 2020 to March 2021. These are deaths over and above what would normally be expected during that period and are based on ONS data.

The model has been adjusted to account for people who would have been expected to die because they have other illnesses.

It said in England and Wales there could be 81,000 excess deaths due to Covid, plus 27,000 excess deaths from non-Covid causes.

In Scotland there could be 2,600 direct Covid deaths, and 1,900 in Northern Ireland.

In addition to excess deaths, the model also suggests how many people may need hospital treatment between November and March, including intensive care.

The figures, which the scientists say have a wide range of uncertainty, suggest around 2.4% of infected people could be hospitalised (range: 0.0%-8.9%) with 20.5% of hospitalised patients going into ICU (range: 1.5% - 35.25) and 23.3% (range: 1.2% - 43.3%) of all hospitalised patients dying.

The model also predicts an overall infection fatality ratio of 0.7% (0.0% - 9.7%).

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53954492

[joeysteele]

My cynical side here again.
They expect so many more deaths.

Leaking this, if the figures of losses,are well under 80,000 this winter period.
They can claim they averted larger losses.

Doesn't sound much like having any really effective planning even in light of this document.

I'm sorry, I'm now nothing other than suspicious of whatever comes from this government and its SAGE advice too sadly.

I wouldn't myself trust much of anything they say.
That's my opinion, sorry.
I wish, I really wish I could have a different view.
Too much deceit all through has eroded any chance of trust now at all.

[Nicky91]

here is one of those ''Viruswaanzin'' demonstrations against law enforcement etc

they are same as anti-maskers, believing masks take away your freedom that sort of crap

https://twitter.com/Momootjem/status/1296719930486906882

[arista]

France has had a massive increase of infected cases
and is getting close to another Lockdown.

Reported on LBC, SkyNewsHD

[Oliver_W]

Protestors, none of whom appear to be wearing face masks, filled the area beneath the National Gallery.

A flyer for the event said the demo would be addressed by ‘top professional doctors and nurses speaking out’. Jeremy Corbyn’s brother, Piers, was due to make an appearance alongside conspiracy theorist David Icke.

Mr Icke, who was kicked off Facebook for publishing ‘health misinformation that could cause physical harm’ earlier this year, said it was a ‘joy to look out over an island of sanity in a world of madness.’
https://metro.co.uk/2020/08/29/anti-lockdown-protesters-calling-coronavirus-hoax-gather-london-13195529/
It takes a lot of effort to be the worst Piers AND the worst Corbyn.

[arista]

Yes David Icke a Nutter Leader
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8676875/Thousands-anti-maskers-believe-pandemic-HOAX-march-against-lockdown-London.html

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/08/29/15/32537994-8676875-image-a-24_1598711298531.jpg

[arista]

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[arista]

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In the City of London.

[arista]

Today 12 Died

Covid-19 Total UK Deaths 41,498

New Covid-19 Cases: 1,108

Ch4HDnews.

[Kizzy]

The vaccine wouldn't be mandatory would it... so where's the issue?

[arista]

The vaccine wouldn't be mandatory would it... so where's the issue?

Yes
But those Protestors in Central London,
say there is No Covid.

David Icke is a Nutter

[Crimson Dynamo]

The tls daughter was pretty I'll (she is always I'll or hungover) this week, the TL told her work about her daughter, they sent her home. They went for a test. Today its negative.

Pair of hypochondriacs

[Kizzy]

Yes
But those Protestors in Central London,
say there is No Covid.

David Icke is a Nutter

What, We'd be forced to have it if they found one? The whole UK? I doubt it.

[Kizzy]

The tls daughter was pretty I'll (she is always I'll or hungover) this week, the TL told her work about her daughter, they sent her home. They went for a test. Today its negative.

Pair of hypochondriacs

Easy way to get a week off work, a lad my son knows has been sent home for saying he lives with someone who is unwell 8 times!

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[Ammi]

Face masks in schools: Boris Johnson performs U-turn on advice...



https://news.sky.com/story/face-masks-in-schools-boris-johnson-performs-u-turn-on-advice-12056671

...just going back to clarify the U-Turn...I think it’s less of a U-Turn and more of a ‘tweak’...It’s not to help ‘prevent’ as such, it’s only areas where a lockdown has already been placed again...horse already bolted/something/something etc..



‘But on Tuesday evening, the DfE decided face coverings would be mandatory in communal areas of secondary schools where social distancing was difficult from 1 September.

This is only for secondary schools in regions where lockdowns are in place due to higher coronavirus transmission.

As of Tuesday evening, these areas were Greater Manchester, Lancashire and West Yorkshire, Leicester, Luton and Northampton.

The rules do not include classrooms and it does not affect primary school pupils.

In parts of the country that do not have higher transmission, headteachers will be left to decide whether face coverings are needed.’

[Ammi]

Coronavirus vaccine development 'is just like Diana Ross and The Supremes,' expert says...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-vaccine-development-no-rush-expert-182357891.html


fQ7uXX9K7Sk

[joeysteele]

Coronavirus vaccine development 'is just like Diana Ross and The Supremes,' expert says...

https://uk.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-vaccine-development-no-rush-expert-182357891.html


fQ7uXX9K7Sk

Well if he liked her and the Supremes, at least he has a good taste in music.

Of course it can't be hurried to find a vaccine.
It's a bit like stating the obvious.

It needs to be the right one, effective and really safe too.

[bots]

i think it's going to be a very grim winter for every country. I wouldn't go planning any special Christmas/New Year festivities

[user104658]

i think it's going to be a very grim winter for every country. I wouldn't go planning any special Christmas/New Year festivitiesTbh I doubt it'll peak higher than the first wave though, simply because we're forewarned whereas people (governments) didn't take it as seriously the first time round.

I certainly wouldn't book any trips away though, or be planning any new years parties.

NYE is better at home with family, hot chocolate and a bag of doritos anyway :hee:

[arista]

India has seen a
record 78,761 new coronavirus cases in the last day
- the worst 24-hour spike ever recorded across
the world in the pandemic.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-india-sets-new-record-for-highest-daily-covid-19-infections-12059643

[arista]

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Central London Nutters

[arista]

Today 1 death

UK total Covid-19 deaths : 41,499

1,715 New Cases of Covid-19


Ref: Ch4HDnews

[arista]

[Coronavirus: Entire flight to Cardiff told to self-isolate
after seven confirmed COVID-19 cases]

[All passengers who were on a flight from Zante to Cardiff
have been ordered to self-isolate after seven
confirmed cases of coronavirus.
Passengers who were on TUI flight 6215
on Tuesday are now being considered
as "close contacts" of those who tested positive for Covid-19]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-entire-flight-to-cardiff-told-to-self-isolate-after-seven-confirmed-covid-19-cases-12059838


That's good its on Every news.

[Crimson Dynamo]

still dont know a soul who has been ill

[bots]

still dont know a soul who has been ill

you are very fortunate then

[Crimson Dynamo]

you are very fortunate then

its not just me

[Jake.]

still dont know a soul who has been ill

I know a few

[Crimson Dynamo]

I know a few

do you have evidence it was covid 19?
im not being david ike

im just curious

[AnnieK]

I don't know anyone who had a positive test but I know a few people who were ill at the height of the pandemic with symptoms but it was when they weren't testing unless you were admitted to hospital..

I also know someone who got contacted through test and trace and has to isolate even though they have no symptoms.

[Jake.]

do you have evidence it was covid 19?
im not being david ike

im just curious

Yes, my stepmums sister was seriously ill with it and it was confirmed as covid

[Jake.]

I was ill at the beginning of march but I didn’t get tested at the time (I did isolate etc. though).

I might get the antibody test, for curiosities sake

[joeysteele]

Yes, my stepmums sister was seriously ill with it and it was confirmed as covid

Glad you're okay Jake and really hope your Stepmum's Sister is recovered now.

It's a truly vile virus.

[arista]

Coronavirus: First £10,000 fines issued to nine people over illegal gatherings

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-first-10-000-fines-issued-to-eight-people-over-illegal-gatherings-12059943

[Jake.]

Glad you're okay Jake and really hope your Stepmum's Sister is recovered now.

It's a truly vile virus.

Thank you Joey, she’s fine now thankfully. Was no doubt scary at the time, what with her having two young children too

[James]

Coronavirus: First £10,000 fines issued to nine people over illegal gatherings

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-first-10-000-fines-issued-to-eight-people-over-illegal-gatherings-12059943

Piers Corbyn is apparently the 73 year-old fined £10,000 for organising the Trafalgar Square protest.

:eyes:

[DouglasS]

still dont know a soul who has been ill

Same.. one person died today with in in their system. One person out of 70million

[arista]

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