Coronavirus Outbreak

[arista]

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[joeysteele]

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IF the government choose to ride over the input and knowledge of the area and people from the Mayors, local government leaders and even MPs,
One of whom is Graham Brady Conservative who at present also isn't happy with the government plan.

That is likely to alienate the population there, it's going to send a worrying message in a constitutional sense.

I think the government need to think very carefully here.
The Mayor, Andy Burnham,like him or not..made a reasonable request for those particularly on the minimum wage, not to be forced to lose income.

This lockdown of tier 3 would have been a hopefully few weeks to a couple of months duration.
The government can find funds easily for other projects when it suits them.
They in my view are wrong here.
They should ensure no one on the minimum wage loses out.

As they should also in any area, where they enforce tier 3 too.

It's worrying and should be, that we have a government acting so confrontational and dictatorial.
It should put in place a circuit breaker across the board in my view.

With all the right and same support there was during the lockdown from March.
If you have to lockdown, then little has changed for the better.
So no way should the support package be diminished in any way either.

[bots]

like it or not, a lot of people in Manchester have been ignoring the restrictions and will continue to do so. We have had varying restrictions in places across the country since the summer and its done no good at all. Closing bars wont achieve anything when the infection has largely come from the young/student population. People wont stop meeting up in each others homes, and that can't be enforced


There is a simple message ... people need to social distance ... sure it can be enforced in a public setting, and it has been largely successful, but that's not where the infection is spreading

All that authorities can do is keep ramming home the message about not mixing within the home environment and hope that those currently ignoring it get the message eventually

[Nicky91]

like it or not, a lot of people in Manchester have been ignoring the restrictions and will continue to do so. We have had varying restrictions in places across the country since the summer and its done no good at all. Closing bars wont achieve anything when the infection has largely come from the young/student population. People wont stop meeting up in each others homes, and that can't be enforced


There is a simple message ... people need to social distance ... sure it can be enforced in a public setting, and it has been largely successful, but that's not where the infection is spreading

All that authorities can do is keep ramming home the message about not mixing within the home environment and hope that those currently ignoring it get the message eventually

then you need to change that, no more meetups at people's homes

otherwise fine them even more, or jail sentences for not sticking to the rules

[Cherie]

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what happened to locking down early being the key :shrug: thats gone out the window, as BOTS says the only thing that works is people staying apart from each other

[Cherie]

then you need to change that, no more meetups at people's homes

otherwise fine them even more, or jail sentences for not sticking to the rules

Nicky that is covered in Tier 2 and 3 and is already in place

It is now personal responsibility

[Nicky91]

Nicky that is covered in Tier 2 and 3 and is already in place

It is now personal responsibility

well then you're screwed lol, since people will never ever listen on their own

[Cherie]

well then you're screwed lol, since people will never ever listen on their own

are the Dutch any different :suspect:

why do you think infections are rising across Europe?

[Nicky91]

are the Dutch any different :suspect:

why do you think infections are rising across Europe?

do you think i like our current situation?


i have nothing but praise for Germany now, speaking of the Bayer region will go on a full lockdown, to protect the rest of the country which is overall in low infection rate

[Cherie]

do you think i like our current situation?


i have nothing but praise for Germany now, speaking of the Bayer region will go on a full lockdown, to protect the rest of the country which is overall in low infection rate

no one likes the situation Nicky

[Cherie]

ireland has gone into what appears to be a pretty permanent lockdown ... this is just all economically devastating .... and Germany and France won't be able to bail out the EU from this

crazy, so many parts of Ireland particularly rural Ireland has such low infection rates, In the town I come from there have been a handful of cases, and no covid deaths, yet all non essential businesses are shut

[Nicky91]

no one likes the situation Nicky

not many listen in my country either, and most of all those ''Viruswaarheid - VirusTruth'' morons are daily protesting in The Hague now, insulting our parliament with very vile nasty names

also reading how some think of Netherlands as ''most fascist country'' or some who say ''even under hitler you had more freedom'' makes me cringe and ashamed to be dutch

in Germany almost everyone can obey the regulations nicely, not many cases in majority of country, most hospitals over there are now trying to get people with other illnesses to come again and get treatments

as for the anti-maskers with them, that group just gets smaller and smaller as months go by i've seen on their news

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1318295282849808385

this is that news in Germany i talked about, that one region whom will enter full lockdown today at 14:00 PM

[bots]

Many people are just tired of restrictions, we can't get away from that. The longer it goes on, the more will ignore them. It's just normal human behaviour. Come Christmas time many will just ignore restrictions, and then we will have 3 months of hell until the better weather appears. It's not something unique either, restrictions just cannot work unless it is very short term and short term restrictions are not effective in dampening down infection

[Cherie]

https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1318295282849808385

this is that news in Germany i talked about, that one region whom will enter full lockdown today at 14:00 PM

and this is the way to do it, districts, not whole countries

[Nicky91]

yes and also seems quite debatable topic regarding corona in other countries than ours

What can we learn from countries like Germany, South-Korea, New-Zealand, Australia, Italy?

since all those seem to be doing quite well now

[MTVN]

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[Nicky91]

so what measures can work

*Face Mask Requirements indoors AND outdoors

*Full Lockdown, people only leaving their homes for either supermarket or doctor on paperwork form

*Work from Home most of the time

*a Ban on Protesting rights, no more protests, lock the anti-maskers up in their homes so they cannot interfere with our plans of eliminating covid-19


most of these are a must, if we want to keep enjoying our freedom healthy and in a safe way once covid pandemic is over

[user104658]

and this is the way to do it, districts, not whole countries

I dunno. 1) They tried local lockdowns and it didn't really work probably because 2) Germany has a comparatively orderly and "sensible" society compared to the UK, I find it HIGHLY unlikely that people in a localised lockdown in the UK will stick to their own area, and not just take a jaunt to the nearest area that's open for business.

[Nicky91]

I dunno. 1) They tried local lockdowns and it didn't really work probably because 2) Germany has a comparatively orderly and "sensible" society compared to the UK, I find it HIGHLY unlikely that people in a localised lockdown in the UK will stick to their own area, and not just take a jaunt to the nearest area that's open for business.

barricade it then with barbed wire, and place temporary borders with army forces

and only allow people outdoors with valid paperwork forms, what for they have to leave their homes

[Zizu]

then you need to change that, no more meetups at people's homes



otherwise fine them even more, or jail sentences for not sticking to the rules



They won’t enforce the rules in homes ..

We’re too soft in this country .. have been for a while to my mind .


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[Zizu]

Many people are just tired of restrictions, we can't get away from that. The longer it goes on, the more will ignore them. It's just normal human behaviour. Come Christmas time many will just ignore restrictions, and then we will have 3 months of hell until the better weather appears. It's not something unique either, restrictions just cannot work unless it is very short term and short term restrictions are not effective in dampening down infection



I hadn’t even considered how crazy the Christmas period will be ... then the aftermath of all those close encounters could be horrendous


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[Zizu]

yes and also seems quite debatable topic regarding corona in other countries than ours

What can we learn from countries like Germany, South-Korea, New-Zealand, Australia, Italy?

since all those seem to be doing quite well now



New Zealand has a land mass equal to the UK but a population HALF the size of London soooooooo


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[bots]

I dunno. 1) They tried local lockdowns and it didn't really work probably because 2) Germany has a comparatively orderly and "sensible" society compared to the UK, I find it HIGHLY unlikely that people in a localised lockdown in the UK will stick to their own area, and not just take a jaunt to the nearest area that's open for business.

i think it's a lot more fundamental than that. The people in the UK just don't take well to authority and its the same in many countries across the world. Countries that are doing well are respectful of authority. Young people have rebelled against authority since time began, so they are, predictably, leading the charge, but they are by no means alone

In many ways I equate this with smoking. We have known for decades that smoking was bad for you .... did it stop people from starting to smoke? No. It has taken generations to get the message across that it would be better not to smoke. Covid is going to take it's course

[arista]

New Zealand has a land mass equal to the UK but a population HALF the size of London soooooooo


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And Even better they
Halted travel into NZ


If you go there now officially
you must stay 2 weeks then be cleared by tests

[Cherie]

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yes its crazy, plus their 'wet pubs' ie pubs that don't serve food didn't open until the middle of September and promptly closed about three weeks afterwards, so the virus must be spreading in empty buildings.

[Cherie]

I dunno. 1) They tried local lockdowns and it didn't really work probably because 2) Germany has a comparatively orderly and "sensible" society compared to the UK, I find it HIGHLY unlikely that people in a localised lockdown in the UK will stick to their own area, and not just take a jaunt to the nearest area that's open for business.

Well they can but businesses can only have so many indoors so...

[Zizu]

And Even better they

Halted travel into NZ





If you go there now officially

you must stay 2 weeks then be cleared by tests



Plus they are sooooo far away .. out on a limb from anywhere


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[Cherie]

Plus they are sooooo far away .. out on a limb from anywhere


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yes its not like they have one of the busiest airports in the world :laugh:

[Zizu]

Think this is the 6th person to contract Covid19 TWICE ... that we know about .. there must be far more cases ..

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[bots]

Boris is having a news conference at 5pm tonight with Stephen Powis and Jonathan Van-Tam

[arista]

Today Live 5PM
BBC1HD
SkyNewsHD
LBC
radio 5
Times Radio DAB


PM Johnson
Stephen Powis NHS England
Jonathann Van Tam Dep. Cheif Medical Officer England


Greater Manchester need to sorted.

[joeysteele]

He'd be better having them back on a daily basis again than faffing on like this.

Of course he and his Ministers got awkward questioning when he did.
However with over half the Country and growing in restrictions or harder restrictions.

He may look better telling people daily what's going on, and what is likely to be

[Ammi]

Think this is the 6th person to contract Covid19 TWICE ... that we know about .. there must be far more cases ..

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...so far as I know, there aren’t far more cases, Zizu...but I read the other day...(...can’t think which link it would be but if I can recall, I’ll post it...)...there were around 29 in the world known...so this would be 30...still a tiny, tiny percentage and you’ll always get that with anything...that tiny ‘unexplained element’....

[arista]

He'd be better having them back on a daily basis again than faffing on like this.

Of course he and his Ministers got awkward questioning when he did.
However with over half the Country and growing in restrictions or harder restrictions.

He may look better telling people daily what's going on, and what is likely to be



He will not do Daily ones
this could be,
because of Greater Manchester mess,

[joeysteele]

He will not do Daily ones
this could be,
because of Greater Manchester mess,

A mess of his own making.
In my view.

[bots]

i think it will be deeper restrictions on many areas

[Nicky91]

netherlands todays numbers

8,182 new cases

252 (1,859 in total) new in hospital now, a rise of 32 (419 total) new patients on the ICU, most of those were already in hospital

17 new deaths

[arista]

i think it will be deeper restrictions on many areas


Yes could well be

[Cherie]

He better not be going down the stupid circuit breaker route :skull:

[arista]

Pupils sent home in half of England's secondary schools

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/03DC/production/_114888900_hi063148246.jpg

[Almost half of secondary schools in England
sent home one or more pupils
because of Covid incidents last week,
the latest attendance figures show.
It meant pupils having to isolate in 46% of secondary
and 16% of primary schools.
Disruption from Covid has been
increasing in schools - but the way of counting
has changed which prevents comparisons
with previous weeks.]




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-54614111

[Zizu]

...so far as I know, there aren’t far more cases, Zizu...but I read the other day...(...can’t think which link it would be but if I can recall, I’ll post it...)...there were around 29 in the world known...so this would be 30...still a tiny, tiny percentage and you’ll always get that with anything...that tiny ‘unexplained element’....


I thought that but in theory there could be thousands or hundreds of thousands of the the confirmed cases who MAY have had a very mild dose or asymptotic one some months ago .. and didn’t know they’d even had it .


The cases where they’ve had it a second time appear to be getting a more severe symptoms...so that fits


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[bots]

He better not be going down the stupid circuit breaker route :skull:

i think some more areas will shift to tier 3 not just Manchester, quite a few have been talked about.

I think it would be sensible to see how places like Wales do with their circuit breaker before trying it, but then thats a sensible suggestion so I doubt it would be considered :laugh:

[arista]

No Manchester Agreement
reached.

Burnham will get it Live at 5PM
from Johnson PM

[bots]

The Local Government Secretary Robert Jenrick says:

“I’m disappointed that despite recognising the gravity of the situation, the mayor has been unwilling to take the action that is required to get the spread of the virus under control in Greater Manchester and reach an agreement with the government. I have therefore advised the prime minister that these discussions have concluded without an agreement."

We understand Tier 3 restrictions - the highest level - will now be imposed. All pubs and bars, unless they are serving substantial meals, as well as betting shops, casinos, bingo halls, adult gaming centres, and soft play areas will be closed for a month.

We don't yet know when this period will begin.

[Nicky91]

The Local Government Secretary Robert Jenrick says:

“I’m disappointed that despite recognising the gravity of the situation, the mayor has been unwilling to take the action that is required to get the spread of the virus under control in Greater Manchester and reach an agreement with the government. I have therefore advised the prime minister that these discussions have concluded without an agreement."

We understand Tier 3 restrictions - the highest level - will now be imposed. All pubs and bars, unless they are serving substantial meals, as well as betting shops, casinos, bingo halls, adult gaming centres, and soft play areas will be closed for a month.

We don't yet know when this period will begin.

well those businesses got my deepest sympathies, but tbh you need to do all you can to get this virus under control

i'd say set some budget aside to help out these businesses after corona pandemic maybe

people's lives matter more than economy for the time being

[bots]

Apparently the government offered Manchester an extra 60m and Manchester came back wanting 65m ... so now they will likely get less than 60

[arista]

Apparently the government offered Manchester an extra 60m and Manchester came back wanting 65m ... so now they will likely get less than 60

He should have taken it.


Burnham is going Live in a min - All media

[arista]

Andrew Neil and Tom Newton Dunn
debating how silly to give up over 5Million quid.

Times Radio Live
DAB and Free Online
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/radio

[Cherie]

Apparently the government offered Manchester an extra 60m and Manchester came back wanting 65m ... so now they will likely get less than 60

wealth before health

[arista]

Burnham is Live Now




I'm getting Sick of him now


He just demanded, again,
Parliament must debate it????????????????

Look Andy
its PMQ's tomorrow

You can not flick your fingers and get a fast debate.

[bots]

on to more important news .....


The sale of Durex jumped when social-distancing rules were relaxed in the summer, says maker Reckitt Benckiser.

The consumer goods giant said growth in its health arm, which includes condoms and "sexual wellbeing products", rose 12.6% in the last three months.

Sales of Dettol, Cillit Bang, and air fresheners also jumped, helped by workers improving their new home-office environment, Reckitt said.

Total group sales in the last quarter rose 13% to £3.5bn on last year.

"Relaxations of social distancing regulations resulted in improved demand for our sexual well-being products," it said.

During the spring lockdown Reckitt saw a sharp drop in demand for condoms as people had less sex.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54613475

[Vanessa]

I was in central London yesterday.
Most bars and restaurants had tables outside and looked really busy.
Went for a walk, then to the cinema.
I know we're not out if the woods yet, but it's nice to see my favourite town come back to life again.

[arista]

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[Beso]

241 further deaths...

That's a sobering statistic.

[arista]

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[arista]

241 further deaths...

That's a sobering statistic.


Yes

21,331 New Infections of Covid-19


241 have Died today

Patients in hospital
6,431

Patients in ventilator beds
629


43,967 is the total deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[Vanessa]

Yes

21,331 New Infections of Covid-19


241 have Died today

Patients in hospital
6,431

Patients in ventilator beds
629

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/
That is a big jump. :shocked:
I think things will get worse, before they get better sadly.

[arista]

Friday Tier 3 Comes into Manchester

[Beso]

Has Burnham got mascara on?

[arista]

That is a big jump. :shocked:
I think things will get worse, before they get better sadly.



That's Why Burnham will now get
on Friday Tier 3

[The Slim Reaper]

Burnham is Live Now




I'm getting Sick of him now


He just demanded, again,
Parliament must debate it????????????????

Look Andy
its PMQ's tomorrow

You can not flick your fingers and get a fast debate.

https://i.imgflip.com/1s3wlm.gif

[arista]

Has Burnham got mascara on?


Yes
of course

[joeysteele]

Disgraceful of the government.
Absolutely disgraceful.

They can waste money on many other things, yet not for the lowest paid.
I support, unsurprisingly, Burnham 100%.

Dictatorial PMs and government are not a good idea, no matter how they dress it up.
Shocking.

[bots]

the figures for today aren't good

[Vanessa]

It pains me to say it, but we may need another lockdown.

[arista]

Johnson PM / Powis / Van Tam LIVE

[Vanessa]

Oh dear. Doesn't look good :shocked:

[arista]

Van Tam first
the grim numbers

[Cherie]

That is a big jump. :shocked:
I think things will get worse, before they get better sadly.

London numbers look okay?

[arista]

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Johnson just Confirmed Thursday Midnight
Teir 3 comes in to effect
Greater Manchester

[bots]

anyone seeing those graphs must understand how serious this is getting

[Cherie]

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Johnson just Confirmed Thursday Midnight
Teir 3 comes in to effect
Greater Manchester

They can’t be surprised surely

[arista]

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[Jake.]

Yes

21,331 New Infections of Covid-19


241 have Died today

Patients in hospital
6,431

Patients in ventilator beds
629


43,967 is the total deaths

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

We were warned in September that we’d be at 200 deaths a day by mid-November if drastic action wasn’t taken. We’re now past that figure and we’re not even through October.

[The Slim Reaper]

They can’t be surprised surely

They've just taken £40m off the table without any consultation. They're throwing money at their friends companies under the guise of PPE, but they're not anywhere close to funding the cities.

People have to stop voting tory.

[arista]

They can’t be surprised surely


Yes they all new Tier 3
was on the way


How silly to not take the 60Million pounds


Andy wanted just 5million more.

[Cherie]

There are more patients in hospital in Greater Manchester with Covid, than in entire SE and SW of the country ..that is astonishing

[arista]

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[arista]

For Slim


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[joeysteele]

Yes they all new Tier 3
was on the way


How silly to not take the 60Million pounds


Andy wanted just 5million more.

Because that's a costed minimum which was felt to be needed.
Not just by Burnham but all others in the region helping advise of the cost.

He'd come down from 75 million.
He moved..
This dictatorship we have in power now didn't.
Except to remove their so called offer.
An offer they likely KNEW couldn't be acceptable because it just wasn't enough.

This is the man who authorised 1 million to put paint on an aeroplane.

It's a disgrace.
A form of what should be unacceptable dictatorship.

[The Slim Reaper]

For Slim


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Everyone should be doing that.

[reece(:]

Hopefully Manchester remember this come the next election, Johnson is evil.

[Vanessa]

London numbers look okay?

Not really. Getting worse in here as well:(

[The Slim Reaper]

Hopefully Manchester remember this come the next election, Johnson is evil.

I think Manchester was about 70% labour, ust like Liverpool, which is why they're not arsed. Same as regeneration money has been going into wealthy southern tory constituencies, not the ones that need it.

[arista]

Johnson Concluded he does not want a
National Lockdown.
He will not rule it out, though

He did
46mins with his 2 helpers,

[MTVN]

Cases are now levelling off/decreasing amongst students/younger people at least so this may also be the case in older age groups in a few weeks time

[AnnieK]

Our numbers are shocking although some of the areas are reducing but they are too high. They have been reducing in some areas week on week and so hopefully that will continue. I imagine there may be some protests on the back of this though sadly.

[arista]

Hopefully Manchester remember this come the next election, Johnson is evil.


No Burnham is
take the 60million pounds - he should have


But no it must be Just £5million more

[reece(:]

The North East numbers are exponentially larger around the student districts, surprised it’s not similar in Manchester?

But maybe that’s why it’s been hush hush about us going into Tier 3... unless we are who Boris is lining up to punish next.

[arista]

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[bots]

the 20 million is for track and trace ... the business support is in addition to that and will be proportionate to what other regions have received, which puts it at 60 million compared to liverpools 30 million. Burnham didn't accept the money so Boris obviously cant yet say what Manchester are getting exactly

Those are the facts

[reece(:]

No Burnham is
take the 60million pounds - he should have


But no it must be Just £5million more

Evil for wanting to protect the livelihood of his constituents? Ridiculous statement whilst Boris is carting billions to private companies that are fumbling track and trace. The lowest earners once again suffer from contemptuous tories.

[Denver]

Evil for wanting to protect the livelihood of his constituents? Ridiculous statement whilst Boris is carting billions to private companies that are fumbling track and trace. The lowest earners once again suffer from contemptuous tories.

I agree with some of the things but he was happily gambling on lives to blackmail Boris for the numbers he wanted Manchester should have been on lockdown weeks back as the hospitals are close to running out of beds

[Zizu]

Apparently the government offered Manchester an extra 60m and Manchester came back wanting 65m ... so now they will likely get less than 60



How does that work ??

It’s not WheelerDeeler ...surely the Government will have to stand by their best offer ..


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[Nicky91]

I agree with some of the things but he was happily gambling on lives to blackmail Boris for the numbers he wanted Manchester should have been on lockdown weeks back as the hospitals are close to running out of beds

yup and then you'd need to set up some more of those temporary hospitals again (like in the first wave what they did with Nightingale)

[Ammi]

Our numbers are shocking although some of the areas are reducing but they are too high. They have been reducing in some areas week on week and so hopefully that will continue. I imagine there may be some protests on the back of this though sadly.

...I know, it’s easy to get lost in other aspects with the ‘financial support’, Annie...and the shock of that...but the figure graphs of infection are pretty grim...:sad:...

[Kizzy]

Isn't it odd that when the govt were wasting 20 million on non existent or ineffective PPE that figure was nothing?...pin money. Now regions need that it's suddenly a massive investment in the north? :/

[The Slim Reaper]

Isn't it odd that when the govt were wasting 20 million on non existent or ineffective PPE that figure was nothing?...pin money. Now regions need that it's suddenly a massive investment in the north? :/

They've spaffed (to use a Borisism) over £3billion on PPE contracts, mostly to their friends on unconcontested awards. One company with only £46k in the bank was given a contract for nearly £200m.

[Kizzy]

They've spaffed (to use a Borisism) over £3billion on PPE contracts, mostly to their friends on unconcontested awards. One company with only £46k in the bank was given a contract for nearly £200m.

I don't doubt that this pandemic has masked (pun intended) a lot of corruption.

The truth will out eventually.

[bots]

What was really concerning was that van-tam said liverpool would likely be above the March hospital peak there tomorrow

[Beso]

What was really concerning was that van-tam said liverpool would likely be above the March hospital peak there tomorrow

He spoke very very honestly tonight..the people of manchester need to wise up. Quickly.

[Kizzy]

He spoke very very honestly tonight..the people of manchester need to wise up. Quickly.

You can attempt to kettle the big cities.. it won't work. Covid is going to rattle through the whole of the UK regardless.

[Kizzy]

Cases are now levelling off/decreasing amongst students/younger people at least so this may also be the case in older age groups in a few weeks time

When did you dream this? The guy just said cases are doubling a week :/

[Zizu]

He spoke very very honestly tonight..the people of manchester need to wise up. Quickly.



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[Cherie]

The sooner people get on board that its in our own hands to stop the spread the better, we are hurting only ourselves, the government will be fine

[Cherie]

When did you dream this? The guy just said cases are doubling a week :/

It was in the graphs, its seeded in the young, but infection is levelling off and is showing up in the over 60s

[MTVN]

When did you dream this? The guy just said cases are doubling a week :/

Firstly there's politer ways of asking than 'when did you dream this'

Secondly if you watched the briefing you would have seen the slides showing what I referred to

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2020/10/20/5e5987c6-8a68-4d48-8b0a-a10087ef4dc5.jpg

[Vanessa]

Firstly there's politer ways of asking than 'when did you dream this'

Secondly if you watched the briefing you would have seen the slides showing what I referred to

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2020/10/20/5e5987c6-8a68-4d48-8b0a-a10087ef4dc5.jpg

I hope this means things will improve. :fc:

[Kizzy]

Firstly there's politer ways of asking than 'when did you dream this'

Secondly if you watched the briefing you would have seen the slides showing what I referred to

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2020/10/20/5e5987c6-8a68-4d48-8b0a-a10087ef4dc5.jpg
And I thought you sounded rather blasé about the whole thing...
I see the slides however it contradicts what he actually said, which was infection rates are doubling every few days. How that means this will be over in a few weeks I don't know.

[arista]

From Ch4HDnews
In January 2021

Paid Young Patients will be Covid-19 via their Nose.

They will stay in the Labs
and be taking Meds to cure it.

[bots]

And I thought you sounded rather blasé about the whole thing...
I see the slides however it contradicts what he actually said, which was infection rates are doubling every few days. How that means this will be over in a few weeks I don't know.

it means the age demographic affected has changed, the infection has been passed on to the older age groups and due to their age, they require hospitalisation, which causes those numbers to go up. However, it does look like the younger group are taking notice, so hopefully this will result in less infection transfers to the older age groups. It will take a few weeks to filter through

[MTVN]

And I thought you sounded rather blasé about the whole thing...
I see the slides however it contradicts what he actually said, which was infection rates are doubling every few days. How that means this will be over in a few weeks I don't know.

The slides don't contradict that. Two things can be true at the same time, namely that cases are decreasing in some segments of the population while cases overall are still rising

No one said 'this will be over in a few weeks', you must have dreamt that

[Kizzy]

it means the age demographic affected has changed, the infection has been passed on to the older age groups and due to their age, they require hospitalisation, which causes those numbers to go up. However, it does look like the younger group are taking notice, so hopefully this will result in less infection transfers to the older age groups. It will take a few weeks to filter through
My issue wasn't with the age of those infected it was the rate of infection as a whole in the UK wich is rising exponentially. As he clearly stated in the address, not sure why this is causing so much confusion.

[Lewismacfarlane]

I'm back in college tomorrow after 8 months away

[Kizzy]

The slides don't contradict that. Two things can be true at the same time, namely that cases are decreasing in some segments of the population while cases overall are still rising

No one said 'this will be over in a few weeks', you must have dreamt that

How rude!! ...

If cases reduce across all age groups that means by definition it will be on the wane, but there is nothing to suggest that would or could happen.. nothing.

It's never been disputed that this is something that predominantly affects those 45+ in relation to hospitalisation. Where in that info was the suggestion can or will change?

The cases will double, older persons will be hospitalised and or ventilated and the over 80s will just be allowed to die as peacefully as possible.

I see no happy happy joy joy outcome here. Less dream more nightmare.

[Cherie]

Firstly there's politer ways of asking than 'when did you dream this'

Secondly if you watched the briefing you would have seen the slides showing what I referred to

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experience/cps/624/cpsprodpb/vivo/live/images/2020/10/20/5e5987c6-8a68-4d48-8b0a-a10087ef4dc5.jpg

Are you new here?

[MTVN]

How rude!! ...

If cases reduce across all age groups that means by definition it will be on the wane, but there is nothing to suggest that would or could happen.. nothing.

It's never been disputed that this is something that predominantly affects those 45+ in relation to hospitalisation. Where in that info was the suggestion can or will change?

The cases will double, older persons will be hospitalised and or ventilated and the over 80s will just be allowed to die as peacefully as possible.

I see no happy happy joy joy outcome here. Less dream more nightmare.

The initial rise in cases began with younger people contracting the virus and then filtered through to older age groups so I'm hoping that this will be mirrored in the decrease of cases, it seems there are now going to be fewer and fewer young people spreading the virus

Bit of optimism never went amiss eh!

[Zizu]

From Ch4HDnews
In January 2021

Paid Young Patients will be Covid-19 via their Nose.

They will stay in the Labs
and be taking Meds to cure it.



Pity they can’t experiment on paedophiles and convicted terrorists


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[Kizzy]

The initial rise in cases began with younger people contracting the virus and then filtered through to older age groups so I'm hoping that this will be mirrored in the decrease of cases, it seems there are now going to be fewer and fewer young people spreading the virus

Bit of optimism never went amiss eh!
Rubbish...there is no age group that has a greater propensity for contracting the virus than another. The difference is how those react to the infection, with the severity on a sliding scale with age in the main.

If people of any age are mixing then the virus will continue to spread. Your theory isn't optimism it's fantasy. Sorry I sound a bit doom and gloom but that's how it is really.

[MTVN]

Rubbish...there is no age group that has a greater propensity for contracting the virus than another. The difference is how those react to the infection, with the severity on a sliding scale with age in the main.

If people of any age are mixing then the virus will continue to spread. Your theory isn't optimism it's fantasy. Sorry I sound a bit doom and gloom but that's how it is really.

No its widely known that rates increased amongst the young first and in fact you only need to look up a few posts to those graphs I posted to see that. With respect I would say that reading comprehension is leaving a little to be desired here

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkzRZ6jXgAA9PR7?format=jpg&name=medium

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkPgOD2WoAEKZnR?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ekzx3pYW0AAA8if?format=jpg&name=medium

[arista]

[Covid: China's Sinovac vaccine to be included
in Brazil immunisation plan]

[Immunisation programme could begin as soon as January 2021,
making it one of the first such efforts
in the world to fight the pandemic.]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-54619730

[Nicky91]

latest news from my country

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/10/police-to-step-up-coronavirus-rule-enforcement-soft-drug-use-outside-can-lead-to-fines/

Police to step up coronavirus rule enforcement, which will lead to more fines


https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/10/cafe-owners-lose-legal-bid-to-have-coronavirus-closure-lifted/

cafe owners lose legal bid to have coronavirus closure lifted

[Nicky91]

and also where i talked about the district lockdown in Southwest Germany, not just pubs, restaurants, bars are closing, but also last minute was revealed that their schools would close as well

[arista]

South Yorkshire is also going Tier 3 on Saturday

[Coronavirus: Sheffield City Region gets tougher
restrictions as 1.8 million people head for Tier 3]


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-sheffield-city-region-gets-tougher-restrictions-as-1-8-million-people-head-for-tier-3-12109984

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54627017

[Nicky91]

Netherlands

Corona-Warn App has been downloaded by 3.7 million people

most of those by provinces are

Flevoland (33%)

Zeeland (20%)

Groningen (20%)


30% of the people who downloaded the app are between the ages of 50 and 65

[Vanessa]

At this point they should just do a national lockdown.
Better do it now than in summer.

[arista]

At this point they should just do a national lockdown.
Better do it now than in summer.


Johnson does not want one.
He prefers Tier 3 in North England.

[Vanessa]

Johnson does not want one.
He prefers Tier 3 in North England.

I hope it works. But I fear it may not be enough.

[Kizzy]

Tier 3 is not lock down. ..tbh I don't know what it is, gyms are open so how it's any different to any other teir I don't know?
You would've thought 3 would mean no mixing at all....but no. Totally pointless.

[Nicky91]

yeah same how they believe in my country they can make numbers go down on a partial lockdown, so schools can remain open :spin:

imagine wanting to keep virusses filled schools open :skull: with no proper way of ventilating

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ek2L8f3XEAIG6Kf?format=jpg&name=medium

[arista]

[Coronavirus restrictions in Scotland
are being extended for another week,
taking the nation into a new tiered system.
Details of the new system will be published
on Friday and the measures will be
implemented from 2 November.]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-scotland-extends-covid-19-restrictions-as-nation-heads-for-new-tiered-system-12110159

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ek2ZK37WkAE0hQM?format=jpg&name=medium

[Nicky91]

Netherlands: youtube channel of rapper Lange Frans removed because he was becoming too provoking towards the government, and being a hardcore anti-masker, calling out several members of parliament to be shot

most of his music is also in discussion by youtube moderators if that will be removed as well

https://images1.persgroep.net/rcs/OuXgAmWpupWMea5M8QCZP3u2o7A/diocontent/174361149/_fitwidth/694/?appId=21791a8992982cd8da851550a453bd7f&quality=0.8

good on youtube for handing out a ban to this idiot, he already had been banned from twitter and instagram as well, more like a dutch katie hopkins but then anti-government amid coronacrisis (he was one of few who started calling our nation too fascist)

[arista]

21,331 New Cases of Covid-19

241 have died today.

Patients in hospital
6,431

Patients in ventilator beds
629


43,967 total UK deaths


https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[bots]

Four university students in Nottingham have been fined £10,000 each after telling police who broke up their house party they were "spoiling their fun". Nottingham Trent University said the third-year students involved in the breach of coronavirus restrictions had been suspended. Officers on patrol spotted a party in Lenton on Tuesday night but were told everyone had left. But inside they found more than 30 people hiding and, when challenged, organisers complained they should be having the "time of their lives". Mixing of households or support bubbles indoors has been banned since Nottingham went into tier two restrictions on 14 October.

[Zizu]

Four university students in Nottingham have been fined £10,000 each after telling police who broke up their house party they were "spoiling their fun". Nottingham Trent University said the third-year students involved in the breach of coronavirus restrictions had been suspended. Officers on patrol spotted a party in Lenton on Tuesday night but were told everyone had left. But inside they found more than 30 people hiding and, when challenged, organisers complained they should be having the "time of their lives". Mixing of households or support bubbles indoors has been banned since Nottingham went into tier two restrictions on 14 October.


Sounds like a good start for the incoming ‘clampdown’ ...


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[LukeB]

Four university students in Nottingham have been fined £10,000 each after telling police who broke up their house party they were "spoiling their fun". Nottingham Trent University said the third-year students involved in the breach of coronavirus restrictions had been suspended. Officers on patrol spotted a party in Lenton on Tuesday night but were told everyone had left. But inside they found more than 30 people hiding and, when challenged, organisers complained they should be having the "time of their lives". Mixing of households or support bubbles indoors has been banned since Nottingham went into tier two restrictions on 14 October.

ouch! one expensive party.

If they don't have rich parents to bail them out then oops

[Zizu]

ouch! one expensive party.

If they don't have rich parents to bail them out then oops



They’ll prob be allowed to pay £10 a month ( if they can afford it ) ..


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[Beso]

They’ll prob be allowed to pay £10 a month ( if they can afford it ) ..


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I would bet the ps4 online prescription fee gets paid first each month.

[Zizu]

Infections on a sharp rise in ever cold Alaska !!


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[Ammi]

Deaths after flu shots in South Korea fan fears, but authorities find no link...

SEOUL (Reuters) - Nine people have died after getting flu shots in South Korea in the past week, raising concerns over the vaccine's safety just as the seasonal inoculation programme is expanded to head off potential COVID-19 complications.

Five new deaths were reported on Wednesday alone, but authorities had no plans to suspend the vaccination programme, unless investigations, including post mortems, revealed a link, which preliminary findings had not.

"We have reviewed whether it is appropriate to continue the vaccination or better to suspend and wait for the results," health official Kim Joong-gon told a briefing.

"We came to the conclusion that the deaths had no direct relations with the vaccination given the limited data we have now and without detailed post mortem reports."

Kim said a preliminary investigation into six victims revealed five had underlying conditions.

Health officials also said no toxic substances had been found in the same vaccine administered to other people.

Coming just weeks after the roll out of the national vaccine programme was temporarily suspended over safety worries, the deaths, which include a 17-year-old boy and a man in his 70s, have dominated news headlines in South Korea.

With winter approaching, the country is planning to inoculate 30 million people in a bid to prevent the health system being overloaded by patients with flu and COVID-19 exposure.

However, the start of a free jab programme for around 19 million eligible people was suspended for three weeks after it was discovered that some 5 million doses, which need to be refrigerated, had been exposed to room temperature while being transported to a medical facility.


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/five-south-koreans-die-getting-061601340.html

[Beso]

Saying hello with a rub of the nose ain't the best idea it seems..


And neither is trusting a flu jab...

[Vanessa]

This is why I decided not to have the flu jab.
They say it puts you at risk of getting the virus D:

[arista]

2nd of Nov
Scotland changes to 5 Tiers
same as Ireland

Ref:BBCscotlandHD Local news

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/21/20/34676830-0-image-m-9_1603307011329.jpg

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/10FA6/production/_115024596_telegraph-nc.png

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/2992/production/_115024601_times-nc.png

[arista]

https://c.files.bbci.co.uk/184D6/production/_115024599_mail-nc.png

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ek4vHnYXgAgfMGi?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

Today Rishi Sunak the Chancellor in Parliament
new funding help for firms hit by this Virus


All media

[arista]

1319163659982168066


Pay Up
you student Punks

[Ammi]

...I don’t understand how when someone isn’t earning yet, they can pay ...these fines will be added to any grants, then...?...

[bots]

...I don’t understand how when someone isn’t earning yet, they can pay ...these fines will be added to any grants, then...?...

if they can't pay, they may end up in prison, thats the usual procedure ... ask someone who didn't have the cash for property tax or a tv licence ... it happens

[thesheriff443]

Local Covid news from the borough of Windsor and maidenhead, were I live.

206 new cases of people testing positive from 14 of October to the 20 of October up 33 cases on the previous week.

Total number of cases since outbreaks began 1,147.

[bots]

anyone noticed a lack of cheese in the supermarket? Mine didn't have any, so somethings up there:shrug:

[Strictly Jake]

anyone noticed a lack of cheese in the supermarket? Mine didn't have any, so somethings up there:shrug:

The mice are getting ready to hibernate.

[Ammi]

anyone noticed a lack of cheese in the supermarket? Mine didn't have any, so somethings up there:shrug:

...I’ll check it out this morning when I go and report back...

[Cherie]

anyone noticed a lack of cheese in the supermarket? Mine didn't have any, so somethings up there:shrug:

No pretty sure the cheese aisle was fully stocked a few days ago, unless there has been a run on it since :laugh:

[arista]

...I don’t understand how when someone isn’t earning yet, they can pay ...these fines will be added to any grants, then...?...


There is loads of them,
of course they can pay.


Rules Are Rules



Being Stupid Students
in Covid-19 times
they are Guilty


Pay Up Now

[Nicky91]

vice pm of belgium Sophie Wilmes is admitted to the ICU, earlier was already confirmed she was infected with corona

[Beso]

I'm starting to get a few cancellations now because someone in the household has corona..my 2nd one this week.

[Nicky91]

https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2020/10/we-are-not-infallible-king-says-in-video-statement-about-greek-holiday/

King Willem-Alexander a video statement and a apology for their inappropriate holiday to Greece

''The king, Maxima and their youngest daughter returned home from their Greek holiday home after less than a day following a public outcry in the Netherlands about the trip. The two older girls returned on Tuesday evening.

‘It hurts to have betrayed your trust in us,’ the king said. ‘Even though the trip was in line with the regulations, it was very unwise not to take into account the impact of the new restrictions on our society.’

The royals’ holiday home is in a code yellow zone but last week prime minister Mark Rutte had urged everyone to minimise travelling, as part of a new package of measures to reduce the spread of coronavirus.

The king did not mention the decision to allow the two older girls to return home several days later. According to the state information service RVD, there were no seats left of the plane to bring them back on Saturday with the rest of the family. ‘From the start of the coronavirus crisis, we have done our best… to be there as much as possible for everyone who is looking for support in uncertain times,’ the king said.

‘It is a difficult time for everyone…we have heard the poignant stories in many meetings with you, in person and digitally. We feel connected with you and with all those people who have been directly or indirectly affected.’

The message, recorded at the family home in The Hague, concluded with the king stating: ‘We are part of this. But we are not infallible.’

Prime minister Mark Rutte earlier accepted full responsibility for the trip, saying he had made an error of judgement.''

[bots]

BBC journalist Martin Bashir is "seriously unwell" with complications from coronavirus, the corporation has said.

The 57-year-old, who made headlines across the world with his 1995 interview with Princess Diana, is currently BBC News religion editor.

"Everyone at the BBC is wishing him a full recovery," a spokeswoman said.

Mr Bashir is also known for interviews with pop star Michael Jackson and the suspects in the Stephen Lawrence case.

"We are sorry to say that Martin is seriously unwell with Covid-19 related complications," the BBC spokeswoman said.

"We'd ask that his privacy, and that of his family, is respected at this time."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54639674

[Cherie]

BBC journalist Martin Bashir is "seriously unwell" with complications from coronavirus, the corporation has said.

The 57-year-old, who made headlines across the world with his 1995 interview with Princess Diana, is currently BBC News religion editor.

"Everyone at the BBC is wishing him a full recovery," a spokeswoman said.

Mr Bashir is also known for interviews with pop star Michael Jackson and the suspects in the Stephen Lawrence case.

"We are sorry to say that Martin is seriously unwell with Covid-19 related complications," the BBC spokeswoman said.

"We'd ask that his privacy, and that of his family, is respected at this time."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-54639674

get well soon :worry:

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1319225005591400450

[arista]

Rishi Sunak Live Parliament All Media

£2,100 new grants
a Month.


Changes to keep staff on

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-54639713


https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-chancellor-rishi-sunak-unveils-three-extra-support-measures-for-businesses-12111074

[Nicky91]

areas like Liverpool, Lancashire, Yorkshire, Manchester able to access greater support

[arista]

Labour's Anneliese Dodds Shadow Chancellor
is very angry at Jobs already lost.

[Nicky91]

Rishi again now


''protecting livelihoods, saving lives''

[The Slim Reaper]

Today Rishi Sunak the Chancellor in Parliament
new funding help for firms hit by this Virus


All media

couldn't get his face out the news when he was offering half price nando's, but he's disappeared for some reason.

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/22/10/34700212-8867135-image-m-59_1603358555352.jpg

[Nicky91]

''working towards a stronger and more united kingdom''

[arista]

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2020/10/22/11/34703534-0-image-m-6_1603363902498.jpg

[arista]

[Forget about Christmas: Adviser's blunt warning
for Scots as Nicola Sturgeon faces backlash
over plan for 'indefinite' five-tier system
of strict restrictions that would plunge
most of Scotland into almost full lockdown indefinitely]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8867021/Coronavirus-Scotland-Nicola-Sturgeon-rocked-lockdown-backlash.html

Scotland just said 17 more Dead
Also in Scotland 1,712 new positive Covid-19 cases


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-scotland-54621910

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ek7UN5HXgAEn0GH?format=jpg&name=medium

Todays papers including the Sun.

[Nicky91]

https://twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1319236457630924800

European Commission is sending its first batch of 30 ventilators to hard hit Czech Republic

[Nicky91]

and miss Ursula von der leyen was live just now, second round ask the president

https://twitter.com/EU_Commission/status/1319223718334418944

with also one question, regarding unmarried couples amid this pandemic

[arista]

1318937308297596928


Clever 83 year old lady

[Cherie]

1318937308297596928


Clever 83 year old lady

That's great love, but you are only thinking about yourself at the end of the day, and herein lies the problem

[arista]

Coronavirus: Talks to move Nottinghamshire to Tier 3 will happen today

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-talks-to-move-nottinghamshire-to-tier-3-will-happen-today-12111138

[arista]

Prime Minister Johnson and Rishi Sunak
are going to be Live at 4PM today

[Cherie]

Prime Minister Johnson and Rishi Sunak
are going to be Live at 4PM today

all I can hear in my head is Martin Tyler and It's LIVE

[thesheriff443]

Medium sized Tesco ‘s in maidenhead town centre mall closed saying it wasn’t making enough money

It’s shocking because this shop has been there for At least 35 years.

[thesheriff443]

Medium sized Tesco ‘s in maidenhead town centre mall closed saying it wasn’t making enough money

It’s shocking because this shop has been there for At least 35 years.

[Nicky91]

netherlands todays numbers

9,283 new cases

46 new deaths

2,003 in hospital now (increase of 238) of which 463 on ICU




and Spain has noted its peak of 1 million cases, first country in europe to report that, and their government are thinking about opting for curfews

[Vanessa]

netherlands todays numbers

9,283 new cases

46 new deaths

2,003 in hospital now (increase of 238) of which 463 on ICU




and Spain has noted its peak of 1 million cases, first country in europe to report that, and their government are thinking about opting for curfews

One million cases? D:

[arista]

We are Live in 10 Downing St in a min
The PM
Sir Patrick Vallance
and Rishi Sunak

[arista]

Live Now

[Vanessa]

Boris is on.

[bots]

manchester nightingale hospital re-opens next week, if thats not a wake up call, i dont know what is

[arista]

Manchester nightingale hospital re-opens next week, if thats not a wake up call, i dont know what is


Yes it sure is

[arista]

Yvonne a Posh lady
gets the first public question

[arista]

SkyNewsHD Beth
attacks the PM saying he is at War with Manchester?

Johnson Tried to Cut her off fast
but then Patrick still had to speak to her.

[Nicky91]

no national lockdown, schools remaining open, wanting to keep economy going

no changes then

[arista]

He did 45mins
and his 2 helpers.

[arista]

no national lockdown, schools remaining open, wanting to keep economy going

no changes then

Yes Labour Party are Crazy

[arista]

Patients in hospital
7,433

Patients in ventilator beds
711

189 Died today


21,242 New Covid-19 cases


44,347 Total UK Deaths.

https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ek86S4iWMAAWz_z?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EknLlEPXYAA7_XW?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ek2BTWfXUAAYF8C?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

From Ch4HDnews

with over 2000 Covid-19 deaths in Scottish Care Homes
Police are now looking into this.

[Zizu]

From Ch4HDnews

with over 2000 Covid-19 deaths in Scottish Care Homes
Police are now looking into this.



How is this happening again fgs !!!


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[arista]

Yes Scotland is getting worse

[arista]

Nations above 10,000 deaths of Covid-19

222,663 USA deaths
155,403 Brazil deaths
116,616 India deaths
87,415 Mexico deaths
44,437 United Kingdom deaths
36,968 Italy deaths
34,521 Spain deaths
34,237 France deaths
33,937 Peru deaths
31,650 Iran deaths
29,464 Colombia deaths
27,519 Argentina deaths
25,072 Russia deaths
18,741 South Africa deaths
13,792 Chile deaths
12,959 Indonesia deaths
12,500 Ecuador deaths
10,539 Belgium deaths
10,465 Iraq deaths

Pro data: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

[Zizu]

Yes Scotland is getting worse



But I thought that this time all the care homes would be super safe ..


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[Cherie]

Numbers in the NE are falling Zizu...finally!

[Josy]

From Ch4HDnews

with over 2000 Covid-19 deaths in Scottish Care Homes
Police are now looking into this.Theres an outbreak in the home that my dads in atm, we were quite nervous the past few days as we had to wait on my dads results, he got them earlier this afternoon and thankfully it was negative though.

[joeysteele]

Theres an outbreak in the home that my dads in atm, we were quite nervous the past few days as we had to wait on my dads results, he got them earlier this afternoon and thankfully it was negative though.

I'm so glad to hear that Josy.
I know the anxiety and even fear felt waiting for test results.

It's really horrible.

So glad you got the better news, bless him.

[Beso]

Theres an outbreak in the home that my dads in atm, we were quite nervous the past few days as we had to wait on my dads results, he got them earlier this afternoon and thankfully it was negative though.

Josy, from the bottom of my heart, if at all possible get him out if theres an outbreak

I cant type how much I'm thinking n caring about your dad.

[Josy]

Josy, from the bottom of my heart, if at all possible get him out if theres an outbreak



I cant type how much I'm thinking n caring about your dad.We arent allowed into the home (no one is) and the residents are isolating in their own rooms, the home he is in has been really good following the guidelines from the beginning of this tbf to them, this particular outbreak was caused due to a staff member having it without symptoms and they were great with letting us know straight away and keeping us updated the whole time.

On the other hand there is a different care home near us and an outbreak was reported yesterday with 18 residents testing positive within a few days, they must be ignoring guidelines somewhere imo.

[Josy]

I'm so glad to hear that Josy.
I know the anxiety and even fear felt waiting for test results.

It's really horrible.

So glad you got the better news, bless him.Thanks Joey

[Dogeatdog]

Theres an outbreak in the home that my dads in atm, we were quite nervous the past few days as we had to wait on my dads results, he got them earlier this afternoon and thankfully it was negative though.

That must’ve felt so worrying Josy but I’m very glad that he’s tested negative and I hope that you all are feeling a little bit more relaxed now.

[Beso]

We arent allowed into the home (no one is) and the residents are isolating in their own rooms, the home he is in has been really good following the guidelines from the beginning of this tbf to them, this particular outbreak was caused due to a staff member having it without symptoms and they were great with letting us know straight away and keeping us updated the whole time.

On the other hand there is a different care home near us and an outbreak was reported yesterday with 18 residents testing positive within a few days, they must be ignoring guidelines somewhere imo.

Well I'm sorry, but it cant be the residents..so if its not dodgy flu jabs it can only be the carers.

So what now for them all?

[user104658]

From Ch4HDnews

with over 2000 Covid-19 deaths in Scottish Care Homes
Police are now looking into this.How is this happening again fgs !!!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProYes Scotland is getting worseBut I thought that this time all the care homes would be super safe ..


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk ProSince no one else has bothered to address your mounting panic here Zizu; this is 2000 deaths since the beginning of the pandemic, not 2000 deaths in recent weeks. There have only been a few hundred deaths TOTAL in Scotland since the start of the 2nd wave.

[arista]

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[Zizu]

Numbers in the NE are falling Zizu...finally!



That’s heartwarming news !!

Much needed as well ..


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[Zizu]

Since no one else has bothered to address your mounting panic here Zizu; this is 2000 deaths since the beginning of the pandemic, not 2000 deaths in recent weeks. There have only been a few hundred deaths TOTAL in Scotland since the start of the 2nd wave.


Thank you !

That doesn’t sound quite as horrendous.


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[arista]

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[Josy]

That must’ve felt so worrying Josy but I’m very glad that he’s tested negative and I hope that you all are feeling a little bit more relaxed now.Thank you

[Ammi]

...Josy..:hug:..my mum’s in an Alzheimer’s care home as well, it’s such an awful time...I’m so, so glad that your dad is being cared for and that he’s okay...:hug:...

[Ammi]

...this was always one of the big worries...how long ‘immunity’ would last for anyone who had previously infected...which means that ‘herd immunity’ would never be an option anyway...


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[Ammi]

'Don't put clocks back to help fight COVID pandemic misery', petition urges...


https://uk.yahoo.com/news/clocks-go-back-covid-pandemic-petition-125329850.html


...I would say that it’s far too late on the clock for this to be thought about applying if it ever would have been, which I doubt...

[Zizu]

...this was always one of the big worries...how long ‘immunity’ would last for anyone who had previously infected...which means that ‘herd immunity’ would never be an option anyway...





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She raises some very pertinent points ...


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[Nicky91]

netherlands: many scientists believe we need to go to a 4 week full lockdown, so closing stores, closing schools for that time, since they believe a partial lockdown what we are in now won't help a thing slowing the spread down

[Cherie]

Theres an outbreak in the home that my dads in atm, we were quite nervous the past few days as we had to wait on my dads results, he got them earlier this afternoon and thankfully it was negative though.

Oh phew the waiting must have been horrible x

[bots]

The uncertainty that is being generated across so many aspects of our lives by covid could ultimately be more damaging than the immediate health risk. Uncertainty leads to anxiety which directly affects mental health and that type of illness is not easily recovered from

[arista]

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[Nicky91]

well supermarket my parents went to, majority had face masks apart from few people, few younger, and also couple elderly without a mask (i mean why do some elderly ignore the mask advice what could save their lives, kinda dumb :facepalm: )

[Nicky91]

https://www.spiegel.de/international/zeitgeist/germany-coronavirus-is-killing-nightlife-if-that-s-the-future-then-good-night-a-a036daea-c29b-49a4-9eca-8c7a595c72a6#ref=rss

Germany: coronavirus is killing nightlife ''if that's the future then good night''

[Kizzy]

Theres an outbreak in the home that my dads in atm, we were quite nervous the past few days as we had to wait on my dads results, he got them earlier this afternoon and thankfully it was negative though.

Really pleased to hear that Josy :)

[Kizzy]

One of my colleagues was off isolating as his mum was diagnosed, they were trying to treat her at home but she had a fall so is now in hospital :(

[Nicky91]

netherlands todays numbers

10.007 new cases

248 new hospitalisations (2,073 in total) 472 on the ICU now

47 new deaths

[bots]

Coronavirus infections are still rising across the UK, according to the Office for National Statistics (ONS).

It estimates cases have risen by a quarter to more than 35,200 a day in England.

[user104658]

'Don't put clocks back to help fight COVID pandemic misery', petition urges...





https://uk.yahoo.com/news/clocks-go-back-covid-pandemic-petition-125329850.html





...I would say that it’s far too late on the clock for this to be thought about applying if it ever would have been, which I doubt...Far too late, there are automated systems in pretty much every industry that will alter on Sunday morning regardless and would take much longer than a couple of days to reprogramme if changing the clocks was abolished.

Also, yes there's debate about doing away with daylight savings, but we're CURRENTLY in BST which is the "fake" time, if we were to abolish changing the clocks (which is often discussed), it would be BST that goes and we would be on GMT year round... Which is what we're switching to on Sunday...

I do get the argument for maintaining more daylight in the afternoon with everyone stuck at home - but it's not like it makes a huge difference. The UK has short days in winter and there's no way to avoid that... You don't get extra daylight by changing the clocks, you just get it at a different time. It's not like dawn is particularly early so we miss out. We get the daylight we get, more daylight in the afternoon just means less in the morning.

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[arista]

[Coronavirus: Sewage tests detect local
COVID-19 hotspots
Waste-water testing at more than 90 plants
in the UK is tracking COVID-19 among people with no symptoms.]
More than 90 wastewater treatment sites are now being tested across the UK.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-sewage-tests-detect-local-covid-19-hotspots-12111784

[Kizzy]

[Coronavirus: Sewage tests detect local
COVID-19 hotspots
Waste-water testing at more than 90 plants
in the UK is tracking COVID-19 among people with no symptoms.]
More than 90 wastewater treatment sites are now being tested across the UK.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-sewage-tests-detect-local-covid-19-hotspots-12111784

Really.... Covid can pass through your system and not be killed? That's worrying.

[arista]

Really.... Covid can pass through your system and not be killed? That's worrying.


Yes an Evil Virus

[arista]

Some good news:

[Coronavirus: Labour MP Yasmin Qureshi discharged from hospital after treatment for COVID-19

She praises "wonderful" NHS staff and says she was "completely overwhelmed by the kind messages I have received from everyone".]

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-mp-yasmin-qureshi-discharged-from-hospital-after-treatment-for-covid-19-12112059

[user104658]

Really.... Covid can pass through your system and not be killed? That's worrying.I don't think it's new information that raw sewage carries disease... There's a reason that disease was rife in cities before the invention of sanitation (there was poopoo and peepee all over the streets).

[Beso]

(there was poopoo and peepee all over the streets).



Send them back to france.