Coronavirus Outbreak

[user104658]

it's pretty obvious the way it's all heading. If the numbers don't come down within a couple of weeks, they will go back to the support bubble stage. I can see December/January being pretty much closed down and I think they need to look at schools opening over the summer and closing over the winterI don't think that's a terrible idea for schools, actually. Have more of the US structure (fewer breaks through the year, one long three to four month break - similar to Universities as well) but inverted so that the long break is November to February. I could probably get on board with that. I find the structure of school breaks a bit too scattered in general and have always said they should have a longer Christmas break and get rid of the October and Easter ones (just have them as long 4-day weekends).

[joeysteele]

Next Time
tell the Pilot First.


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/882A/production/_114285843_exempt1.jpg

[A man with serious breathing issues says he
was "ambushed" into wearing a face covering on a plane.
EasyJet has apologised after one of its pilots was filmed
threatening to remove the passenger from the flight.
The man was carrying an exemption card - but it was rejected
by the crew on his journey from Jersey to Gatwick.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-54075771


IF the exemption card is officially backed by a Doctor's name and official medical stamp.
Fair enough.

Although why anyone with serious breathing issues would even be thinking of getting on a plane, never mind doing so, is frankly beyond me.

In fact I'd doubt any Doctor would advise anyone with serious breathing issues to get on a plane either.

[Ammi]

...(..I think...)...as much as possible with some school restrictions and temporary closures etc...and because there will possibly be frequent times when a bubble is missing lessons etc, through having to be quarantined...?...through the autumn/winter term seasons...the lesson time that would have been used on things like Harvest Festival rehearsals../..Christmas Productions rehearsals etc...will and should be used for catch up to essential learning...I mean, that’s was the primary importance of schools reopening and being full size and full time classes again...that the children’s education was being damaged, which obviously it was...so I personally think that would be more of a solution...to keep the break sizes as they are but to look at how that lesson time for more ‘family events’ which can’t go ahead in the same way...can be used for inevitable catch up time for many children and their school...

[Strictly Jake]

An expert was on this morning a couple of weeks ago, saying with all the social distancing, mask wearing, sanitizer, screens etc it wont only help covid it will also help with other things like cold, flu and bugs.....


Well guess what....within a week of my kids having to go back to "normal" as its safe.....and bearing in mind they werent ill at all the whole of lockdown....my son is full of a cold from nursery, lots of other kids at the nursery have colds, my sister who works there has caught a sickness bug

My daughter in year 1 is full of a cold as are the majority of her class

My 5 month old baby who hadnt caught any sort of illness....now full of a cold! He didnt sleep a wink last night!

There are kids in other years of the school with colds too


So with all the precautions in place...and its been just 1 week....it cant even stop colds spreading like wildfire.....how it is going to stop covid spreading?!


I honestly think everything in place just hasnt worked as there are too many u turns here and there, it is confusing, people are being pressured to go to work and school and told it is safe. Yet cases and deaths have now gone up

I dont know what the real solution is to it all but whatever we have in place now isnt working.

[arista]

Schools are safe as it can be.

[user104658]

...(..I think...)...as much as possible with some school restrictions and temporary closures etc...and because there will possibly be frequent times when a bubble is missing lessons etc, through having to be quarantined...?...through the autumn/winter term seasons...the lesson time that would have been used on things like Harvest Festival rehearsals../..Christmas Productions rehearsals etc...will and should be used for catch up to essential learning...I mean, that’s was the primary importance of schools reopening and being full size and full time classes again...that the children’s education was being damaged, which obviously it was...so I personally think that would be more of a solution...to keep the break sizes as they are but to look at how that lesson time for more ‘family events’ which can’t go ahead in the same way...can be used for inevitable catch up time for many children and their school...I actually think the opposite Ammi :joker:. I feel that by-the-numbers learning can happen at any time (even a fully grown adult can quite easily catch up on primary school level maths etc.) whereas the more "vibrant" social learning and engagement is irreplaceable and absolutely what was "missing" during lockdown and remote learning. Maybe that's coming from a biased perspective though, at both ends of the scale. Traditional learning is easy for my eldest and irrelevant for my youngest. I guess it's kids who are already struggling to keep up in mainstream classes who would suffer in academic terms. Though tbh I'm inclined to think that with the world being up in the air, more engaged "practical learning" and mental stimulation is more important than a page of long multiplication.

[Strictly Jake]

Schools are safe as it can be.

These Colds or Flu
should be different to Covid-19 symptoms

Yes but if its possible to transmit colds and flu from person to person then surely logic says so can a covid infection. A lot of these kids may be asymptomatic

[user104658]

Schools are safe as it can be.Indeed, we know quite firmly that indoor social gatherings are the main factor but people are (begrudgingly, I will accept understandably) hesitant to give them up. There are economic implications too. But I do have to go back to my long standing view...

Pubs, cafes and restaurants etc. should not be open for sitting in. If that means needing a HUGE government stimulus to keep those businesses afloat, so be it.

[arista]

Around 5PM Boris Johnson is Live today
Updating Covid-19 Rules
10 Downing St.

[joeysteele]

Yes but if its possible to transmit colds and flu from person to person then surely logic says so can a covid infection. A lot of these kids may be asymptomatic

A cold already had or transmitted to a vulnerable or elderly person too, who may then from someone else get this virus.
Then that adds to the massive breathing problems likely too.

You have talked about confusion and you are right.

Of course the logic has to be children can transmit the virus.
You're right there too.

What an almighty mess this all is.

[Ammi]

I actually think the opposite Ammi :joker:. I feel that by-the-numbers learning can happen at any time (even a fully grown adult can quite easily catch up on primary school level maths etc.) whereas the more "vibrant" social learning and engagement is irreplaceable and absolutely what was "missing" during lockdown and remote learning. Maybe that's coming from a biased perspective though, at both ends of the scale. Traditional learning is easy for my eldest and irrelevant for my youngest. I guess it's kids who are already struggling to keep up in mainstream classes who would suffer in academic terms. Though tbh I'm inclined to think that with the world being up in the air, more engaged "practical learning" and mental stimulation is more important than a page of long multiplication.

...thing is though, TS...it doesn’t matter whether you agree or don’t agree or whether I agree or don’t agree...because there are obviously lots of perspectives to look at and things to consider...?...because the government have said..’this is all for our children, they’re being damaged and their education is of the utmost etc and they just have to be on the catchup etc...’...and then they all said...(...many parents for their various reasons...)....YAYYYY! We’re down with that as well...so any extended break being implemented...?...would just be so inconsistent and completely contrary to...full class sizes/full time school hours are essential for our children right now...making term times shorter is the dumbest logic...obviously imo....otherwise it’s just ‘arranging to fit’ like the government do...

[Ammi]

I actually think the opposite Ammi :joker:. I feel that by-the-numbers learning can happen at any time (even a fully grown adult can quite easily catch up on primary school level maths etc.) whereas the more "vibrant" social learning and engagement is irreplaceable and absolutely what was "missing" during lockdown and remote learning. Maybe that's coming from a biased perspective though, at both ends of the scale. Traditional learning is easy for my eldest and irrelevant for my youngest. I guess it's kids who are already struggling to keep up in mainstream classes who would suffer in academic terms. Though tbh I'm inclined to think that with the world being up in the air, more engaged "practical learning" and mental stimulation is more important than a page of long multiplication.

..actually the other thing with this.../...sorry I missed what you said about your little TS ladies...as you say, you have ‘both ends’ perspective as it were...one with learning difficulties and the other finding it very easy etc...the ‘mainstream’ of most classes, though...is more the thing and it’s the ‘mainstream’ that can hugely get overlooked as well...(..in the most non COVID of times...)..they’re not struggling to keep up exactly...but each lesson is hugely important for them and lessons lost do have a huge impact through higher schooling years, into the future...

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/09/09/32954676-0-image-a-3_1599639543645.jpg

[user104658]

...thing is though, TS...it doesn’t matter whether you agree or don’t agree or whether I agree or don’t agree...because there are obviously lots of perspectives to look at and things to consider...?...because the government have said..’this is all for our children, they’re being damaged and their education is of the utmost etc and they just have to be on the catchup etc...’...and then they all said...(...many parents for their various reasons...)....YAYYYY! We’re down with that as well...so any extended break being implemented...?...would just be so inconsistent and completely contrary to...full class sizes/full time school hours are essential for our children right now...making term times shorter is the dumbest logic...obviously imo....otherwise it’s just ‘arranging to fit’ like the government do...I don't mean less time in school overall, I mean taking all (or most) of the holiday weeks that we already have and distributing them in a different way. Like flipping the year upside down almost, so kids are in school through summer and have the long break over winter instead, and removing (or shortening) the half term breaks to make the winter break even longer (say 10 to 12 weeks). They'd have just as many school hours, just more of them over the "safer" summer months and tucked up at home in winter instead.

[Ammi]

I don't mean less time in school overall, I mean taking all (or most) of the holiday weeks that we already have and distributing them in a different way. Like flipping the year upside down almost, so kids are in school through summer and have the long break over winter instead, and removing (or shortening) the half term breaks to make the winter break even longer (say 10 to 12 weeks). They'd have just as many school hours, just more of them over the "safer" summer months and tucked up at home in winter instead.

...thing is though, TS...(...because this has obviously been discussed within education many times/rearranging terms etc...)..social interactions are so important with children as well, as as ‘outdoors and reasonable weather..’..etc...’tucked up ..’ ...wouldn’t really give them a balance as much as it’s given now, I don’t think...having their big time off in the summer months when the weather is hoped to be more expanding for them in their activities etc...?...it just makes more sense, I think...and also for both staff and parents, if they’re either having ‘days out’ type of staycation or a U.K. holiday...again, the summer months are often the ones that can give the most options...as opposed to winter having shorter daylight hours and more inclement weather etc...I mean, I guess that up in Scotland...you only might have one or two days of summer sunshine...:laugh:...but for the little British school people, they really do need their summer in summertime because it’s just so more user friendly with those most essential social interactions...

[reece(:]

1303378591779098625

[Zizu]

...thing is though, TS...(...because this has obviously been discussed within education many times/rearranging terms etc...)..social interactions are so important with children as well, as as ‘outdoors and reasonable weather..’..etc...’tucked up ..’ ...wouldn’t really give them a balance as much as it’s given now, I don’t think...having their big time off in the summer months when the weather is hoped to be more expanding for them in their activities etc...?...it just makes more sense, I think...and also for both staff and parents, if they’re either having ‘days out’ type of staycation or a U.K. holiday...again, the summer months are often the ones that can give the most options...as opposed to winter having shorter daylight hours and more inclement weather etc...I mean, I guess that up in Scotland...you only might have one or two days of summer sunshine...:laugh:...but for the little British school people, they really do need their summer in summertime because it’s just so more user friendly with those most essential social interactions...



So very true !!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Cherie]

1303378591779098625

this is just stupid, yes go out but go out and follow the rules of social distancing

[user104658]

this is just stupid, yes go out but go out and follow the rules of social distancingMost places just aren't though. There isn't 2m between tables.

[Zizu]

Yes but if its possible to transmit colds and flu from person to person then surely logic says so can a covid infection. A lot of these kids may be asymptomatic



Exactly... especially given that colds , influenza and Covid are all Coronaviruses ..


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[arista]

Update PM is now doing his Live 10 Downing St.
at 4PM

[user104658]

Exactly... especially given that colds , influenza and Covid are all Coronaviruses ..


Some "common colds" are coronaviruses, most are rhinoviruses. Flu strains are influenza which is a completely different type of virus.

[arista]

PM is now Live.

[Dogeatdog]

1303378591779098625

:laugh: I feel like I’ve been grounded by the government for going out too much during my birthday week off work.

[arista]

He talks of testing as if
it is so easy.

[user104658]

"Unmute, Robert"

:joker: I do love how quickly "zoom culture" has become part of daily interaction. In the past it would have been like "Don't know what's going on... we don't seem to be able to hear you Robert... no... nope still nothing..."

[Lewismacfarlane]

In Scotland it's up to 8 people in the one house

[arista]

In Scotland it's up to 8 people in the one house


Lucky You.

[arista]

"Unmute, Robert"

:joker: I do love how quickly "zoom culture" has become part of daily interaction. In the past it would have been like "Don't know what's going on... we don't seem to be able to hear you Robert... no... nope still nothing..."



Yes

[user104658]

In Scotland it's up to 8 people in the one house

40% better bukkakes? Or a whole extra pictionary team :omgno:.

[bots]

the mass near instant test is pie in the sky at the moment, it will never be ready for Christmas .... i'm all for optimism, but that claim is just silly. To say that hey will open up to more than 6 people at gatherings at that time is also extremely unlikely given we have had to tighten up already

[user104658]

"The Rule Of Six" keeps making me think of "The Power Of Three"

https://media.giphy.com/media/o0ZMpxhwZqFri/giphy.gif

[user104658]

Why did BoJo say "it breaks my heart" in a Danny Dyer accent tho. "Honest guvna it breaks moi 'eart it does"

[arista]

Why did BoJo say "it breaks my heart" in a Danny Dyer accent tho. "Honest guvna it breaks moi 'eart it does"


Yes trying to be relaxed as he spoke

[bots]

who is going to apply to be a covid marshal ..... i would have thought it would be an ideal job for some :laugh:

[arista]

2,659 Tested Covid-19 in UK Today


Today 8 died of Covid-19.


UK Covid-19 Total Deaths in the UK :41,594

More data:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

1303729371304337410

[arista]

1303729335082377216

[arista]

Chris Whitty
blames huge spike in cases 17-29 year-olds for
tough new curbs


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8714615/Boris-Johnson-unveils-draconian-new-coronavirus-curbs.html

[Zizu]

Some "common colds" are coronaviruses, most are rhinoviruses. Flu strains are influenza which is a completely different type of virus.



Regardless of that .. colds and Covid share many similarities apparently.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Zizu]

the mass near instant test is pie in the sky at the moment, it will never be ready for Christmas .... i'm all for optimism, but that claim is just silly. To say that hey will open up to more than 6 people at gatherings at that time is also extremely unlikely given we have had to tighten up already



I don’t understand how 6 people from one family equates to two lots of 3 from two families which also equates to 1 person from each of six families..

Surely a group of 6 people from 6 different families will be far more risky / potent ??


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[user104658]

I don’t understand how 6 people from one family equates to two lots of 3 from two families which also equates to 1 person from each of six families..

Surely a group of 6 people from 6 different families will be far more risky / potent ??

Partly I think it's because of how "grouped together" people are likely to be but even then, obviously, 10 people in a large living room or garden is going to be far less risky than even 4 people in a very small living room. It's all very arbitrary and I agree... logically speaking, in a large enough area, even something like 12 people from 3 different households is probably less of a spreading risk than 6 people from 6 different households.

[arista]

Due to Covid-19
Pizza Hut is planning to close 29 restaurants with the loss of 450 jobs.

and

Lloyds said it was cutting 865 jobs in areas such as insurance and wealth management as it revived plans to restructure the business.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54079002

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/7qN6wLmUq6McDFKfK7k94A/https/media.fyre.co/8KEK3AI5Rn2SS7fyqwLq_the-times-front-page_1599687744.JPG

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/Wy-kZ5XDi22c1uCoMWAkQw/https/media.fyre.co/YPZEBgv5SAOWHGVAdkyZ_mirror-front-page-black-out-christian-b_1599686475.JPG

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/WgBN0BrfWLAlU-w31M1GGg/https/media.fyre.co/4xNiBYbxQ2CYj0KJCCSf_daily-mail-front-page-1009_1599686735.JPG

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/-h87IpjoZ0Ouxtx0IwYT_g/https/media.fyre.co/jYXnKCfnSLqjxYNp5ZHu_daily-express-front-0909_1599686475.JPG

[arista]

http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/1F04/production/_114304970_star.jpg

[arista]

http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/904C/production/_114304963_metro.jpg

[arista]

http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/DE6C/production/_114304965_i-newspaper_page1.jpg

[arista]

http://c.files.bbci.co.uk/B75C/production/_114304964_1001ic-dtndt-1-100920-a001c-dt.jpg

[Withano]

Imagine people knowingly voted for him as if they didn’t see this sort of **** coming

[arista]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/DD-COMPOSITE-FRONT-PAGES.jpg


Small Sun with two larger old Sun front pages


For Withano

[bots]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/DD-COMPOSITE-FRONT-PAGES.jpg


Small Sun with two lager old Sun front pages

was that with a packet of crisps?

[arista]

Imagine people knowingly voted for him as if they didn’t see this sort of **** coming


But the choice was Corbyn
and so many Labour hate him

[arista]

was that with a packet of crisps?

Just a some old front pages



Yes missing a "r"
gets me Crisps with the booze

[Kizzy]

Just a some old front pages



Yes missing a "r"
gets me Crisps with the booze

Cisps?... :/

[arista]

Cisps?... :/


Yes I put Lager

But it should have been Larger

[arista]

Coronavirus: Britons told to travel as far as 500 miles
for Covid-19 tests as system struggles to cope

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-britons-told-to-travel-as-far-as-500-miles-for-covid-19-tests-as-system-struggles-to-cope-12067581

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/09/23/32985050-0-image-m-15_1599691598761.jpg

[MTVN]

Christmas is going to be the new press obsession then like summer holidays were back in May

Honestly I certainly can't see the situation being any better in December than it is right now and the chances are it'll be worse

[Ammi]

...sadly, I’m not sure that it’ll be too much better by Easter 2021, either..:sad:..

[bots]

Christmas is going to be the new press obsession then like summer holidays were back in May

Honestly I certainly can't see the situation being any better in December than it is right now and the chances are it'll be worse

i think the issue is that Boris yet again talked blatant bollocks. It's now a recurring theme, both on Brexit and covid. He tells people what they want to hear, even though what he is suggesting is completely infeasible

[Cherie]

Met a friend yesterday whose 89 year old mother in law died during lockdown, her death was certificate issued with Covid on it before the test came back, she didn’t have any Covid symptoms...and the family never got the results of the test :umm2:

[user104658]

But it should have been Larger

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.tenor.com%2Fimages%2F4e44a7 083d0901cc6847c23cedde55d6%2Ftenor.gif

[joeysteele]

...sadly, I’m not sure that it’ll be too much better by Easter 2021, either..:sad:..

Me neither Ammi.

[bots]

A Canadian flight was cancelled and police were called because a child was not wearing a mask.

Safwan Choudhry says WestJet wanted his 19-month-old to wear a mask, but the baby girl would not stop crying.

The airline says the issue was not with the infant, who is below the age required to wear a mask, but with Mr Choudhry's three-year-old.

Tuesday morning's Flight 652 from Calgary to Toronto was stopped, and all passengers were ordered to disembark.

"It's unlike anything I have ever witnessed, let alone experienced," Mr Choudhry told the BBC.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-54096061

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/10/10/33002562-0-image-a-5_1599729266333.jpg

[Livia]

We've had lots of new cases in Norfolk. Over 100 members of staff at Banham Poultry in Attleborough (about ten miles from me) tested positive. Although I've not heard much about people in my area coming down with the virus during lockdown, I'm hearing about more and more cases lately. One of the MPs I used to work with reckons we're heading for another lockdown.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/10/10/33002082-8717665-image-m-3_1599728801944.jpg
[Allegra Stratton is currently Rishi Sunak's head of
communications but Boris Johnson is said to want her
to be the host of the Government's new daily televised
press briefings]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8717665/Boris-Johnson-wants-Rishi-Sunaks-adviser-host-No10-TV-briefings.html



USA has the Fantastic Kayleigh McEnany, doing there's.
https://www.refinery29.com/images/10006556.jpg?format=webp&width=720&height=864&quality=85

[bots]

We've had lots of new cases in Norfolk. Over 100 members of staff at Banham Poultry in Attleborough (about ten miles from me) tested positive. Although I've not heard much about people in my area coming down with the virus during lockdown, I'm hearing about more and more cases lately. One of the MPs I used to work with reckons we're heading for another lockdown.

i think we are heading toward more restrictions, there won't be a fully fledged lock down. The schools have just gone back, we have had the first cooler weather and boom, the infection rate goes up, it can only get worse from here.

I'm also very concerned that Boris seems to have his head in the clouds. All his talk of near instant testing is just lies

[Livia]

i think we are heading toward more restrictions, there won't be a fully fledged lock down. The schools have just gone back, we have had the first cooler weather and boom, the infection rate goes up, it can only get worse from here.

I'm also very concerned that Boris seems to have his head in the clouds. All his talk of near instant testing is just lies

I find myself agreeing. I know that this is a new situation and no one get's it 100% right, but bloody hell. It's like they're lurching from disaster to a knee-jerk reaction, back to a disaster...

[arista]

The Health Secretary is Live on the News Channels & Parliament Ch.
Saying again, too many are going for tests - that do not need it.

[user104658]

I would be very, very surprised if they went anywhere near full "Spring-style" lockdown again. Frankly, the economy cannot take it, and they are very aware of that. I don't see them closing non-essential shops, I don't see them closing offices and workplaces, I don't see them winding down NHS services (the backlogs from last time are still an absolute disaster). I'd be very surprised if they close schools, and think that'll only really become a possibility if some evidence emerges that having them open is a major contributor to the spread. They might have to consider going remote for older teens though.

I do still think they're going to have to look at pubs, bars and dine-in restaurants though... and other similar indoor activities and gathering places.

[bots]

Scotland has followed England now in applying new restrictions

[arista]

Scotland has followed England now in applying new restrictions


Although, some changes starting in October

[arista]

Between 27August and 2nd Sept
9,864 Tested Positive for Covid-19
which is an increase of 43% compared to Last Week.

Released data AM today
Ref: All Out Politics SkyNewsHD

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhifgAsWsAEdiYD?format=jpg&name=900x900

[reece(:]

MFqpt9UuKCY

[Ramsay]

Dr Denise Welch is on the case

[arista]

1304085141791412225



One of his kids
got it.

[bots]

In fairness to Denise, she has some very valid points. I think mental health has dive bombed since this began and we should never underestimate the effect that this could have going forward.

[Ammi]

In fairness to Denise, she has some very valid points. I think mental health has dive bombed since this began and we should never underestimate the effect that this could have going forward.

..yeah she does have some valid points, I think...and it was very visible how anxious she appeared...her points are coming from a place of having mental health issue herself, poor lady...

[arista]

Portugal,
French Polynesia and Reunion ,
Hungary
from Saturday taken off safe travel


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-portugal-added-to-englands-travel-quarantine-list-12068114


From Ch4HDnews 7PM
some good news Sweden is now on the safe list.

[user104658]

In fairness to Denise, she has some very valid points. I think mental health has dive bombed since this began and we should never underestimate the effect that this could have going forward.

I think she's close to on the money with most of it tbh :shrug:. Seems to be being painted as a Covid denier when all she's really asking for is for people not to be so blinkered by Covid stats/fears that they fail to see the other very real risks that are present - mental health being a massive one.

She does seem a little too fired up to get her point across well on telly though, especially when trying to engage with a slack-jaw like Holmes. Wasn't he saying it was aliens or the overlord Xenu or something quite recently?

[Ammi]

Video of Spanish surfer arrested for breaching coronavirus quarantine goes viral...



https://uk.yahoo.com/?p=us



A video of a Spanish surfer being arrested after breaching coronavirus quarantine rules has gone viral.

In the footage, the woman can be seen trying to escape capture by police before being handcuffed and taken away.

The woman - who had tested positive for COVID-19 - was arrested on Monday at Zurriola beach in San Sebastián, in Spain’s Basque Country, after going surfing when she should have been in quarantine.

After confirming that she was meant to be at home, several officers – some in protective suits to avoid contagion – attempted to remove the woman from the water.

Video footage captured a struggle as the woman, a lifeguard, refused to stop surfing and tried to flee from the officers.

She was arrested for disobeying authorities and crimes against public health.

[arista]

Today 14 Died

UK Total Covid-19 Deaths :41,608


New Cases of Covid-19:2,919

More Data:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Zizu]

Video of Spanish surfer arrested for breaching coronavirus quarantine goes viral...







https://uk.yahoo.com/?p=us







A video of a Spanish surfer being arrested after breaching coronavirus quarantine rules has gone viral.



In the footage, the woman can be seen trying to escape capture by police before being handcuffed and taken away.



The woman - who had tested positive for COVID-19 - was arrested on Monday at Zurriola beach in San Sebastián, in Spain’s Basque Country, after going surfing when she should have been in quarantine.



After confirming that she was meant to be at home, several officers – some in protective suits to avoid contagion – attempted to remove the woman from the water.



Video footage captured a struggle as the woman, a lifeguard, refused to stop surfing and tried to flee from the officers.



She was arrested for disobeying authorities and crimes against public health.


Our people would have just sent her a polite , almost apologetic email ... suggesting she conformed ..


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Strictly Jake]

Well my mum and dad came to essentially say bye to my kids tonight. At least for a little while. We are a family of 5 so only 1 of them at a time will be able to come and visit and they rarely go visiting people by themselves. Of course they will but they wont be coming as often

Seems unfair seen as though when im at work I am seeing a lot of variety of people yet I cant have those nearest and dearest in my house when I want them to

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/FC4F/production/_114319546_mail.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/600F/production/_114319542_metro.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/1717F/production/_114319549_star.jpg

[arista]

1304036716488069120

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/10/22/33028418-0-image-m-4_1599771615904.jpg

[Ammi]

...the rule of 6 or 6 or 6.../...the number of the Beast...*side eyes Boris and his government*...

[joeysteele]

If it's true, I'm amazed Hancock won the day on this actually.
The likely worst Health secretary ever.

This just reflects, the mess this government is, the mess it creates,( likely as diversion tactics).
Then the mess it leaves people in too.

I fear we have very dangerously incompetent people leading the Country now.

It just seems like near disaster after disaster while Johnson still tries to act the clown.

[Cherie]

Well my mum and dad came to essentially say bye to my kids tonight. At least for a little while. We are a family of 5 so only 1 of them at a time will be able to come and visit and they rarely go visiting people by themselves. Of course they will but they wont be coming as often

Seems unfair seen as though when im at work I am seeing a lot of variety of people yet I cant have those nearest and dearest in my house when I want them to

Are you in a support bubble with them?

You can meet people indoors as long as your group is no larger than six people. However, if your support bubble is larger than six, you can still socialise together, just make sure you don't invite anyone else.


Btw at work you shouldn’t be mingling with others but keeping your distance :shrug:

[MTVN]

The rule of six is nothing compared to what we lived with for three months earlier this year so I'm not sure why people are blasting how 'draconian' it is now

It actually allows people from more different households to meet up indoors than is allowed for now

[joeysteele]

The rule of six is nothing compared to what we lived with for three months earlier this year so I'm not sure why people are blasting how 'draconian' it is now

It actually allows people from more different households to meet up indoors than is allowed for now

I'm not moaning at the level of 6.
Just at the incompetence of the whole process by those who should be leading.

No,in this all won't be got right.
However so much wrong and needing to be changed so often, does not inspire confidence.

My moan is, that this government dangerously relaxed way too much as to activity and numbers too, way too soon.

It's a bit like planning a journey scenario to me with this government..
All saying we'll go this way, that way then faffing on and procrastinating so much, they end up going nowhere in reality.

Now my hands up, 100%, this is not a government I wanted, in fact I didn't want any single party government.
I wanted a combination of the best of most parties, dealing with brexit of course.
Since this nightmare, admittedly for any government in power, came in too, I think that would have been better too.
To deal with it more competently.

However any government making the mess this lot has, would be getting the same fury from me as I direct at this seemingly more and more reactionary hopeless lot.

IF, and I hope for the Country and even this awful government too this doesn't happen.
However if this Winter sees chaos as to this virus again.
Then I will be dreading just what will.need to be done in that medium to worst case scenario.
With not a scrap of faith I'd have to trust any Minister and certainly never this PM as to this pandemic.

[The Slim Reaper]

1304386027038093314

[Ammi]

Coronavirus: R number for UK above 1 as speed of transmission rises...


The rate of COVID-19 transmission has risen above a critical level that means the infection is growing exponentially, official figures show.

According to the Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE), the latest estimate for R across the UK is between 1.0 and 1.2.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-transmission-rate-for-uk-rises-above-one-12069024

[arista]

Coronavirus: R number for UK above 1 as speed of transmission rises

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk


Yes Ammi
an Alternate link

[The Slim Reaper]

Anyone know if the R number is above 1 in the UK? :smug:

[arista]

Coronavirus: Households to be banned from meeting
each other in Birmingham, Solihull and Sandwell
From Tuesday.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-households-to-be-banned-from-meeting-each-other-in-birmingham-solihull-and-sandwell-12068720

[arista]

Anyone know if the R number is above 1 in the UK? :smug:


Yes on this Official Link
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/the-r-number-in-the-uk

[michael21]

Anyone know if the R number is above 1 in the UK? :smug:

Its 1 to 1.2


Time for second lockdown pm is scared to he already had it so is safe for now

[arista]

iABRA have a New 20 second Covid-19 Test Machine.


Heathrow have bought loads. (Of course still no Government backing)

Its a Swab test you put in your back of mouth
place it into a Plastic Unit then
place in the machine (Size of a Fat PC)
after 20 seconds it told Ian King
"No Virus Detected"


He said ,after, his Producer made him do a 2nd test
as he was a bit peaky.


Thursday 10AM SkyNewsHD Business report

Dell and Intel gave that Company backing.

[arista]

From Monday
Wales follows England
Face masks must be worn in stores.
Also max of 6 people, like England.

[Liam-]

1304449239238479873

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/11/13/article-8722347-33054906-771_964x543.jpg

[bots]

that's a very misleading graph Arista, there was next to no testing in March so the number of cases is not accurate. We are nowhere close to the levels we were at in March

[arista]

that's a very misleading graph Arista, there was next to no testing in March so the number of cases is not accurate. We are nowhere close to the levels we were at in March


Sure its a Rough graph.

[arista]

Today 6 Died.

UK total Deaths Covid-19 :41,614


3,539 New Covid-19 Cases today


More data:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

Nations above 10,000 Deaths of Covid-19

192,381 USA deaths
129,522 Brazil deaths
76,271 India deaths
69,649 Mexico deaths
41,703 United Kingdom deaths
35,597 Italy deaths
30,899 France deaths
30,344 Peru deaths
29,747 Spain deaths
22,913 Iran deaths
22,275 Colombia deaths
18,309 Russia deaths
15,265 South Africa deaths
11,850 Chile deaths
10,994 Argentina deaths
10,749 Ecuador deaths


Pro Data:
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/EC7F/production/_114334506_mirror.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/C56F/production/_114334505_the-i.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/9E5F/production/_114334504_times.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/774F/production/_114334503_star.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/503F/production/_114334502_mail.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/021F/production/_114334500_ft.jpg

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/12/01/33076526-8724273-image-a-33_1599868844649.jpg
[A group of girls gather in the street in
Portsmouth to enjoy a late-night takeaway
ahead of the 'rule of six' coming into force ]

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/12/00/33061506-8724273-From_Tuesday_more_than_one_million_people_in_Birmi ngham_will_be_-a-217_1599865587607.jpg

[Josy]

So we are back to not being allowed to visit anyones house etc :rolleyes:

[Nicky91]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/12/01/33076526-8724273-image-a-33_1599868844649.jpg
[A group of girls gather in the street in
Portsmouth to enjoy a late-night takeaway
ahead of the 'rule of six' coming into force ]

i would advise these girls to just go into isolation for the required 2 weeks, but i wouldn't hand out a fine

handing out fines, making strict rules will give more food for those anti-maskers

you need to become more friendly, polite and it being more recommendable advise rather than a rule or a must

i think people can listen more then, i am beginning to understand the anti-maskers opinions myself

[arista]

Warning Contains Swear Words


1304767415029575687


The Mayor
has had to close of some streets
to allow Schools to open in safety.

[arista]

i would advise these girls to just go into isolation for the required 2 weeks, but i wouldn't hand out a fine

handing out fines, making strict rules will give more food for those anti-maskers

you need to become more friendly, polite and it being more recommendable advise rather than a rule or a must

i think people can listen more then, i am beginning to understand the anti-maskers opinions myself


Sadly they will not, Nicky
I hope their older relatives
stay away from them.


Belgium has done much better
as Masks must be worn outside.

[arista]

So we are back to not being allowed to visit anyones house etc :rolleyes:

Yes all of UK has its spikes now.

[arista]

A list of Islands and Nations with No Covid-19
"on this day".



0 Bhutan deaths
0 Cambodia deaths
0 Dominica deaths
0 Eritrea deaths
0 Grenada deaths
0 Holy See deaths
0 Laos deaths
0 Mongolia deaths
0 Saint Kitts and Nevis deaths
0 Saint Lucia deaths
0 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines deaths
0 Seychelles deaths
0 Timor-Leste deaths




Pro Data
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[Zizu]

How are Sweden doing ??

Last time I looked about 5 months ago they were carrying on as normal ...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[arista]

How are Sweden doing ??

Last time I looked about 5 months ago they were carrying on as normal ...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro


Sweden has 5,846 Deaths
many sadly got in their Care Homes.

[arista]

1304782623118635009


Good news

[arista]

Today 9 Deaths

Total UK Covid-19 Deaths: 41,623

Still, a high number of New Cases : 3,497

Ref: Ch4HDnews

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhvhSWnWAAAknhx?format=jpg&name=medium

[Beso]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhvhSWnWAAAknhx?format=jpg&name=medium

I can probably be sure enough to eat a hat if I'm wrong...


Bit surely 1000 of women have that to deal with already.

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/qNN5kyXUhYYOh5q118ui-Q/https/media.fyre.co/4HbsZT0gT96IdT42W050_Times.JPG

[user104658]

I can probably be sure enough to eat a hat if I'm wrong...





Bit surely 1000 of women have that to deal with already.Most would have someone with them though, if not a partner then a parent, family member or friend.

[arista]

Most would have someone with them though, if not a partner then a parent, family member or friend.

Lets hope so.

[michael21]

So we are back to not being allowed to visit anyones house etc :rolleyes:

No know one said that

[Zizu]

Sooo parent away somewhere .. so there’s a decent sized party been going on across from us ... roughly between 15 and 20 ... all in a medium sized semi .

The poor girl’s gran calls around every day so she’s gonna be going into a house with gawd knows how many germs/bugs ..

Our town is on the verge of lockdown , we have 4 times the national average of infections and the next town has the worst rate of infection in the country .



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[user104658]

Sooo parent away somewhere .. so there’s a decent sized party been going on across from us ... roughly between 15 and 20 ... all in a medium sized semi .

The poor girl’s gran calls around every day so she’s gonna be going into a house with gawd knows how many germs/bugs ..

Our town is on the verge of lockdown , we have 4 times the national average of infections and the next town has the worst rate of infection in the country .



Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro


There's been a party of 10+ people in the house next door to mine basically every weekend like clockwork for the whole 6 years I've lived here... including last night, and all the way through the first lockdown. :facepalm:

They are hyper-committed to their parties though. For the first two years we lived here we had constant run-ins with them over noise (one of which turned physically aggressive) and reported them dozens of times ... eventually, in their quest to party, they built a giant shed/outhouse in their garden to have their weekend parties in... at the cost of several thousand pounds... which is just hilarious, but at least it solved the noise problem (we can still hear them with a window open or whatever, but there isn't music blaring through the walls at 3am).

Anyway - the point being, they haven't stopped at any point for Covid. There seemed to be less people back in April/May but one assumes that's because some of the people they invite were being sensible. Plenty of people kicking around out there last night, though. Some people are just never going to comply :shrug:.

[Josy]

No know one said thatWhat you on about?

My area has been put on heightened restrictions including what I posted....

[bots]

we will end up with "firm" mandatory restrictions until March which i think is unsustainable in a free society. I am also very concerned about these covid marshals. Our freedoms have been completely eradicated. Our freedoms cannot be removed for months and the restrictions should be optional not mandatory

[Zizu]

we will end up with "firm" mandatory restrictions until March which i think is unsustainable in a free society. I am also very concerned about these covid marshals. Our freedoms have been completely eradicated. Our freedoms cannot be removed for months and the restrictions should be optional not mandatory



Interesting to see how the proposed ‘hot line’ for concerned neighbours to tell all on the rule breakers goes down ..


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/09/at-least-66-people-linked-to-fur-farms-have-had-coronavirus-with-mink-a-likely-source/

at least 66 people linked to fur farms in Netherlands had coronavirus




https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/09/teachers-likely-to-get-priority-at-coronavirus-test-centres/

and also, teachers in Netherlands to get a coronavirus test priority

[arista]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/09/at-least-66-people-linked-to-fur-farms-have-had-coronavirus-with-mink-a-likely-source/

at least 66 people linked to fur farms in Netherlands had coronavirus




https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/09/teachers-likely-to-get-priority-at-coronavirus-test-centres/

and also, teachers in Netherlands to get a coronavirus test priority


Lucky them
UK is having trouble getting the Test kit capacity.

[arista]

Today 5 dead

Total UK amount of Covid-19 Deaths: 41,628

New cases of Covid-19 : 3,330


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Strictly Jake]

Feel really rough today, tired, bad head, itchy throat, cough, started to feel really hot tonight. Hope its just a cold as I have a runny nose. But as I work at both a school and a university im a bit anxious!

[arista]

Feel really rough today, tired, bad head, itchy throat, cough, started to feel really hot tonight. Hope its just a cold as I have a runny nose. But as I work at both a school and a university im a bit anxious!


Yes alot of Colds reported.
I hope thats all it is.

What is so wrong is there is a Test problem.
Not being admitted.


The new fast 20 second test
still to roll out some of those small machine's
are in Heathrow Airport.
It was viewed by SkyNewsHD business reporter
Ian king.

[Zizu]

Today 5 dead

Total UK amount of Covid-19 Deaths: 41,628

New cases of Covid-19 : 3,330


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/



So that’s roughly 25,000 new confirmed infections in the last week !!!

A top physician was saying on Sky News earlier that in a couple of weeks we will see thousands of hospital admissions then a couple of weeks after that it will be thousands of DEAD ... older people- it won’t be these selfish youngsters !!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Zizu]

Feel really rough today, tired, bad head, itchy throat, cough, started to feel really hot tonight. Hope its just a cold as I have a runny nose. But as I work at both a school and a university im a bit anxious!



Soon it could be up to 10,000 new infections per day !!

Given they plan on keeping schools : colleges : Universities open this time it means that all of us working in education will be cannon fodder :(


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/13/18/33129126-0-image-m-15_1600017618552.jpg

[The Slim Reaper]

Soon it could be up to 10,000 new infections per day !!

Given they plan on keeping schools : colleges : Universities open this time it means that all of us working in education will be cannon fodder :(


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

Just the thing to help with his anxiety. :laugh:

[Zizu]

Just the thing to help with his anxiety. :laugh:



It’s not done much for mine to be honest


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/p76pthQE53_dVDVSEsWHFQ/https/media.fyre.co/WEjDtgT6REaSBl8fBGvG_Metro.JPG


Stupid 19 year old gets a 10k Fine
for his overloaded party.

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/-mhGjW9BfqsFC1ooBZI8rQ/https/media.fyre.co/AXH2U9AhToiuDEWfKdef_Times.JPG

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/Vt4oyue5QtsuARyQXJFmYg/https/media.fyre.co/08xyrdpQzqmKGurA7FeM_Mail.JPG

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/Hw1Jpp0XYcVk1e0S2gtfLg/https/media.fyre.co/e54BCZGzQL6HaEFKgfM3_Telegraph.JPG

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/rJ3BgKOsHblYf9KazJ1A2Q/https/media.fyre.co/baS3Dsf4TTvRvpHBy6hQ_Mirror.JPG

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/vPfvYv1T2KGzlp0p8QA_qg/https/media.fyre.co/5j1qa7QrTIqY1StZWVAi_i.JPG

[arista]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/p0KXCqv-HsyT054k5L71_w/https/media.fyre.co/IzAcKnL5RxavmT01beDh_Star.JPG

[Zizu]

https://storify.com/services/proxy/2/p76pthQE53_dVDVSEsWHFQ/https/media.fyre.co/WEjDtgT6REaSBl8fBGvG_Metro.JPG





Stupid 19 year old gets a 10k Fine

for his overloaded party.



Oh dear , how sad , never mind...

PS

It’s not as though he’s ever likely to pay even a penny if that fine - in fact we’ll probably end up paying compensation for causing him upset ..


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Kizzy]

He's studying politics so obviously he assumed the rules don't apply to him :idc:

[arista]

Israel has gone back into a National Lockdown
for 3 weeks
They are trying to stop the increase of Covid-19.


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-israel-becomes-first-country-in-the-world-to-impose-second-national-lockdown-12071369

[user104658]

He's studying politics so obviously he assumed the rules don't apply to him :idc::hehe:

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/14/07/33149354-0-image-m-2_1600066161172.jpg

[arista]

Labour's Sir Keir Starmer
is Self Isolating until his test result arrives.


Johnson PM would like that on Weds PMQ's if Keir
is only on a screen.



Ref: All Out Politics SkyNewsHD 10:47AM

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-labour-leader-sir-keir-starmer-self-isolating-after-household-member-showed-covid-19-symptoms-12071690

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/09/14/12/33159100-0-image-m-10_1600081734031.jpg

[The Slim Reaper]

1305415388113571842

[arista]

1305438258520887296

[Ammi]

Coronavirus live - latest news updates: Grouse shooting made 'exempt from rule of six' - as WHO warns of 'real second lockdown risk'...

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-latest-news-live-police-urge-public-to-stick-to-limits-as-tighter-restrictions-come-in-12071480

[The Slim Reaper]

Coronavirus live - latest news updates: Grouse shooting made 'exempt from rule of six' - as WHO warns of 'real second lockdown risk'...

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-latest-news-live-police-urge-public-to-stick-to-limits-as-tighter-restrictions-come-in-12071480

Hours late. This was posted in the other covid thread, but with proper links, and a rebuttal from TS.

[bots]

i don't believe grouse have ever been required to social distance (except when a shot is fired) :smug:

[Ammi]

Hours late. This was posted in the other covid thread, but with proper links, and a rebuttal from TS.

...fake news that it was the latest, then..?...

[Ammi]

...there’s nothing wrong with my links anyway...they’re very nice links...

[arista]

The PM is live in Parliament

[user104658]

Hours late. This was posted in the other covid thread, but with proper links, and a rebuttal from TS.

:hmph: I didn't say that it was a good idea, just that the exemption seems to be for all outdoor sports, not just silly posh tweed-wearing "sports".

If you ask me I say Rule-of-6 the lot of them. Football teams can engage in intense 3-vs-3 grudge matches, it'll be great.

[Zizu]

:hmph: I didn't say that it was a good idea, just that the exemption seems to be for all outdoor sports, not just silly posh tweed-wearing "sports".

If you ask me I say Rule-of-6 the lot of them. Football teams can engage in intense 3-vs-3 grudge matches, it'll be great.



Mmmmm each team will have to nominate their three toughest headcase hooligans to go against three from the other team ..


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[arista]

Today 9 Deaths

Total Covid-19 UK Deaths:41,637

2,621 New Covid-19 cases

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Crimson Dynamo]

how many are ill and how many have NO symptom's?

[arista]

how many are ill and how many have NO symptom's?

Check the link

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/A7D7/production/_114376924_telegraph.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/80C7/production/_114376923_metrop1sep15.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/14935/production/_114377248_thetimes.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/D405/production/_114377245_mirror.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/FB15/production/_114377246_express.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/F5F7/production/_114376926_guardian.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/17045/production/_114377249_dm_15sept_slip.jpg

[arista]

[Coronavirus: France reports highest number of
daily COVID cases since pandemic began
It is the first time that COVID-19 infections have topped 10,000
in France in a single day.]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-france-reports-highest-number-of-daily-covid-cases-since-pandemic-began-12070399


Capt Remy
watch out mate.................

[Zizu]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/A7D7/production/_114376924_telegraph.jpg



“ don’t mix with other households “

Mmmmm - how’s that gonna play out for me working in a high school of 1300+ ??


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[bots]

it seems like testing has taken a large step backward, which annoys me when we have further restrictions placed on us

[Cherie]

Why are there no tests available?

[Nicky91]

at ICU's in Netherlands, there is space for at least 3 times the amount of potential covid patients in second wave, compared to march, april this year

this is because the duration time of covid patients on there becomes much shorter

[joeysteele]

Hancock's gone rather quiet.
I wonder what so called world beating system he and this utterly hopeless PM are thinking of to make things sound better than the truth really is as to this.

We've never had anything remotely world beating and it seems again, this lot haven't a clue.

I fear too their so called, if there's any done at all, preparation for a second wave, is further pie in the sky hope, rather than competent and proper CARING policy to it.

[Nicky91]

Hancock's gone rather quiet.
I wonder what so called world beating system he and this utterly hopeless PM are thinking of to make things sound better than the truth really is as to this.

We've never had anything remotely world beating and it seems again, this lot haven't a clue.

I fear too their so called, if there's any done at all, preparation for a second wave, is further pie in the sky hope, rather than competent and proper CARING policy to it.

also being done over here, preparation for second wave (also more being done to prevent us going in lockdown again since that would be disastrous for economy)

[bots]

Why are there no tests available?

the only possible reason is that they have reduced testing capacity. Sure, more testing is required these days, but we are nowhere near the threshold for capacity that they said they had.

In the top 10 covid hotspots, there was no testing available yesterday .... that's crazy... and that's the real reason we have restrictions

[user104658]

They forgot that a 2nd wave was extremely likely in Autumn and started reducing testing capacity. Can it really be described as anything but incompetence?

[arista]

The Health Secretary M. Hancock MP
is Live on both news channels


He is in Parliament


Labour (Jonathan Ashworth MP ) is now speaking
Students working in 2 Labs
have returned to college.
Some tests are now sent to Germany and Italy.

[joeysteele]

The Health Secretary M. Hancock MP
is Live on both news channels


He is in Parliament


Labour (Jonathan Ashworth MP ) is now speaking
Students working in 2 Labs
have returned to college.
Some tests are now sent to Germany and Italy.


I wait to see what deceit Hancock now relays again then.
Having had time to work out what may be the best way to further fool or deceive voters and the public.

[Cherie]

The Health Secretary M. Hancock MP
is Live on both news channels


He is in Parliament


Labour (Jonathan Ashworth MP ) is now speaking
Students working in 2 Labs
have returned to college.
Some tests are now sent to Germany and Italy.

Student returning to Uni should not have come as a surprise :shrug:

[joeysteele]

It's like groundhog Day with Hancock.
He's always going to increase this and that, yet never seems to get anywhere really.

He's good on talking about action, however in my view the only real action we get from him is from his vocal chords.
Nothing and nowhere else.

[user104658]

in my view the only real action we get from him is from his vocal chords.

He is a political bawhum, if you will.

[The Slim Reaper]

It's not like all this should be surprising. They've handled everything so badly from the off. They've lied about pretty much everything as dear leader takes more holidays.

Lied about following science, about trying to herd immunise us, lied about PPE, and still are.

The problem we have in this country is a real crisis of not caring about anything, just as long as Boris hates the same people that tory voters hate.

[arista]

Student returning to Un8 should not have come as a surprise :shrug:




Yes they had warnings
but failed to Hire Qualified Medical Technicians.


The Cock Health Secretary has failed
on this.

[user104658]

Wee Eddie Milliband has been tearing strips off him in Parliament, the clips are a good watch.

[bots]

there is no excuse for this testing fiasco, they have had months to organise it and be ready

[arista]

Wee Eddie Milliband has been tearing strips off him in Parliament, the clips are a good watch.


No I watched him, once is enough
he was enjoying attacking Johnson PM

[Cherie]

I despair at how badly people can do their jobs these days

[Cherie]

How difficult is it to look ahead and identify where problems can arise

[arista]

How difficult is it to look ahead and identify where problems can arise


One problem its 3 or 4 Private companies
doing the testing.
It is not unified enough.

[The Slim Reaper]

One problem its 3 or 4 Private companies
doing the testing.
It is not unified enough.

The government are handing out the contracts like sweets, to their friends.

you're supporting this shower of sh1t.

[arista]

The government are handing out the contracts like sweets, to their friends.

you're supporting this shower of sh1t.



I am not
the Health Secretary has failed

[arista]

[Coronavirus live news: Netherlands hits record
of new daily cases; Denmark's R number at 1.5]


Nicky's Nation also in trouble with increases.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/sep/15/coronavirus-live-news-global-cases-near-30m-as-who-warns-of-more-deaths-in-european-autumn

[arista]

1305893325287968768

[Nicky91]

[Coronavirus live news: Netherlands hits record
of new daily cases; Denmark's R number at 1.5]


Nicky's Nation also in trouble with increases.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/sep/15/coronavirus-live-news-global-cases-near-30m-as-who-warns-of-more-deaths-in-european-autumn

no it isn't

[Zizu]

It's not like all this should be surprising. They've handled everything so badly from the off. They've lied about pretty much everything as dear leader takes more holidays.



Lied about following science, about trying to herd immunise us, lied about PPE, and still are.



The problem we have in this country is a real crisis of not caring about anything, just as long as Boris hates the same people that tory voters hate.



They’ve been very poor but does anyone REALLY believe that Labour would have faired any better ?!?!




https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200915/ad310aa5b8302396bf3756c245db3da7.jpg

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Beso]

They’ve been very poor but does anyone REALLY believe that Labour would have faired any better ?!?!




https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200915/ad310aa5b8302396bf3756c245db3da7.jpg

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

The northerners would probably have listened more, so we may not have needed local lockdowns.

[Zizu]

The northerners would probably have listened more, so we may not have needed local lockdowns.



They certainly wouldn’t have listened to that numpty ...


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[arista]

no it isn't

It is
over 12,000 new cases


Why do you not post that high number?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/14/covid-world-map-countries-coronavirus-cases-deaths

[Nicky91]

It is
over 12,000 new cases


Why do you not post that high number?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/14/covid-world-map-countries-coronavirus-cases-deaths

i don't see it on our news sites though :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Figures released today revealed the number of people dying from coronavirus in
England and Wales has plunged to the lowest level since mid-March, before the
peak of the pandemic struck.

source\: DM today

[arista]

Figures released today revealed the number of people dying from coronavirus in
England and Wales has plunged to the lowest level since mid-March, before the
peak of the pandemic struck.

source\: DM today


Today 27 Dead

3,105 New Cases.

Total UK Covid-19 Deaths 41,664

Data:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

i don't see it on our news sites though :shrug:


Put your mouse over your nation
on that World map

[Crimson Dynamo]

Today 27 Dead

3,105 New Cases.

Total UK Covid-19 Deaths 41,664

Data:
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

Every day in the UK over 1650 people die

[arista]

Covid-19 Deaths over 10,000 around the World


195,047 USA deaths
132,006 Brazil deaths
80,776 India deaths
71,049 Mexico deaths
41,753 United Kingdom deaths
35,633 Italy deaths
31,007 France deaths
30,812 Peru deaths
30,004 Spain deaths
23,453 Iran deaths
23,123 Colombia deaths
18,723 Russia deaths
15,499 South Africa deaths
12,040 Chile deaths
11,710 Argentina deaths
10,963 Ecuador deaths

Pro Data
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[arista]

Every day in the UK over 1650 people die


Sure but 27
Died from Covid-19
Which is what the Thread is about

[Crimson Dynamo]

very low number

[arista]

very low number

But it is up from days before now
27 sadly Died from Covid-19.



Meanwhile
Musician /Singer Noel Gallagher says he refuses to wear a 'pointless' mask despite UK laws

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1305903281840025600

[arista]

[Stephen Donnelly: Ireland's cabinet
'restricting their movements' after health minister
reportedly has Covid-19 test.]

https://news.sky.com/story/stephen-donnelly-irelands-cabinet-self-isolates-after-health-minister-tests-positive-for-covid-19-12072721

[arista]

Lucky Ch4HD Reporter
was just Live in Frankfurt, Germany
As soon as he landed he took a Covid-19 test
it took 6 hours.
At their Airport he was negative.

Of course Germany is doing better
they have many more labs you can get a fast test.

[Josy]

very low numberYes it's a low number but its rising which is a concern regardless of the number imo

[Crimson Dynamo]

Figures released today revealed the number of people dying from coronavirus in
England and Wales has plunged to the lowest level since mid-March, before the
peak of the pandemic struck.

source\: DM today

Yes it's a low number but its rising which is a concern regardless of the number imo

incorrect

[Josy]

incorrect9 deaths yesterday 27 today that's more than doubled

[Zizu]

But it is up from days before now
27 sadly Died from Covid-19.



Meanwhile
Musician /Singer Noel Gallagher says he refuses to wear a 'pointless' mask despite UK laws

https://twitter.com/guardian/status/1305903281840025600



He must have an album due to be released ..


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Zizu]

9 deaths yesterday 27 today that's more than doubled



More than tripled ..


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[Crimson Dynamo]

9 deaths yesterday 27 today that's more than doubled

Coronavirus deaths now just 1% of national total as lowest week since March recorded

Data released today by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) reveals that there were 78 Covid-19 deaths between August 29 and September 4 - the lowest weekly figure since March

The number of people dying from any cause in England and Wales has dipped to more than 15% below average - while Covid-19 deaths continue to plummet, data released today shows.

Figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) reveal that in the week ending September 4 - the most recent available - 78 people died after contracting coronavirus.

This is the lowest weekly figure since March, and the stats reveal that there were nearly 1,500 fewer overall deaths than the five-year average.

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article22684427.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_THP_CHP_150920SLUG_8126JPG.jpg

https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article22684433.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/1_THP_CHP_150920SLUG_8121JPG.jpg

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-deaths-now-just-1-22684341

[Josy]

Coronavirus deaths now just 1% of national total as lowest week since March recorded



Data released today by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) reveals that there were 78 Covid-19 deaths between August 29 and September 4 - the lowest weekly figure since March



The number of people dying from any cause in England and Wales has dipped to more than 15% below average - while Covid-19 deaths continue to plummet, data released today shows.



Figures from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) reveal that in the week ending September 4 - the most recent available - 78 people died after contracting coronavirus.



This is the lowest weekly figure since March, and the stats reveal that there were nearly 1,500 fewer overall deaths than the five-year average.



https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article22684427.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/0_THP_CHP_150920SLUG_8126JPG.jpg



https://i2-prod.mirror.co.uk/incoming/article22684433.ece/ALTERNATES/s615b/1_THP_CHP_150920SLUG_8121JPG.jpg



https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/coronavirus-deaths-now-just-1-22684341Yes you've mentioned that but it's still risen over the past few days...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Yes you've mentioned that but it's still risen over the past few days...

Day figures are historical band meaningless

[bots]

i'm sure we all hope that the number of serious illnesses and deaths remains low, but we have to be aware of the inertia and the exponential rise in infection rate that can occur. We are in uncharted territory and given that it is best to be cautious at least through this winter. If we are not, it's difficult to get it back under control as we all know

[Beso]

The deaths are people who have died of covid after being diagnosed with it weeks ago...just remember that.


Hold on tight for winter...and just be nice to everyone.

[Beso]

i'm sure we all hope that the number of serious illnesses and deaths remains low, but we have to be aware of the inertia and the exponential rise in infection rate that can occur. We are in uncharted territory and given that it is best to be cautious at least through this winter. If we are not, it's difficult to get it back under control as we all know

Well said, that's exactly what I was thinking while you were typing it out

[Zizu]

Sky News mentioned a survey of U.K. doctors revealed that 9 out 10 feel that the second wave is imminent


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/FA13/production/_114391046_star.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/DD85/production/_114390765_dailymail.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/175DD/production/_114390759_metrop1sep16.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/4145/production/_114390761_telegraph.jpg

[joeysteele]

Watching the really atrociously incompetent health secretary today.
Should leave most just wondering what on earth has he been doing all this time.

What an absolute shambles from both him and his leader.

[arista]

Watching the really atrociously incompetent health secretary today.
Should leave most just wondering what on earth has he been doing all this time.

What an absolute shambles from both him and his leader.


Yes Amazed "the Star"
has him as a Clown, again
good front page from them.

[bots]

Ambulances were queuing up outside a hospital in Bolton yesterday, that doesn't strike me as a system under control

[joeysteele]

Yes Amazed "the Star"
has him as a Clown, again
good front page from them.


It's depressing.
Putting aside the forewarning we had in January of what was more than likely to come to us, never mind only possible.

To now, 6 months on from the national lockdown, be in this chaos still as to testing is disgraceful and dangerous incompetence.

I doubt anyone could have done worse than Hancock and Johnson on this actually.

This has been a really awful, unexpected and virtually unknown crisis for any government to have had thrown at them.
I felt for them to have to deal with it.

I supported fully the national lockdown.
Which however should been time used by any kind of competent PM and government, to fully plan for any further concerns regarding this pandemic in the future.
Which they haven't done and have failed dangerously.

There's a lot of the low number of deaths at present comments so it's nothing to worry about..
Which ignore that now it's only those who were diagnosed in the last 28 days.
If someone was diagnosed on 1st September with covid, then died on September 30th..
They won't be in the deaths figure.

This was a time, if there ever was one, to pull together.
With all elected representatives to work solidly together.
Everyone who voted for whoever and whatever party, are ALL affected, or potentially so, by this virus.
Yet, this lot have sought to divide, confuse with conflicting muddled advice, react rather than prepare and deceive by manipulating figures,even on loved ones deaths.
Also testing and the protection equipment farce, dangerous farce however.

Hancock has the support of Johnson, they are linked completely.
I doubt the UK has ever been so badly, incompetently and dangerously served by any previous PM and health secretary in a time of crisis.
As it has by these 2 failing individuals.

[Nicky91]

India has about 5 million coronavirus cases

daily for the last weeks there was about 95.000 new cases

death count there is at 80.000



India and USA are only nations with over 5 million cases as to this date